date:20150727

Hi,
Turn them off completely.
1.  Press alt-t for tools.
2.  Press O for options.
3.  Press control-tab three times.   You should be in the content view.
4.  Tab to the first button labeled settings and press space.
Tab through and uncheck each item you don't want to auto complete.

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Subject: turning off suggestions

when I am  in ie11 with we9.1.0 keep hearing suggestions when typing a website. 
how do I turn  suggestions  off/?

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WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

2015-07-27 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi Guys: Has WindowEyes ever started looking at the standard Winforms
Controls for accessibility and their selectable Accessibility settings for
use with screen readers?
I am again considering the TabbedDocument, views, control and perhaps the
Winforms Grid control with lists or tables inside each grid column for a
display on a windows form.
In the past WindowEyes did not handle the TabbedDocument control well and I
have never even tried the grid control pretty much guessing WE would either
fail completely or be a mess to try and use.
The consideration of WindowEyes of the old, dos style, xml quote standard
windows controls is decades out of use by anyone who programs against the
windows platform and the Visual Studio quote standard controls listed in the
windows tool box for development of windows based applications is what is,
and has for many years now, been what all windows developers use. But Ihave
never heard of WindowEyes having any accessibility documentation on either
the accessibility of these controls nor what properties to set to make them
accessible to WindowEyes.
Has anyone heard about WindowEyes getting more involved with the modern
windows platforms and the related controlls used by windows developers or
are they still only considering the old dos controls the quote standard
windows controls?
Rick USA

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WE Development Platform

2015-07-27 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi Again:
Do you know if the developers at WindowEyes, AI2, have anyone developing
full-time using Visual Studio?
I just thought about this since I read something about another screen reader
having folks using Visual Studio full-time and thus their developers are
very aware of the windows controls used to develop projects against windows
and even for the web.
There are great project management tools produced by Microsoft, Visual
Studio is the gold standard when it comes to any Microsoft Project
development and the Microsoft Database and Database Management tools the
best on the market and...
WindowEyes is suppose to be a Microsoft Partner so shouldn't I expect them
to be using the Microsoft development platforms and management software on a
regular basis?
If this all sounds like griping perhaps you are right but I have been wating
and waiting to hear that WindowEyes would be going Microsoft ever since the
big publicity campaign about WindowEyes becoming a Microsoft Partner but
heard nothing since.
I am not slamming WE but trying to get a handle on if it is going to be a
useful tool for a major project I am building in Visual Studio which right
now it is not a solid choice.
Just frustrated with the hope and now the dwindling expectations of using
WindowEyes on modern development platforms - especially Visual Studio.
Rick USA

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MSN

2015-07-27 Thread Martha Reaney via Talk

Hi.

My sister tells me that this url goes to an article that has a series of slides.
Using Windows XP, WE 8.4, FF or IE, I was unable to access the text on the 
slides.

I have WE 9.1, but, am waiting for my new desktop to install it and use it with 
Windows 7 or 10.

Is there a way to access the text in this "article"?  

Is this a common practice of MSN to present the articles as  slides?

Is there an alternative (mobile) site that has better accessibility?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/8-surprising-things-dogs-can-tell-about-you/ss-AAcVtti#image=1

Martha
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Re: MSN

Hi Martha:

I just tried the link with the latest version of Firefox and
Window-eyes 9.1.  I was able to read, what I assume is the text of the
slides, because when I clicked on the Next Slide button, the text
changed.

By the way, verry interesting study on dogs and their behaviour towards humans.

Kevin Huber

On 7/27/15, Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> My sister tells me that this url goes to an article that has a series of
> slides.
> Using Windows XP, WE 8.4, FF or IE, I was unable to access the text on the
> slides.
>
> I have WE 9.1, but, am waiting for my new desktop to install it and use it
> with Windows 7 or 10.
>
> Is there a way to access the text in this "article"?
>
> Is this a common practice of MSN to present the articles as  slides?
>
> Is there an alternative (mobile) site that has better accessibility?
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/8-surprising-things-dogs-can-tell-about-you/ss-AAcVtti#image=1
>
> Martha
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Re: WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

Hi Rick:
Have you brought this issue up on the scripting list?
Perhaps that is where this discussion needs to take place because that
is where most of the Window-eyes scripters are subscribed.
Kevin Huber
  On 7/27/15, Rick Thomas via Talk  wrote:
> Hi Guys: Has WindowEyes ever started looking at the standard Winforms
> Controls for accessibility and their selectable Accessibility settings for
> use with screen readers?
> I am again considering the TabbedDocument, views, control and perhaps the
> Winforms Grid control with lists or tables inside each grid column for a
> display on a windows form.
> In the past WindowEyes did not handle the TabbedDocument control well and I
> have never even tried the grid control pretty much guessing WE would either
> fail completely or be a mess to try and use.
> The consideration of WindowEyes of the old, dos style, xml quote standard
> windows controls is decades out of use by anyone who programs against the
> windows platform and the Visual Studio quote standard controls listed in
> the
> windows tool box for development of windows based applications is what is,
> and has for many years now, been what all windows developers use. But Ihave
> never heard of WindowEyes having any accessibility documentation on either
> the accessibility of these controls nor what properties to set to make them
> accessible to WindowEyes.
> Has anyone heard about WindowEyes getting more involved with the modern
> windows platforms and the related controlls used by windows developers or
> are they still only considering the old dos controls the quote standard
> windows controls?
> Rick USA
>
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Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new 
Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. 
Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes 
innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and 
responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to the 
latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and productive at 
work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in 
Window-Eyes 9.2:
Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o   Windows 10 Start menu

o   Action Center

o   Virtual Desktops

o   Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in the 
Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.
Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that 
makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.

*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement their 
own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these site-specific 
commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads to a more intuitive 
and efficient web browsing experience.
New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables you to 
restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes unresponsive.  
We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 9.2.  If Internet 
Explorer stops responding, it would often keep Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, 
if Internet Explorer stops responding, Window-Eyes will continue speaking 
automatically without requiring the user to do anything.
Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, called 
Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for Adobe Reader DC, 
enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits offered by the free PDF 
viewer.
Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance enhancements, 
including improved speech responsiveness and stability.

*For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in 
Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
Me.
Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is 
available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an active 
Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when notified, get it 
at www.gwmicro.com/upgrade or activate the 
Check for Updates option in the Help menu.
Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  Anyone who 
has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download Window-Eyes 
for free at www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If 
you haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 
9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely free! It 
will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be available for you to 
download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD.  You may order a CD by 
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installing Windows 10

When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?

Thanks
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Re: installing Windows 10

Yes.  As with previous Windows upgrades, Windows-ENTER will launch 
Narrator to talk you through the rest of Windows Setup.

On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:

When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
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Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am beyond 
impressed.  The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE, Thunderbird, 
or Outlook 365.

Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?

Bob

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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

2015-07-27 Thread Lynn White via Talk

When I go to the online catalog after entering my serial number and
postal code, it tells me to call regarding my copy of Window-Eyes.

On 7/27/2015 8:51 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new
Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016.
Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes
innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and
responsive screen reading experience. Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to the
latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and productive at
work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in
Window-Eyes 9.2:
Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o Windows 10 Start menu

o Action Center

o Virtual Desktops

o Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in the
Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.
Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that
makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.

*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement their
own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these site-specific
commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads to a more intuitive
and efficient web browsing experience.
New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables you to
restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes unresponsive.
We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 9.2. If Internet
Explorer stops responding, it would often keep Window-Eyes from speaking. Now,
if Internet Explorer stops responding, Window-Eyes will continue speaking
automatically without requiring the user to do anything.
Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, called
Adobe Acrobat Reader DC. Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for Adobe Reader DC,
enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits offered by the free PDF
viewer.
Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance enhancements,
including improved speech responsiveness and stability.

*For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in Window-Eyes
9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read
Me.
Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is available.
If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an active Software
Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when notified, get it at
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade or activate the Check
for Updates option in the Help menu.
Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free! Anyone who has a
valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download Window-Eyes for free at
www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If you haven't
tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely free! It
will not count against your SMA. Window-Eyes 9.2 will be available for you to
download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD. You may order a CD by
contacting Ai Squared.
Order your upgrade or SMA today!
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Re: turning off suggestions

2015-07-27 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

I don't think it's that, because I think it is in internet explorer, not 
window eyes.  Pam.

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From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:44 AM
To: richard kurlander ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: turning off suggestions

i'm not sure. but it may be the i e enhanced app. try turning this app off 
and

see if it stops.

-Original Message- 
From: richard kurlander via Talk

Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 9:41 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: turning off suggestions

when I am  in ie11 with we9.1.0 keep hearing suggestions when typing
a website. how do I turn  suggestions  off/?

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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

2015-07-27 Thread Loy via Talk

Not been able to get the upgrade, keep getting an error, maybe just so many 
trying at once.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marc Solomon via Talk" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 9:51 AM
Subject: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new 
Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. 
Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes 
innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and 
responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to 
the latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and 
productive at work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in 
Window-Eyes 9.2:

Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o   Windows 10 Start menu

o   Action Center

o   Virtual Desktops

o   Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in 
the Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.

Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that 
makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.

*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement 
their own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these 
site-specific commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads 
to a more intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.

New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables 
you to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes 
unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 
9.2.  If Internet Explorer stops responding, it would often keep 
Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, if Internet Explorer stops responding, 
Window-Eyes will continue speaking automatically without requiring the 
user to do anything.

Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, 
called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for 
Adobe Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits 
offered by the free PDF viewer.

Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance 
enhancements, including improved speech responsiveness and stability.

*For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in 
Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
Me.

Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is 
available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an 
active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when 
notified, get it at 
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade or activate the 
Check for Updates option in the Help menu.

Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  Anyone 
who has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download 
Window-Eyes for free at 
www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If you 
haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 
9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement 
(SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely 
free! It will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be 
available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD. 
You may order a CD by contacting Ai Squared.

Order your upgrade or SMA today!
You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly encouraged 
to purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  Call us today at 
(802) 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to place your order.
Non-English versions are released after the English version, so please 
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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!


