RE: Word 2013 tutorial

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Neville,

Just a brief reply to your message about navigation of the ribbon.
Personally, very often, I can't even begin a navigation of the ribbon using
those one, two, three keystroke strings which Marc or others have
recommended.
So, what I do is use Alt, which calls up the ribbon, use arrow left and
right to pick the proper tab, and use the tabkey repeatedly to navigate
precisely  to the command I need, and then spacebar to activate the control
I need and arrow keys and Enter as necessary.
I have noticed that this approach can give different verbosity than you get
by all this single-letter shortcutting, and, as I say, the navigation
shortcutting doesn't always work anyway.
I just thought I'd mention this, my friend.
Oh, and by the way, I'm still using Office 2010.

Good luck,

Rod

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Subject: Word 2013 tutorial

Hi,
I am currently working my way through Marc Solomon's tutorial on 
Word2013 and having a problem.  Hopefully someone can help with a 
solution.

When Marc is moving through the ribbon menu items, his syn is giving 
lots more information and often saying,  "Tell me more" which indicates 
a back stage to the option.

I am not getting all of this info and have had a look through the 
"Verbosity" settings but can't locate any checkboxes which, if checked, 
would give me this extra info.

  Could someone please inform me which boxes to check or uncheck so the 
tutorials can be followed more closely?


Thanks
Neville.

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Re: Anti-virus software

[manny via Talk]

Hi Nick,
I use Microsoft Security Essential, which works well with WE9.1.

Some programs are not setup to maximize the window.
Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my 
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computer specifications: Window Eyes 8.4, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home 
premium, with dual boot to windows 8.1, with start8 from: 
www.stardock.com with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and 
software updated software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: 
Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,

On 5/17/2015 5:14 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
> This question was posed earlier, but with the frenzy of activity,  it 
may have been overlooked.  What are some recommendations for quality 
anti-virus software which also works well with Window-eyes?  And 
unrelated, I’m trying to maximize, and it is saying maximize disabled.  
Why does it say things like that?

>
> Nick
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Re: Anti-virus software

[David Goldfield via Talk]

Hi, Nick.
Regarding the maximizing issue you're having, it is likely that the 
window you're trying to maximize is already maximized, which is why it's 
being reported as being disabled. I can see where that would get 
confusing ...


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This question was posed earlier, but with the frenzy of activity,  it may have 
been overlooked.  What are some recommendations for quality anti-virus software 
which also works well with Window-eyes?  And unrelated, I’m trying to maximize, 
and it is saying maximize disabled.  Why does it say things like that?

Nick
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Anti-virus software

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

This question was posed earlier, but with the frenzy of activity,  it may have 
been overlooked.  What are some recommendations for quality anti-virus software 
which also works well with Window-eyes?  And unrelated, I’m trying to maximize, 
and it is saying maximize disabled.  Why does it say things like that?

Nick
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RE: Go figure!

[Dale Alton via Talk]

I think you nailed it when you said you slowed down.

Denver Dale


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Subject: Go figure! 

OK, I have complained about how 9.1 doesn't work on Youtube. Just 
posted a message about it in fact.

So, what did I do?  After posting my last post, about Youtube, I 
decided to take an I.E 11 trip to Youtube.  Spent over 90 minutes 
looking up stuff, listening to it, looking up other stuff, and then 
listening to that.

9.1 never crashed once.  It did get a bit goofy a time or two, but it 
seemed to fix itself.I was able to run searches, then select from 
those searches, something I could not do before.

I am doing nothing different than I ever have done, other than not 
rush my way around a web site I know fairly well.

So, just to be fair, I too now can say, I have used Youtube without 
any mishaps.  What was different, I have no idea.

Tomorrow will be another day, but won't borrow trouble before it gets here.

Go Figure!

Dave

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mixing audio using window-eyes

[Michael Micallef via Talk]

Hi guys, 

 

 

I need to produce a an audio tutorial using the computer, and for this
purpose, I need to record both the voice of the window-eyes screen reader
and my speech at the same time. 

 

 

Using Audiocity, can someone explain me which settings I need to change in
Audiocity so I can record both the computer speech and myself talking?  If
there is a better tool than audiocity, I'm open for suggestions.

 thank you in advance for your kind help. 

 

 

Michael Micallef 

 

 

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Re: Go figure!

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Yes, 9.1 is playing quite well with you-tube, never knew why my computers in 
thepast crashed, but they don't as much now, and  is cooperating.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:00 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Go figure!

OK, I have complained about how 9.1 doesn't work on Youtube. Just
posted a message about it in fact.

So, what did I do?  After posting my last post, about Youtube, I
decided to take an I.E 11 trip to Youtube.  Spent over 90 minutes
looking up stuff, listening to it, looking up other stuff, and then
listening to that.

9.1 never crashed once.  It did get a bit goofy a time or two, but it
seemed to fix itself.I was able to run searches, then select from
those searches, something I could not do before.

I am doing nothing different than I ever have done, other than not
rush my way around a web site I know fairly well.

So, just to be fair, I too now can say, I have used Youtube without
any mishaps.  What was different, I have no idea.

