Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
I'm only complaining about SM email client at this time, the browser also spins on certain sites... Thanks Rodney On 8/16/2015 20:19:32 Ant wrote: I notice this too, but only if I go crazy like too many tabs, memory usage goes up, etc. Restarting my SM temporarily fixes it. On 8/15/2015 1:01 PM, Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Since I am experiencing severe issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Win7 64bit O/S Thanks Rodney --snip-- First thing to try is testing with a fresh profile in safe mode (add-ons and plug-ins disabled). Already done, no change... Right now, I'm back at 2.24 after a delete of 32 install of 24, no change... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
I notice this too, but only if I go crazy like too many tabs, memory usage goes up, etc. Restarting my SM temporarily fixes it. On 8/15/2015 1:01 PM, Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Since I am experiencing severe issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Win7 64bit O/S Thanks Rodney --snip-- First thing to try is testing with a fresh profile in safe mode (add-ons and plug-ins disabled). Already done, no change... Right now, I'm back at 2.24 after a delete of 32 install of 24, no change... Thanks -- Individually, ants are stupid. Together, they're brilliant. --unknown Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
All: Since I am experiencing severe issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Win7 64bit O/S Thanks Rodney --snip-- First thing to try is testing with a fresh profile in safe mode (add-ons and plug-ins disabled). Already done, no change... Right now, I'm back at 2.24 after a delete of 32 install of 24, no change... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Since I am experiencing sever issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Does Thunderbird suffer from the same CPU consumption issues as SeaMonley ? Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Does the next version of SM address the CPU spins that I am experiencing ? Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Miles: Didn't seem to be an issue till someone introduced Akamai Netsession to the mix. I deinstalled it and things went downhill from there and I'm just reading mail no browser involved. But that may explain one of the errors that I'm getting Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Also having browser issues just reading web pages (most will hang) Is there any fix for this wait issue, I've reduced the Network connection timeout to 20 secs. Thanks Rodney Miles Fidelman wrote: Tell me about it. I think the problem has to do with handling multiple HTTP calls in parallel. There's this proliferation of pages that contain tons of JavaScript, make tons of calls to load libraries, cookies, trackers, etc. - a lot of which seem to come from overloaded servers. And while it's waiting, SeaMonkey seems to freeze ALL it's tabs and windows. Miles Fidelman Rodney Sampson wrote: Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing thehttp://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File:chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
On 07/08/2015 16:28, Rodney Sampson wrote: Since I am experiencing sever issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Thanks Rodney First thing to try is testing with a fresh profile in safe mode (add-ons and plug-ins disabled). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Rodney Sampson wrote: Since I am experiencing sever issues with the CPU utilization, I might be willing to test the newest version to see if it cures my issues... Just a thought... Thanks Rodney I haven't followed all the details of your ongoing travails, since the time I added suggestions several weeks ago. If Safe Mode and/or a new profile don't resolve the problem, the problems that you are having may related to Seamonkey, only in that it's Seamonkey that's showing the symptoms. I know I've seen you ask if Firefox or Thunderbird have the same problems. As far as I'm aware, they don't, and I run both, but then I don't have problems with Seamonkey, either. I'm inclined to believe that your problems may be related to something hardware, and to me, something with your video card might be the first guess. NIC could be a possibility, as could be chipset or something else on the motherboard. If the computer is a laptop, if it's more than 3 years old, if it spends a lot of time in the carry case, and if it's a low-end consumer-grade computer, those are all things that can contribute to hardware-related problems. In the long run, I think if you run your current profile on a different computer, the problems probably go away. In the meantime, even if you're only seeing symptoms in Seamonkey now, it may only be a matter of time before you start seeing stability problems in other applications, as well. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
