JAWS Offer and Activation

[Stanley Haupt via Talk]

Hello Everyone:

 

On Wednesday, I phoned the VFO Group to make the switch from Window-Eyes
over to JAWS 18 professional. Last evening, I received an email from the VFO
Group with my serial number and authorization code. I also joined the
m...@jfw.groups.io   list. Now some of my time
can be spent in learning how to use this new screen reader. The supporting
documentation and training resources will help to make this occur.

Stanley

 

 

 

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RE: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a unnecessary
spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
I did this in tinyurl.
https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6

I tested it myself, so it should work.


regards
Thomas N. Chan 

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Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
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Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast

Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:

 

http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3

 

I think this one will work.

 

Sorry for all the trouble.

 

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Re: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Reg Webb via Talk]

thanks for a link that works.  How do I get it to download rather than
just play?
-- 
Reg


On Fri, 19 May 2017 16:40:12 +0800
"Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:

> I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
> lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a unnecessary
> spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
> I did this in tinyurl.
> https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6
> 
> I tested it myself, so it should work.
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
> Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast
> 
> Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:
> 
>  
> 
> http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3
> 
>  
> 
> I think this one will work.
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry for all the trouble.
> 
>  
> 
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RE: another jaws thing.

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

That one is available.  The command is Insert+shift+b.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:03 AM
To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: another jaws thing.

How about the battery insert q replacement?
Maybe one of the tuitorial did mention it, but hey, I am still waiting  for
the activation key from VFO.




regards
Thomas N. Chan 

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 7:23 PM
To: 'michaeel's mail' ; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: another jaws thing.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any feature like that.

It wouldn't hurt to write to VFO and request that feature.  I know I use it
from time to time.


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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:54 AM
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Subject: another jaws thing.

Hi cn Jaws read the wifi signal like we was able to do.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: another jaws thing.

[Matthew Chao via Talk]

I haven't received mine either; called on Wednesday.--Matthew Chao



On 5/19/2017 2:02 AM, Thomas N. Chan via Talk wrote:

How about the battery insert q replacement?
Maybe one of the tuitorial did mention it, but hey, I am still waiting  for
the activation key from VFO.




regards
Thomas N. Chan

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[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 7:23 PM
To: 'michaeel's mail' ; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: another jaws thing.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any feature like that.

It wouldn't hurt to write to VFO and request that feature.  I know I use it
from time to time.


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Subject: another jaws thing.

Hi cn Jaws read the wifi signal like we was able to do.
Cheers Michael.
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RE: another jaws thing.

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

I must take note of that.
Thanks a lot…
 
I only  use jaws like in version 9 or so…. 
 
 

regards
Thomas N. Chan 
From: Joseph Norton [mailto:joseph.nor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 5:34 PM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: another jaws thing.
 
That one is available.  The command is Insert+shift+b.
 
 
 
Sent from Mail   for Windows 10
 
From: Thomas N. Chan  
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:03 AM
To: 'Joseph Norton'  ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List'  
Subject: RE: another jaws thing.
 
How about the battery insert q replacement?
Maybe one of the tuitorial did mention it, but hey, I am still waiting  for
the activation key from VFO.
 
 
 

regards
Thomas N. Chan 
 
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Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 7:23 PM
To: 'michaeel's mail' mailto:michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au> >; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List' mailto:talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >
Subject: RE: another jaws thing.
 
Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any feature like that.
 
It wouldn't hurt to write to VFO and request that feature.  I know I use it
from time to time.
 
 
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Subject: another jaws thing.
 
Hi cn Jaws read the wifi signal like we was able to do.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

[Tony C via Talk]

Until you set up a hot key, you can go to the desktop and provideing that 
you only have one Icon on your desktop that starts with the letter J you can 
then press J and hit enter to start Jaws.


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

The keystroke to open JAWS is whatever you make it.
Most people make it alt+CTRL+J.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:28 AM
To: 'gosselin_louis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

As stated in the migrating podcasts I forget what one Jaws doesn't set one
by default.

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On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:17 AM
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Subject: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

Once you've shut Jaws down with Numpad Insert-F4, What is the keystroke that
restarts Jaws?

Louis Gosselin



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Re: jaws question.

[Tony C via Talk]

The ctrl key suts up Jaws

-Original Message- 
From: michael's emails via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:04 AM
To: window eyes help list
Subject: jaws question.

Hi guys i was wonering if Jaws has an interup mode.
Like WE does.
Wen i am in WLM and if Jaws is reading the in box  mail list.
And if i press alt to go to the rimmon Jaws does not jump to the rinnon 
until the last message was spoken.

Cheers Michael.
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RE: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

It really depends how your computer or PC is setup. But what I can do for
you is, I downloaded the file, upload on sendspace and you can download it
from there. 50mb or so. Too big to send it to you by email.

The other alternative is, copy the original  url I gave before onto a
download manager. This is how I did it.


regards
Thomas N. Chan 
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From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 5:28 PM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast

thanks for a link that works.  How do I get it to download rather than
just play?
-- 
Reg


On Fri, 19 May 2017 16:40:12 +0800
"Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:

> I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
> lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a unnecessary
> spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
> I did this in tinyurl.
> https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6
> 
> I tested it myself, so it should work.
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast
> 
> Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:
> 
>  
> 
>
http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3
> 
>  
> 
> I think this one will work.
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry for all the trouble.
> 
>  
> 
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Forms mode question

[Tony C via Talk]

How do you manually turn on and off forms mode in Jaws? Thanks
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RE: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

[Dennis Long via Talk]

You can do the following as well
1 press windows R.
2 type the following
Jaws18
3 press enter.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:03 AM
To: David Moore; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

Until you set up a hot key, you can go to the desktop and provideing that
you only have one Icon on your desktop that starts with the letter J you can
then press J and hit enter to start Jaws.

-Original Message-
From: David Moore via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:55 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

The keystroke to open JAWS is whatever you make it.
Most people make it alt+CTRL+J.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:28 AM
To: 'gosselin_louis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

As stated in the migrating podcasts I forget what one Jaws doesn't set one
by default.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:17 AM
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Subject: Window-Eyes to Jaws Migration

Once you've shut Jaws down with Numpad Insert-F4, What is the keystroke that
restarts Jaws?

Louis Gosselin



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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Dave via Talk]

Using the Brain God gave us?  Now there's a thought!  

The problem, at times, is the same as all computers have, and that is
Garbage in, equals Garbage out.  


So few research on their own these days, even I find myself getting too
Lazy, and accepting the comments or remarks made by someone that I don't
even know,  But what they said sounds good to me etc.Today too often,
Proof and Evidence is pushed aside for the results of examining Feelings. 
And it doesn't even need to be my own feelings, but could be the
feelings of someone I don't even know.  But, what they say sort of lines
up with how I might believe or feel about a subject.  And I have done no
research of my own, and have only my Feelings to trust.  

Emotions are easily manipulated, and Advertisers and Politicians
manipulate the Public all the time.  

Most of us do not even realise we are getting manipulated, at least not
until we start using that Brain God gave us.  

I wish more and more people would use that Brain of theirs.  

Grumpy Dave

It is the lack of true knowledge that will end up putting all of us in
Bondage.  



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RE: Jaws Questions

[Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk]

What is audio ducking?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
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Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Jaws Questions

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Research it.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:23 AM
To: Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

What is audio ducking?

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi David,

Just in case you were researching my problem, I wanted to say, ‘hold on,’ I 
solved it.
At the time of the roll-out of Windows 10 two years ago, being here in Canada, 
we couldn’t use Cortana.
In order to get access to Cortana, I had chosen to set my Region to the U.S., 
and yet I had periodically switched it to Canada in order to see whether 
Cortana was available yet.
Anyway, today, I set my region to Canada, as well as my input method to Canada, 
and I chose the additional options link and chose the speech options available 
for my region.
This seemed to cause Windows to redownload my Canadian voices as well as 
straighten out all of my installed SAPI voices.
I just thought I’d let you know this for your information and reference, in 
case you find someone else who runs into this problem in the future.
I’ll copy the talk list as well.