Tomorrow will be another day, but won't borrow trouble before it gets here.

Go Figure!

Dave

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Go figure!

[Dave via Talk]

OK, I have complained about how 9.1 doesn't work on Youtube. Just 
posted a message about it in fact.


So, what did I do?  After posting my last post, about Youtube, I 
decided to take an I.E 11 trip to Youtube.  Spent over 90 minutes 
looking up stuff, listening to it, looking up other stuff, and then 
listening to that.


9.1 never crashed once.  It did get a bit goofy a time or two, but it 
seemed to fix itself.I was able to run searches, then select from 
those searches, something I could not do before.


I am doing nothing different than I ever have done, other than not 
rush my way around a web site I know fairly well.


So, just to be fair, I too now can say, I have used Youtube without 
any mishaps.  What was different, I have no idea.


Tomorrow will be another day, but won't borrow trouble before it gets here.

Go Figure!

Dave

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Word 2013 tutorial

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
I am currently working my way through Marc Solomon's tutorial on 
Word2013 and having a problem.  Hopefully someone can help with a 
solution.


When Marc is moving through the ribbon menu items, his syn is giving 
lots more information and often saying,  "Tell me more" which indicates 
a back stage to the option.


I am not getting all of this info and have had a look through the 
"Verbosity" settings but can't locate any checkboxes which, if checked, 
would give me this extra info.


 Could someone please inform me which boxes to check or uncheck so the 
tutorials can be followed more closely?



Thanks
Neville.

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Re: You-tube

[Dave via Talk]

If I am using Win Eyes 9.1, I get very mixed results, 
mostly bad.


I still have an old system running Win XP and win eyes 8.4.  Every 
time I log into Youtube on this machine, I always am told my Browser 
is old and soon it will no longer be supported.  I go ahead and go 
about my way, doing searches, and doing the research I do.


If you are only able to use 9.1, about all I can say is move around 
on Youtube slowly, and even then, you might have Speech disappear, or 
the system lock up.


I have used 9.1 successfully on Youtube, but not very often.
I also have problems locating the Search Results after doing a Search 
on Youtube.


With 9.1, I get what seems like everything, but the results.

I do not know if this is true, but someone told me that Youtube and 
other Web Sites have a variety of Home Screens they display, 
depending upon the Browser the Customer is using.


The Machine I use with 9.1 has I.E. 11, and my old XP system has I.E. 8.

I hear there are a lot of Ads on Youtube, and these Ads cause 
problems for Win Eyes.


I do not know if Youtube has a Subscription Membership, where the Ads 
disappear if you are a Subscriber, for a monthly fee.I have been 
tempted to see if there is such a Membership, because I use Youtube a lot.



If you happen to discover any Tricks that can be used, be sure to 
share them here, as others will benefit.


At 12:18 PM 5/17/2015, you wrote:
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make WE and Youtube more 
compatible?

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RE: outlook contact issues

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Dave,

If you go to the Webinars page:

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Webinar_Training/

there is a two-part series on Outlook 2013, and the last part of part two
has a demo of managing contacts.
Just do a text search for the word "Outlook" to find these two webinars.

Hth,

Rod
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 3:02 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: outlook contact issues

Hi. I can't get window-eyes to read any contacts in outlook 2010. It just
says, contact read, and no information. I can't get a list of the contacts
that I have. When I type a search, outlook keeps saying my search yielded no
results, I have 1300 some contacts in that address book. I also can't get
the autocomplete feature to work. These might be outlook features, but how
do I get window-eyes to read me the contact info at all? I can't figure it
out. 

Thanks, Dave 


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You-tube

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make WE and Youtube more compatible? 
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I tunes?

[tchild via Talk]

Hi all, I just started trying to use I tunes. I can “muddle” through it 
but?? Is there an ap for W E I can get to make it easier to use, or some 
settings I can change? Thanks
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outlook contact issues

[Dave Bahr via Talk]

Hi. I can't get window-eyes to read any contacts in outlook 2010. It just
says, contact read, and no information. I can't get a list of the contacts
that I have. When I type a search, outlook keeps saying my search yielded no
results, I have 1300 some contacts in that address book. I also can't get
the autocomplete feature to work. These might be outlook features, but how
do I get window-eyes to read me the contact info at all? I can't figure it
out. 

Thanks, Dave 


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Re: A weird one

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

chris, please don't think that I personally thought you were suggesting 
that I play around with administration settings. Believe me, I would 
never go through all that, taking unnecessary risks with my system to 
accommodate a function such as Send too from a browser. Frankly, if it 
means anything at all to you, I think that it is incumbent on Microsoft 
not to confuse the issue by making such suggestions as I received when 
trying to carry out such a simple task. Anyway, try not to take it too 
personal.


BTW, I am using Avira here, and have received no indication that I have 
any viruses. Must admit though that I am not using any Malware 
protection of any kind. Pretty reckless huh.


I will ask you, and anyone else who wishes to offer there good advice. 
Does anybody recommend Defender as being reasonably reliable when it 
comes to protection from either viruses or Malware?