All: Does Thunderbird suffer from the same CPU consumption issues as SeaMonley ? Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Does the next version of SM address the CPU spins that I am experiencing ? Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Miles: Didn't seem to be an issue till someone introduced Akamai Netsession to the mix. I deinstalled it and things went downhill from there and I'm just reading mail no browser involved. But that may explain one of the errors that I'm getting Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Also having browser issues just reading web pages (most will hang) Is there any fix for this wait issue, I've reduced the Network connection timeout to 20 secs. Thanks Rodney Miles Fidelman wrote: Tell me about it. I think the problem has to do with handling multiple HTTP calls in parallel. There's this proliferation of pages that contain tons of JavaScript, make tons of calls to load libraries, cookies, trackers, etc. - a lot of which seem to come from overloaded servers. And while it's waiting, SeaMonkey seems to freeze ALL it's tabs and windows. Miles Fidelman Rodney Sampson wrote: Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing thehttp://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File:chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
All: Does the next version of SM address the CPU spins that I am experiencing ? Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Miles: Didn't seem to be an issue till someone introduced Akamai Netsession to the mix. I deinstalled it and things went downhill from there and I'm just reading mail no browser involved. But that may explain one of the errors that I'm getting Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Also having browser issues just reading web pages (most will hang) Is there any fix for this wait issue, I've reduced the Network connection timeout to 20 secs. Thanks Rodney Miles Fidelman wrote: Tell me about it. I think the problem has to do with handling multiple HTTP calls in parallel. There's this proliferation of pages that contain tons of JavaScript, make tons of calls to load libraries, cookies, trackers, etc. - a lot of which seem to come from overloaded servers. And while it's waiting, SeaMonkey seems to freeze ALL it's tabs and windows. Miles Fidelman Rodney Sampson wrote: Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing thehttp://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File:chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
RE: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Miles: Didn't seem to be an issue till someone introduced Akamai Netsession to the mix. I deinstalled it and things went downhill from there and I'm just reading mail no browser involved. But that may explain one of the errors that I'm getting Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Also having browser issues just reading web pages (most will hang) Is there any fix for this wait issue, I've reduced the Network connection timeout to 20 secs. Thanks Rodney Miles Fidelman wrote: Tell me about it. I think the problem has to do with handling multiple HTTP calls in parallel. There's this proliferation of pages that contain tons of JavaScript, make tons of calls to load libraries, cookies, trackers, etc. - a lot of which seem to come from overloaded servers. And while it's waiting, SeaMonkey seems to freeze ALL it's tabs and windows. Miles Fidelman Rodney Sampson wrote: Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing thehttp://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampsonrsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File:chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing the http://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Tell me about it. I think the problem has to do with handling multiple HTTP calls in parallel. There's this proliferation of pages that contain tons of JavaScript, make tons of calls to load libraries, cookies, trackers, etc. - a lot of which seem to come from overloaded servers. And while it's waiting, SeaMonkey seems to freeze ALL it's tabs and windows. Miles Fidelman Rodney Sampson wrote: Still waiting for ideas... Having to kill restart SM a dozen times a day is getting quite old... I'm also considering abandoning SM for Thunderbird, any got-ya's lurking ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing the http://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Have sent 3 crash reports this morning just reading email Any clues ? Did MS patch something that SM is allergic to ? Thanks Rodney Sampson wrote: Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing the http://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Deinstalled SM Reinstalled, no change Repeating... Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing the http://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
Lee wrote: On 7/5/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/4/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Lee: I've been seeing this error regardless of whether or not I have a proxy used. Clues ? The PAC file is Proxy Auto Config file, so SeaMonkey shouldn't be trying to load a PAC file if it's set to directly connect to the Internet. So try this Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies and select Direct connection to the Internet This is what I've been using, yet the proxy message is still present... Maybe SeaMonkey looks for the PAC file even if it isn't going to use it??? Try enabling automatic proxy config, removing the http://sourceforge ... URL info and setting it back to direct connection. Lee Exit SM, start it again, check that Direct connection to the Internet is still set (if no we need to figure out how it's being cleared) and then see if the error loading PAC file still shows up in the error console Regards, Lee Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee Cool 1 down... Failed to load native module at path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\components\xpcomsample.dll': (80520012) unknown; can't get error from NSPR Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:26 PM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/5/2015 3:39:50 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Here's the next 3 errors... Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU Spin