Thanks,

Rod

From: Rod Hutton
Sent: May 19, 2017 7:38 AM
To: 'David Moore' 
Subject: RE: Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

Hi David,

This is a text-to-speech problem, and really has nothing to do with sounds and 
audio devices.
I’ve found no repair facility for doing this in Windows 10.
Back years ago, when Kurzweil and the third-party screen readers use to both 
have the ability to install SAPI speech, there used to be a SAPI speech repair 
tool.
Does Jaws not have such an advanced feature for the modern OS?

Thanks,

Rod

From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:01 AM
To: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

Hi, Sorry!
JAWS does not have that feature. You have to repair that in the control panel 
under sounds and audio devices.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:34 PM
To: David Moore
Subject: RE: Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

Hi David,

Does Jaws have a SAPI Speech diagnostic and/or repair tool?
If so, could you advise me how to launch it?

Thanks,

Rod

From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

Hi,
Narrator works fine for me with JAWS 18 installed. I am not sure what is going 
on with you, there, but Narrator should work fine. I use both all of the time.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Jaws installation screwed up Narrator

Hi,

Just a little caution to those who decide to install Jaws on their system.
After I did this today, Narrator would not start up afterwards.
Admittedly, I'm still running a Jaws demo, and I had to restart my system to 
get Narrator to load properly.
However, even after restarting, I notice that some of my SAPI 5 Canadian voices 
won't load whereas they had been fine before installing Jaws.
So, my suggestion is that, if you might need Narrator after installing Jaws 
(and who doesn't from time to time?), test that Narrator works properly.

Best,

Rod
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Re: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Hi Thomas and thank you.
I don't have a download manager, so a Sendspace or Dropbox public link
would be much appreciated.

-- 
Reg


On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:05:09 +0800
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> It really depends how your computer or PC is setup. But what I can do for
> you is, I downloaded the file, upload on sendspace and you can download it
> from there. 50mb or so. Too big to send it to you by email.
> 
> The other alternative is, copy the original  url I gave before onto a
> download manager. This is how I did it.
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> -Original Message-
> From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 5:28 PM
> To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast
> 
> thanks for a link that works.  How do I get it to download rather than
> just play?
> -- 
> Reg
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 May 2017 16:40:12 +0800
> "Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:
> 
> > I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
> > lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a unnecessary
> > spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
> > I did this in tinyurl.
> > https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6
> > 
> > I tested it myself, so it should work.
> > 
> > 
> > regards
> > Thomas N. Chan 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf
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> > Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
> > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> > Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast
> > 
> > Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> > tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I think this one will work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sorry for all the trouble.
> > 
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Re: Jaws Questions

[Pastor Gil Pries via Talk]

Does Jaws have a start up sound?
How do you turn it on?

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:22 AM
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

What is audio ducking?

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
; t...@window-eyes.com

Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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RE: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

Can't believe I didn't paste the url here previously
So sorry about it.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0iixus



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

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From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 8:49 PM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast

Hi Thomas and thank you.
I don't have a download manager, so a Sendspace or Dropbox public link
would be much appreciated.

-- 
Reg


On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:05:09 +0800
"Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:

> It really depends how your computer or PC is setup. But what I can do for
> you is, I downloaded the file, upload on sendspace and you can download it
> from there. 50mb or so. Too big to send it to you by email.
> 
> The other alternative is, copy the original  url I gave before onto a
> download manager. This is how I did it.
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> -Original Message-
> From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 5:28 PM
> To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast
> 
> thanks for a link that works.  How do I get it to download rather than
> just play?
> -- 
> Reg
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 May 2017 16:40:12 +0800
> "Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:
> 
> > I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
> > lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a
unnecessary
> > spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
> > I did this in tinyurl.
> > https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6
> > 
> > I tested it myself, so it should work.
> > 
> > 
> > regards
> > Thomas N. Chan 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> > Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
> > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> > Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast
> > 
> > Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
>
http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> > tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I think this one will work.
> > 
> >  
> > 
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Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

[brice Mijares via Talk]

Try using the context menu within your email client to download the 2 
PDF files. That's how I got them.


On 5/18/2017 8:46 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

i get 404 errors for all of your links

-Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:59 PM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: moving to the next page

Hi all,



Below my name are a couple of links I got from the person I spoke with when
I got Jaws. I think they will come in quite handy.



Paulette







JAWS Keystrokes




JAWS Quick Start Guide
















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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:31 PM
To: Paulette Vickery via Talk
Subject: Re: moving to the next page



Did you try control page down? Also, please send me a link to that PDF.

thank you.



On 5/18/2017 3:55 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:


Hi all,















Someone from JAWS sent me a link to something called, JAWS Quick Start


Guide, in pdf format. I opened it and have the title page. Now how do 
I go


to the next page, using Window Eyes? I have version 9.4, I believe. 
Thanks



for your help.















Paulette







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RE: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

When I got the original email, each file said, link, when I came to the file
name. I was able to just hit enter and they opened. But still, on the Jaws
quick start guide, I can't get past the title page. I tried page up and page
down and I have tried shift with page up and page down.

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:01 AM
To: net bat via Talk
Subject: Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

Try using the context menu within your email client to download the 2 
PDF files. That's how I got them.

On 5/18/2017 8:46 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:
> i get 404 errors for all of your links
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:59 PM
> To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: moving to the next page
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Below my name are a couple of links I got from the person I spoke with
when
> I got Jaws. I think they will come in quite handy.
> 
> 
> 
> Paulette
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> JAWS Keystrokes
>
 
> pdf>
> 
> 
> 
> JAWS Quick Start Guide
>
 
> Start-Guide.pdf>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:31 PM
> To: Paulette Vickery via Talk
> Subject: Re: moving to the next page
> 
> 
> 
> Did you try control page down? Also, please send me a link to that PDF.
> 
> thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/18/2017 3:55 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>>
> 
>> Someone from JAWS sent me a link to something called, JAWS Quick Start
> 
>> Guide, in pdf format. I opened it and have the title page. Now how do 
>> I go
> 
>> to the next page, using Window Eyes? I have version 9.4, I believe. 
>> Thanks
> 
>> for your help.
> 
>>
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>>
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>>
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will jaws send me materials?

[joan buzza via Talk]

I went through this migration process and now have an authorization number
and a serial number, which were sent to me by email.  Do I just download the
demo version of jaws and find some way to put in these numbers or will jaws
send a cd and other useful information via snail mail?

 

joan

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Jaws and the system tray?

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

When I press insert+f11 to access the system tray, Jaws only shows two items in 
the system tray.  When I access the system tray with window eyes, I have 11 
items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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RE: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Well said!

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:17 AM
To: David Moore; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

Using the Brain God gave us?  Now there's a thought!  

The problem, at times, is the same as all computers have, and that is
Garbage in, equals Garbage out.  


So few research on their own these days, even I find myself getting too
Lazy, and accepting the comments or remarks made by someone that I don't
even know,  But what they said sounds good to me etc.Today too often,
Proof and Evidence is pushed aside for the results of examining Feelings. 
And it doesn't even need to be my own feelings, but could be the
feelings of someone I don't even know.  But, what they say sort of lines
up with how I might believe or feel about a subject.  And I have done no
research of my own, and have only my Feelings to trust.  

Emotions are easily manipulated, and Advertisers and Politicians
manipulate the Public all the time.  

Most of us do not even realise we are getting manipulated, at least not
until we start using that Brain God gave us.  

I wish more and more people would use that Brain of theirs.  

Grumpy Dave

It is the lack of true knowledge that will end up putting all of us in
Bondage.  



-- 
Dave 

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RE: Jaws and the system tray?

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

There is a button in the system tray that you need to press to show all items. 
JAWS will call it the notification Sheveron button
Then try insert+f11.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws and the system tray?

When I press insert+f11 to access the system tray, Jaws only shows two items in 
the system tray.  When I access the system tray with window eyes, I have 11 
items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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RE: will jaws send me materials?

