Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-13 Thread Warren Logan via Talk


I really do hope that these issues are fixed in the next version of 
Window-eyes. Internet Explorer is the only browser I can tell that 
Window-eyes truely likes when it comes to reading text heavy webpages. 
Chrome seems to be a little worse than firefox, especially on this page. 
I've loaded the same page in NVDA and there are none of these issues. 
Maximizing does nothing to fix it for me.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=6cad=rjauact=8ved=0CEQQFjAFahUKEwifuJqB04zGAhWMTZIKHXGrAGUurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.makeuseof.com%2Ftag%2Ftrick-websites-changing-user-agent-chrome%2Fei=Ah98VZ-vCYybyQTx1oKoBgusg=AFQjCNH73G4zm0LrK5ZXhLtLR4yL9-AIWQsig2=Z1Kg1R_PQBtJ5HZuBSsNYQ

I look forward to hopefully seeing a new Window-eyes in the near future.

On 6/8/2015 1:04 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy:
The first one is a bug fix.  I find that when I am reading an email in
my gmail account using Google Chrome, some of the characters at the
beginning of some lines are omited, so that I am getting words with
the first letter chopped off.  It is a little tricky because it does
not always happen, but it happens enough to be annoying.
The other thing that I would like to see is to bring back the keyboard
mouse support for Firefox and Google Chrome.  I don't like using
Internet Explorer because it is too slow, but there are ocations when
I need to read something on the page in detale and it is inconvenient
without the mouse support.
Kevin Huber


On 5/28/15, Jeremy Curry via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-08 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Jeremy:
The first one is a bug fix.  I find that when I am reading an email in
my gmail account using Google Chrome, some of the characters at the
beginning of some lines are omited, so that I am getting words with
the first letter chopped off.  It is a little tricky because it does
not always happen, but it happens enough to be annoying.
The other thing that I would like to see is to bring back the keyboard
mouse support for Firefox and Google Chrome.  I don't like using
Internet Explorer because it is too slow, but there are ocations when
I need to read something on the page in detale and it is inconvenient
without the mouse support.
Kevin Huber


On 5/28/15, Jeremy Curry via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-06 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
And what would you copy Chris for 32-bit Windows?  Or do these work
regardless?

Thanks.

Chip


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lists3717=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:08 AM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

If you have a 9 or 9.1 cd you can insert it and run the mobile installer
from advance.

If not you'll need to copy the below files to the folder where wineyes is
located on your SD card/thumb drive, for example f:\wineyes.
C:\Windows\System32\gwhk64.dll
And
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\gwmhook.dll


Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 1:14 AM
To: clark drew; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I don't think that would work, it MIGHT work if you copieed the whole
directory rather than just the one file -- I have never done it that
way, but you could try.

clark drew via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Hi,
 but until now, i still unable to use wineyes portabilly. i followed
 steps to create one, but each time i enter on wineyes.exe, some
 components are needed. (something like that). i don't have wineyes CD
 so cannot use the advance options and install window eyes mobbile,
 so i use the copy paste method. copy c:\program files\gw micro\window
 eyes and %appdata%\gw micro\window eyes\users\default to a folder and
 then run wineyes.exe. on another machine of course, and error!
 any idea?
 
 
 On 6/5/2015 1:59 AM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
  Hi David,
 
  Regarding 1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb
drive without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is
already possible, please let me know, this functionality already exists.
If memory serves, we added this in version 8 when we started adding UIA
support.  Since the video intercept doesn't install, you will not get
anything from the OSM, but other items will still read.
 