I was a user of Nod32 about 5 years ago, and thought it was giving me 
all the protection I would need, but a virus got past that one too. 
There Tech Support staff directed me, even sent me a file to combat the 
virus, but it didn't work. I tried getting rid of it manually, like an 
idiot, and ended up having to put my computer in the shop in order to 
get it cleaned up. That experience taught me that people swear by virus 
protection programs until they swear at them.


Now I know that virus protection is necessary, and that even free virus 
protection is better than none, but I must admit that I have a pretty 
low level of trust these days when it comes to these kinds of programs. 
I mean, I was really rather disappointed with Nod32. Now, I do realize 
that nothing on earth is perfect, but I guess this kind of compares to 
eating at a restaurant, where you find the food is good and tasty, only 
to later discover that you  have food poisoning. You just never quite 
get over it, even though you realize that everybody, even a restaurant 
probably deserves a second chance. You just don't want to take the 
chance yourself.


OK, that is quite enough from me this time around.

And don't worry Chris, I'm sure you meant no harm, and as long as I've 
been using a 'puter, I think the Onus (if that is anywhere near the 
proper usage) is really on me not to rush headlong and make stupid and 
idiotic mistakes. Now hopefully my own accumulated wisdom will hold for 
a very long time to come .


Take care,

Larry


On 5/17/2015 1:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:
I agree with Jim that you never never never never never ever! want to 
change the permissions yourself by hand manually.


Let's get something very clear!  I never once said for him to go 
dabbling around changing permissions himself.  Did you even  so much 
as think of reading my e-mail in full?  I doubt it!  What I said, for 
the second time, was, does he have any sort of software package that 
would run a disk maintanence and check, key word, check! I didn't say, 
repair, I said, check! the integrety of the disk.


Do you really think with me being A Plus certified, that I'm gonna 
have someone do something as stupid as manually modifying disk 
permissions?  Give me a break, for crying out loud!  That's a real 
nice way to corrupt your system!  You're just asking for it!


I suppose next, you're gonna tell me that it's a real bad idea for him 
to put the Windows DVD in his drive, go to the run dialog, and then type:


sfc /fixall

Really?

I was just trying to help!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk" 

To: "'Larry Higgins'" ; "'Window-Eyes 
Discussion List'" 

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: A weird one



No! No! No!
What-ever you do, do not start messing about with your permissions on 
your
system. They are assigned the way they are assigned for a reason. 
They are

put there for your security. You definitely do not want to run as an
administrator either, windows will prompt you when administrator 
privileges

are required and User Account Control will definitely protect you.  your
first idea is good. If it is not broken. Do not fix it
as for your second problem programs such as Internet Explorer do not 
have
permissions to access the desktop and therefore they cannot send 
shortcuts

to the desktop nor do you want them to this is to protect you against
malware and other things that could be used to access your file system
through these means. This is normal behavior and every Windows box will
exhibit the same behavior. I just tested it myself on three separate 
boxes

and can confirm that this is normal behavior
so this is not strange or odd behavior either. It is the way things are
supposed to be


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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of put

Re: A weird one

[Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk]

I agree with Jim that you never never never never never ever! want to change 
the permissions yourself by hand manually.


Let's get something very clear!  I never once said for him to go dabbling 
around changing permissions himself.  Did you even  so much as think of 
reading my e-mail in full?  I doubt it!  What I said, for the second time, 
was, does he have any sort of software package that would run a disk 
maintanence and check, key word, check! I didn't say, repair, I said, check! 
the integrety of the disk.


Do you really think with me being A Plus certified, that I'm gonna have 
someone do something as stupid as manually modifying disk permissions?  Give 
me a break, for crying out loud!  That's a real nice way to corrupt your 
system!  You're just asking for it!


I suppose next, you're gonna tell me that it's a real bad idea for him to 
put the Windows DVD in his drive, go to the run dialog, and then type:


sfc /fixall

Really?

I was just trying to help!

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk" 
To: "'Larry Higgins'" ; "'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'" 

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:15 AM
Subject: RE: A weird one



No! No! No!
What-ever you do, do not start messing about with your permissions on your
system. They are assigned the way they are assigned for a reason. They are
put there for your security. You definitely do not want to run as an
administrator either, windows will prompt you when administrator 
privileges

are required and User Account Control will definitely protect you.  your
first idea is good. If it is not broken. Do not fix it
as for your second problem programs such as Internet Explorer do not have
permissions to access the desktop and therefore they cannot send shortcuts
to the desktop nor do you want them to this is to protect you against
malware and other things that could be used to access your file system
through these means. This is normal behavior and every Windows box will
exhibit the same behavior. I just tested it myself on three separate boxes
and can confirm that this is normal behavior
so this is not strange or odd behavior either. It is the way things are
supposed to be


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance 
immediately
if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the favorites menu 
in

IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this behavior, and
especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of Windows. I've never had
that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter user, and that's been a long
time.

Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno.
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging 
every

time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, or
installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a pretty
serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But even after 
all

these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with permissions, as
strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of if it aint broke
don't fix it.