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

The serial number you don't need to put in the activation, unless they changed 
it. When you download the demo of JAWS, when it first runs, an activation 
dialog will appear. Click the enter authorization number manually, and then 
paste the authorization number in to the software edit field, then select 
activate by internet, which is the default option.
I hope this helps.
Darrell

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of joan buzza via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:27 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: will jaws send me materials?

I went through this migration process and now have an authorization number and 
a serial number, which were sent to me by email.  Do I just download the demo 
version of jaws and find some way to put in these numbers or will jaws send a 
cd and other useful information via snail mail?

 

joan

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Re: converting to jaws

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

That was the nice thing about window eyes.  They had the lease to own 
program where you could make monthly payments.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

I don't know if VFO will let you pay a little a month for a couple of months
till you get it paid or not. Couldn't hurt to ask.

-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:48 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Can't. My credit card's restricted while I get my credit under control after
a disastrous romantic relationship which I won't go into here LOL. So I
can't use it. That's probably how I'll end up purchasing it eventually but
just not right at the moment.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: net bat

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

charge it! grin.
even with a years worth of interest it would still cost less then $900 to
buy
it.
-Original Message- 
From: Bryan Peterson via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:51 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Huber

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Brian:

Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial
discount.  For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or
8.4, it will cost $130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower
versions.



Kevin Huber


On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:
I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current and 
I


can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to remember 
has


been coming back to me.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
Armando
- Original Message -
From: "Don H via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: converting to jaws



So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a
Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told 
I


should finally get my activation key tomorrow.
The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think 
I


could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO will

still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.
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question, when installing Jaws?

[David Pearson via Talk]

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do 
I have to have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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Re: Trying once again with link to podcast

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Thank you Thomas

-- 
Reg


On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:57:07 +0800
"Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:

> Can't believe I didn't paste the url here previously
> So sorry about it.
> https://www.sendspace.com/file/0iixus
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 8:49 PM
> To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast
> 
> Hi Thomas and thank you.
> I don't have a download manager, so a Sendspace or Dropbox public link
> would be much appreciated.
> 
> -- 
> Reg
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:05:09 +0800
> "Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:
> 
> > It really depends how your computer or PC is setup. But what I can do for
> > you is, I downloaded the file, upload on sendspace and you can download it
> > from there. 50mb or so. Too big to send it to you by email.
> > 
> > The other alternative is, copy the original  url I gave before onto a
> > download manager. This is how I did it.
> > 
> > 
> > regards
> > Thomas N. Chan 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Reg Webb [mailto:regw...@btinternet.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 5:28 PM
> > To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Trying once again with link to podcast
> > 
> > thanks for a link that works.  How do I get it to download rather than
> > just play?
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 19 May 2017 16:40:12 +0800
> > "Thomas N. Chan via Talk"  wrote:
> > 
> > > I think the url broke into a few lines which even if you would copy the
> > > lines, you still can't get it working. I also notice there's a
> unnecessary
> > > spacing which cause the link or url not to work.
> > > I did this in tinyurl.
> > > https://tinyurl.com/maphkr6
> > > 
> > > I tested it myself, so it should work.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > Thomas N. Chan 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Talk
> > > [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> > > Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 11:47 AM
> > > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> > > Subject: Trying once again with link to podcast
> > > 
> > > Ok, one more time.  Gotta go to bed after this one:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FSCast/episodes/FSCast138-Software_Upda
> > > tes,Key_Labels,Eric_Damery_at_CSUN.mp3
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I think this one will work.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Sorry for all the trouble.
> > > 
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Re: converting to jaws

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

June 31?  Reminds me of a suspense eposode called the 32nd of December.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On 
Thu, 18 May 2017, Tony C via Talk wrote:



The offer does end after june 31

-Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:51 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Brian:

Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial
discount.  For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or
8.4, it will cost $130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower
versions.



Kevin Huber


On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:

 I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current and
 I

 can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to remember
 has

 been coming back to me.



 Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
 -Original Message-
 From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
 To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: converting to jaws

 Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
 Armando
 - Original Message -
 From: "Don H via Talk" 
 To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
 Subject: converting to jaws


>  So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a
>  Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told 
>  I
> 
>  should finally get my activation key tomorrow.

>  The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
>  Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think 
>  I
> 
>  could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO 
>  will
> 
>  still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.

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Re: jaws authorization question

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Oddly enough, as I was reading this e-mail, I got a phone call from them 
and said they'd be e-mailing me my codes in 2 or 3 days.  So in my case, 
they did confirm it with a phone call.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 18 May 2017, Portia Scott 
via Talk wrote:











They do. But you may have to email the orders or customer 
support email address to get it. Not saying that will be true for you guys, but 
I did for mine.


Get Outlook for iOS






On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:10 PM -0700, "Marcie Brink-Chaney" 
 wrote:










I thought they send you an activation code in an email message.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Portia Scott via Talk  wrote:









  Hello Bob,
If you have already gotten your order confirmation email, you can email 
orders@VFO-group.comOtherwise or reply to the email I believe and request your 
authorization number and serial number. Otherwise, if you've gotten the order 
confirmation today, you may receive your authorization number and serial 
numbers in an email the next day, which would be Friday.
I replied, because I didn't think anyone had replied to you. Anyways, hopefully 
you get your authorization number and serial number soon. I emailed them this 
morning, and they emailed me back pretty quickly with the information I needed. 
So hopefully this helps you.


  Get Outlook for iOS






On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:27 PM -0700, "Bob Richards via Talk"  wrote:










Hi, I was wondering how you get the authorization for jaws?  I have heard
people have called Jaws, 1-8000-444-4443 and they sent it by email.  I just
called and the lady said it would be sent out next week by the post office.
Does anyone know how this works?  Thanks a lot, Bob***

Bob Richards
bob...@comcast.net

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RE: question, when installing Jaws?

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

You don't, but JAWS has its own talking installation, so I always unload my 
screen reader before installing.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of David Pearson via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:52 AM
To: Discussion List 
Subject: question, when installing Jaws?

Hello list,

   I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have to 
have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,

Dave

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RE: converting to jaws

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

No, you can't make monthly payments on JAWS.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:52 AM
To: Tony C ; Bryan Peterson 
; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: converting to jaws

That was the nice thing about window eyes.  They had the lease to own program 
where you could make monthly payments.

-Original Message-
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:21 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

I don't know if VFO will let you pay a little a month for a couple of months 
till you get it paid or not. Couldn't hurt to ask.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:48 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Can't. My credit card's restricted while I get my credit under control after a 
disastrous romantic relationship which I won't go into here LOL. So I can't use 
it. That's probably how I'll end up purchasing it eventually but just not right 
at the moment.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: net bat
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:36 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

charge it! grin.
even with a years worth of interest it would still cost less then $900 to buy 
it.
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:51 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Brian:

Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial discount.  
For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or 8.4, it will cost 
$130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower versions.



Kevin Huber


On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:
> I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current 
> and I
>
> can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to 
> remember has
>
> been coming back to me.
>
>
>
> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
> -Original Message-
> From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: converting to jaws
>
> Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
> Armando
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don H via Talk" 
> To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
> Subject: converting to jaws
>
>
>> So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing 
>> a Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am 
>> told I
>>
>> should finally get my activation key tomorrow.
>> The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
>> Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't 
>> think I
>>
>> could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO 
>> will
>>
>> still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.
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RE: Jaws Questions

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

No, JAWS does not have a startup sound.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:55 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (75) ; Window-Eyes 
Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Jaws Questions

Does Jaws have a start up sound?
How do you turn it on?

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:22 AM
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

What is audio ducking?

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with 
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The 
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing 
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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RE: question, when installing Jaws?

[Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk]

If you uninstall we first how do you hear where you are to find the jaws on the 
desktop or from your  download page.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:14 AM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: question, when installing Jaws?

You don't, but JAWS has its own talking installation, so I always unload my 
screen reader before installing.


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Behalf Of David Pearson via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:52 AM
To: Discussion List 
Subject: question, when installing Jaws?

Hello list,

   I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have to 
have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,

Dave

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Re: question, when installing Jaws?