  Hope this helps and thanks to everyone for all of the feedback.  Even if
we do not respond to each request, be assured that we are reading all of
these responses.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jeremy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of David Goldfield via Talk
  Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:23 AM
  To: Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input
 
  Here are my ideas/requests for possible Window-Eyes enhancements.
  1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive
without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is
already possible, please let me know.
  2. An offline dictionary with thesaurus. I realize that some people will
passionately disagree with this request by saying that this is not a
screen-reader specific feature and that we have many online options for word
definitions and synonyms. These statements are all true and so there's no
need to debate that. However, this is something that would still make
Window-Eyes not only useful but unique as I don't believe this is available
in other Windows screen readers. This could be an optional component to be
installed and, like the Mac, could be globally available, even without an
Internet connection. I could envision being in a Word document or a Web
page, placing the cursor on a word without the need to highlight it first
and being able to look up definitions and such with the press of a hotkey.
Again, perhaps this is hardly necessary but it would make Window-Eyes stand
out from the competition.
  3. The ability to enter BIOs/Uefi settings and have them accessible.
  Maybe it's not possible. However, some might have concluded that screen
readers would never be able to talk in safe mode and Window-Eyes can offer
that capability, which is one of the things which makes it truly unique and
which makes it stand apart from its competition. If AI Squared could offer
this feature you'd be able to do this even more.
 
  And if I may sneak in a fourth idea ...
 
  4. Could we please have built-in voices from other text-to-speech
vendors, such as Ivona or A Capella? This is totally irrational but as much
as I don't mind Samantha on my iPhone I don't care for her as much on my
Windows PC and I'd like to see some additional alternatives.
 
  Thanks for asking for our input.
 
 
 
  Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a
persecuted Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu
Feel free to visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info
 
 David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
 
  On 5/29/2015 2:58 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk

RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-05 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
If you have a 9 or 9.1 cd you can insert it and run the mobile installer from 
advance.

If not you'll need to copy the below files to the folder where wineyes is 
located on your SD card/thumb drive, for example f:\wineyes.
C:\Windows\System32\gwhk64.dll
And
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\gwmhook.dll


Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 1:14 AM
To: clark drew; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I don't think that would work, it MIGHT work if you copieed the whole
directory rather than just the one file -- I have never done it that
way, but you could try.

clark drew via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Hi,
 but until now, i still unable to use wineyes portabilly. i followed
 steps to create one, but each time i enter on wineyes.exe, some
 components are needed. (something like that). i don't have wineyes CD
 so cannot use the advance options and install window eyes mobbile,
 so i use the copy paste method. copy c:\program files\gw micro\window
 eyes and %appdata%\gw micro\window eyes\users\default to a folder and
 then run wineyes.exe. on another machine of course, and error!
 any idea?
 
 
 On 6/5/2015 1:59 AM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
  Hi David,
 
  Regarding 1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb 
  drive without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is 
  already possible, please let me know, this functionality already exists.  
  If memory serves, we added this in version 8 when we started adding UIA 
  support.  Since the video intercept doesn't install, you will not get 
  anything from the OSM, but other items will still read.
 
  Hope this helps and thanks to everyone for all of the feedback.  Even if we 
  do not respond to each request, be assured that we are reading all of these 
  responses.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jeremy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
  On Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
  Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:23 AM
  To: Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input
 
  Here are my ideas/requests for possible Window-Eyes enhancements.
  1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive without 
  the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is already 
  possible, please let me know.
  2. An offline dictionary with thesaurus. I realize that some people will 
  passionately disagree with this request by saying that this is not a 
  screen-reader specific feature and that we have many online options for 
  word definitions and synonyms. These statements are all true and so there's 
  no need to debate that. However, this is something that would still make 
  Window-Eyes not only useful but unique as I don't believe this is available 
  in other Windows screen readers. This could be an optional component to be 
  installed and, like the Mac, could be globally available, even without an 
  Internet connection. I could envision being in a Word document or a Web 
  page, placing the cursor on a word without the need to highlight it first 
  and being able to look up definitions and such with the press of a hotkey. 
  Again, perhaps this is hardly necessary but it would make Window-Eyes stand 
  out from the competition.
  3. The ability to enter BIOs/Uefi settings and have them accessible.
  Maybe it's not possible. However, some might have concluded that screen 
  readers would never be able to talk in safe mode and Window-Eyes can offer 
  that capability, which is one of the things which makes it truly unique and 
  which makes it stand apart from its competition. If AI Squared could offer 
  this feature you'd be able to do this even more.
 
  And if I may sneak in a fourth idea ...
 