Hi

You don't need to go that route to upgrade, simply visit
http://www.gwmicro.com/upgrade, enter your serial number and it'll 
generate an upgrade.  I bet a lot of people are doing this now, so 
patience is a virtue.  I tried upgrading directly from within 
window-eyes by going to the help menu, and then check for updates, and 
after a couple minutes I received an error message saying that the 
download wasn't successful and to try again in a few minutes. It's 
probably because everyone's hammering the servers to get the upgrade.  
I'll hang out for a few and try it again in a bit.




On 7/27/2015 10:57 AM, Lynn White via Talk wrote:
When I go to the online catalog after entering my serial number and 
postal code, it tells me to call regarding my copy of Window-Eyes.


On 7/27/2015 8:51 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand 
new Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 
2016. Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, 
includes innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more 
reliable and responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 
offers access to the latest tools and technologies to make you more 
effective and productive at work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements 
in Window-Eyes 9.2:

Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o   Windows 10 Start menu

o   Action Center

o   Virtual Desktops

o   Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook 
in the Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.

Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added 
that makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.


*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which 
implement their own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use 
these site-specific commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. 
This leads to a more intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.

New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which 
enables you to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are 
using becomes unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this 
feature in Window-Eyes 9.2.  If Internet Explorer stops responding, 
it would often keep Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, if Internet 
Explorer stops responding, Window-Eyes will continue speaking 
automatically without requiring the user to do anything.

Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat 
Reader, called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes 
support for Adobe Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all 
of the benefits offered by the free PDF viewer.

Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance 
enhancements, including improved speech responsiveness and stability.


*For a complete list of new features, improvements and 
changes in Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
Me.

Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new 
update is available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade 
or have an active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can 
download it when notified, get it at 
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade or activate 
the Check for Updates option in the Help menu.

Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  
Anyone who has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can 
download Window-Eyes for free at 
www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If 
you haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give 
Window-Eyes 9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement 
(SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely 
free! It will not count against your SMA. Window-Eyes 9.2 will be 
available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a 
CD.  You may order a CD by contacting Ai Squared.

Order your upgrade or SMA today!
You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly 
encouraged to purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  
Call us today at (802) 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to 
place your order.
Non-English versions are released after the English version, so 
please check with your local dealer for availability in your 
language. For those outside of the U.S., contact your local dealer.

Best Regards,
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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

2015-07-27 Thread Loy via Talk

Can I get a full copy of 9.2 download so I can install on Windows 10 latest 
preview. I can't install 9.0 on it. 


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classic shell

2015-07-27 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk

Will the classic shell work with windows 10? I would like to be able to use the 
start menu like I do in windows 7. On my  home  machine I have windows 8.1 and 
I use the classical shell
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RE: a problem web site using W E 9.1

Hi Don,
I just checked out the Shop Plans page on www.selectelwireless.com. Whoever 
created this site made little or no effort to make the content accessible. The 
first red flag was that the home page didn't have any headings. Not good. On 
the Shop Plans page, each plan has its details presented as text in an image. 
And, the images have vague and inaccurate alt text descriptions like Value Plan 
and Home Plan. So, the author will need to add more descriptive alt text to the 
plan images or redesign the page so the plan details are presented as text 
instead of images. Please reach out to this company if you haven't already done 
so to make them aware of these accessibility barriers.
Thanks,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:06 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: a problem web site using W E 9.1

I need to know whether the below problem is operator error on my part, or is 
the problem the web site design?

Specifically, please look at
www.selectelwireless.com
and try to figure out the specifics of their phone plans.  I can click on the 
various links but am not able to read any info regarding the allowed minutes 
and costs of the various plans.  This is just one of several sites I have 
encountered which exhibit this behavior, and it doesn’t matter whether I am 
using Firefox or internet explorer 11.  My results are similar if I use the 
shark.  It certainly doesn’t hurt my ego to be told that I am doing something 
wrong because I just want to learn the right way to read such a site.  

Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts
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Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

2015-07-27 Thread tchild via Talk

I downloaded mine without a hitch. The update window came up when I turned 
on my pc and only ;took a few minutes the upgrade.

-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 9:57 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 is Now Available!

When I go to the online catalog after entering my serial number and
postal code, it tells me to call regarding my copy of Window-Eyes.

On 7/27/2015 8:51 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new 
Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. 
Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes 
innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and 
responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to 
the latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and 
productive at work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in 
Window-Eyes 9.2:

Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o   Windows 10 Start menu

o   Action Center

o   Virtual Desktops

o   Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in 
the Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.

Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that 
makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.

*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement 
their own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these 
site-specific commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads 
to a more intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.

New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables 
you to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes 
unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 
9.2.  If Internet Explorer stops responding, it would often keep 
Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, if Internet Explorer stops responding, 
Window-Eyes will continue speaking automatically without requiring the 
user to do anything.

Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, 
called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for 
Adobe Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits 
offered by the free PDF viewer.

Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance 
enhancements, including improved speech responsiveness and stability.

*For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in 
Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
Me.

Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is 
available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an 
active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when 
notified, get it at 
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade or activate the 
Check for Updates option in the Help menu.

Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  Anyone 
who has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download 
Window-Eyes for free at 
www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If you 
haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 
9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement 
(SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely 
free! It will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be 
available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD. 
You may order a CD by contacting Ai Squared.

Order your upgrade or SMA today!
You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly encouraged 
to purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  Call us today at 
(802) 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to place your order.
Non-English versions are released after the English version, so please 
check with your local dealer for availability in your language. For those 
outside of the U.S., contact your local dealer.

Best Regards,
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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from the
help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my laptop
running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same error Loy
mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade installed on the day
of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as in the past.  I have
personal business to take care of later on today, and so if I don't get the
upgrade downloaded and installed before that time, that will allow more time
for a break, smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved
my copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to
go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up to
the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word, smile.  .


 

Mike M. 

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WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen


WE 9.2 still crashes when you try to work through the Windows update screen.
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Re: classic shell

There won't be any need for classic shell anymore.  From what i'm told 
the start menu is back in windows 10.




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Will the classic shell work with windows 10? I would like to be able to use the 
start menu like I do in windows 7. On my  home  machine I have windows 8.1 and 
I use the classical shell
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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Here's a follow up message.  Just before I started to type this e-mail, I
received two different messages when trying to download Window-eyes 9.2.
The first message that came up was a message telling me that an active
internet connection is required to download the upgrade.  I tried the bard
website and the page came right up.  I then once again tried to download
Window-eyes 9.2, but rather than waiting a few minutes for the error to be
generated, the error generated immediately when pressing the enter key.
This scenario occurred using Internet Explorer 11.  Yes, I have Firefox and
Google Chrome installed  And I received the second error message twice
immediately when pressing the enter key.  .  

 

Well, after I send this message, I'm gonna give the download another whirl,
smile.  

 

Mike M. 

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Is this a paid upgrade?

2015-07-27 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

I get a error message for the automatic update engine. Is this a upgrade 
that must be paid for? 


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Tips For Those Doing New Upgrades!

2015-07-27 Thread Keith Hinton via Talk

Hello everybody,
I wanted to be absolutely sure you folks are aware of this.
Several of you no doubt arre, but during upgrades like this, the
server or servers that are used get hammered so that some people can't
upgrade successfully.
Another problem can be ISP packet inspection and other similar issues
between you and the AISquared servers and other crazy Internet related
things.
So keep all of this in mind.
The Internet is great, but when servers are hammered, some do better
than others.
I hope this helps!

Regards,
Keith
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Re: Is this a paid upgrade?

I'm also getting an error message but this is due to excessive traffic.  
Everyone wants the upgrade right now.  As far as it being paid, I don't 
think so, because it shows I have one sma count remaining, and i've had 
one remaining since version 9 came out. So I think we're all just gonna 
have to wait til the excitement dies down and we can give the servers a 
bit of a break.




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I get a error message for the automatic update engine. Is this a 
upgrade that must be paid for?

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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk


Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing 
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I 
end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?


On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from the
help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my laptop
running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same error Loy
mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade installed on the day
of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as in the past.  I have
personal business to take care of later on today, and so if I don't get the
upgrade downloaded and installed before that time, that will allow more time
for a break, smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved
my copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to
go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up to
the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word, smile.  .


  


Mike M.

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Checking Maintainance Agreement

2015-07-27 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk

Where do I go to see if I have anything left in my Maintainance aggrement?



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


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Re: installing Windows 10

Don,

There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.  
Let me address each.

1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed

You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block 
the installation of any version less than 9.2.

2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system

Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself 
is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you 
with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with 
Windows-Enter.

3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10

You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before 
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the 
final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday 
so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds 
I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed 
and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10 
upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However, 
there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes 
unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens 
the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be 
working under Windows 10.

However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver 
which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not 
support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the 
driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't 
even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve 
this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes 
9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This 
will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a 
full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.

4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10

You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before 
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there 
are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you 
will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your 
Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is 
nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an 
accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the 
upgrade.

Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/

Regards,
Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
> Thanks
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Bob,

Glad to hear you are enjoying the responsiveness.  As for Edge, 
Microsoft just dropped the ball on this regarding accessibility.  No 
screen reader supports Edge at this time.  I have full confidence this 
will ultimately get resolved but until then, Internet Explorer or 
Firefox or Chrome can be used.