On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating 
favorites
shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's favorites menu. 
But

still, this function shouldn't return a response like that one. I'm still
somewhat baffled.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is
probably on your desktop.
Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites
folder.
Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to,
press Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create
shortcut), and press Enter again.
Close your user folder since you're done using it.
Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the
Favorites icon on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder,
which contains all your link shortcuts.
>From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes
>to
copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a
shortcut to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had,
perhaps not, but you could try it.
Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work
wit

Re: A weird one

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Thanks Jim. That is also what I do most of the time, including the hot 
keys. I just found the error message rather peculiar, especially since 
it didn't give me a definite reason for why it wasn't working, only that 
my disk might be full. I mean, What a crock, especially coming on behalf 
of the OS. Tell me exactly what the problem is, so that I can take 
proper steps to solve it, not some shot in the dark attempt at a diagnosis.


Now keep in mind, I'm talking about Windows, not you Jim . your 
suggestions are both good and welcome. I just wont bother with the IE 
send too option, I'd rather do it myself anyway.


Thanks again,

Larry

On 5/17/2015 7:18 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk wrote:

If I want to manage my favorites. I simply opened up my user folder go down
to my favorites folder and deal with my favorites as I would any other
folder. This is the most efficient method in my opinion of dealing with
them. I have keyboard commands I can organize my folders as I wish I can
make shortcuts and I can even assign hotkeys. I never do, but you can if you
want
Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:32 AM
To: 'Larry Higgins'
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A weird one

Hi Larry,

Actually, it's Rod, like a fishing rod. Smile You know, I just got the same
message as you did when I tried it.
I think this means it's not the recommended way of doing it as far as
Windows is concerned.
To be honest, I don't use this method of copying and icon to the desktop if
I'm working with the Favorites menu.
What I would do is choose the Copy option from the context menu rather than
Send to, and then paste it onto the desktop.
If I try this, it works every time.

Hth,

Rod
.

-Original Message-
From: Larry Higgins [mailto:larryhiggin...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 7:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance immediately
if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the favorites menu in
IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this behavior, and
especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of Windows. I've never had
that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter user, and that's been a long
time.

Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno.
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging every
time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, or
installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a pretty
serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But even after all
these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with permissions, as
strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of if it aint broke
don't fix it.

On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating favorites
shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's favorites menu. But
still, this function shouldn't return a response like that one. I'm still
somewhat baffled.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is
probably

on

your desktop.
Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites
folder.
Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to,

press

Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create shortcut), and

press

Enter again.
Close your user folder since you're done using it.
Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the
Favorites

icon

on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder, which contains
all your link shortcuts.
>From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes

to

copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a
shortcut to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had,
perhaps not, but you could try it.
Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work
with since you can sort them as you do any files in a typical explorer

view.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On

Behalf

Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:29 PM
To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A weird one

Well Christopher, what to do?

On 5/16/2015 8:02

Re: question

[Stephen Clark via Talk]

Yeah there is an option that says "Change" which is very misleading. I 
used it once when I was having all sorts of problems and thought it 
would give me options to repair the installation or something. All it 
does is completely remove WE from the system. That's all. Don't know why 
it's even there.


On 5/17/2015 1:19 AM, michael's mail boxl via Talk wrote:

Hi guys i was wondering how to do a repair on WE.
I was thinking about going to add and remove programs and i think it comes
up about removing or repair after you click on the program is that right.
Cheers Michael.
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RE: Phantom Items Being Read

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Jim: A Desktop Keyboard, "standard" if that is even a consideration these
days.
It has the "standard" NumPad on the far right and those are the mouse keys I
use.
Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:jgrim...@roadrunner.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 9:01 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Ok cool what type of mouse do you have on this box?  
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 5:34 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi Guys: After I have turned off the Mouse Voice setting and the Track Mouse
With Cursor setting I have not had any phantom reading so far.
I have not turned off the Automatically  Read baloon Tips yet but may do
that later as Rod mentioned.
I did route the mouse to the Desktop so it would duplicate one of the prior
tests that was reading what was under the mouse and that is seemingly no
longer causing a phantom reading of what is under the mouse while the NumPad
read mouse keys still work properly as I think Jim had noted.
This has been an intermittant problem so I cant say this "fixed" the problem
for sure but the past 2 days have been phantom reading free so far.
If it comes back I will try turning reading of baloon tips if it is even on
- think I may have turned it of some time ago, but so far so good.
When I feel comfortable I will switch to Windows 10 and start all over but
document what I can this time in case others have problems I will run up
against.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:53 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi Rick,