  4. Could we please have built-in voices from other text-to-speech vendors, 
  such as Ivona or A Capella? This is totally irrational but as much as I 
  don't mind Samantha on my iPhone I don't care for her as much on my Windows 
  PC and I'd like to see some additional alternatives.
 
  Thanks for asking for our input.
 
 
 
  Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted 
  Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free 
  to visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info
 
 David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist
 
  On 5/29/2015 2:58 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:
  Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
  reader V11 and V12 respectively.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
  [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  Behalf Of Don H via Talk

RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-04 Thread Jeremy Curry via Talk
Hi David,

Regarding 1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive 
without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is already 
possible, please let me know, this functionality already exists.  If memory 
serves, we added this in version 8 when we started adding UIA support.  Since 
the video intercept doesn't install, you will not get anything from the OSM, 
but other items will still read.

Hope this helps and thanks to everyone for all of the feedback.  Even if we do 
not respond to each request, be assured that we are reading all of these 
responses.

Thanks,

Jeremy

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:23 AM
To: Micallef Michael at FITA; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Here are my ideas/requests for possible Window-Eyes enhancements.
1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive without the 
need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is already possible, 
please let me know.
2. An offline dictionary with thesaurus. I realize that some people will 
passionately disagree with this request by saying that this is not a 
screen-reader specific feature and that we have many online options for word 
definitions and synonyms. These statements are all true and so there's no need 
to debate that. However, this is something that would still make Window-Eyes 
not only useful but unique as I don't believe this is available in other 
Windows screen readers. This could be an optional component to be installed 
and, like the Mac, could be globally available, even without an Internet 
connection. I could envision being in a Word document or a Web page, placing 
the cursor on a word without the need to highlight it first and being able to 
look up definitions and such with the press of a hotkey. Again, perhaps this is 
hardly necessary but it would make Window-Eyes stand out from the competition.
3. The ability to enter BIOs/Uefi settings and have them accessible. 
Maybe it's not possible. However, some might have concluded that screen readers 
would never be able to talk in safe mode and Window-Eyes can offer that 
capability, which is one of the things which makes it truly unique and which 
makes it stand apart from its competition. If AI Squared could offer this 
feature you'd be able to do this even more.

And if I may sneak in a fourth idea ...

4. Could we please have built-in voices from other text-to-speech vendors, such 
as Ivona or A Capella? This is totally irrational but as much as I don't mind 
Samantha on my iPhone I don't care for her as much on my Windows PC and I'd 
like to see some additional alternatives.

Thanks for asking for our input.



Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted 
Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free to 
visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/29/2015 2:58 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:
 Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
 reader V11 and V12 respectively.

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk 
 [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
 Behalf Of Don H via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
 To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

 A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.

 On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-04 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
It's interesting that whenever I go to a site where I have to fill out
and submit a form, I often have to switch from JAWS to WE to get the
task done. Sometimes JAWS can't even see a form on a page that is
obviously there. Sometimes JAWS will say that there is a button, but
does nothing when you try to activate it. I recall that years ago AT
trainers always suggested that you be accomplished in the use of at
least two screen readers, and I guess that this advice is still true
today.

Andy


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From: Talk
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Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

finish making w e accessible with firefox.
i can not open the bookmark list with control i unless i turn autoload
and browse mode off before i open it or else w e and firefox will hang
for over
30 seconds or firefox will crash. this doesn't happen at all with nvda
or narrator and win7 64 bit.
when useing the w e find command the find gets stuck on the same word it
finds until i arrow past the search word then the insert f keys will go
to the next acurrance of the search word. otherwise w e will stay on the
same one.

with shop.safeway.com.
this same site use to work fine before the browse mode rewrite.
after searching for a item with firefox i can not get the dollar amount
of the item. w e only sees the word price but not the dollar amount
unless i turn browse mode off while i am still on the description of the
item. then tab to the price. then it will see the dollar amount. then i
have to turn browse mode back on before i can go to the next item in the
list. over and over again.
this does not happen with nvda.
but i do not want to have to keep switching screen readers every time i
go to a web page that w e 9.1 will not work on. 