Rob Sinclair (Microsoft's chief accessibility officer) put out the 
following blog you may find interesting:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/archive/2015/07/03/windows-10-upgrade-considerations-for-screen-reader-and-magnifier-users.aspx

Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:59 AM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
> It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am beyond 
> impressed.  The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE, 
> Thunderbird, or Outlook 365.
> Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?
>
> Bob
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RE: Checking Maintainance Agreement

Hi, Mike.  Here are the steps I follow to check the status of the software
maintenance agreement. Open the Window-eyes control panel as usual. Press
alt-h to open the help menu.  Press up or down arrow until you come to check
for updates and press enter.  Since Window-eyes 9.2 has become available,
the page is displaying differently  I just now tried to access the page
again and had to tab to the visit update website button since I'm not
certain focus is on the button or not.When the page opens, Focus is on the
button which I verified..  After the page opens where you check for
updates, press enter on the visit update website.  Since there is a lot of
internet traffic because people are trying to download the upgrade, the page
may not load.  But if it does load, use the usual navigation keys to find
the status of your s m a if you have paid for one.  For the person who asked
if the upgrade is a paid upgrade, if you have a software maintenance
agreement, the upgrade is free.  Please refer to the readme which clearly
explains the upgrade information.  I would suggest contacting Ai Squared to
find out about the price of an upgrade is you don't have an s m a.  To be
fair, I'm going to go over the readme file again.  The check for updates
page still will not load.

Mike M. 

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Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 10:22 AM
To: Vai talk 
Subject: Checking Maintainance Agreement

Where do I go to see if I have anything left in my Maintainance aggrement?



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RE: turning off suggestions

2015-07-27 Thread via Talk

If you uncheck the use autocomplete for address bar check box first, then
several other check boxes will become unavailable in whatever check state
they are in. It's best to tab through them all and decide if one or more of
them is giving, or will give, you problems, then uncheck the use
autocomplete for address bar last before tabbing to ok and pressing Enter.

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Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:09 AM
To: richard kurlander; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: turning off suggestions

Hi,
Turn them off completely.
1.  Press alt-t for tools.
2.  Press O for options.
3.  Press control-tab three times.   You should be in the content view.
4.  Tab to the first button labeled settings and press space.
Tab through and uncheck each item you don't want to auto complete.

Chris



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Subject: turning off suggestions

when I am  in ie11 with we9.1.0 keep hearing suggestions when typing a
website. how do I turn  suggestions  off/?

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RE: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk

So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can install 
windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use narrator?

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On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Don,

There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.  
Let me address each.

1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed

You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block 
the installation of any version less than 9.2.

2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system

Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself 
is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you 
with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with 
Windows-Enter.

3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10

You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before 
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the 
final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday 
so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds 
I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed 
and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10 
upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However, 
there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes 
unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens 
the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be 
working under Windows 10.

However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver 
which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not 
support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the 
driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't 
even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve 
this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes 
9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This 
will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a 
full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.

4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10

You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before 
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there 
are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you 
will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your 
Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is 
nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an 
accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the 
upgrade.

Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/

Regards,
Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
> Thanks
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Thanks. As far as the OS is concerned, I've been running Insider
Previews since May with no real issues.

On 7/27/2015 12:44 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:

Bob,

Glad to hear you are enjoying the responsiveness. As for Edge,
Microsoft just dropped the ball on this regarding accessibility. No
screen reader supports Edge at this time. I have full confidence this
will ultimately get resolved but until then, Internet Explorer or
Firefox or Chrome can be used.

Rob Sinclair (Microsoft's chief accessibility officer) put out the
following blog you may find interesting:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/archive/2015/07/03/windows-10-upgrade-considerations-for-screen-reader-and-magnifier-users.aspx

Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:59 AM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am beyond
impressed. The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE,
Thunderbird, or Outlook 365.
Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?

Bob

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Re: installing Windows 10

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run 
Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow 
Window-Eyes to run and be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
> narrator?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
> Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
> working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
> upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Doug, if I decided to purchase the upgrade and switch from Window-eyes
Office, I will need a full CD since I am already running Windows 10. Is
there an additional CD charge on top of the $49?

On 7/27/2015 1:00 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

Thanks. As far as the OS is concerned, I've been running Insider
Previews since May with no real issues.

On 7/27/2015 12:44 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:

Bob,

Rob Sinclair (Microsoft's chief accessibility officer) put out the
following blog you may find interesting:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/archive/2015/07/03/windows-10-upgrade-considerations-for-screen-reader-and-magnifier-users.aspx

Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:59 AM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

Bob

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RE: Is this a paid upgrade?

Window-Eyes 9.2 is a paid upgrade. In the US, the upgrade price is $49. But, if 
you have an active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), the upgrade is free 
and will not use an upgrade count. For example, if you have an active SMA with 
one upgrade remaining, you can download 9.2 and you will still have one upgrade 
remaining on your SMA. If you own version 9.0 or 9.1, you can purchase an SMA 
to get version 9.2 plus two future upgrades. Also, if you have Office 2010 or 
newer installed, you can get version 9.2 at no additional cost through the 
Offer for Users of Microsoft Office (www.WindowEyesForOffice.com). Please keep 
in mind that if have a retail license and switch to the free version, you would 
forfeit the free technical support and premium voices that are included with 
your retail license. I hope this helps.
Regards,
Marc

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On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:01 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Is this a paid upgrade?

I'm also getting an error message but this is due to excessive traffic.  
Everyone wants the upgrade right now.  As far as it being paid, I don't 
think so, because it shows I have one sma count remaining, and i've had 
one remaining since version 9 came out. So I think we're all just gonna 
have to wait til the excitement dies down and we can give the servers a 
bit of a break.

On 7/27/2015 11:55 AM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> I get a error message for the automatic update engine. Is this a 
> upgrade that must be paid for?
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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Yes, the $49 price is for the downloadable upgrade. If you wanted the upgrade 
delivered on CD, there would be an extra charge.
Thanks,
Marc

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On Behalf Of bob jutzi via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:09 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Doug, if I decided to purchase the upgrade and switch from Window-eyes Office, 
I will need a full CD since I am already running Windows 10.  Is there an 
additional CD charge on top of the $49?

On 7/27/2015 1:00 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
> Thanks.  As far as the OS is concerned, I've been running Insider 
> Previews since May with no real issues.
>
> On 7/27/2015 12:44 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Glad to hear you are enjoying the responsiveness.  As for Edge, 
>> Microsoft just dropped the ball on this regarding accessibility.  No 
>> screen reader supports Edge at this time.  I have full confidence 
>> this will ultimately get resolved but until then, Internet Explorer 
>> or Firefox or Chrome can be used.
>>
>> Rob Sinclair (Microsoft's chief accessibility officer) put out the 
>> following blog you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/archive/2015/07/03/windows-10-u
>> pgrade-considerations-for-screen-reader-and-magnifier-users.aspx
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:59 AM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
>>> It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am 
>>> beyond impressed.  The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE, 
>>> Thunderbird, or Outlook 365.
>>> Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Yes, Window-Eyes 9.2 is a recommended upgrade for all of our customers even if 
you aren't using Windows 10. The upgrade includes new features and improvements 
that are not specific to Windows 10. You can read about all of the changes in 
the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read Me: 
http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Version_History/index.php?details=9.2.0.0. 
As far as how easy it is to roll back to 9.1, it would require that you 
uninstall Window-Eyes completely and then reinstall 9.1. These steps are easy 
for some to perform but more difficult for others.
Regards,
Marc 

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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:05 PM
To: Michael Massey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I end up 
prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the 
> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from 
> the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my 
> laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same 
> error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade 
> installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as 
> in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on today, 
> and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed before that 
> time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This upgrade 
> sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows 10, 
> smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the 
> information concerning the s m a count and the other various messages, 
> the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up to the 
> overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word, smile.  .
>
>
>   
>
> Mike M.
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I end
> up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>
> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>
>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
>> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from the
>> help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my laptop
>> running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same error Loy
>> mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade installed on the
>> day
>> of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as in the past.  I have
>> personal business to take care of later on today, and so if I don't get
>> the
>> upgrade downloaded and installed before that time, that will allow more
>> time
>> for a break, smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I
>> reserved
>> my copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to
>> go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other various
>> messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up
>> to
>> the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word,
>> smile.  .
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike M.
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RE: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk

Thanks when I decide to upgrade to windows 10 hopefully everything will work.

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On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run 
Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow 
Window-Eyes to run and be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
> narrator?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
> Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
> working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
> upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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Reading with trhe physical mouse is back n WE 9.2

2015-07-27 Thread Loy via Talk

Thanks GWMicro, reading with physical mouse is back  in WE 9.2. This is a big 
help for us with a little vision.

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Installing WE 9.2

2015-07-27 Thread Dave Basden via Talk

I have downloaded WE 9.2 three times now and get to the Windows 
screen that says do I want to allow the upgrade to make changes.  I 
answer yes by clicking on the yes button and nothing happens.  It is 
as if I selected no instead of yes.  Is anyone else having tis 
problem?  I am upgrading from WE 9.1 on a Windows 7 Professional 
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RE: Changing sorting criteria for messages in Outlook

2015-07-27 Thread Van Lant, Robin via Talk

Yes.  Go to the View ribbon using alt V, then tab or control tab until you hear 
Arrange by.  Alt arrow down and tab around the options.  By default Outlook 
sort by date with the most recent on top.  If you want to reverse the current 
order so that, say, oldest messages is at the top of your inbox, you'll want 
the View ribbon again and the Reverse order button is one button past the 
Arrange by button on the ribbon.  The keystrokes to get right to the buttons 
are Alt V for view ribbon and B for Arrange by or V for Reverse Order.  

You'll be making the arrange by selection for just the folder you are currently 
in.  If you want all folders to look like how you just set it, then go to the 
first option on the View ribbon, which is Change Vie.  Do an alt down arrow to 
open the menu then arrow up once to get to the last option which is to save the 
current folder view to other folders.  

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On Behalf Of Rick Blair via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 5:04 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Changing sorting criteria for messages in Outlook

Is there a simple way to change the sorting criteria for messages in Outlook?

 

In my sighted days, I would simply click on the column header to choose sorting 
by who the message was from, the date received, etc. I cannot seem to navigate 
to these headings using the mouse keys. Using the ribbon uses way too many 
keystrokes. Any help would be appreciated.

 

I use both Office 2010 and 2013 in case the steps are different between the two 
versions.

 

Thanks, Rick

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Re: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

2015-07-27 Thread via Talk

I have never had this problem with WE 9.2, or 9.1.