On 6/30/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Proxies If you're using [or want to use] Privoxy you should have Manual proxy configuration checked 127.0.0.1 as the Proxy and 8118 as the port. Privoxy has to be running or you won't be able to get to the Internet otherwise Direct connection to the Internet should be checked. I'm guessing you have Automatic proxy configuration URL checked something like http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ in the URL field Regards, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Right-click on mail folder Properties Repair Folder Is there a way to move the repair function out to the right click menu ? How about a function where I could run from command line ? ?? global cleanup function ?? Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't the data is still there and must be parsed even thought deleted. My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail folders and do not have your issue...just saying. any thoughts on clearing error messages ? Timestamp: 7/3/2015 9:06:05 AMError: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/3/2015 9:06:18 AMError: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 get tons of these Browser mail will occasionally walk off the face of the earth , no errors, no dumps, no nothing, just aborts. -- Take care, Jonathan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Daniel wrote: On 3/07/2015 12:40 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/Profiles\[SALT].default ^^^ [1] You can sort out your profile location very easily, *without* reinstalling SeaMonkey. All you have to do is edit the profile location config file: profiles.ini. The location of the profiles.ini is: Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini ^^^ [2] Why have two profiles?? Your Linux can see your Windows, so if you point *both* your Linux SM and your Windows SM to the same Windows profile, you have all your data available to you, doesn't matter what OS you are in at the time!! Well firstly with respect to my situation, Window and Linux are not installed on the same machine. I only have Windows on this desktop, Linux is on my laptop and other systems. What I was showing was [1] where the default locations for SeaMonkey profiles are for both OSes. If you have a dual boot situation then yes the Linux system can reference the Windows profile. MS is not so accommodating for non-MS-filesystems ;-) so the Linux install would reference the Windows profile and not the reverse. If you were to share a profile in a dual boot situation the profiles.ini will still have to be located as indicated in [2] for each respective OS. For the Linux profiles.ini you will have to use the absolute path to the profile folder on the mounted Windows partition, e.g., path=/mnt/windows_partition/some/path/to/profile/folder Mostly I was showing you that there is no need to reinstall SeaMonkey to fix your pathing problem. You can move your profile anywhere you wish by editing the respective profile.ini. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
On 3/07/2015 12:40 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 2/07/2015 12:33 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: snip Okay, compaction only works on the Mail folders of course. My *Mail* folders are a total of 4.15 GB for 3 accounts, compacted. My whole profile folder (which contains the Mail folders) is only 4.65 GB, i.e. only 500MB of non-mail data. So the question is why do you have 3+GB of stuff in your profile excluding your mail data? That is if I understand you correctly. I can safely say that is not typical. Jonathan, when you (or I) create a new Profile, it is made at one level below where you (or I) tell SM where to make it. *And I almost always get caught out by that* so my profile is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\mail.albury.net.au, and *yes* I did mean to type Profile twice, and I think I might have another old profile further down the chain. Similarly, my Local Folders is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\Local Folders. One day, I'll do a complete re-install of SeaMonkey (Both Win32 and Linux) and get my profile sorted out once and for all!! One Day ... ;-P Okay, I have installed SeaMonkey on Windows and Linux and moved profiles back and forth from both and crosswise, i.e., from Windows to Linux. Default locations for profiles is in a folder named with a random salt, but you can name it anything you want. Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/Profiles\[SALT].default You can sort out your profile location very easily, *without* reinstalling SeaMonkey. All you have to do is edit the profile location config file: profiles.ini. The location of the profiles.ini is: Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini Why have two profiles?? Your Linux can see your Windows, so if you point *both* your Linux SM and your Windows SM to the same Windows profile, you have all your data available to you, doesn't matter what OS you are in at the time!