One thing you could disable is an option in the Windows Enhanced app, under
Toasts and Balloon tips, it may help to disable the first option,
Automatically route mouse to toasts and balloon tips.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi: I changed the subject to narrow this particular problem discussion.
OK:
Thinking on this I thought I would first try and figure out where phantom
reading might occur and why.
First phantom speech could be coming from WE reading something under the
Mouse Cursor as Chip mentioned but why would WE read something under the
Mouse Cursor if I do not press the mouse, numpad, keys to read anything and,
in fact have pressed some standard key on the keyboard?
Chip mentioned that WE will try and read, think it was, tool tips
automatically which means WE is watching for things to automatically happen
on the screen and read something based on screen activity rather than just
the press of a keyboard key.
Now, I have unchecked the relevant option in the WE Control Panel to disable
this from happening but it still happens, errant reading of items from
someplace on the screen outside of where focus is suppose to be.
It happens in both Internet Explorer and in a standard Desktop Application
so not related to Internet Explorer.
So, outside of reading Tool Tips automatically, what else is suppose to be
read automatically by WindowEyes without being a response to a keyboard
action or what may be read under the Mouse or the WE Cursor automatically in
response to a non mouse or WE Cursor keyboard event being requested by
pressing a Numpad key (mouse cursor or WE Cursor keys)?
Knowing just a little about WE Scripting WE has to be executing a speek
command at the wrong time to actually speak the phantom item.
Could it be WE trying to read something under the Mouse Cursor or WE Cursor
or could it be some buffering problem and is there a test I can do to figure
out which, or neither, of these may be behind the problem?
Rick USA


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RE: Phantom Items Being Read

[Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk]

Ok cool what type of mouse do you have on this box?  
Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 5:34 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi Guys: After I have turned off the Mouse Voice setting and the Track Mouse
With Cursor setting I have not had any phantom reading so far.
I have not turned off the Automatically  Read baloon Tips yet but may do
that later as Rod mentioned.
I did route the mouse to the Desktop so it would duplicate one of the prior
tests that was reading what was under the mouse and that is seemingly no
longer causing a phantom reading of what is under the mouse while the NumPad
read mouse keys still work properly as I think Jim had noted.
This has been an intermittant problem so I cant say this "fixed" the problem
for sure but the past 2 days have been phantom reading free so far.
If it comes back I will try turning reading of baloon tips if it is even on
- think I may have turned it of some time ago, but so far so good.
When I feel comfortable I will switch to Windows 10 and start all over but
document what I can this time in case others have problems I will run up
against.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:53 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi Rick,

One thing you could disable is an option in the Windows Enhanced app, under
Toasts and Balloon tips, it may help to disable the first option,
Automatically route mouse to toasts and balloon tips.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi: I changed the subject to narrow this particular problem discussion.
OK:
Thinking on this I thought I would first try and figure out where phantom
reading might occur and why.
First phantom speech could be coming from WE reading something under the
Mouse Cursor as Chip mentioned but why would WE read something under the
Mouse Cursor if I do not press the mouse, numpad, keys to read anything and,
in fact have pressed some standard key on the keyboard?
Chip mentioned that WE will try and read, think it was, tool tips
automatically which means WE is watching for things to automatically happen
on the screen and read something based on screen activity rather than just
the press of a keyboard key.
Now, I have unchecked the relevant option in the WE Control Panel to disable
this from happening but it still happens, errant reading of items from
someplace on the screen outside of where focus is suppose to be.
It happens in both Internet Explorer and in a standard Desktop Application
so not related to Internet Explorer.
So, outside of reading Tool Tips automatically, what else is suppose to be
read automatically by WindowEyes without being a response to a keyboard
action or what may be read under the Mouse or the WE Cursor automatically in
response to a non mouse or WE Cursor keyboard event being requested by
pressing a Numpad key (mouse cursor or WE Cursor keys)?
Knowing just a little about WE Scripting WE has to be executing a speek
command at the wrong time to actually speak the phantom item.
Could it be WE trying to read something under the Mouse Cursor or WE Cursor
or could it be some buffering problem and is there a test I can do to figure
out which, or neither, of these may be behind the problem?
Rick USA


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RE: Phantom Items Being Read

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi Guys: After I have turned off the Mouse Voice setting and the Track Mouse
With Cursor setting I have not had any phantom reading so far.
I have not turned off the Automatically  Read baloon Tips yet but may do
that later as Rod mentioned.
I did route the mouse to the Desktop so it would duplicate one of the prior
tests that was reading what was under the mouse and that is seemingly no
longer causing a phantom reading of what is under the mouse while the NumPad
read mouse keys still work properly as I think Jim had noted.
This has been an intermittant problem so I cant say this "fixed" the problem
for sure but the past 2 days have been phantom reading free so far.
If it comes back I will try turning reading of baloon tips if it is even on
- think I may have turned it of some time ago, but so far so good.
When I feel comfortable I will switch to Windows 10 and start all over but
document what I can this time in case others have problems I will run up
against.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:53 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi Rick,

One thing you could disable is an option in the Windows Enhanced app, under
Toasts and Balloon tips, it may help to disable the first option,
Automatically route mouse to toasts and balloon tips.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Phantom Items Being Read