Don H via Talk  wrote:

> WE 9.2 still crashes when you try to work through the Windows update screen.
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RE: Word crashes when selecting single table cell with merged table cells

2015-07-27 Thread Van Lant, Robin via Talk

I've had a similar issue with tables in Outlook 2010.  I think I was trying to 
select a table from within the table using up arrow and it caused Outlook to 
crash.  No answers for you, but wanted to confirm I've had issues in Outlook, 
too, and have found my own workaround for what I was trying to accomplish.


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On Behalf Of Rick Blair via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 4:26 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: 'Window-Eyes App Discussion List'
Subject: Word crashes when selecting single table cell with merged table cells

Working in Word with tables containing merged cells causes Word to sometimes 
crash.

 

Replication steps:

 

Create a blank document and add a table, say 5 by 5.

Select cell R1C1 to R4C1 and merge the cells.

Go to cell R5C1.

Hold the shift key and hit up arrow, attempting to select multiple cells.

Word 2010 crashes without a peep, it simply disappears..

In Office 2013, I get a dialog that MS Word has stopped working when I attempt 
to select the cells.

 

With Window Eyes not running, Word does not crash.

 

I also noticed that when I added a column to the right of this table that when 
I navigated around the table using the arrow keys that WE spoke different page 
numbers as I moved around.

 

Word 2010

Window 7 Professional

HP Laptop

Zoom Text also running, version10.0.xx (latest update)

WE 9.1 latest update.

 

 

Rick

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Is Ieenhance gone?

2015-07-27 Thread Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk

Hi, I have downloaded and installed WE9.2 on win7 32bit over my 9.1 version.

Every time I reboot and start Internet explorer11, No ieenhance.exe is loaded 
and I cannot use placemarkers.

?When I tried to use appget to download and install these apps again, the 
appget app was gone also.
In the apps menu no appget.

In add/remove apps: I can still see, that ieenhance, browsemode enhance and 
appget are installed today.

Why why why and what to do.

/Regards, Marten

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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Jeremy Curry via Talk

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This product 
will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single product.

ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye 
conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText Fusion 
includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as 
well as complete and full screen reading into one, single, integrated product.

More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I 
> end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>
> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>
>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the 
>> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from 
>> the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my 
>> laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same 
>> error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade 
>> installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes 
>> as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on 
>> today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed 
>> before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This 
>> upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows 
>> 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the 
>> information concerning the s m a count and the other various 
>> messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things 
>> up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good 
>> word, smile.  .
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike M.
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RE: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk

Greetings,

In Window-Eyes, navigate to Apps -> Window-Eyes Diagnostics -> Refresh 
Accessibility Libraries. Allow the utility to run, reboot when prompted, and 
hat should correct the Windows Update issue.

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Subject: Re: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

I have never had this problem with WE 9.2, or 9.1.

Don H via Talk  wrote:

> WE 9.2 still crashes when you try to work through the Windows update screen.
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

2015-07-27 Thread Sue J Ward via Talk

 Hello. I was wondering if I were to purchase the upgrade the download, 
and the physical CD what would be the total cost since I don't have any 
SMA's?


On 7/27/2015 1:18 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Yes, the $49 price is for the downloadable upgrade. If you wanted the upgrade 
delivered on CD, there would be an extra charge.
Thanks,
Marc

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On Behalf Of bob jutzi via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

Doug, if I decided to purchase the upgrade and switch from Window-eyes Office, 
I will need a full CD since I am already running Windows 10.  Is there an 
additional CD charge on top of the $49?

On 7/27/2015 1:00 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

Thanks.  As far as the OS is concerned, I've been running Insider
Previews since May with no real issues.

On 7/27/2015 12:44 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:

Bob,

Glad to hear you are enjoying the responsiveness.  As for Edge,
Microsoft just dropped the ball on this regarding accessibility.  No
screen reader supports Edge at this time.  I have full confidence
this will ultimately get resolved but until then, Internet Explorer
or Firefox or Chrome can be used.

Rob Sinclair (Microsoft's chief accessibility officer) put out the
following blog you may find interesting:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/accessibility/archive/2015/07/03/windows-10-u
pgrade-considerations-for-screen-reader-and-magnifier-users.aspx


Doug

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It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am
beyond impressed.  The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE,
Thunderbird, or Outlook 365.
Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?

Bob

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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Sunshine via Talk

will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will 
this be a seprate program all together?


On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This product 
will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single product.

ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye 
conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText Fusion 
includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as 
well as complete and full screen reading into one, single, integrated product.

More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
wrote:


Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:


Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from
the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my
laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same
error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade
installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes
as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on
today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed
before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This
upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows
10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the
information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things
up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good
word, smile.  .



Mike M.

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PDF files

2015-07-27 Thread Terry Chaney via Talk


It's really great to be able to read pdf files again!!!
Terry chaney
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Re: WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

2015-07-27 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk

Umm, I think we've talked before and I have no problem using the WinForm 
controls all the time with WE, so I guess it depends on how much time 
your willing to put in on it. There are ways to handle the controls by 
setting their values textually, and sighted assistance is very helpful. 
However, it is tough.
That's the good news. The bad news is that WinForms and WPF apps are not 
the norm any more, it's all about creating Win apps and store apps and 
standard based Windows desktop programming is going the way like your 
reference to DOS. Have a look into universal apps in Win 10 and you'll 
see what I mean. That's the future of development. Have you looked at or 
heard about Visual Studio 2015, using XAML and trying to put together 
your own UI from scratch? Good luck.


On 7/27/2015 6:49 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi Guys: Has WindowEyes ever started looking at the standard Winforms
Controls for accessibility and their selectable Accessibility settings for
use with screen readers?
I am again considering the TabbedDocument, views, control and perhaps the
Winforms Grid control with lists or tables inside each grid column for a
display on a windows form.
In the past WindowEyes did not handle the TabbedDocument control well and I
have never even tried the grid control pretty much guessing WE would either
fail completely or be a mess to try and use.
The consideration of WindowEyes of the old, dos style, xml quote standard
windows controls is decades out of use by anyone who programs against the
windows platform and the Visual Studio quote standard controls listed in the
windows tool box for development of windows based applications is what is,
and has for many years now, been what all windows developers use. But Ihave
never heard of WindowEyes having any accessibility documentation on either
the accessibility of these controls nor what properties to set to make them
accessible to WindowEyes.
Has anyone heard about WindowEyes getting more involved with the modern
windows platforms and the related controlls used by windows developers or
are they still only considering the old dos controls the quote standard
windows controls?
Rick USA

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Re: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Lynn White via Talk


Doug,

So, during the process, how will you know when to run Narrator?

On 7/27/2015 12:05 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run
Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow
Window-Eyes to run and be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:

So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can install 
windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use narrator?

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Don,

There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
Let me address each.

1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed

You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
the installation of any version less than 9.2.

2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system

Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
Windows-Enter.

3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10

You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
working under Windows 10.

However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.

4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10

You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
upgrade.

Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/

Regards,
Doug

On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:

When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
Thanks
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Re: Is this a paid upgrade?

2015-07-27 Thread Lynn White via Talk

Yes, it will cost $49 to go from 9.1 to 9.2 unless you have a current SMS.

On 7/27/2015 11:00 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I'm also getting an error message but this is due to excessive
traffic. Everyone wants the upgrade right now. As far as it being
paid, I don't think so, because it shows I have one sma count
remaining, and i've had one remaining since version 9 came out. So I
think we're all just gonna have to wait til the excitement dies down
and we can give the servers a bit of a break.

On 7/27/2015 11:55 AM, Brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
I get a error message for the automatic update engine. Is this a
upgrade that must be paid for?

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

It will be like Dolphin Supernova. A different product.

Andy


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sunshine via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:45 AM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will
this be a seprate program all together?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> This is an excellent question.
>
> In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single
product.
>
> ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have
progressive eye conditions or are in transition from low vision to
blindness.  ZoomText Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText
Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full
screen reading into one, single, integrated product.
>
> More info coming soon. 
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Product Management
> Ai Squared, Inc.
> Phone: (802) 362-3612
> Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
> Web: www.aisquared.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available
>
> Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?
>
> Reeva
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
>> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but 
>> I end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download 
>>> the upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before,
smile, and
>>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I
am
>>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade 
>>> from the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on

>>> my laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the 
>>> same error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an 
>>> upgrade installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few 
>>> minutes as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of 
>>> later on today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and 
>>> installed before that time, that will allow more time for a break, 
>>> smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my 
>>> copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page

>>> to go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other 
>>> various messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am 
>>> chalking things up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered 
>>> sounds like a good word, smile.  .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread bryan via Talk


I wonder that to

On 7/27/2015 1:44 PM, Sunshine via Talk wrote:
will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will 
this be a seprate program all together?


On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion. This 
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a 
single product.


ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have 
progressive eye conditions or are in transition from low vision to 
blindness.  ZoomText Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText 
Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full 
screen reading into one, single, integrated product.


More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.com



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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 


wrote:


Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:


Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, 
smile, and

you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from
the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my
laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same
error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade
installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes
as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on
today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed
before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This
upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows
10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the
information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things
up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good
word, smile.  .



Mike M.

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RE: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk

While this could change, I've found that Narrator works after the second reboot.

Regards,
Steve


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Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:15 PM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Doug,

So, during the process, how will you know when to run Narrator?

On 7/27/2015 12:05 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:
> Richard,
>
> As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have
> Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run
> Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow
> Window-Eyes to run and be used.
>
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
>> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
>> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
>> narrator?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>> Let me address each.
>>
>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>
>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
>> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>
>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>
>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
>> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
>> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
>> Windows-Enter.
>>
>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
>> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
>> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
>> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
>> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
>> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
>> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
>> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
>> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
>> working under Windows 10.
>>
>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
>> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
>> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
>> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
>> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
>> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
>> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
>> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>
>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
>> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
>> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
>> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
>> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
>> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>>> Thanks
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread bryan via Talk


Why am I being charged $40 for my copy if I want to buy it?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This product 
will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single product.

ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye 
conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText Fusion 
includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as 
well as complete and full screen reading into one, single, integrated product.