[Armando Maldonado via Talk]

Hello, It's called Narrator, which can be access using various methods. In 
latest Win10 update, ctrl windows enter will give you that access. in 
previous versions, windows U and n. Hope this helps. The impossible is 
always possible, think outside the box.

Armando
- Original Message - 
From: "Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk" 
To: "Darrell Bowles" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 


Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: question, when installing Jaws?


If you uninstall we first how do you hear where you are to find the jaws 
on the desktop or from your  download page.


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:14 AM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 


Subject: RE: question, when installing Jaws?

You don't, but JAWS has its own talking installation, so I always unload 
my screen reader before installing.



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Behalf Of David Pearson via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:52 AM
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Subject: question, when installing Jaws?

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have 
to have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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Re: question, when installing Jaws?

[net bat via Talk]

you don't have to uninstall wineyes, if this is what you ment.
both can be on the computer.

but i would unload w e as soon as the jaws setup screen opens. my computer 
crashes when both are running at the same time.


-Original Message- 
From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:26 AM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: question, when installing Jaws?

If you uninstall we first how do you hear where you are to find the jaws on the 
desktop or from your  download page.


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On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:14 AM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 


Subject: RE: question, when installing Jaws?

You don't, but JAWS has its own talking installation, so I always unload my 
screen reader before installing.



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Subject: question, when installing Jaws?

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have to 
have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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RE: another jaws thing.

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

I got the activation key just a few hours back after I give them a ring. The
lady Elizabeth help me  to register on her end.
At least I shouldn't  be up till now, in the middle of the night. Its time
for bed now...

Maybe you should give them a call.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 
-Original Message-
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Of Matthew Chao via Talk
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2017 7:56 PM
To: Thomas N. Chan via Talk 
Subject: Re: another jaws thing.

I haven't received mine either; called on Wednesday.--Matthew Chao



On 5/19/2017 2:02 AM, Thomas N. Chan via Talk wrote:
> How about the battery insert q replacement?
> Maybe one of the tuitorial did mention it, but hey, I am still waiting
for
> the activation key from VFO.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> Thomas N. Chan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 18 May 2017 7:23 PM
> To: 'michaeel's mail' ; 'Window-Eyes
> Discussion List' 
> Subject: RE: another jaws thing.
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any feature like that.
> 
> It wouldn't hurt to write to VFO and request that feature.  I know I use
it
> from time to time.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:54 AM
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> Subject: another jaws thing.
> 
> Hi cn Jaws read the wifi signal like we was able to do.
> Cheers Michael.
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Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

[net bat via Talk]

doesn't work.
it says the page or file can not be found.

-Original Message- 
From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:00 AM
To: net bat via Talk
Subject: Re: files not found/Re: moving to the next page

Try using the context menu within your email client to download the 2
PDF files. That's how I got them.

On 5/18/2017 8:46 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

i get 404 errors for all of your links

-Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:59 PM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: moving to the next page

Hi all,



Below my name are a couple of links I got from the person I spoke with when
I got Jaws. I think they will come in quite handy.



Paulette







JAWS Keystrokes




JAWS Quick Start Guide
















-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:31 PM
To: Paulette Vickery via Talk
Subject: Re: moving to the next page



Did you try control page down? Also, please send me a link to that PDF.

thank you.



On 5/18/2017 3:55 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote:


Hi all,















Someone from JAWS sent me a link to something called, JAWS Quick Start



Guide, in pdf format. I opened it and have the title page. Now how do I go



to the next page, using Window Eyes? I have version 9.4, I believe. Thanks



for your help.















Paulette







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Re: question, when installing Jaws?

[Jim via Talk]

Hi Dave!

Not to certain of what others did, but I left Window-Eyes turned on 
until I had the installation completed. It helped me through the process 
which  made the process go much quicker! Good Luck! de


.


On 19-May-17 09:52, David Pearson via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I 
have to have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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Re: converting to jaws

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

You did.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Chao via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:41 PM
To: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

I thought I read July 31.--Matthew Chao



On 5/18/2017 6:03 PM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote:

You mean July? Or did you mean June 30?



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- From: Tony C
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:15 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

The offer does end after june 31

-Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:51 PM
To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

As I understand it though doesn't that only apply till the end of July?
Because if so there'll be no way I'll be able to save up that much.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:16 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Hi Brian:

Even if your retail copy is not current, you will get a substantial
discount.  For instance, if you have WE version 8.0, 8.1, 8.2,  8.3 or
8.4, it will cost $130 in U.S. funds, and the cost goes up for lower
versions.



Kevin Huber


On 5/17/17, Bryan Peterson via Talk  wrote:
I only wish I could. Unfortunately my retail copy of WE isn't current and 
I


can't purchase an upgrade. Fortunately a lot of what I used to remember 
has


been coming back to me.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: Armando Maldonado via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: converting to jaws

Haven't got mine yet so hope things work out.
Armando
- Original Message -
From: "Don H via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: converting to jaws



So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a
Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told 
I


should finally get my activation key tomorrow.
The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE.
Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think 
I


could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free.  Of course VFO 
will


still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future.
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window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Sue J. Ward via Talk]

 Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down 
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I 
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use 
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to 
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or 
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. 
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different 
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window 
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.


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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Jim via Talk]

I hate to tell you this, but if you believe that Trump is any more 
honest than Hillary is then I can sell you some prime ocean front 
property in Topeka KS!. Have A Good 1! de


.

On 19-May-17 01:45, David Moore via Talk wrote:

That is funny about Trump LOL!
Well, I always say that even intelligent people believe what they hear way too 
much without searching it for themselves. It has always amazed me just how 
gullible people really are LOL! People give money to crazy diets and the like. 
You can learn more concerning just about anything just by researching it 
yourself. You can save a lot of money. I found out about free NVDA screen 
reader, and I use it half of the time, now, with JAWS, but I am using JAWS less 
and less. Thinking with the Brain God gave you sure pays off sometimes LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Shannon via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:52 PM
To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

Thanks for that! I had to laugh at the Hillary comment. And I'm not taking it 
offensively or any other way just thought it was funny.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Loy via Talk  wrote:

Window Eyes is not dead, it was resurrected in the form of JAWS. And some 
people still think that Hillary was honest and upright.
  - Original Message -
  From: Peter Duran via Talk
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:09 AM
  Subject: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!


  Well, now all of you officially know that Window-Eyes is really dead!  But, 
why couldn’t most of  you (mostly well-educated and intelligent) folks figure 
that out for yourselves?

  That is  by no means a silly question.  Analysis of news stories, by 
independent researchers, over the past 6 months reveal that smart people as 
well as stupid people embrace “fake news” with equal relish.  Why is that?

  Also, lots of folks still believe that President Trump is “doing a good job” 
in spite of the fact that nothing has been really accomplished so far and that 
Trump apparently has no clue about the facts at hand.

  It is an intriguing question, pondered by sociologists, why approximately 
half of the population, in any given community at any given time, will believe 
“crazy stuff” if asserted by a “figure of authority”.

  Peter Duran





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Re: Jaws Questions

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Richard,
Ducking occurs when there is audio playing such as music or a YouTube 
video and you do something to cause JAWS to speak. It will lower the 
volume of the other audio to duck out of the way for a moment so you can 
hear the speech.

Hth,
Tom


On 5/19/2017 8:22 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:

What is audio ducking?

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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Re: Jaws Questions

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

I like the feature sometimes, but sometimes I don't.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> Ducking occurs when there is audio playing such as music or a YouTube video 
> and you do something to cause JAWS to speak. It will lower the volume of the 
> other audio to duck out of the way for a moment so you can hear the speech.
> Hth,
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On 5/19/2017 8:22 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
>> What is audio ducking?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
>> To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
>> ; t...@window-eyes.com
>> Subject: RE: Jaws Questions
>> 
>> Hi:
>> 
>> The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
>> Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
>> first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
>> echo, and audio ducking if available.
>> 
>> The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
>> To: t...@window-eyes.com
>> Subject: Jaws Questions
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am now using Jaws 18.
>> I have a couple of questions.
>> First How do I turn off punctuation?
>> It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
>> Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
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windows status?