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-04 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
You'll need to provide some details to get to the place on safeway which you 
are having a problem with.  For instance, a zipcode which lets you in would be 
a good start, but also, what are you then choosing?  Which links, to see what?

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

finish making w e accessible with firefox.
i can not open the bookmark list with control i unless i turn autoload and 
browse mode off before i open it or else w e and firefox will hang for over 
30 seconds or firefox will crash. this doesn't happen at all with nvda or 
narrator and win7 64 bit.
when useing the w e find command the find gets stuck on the same word it 
finds until i arrow past the search word then the insert f keys will go to 
the next acurrance of the search word. otherwise w e will stay on the same 
one.

with shop.safeway.com.
this same site use to work fine before the browse mode rewrite.
after searching for a item with firefox i can not get the dollar amount of 
the item. w e only sees the word price but not the dollar amount unless i 
turn browse mode off while i am still on the description of the item. then 
tab to the price. then it will see the dollar amount. then i have to turn 
browse mode back on before i can go to the next item in the list. over and 
over again.
this does not happen with nvda.
but i do not want to have to keep switching screen readers every time i go 
to a web page that w e 9.1 will not work on. 

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-03 Thread net bat via Talk

finish making w e accessible with firefox.
i can not open the bookmark list with control i unless i turn autoload and 
browse mode off before i open it or else w e and firefox will hang for over 
30 seconds or firefox will crash. this doesn't happen at all with nvda or 
narrator and win7 64 bit.
when useing the w e find command the find gets stuck on the same word it 
finds until i arrow past the search word then the insert f keys will go to 
the next acurrance of the search word. otherwise w e will stay on the same 
one.


with shop.safeway.com.
this same site use to work fine before the browse mode rewrite.
after searching for a item with firefox i can not get the dollar amount of 
the item. w e only sees the word price but not the dollar amount unless i 
turn browse mode off while i am still on the description of the item. then 
tab to the price. then it will see the dollar amount. then i have to turn 
browse mode back on before i can go to the next item in the list. over and 
over again.

this does not happen with nvda.
but i do not want to have to keep switching screen readers every time i go 
to a web page that w e 9.1 will not work on. 


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-03 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

Hello Jeremy:

You wrote:

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Sorry, I'm a bit late to this thread; nevertheless, I have the following 
suggestions:


1.  Please explore the prospects of porting Window-Eyes to the Android 
platform as an alternative screen reader to Google Talkback.  Perhaps this 
is asking for much too much, but if Window-Eyes could be a mobile screen 
reader on this platform, it would certainly open a brand-new world of 
unparalelled accessibility and will enable Window-Eyes to spread its 
tentacles by giving Android users more screen reading choices.  ShinePlus is 
a new entrant in this respect, can Window-Eyes be second?


2.  Some of us are entrepreneurs; we run our own retail establishments 
swiping credit cards, trying to accept electronic checks the same way 
Walmart does it, and lots more.  Could GW Micro/AI Squared look into MAKING 
AT LEAST ONE POINT-OF-SALE SOFTWARE accessible?


.  3.  How about providing access to Coral's Word Perfectr so we are now 
just stuck with the status quo?


Thank you very, very much.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 



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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-03 Thread Marvin Commerford via Talk
Alt-b is the FF hotkey for bookmarks.  It works like a champ and has for 
many years.


On 6/3/2015 6:10 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

finish making w e accessible with firefox.
i can not open the bookmark list with control i unless i turn autoload
and browse mode off before i open it or else w e and firefox will hang
for over 30 seconds or firefox will crash. this doesn't happen at all
with nvda or narrator and win7 64 bit.
when useing the w e find command the find gets stuck on the same word it
finds until i arrow past the search word then the insert f keys will go
to the next acurrance of the search word. otherwise w e will stay on the
same one.