More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.com



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
wrote:


Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:


Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from
the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my
laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same
error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade
installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes
as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on
today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed
before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This
upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows
10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the
information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things
up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good
word, smile.  .



Mike M.

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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Bryan,  
Can you please clarify what you are asking and provide some specifics? What are 
you being charged $40 for and by whom? What is it that you want to buy?
Thanks,
Marc

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of bryan via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:24 PM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Why am I being charged $40 for my copy if I want to buy it?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> This is an excellent question.
>
> In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This product 
> will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single product.
>
> ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye 
> conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText 
> Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText 
> Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full screen reading into one, 
> single, integrated product.
>
> More info coming soon. 
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Product Management
> Ai Squared, Inc.
> Phone: (802) 362-3612
> Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
> Web: www.aisquared.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available
>
> Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?
>
> Reeva
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
>> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but 
>> I end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download 
>>> the upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, 
>>> and
>>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade 
>>> from the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on 
>>> my laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the 
>>> same error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an 
>>> upgrade installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few 
>>> minutes as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of 
>>> later on today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and 
>>> installed before that time, that will allow more time for a break, 
>>> smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my 
>>> copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page 
>>> to go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other 
>>> various messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am 
>>> chalking things up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered 
>>> sounds like a good word, smile.  .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
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windows XP support, gone.

2015-07-27 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk

Window eyes 9.2 no longer supports XP. The read me says:
3. As of Window-Eyes 9.2, all legacy Windows XP support has ended. If you wish 
to use Window-Eyes  9.2 and you are still running XP, you must upgrade to a 
more modern operating system. 
-- 

Curtis Delzer 

On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:56:25 +
Marc Solomon via Apps  wrote:

> Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
> Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new 
> Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. 
> Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes 
> innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and 
> responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to the 
> latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and productive at 
> work, at school, and at home.
> Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in 
> Window-Eyes 9.2:
> Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support
> 
> *Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:
> 
> o   Windows 10 Start menu
> 
> o   Action Center
> 
> o   Virtual Desktops
> 
> o   Quick Access view in File Explorer
> 
> *Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in the 
> Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.
> Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications
> 
> *New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that 
> makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.
> 
> *On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement their 
> own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these site-specific 
> commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads to a more 
> intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.
> New Addition to Auto Recovery
> 
> *Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables you 
> to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes 
> unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 9.2.  
> If Internet Explorer stops responding, it would often keep Window-Eyes from 
> speaking.  Now, if Internet Explorer stops responding, Window-Eyes will 
> continue speaking automatically without requiring the user to do anything.
> Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC
> 
> *Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, 
> called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for Adobe 
> Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits offered by 
> the free PDF viewer.
> Bug Fixes
> 
> *Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance enhancements, 
> including improved speech responsiveness and stability.
> 
> *For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in 
> Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
> Me.<http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Version_History/index.php?details=9.2.0.0>
> Download your upgrade
> Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is 
> available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an active 
> Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when notified, get 
> it at www.gwmicro.com/upgrade<http://www.gwmicro.com/upgrade> or activate the 
> Check for Updates option in the Help menu.
> Try Window-Eyes
> If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  Anyone who 
> has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download 
> Window-Eyes for free at 
> www.windoweyesforoffice.com<http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com>. If you 
> haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 9.2 
> a try!
> Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)!
> If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely free! 
> It will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be available for 
> you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD.  You may order a CD 
> by contacting Ai Squared.
> Order your upgrade or SMA today!
> You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly encouraged to 
> purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  Call us today at (802) 
> 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to place your order.
> Non-English versions are released after the English version, so please check 
> with your local dealer for availability in your language. For those outside 
> of the U.S., contact your local dealer.
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Hi Nick:
You will still benefit from upgrading, according to the Readme and
according to what one of the Aisquared staff, I forgot who, said a few
days ago on this list.

As to how much you will benefit, I cannot say for sure.  You'll have
to judge for yourself.
Kevin Huber

On 7/27/15, Nick Sarames via Talk  wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
> end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>
> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
>> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from the
>> help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my laptop
>> running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same error Loy
>> mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade installed on the
>> day
>> of its release, but I'll try every few minutes as in the past.  I have
>> personal business to take care of later on today, and so if I don't get
>> the
>> upgrade downloaded and installed before that time, that will allow more
>> time
>> for a break, smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I
>> reserved
>> my copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page
>> to
>> go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other various
>> messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things up
>> to
>> the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good word, smile.
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike M.
>>
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RE: installing Windows 10

Hi,
Start the process, after it reboots, walk away.  Go have some coffee or a 
drink.  Come back after 20 to 30 minutes and try windows-enter.
If Windows 10 is ready narrator will come up.

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:15 PM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Doug,

So, during the process, how will you know when to run Narrator?

On 7/27/2015 12:05 PM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:
> Richard,
>
> As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
> Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run 
> Narrator.  But all other places the upgrade process will allow 
> Window-Eyes to run and be used.
>
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
>> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can 
>> install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
>> narrator?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>> Let me address each.
>>
>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>
>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
>> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>
>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>
>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
>> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator 
>> to help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can 
>> be launched with Windows-Enter.
>>
>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
>> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out 
>> on Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
>> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
>> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
>> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
>> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
>> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
>> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
>> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>>
>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror 
>> driver which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does 
>> not support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes 
>> without the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most 
>> cases you don't even need an off screen model but it is still 
>> important to resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to 
>> simply run your Window-Eyes
>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  
>> This will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to 
>> have a full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>
>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
>> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
>> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
>> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 
>> 9.2.  There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 
>> 10 both use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is 
>> good after the upgrade.
>>
>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepar
>> ing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without 
>>> sighted help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>>> Thanks
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Samuel Wilkins via Talk

I think it is going to be similar to Dolphin Computer Access's product 
Supernova, which combines their screen reader, Hal, and their magnifier, 
Luna.  Maybe it would be good for the RNIB to know about this, as they 
are selling computers which have Jaws pre-installed with no magnifier.


On 27/07/2015 20:17, bryan via Talk wrote:

I wonder that to

On 7/27/2015 1:44 PM, Sunshine via Talk wrote:
will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will 
this be a seprate program all together?


On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion. This 
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a 
single product.


ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have 
progressive eye conditions or are in transition from low vision to 
blindness.  ZoomText Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText 
Magnifier, ZoomText Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full 
screen reading into one, single, integrated product.


More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
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-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 


wrote:


Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:


Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, 
smile, and

you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from
the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my
laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same
error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade
installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes
as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on
today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed
before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This
upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows
10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the
information concerning the s m a count and the other various
messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things
up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good
word, smile.  .



Mike M.

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Re: installing Windows 10

Hi Doug:

Thanks for pointing out the problem with the mirror drivers in Windows 7.
Now suppose I have Windows 7 and want to stay with it, but I have
downloaded Windows 9.2.
How will the lack of a mirror driver affect me?  Will there be any
applications which will become unusable for me?
Kevin Huber


On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
> Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
> working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
> upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

2015-07-27 Thread stephen thacker via Talk

Hi, I'm using a quod core pc with windows 8.1 and we9.1. When my 
pc boots up, there is a screen notifying me of the update to 
WE9.2 - there is a button to tap if you want to ignore the 
upgrade and a button to close but I can't find the download 
button which may or may not be there and could be hidden. What 
keys do I mress to get the download to function as going into 
control backslash and looking for updates or using ie doesn't 
seem to work, although I know ie is working as another separate 
download was successful. I would really like to get this download 
done please so any help is gratefully received, Steve

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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Jeremy Curry via Talk

ZoomText Fusion is a separate product from Window-Eyes. 

-Original Message-
From: Sunshine [mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net] 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:45 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will this be a 
seprate program all together?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> This is an excellent question.
>
> In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This product 
> will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single product.
>
> ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye 
> conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText 
> Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText 
> Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full screen reading into one, 
> single, integrated product.
>
> More info coming soon. 
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Product Management
> Ai Squared, Inc.
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> Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available
>
> Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?
>
> Reeva
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
>> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but 
>> I end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download 
>>> the upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, 
>>> and
>>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade 
>>> from the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on 
>>> my laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the 
>>> same error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an 
>>> upgrade installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few 
>>> minutes as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of 
>>> later on today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and 
>>> installed before that time, that will allow more time for a break, 
>>> smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my 
>>> copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page 
>>> to go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other 
>>> various messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am 
>>> chalking things up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered 
>>> sounds like a good word, smile.  .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike M.
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Re: installing Windows 10

Kevin,

Oh, there is no problem at all if you just stay with Windows 7.  The 
upgrade always contains the mirror driver when being installed under 
Windows Vista and Windows 7 and the accessibility driver when being 
installed under Windows 8.x and Windows 10.  It just figures out your 
environment and installs the correct one.  The issue is only when you 
upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 because the driver itself never got 
switched from mirror to accessibility.  But since all Window-Eyes 
upgrade installers have everything, this is why I suggested just running 
it after going to 10 as it will realize you are in 10 and install the 
accessibility driver.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 4:02 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
> Hi Doug:
>
> Thanks for pointing out the problem with the mirror drivers in Windows 7.
> Now suppose I have Windows 7 and want to stay with it, but I have
> downloaded Windows 9.2.
> How will the lack of a mirror driver affect me?  Will there be any
> applications which will become unusable for me?
> Kevin Huber
>
>
> On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
>> Don,
>>
>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>> Let me address each.
>>
>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>
>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
>> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>
>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>
>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
>> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
>> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
>> Windows-Enter.
>>
>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
>> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
>> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
>> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
>> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
>> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
>> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
>> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
>> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
>> working under Windows 10.
>>
>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
>> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
>> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
>> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
>> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
>> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
>> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
>> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>
>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
>> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
>> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
>> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
>> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
>> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
>>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>>> Thanks
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>>