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 2/07/2015 12:33 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 1/07/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: snip Sounds like you have not compacted your account folders. As been explained SeaMonkey/Thunderbird stores mail in a version mbox format. As explained *by ME* elsewhere. Sorry confusing you and OP, since OP tends to create new threads instead of replying to the original thread. All messages in a folder are just a single contiguous text file.A flag in the header of each message is set to delete the message, but the message data is still there until you compact the folder and the mbox file is parsed and regenerated to remove the messages marked as deleted. Gee, Jonathan, if the size of my account folders indicates to you that I need to Compact *MY* folders, I wonder what size the equivalent folders are on your HD are!! Okay, compaction only works on the Mail folders of course. My *Mail* folders are a total of 4.15 GB for 3 accounts, compacted. My whole profile folder (which contains the Mail folders) is only 4.65 GB, i.e. only 500MB of non-mail data. So the question is why do you have 3+GB of stuff in your profile excluding your mail data? That is if I understand you correctly. I can safely say that is not typical. Jonathan, when you (or I) create a new Profile, it is made at one level below where you (or I) tell SM where to make it. *And I almost always get caught out by that* so my profile is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\mail.albury.net.au, and *yes* I did mean to type Profile twice, and I think I might have another old profile further down the chain. Similarly, my Local Folders is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\Local Folders. One day, I'll do a complete re-install of SeaMonkey (Both Win32 and Linux) and get my profile sorted out once and for all!! One Day ... ;-P And I do have eighteen Extensions and eleven plug-ins installed, and, because of the stuff-ups I've mentioned above, some of these could be installed (and not operating) at two or even three levels!! :-( So there are my problems!! Now, Jonathan, why is all your Mail accounts sitting at 4.15GB?? Is this just your This Years Mail, or does it include past years mail (that you don't touch from month to month?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Daniel wrote: On 2/07/2015 12:33 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: snip Okay, compaction only works on the Mail folders of course. My *Mail* folders are a total of 4.15 GB for 3 accounts, compacted. My whole profile folder (which contains the Mail folders) is only 4.65 GB, i.e. only 500MB of non-mail data. So the question is why do you have 3+GB of stuff in your profile excluding your mail data? That is if I understand you correctly. I can safely say that is not typical. Jonathan, when you (or I) create a new Profile, it is made at one level below where you (or I) tell SM where to make it. *And I almost always get caught out by that* so my profile is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\mail.albury.net.au, and *yes* I did mean to type Profile twice, and I think I might have another old profile further down the chain. Similarly, my Local Folders is contained at H:\Internet _Programs\Profile\Profile\Mail\Local Folders. One day, I'll do a complete re-install of SeaMonkey (Both Win32 and Linux) and get my profile sorted out once and for all!! One Day ... ;-P Okay, I have installed SeaMonkey on Windows and Linux and moved profiles back and forth from both and crosswise, i.e., from Windows to Linux. Default locations for profiles is in a folder named with a random salt, but you can name it anything you want. Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[SALT].default Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/Profiles\[SALT].default You can sort out your profile location very easily, *without* reinstalling SeaMonkey. All you have to do is edit the profile location config file: profiles.ini. The location of the profiles.ini is: Windows: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini Linux: ~/mozilla/seamonkey/profiles.ini So for example if you would like to move your Windows profile to: H:\Internet_Programs\MyProgfile where your mail path would be: H:\Internet_Programs\MyProgfile\Mail\mail.albury.net.au then edit in notepad: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\profiles.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] ; Change profile name if you wish Name=default ; Default profile location is relative to this file ; but since you have it under another path use its ; full path and set this value to false IsRelative=0 ; Now use FULL path to profile Path=H:\Internet_Programs\MyProgfile Save file and start SeaMonkey and you profile will be exactly where you want it. And I do have eighteen Extensions and eleven plug-ins installed, and, because of the stuff-ups I've mentioned above, some of these could be installed (and not operating) at two or even three levels!! :-( Yeah but 3 GB worth? Don't think so. You profile folder whatever\foo excluding your mail data in whatever\foo\Mail\... is just text files, some sqlite dbs, some json files, and some zipped jars,... I cannot imagine what would take up so much space unless you have some erroneous cruft in there. So there are my problems!! Now, Jonathan, why is all your Mail accounts sitting at 4.15GB?? Is this just your This Years Mail, or does it include past years mail (that you don't touch from month to month?? Nope, I said archived 16 years. My wife and I are artists and after I dump spam and adverts I keep everything else. The nature of my business my emails often have media attachments as we and clients send images back and forth. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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All: More errors to eliminate: Timestamp: 7/1/2015 7:58:59 AM Error: DEPRECATION WARNING: nsIFormHistory2 is deprecated and will be removed in a future version You may find more details about this deprecation at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879118 resource://gre/components/nsFormHistory.js 20 FormHistory resource://gre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm 292 XPCOMUtils__getFactory/factory.createInstance resource:///modules/Sanitizer.jsm 273 Sanitizer.items.formdata.canClear resource:///modules/Sanitizer.jsm 57 Sanitizer.doPendingSanitize resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js 341 SuiteGlue.prototype._onProfileStartup resource://gre/components/nsSuiteGlue.js 153 SuiteGlue.prototype.observe null 0 null Source File: resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm Line: 79 Timestamp: 7/1/2015 7:58:59 AM Error: uncaught exception: 2147942487 Timestamp: 7/1/2015 7:59:22 AM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 7/1/2015 8:02:00 AM Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection. Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js Line: 198 These are all before doing anything within SM. I check for new messages after startup. Thanks Rodney ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
On 1/07/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 30/06/2015 3:27 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, etc, in folders under the Local Folders, so my main Mail account only has this years stuff! Not sure that would make much of a difference, stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory. Anyway I used to do it manually with a custom folder Archive/YEAR in the profile before the archive feature was added. Afterwards all I had to do was rename Archive to Archives. stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory Jonathan, whilst my complete Profile comes in at 4.09GB (surprised me it was that big!!), my actual mail account is only 21.7MB, and my Local Folders (which contains my 19 years of archived mail) is 573MB. Sounds like you have not compacted your account folders. As been explained SeaMonkey/Thunderbird stores mail in a version mbox format. As explained *by ME* elsewhere. All messages in a folder are just a single contiguous text file.A flag in the header of each message is set to delete the message, but the message data is still there until you compact the folder and the mbox file is parsed and regenerated to remove the messages marked as deleted. Gee, Jonathan, if the size of my account folders indicates to you that I need to Compact *MY* folders, I wonder what size the equivalent folders are on your HD are!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Daniel wrote: On 1/07/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: snip Sounds like you have not compacted your account folders. As been explained SeaMonkey/Thunderbird stores mail in a version mbox format. As explained *by ME* elsewhere. Sorry confusing you and OP, since OP tends to create new threads instead of replying to the original thread. All messages in a folder are just a single contiguous text file.A flag in the header of each message is set to delete the message, but the message data is still there until you compact the folder and the mbox file is parsed and regenerated to remove the messages marked as deleted. Gee, Jonathan, if the size of my account folders indicates to you that I need to Compact *MY* folders, I wonder what size the equivalent folders are on your HD are!! Okay, compaction only works on the Mail folders of course. My *Mail* folders are a total of 4.15 GB for 3 accounts, compacted. My whole profile folder (which contains the Mail folders) is only 4.65 GB, i.e. only 500MB of non-mail data. So the question is why do you have 3+GB of stuff in your profile excluding your mail data? That is if I understand you correctly. I can safely say that is not typical. But back to the OP, what I said still holds. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 30/06/2015 3:27 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, etc, in folders under the Local Folders, so my main Mail account only has this years stuff! Not sure that would make much of a difference, stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory. Anyway I used to do it manually with a custom folder Archive/YEAR in the profile before the archive feature was added. Afterwards all I had to do was rename Archive to Archives. stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory Jonathan, whilst my complete Profile comes in at 4.09GB (surprised me it was that big!!), my actual mail account is only 21.7MB, and my Local Folders (which contains my 19 years of archived mail) is 573MB. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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All: Starting with the error console, can anyone tell me what this error means ? PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Figured I'd start eliminating 1 error at a time... Thanks Rodney ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Daniel wrote: On 30/06/2015 3:27 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, etc, in folders under the Local Folders, so my main Mail account only has this years stuff! Not sure that would make much of a difference, stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory. Anyway I used to do it manually with a custom folder Archive/YEAR in the profile before the archive feature was added. Afterwards all I had to do was rename Archive to Archives. stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory Jonathan, whilst my complete Profile comes in at 4.09GB (surprised me it was that big!!), my actual mail account is only 21.7MB, and my Local Folders (which contains my 19 years of archived mail) is 573MB. Sounds like you have not compacted your account folders. As been explained SeaMonkey/Thunderbird stores mail in a version mbox format. All messages in a folder are just a single contiguous text file. A flag in the header of each message is set to delete the message, but the message data is still there until you compact the folder and the mbox file is parsed and regenerated to remove the messages marked as deleted. Now sometimes the index files FOLDERNAME.msf get corrupted and hey can be fixed by running the Repair Folder, or deleting .msf files while SeaMonkey is closed and they will be recreated when SeaMonkey starts. The only other thing I can think of and I have encountered is a filesystem error involving one of the mbox files. I have recovered accounts from systems with hard drive failures with perl scripts I wrote to extract .eml files from mbox, remove damaged messages and then rebuild mbox file. There are some mbox utilities out there. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Daniel wrote: On 28/06/2015 12:36 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Rodney Sampson wrote: What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Right-click on mail folder Properties Repair Folder Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't the data is still there and must be parsed even thought deleted. My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail folders and do not have your issue...just saying. Jonathan, do you have all that 4GB of data in just your Inbox and Sent folders, or have you moved data into other folders with-in your profile and then File =Empty Trash and File-Compact Folders?? This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, etc, in folders under the Local Folders, so my main Mail account only has this years stuff! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Daniel wrote: On 29/06/2015 12:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. That may be the difference!!. I archive all my (19 years) e-mails, etc, in folders under the Local Folders, so my main Mail account only has this years stuff! Not sure that would make much of a difference, stored the same way just a different file name in your Mail directory. Anyway I used to do it manually with a custom folder Archive/YEAR in the profile before the archive feature was added. Afterwards all I had to do was rename Archive to Archives. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
On 28/06/2015 12:36 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Rodney Sampson wrote: What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Right-click on mail folder Properties Repair Folder Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't the data is still there and must be parsed even thought deleted. My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail folders and do not have your issue...just saying. Jonathan, do you have all that 4GB of data in just your Inbox and Sent folders, or have you moved data into other folders with-in your profile and then File =Empty Trash and File-Compact Folders?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Daniel wrote: On 28/06/2015 12:36 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Rodney Sampson wrote: What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Right-click on mail folder Properties Repair Folder Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't the data is still there and must be parsed even thought deleted. My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail folders and do not have your issue...just saying. Jonathan, do you have all that 4GB of data in just your Inbox and Sent folders, or have you moved data into other folders with-in your profile and then File =Empty Trash and File-Compact Folders?? This is with proper emptying trash and junk and compacting. I just have archived my messages for the past 16 years. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
On 27/06/2015 9:35 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rodney Sampson wrote: ... Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Can we assume that you've been compacting folders periodically or after large-scale deletions? Remember, delete, as it does elsewhere in the computing world, means hide from the user. So a folder that has undergone multiple deletions will have a lot of hidden content that the program must purposely disregard, and the index file will be needlessly complex. Rodney, when you move messages from the Inbox or Sent folders into other folder or sub-folders, they are not necessarily moved to the other folder, but, rather, copied into the new location. To actually get rid of them from the original location try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
... Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Can we assume that you've been compacting folders periodically or after large-scale deletions? Remember, delete, as it does elsewhere in the computing world, means hide from the user. So a folder that has undergone multiple deletions will have a lot of hidden content that the program must purposely disregard, and the index file will be needlessly complex. Rodney, when you move messages from the Inbox or Sent folders into other folder or sub-folders, they are not necessarily moved to the other folder, but, rather, copied into the new location. To actually get rid of them from the original location try File-Empty Trash and then File-Compact Folders. -- Daniel What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Rodney Sampson wrote: What's the best way to rebuild the indexes ? Right-click on mail folder Properties Repair Folder Would that explain CPU Spin when reading a message ? Did see where you said that you have compacted folders, if you haven't the data is still there and must be parsed even thought deleted. My profile has a long legacy from NN 4.x and I have ~4GB data in my mail folders and do not have your issue...just saying. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
All: Wondering if what I store within SM has anything to do with issues. Have I hit a limit ? There are 3 accounts totaling 4gb of storage... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Changing subject from unresponsive to CPU Spin From bringing up the error console, it seems that this statement is the last action before SM goes into CPU spin. Timestamp: 6/25/2015 8:40:40 AM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Any idea what this is doing and how to fix it ? I'm on SM 2.33.1 on a Win 7 x64 system. Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Can I re-install SM 2.33.1 over current install without de-install, or do I need to de-install / re-install ? And do you think it might help given the errors below ? Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Here's a few of the errors from the error console... PAC Execution Error: expected expression, got '' [!doctype html ] PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:12 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:24 PM Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection. Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js Line: 198 Don't know if any of these could send SM into cpu loop... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Installed ran full scan with DiskCheckup (probably better alternative to scandisk) From an earlier post, I saw that Error Console is available, is there a way to trap all the traffic to the console ? Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/18/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Any ideas here ? Might be disk drive problems. So the first thing to do is backup all your hard drives. Trying to determine what events send SM into a spin. Whatever it is, it seems to be happening just to you so I'd be looking at the machine. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Is one of the three brand new? Probably doesn't matter since There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there but it's nice not starting off with bad assumptions. So... you have cleared your cache, emptied the trash, compressed mail folders ... I'm drawing a blank for what other temporary files SM leaves behind. So, first, is it SeaMonkey or something else like your A/V hanging? Run process explorer https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx and when SM hangs see what's using all the CPU You could also try process monitor https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx and maybe find something. It's a lot like trying to drink from a firehose but it seems like it shows pretty much everything I've booted, cleaned and defragged Disk checkup might show something going bad http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm Have you checked for bad sectors on the disk? It can take hours, so before going to bed open windows explorer, right click on the drive, left click on properties, select the Tools tab, in the Error Checking pane click on check now, select both Automatically fix file system errors Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors and you probably have to reboot. If you have multiple hard drives make sure to check them all Regards, Lee I have several windows dump files from various percentages of CPU load. There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there the UI is dead and may only display the account level, sometimes the folders show up, but no navigation is possible. Still trying to locate debug logging info and how to start it... Apparently the command line flag is for a developer to step thru the code it only starts a DOS window, Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Where might the config.txt be buried on a Windows 7 machine ? Proxy helped a little.. Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/15/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: O/S: Win 7 Pro w/ 8gb Ram. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Straight text works fine, there's something in the mails with embedded images. I've booted, cleaned and defragged , after it freezes, I can restart and sometimes view the mail it got stuck on. It would be helpful if there was a log of loading (websites) so I could see if there's something in common. If SeaMonkey is locking up an addon to show that URLs are referenced probably won't work, so use an external proxy. I like Privoxy: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ logging is disabled by default, so all the following to config.txt logdir c:\temp logfile privoxy.log debug 1 # Log the destination for each request Privoxy let through. See also debug 1024. debug 1024 # Log the destination for requests Privoxy didn't let through, and the reason why.