Hi: I changed the subject to narrow this particular problem discussion.
OK:
Thinking on this I thought I would first try and figure out where phantom
reading might occur and why.
First phantom speech could be coming from WE reading something under the
Mouse Cursor as Chip mentioned but why would WE read something under the
Mouse Cursor if I do not press the mouse, numpad, keys to read anything and,
in fact have pressed some standard key on the keyboard?
Chip mentioned that WE will try and read, think it was, tool tips
automatically which means WE is watching for things to automatically happen
on the screen and read something based on screen activity rather than just
the press of a keyboard key.
Now, I have unchecked the relevant option in the WE Control Panel to disable
this from happening but it still happens, errant reading of items from
someplace on the screen outside of where focus is suppose to be.
It happens in both Internet Explorer and in a standard Desktop Application
so not related to Internet Explorer.
So, outside of reading Tool Tips automatically, what else is suppose to be
read automatically by WindowEyes without being a response to a keyboard
action or what may be read under the Mouse or the WE Cursor automatically in
response to a non mouse or WE Cursor keyboard event being requested by
pressing a Numpad key (mouse cursor or WE Cursor keys)?
Knowing just a little about WE Scripting WE has to be executing a speek
command at the wrong time to actually speak the phantom item.
Could it be WE trying to read something under the Mouse Cursor or WE Cursor
or could it be some buffering problem and is there a test I can do to figure
out which, or neither, of these may be behind the problem?
Rick USA


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RE: A weird one

[Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk]

If I want to manage my favorites. I simply opened up my user folder go down
to my favorites folder and deal with my favorites as I would any other
folder. This is the most efficient method in my opinion of dealing with
them. I have keyboard commands I can organize my folders as I wish I can
make shortcuts and I can even assign hotkeys. I never do, but you can if you
want
Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:32 AM
To: 'Larry Higgins'
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A weird one

Hi Larry,

Actually, it's Rod, like a fishing rod. Smile You know, I just got the same
message as you did when I tried it.
I think this means it's not the recommended way of doing it as far as
Windows is concerned.
To be honest, I don't use this method of copying and icon to the desktop if
I'm working with the Favorites menu.
What I would do is choose the Copy option from the context menu rather than
Send to, and then paste it onto the desktop.
If I try this, it works every time.

Hth,

Rod
.

-Original Message-
From: Larry Higgins [mailto:larryhiggin...@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 7:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance immediately
if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the favorites menu in
IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this behavior, and
especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of Windows. I've never had
that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter user, and that's been a long
time.

Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno. 
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging every
time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, or
installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a pretty
serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But even after all
these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with permissions, as
strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of if it aint broke
don't fix it.

On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating favorites
shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's favorites menu. But
still, this function shouldn't return a response like that one. I'm still
somewhat baffled.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is 
> probably
on
> your desktop.
> Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites 
> folder.
> Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to,
press
> Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create shortcut), and
press
> Enter again.
> Close your user folder since you're done using it.
> Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
> Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the 
> Favorites
icon
> on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder, which contains 
> all your link shortcuts.
> >From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes 
> >to
> copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
> I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a 
> shortcut to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had, 
> perhaps not, but you could try it.
> Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work 
> with since you can sort them as you do any files in a typical explorer
view.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:29 PM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: A weird one
>
> Well Christopher, what to do?
>
> On 5/16/2015 8:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Hmm, bad disk permissions?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Higgins via Talk"
>> 
>> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:23 AM
>> Subject: A weird one
>>
>>
>>> Hello again listers,
>>>
>>> This one is just too strange. When I go to send a shortcut to the 
>>> desktop, from my favorites list in IE I get a dialog box with the 
>>> following message "Windows could not create the shortcut. Check to 
>>> see if the disk is full." This is next to impossible to understand, 
>>> especially with a 1tb drive with somewhere around 900g

RE: A weird one

[Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk]

No! No! No!
What-ever you do, do not start messing about with your permissions on your
system. They are assigned the way they are assigned for a reason. They are
put there for your security. You definitely do not want to run as an
administrator either, windows will prompt you when administrator privileges
are required and User Account Control will definitely protect you.  your
first idea is good. If it is not broken. Do not fix it
as for your second problem programs such as Internet Explorer do not have
permissions to access the desktop and therefore they cannot send shortcuts
to the desktop nor do you want them to this is to protect you against
malware and other things that could be used to access your file system
through these means. This is normal behavior and every Windows box will
exhibit the same behavior. I just tested it myself on three separate boxes
and can confirm that this is normal behavior
so this is not strange or odd behavior either. It is the way things are
supposed to be


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance immediately
if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the favorites menu in
IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this behavior, and
especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of Windows. I've never had
that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter user, and that's been a long
time.

Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno. 
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging every
time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, or
installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a pretty
serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But even after all
these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with permissions, as
strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of if it aint broke
don't fix it.