with shop.safeway.com.
this same site use to work fine before the browse mode rewrite.
after searching for a item with firefox i can not get the dollar amount
of the item. w e only sees the word price but not the dollar amount
unless i turn browse mode off while i am still on the description of the
item. then tab to the price. then it will see the dollar amount. then i
have to turn browse mode back on before i can go to the next item in the
list. over and over again.
this does not happen with nvda.
but i do not want to have to keep switching screen readers every time i
go to a web page that w e 9.1 will not work on.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Hi friends, 

Just to remind everyone that for those who use Firefox, there is a good plugin 
service called: www.webvisum.com and it works very well for me. And this solves 
the captcha problem.
Pity that the same service is not available for Internet Exploder!
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Richard G Applegate via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 02 June 2015 00:07
To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'David Goldfield'; 'Tom 
Fairhurst'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

  Don't you think someone would have already monetized or implemented an OCR 
solution to solving captchas if such was possible, or practical?
  The point of captchas is to prevent a machine from posing as a human.



-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:27 AM
To: 'David Goldfield'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Tom Fairhurst'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Indeed! I took much time to write a program to manage my stock brokerage 
account e*trade, from the desktop per their suggestions about accessibility.
After much work and during my first test instead of entering my id and password 
they popped up a captcha in addition so that puppy was put to sleep.
I cant read them and 90 percent of the time cant pick out which letters and 
numbers from the garbled speech if there is even a speech option for the 
captcha.
I was allot more annoyed since they told me creating my own UI interface using 
their API would be a good thing and, if no captcha, would indeed have been a 
good thing for blind users of e*trade.
Other places around the net use them and I just don't make use of their 
services but that limits my ability to get things done in a prudant and, or, 
efficient manner.
If there was an automated captcha handler, that would open up these situations 
for use by the blind who have trouble with captchas.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It would 
really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.

Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted 
Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free to 
visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
 Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
 and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
 IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
 priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
 I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved 
 around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal.
 Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
 while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
 but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the 
 web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
 anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
 can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
 visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
 Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
 acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
 can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just 
 frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three
 priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and 
 use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
 Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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email; was RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
Pam, do you have access to any other pc where you could try it with 8gb of ram? 
 WE sometimes has problems with email, but I don't think it's due to memory or 
the lack there of.

I'd suggest, if this really bothers you, that you find some other email package 
and try it for a while.  I use Outlook myself, but perhaps others here can 
recommend better free email.

Chip





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Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 9:48 AM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

I do have 8gb ram on this tower, but when I get email coming in while I am 
already reading or writing a message, window eyes stops talking.  If I am 
reading a message, I have to escape out of the message and enter on it all 
over again to read it.  If I am writing one, speech stops and I can't proof 
what I am writing.  I am using windows live mail.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 5:53 PM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Well, I don't have 8GB RAM on any computer and, Window-Eyes is NOT crashing!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I have been on googlegroups lists, and I don't have a google account of any 
kind.  I have subscribed in the normal way, whatever the way is that I was 
given when I subscribed, by sending the email.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 1:35 PM
To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

You don't need a GMAIL account, but you need a Google account.
Otherwise, you can write to the mod and ask that they manually subscribe
you.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 7:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are
considered expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and
I think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I
mention not needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on
Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such
lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you
what you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note
the plus sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office
0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium
64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook and
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RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
I really suspect crashing is most often a function of a difficult to detect 
trojan virus/malware.  This means you may have to try several solutions in 
order to come up with a really clean system.

I've been using trojan killer lately, as it has a high reputation for finding 
the very difficult to detect trojans, in combination with the Microsoft 
Security Essentials (or Windows Defender).  Malware Bytes is also highly rated, 
but many articles say it doesn't catch everything.

Next suggestion would be to scan the disk for file errors.  If you've had and 
removed several infections, you may need to reinstall Windows in order to get 
undamaged Windows components (especially if you've upgraded your Windows).

Memory in my opinion, above 4gb, may just possibly make things run faster, but 
does nothing for preventing crashes; that's why virtual memory was created, to 
compensate for any lack of memory.


Hth,


Chip





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850-413-6314



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 5:53 PM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Well, I don't have 8GB RAM on any computer and, Window-Eyes is NOT crashing!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
Yes, me also.