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the 
status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de


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Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?

On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:
>   Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down 
> sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I 
> maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use 
> NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to 
> exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or 
> something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. 
> I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different 
> at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window 
> eyes users so we can get used to jaws.
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How Ironic!

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

This morning, our IT department pushed a bunch of security patches.  Guess
which one failed and guess what happened to JAWS?
 
I have Window-Eyes for Office installed and had it not been there, I
wouldn't have been able to perform essential work.
 
We had to start the process over again but in the meantime, JAWS is DOA.
Thank the ever-lovin' . for Window-Eyes.
 
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RE: windows status?

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

You mean status bar?
Insert - page down
I believe jaws button and page down depending which keyboard you are using.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

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Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2017 1:40 AM
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Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the 
status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de

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Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Jim via Talk]

Nick, don't know what you have set on your system, but I do have a sound 
set up when I start or restart my computer.  Not certain of where you go 
to turn them on, but I bet there is someone on this list that could 
probably tell you.  Good Luck! de


.


On 19-May-17 13:23, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?

On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:

   Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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Re: windows status?

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

I read something that indicated that it is numpad insert plus the numpad 
page down key, but for me, that only reads the status if I am in 
something like file explorer.


In Thunderbird, I always used it to see how many emails were not yet 
read.  In Jaws, it does not say anything.  I might be missing something, 
i.e., maybe it should be set as the default for all programs or something.


Carol


On 5/19/2017 1:40 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the 
status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de


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RE: windows status?

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Insert page down will read the status line.

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On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: windows status?

I read something that indicated that it is numpad insert plus the numpad
page down key, but for me, that only reads the status if I am in something
like file explorer.

In Thunderbird, I always used it to see how many emails were not yet read.
In Jaws, it does not say anything.  I might be missing something, i.e.,
maybe it should be set as the default for all programs or something.

Carol


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> Hi there FOLKS!
>
> Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the 
> status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de
>
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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

This is not a political List. Please stop the political comments. Take them 
off-list.


-Bob Ringwald


-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:09 AM
To: David Moore ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

I hate to tell you this, but if you believe that Trump is any more
honest than Hillary is then I can sell you some prime ocean front
property in Topeka KS!. Have A Good 1! de

.

On 19-May-17 01:45, David Moore via Talk wrote:

That is funny about Trump LOL!
Well, I always say that even intelligent people believe what they hear way 
too much without searching it for themselves. It has always amazed me just 
how gullible people really are LOL! People give money to crazy diets and 
the like. You can learn more concerning just about anything just by 
researching it yourself. You can save a lot of money. I found out about 
free NVDA screen reader, and I use it half of the time, now, with JAWS, 
but I am using JAWS less and less. Thinking with the Brain God gave you 
sure pays off sometimes LOL!

David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Shannon via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:52 PM
To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

Thanks for that! I had to laugh at the Hillary comment. And I'm not taking 
it offensively or any other way just thought it was funny.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Loy via Talk  
wrote:


Window Eyes is not dead, it was resurrected in the form of JAWS. And some 
people still think that Hillary was honest and upright.

  - Original Message -
  From: Peter Duran via Talk
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:09 AM
  Subject: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!


  Well, now all of you officially know that Window-Eyes is really dead! 
But, why couldn’t most of  you (mostly well-educated and intelligent) 
folks figure that out for yourselves?


  That is  by no means a silly question.  Analysis of news stories, by 
independent researchers, over the past 6 months reveal that smart people 
as well as stupid people embrace “fake news” with equal relish.  Why is 
that?


  Also, lots of folks still believe that President Trump is “doing a good 
job” in spite of the fact that nothing has been really accomplished so far 
and that Trump apparently has no clue about the facts at hand.


  It is an intriguing question, pondered by sociologists, why 
approximately half of the population, in any given community at any given 
time, will believe “crazy stuff” if asserted by a “figure of authority”.


  Peter Duran





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JAWS and the web

[Doug Geoffray via Talk]

I've seen several questions regarding how you use JAWS on the web.  I just want 
to remind people of the Window-Eyes to JAWS tutorials that Raul developed.  
There are 8 of them and they can be found on the Migrate page at:

http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/

The last one is specifically on web browsing.  Also, you may want to spend some 
time on the Surf's Up.  If you practice here, you'll go a long way to 
understanding and learning the various options on the web.  On the JAWS 
Headquarters, this page is found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm

Someone asked specifically how you manually turn on and off forms mode in Jaws. 
 That is answered her but specifically that can be found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm

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Re: JAWS and the web

[John Covici via Talk]

Jaws tech support said you could not turn forms mode on andoff
manually, escape will go back to virtual pc.  However insert-z turns
off virtual-pc, does not turn on forms mode, but it sort of works in
those cases where you have to do this.

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> want to remind people of the Window-Eyes to JAWS tutorials that Raul 
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> 
> http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/
> 
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> understanding and learning the various options on the web.  On the JAWS 
> Headquarters, this page is found at:
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm
> 
> Someone asked specifically how you manually turn on and off forms mode in 
> Jaws.  That is answered her but specifically that can be found at:
> 
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm
> 
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RE: Jaws Questions

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi:

If you are running Windows 10 Creators’ update, Audio Ducking has been disabled 
due to some sound problems.  They hope to have it back when something changes 
in Windows.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:30 PM
To: Kurlander Richard (75); Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Jaws Questions

Richard,
Ducking occurs when there is audio playing such as music or a YouTube 
video and you do something to cause JAWS to speak. It will lower the 
volume of the other audio to duck out of the way for a moment so you can 
hear the speech.
Hth,
Tom


On 5/19/2017 8:22 AM, Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk wrote:
> What is audio ducking?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
> To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
> ; t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: RE: Jaws Questions
>
> Hi:
>
> The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
> Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
> first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
> echo, and audio ducking if available.
>
> The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
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> Hi,
> I am now using Jaws 18.
> I have a couple of questions.
> First How do I turn off punctuation?
> It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
> Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
> Thanks in advance for your help.
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RE: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

JAWS will announce 'Unloading JAWS' when it unloads.  I haven't observed
there being available startup or shutdown sounds for JAWS.


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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:51 PM
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Subject: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

  Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down 
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I 
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use 
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to 
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or 
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. 
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different 
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window 
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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RE: windows status?

[Bob Hicks via Talk]

If you mean the state of the window, you need to turn the Jaws cursor
on(minus key on the numpad)(mouse mode) and hit Jaws key(0 on the numpad)
and r.  In the Jaws cursor mode, the window states will cycle thru the
different modes.


Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: windows status?

I read something that indicated that it is numpad insert plus the numpad
page down key, but for me, that only reads the status if I am in something
like file explorer.

In Thunderbird, I always used it to see how many emails were not yet read.
In Jaws, it does not say anything.  I might be missing something, i.e.,
maybe it should be set as the default for all programs or something.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 1:40 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
> Hi there FOLKS!
>
> Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the 
> status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de
>
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Hi, Jaws does not have a start up sound. I'm not sure what folder in the WE program where the sounds are located. The transition over to jaws has been pretty easy for me.Re: window eyes shut down and

[Tony C via Talk]

-Original Message- 
From: Sue J. Ward via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:50 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

 Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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RE: question, when installing Jaws?

[David Moore via Talk]

You can also use Narrator to help a lot through the process.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:34 PM
To: David Pearson; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, when installing Jaws?

Hi Dave!

Not to certain of what others did, but I left Window-Eyes turned on 
until I had the installation completed. It helped me through the process 
which  made the process go much quicker! Good Luck! de

.


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>
>   I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I 
> have to have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,
>
>Dave
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Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Tony C via Talk]

Hi, the windows sounds are in control panel, under sounds...

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From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:06 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Nick, don't know what you have set on your system, but I do have a sound
set up when I start or restart my computer.  Not certain of where you go
to turn them on, but I bet there is someone on this list that could
probably tell you.  Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 13:23, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?

On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:

   Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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Re: windows status?

[Jim via Talk]

Thanks very much for all the useful info, I am learning this JAWs  whole 
lot faster than what I thought I would! Thanks Again! de


.


