Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Le vendredi 25 octobre 2019 00:02:06 UTC+2, Rob Steinmetz a écrit : > OK, > > It's fixed. Thanks to everyone who pitched in. > > I still don't know what was actually wrong. I could never duplicate the > problem and none of the suggestions exposed the actual issue. > > I went back into my profile and cleared pretty much everything in > Private Data again except Cookies, Offline Website Data and Saved > Logins. I cleared Browsing History, Location Bar History, Download > History, Saved Form and Search History, Cache and Authenticated > Sessions. One of those cleared up whatever was messed up. > > If it ever happens again I'll try to methodically clear each one > separately to see if it can be isolated. > > Jonathan N. Little wrote: > > Rob Steinmetz wrote: > >> I've also removed a and reinstalled SeaMonkey.It seems something is > >> cacheing the login in information but I can't find it. > > > > This would be a user setting and removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey no > > matter how often you do it will not clear a user profile setting. > > > > As suggested create a pristine profile. Do nothing on profile but log > > into site with user settings and have remember me set. Open data manager > > and note ALL domains with settings now. That will be what your have to > > clear, "forget", on your original profile in order to clear old credentials > > Have such kind of problem yesterday. I have an outlook webmail account from my company? Message after account/passwd provided: "the custom error module does not recognize this error." and no way to go ahead. I try deleting cookies from microsoft: no difference. I delete all datas stored from microsoft: no difference. A new profile works well... Finally i find an enter stored with a name unrelated (well, normal person can not knows it is reated to this) to outlook or microsoft: seraching for the account name i find two entries and delete them: bingo now it works. What i guess: Oulook strts from some weeks asking "do you want to stay logged in" and i always answer "No" A mark is here to instrcut "do not ask me anymore" but checked or nor brings to same behavior: i have always this question. Tired to answer "No", i try "Yes" on wedneday; on thursday it was broken withnthe silly message "the custom error module does not recognize this error" I higly suspect this is related. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
OK, It's fixed. Thanks to everyone who pitched in. I still don't know what was actually wrong. I could never duplicate the problem and none of the suggestions exposed the actual issue. I went back into my profile and cleared pretty much everything in Private Data again except Cookies, Offline Website Data and Saved Logins. I cleared Browsing History, Location Bar History, Download History, Saved Form and Search History, Cache and Authenticated Sessions. One of those cleared up whatever was messed up. If it ever happens again I'll try to methodically clear each one separately to see if it can be isolated. Jonathan N. Little wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've also removed a and reinstalled SeaMonkey.It seems something is cacheing the login in information but I can't find it. This would be a user setting and removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey no matter how often you do it will not clear a user profile setting. As suggested create a pristine profile. Do nothing on profile but log into site with user settings and have remember me set. Open data manager and note ALL domains with settings now. That will be what your have to clear, "forget", on your original profile in order to clear old credentials ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I've also removed a and reinstalled SeaMonkey.It seems something is > cacheing the login in information but I can't find it. This would be a user setting and removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey no matter how often you do it will not clear a user profile setting. As suggested create a pristine profile. Do nothing on profile but log into site with user settings and have remember me set. Open data manager and note ALL domains with settings now. That will be what your have to clear, "forget", on your original profile in order to clear old credentials -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
OK I don't know if this is progress or not but is now appears that if I don't login through the home page but at one of the other alternate logins I can in fact login. I've also removed a and reinstalled SeaMonkey.It seems something is cacheing the login in information but I can't find it. Rob Steinmetz wrote: OK, I created a new blank profile and was able to login and logout repeatedly using different accounts. Using the "Remember Me" button the site populated the user name field and left the password blank. I could save the username and password and select any account from the list to login. On my profile every attempt to login fails for any account. Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-23, Rob Steinmetz wrote: OK I tend to keep a clean profile in Profile manager. So I went and loaded that one and it works as expected. Went back to my regular profiles and the problem recurs. It seems to definitely be something in my profile. I'd suggest creating a brand new profile (so that it is completely empty and you can delete it afterwards) and trying the "Remember me" option so that you can more easily see what is being set/stored by that option. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
OK, I created a new blank profile and was able to login and logout repeatedly using different accounts. Using the "Remember Me" button the site populated the user name field and left the password blank. I could save the username and password and select any account from the list to login. On my profile every attempt to login fails for any account. Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-23, Rob Steinmetz wrote: OK I tend to keep a clean profile in Profile manager. So I went and loaded that one and it works as expected. Went back to my regular profiles and the problem recurs. It seems to definitely be something in my profile. I'd suggest creating a brand new profile (so that it is completely empty and you can delete it afterwards) and trying the "Remember me" option so that you can more easily see what is being set/stored by that option. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
On 2019-10-23, Rob Steinmetz wrote: > OK > I tend to keep a clean profile in Profile manager. So I went and > loaded that one and it works as expected. > Went back to my regular profiles and the problem recurs. > It seems to definitely be something in my profile. I'd suggest creating a brand new profile (so that it is completely empty and you can delete it afterwards) and trying the "Remember me" option so that you can more easily see what is being set/stored by that option. -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
OK I tend to keep a clean profile in Profile manager. So I went and loaded that one and it works as expected. Went back to my regular profiles and the problem recurs. It seems to definitely be something in my profile. Daniel wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote on 23/10/2019 6:23 AM: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. (Cut and Paste for thread flow ) Just for completeness, Rob, have you tried a completely new Profile?? Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles. This would give you a new, clean, Profile without effecting your production profile?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Not for a while, just for the time you see cookies appearing on another domain. rob wrote on 23-10-19 01:18: It's possible there is a third domain involved, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one. I suppose I could delete all cookies and live with the inconvenience for a while. Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. [...] I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for which you still have cookies? The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through the login process. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