Re: installing Windows 10

Thanks Doug:
That's a great relief.
Kevin Huber

On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Oh, there is no problem at all if you just stay with Windows 7.  The
> upgrade always contains the mirror driver when being installed under
> Windows Vista and Windows 7 and the accessibility driver when being
> installed under Windows 8.x and Windows 10.  It just figures out your
> environment and installs the correct one.  The issue is only when you
> upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 because the driver itself never got
> switched from mirror to accessibility.  But since all Window-Eyes
> upgrade installers have everything, this is why I suggested just running
> it after going to 10 as it will realize you are in 10 and install the
> accessibility driver.
>
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 4:02 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
>> Hi Doug:
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out the problem with the mirror drivers in Windows 7.
>> Now suppose I have Windows 7 and want to stay with it, but I have
>> downloaded Windows 9.2.
>> How will the lack of a mirror driver affect me?  Will there be any
>> applications which will become unusable for me?
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>
>> On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
>>> Don,
>>>
>>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>>> Let me address each.
>>>
>>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>>
>>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will block
>>> the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>>
>>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>>
>>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this
>>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 itself
>>> is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to help you
>>> with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be launched with
>>> Windows-Enter.
>>>
>>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>>
>>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system before
>>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not seen the
>>> final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on Wednesday
>>> so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the internal builds
>>> I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had Windows 9.2 installed
>>> and running on my Windows 7 system when I started the Windows 10
>>> upgrade.  Everything was working well and speaking perfectly.  However,
>>> there are eventually two back to back screens which have Window-Eyes
>>> unloaded and require you to launch Narrator.  After those two screens
>>> the upgrade will continue and Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be
>>> working under Windows 10.
>>>
>>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes
>>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver
>>> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not
>>> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without the
>>> driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you don't
>>> even need an off screen model but it is still important to resolve
>>> this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your Window-Eyes
>>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been
>>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This
>>> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a
>>> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>>
>>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>>
>>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system before
>>> the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like Windows 7 there
>>> are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes running so you
>>> will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come up and your
>>> Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  There is
>>> nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both use an
>>> accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good after the
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to
>>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-preparing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
 When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted
 help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
 Thanks
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Classic shell and Windows 10

Came across this article and thought it may be of interest:

http://www.howtogeek.com/223728/bring-the-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10-with-classic-shell/


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RE: TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

2015-07-27 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk

Hello Steven. The download button is actually a link. To go to the download,
do the following.
1. press control backslash to enter the Window-Eyes control panel.
2. press alt H to open the help menu.
3. press c to open the check for updates menu. 

4. When the dialog appears, press tab once. This should put you on the
download Window-Eyes 9.2.2 option. I hope this helps. Sky.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of stephen thacker via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:08 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

Hi, I'm using a quod core pc with windows 8.1 and we9.1. When my pc boots
up, there is a screen notifying me of the update to
WE9.2 - there is a button to tap if you want to ignore the upgrade and a
button to close but I can't find the download button which may or may not be
there and could be hidden. What keys do I mress to get the download to
function as going into control backslash and looking for updates or using ie
doesn't seem to work, although I know ie is working as another separate
download was successful. I would really like to get this download done
please so any help is gratefully received, Steve
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RE: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread John Chilelli via Talk

Hi Doug,

Is there a hot key to use to launch Narator?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jac=neo.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run Narrator.
But all other places the upgrade process will allow Window-Eyes to run and
be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can
install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use
narrator?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to 
> help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be 
> launched with Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on 
> Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver 
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not 
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without 
> the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you 
> don't even need an off screen model but it is still important to 
> resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your 
> Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This 
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a 
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  
> There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both 
> use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good 
> after the upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepari
> ng-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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RE: TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

Small correction.
It will say download Window-eyes 9.2.0.0

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:39 PM
To: 'stephen thacker' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List' 
Subject: RE: TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

Hello Steven. The download button is actually a link. To go to the download, do 
the following.
1. press control backslash to enter the Window-Eyes control panel.
2. press alt H to open the help menu.
3. press c to open the check for updates menu. 

4. When the dialog appears, press tab once. This should put you on the download 
Window-Eyes 9.2.2 option. I hope this helps. Sky.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of stephen thacker via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:08 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: TROUBKE DOWNLOADING WE9.2

Hi, I'm using a quod core pc with windows 8.1 and we9.1. When my pc boots up, 
there is a screen notifying me of the update to
WE9.2 - there is a button to tap if you want to ignore the upgrade and a button 
to close but I can't find the download button which may or may not be there and 
could be hidden. What keys do I mress to get the download to function as going 
into control backslash and looking for updates or using ie doesn't seem to 
work, although I know ie is working as another separate download was 
successful. I would really like to get this download done please so any help is 
gratefully received, Steve ___
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RE: installing Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Clower via Talk

John,

Windows-Enter will enable or disable Narrator.

HTH,
Steve




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of John Chilelli via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Doug Geoffray ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: installing Windows 10

Hi Doug,

Is there a hot key to use to launch Narator?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jac=neo.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run Narrator.
But all other places the upgrade process will allow Window-Eyes to run and
be used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I can
install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use
narrator?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to 
> help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be 
> launched with Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on 
> Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver 
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not 
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without 
> the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you 
> don't even need an off screen model but it is still important to 
> resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your 
> Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This 
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a 
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.  
> There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both 
> use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good 
> after the upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepari
> ng-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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RE: installing Windows 10

Windows-enter will turn it on and Windows-enter will turn it off.

Also if you have a tablet it is Windows-volume up.

Chris


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of John Chilelli via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Doug Geoffray ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: installing Windows 10

Hi Doug,

Is there a hot key to use to launch Narator?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jac=neo.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Richard,

As mentioned, there are a couple screens that come up that do not have 
Window-Eyes running.  These couple screens will require you to run Narrator.
But all other places the upgrade process will allow Window-Eyes to run and be 
used.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 12:57 PM, Kurlander Richard (75) wrote:
> So if I understand right when I put 9.2 on my windows 8.1 machine I 
> can
install windows 10 using windoweyes and it will talk or do I have to use 
narrator?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Re: installing Windows 10
>
> Don,
>
> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
> Let me address each.
>
> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>
> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>
> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>
> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator to 
> help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can be 
> launched with Windows-Enter.
>
> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out on 
> Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>
> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror driver 
> which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does not 
> support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes without 
> the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most cases you 
> don't even need an off screen model but it is still important to 
> resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to simply run your 
> Window-Eyes
> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  This 
> will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to have a 
> full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>
> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>
> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 9.2.
> There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 10 both 
> use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is good 
> after the upgrade.
>
> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>
> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepari
> ng-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>
> Regards,
> Doug
>
> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without sighted 
>> help?  Will WE 9.2 have to be reinstalled after installing Win 10?
>> Thanks
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>>

Re: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

2015-07-27 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk


Don,

I have not had an update problem.  Maybe three years ago, Microsoft sent 
out an update that made Windows update crash for a few days, but that 
was a long time ago.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 7/27/2015 11:36 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
WE 9.2 still crashes when you try to work through the Windows update 
screen.

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RE: [EXTERNAL] windows XP support, gone.

2015-07-27 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Glad to hear it?

Andy


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:47 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Window-Eyes App Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] windows XP support, gone.

Window eyes 9.2 no longer supports XP. The read me says:
3. As of Window-Eyes 9.2, all legacy Windows XP support has ended. If
you wish to use Window-Eyes  9.2 and you are still running XP, you must
upgrade to a more modern operating system. 
-- 

Curtis Delzer 

On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:56:25 +
Marc Solomon via Apps  wrote:

> Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2 Window-Eyes 9.2 is 
> now available providing full support for the brand new Windows 10
operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. Window-Eyes
9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes innovative
new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and responsive
screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to the latest
tools and technologies to make you more effective and productive at
work, at school, and at home.
> Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements
in Window-Eyes 9.2:
> Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support
> 
> *Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:
> 
> o   Windows 10 Start menu
> 
> o   Action Center
> 
> o   Virtual Desktops
> 
> o   Quick Access view in File Explorer
> 
> *Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook
in the Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.
> Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications
> 
> *New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added
that makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.
> 
> *On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which
implement their own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use
these site-specific commands without having to turn Browse Mode off.
This leads to a more intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.
> New Addition to Auto Recovery
> 
> *Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which
enables you to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using
becomes unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this feature in
Window-Eyes 9.2.  If Internet Explorer stops responding, it would often
keep Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, if Internet Explorer stops
responding, Window-Eyes will continue speaking automatically without
requiring the user to do anything.
> Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC
> 
> *Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat
Reader, called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes
support for Adobe Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all of
the benefits offered by the free PDF viewer.
> Bug Fixes
> 
> *Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance
enhancements, including improved speech responsiveness and stability.
> 
> *For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes
in Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read
Me.<http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Version_History/index.php?details
=9.2.0.0>
> Download your upgrade
> Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update
is available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have
an active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when
notified, get it at
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade<http://www.gwmicro.com/upgrade> or activate the
Check for Updates option in the Help menu.
> Try Window-Eyes
> If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!
Anyone who has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can
download Window-Eyes for free at
www.windoweyesforoffice.com<http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com>. If you
haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give
Window-Eyes 9.2 a try!
> Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement
(SMA)!
> If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely
free! It will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be
available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD.
You may order a CD by contacting Ai Squared.
> Order your upgrade or SMA today!
> You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly
encouraged to purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  Call
us today at (802) 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to place
your order.
> Non-English versions are released after the English version, so please
check with your local dealer for availability in your language. For
those outside of the U.S., contact your local dealer.
> Best Regards,
> The Ai Squared Team
> -- next part ---

problem with WE 9.2 returning from sleep mode

Running WE 9.2 on my Windows 8.1 64 bit I7 HP laptop.  I have it set to 
go into sleep mode when I close the lid.
Now when I open the lid WE says part of a word then the screen goes 
black and the laptop is locked up with the only way to restart is a hard 
boot.  Out of 5 tries of closing the lid WE crashes the computer  4 
times.  Had no such issues prior to installing WE 9.2.