On 19-May-17 15:22, Bob Hicks via Talk wrote:

If you mean the state of the window, you need to turn the Jaws cursor
on(minus key on the numpad)(mouse mode) and hit Jaws key(0 on the numpad)
and r.  In the Jaws cursor mode, the window states will cycle thru the
different modes.


Have a great day!

Bob Hicks

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Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: windows status?

I read something that indicated that it is numpad insert plus the numpad
page down key, but for me, that only reads the status if I am in something
like file explorer.

In Thunderbird, I always used it to see how many emails were not yet read.
In Jaws, it does not say anything.  I might be missing something, i.e.,
maybe it should be set as the default for all programs or something.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 1:40 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if there is a keystroke that I can use to give me the
status of windows such as there was with Window-Eyes? Thanks Much! de

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RE: Jaws Questions

[Matthew Dyer via Talk]

Hi,

Audio ducking is whare sound is lowered while jaws is speaking.  For
example, you are playing music in windows media.  When jaws is speqaking,
the music  is lowered so that you ccan here what is said.  After jaws
finishes speaking, music is brought back to normel valume.  HTH.

Matthew



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On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:23 AM
To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

What is audio ducking?

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:13 PM
To: 'Pastor Gil Pries' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Jaws Questions

Hi:

The easiest way to set punctuation level is to open the JAWS window with
Insert-j, then, go into the help menu and select the start-up wizard.  The
first group of settings allows you to set speech rate, punctuation, typing
echo, and audio ducking if available.

The command that works like WE's read-to-end is insert-down arrow.

Hope this helps.



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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:14 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Jaws Questions

Hi,
I am now using Jaws 18.
I have a couple of questions.
First How do I turn off punctuation?
It keeps saying window-dash-eyes.  I want to hear windoweyes.
Second What is the read all command in Jaws?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Pastor Gil
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RE: JAWS and the web

[Dennis Long via Talk]

To make it where you have to manually activate forms mode do the following.
1.First, make sure the cursor is at the top of the page. Press CTRL+HOME.
2.Press INSERT+V to open the JAWS Quick Settings dialog box. Focus is in the
search edit box.
3.Type in "auto" without the quotes. JAWS filters out all results that do
not match the search in the tree view below.
4.Press DOWN ARROW to move to the choice that reads "Auto Forms Mode - Auto"
in the Virtual Cursor Options. There are three options here, Auto,
Semi-auto,
5.Press SPACEBAR to change this to manual.
6.Next, press TAB to move to the OK button, and then press SPACEBAR to
activate it. Quick Settings closes and the changes are saved. 
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On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:39 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: JAWS and the web

I've seen several questions regarding how you use JAWS on the web.  I just
want to remind people of the Window-Eyes to JAWS tutorials that Raul
developed.  There are 8 of them and they can be found on the Migrate page
at:

http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/

The last one is specifically on web browsing.  Also, you may want to spend
some time on the Surf's Up.  If you practice here, you'll go a long way to
understanding and learning the various options on the web.  On the JAWS
Headquarters, this page is found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm

Someone asked specifically how you manually turn on and off forms mode in
Jaws.  That is answered her but specifically that can be found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm

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Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Yes, but I don't think there is a way to make the window eyes start up and 
shutdown sounds work for jaws like she wants to do.  Pam.


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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Hi, the windows sounds are in control panel, under sounds...

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:06 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Nick, don't know what you have set on your system, but I do have a sound
set up when I start or restart my computer.  Not certain of where you go
to turn them on, but I bet there is someone on this list that could
probably tell you.  Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 13:23, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?

On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:

   Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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Systray Keystrokes

[Pastor Gil Pries via Talk]

Hi,
The shortcut key for accessing the  systray is windows-b.
Just thought you would like to know it.

Pastor Gil
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if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[BK via Talk]

I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical
problems earlier in the week. She sent my license while I was still on
the phone with her. You may want to call again if you have been waiting
for more than a day or so. HTH.

Butch
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RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Jo Talliaferro via Talk]

Hello!

I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over a week 
ago.  Last evening, I
received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out whether 
I could have Jaws for
home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure exactly what 
this means but it
seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I would 
receive its equivalent in
Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message being sent 
to others who are
migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines have been 
strangely busy!
Smile!

Jo Taliaferro

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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Of BK via
Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
To: AI Squared 
Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical problems 
earlier in the week. She
sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want to call 
again if you have been
waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

Butch
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OT netflix question

[Tony C via Talk]

Hi all, thought maybe someone my have the answer to this question. When I 
listen to a audio described movie with IE I hear the description, but when I 
listen to the same movie using Firefox I don’t hear the description. Is there a 
setting in Firefox I need to change or enable?
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Loy via Talk]

You can choose the professional or home edition. If you only use for home use, 
you should elect to get the home edition. Future updates are less expensive for 
home edition than for the Professional version.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk 
  To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:40 PM
  Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this


  Hello!

  I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over a 
week ago.  Last evening, I
  received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out 
whether I could have Jaws for
  home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure exactly 
what this means but it
  seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I would 
receive its equivalent in
  Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message being 
sent to others who are
  migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines have 
been strangely busy!
  Smile!

  Jo Taliaferro

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of BK via
  Talk
  Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
  To: AI Squared 
  Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

  I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
  6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical problems 
earlier in the week. She
  sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want to call 
again if you have been
  waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

  Butch
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[net bat via Talk]

i think both versions are the same.
except for the license.
home is for 3 computers. pro depends on how many business computers you have to 
install it on.

the more computers the more the license costs.

-Original Message- 
From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:40 PM
To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

Hello!

I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over a week 
ago.  Last evening, I
received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out whether 
I could have Jaws for
home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure exactly what 
this means but it
seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I would 
receive its equivalent in
Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message being sent 
to others who are
migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines have been 
strangely busy!

Smile!

Jo Taliaferro

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of BK via

Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
To: AI Squared 
Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical problems 
earlier in the week. She
sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want to call 
again if you have been

waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

Butch
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Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[net bat via Talk]

if someone knows how to program with power basic or the like you could do it.
but i don't know how to make power basic open and play sounds without useing 
the windows media player or anyother music player for that matter.
i tried it with a batch file but the media player stays on the screen after the 
beginning and ending sound has plaied.


-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:05 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Yes, but I don't think there is a way to make the window eyes start up and
shutdown sounds work for jaws like she wants to do.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Hi, the windows sounds are in control panel, under sounds...

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:06 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Nick, don't know what you have set on your system, but I do have a sound
set up when I start or restart my computer.  Not certain of where you go
to turn them on, but I bet there is someone on this list that could
probably tell you.  Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 13:23, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?

On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:

   Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
I visited the VFO site and there were 2 64 bit Jaws  versions available 
for me.  One showed it was non-tandum while  the other did not mension 
tandum at all so I assume that version had this capability.


There was no mention, that I could find anyway,that these were the 
"Home" or "Pro"versions.


Is it only in the type of registration that indicates whether it is the 
Home or Pro version?


Thanks
Neville.



On 20/05/2017 9:58 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

You can choose the professional or home edition. If you only use for home use, 
you should elect to get the home edition. Future updates are less expensive for 
home edition than for the Professional version.
   - Original Message -
   From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk
   To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:40 PM
   Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this


   Hello!

   I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over a 
week ago.  Last evening, I
   received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out 
whether I could have Jaws for
   home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure exactly 
what this means but it
   seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I would 
receive its equivalent in
   Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message being 
sent to others who are
   migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines have 
been strangely busy!
   Smile!

   Jo Taliaferro

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of BK via
   Talk
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
   To: AI Squared 
   Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

   I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
   6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical problems 
earlier in the week. She
   sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want to 
call again if you have been
   waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

   Butch
   --
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Dave via Talk]

Hello Jo,

Some here received their Authorization codes within a few minutes to
three or more days.Some were told they would have them mailed to
their home address.  

I was told it would be three days.  Three days came, and I still had
nothing, so I called.  They did some magic on their end, and within 10
minutes I had my Codes and could proceed with the Window Eyes to Jaws
migration

If I had not called, I have a feeling I would still be waiting for them.  