Chip





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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:54 PM
To: Baracco, Andrew W; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

This may be recommended but I use Window Eyes and ZoomText with 4 GB and all 
works well.
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: Karyn Campbell karyn1...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input


 The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
 impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
 GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
 facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
 on all systems, no exceptions.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

 Hello all,

 To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
 1. What antivirus package are you running?
 2. How much RAM does your machine have?

 These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
 was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
 crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
 performance as a result.

 Thanks.

 Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
 Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
 with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
Pam,

Yes, that works ok; but if you try to subscribe via the Google group viewing 
interface web page, and even more so if you try to be a group creator, it is 
quite difficult and/or not possible, depending on who you ask.




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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 8:05 AM
To: Baracco, Andrew W; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

I have been on googlegroups lists, and I don't have a google account of any 
kind.  I have subscribed in the normal way, whatever the way is that I was 
given when I subscribed, by sending the email.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 1:35 PM
To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

You don't need a GMAIL account, but you need a Google account.
Otherwise, you can write to the mod and ask that they manually subscribe
you.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 7:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are
considered expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and
I think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I
mention not needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on
Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such
lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you
what you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note
the plus sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office
0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium
64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook and
Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.




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Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-02 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I do have 8gb ram on this tower, but when I get email coming in while I am 
already reading or writing a message, window eyes stops talking.  If I am 
reading a message, I have to escape out of the message and enter on it all 
over again to read it.  If I am writing one, speech stops and I can't proof 
what I am writing.  I am using windows live mail.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 5:53 PM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Well, I don't have 8GB RAM on any computer and, Window-Eyes is NOT crashing!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Indeed! I took much time to write a program to manage my stock brokerage
account e*trade, from the desktop per their suggestions about accessibility.
After much work and during my first test instead of entering my id and
password they popped up a captcha in addition so that puppy was put to
sleep.
I cant read them and 90 percent of the time cant pick out which letters and
numbers from the garbled speech if there is even a speech option for the
captcha.
I was allot more annoyed since they told me creating my own UI interface
using their API would be a good thing and, if no captcha, would indeed have
been a good thing for blind users of e*trade.
Other places around the net use them and I just don't make use of their
services but that limits my ability to get things done in a prudant and, or,
efficient manner.
If there was an automated captcha handler, that would open up these
situations for use by the blind who have trouble with captchas.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It 
would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.

Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted
Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States
http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu
Feel free to visit my Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
 Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
 and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
 IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
 priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
 I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved 
 around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. 
 Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
 while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
 but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the 
 web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
 anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
 can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
 visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
 Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
 acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
 can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just 
 frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three 
 priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and 
 use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
 Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
on all systems, no exceptions.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Hello all,

To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
1. What antivirus package are you running?
2. How much RAM does your machine have?

These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
performance as a result.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
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Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Loy via Talk
This may be recommended but I use Window Eyes and ZoomText with 4 GB and all 
works well.
- Original Message - 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: Karyn Campbell karyn1...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input



The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
on all systems, no exceptions.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Hello all,

To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
1. What antivirus package are you running?
2. How much RAM does your machine have?

These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
performance as a result.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
of RAM and Macaffee Live Safe on the HP Pavilion.




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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
As a note of interest, Bookshare has books from  O'Reilly Media.  This is 
where I got the ones I needed for my ipad mini and ipod touch.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:11 PM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and that
I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone yesterday, I
think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I
haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them
yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in Internet
Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will pull up a
web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs
and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I
press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't
talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one
can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help
visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the
Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on
a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference
manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an
utter failure. Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web access
including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including
captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a
message.