On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating favorites
shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's favorites menu. But
still, this function shouldn't return a response like that one. I'm still
somewhat baffled.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is 
> probably on your desktop.
> Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites 
> folder.
> Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to, 
> press Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create 
> shortcut), and press Enter again.
> Close your user folder since you're done using it.
> Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
> Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the 
> Favorites icon on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder, 
> which contains all your link shortcuts.
> >From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes 
> >to
> copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
> I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a 
> shortcut to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had, 
> perhaps not, but you could try it.
> Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work 
> with since you can sort them as you do any files in a typical explorer
view.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:29 PM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: A weird one
>
> Well Christopher, what to do?
>
> On 5/16/2015 8:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Hmm, bad disk permissions?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Higgins via Talk"
>> 
>> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:23 AM
>> Subject: A weird one
>>
>>
>>> Hello again listers,
>>>
>>> This one is just too strange. When I go to send a shortcut to the 
>>> desktop, from my favorites list in IE I get a dialog box with the 
>>> following message "Windows could not create the shortcut. Check to 
>>> see if the disk is full." This is next to impossible to understand, 
>>> especially with a 1tb drive with somewhere around 900gb available 
>>> for populating. Lots of real estate. So, what could be happening 

RE: question

[Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk]

Hello,
if you could explain exactly what you were hoping to accomplish. We might be
better able to assist you. For example, if you're attempting to reinstall
factory settings you would want to go to the file menu in the window-eyes
control panel and go down to the factory sets option the shortcut for this
is F. This will allow you to reinstall any factory set files that you wish.
If on the other hand you would like to start with a completely fresh user
profile, simply delete the window-eyes folder found in your user folder,
with window-eyes not running. Of course, restart window-eyes and a new
folder will be created and the default scripts will be installed. If you're
attempting to accomplish something else. Please do let us know.
I do hope this helps!


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of michael's mail box via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:02 AM
To: Rod Hutton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

Okay thanks Rod it sounds like it is not what i want.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:52 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question

Hi,

Here's what the manual says about Reset:
R = Reset Settings
Choosing this option will cause Window-Eyes to revert to the settings you
previously saved to disk. This is especially useful if you make some changes
you do not like, or you inadvertently modify a setting that has negative
consequences. Note that this option will not reset Window-Eyes to factory
defaults; it only loads the settings you last saved to disk.

So, it sounds like it simply reloads the current set file.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:45 AM
To: christopher hallsworth; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

i don't know what it does. but you can open the w e control panel and use
reset in the file pull down.
and you could re install the wineyes user interface and restore the factory
global settings from the factory set file screen  and check that all the
factory set files are up to date.. trying these options may save you from
having to reinstall wineyes.

-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:37 PM
To: michael's mail boxl ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

You can only uninstall the program, not modify or repair it.
> On 17 May 2015, at 06:19, michael's mail boxl via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi guys i was wondering how to do a repair on WE.
> I was thinking about going to add and remove programs and i think it 
> comes up about removing or repair after you click on the program is that
right.
> Cheers Michael.
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RE: A weird one

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Larry,

Actually, it's Rod, like a fishing rod. Smile
You know, I just got the same message as you did when I tried it.
I think this means it's not the recommended way of doing it as far as
Windows is concerned.
To be honest, I don't use this method of copying and icon to the desktop if
I'm working with the Favorites menu.
What I would do is choose the Copy option from the context menu rather than
Send to, and then paste it onto the desktop.
If I try this, it works every time.

Hth,

Rod
.

-Original Message-
From: Larry Higgins [mailto:larryhiggin...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 7:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: A weird one

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the 
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the 
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to 
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance 
immediately if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the 
favorites menu in IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this 
behavior, and especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of 
Windows. I've never had that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter 
user, and that's been a long time.

Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno. 
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all 
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging 
every time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, 
or installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a 
pretty serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But 
even after all these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with 
permissions, as strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of 
if it aint broke don't fix it.

On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating 
favorites shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's 
favorites menu. But still, this function shouldn't return a response 
like that one. I'm still somewhat baffled.

Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is probably
on
> your desktop.
> Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites
> folder.
> Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to,
press
> Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create shortcut), and
press
> Enter again.
> Close your user folder since you're done using it.
> Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
> Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the Favorites
icon
> on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder, which contains all
> your link shortcuts.
> >From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes to
> copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
> I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a shortcut
> to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had, perhaps not, but
> you could try it.
> Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work with
> since you can sort them as you do any files in a typical explorer view.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:29 PM
> To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: A weird one
>
> Well Christopher, what to do?
>
> On 5/16/2015 8:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Hmm, bad disk permissions?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Higgins via Talk"
>> 
>> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:23 AM
>> Subject: A weird one
>>
>>
>>> Hello again listers,
>>>
>>> This one is just too strange. When I go to send a shortcut to the
>>> desktop, from my favorites list in IE I get a dialog box with the
>>> following message "Windows could not create the shortcut. Check to
>>> see if the disk is full." This is next to impossible to understand,
>>> especially with a 1tb drive with somewhere around 900gb available for
>>> populating. Lots of real estate. So, what could be happening here?
>>>
>>> I just tried copying a 230mb file to the desktop, and no problem at all.
>>>
>>> All I am trying to do is make a shortcut on my desktop to the BARD
>>> site so I wont have to go to favorites or even open up the browser to
>>> my home page to do so. Nothing big really . Anyway, any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
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Re: question

[michael's mail box via Talk]

Okay thanks Rod it sounds like it is not what i want.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:52 PM
To: 'net bat' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question

Hi,

Here's what the manual says about Reset:
R = Reset Settings
Choosing this option will cause Window-Eyes to revert to the settings you
previously
saved to disk. This is especially useful if you make some changes you do not
like,
or you inadvertently modify a setting that has negative consequences. Note
that this
option will not
reset
Window-Eyes to factory defaults; it only loads the settings you last saved
to disk.