Not sure why mine and others took longer, but if you've been waiting,
I'd give them a call on Monday morning.

Grumpy Dave


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RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Dennis Long via Talk]

That's right.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:31 PM
To: Loy via Talk; Window Eyes
Subject: Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

Hi,
I visited the VFO site and there were 2 64 bit Jaws  versions available for
me.  One showed it was non-tandum while  the other did not mension tandum at
all so I assume that version had this capability.

There was no mention, that I could find anyway,that these were the "Home" or
"Pro"versions.

Is it only in the type of registration that indicates whether it is the Home
or Pro version?

Thanks
Neville.



On 20/05/2017 9:58 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
> You can choose the professional or home edition. If you only use for home
use, you should elect to get the home edition. Future updates are less
expensive for home edition than for the Professional version.
>- Original Message -
>From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk
>To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:40 PM
>Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this
> 
> 
>Hello!
> 
>I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over
a week ago.  Last evening, I
>received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out
whether I could have Jaws for
>home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure
exactly what this means but it
>seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I
would receive its equivalent in
>Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message
being sent to others who are
>migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines
have been strangely busy!
>Smile!
> 
>Jo Taliaferro
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of BK via
>Talk
>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
>To: AI Squared 
>Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this
> 
>I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
>6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical
problems earlier in the week. She
>sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want
to call again if you have been
>waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.
> 
>Butch
>--
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

The main thing is to make sure you get the proper file, 32 or 64 bit.  
If you never want to connect with anyone, get the non-tandom file for 
your computer type.  The home or pro version is the same download file.  
The difference comes when you get your license. Home has the same 
features as pro.  The license controls which one you end up with.


When I first installed Jaws, the 40-minute demo started as a pro 
version.  When I received my activation key, the fame installation 
became a home version.


Carol


On 5/19/2017 8:30 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
I visited the VFO site and there were 2 64 bit Jaws  versions 
available for me.  One showed it was non-tandum while  the other did 
not mension tandum at all so I assume that version had this capability.


There was no mention, that I could find anyway,that these were the 
"Home" or "Pro"versions.


Is it only in the type of registration that indicates whether it is 
the Home or Pro version?


Thanks
Neville.



On 20/05/2017 9:58 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
You can choose the professional or home edition. If you only use for 
home use, you should elect to get the home edition. Future updates 
are less expensive for home edition than for the Professional version.

   - Original Message -
   From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk
   To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:40 PM
   Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this


   Hello!

   I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws 
over a week ago.  Last evening, I
   received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure 
out whether I could have Jaws for
   home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure 
exactly what this means but it
   seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I 
would receive its equivalent in
   Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this 
message being sent to others who are
   migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone 
lines have been strangely busy!

   Smile!

   Jo Taliaferro

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of BK via

   Talk
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
   To: AI Squared 
   Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

   I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday 
about
   6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical 
problems earlier in the week. She
   sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may 
want to call again if you have been

   waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

   Butch
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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Matthew Chao via Talk]

Hi, Dave.  I did the same thing - called them, explained my story, and 
before I knew it, they sent me my authorization via email.  It's as 
though they said "Oops," and got it done; no muss no fuss.  Yes, I'd 
suggest you call Monday as well.--Matthew Chao




On 5/19/2017 8:45 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello Jo,

Some here received their Authorization codes within a few minutes to
three or more days.Some were told they would have them mailed to
their home address.

I was told it would be three days.  Three days came, and I still had
nothing, so I called.  They did some magic on their end, and within 10
minutes I had my Codes and could proceed with the Window Eyes to Jaws
migration

If I had not called, I have a feeling I would still be waiting for them.

Not sure why mine and others took longer, but if you've been waiting,
I'd give them a call on Monday morning.

Grumpy Dave



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RE: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Here's a little utility in my DropBox which will do the trick for you:

http://bit.ly/2rB0TSJ

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: May 19, 2017 8:26 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

if someone knows how to program with power basic or the like you could do it.
but i don't know how to make power basic open and play sounds without useing 
the windows media player or anyother music player for that matter.
i tried it with a batch file but the media player stays on the screen after the 
beginning and ending sound has plaied.

-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:05 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Yes, but I don't think there is a way to make the window eyes start up and
shutdown sounds work for jaws like she wants to do.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Hi, the windows sounds are in control panel, under sounds...

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:06 PM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

Nick, don't know what you have set on your system, but I do have a sound
set up when I start or restart my computer.  Not certain of where you go
to turn them on, but I bet there is someone on this list that could
probably tell you.  Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 13:23, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
> Does Windows have iwts own sounds as well?
>
> On 5/19/2017 12:50 PM, Sue J. Ward via Talk wrote:
>>Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down
>> sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I
>> maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use
>> NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to
>> exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or
>> something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws.
>> I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different
>> at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window
>> eyes users so we can get used to jaws.
>> 
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Re: question, when installing Jaws?

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

I had WE running up to when Jaws started talking then i  shut WE down. easy.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:34 AM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, when installing Jaws?

Hi Dave!

Not to certain of what others did, but I left Window-Eyes turned on
until I had the installation completed. It helped me through the process
which  made the process go much quicker! Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 09:52, David Pearson via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have 
to have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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Re: JAWS and the web

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

Wen i press jaws key and z brouse mode turns off.

-Original Message- 
From: John Covici via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:56 AM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: JAWS and the web

Jaws tech support said you could not turn forms mode on andoff
manually, escape will go back to virtual pc.  However insert-z turns
off virtual-pc, does not turn on forms mode, but it sort of works in
those cases where you have to do this.

On Fri, 19 May 2017 14:39:21 -0400,
Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote:


I've seen several questions regarding how you use JAWS on the web.  I just 
want to remind people of the Window-Eyes to JAWS tutorials that Raul 
developed.  There are 8 of them and they can be found on the Migrate page 
at:


http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/

The last one is specifically on web browsing.  Also, you may want to spend 
some time on the Surf's Up.  If you practice here, you'll go a long way to 
understanding and learning the various options on the web.  On the JAWS 
Headquarters, this page is found at:


http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm

Someone asked specifically how you manually turn on and off forms mode in 
Jaws.  That is answered her but specifically that can be found at:


http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm

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Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

es the first one is a pro version.
But when you ask for a home licence it says home when Jaws boots up.

-Original Message- 
From: Neville via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:30 AM
To: Loy via Talk ; Window Eyes
Subject: Re: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

Hi,
I visited the VFO site and there were 2 64 bit Jaws  versions available
for me.  One showed it was non-tandum while  the other did not mension
tandum at all so I assume that version had this capability.

There was no mention, that I could find anyway,that these were the
"Home" or "Pro"versions.

Is it only in the type of registration that indicates whether it is the
Home or Pro version?

Thanks
Neville.



On 20/05/2017 9:58 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
You can choose the professional or home edition. If you only use for home 
use, you should elect to get the home edition. Future updates are less 
expensive for home edition than for the Professional version.

   - Original Message -
   From: Jo Talliaferro via Talk
   To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:40 PM
   Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this


   Hello!

   I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over 
a week ago.  Last evening, I
   received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out 
whether I could have Jaws for
   home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure 
exactly what this means but it
   seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I 
would receive its equivalent in
   Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message 
being sent to others who are
   migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines 
have been strangely busy!

   Smile!

   Jo Taliaferro

   -Original Message-
   From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of BK via

   Talk
   Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
   To: AI Squared 
   Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

   I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
   6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical 
problems earlier in the week. She
   sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want 
to call again if you have been

   waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

   Butch
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RE: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

If you are unable to keep the sound, perhaps you can use different voices
for NVDA and JAWS.

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Sue J. Ward via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:51 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

  Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down 
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I 
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use 
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to 
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or 
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. 
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different 
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window 
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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RE: How Ironic!

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

I am so glad that you had Window Eyes to use as a fall back solution. I
think you have a prime reason to tell the Jaws people about how Window Eyes
could allow you to do your job at work while their Job Access With Speech,
could not. Perhaps if you can get hold of the right person in tech support,
they will fix that problem? You can but hope and try!