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Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Well, Window-eyes 9.2 is now running on my Dell Xps-8500 desktop pc running
Windows 8.1 and on my Dell Xps-l501 laptop running Windows 7.  Patience and
time has indeed paid off.  Keep up the great work Ai Squared!  Now let's all
enjoy the next step upgrading to Windows 10 or getting a new computer with
Windows 10.  

 

Mike M. 

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Re: problem with WE 9.2 returning from sleep mode

More info concerning this problem, if I first close WE then close the 
lid the laptop returns from sleep mode just fine.  Left WE running and 
problem returns.


On 7/27/2015 4:10 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:

Running WE 9.2 on my Windows 8.1 64 bit I7 HP laptop.  I have it set to
go into sleep mode when I close the lid.
Now when I open the lid WE says part of a word then the screen goes
black and the laptop is locked up with the only way to restart is a hard
boot.  Out of 5 tries of closing the lid WE crashes the computer  4
times.  Had no such issues prior to installing WE 9.2.
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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

I want to know how easy will it be ot install the upgrade of windows 10 when
its availableot us on Wednesday once we have window eyes 9.2 installed. Will
it required sighted assistance ot install or can we get by on our own. These
are my concerns about the upgrade as I did not have hta great success when I
did the Windows 8.1 update and ths what has me concerned about this one as
well.  

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of bob jutzi via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:00 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Window-eyes 9.2 under Windows 10 Insider Preview

It's been a while since I've used Window-eyes and so far, I am beyond
impressed.  The responsiveness is snappy whether using IE, Thunderbird, or
Outlook 365.
Any idea as to why Edge wasn't accessible from the getgo?

Bob

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numpad mouse keys still not working in Firefox

2015-07-27 Thread john riehl via Talk

I was disappointed that the numpad mouse keys still do not work in Firefox
in Windoweyes 9.2. WindowEyes staff, what's the reason this issue wasn't
able to be fixed?

Thanks. 

 

 

John riehl

 

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RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

What will this cost. Also will there  be an free office version of this  to
install as well.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:31 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single
product.

ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive eye
conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText
Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText
Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full screen reading into one,
single, integrated product.

More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com 
Web: www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk 
wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I 
> end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>
> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>
>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the 
>> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile, and
>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from 
>> the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my 
>> laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same 
>> error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade 
>> installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes 
>> as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on 
>> today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed 
>> before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This 
>> upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows 
>> 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the 
>> information concerning the s m a count and the other various 
>> messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things 
>> up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good 
>> word, smile.  .
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike M.
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RE: installing Windows 10

Thanks doug for assuring all of us that window eyes will work for all of us
whether we have the office version or the actual version of window eyes when
we do the windows 10 upgrade . I appreciate having the company owners on the
list assuring us that everything will be fine after an upgrae. That's the
best about AI squared and gw micro. I cant say the same about the others.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:23 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: installing Windows 10

Kevin,

Oh, there is no problem at all if you just stay with Windows 7.  The upgrade
always contains the mirror driver when being installed under Windows Vista
and Windows 7 and the accessibility driver when being installed under
Windows 8.x and Windows 10.  It just figures out your environment and
installs the correct one.  The issue is only when you upgrade from Windows 7
to 10 because the driver itself never got switched from mirror to
accessibility.  But since all Window-Eyes upgrade installers have
everything, this is why I suggested just running it after going to 10 as it
will realize you are in 10 and install the accessibility driver.

Doug

On 7/27/2015 4:02 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
> Hi Doug:
>
> Thanks for pointing out the problem with the mirror drivers in Windows 7.
> Now suppose I have Windows 7 and want to stay with it, but I have 
> downloaded Windows 9.2.
> How will the lack of a mirror driver affect me?  Will there be any 
> applications which will become unusable for me?
> Kevin Huber
>
>
> On 7/27/15, Doug Geoffray via Talk  wrote:
>> Don,
>>
>> There are four scenarios when it comes to Windows 10 and Window-Eyes.
>> Let me address each.
>>
>> 1) You get a new computer and it already has Windows 10 installed
>>
>> You must have the full Window-Eyes 9.2 installer.  Windows 10 will 
>> block the installation of any version less than 9.2.
>>
>> 2) You manually install Windows 10 on a system
>>
>> Windows 10 is no different than any other operating system at this 
>> point.  Window-Eyes itself can not be installed until Windows 10 
>> itself is fully installed so you would need to use Windows Narrator 
>> to help you with the Windows 10 installation.  Windows Narrator can 
>> be launched with Windows-Enter.
>>
>> 3) You are upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-Eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 7 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  I have not 
>> seen the final Windows 10 upgrade which will start being pushed out 
>> on Wednesday so I can't say specifically what will happen but on the 
>> internal builds I've been testing I've seen the following.  I had 
>> Windows 9.2 installed and running on my Windows 7 system when I 
>> started the Windows 10 upgrade.  Everything was working well and 
>> speaking perfectly.  However, there are eventually two back to back 
>> screens which have Window-Eyes unloaded and require you to launch 
>> Narrator.  After those two screens the upgrade will continue and 
>> Window-Eyes will eventually launch and be working under Windows 10.
>>
>> However, under Windows 7 only there is a problem with the Window-Eyes 
>> accessibility driver.  The issue is Windows 7 requires a mirror 
>> driver which Window-Eyes has.  But after the upgrade, Windows 10 does 
>> not support mirror drivers so it blocks them leaving Window-Eyes 
>> without the driver causing there to be no off screen model.  In most 
>> cases you don't even need an off screen model but it is still 
>> important to resolve this.  The easiest way to resolve this is to 
>> simply run your Window-Eyes
>> 9.2 upgrade on itself under Windows 10.  So after Window 10 has been 
>> installed just download your Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade and run it.  
>> This will install the necessary accessibility driver causing you to 
>> have a full 9.2 working copy under Windows 10.
>>
>> 4) You are upgrading from Windows 8.x to Windows 10
>>
>> You must have Window-eyes 9.2 installed on your Windows 8 system 
>> before the Windows 10 upgrade will allow you to continue.  Like 
>> Windows 7 there are a couple screens that come up without Window-Eyes 
>> running so you will need Narrator.  After that Window-Eyes will come 
>> up and your Windows 10 will be running perfectly with Window-Eyes 
>> 9.2.  There is nothing extra you need to do.  Windows 8 and Windows 
>> 10 both use an accessibility driver, not a mirror driver, so life is 
>> good after the upgrade.
>>
>> Regarding how Microsoft is going to upgrading a billion devices to 
>> Windows 10, there is an interesting blog post you may find interesting:
>>
>> http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/02/windows-10-prepar
>> ing-to-upgrade-one-billion-devices/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Doug
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 10:44 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>>> When Windows 10 becomes available can it be installed without

RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk

What I would like to know is, if AISquared is coming out with a combination
zoomtext/window-eyes product, will the window-eyes for office still be
around?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of bryan via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 12:24 PM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Why am I being charged $40 for my copy if I want to buy it?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> This is an excellent question.
>
> In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single
product.
>
> ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive
eye conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness.  ZoomText
Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText
Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full screen reading into one,
single, integrated product.
>
> More info coming soon. 
>
> All the Best,
>
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Curry
> Director of Product Management
> Ai Squared, Inc.
> Phone: (802) 362-3612
> Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
> Web: www.aisquared.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available
>
> Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?
>
> Reeva
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk

> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
>> Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but I
>> end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?
>>
>> On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download the
>>> upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, smile,
and
>>> you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
>>> certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade from
>>> the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on my
>>> laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the same
>>> error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an upgrade
>>> installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few minutes
>>> as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of later on
>>> today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and installed
>>> before that time, that will allow more time for a break, smile.  This
>>> upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my copy of Windows
>>> 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page to go over the
>>> information concerning the s m a count and the other various
>>> messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am chalking things
>>> up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered sounds like a good
>>> word, smile.  .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
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Re: windows XP support, gone.

2015-07-27 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

I thought they stopped supporting XP when microsoft did.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:47 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Window-Eyes App Discussion List
Subject: windows XP support, gone.

Window eyes 9.2 no longer supports XP. The read me says:
3. As of Window-Eyes 9.2, all legacy Windows XP support has ended. If you 
wish to use Window-Eyes  9.2 and you are still running XP, you must upgrade 
to a more modern operating system.

--

Curtis Delzer 

On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:56:25 +
Marc Solomon via Apps  wrote:

Access the Latest Technology with Window-Eyes 9.2
Window-Eyes 9.2 is now available providing full support for the brand new 
Windows 10 operating system, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, and Office 2016. 
Window-Eyes 9.2 makes it possible to use the latest technology, includes 
innovative new ways to access the web, and provides a more reliable and 
responsive screen reading experience.  Window-Eyes 9.2 offers access to 
the latest tools and technologies to make you more effective and 
productive at work, at school, and at home.
Keep reading to learn about all of the new features and enhancements in 
Window-Eyes 9.2:

Windows 10 and Office 2016 Support

*Comprehensive support for Windows 10 includes:

o   Windows 10 Start menu

o   Action Center

o   Virtual Desktops

o   Quick Access view in File Explorer

*Preliminary Support for Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook in 
the Microsoft Office 2016 Preview.

Innovative Access to Facebook and other Popular Web Applications

*New functionality called Web Application Mode has been added that 
makes interacting with dynamic web applications even easier.

*On web sites, such as Facebook and Google Docs which implement 
their own hot keys, Web Application Mode enables you to use these 
site-specific commands without having to turn Browse Mode off. This leads 
to a more intuitive and efficient web browsing experience.

New Addition to Auto Recovery

*Window-Eyes 9.0 introduced the Auto-Recovery tool which enables 
you to restart Window-Eyes if another application you are using becomes 
unresponsive.  We have continued to improve this feature in Window-Eyes 
9.2.  If Internet Explorer stops responding, it would often keep 
Window-Eyes from speaking.  Now, if Internet Explorer stops responding, 
Window-Eyes will continue speaking automatically without requiring the 
user to do anything.

Support for Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

*Adobe recently released a new version of Adobe Acrobat Reader, 
called Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.  Window-Eyes 9.2 includes support for 
Adobe Reader DC, enabling users to take advantage of all of the benefits 
offered by the free PDF viewer.