So, it sounds like it simply reloads the current set file.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:45 AM
To: christopher hallsworth; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

i don't know what it does. but you can open the w e control panel and use
reset in the file pull down.
and you could re install the wineyes user interface and restore the factory
global settings from the factory set file screen  and check that all the
factory set files are up to date.. trying these options may save you from
having to reinstall wineyes.

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:37 PM
To: michael's mail boxl ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

You can only uninstall the program, not modify or repair it.

On 17 May 2015, at 06:19, michael's mail boxl via Talk
 wrote:

Hi guys i was wondering how to do a repair on WE.
I was thinking about going to add and remove programs and i think it comes
up about removing or repair after you click on the program is that right.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: A weird one

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Hello Rob, and thanks for your suggestion.

With the exception of putting a shortcut for my favorites folder on the 
desktop, I did what you suggested by using the send too option for the 
favorites folder entry. I do use this method quite often when wanting to 
make desktop shortcuts, and would have done so in this instance 
immediately if I hadn't been rather obsessed with the weirdness in the 
favorites menu in IE. I just can't figure out what might be causing this 
behavior, and especially its theoretical explanation Courtesy of 
Windows. I've never had that happen for as long as I've been a 'puter 
user, and that's been a long time.


Someone mentioned the possibility of faulty permissions, but I dunno. 
Since I am the only user of this PC, then I guess I should make all 
permissions wide open, and I wouldn't have to put up with the nagging 
every time I want to perform a simple function such as deleting a file, 
or installing a program. OK, I know, installing apps or programs is a 
pretty serious consideration, but again, it's just me after all. But 
even after all these years, I'm still Leary of messing too much with 
permissions, as strange as that might seem. Kind of along the lines of 
if it aint broke don't fix it.


On the whole though, I think I like your suggestions for creating 
favorites shortcuts rather  than using the send too option in IE's 
favorites menu. But still, this function shouldn't return a response 
like that one. I'm still somewhat baffled.


Anyway, I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Larry

On 5/16/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Hutton wrote:

Hi Larry,

May I suggest you go to your user folder, the icon for which is probably on
your desktop.
Once this folder opens, press the letter F to highlight the Favorites
folder.
Then, press the Applications key or Shift-F10, arrow down to Send to, press
Enter to expand this, and arrow down to Desktop (Create shortcut), and press
Enter again.
Close your user folder since you're done using it.
Now you'll have a Favorites icon on your desktop.
Now, when you want to copy an icon to your desktop, click the Favorites icon
on your desktop, which will open the Favorites folder, which contains all
your link shortcuts.
>From here, you should be able to use normal copy and paste keystrokes to
copy any of your link shortcuts to your desktop.
I figure you should be able to also use Send to as well to send a shortcut
to your desktop, but, because of the problem you've had, perhaps not, but
you could try it.
Note that this method of locating link shortcuts is easier to work with
since you can sort them as you do any files in a typical explorer view.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:29 PM
To: Christopher-Mark Gilland; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A weird one

Well Christopher, what to do?

On 5/16/2015 8:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Hmm, bad disk permissions?

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Larry Higgins via Talk"

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 6:23 AM
Subject: A weird one



Hello again listers,

This one is just too strange. When I go to send a shortcut to the
desktop, from my favorites list in IE I get a dialog box with the
following message "Windows could not create the shortcut. Check to
see if the disk is full." This is next to impossible to understand,
especially with a 1tb drive with somewhere around 900gb available for
populating. Lots of real estate. So, what could be happening here?

I just tried copying a 230mb file to the desktop, and no problem at all.

All I am trying to do is make a shortcut on my desktop to the BARD
site so I wont have to go to favorites or even open up the browser to
my home page to do so. Nothing big really . Anyway, any ideas?

Thanks,

Larry

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RE: question

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi,

Here's what the manual says about Reset:
R = Reset Settings
Choosing this option will cause Window-Eyes to revert to the settings you
previously
saved to disk. This is especially useful if you make some changes you do not
like,
or you inadvertently modify a setting that has negative consequences. Note
that this
option will not
reset
 Window-Eyes to factory defaults; it only loads the settings you last saved
to disk.

So, it sounds like it simply reloads the current set file.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:45 AM
To: christopher hallsworth; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

i don't know what it does. but you can open the w e control panel and use 
reset in the file pull down.
and you could re install the wineyes user interface and restore the factory 
global settings from the factory set file screen  and check that all the 
factory set files are up to date.. trying these options may save you from 
having to reinstall wineyes.

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:37 PM
To: michael's mail boxl ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question

You can only uninstall the program, not modify or repair it.
> On 17 May 2015, at 06:19, michael's mail boxl via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi guys i was wondering how to do a repair on WE.
> I was thinking about going to add and remove programs and i think it comes
> up about removing or repair after you click on the program is that right.
> Cheers Michael.
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