jb.alab...@gmail.com wrote on 23/10/2019 6:26 AM: I've asked about one problem, which it hasn't been answered, and I'm receiving lots of answers about toher topics. What's that...!? *Jordi Borràs Alabern* (Manresa, Barcelona, Catalunya/Catalonia) Jordi Borràs Alabern, you have sent your question using the mail list. I've never used that but, as I understand it, this means you get a copy of every post made to this support group. There are three ways you can ask your question 1. Post via the list (as you do) and get everything else posted to the list as well as replies to your post. 2. You can view the newsgroup via Google groups, in which case you can go to Google groups and just read those posts that you wish to read, or, 3. You can view the newsgroup in a News Account on the "Mail & News" screen of SeaMonkey where you can select those (Mozilla based) groups that you wish and read only those posts that you want to read. Reply to this post if you want any assistance with which ever option you choose! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote on 23/10/2019 6:23 AM: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. (Cut and Paste for thread flow ) Just for completeness, Rob, have you tried a completely new Profile?? Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles. This would give you a new, clean, Profile without effecting your production profile?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
rob wrote: The site is Southwest.com I can change the IP address and test that. Simply restarting the machine probably won't force a new IP as DHCP (which this machine uses) tries to assign the same IP address every time. I have changed the Gateway address recently. It is possible that logins are handled by a third domain, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one except deleting all cookies, which I might do. On my machine, which clears all cookies at every session end and whenever I clear private data as I just did, it's easy to see what site sets cookies. When I visit southwest.com, I get eight cookies from southwest.com and one from www.southwest.com. That's it. If I click "Enroll," that increases to 11 and four, respectively, but no new sites appear. I obviously haven't tested what happens after I log in, since I don't have an account. I don't think it's the MAC address because if I login using a different browser on the same machine it doesn't force that user. I haven't found a "forget me" button. At this point while I used SeaMonkey for most things I have Chrome, Firefox and Edge on the machine. I just use a different browser for Southwest.com. A valid workaround, I guess, but an inconvenient one. Good for the rest of us to know to avoid "Remember me" buttons. ;-\ -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
The site is Southwest.com I can change the IP address and test that. Simply restarting the machine probably won't force a new IP as DHCP (which this machine uses) tries to assign the same IP address every time. I have changed the Gateway address recently. It is possible that logins are handled by a third domain, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one except deleting all cookies, which I might do. I don't think it's the MAC address because if I login using a different browser on the same machine it doesn't force that user. I haven't found a "forget me" button. At this point while I used SeaMonkey for most things I have Chrome, Firefox and Edge on the machine. I just use a different browser for Southwest.com. Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Well, I hate to say this, but it's beginning to look like the site is remembering you on its own server, not in your browser. If so, it's probably recognizing you by your IP address. You could test that by trying to log in with a different browser. If that theory holds up... 1) Can you log in with the persistent username and change the setting to "forget me"? 2) Can you change your IP address (if you have a dynamic IP, restarting the computer would probably do the trick) so it thinks you're a random stranger? On the other hand, if it's recognizing you by your MAC address, you can't change that, so you'll have to log in with a different device to implement option 1). HTHAL -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
It's possible there is a third domain involved, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one. I suppose I could delete all cookies and live with the inconvenience for a while. Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. [...] I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for which you still have cookies? The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through the login process. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote: >>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that > domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. [...] > I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and > Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab > and deleted all instances of that user name. > > I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. > > About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and > reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also > deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for which you still have cookies? The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through the login process. -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Well, I hate to say this, but it's beginning to look like the site is remembering you on its own server, not in your browser. If so, it's probably recognizing you by your IP address. You could test that by trying to log in with a different browser. If that theory holds up... 1) Can you log in with the persistent username and change the setting to "forget me"? 2) Can you change your IP address (if you have a dynamic IP, restarting the computer would probably do the trick) so it thinks you're a random stranger? On the other hand, if it's recognizing you by your MAC address, you can't change that, so you'll have to log in with a different device to implement option 1). HTHAL -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
I've asked about one problem, which it hasn't been answered, and I'm receiving lots of answers about toher topics. What's that...!? *Jordi Borràs Alabern* (Manresa, Barcelona, Catalunya/Catalonia) Missatge de Rob Steinmetz del dia dt., 22 d’oct. 2019 a les 21:25: > I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and > Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and > deleted all instances of that user name. > > I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. > > About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and > reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also > deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. > > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > > Richard Alan wrote: > > > >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > >> > >>> Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that > domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... > >>> > >>> Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. > >> > >> It appears he's already done that. > > > > Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and > > overlooked the Cookies tab. > > > > FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: > > > > > > ___ > support-seamonkey mailing list > support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey > ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Rob Steinmetz wrote: >> I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that >> domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... > > Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote: Seamonkey 2.49.5 I have a problem with a website that insists on using one users login. I originally clicked on the "Remember Me" box, now I can't get SeaMonkey forget that user and I can't login to that site with any other user. It keeps trying to use the one user and even when I put in the correct password it fails. I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. There does not appear to be any form data saved. The problem persists after restarting the computer. This appears to be related to this profile and SeaMonkey, other users and other Browsers can access the site. Thanks for your help. Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