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:51 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: How Ironic!

This morning, our IT department pushed a bunch of security patches.  Guess
which one failed and guess what happened to JAWS?
 
I have Window-Eyes for Office installed and had it not been there, I
wouldn't have been able to perform essential work.
 
We had to start the process over again but in the meantime, JAWS is DOA.
Thank the ever-lovin' . for Window-Eyes.
 
Amanda Lee
 
 
 
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RE: JAWS and the web

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Hi Doug,

Thank you so much for kindly and graciously giving us this Jaws information.
I know it must be a bit gauling for you to give others advice about using a
product that was your strong competeter
I say here and now that you are a class act and do things like a true
gentleman. If I wore a hat, I would take it off to you! Smile.

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:39 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: JAWS and the web

I've seen several questions regarding how you use JAWS on the web.  I just
want to remind people of the Window-Eyes to JAWS tutorials that Raul
developed.  There are 8 of them and they can be found on the Migrate page
at:

http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/

The last one is specifically on web browsing.  Also, you may want to spend
some time on the Surf's Up.  If you practice here, you'll go a long way to
understanding and learning the various options on the web.  On the JAWS
Headquarters, this page is found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm

Someone asked specifically how you manually turn on and off forms mode in
Jaws.  That is answered her but specifically that can be found at:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm

Regards,
Doug Geoffray
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Saving a copy of Window Eyes

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

Hi all,

 

When I install Jaws, I want to remove Window Eyes from my computer, but I
don't want to get rid of it. I don't have a hard copy, so can I save it to a
cd before I uninstall it?

 

Paulette

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Re: question, when installing Jaws?

[net bat via Talk]

you don't want to do this. half the time the computer will crash with the blue 
screen of death. grin


-Original Message- 
From: michaeel's mail via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:14 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, when installing Jaws?

I had WE running up to when Jaws started talking then i  shut WE down. easy.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:34 AM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, when installing Jaws?

Hi Dave!

Not to certain of what others did, but I left Window-Eyes turned on
until I had the installation completed. It helped me through the process
which  made the process go much quicker! Good Luck! de

.


On 19-May-17 09:52, David Pearson via Talk wrote:

Hello list,

  I downloaded Jaws and now I have the .exe file. To install it, do I have to 
have window eyes turned off. Thanks for your help,


   Dave

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Re: Saving a copy of Window Eyes

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Why would you want to uninstall window-eyes?  Unless you're pressed for 
hard disk space, all you have to do is tell window-eyes not to run at 
startup. Personally, I will continue to run window-eyes as long as it 
does what I need it to do.  I'll take their free upgrade just so I have 
it, but window-eyes development may be gone, but the product still lives 
and works well.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


People are acting like window-eyes is all of a sudden this disease that 
has to be replaced with jaws.  Not for me.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 19 May 2017, Paulette 
Vickery via Talk wrote:



Hi all,



When I install Jaws, I want to remove Window Eyes from my computer, but I
don't want to get rid of it. I don't have a hard copy, so can I save it to a
cd before I uninstall it?



Paulette

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Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Joe Sontag via Talk]

Agreed!
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Ringwald via Talk" 
To: ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 13:43
Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!


> This is not a political List. Please stop the political comments. Take 
> them off-list.
>
> -Bob Ringwald
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Jim via Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:09 AM
> To: David Moore ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!
>
> I hate to tell you this, but if you believe that Trump is any more
> honest than Hillary is then I can sell you some prime ocean front
> property in Topeka KS!. Have A Good 1! de
>
> .
>
> On 19-May-17 01:45, David Moore via Talk wrote:
>> That is funny about Trump LOL!
>> Well, I always say that even intelligent people believe what they hear 
>> way too much without searching it for themselves. It has always amazed me 
>> just how gullible people really are LOL! People give money to crazy diets 
>> and the like. You can learn more concerning just about anything just by 
>> researching it yourself. You can save a lot of money. I found out about 
>> free NVDA screen reader, and I use it half of the time, now, with JAWS, 
>> but I am using JAWS less and less. Thinking with the Brain God gave you 
>> sure pays off sometimes LOL!
>> David Moore
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Shannon via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:52 PM
>> To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>> Thanks for that! I had to laugh at the Hillary comment. And I'm not 
>> taking it offensively or any other way just thought it was funny.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 18, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Loy via Talk  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Window Eyes is not dead, it was resurrected in the form of JAWS. And some 
>> people still think that Hillary was honest and upright.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Peter Duran via Talk
>>   To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:09 AM
>>   Subject: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!
>>
>>
>>   Well, now all of you officially know that Window-Eyes is really dead! 
>> But, why couldn’t most of  you (mostly well-educated and intelligent) 
>> folks figure that out for yourselves?
>>
>>   That is  by no means a silly question.  Analysis of news stories, by 
>> independent researchers, over the past 6 months reveal that smart people 
>> as well as stupid people embrace “fake news” with equal relish.  Why 
>> is that?
>>
>>   Also, lots of folks still believe that President Trump is “doing a 
>> good job” in spite of the fact that nothing has been really 
>> accomplished so far and that Trump apparently has no clue about the facts 
>> at hand.
>>
>>   It is an intriguing question, pondered by sociologists, why 
>> approximately half of the population, in any given community at any given 
>> time, will believe “crazy stuff” if asserted by a “figure of 
>> authority”.
>>
>>   Peter Duran
>>
>>
>>
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RE: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

>From what I understand, there should be  a way, but its within the script
manager to do so.
But nobody has written such. you can customize the startup message, ending
or shutdown message, and by the looks of things, there's should be the
script command to be written.

I personally don't know how to write jaws scripts as yet, its been a while
since I really touch that. if for other programming language, I might have a
chance to do so.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2017 3:19 AM
To: groov...@juno.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

JAWS will announce 'Unloading JAWS' when it unloads.  I haven't observed
there being available startup or shutdown sounds for JAWS.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sue J. Ward via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:51 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: window eyes shut down and start up sounds how to save those.

  Hello. Since I don't know if Jaws does have a start up and shut down 
sound how do I save the window eyes shut down and start up sounds so I 
maybe could use them with jaws? I like those, cause if I need to use 
NVDA for something, then after am done with using NVDA I would have to 
exit NVDA then start up jaws again I want to at least save a sound or 
something so I can tell what is going on whenever I load or unload jaws. 
I have not migrated to jaws as of yet, but it sounds easy and different 
at the same time. Hope there will be more podcasts out for us window 
eyes users so we can get used to jaws.

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RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

I waited to be around 8:29am, call up and be the first caller with this
lady, Elizabeth. She help me to key in the data I wanted, and an hour later,
I got the email to activate jaws 18.

I am not sure the major differences between the home or the pro of jaws, but
I go for pro as I uses jaws mainly for work.
If you are use mainly at home, nothing to do with network, or what so ever
in the corperate environment, I should be safe to say, you can get the home
edition.



regards
Thomas N. Chan 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Jo Talliaferro via Talk
Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2017 7:40 AM
To: 'BK' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

Hello!

I submitted an online form requesting a license to migrate to Jaws over a
week ago.  Last evening, I
received a response saying that the VFO Group would have to figure out
whether I could have Jaws for
home users or Jaws professional for work or school.   I'm not sure exactly
what this means but it
seems that since I have Window-Eyes p039201926,(WE Professional) I would
receive its equivalent in
Jaws.   I have one SMA remaining and have not heard of this message being
sent to others who are
migrating to Jaws!  Perhaps a phone call is in order but phone lines have
been strangely busy!
Smile!

Jo Taliaferro

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of BK via
Talk
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:31 PM
To: AI Squared 
Subject: if you have been waiting for your license, read this

I first called VFO on tuesday and requested my license. On Friday about
6:30 I called VFO again, and the rep said VFO had some technical problems
earlier in the week. She
sent my license while I was still on the phone with her. You may want to
call again if you have been
waiting for more than a day or so. HTH.

Butch
--
BK 

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