Re: Seamonkey CPU spin
Rodney Sampson wrote: ... Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Can we assume that you've been compacting folders periodically or after large-scale deletions? Remember, delete, as it does elsewhere in the computing world, means hide from the user. So a folder that has undergone multiple deletions will have a lot of hidden content that the program must purposely disregard, and the index file will be needlessly complex. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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I've trimmed out the conversation history and will attempt to comply with list wishes... Synopsis: All of my SM troubles started when from cold boot, I was requested a firewall exception from Akamai Netsession, deinstalled. From that point on, I've been starting SM in safe mode with the error console running. Today, I was navigating to the new O'Rilley email (in preview mode) and it started taking 16% CPU. I have to abort SM with Process Explorer , nothing else is taking 1% except System Idle Time. I have changed the following in SM, hardare acceleration, and connection timeout from 100 to 50. Mail Browser have similar issues. Last things I've seen in the error console is the following: Timestamp: 6/26/2015 4:22:54 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 6/26/2015 4:47:10 PM Error: document.getElementById(...).SelectLocale is not a function Source File: chrome://global/content/bindings/preferences.xml line 423 Function Line: 1 Looks like an array indexing issue... Starting SM in Safe Mode add-ons are disabled, cache , cookies offline are cleared before start. Questions: Is there any way to log exactly what SM is doing ? What websites it's downloading from , etc ? On the average, I have to kill/restart 20 times per day. Getting old fast... I have moved subfolders from the inbox sent, trash junk are emptied multiple times daily. No pre-defined folders have 300 messages. Wish there was a rule or add-on that would save the attachment automatically to a folder. More suggestions please ? Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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All: Changing subject from unresponsive to CPU Spin From bringing up the error console, it seems that this statement is the last action before SM goes into CPU spin. Timestamp: 6/25/2015 8:40:40 AM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Any idea what this is doing and how to fix it ? I'm on SM 2.33.1 on a Win 7 x64 system. Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: All: Can I re-install SM 2.33.1 over current install without de-install, or do I need to de-install / re-install ? And do you think it might help given the errors below ? Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Here's a few of the errors from the error console... PAC Execution Error: expected expression, got '' [!doctype html ] PAC file failed to install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:12 PM Error: TypeError: browsers[i] is undefined Source File: chrome://navigator/content/tabbrowser.xml Line: 331 Timestamp: 6/21/2015 6:14:24 PM Warning: window.controllers is deprecated. Do not use it for UA detection. Source File: chrome://editor/content/ComposerCommands.js Line: 198 Don't know if any of these could send SM into cpu loop... Thanks Rodney Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Installed ran full scan with DiskCheckup (probably better alternative to scandisk) From an earlier post, I saw that Error Console is available, is there a way to trap all the traffic to the console ? Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/18/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: Any ideas here ? Might be disk drive problems. So the first thing to do is backup all your hard drives. Trying to determine what events send SM into a spin. Whatever it is, it seems to be happening just to you so I'd be looking at the machine. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Is one of the three brand new? Probably doesn't matter since There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there but it's nice not starting off with bad assumptions. So... you have cleared your cache, emptied the trash, compressed mail folders ... I'm drawing a blank for what other temporary files SM leaves behind. So, first, is it SeaMonkey or something else like your A/V hanging? Run process explorer https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx and when SM hangs see what's using all the CPU You could also try process monitor https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx and maybe find something. It's a lot like trying to drink from a firehose but it seems like it shows pretty much everything I've booted, cleaned and defragged Disk checkup might show something going bad http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm Have you checked for bad sectors on the disk? It can take hours, so before going to bed open windows explorer, right click on the drive, left click on properties, select the Tools tab, in the Error Checking pane click on check now, select both Automatically fix file system errors Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors and you probably have to reboot. If you have multiple hard drives make sure to check them all Regards, Lee I have several windows dump files from various percentages of CPU load. There are also times when I start in safe mode, it just sits there the UI is dead and may only display the account level, sometimes the folders show up, but no navigation is possible. Still trying to locate debug logging info and how to start it... Apparently the command line flag is for a developer to step thru the code it only starts a DOS window, Thanks Rodney Sampson Rodney Sampson wrote: Lee: Where might the config.txt be buried on a Windows 7 machine ? Proxy helped a little.. Thanks Rodney Lee wrote: On 6/15/15, Rodney Sampson rsamp...@kc.rr.com wrote: O/S: Win 7 Pro w/ 8gb Ram. I have 3 profiles and it happens on all 3 Straight text works fine, there's something in the mails with embedded images. I've booted, cleaned and defragged , after it freezes, I can restart and sometimes view the mail it got stuck on. It would be helpful if there was a log of loading (websites) so I could see if there's something in common. If SeaMonkey is locking up an addon to show that URLs are referenced probably won't work, so use an external proxy. I like Privoxy: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa/files/Win32/3.0.23%20%28stable%29/ logging is disabled by default, so all the following to config.txt logdir c:\temp logfile privoxy.log debug 1 # Log the destination for each request Privoxy let through. See also debug 1024. debug 1024 # Log the destination for requests Privoxy didn't let through, and the reason why. debug 4096 # Startup banner and warnings debug 8192 # Non-fatal errors and you can try enabling some/all of the following # == verbose: normally OFF # debug8 # show header parsing -