Bug Fixes

*Window-Eyes 9.2 has numerous bug fixes and performance 
enhancements, including improved speech responsiveness and stability.

*For a complete list of new features, improvements and changes in 
Window-Eyes 9.2, please refer to the Window-Eyes 9.2 Read 
Me.<http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Version_History/index.php?details=9.2.0.0>

Download your upgrade
Window-Eyes customers will be notified automatically that a new update is 
available.  If you have purchased a Window-Eyes 9.2 upgrade or have an 
active Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA), you can download it when 
notified, get it at 
www.gwmicro.com/upgrade<http://www.gwmicro.com/upgrade> or activate the 
Check for Updates option in the Help menu.

Try Window-Eyes
If you don't currently own Window-Eyes, you can get it for free!  Anyone 
who has a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher can download 
Window-Eyes for free at 
www.windoweyesforoffice.com<http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com>. If you 
haven't tried Window-Eyes in a while, now is the time to give Window-Eyes 
9.2 a try!
Window-Eyes 9.2 is free if you have a Software Maintenance Agreement 
(SMA)!
If you invested in a SMA, you will receive Window-Eyes 9.2 absolutely 
free! It will not count against your SMA.  Window-Eyes 9.2 will be 
available for you to download, but SMA customers will not receive a CD. 
You may order a CD by contacting Ai Squared.

Order your upgrade or SMA today!
You can now purchase your upgrade or SMA. Customers are highly encouraged 
to purchase a SMA to receive the 9.2 update for free.  Call us today at 
(802) 362-3612 or email us at sa...@aisquared.com to place your order.
Non-English versions are released after the English version, so please 
check with your local dealer for availability in your language. For those 
outside of the U.S., contact your local dealer.

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Re: windows XP support, gone.

2015-07-27 Thread Isaac via Talk

ards,
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Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

2015-07-27 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Okay, good.  I'm glad you will have both, so we who don't need any zoom 
anything won't have to have it.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

ZoomText Fusion is a separate product from Window-Eyes.

-Original Message-
From: Sunshine [mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net]
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:45 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

will zoomtext fusion replace the regular window eyes product? or will this 
be a seprate program all together?

On 7/27/2015 1:31 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hi Reeva,

This is an excellent question.

In 2015, we will be releasing a product called ZoomText Fusion.  This 
product will combine the power of ZoomText and Window-Eyes in a single 
product.

ZoomText Fusion is specifically designed for people who have progressive 
eye conditions or are in transition from low vision to blindness. 
ZoomText Fusion includes all of the power of ZoomText Magnifier, ZoomText 
Magnifier/Reader, as well as complete and full screen reading into one, 
single, integrated product.

More info coming soon. 

All the Best,

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:21 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.2 is now available

Any improvements on how we works with zoomtext yet?

Reeva

On Monday, July 27, 2015, Nick Sarames via Talk

wrote:

Hi:

Is it recommended that I upgrade if I am not planning on installing
Windows-10 (at least not in the near future)?  And if I upgrade, but
I end up prefering 9.1, will it be easy to reinstall 9.1?

On 7/27/2015 11:35 AM, Michael Massey via Talk wrote:

Hi.  Those who are receiving an error when attempting to download
the upgrade of Window-eyes 9.2 have encountered this error before, 
smile, and

you are not alone, believe me!This isn't my first rodeo, and I am
certain I can speak for others.  I tried downloading the upgrade
from the help menu on my desktop computer running Windows 8.1 and on
my laptop running Windows 7 64 bit home premium edition with the
same error Loy mentioned.  I usually have been able to get an
upgrade installed on the day of its release, but I'll try every few
minutes as in the past.  I have personal business to take care of
later on today, and so if I don't get the upgrade downloaded and
installed before that time, that will allow more time for a break,
smile.  This upgrade sounds very promising, and yes, I reserved my
copy of Windows 10, smile. Also, when I try to check the update page
to go over the information concerning the s m a count and the other
various messages, the page will not load.  I, like others, am
chalking things up to the overwhelmed servers.  Chris, hammered
sounds like a good word, smile.  .

Mike M.

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RE: Classic shell and Windows 10

2015-07-27 Thread Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk

Hi,
I am using this program on windows 8.1 and love it. Glad to know that it
will work on windows 10.  I am installing this as soon as it become
available for my pc.  Thanks for the information.  


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 1:40 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Classic shell and Windows 10

Came across this article and thought it may be of interest:

http://www.howtogeek.com/223728/bring-the-windows-7-start-menu-to-windows-10
-with-classic-shell/


Chris


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RE: WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

2015-07-27 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi: I have not downloaded VS 2015 yet.
I am building a large, complex project using Visual Studio Community Edition
2013 and will install VS 2015 after some time to let all the buggs get
rolled out of it if any.
The usual types of interfaces most financial analysts use is an excel style
layout which is controlled usually by tabbed views to display the diferent
content.
This project is not for phones or apps but a true desktop project for
standard or large displays.
How did you find out that the usual WinForms controls were no longer
supported in VS 2015 in favor of the xaml controls?
I hadent heard they were being deprecated from any of the programmers using
VS 2015 but I never thought to ask them that specifically.
As for making the Winforms controls more accessible I want:
A Master Detail layout with a Listbox at the top:
A couple or 3 controls under it that get dynamically loaded from a DataBase
and from the data held in the DataTable bound to the listbox with many
sortable columns.
I am thinking that the groups of controls perhaps 3 textboxes or some type
of grid and a couple of textboxes will be in each view and each view will
have its own MenuBar with various selections including sorts that will sort
the MasterListbox based on the columns related to that particular view.
If I use a grid control inside the view as one of the controls it would have
perhaps 7 columns and about 30 rows along with each column having a heading
and each row having a heading and then the 2 textboxes holding notes and
related metrix for each ticker as it is arrowed over in the master listbox.
I tried WindowEyes with a TabbedDocument some time ago and opted for using a
text box with lines of details in it as it read very well with WindowEyes
but now that I am thinking that this puppy may some day get published I am
considering a more modern layout as described above.
I will likely go ahead with the design using a tabbed document initially and
perhaps you can help me set it up to be accessible with WindowEyes so
navigation works smoothly through the list, the view with its MenuBar and
dropdown MenuItems and the 
Grid with its columns and rows and the tab list of available views.
My problem before was that tabbing around or arrowing I had trouble getting
into the tab list once in the view content with the textboxes and, in this
case the Grid which get dynamically updated. Perhaps a hot key to jump to
the tab list from inside the view content and some way to read that I am in
the tab list would work but I am not sure how to setup a hot key to jump
focus to the tab list - but I havent looked at it in a long time now.
How have you handle navigation of TabbedDocuments in your projects?
Rick USA

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RE: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

2015-07-27 Thread stephen thacker via Talk

stikl can't get update to download. I have one sma and also have 
office 365.


Cheers, Steve

- Original Message -
From: Steve Clower via Talk To: "cov...@ccs.covici.com" , "Window-Eyes 
DiscussionList" , Don H 

Date sent: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 18:27:14 +
Subject: RE: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

Greetings,

In Window-Eyes, navigate to Apps -> Window-Eyes Diagnostics -> 
Refresh Accessibility Libraries. Allow the utility to run, reboot 
when prompted, and hat should correct the Windows Update issue.




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On Behalf Of via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:20 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen

I have never had this problem with WE 9.2, or 9.1.

Don H via Talk  wrote:

WE 9.2 still crashes when you try to work through the Windows 
update screen.

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RE: WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

So let usknow when you do.  

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:55 PM
To: 'Stephen Clark' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: WindowEyes and Common Winforms Controls

Hi: I have not downloaded VS 2015 yet.
I am building a large, complex project using Visual Studio Community Edition
2013 and will install VS 2015 after some time to let all the buggs get
rolled out of it if any.
The usual types of interfaces most financial analysts use is an excel style
layout which is controlled usually by tabbed views to display the diferent
content.
This project is not for phones or apps but a true desktop project for
standard or large displays.
How did you find out that the usual WinForms controls were no longer
supported in VS 2015 in favor of the xaml controls?
I hadent heard they were being deprecated from any of the programmers using
VS 2015 but I never thought to ask them that specifically.
As for making the Winforms controls more accessible I want:
A Master Detail layout with a Listbox at the top:
A couple or 3 controls under it that get dynamically loaded from a DataBase
and from the data held in the DataTable bound to the listbox with many
sortable columns.
I am thinking that the groups of controls perhaps 3 textboxes or some type
of grid and a couple of textboxes will be in each view and each view will
have its own MenuBar with various selections including sorts that will sort
the MasterListbox based on the columns related to that particular view.
If I use a grid control inside the view as one of the controls it would have
perhaps 7 columns and about 30 rows along with each column having a heading
and each row having a heading and then the 2 textboxes holding notes and
related metrix for each ticker as it is arrowed over in the master listbox.
I tried WindowEyes with a TabbedDocument some time ago and opted for using a
text box with lines of details in it as it read very well with WindowEyes
but now that I am thinking that this puppy may some day get published I am
considering a more modern layout as described above.
I will likely go ahead with the design using a tabbed document initially and
perhaps you can help me set it up to be accessible with WindowEyes so
navigation works smoothly through the list, the view with its MenuBar and
dropdown MenuItems and the Grid with its columns and rows and the tab list
of available views.
My problem before was that tabbing around or arrowing I had trouble getting
into the tab list once in the view content with the textboxes and, in this
case the Grid which get dynamically updated. Perhaps a hot key to jump to
the tab list from inside the view content and some way to read that I am in
the tab list would work but I am not sure how to setup a hot key to jump
focus to the tab list - but I havent looked at it in a long time now.
How have you handle navigation of TabbedDocuments in your projects?
Rick USA

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Attention GW staff

2015-07-27 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

Did I miss a message stating that we could pre-order Window Eyes? I ordered 
it today and was told it would take up to 48 hours before I could download 
and install. 


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Re: WE 9.2 still crashes on Windows update screen