-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Oh sure; you don't need a gmail account in order to get on lists that are on 
google groups.  But I didn't realize that was the question.  But I do know 
of people who have lists on google groups and when they want to do things 
with the lists, they have to sometimes get sighted people to help them. 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Karyn Campbell via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Window-Eyes 
Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are considered
expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and I
think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I mention not
needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you what
you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note the plus
sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE 9.1  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit
with Office 0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
You need a Google account if you want to manage your subscription using
the web interface. Otherwise, you will need to contact the mod any time
you want to make a change, i. e. going nomail, etc.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 6:51 AM
To: Karyn Campbell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Oh sure; you don't need a gmail account in order to get on lists that
are on google groups.  But I didn't realize that was the question.  But
I do know of people who have lists on google groups and when they want
to do things with the lists, they have to sometimes get sighted people
to help them. 
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are
considered expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and
I think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I
mention not needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on
Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such
lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you
what you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note
the plus sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office
0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium
64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook and
Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.




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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
I used to administer, or attempt to administer, several lists on Google
Groups.  The interface is not very accessible, in fact, I don't believe I
could do it with WE, had to use JFW.


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Facebook: www.facebook.com/packerbackerray



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ray153056=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 8:51 AM
To: Karyn Campbell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Oh sure; you don't need a gmail account in order to get on lists that are on
google groups.  But I didn't realize that was the question.  But I do know
of people who have lists on google groups and when they want to do things
with the lists, they have to sometimes get sighted people to help them. 
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are considered
expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and I
think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I mention not
needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you what
you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note the plus
sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office 0137
and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook and Macaffee
Live Safe on HP Pavilion.




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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
But I do understand the desire to get on the Viphone list. Even though
it is a very high traffic list, all the blind iPhone gurus are there. If
you ask a question, you will get answers, and they will be good answers.
The folks there really know the I devices well.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:53 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

Hi Tom,

Regarding the IPhone, or anything Apple, may I suggest the forums on
Http://www.applevis.com, and signing up for any of their forums is easy,
as is signing up for an account, not to mention the fact that there is a
ton of info without signing up first.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:12 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and
that

I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone
yesterday, I

think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I
haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them
yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in
Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will
pull up a web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to
other programs

and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when
I press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you
can't talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke
when one can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed
to help visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for
reading Epubs--the

Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can
get on

a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference
manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an
utter failure. Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web
access including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities
including captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or
replying to a message.

-Original Message- 
 From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you

could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen

reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
This is true, as I have the same issues when I use JAWS.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:38 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

From what I am told, the problem with googlegroups doesn't have to do
with window eyes, it has to do with google.  Other people who don't have
window eyes have had to get sighted people to do stuf for them on the
google site. 
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:11 PM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and
that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone
yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high priority. Also
I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the
list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some
degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and
then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze while loading. I
can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't
read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the web address will be
read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with anyone at Google about
Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one can't even create an account
to get on a list that is supposed to help visually-impaired people. Oh
yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I
can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on a mailing list
to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference manual. Sorry
for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure.
Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web access including
improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha
solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a
message.

-Original Message- 
 From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to
our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
That might be illegal!

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It
would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.

Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a
persecuted Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States
http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free to visit my Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
 Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
 and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
 IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
 priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
 I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved

 around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal.
 Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
 while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
 but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the

 web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
 anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
 can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help

 visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
 Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
 acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
 can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just

 frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three
 priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and

 use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
 Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
You don't need a GMAIL account, but you need a Google account.
Otherwise, you can write to the mod and ask that they manually subscribe
you.

Andy


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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 7:00 PM
To: 'Tom Fairhurst'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Seeking Your Input

As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are
considered expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and
I think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I
mention not needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on
Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such
lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you
what you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note
the plus sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office
0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium
64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook and
Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.




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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Regarding Ms Word, I contend that one should stick with whatever is working!
No need grabbing every new copy that pops up.  I've been using Ms Office
2007 forever and, unless it dies, that's what I'll continue using.

I too detest the fact that Window-Eyes and other screen readers barely care
about providing accessibility to other word processors.  However, the
developers will tell you that development resources are limited and,
besides, the blind public DOES NOT use those other word processors except
Microsoft Word.  


So, not to worry, we'll always be stuck with Ms Office!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado
  


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Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Heidi via Talk
Andrew, this might be why my system keeps crashing with we

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 1, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Baracco, Andrew W via Talk 
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 
 The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
 impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
 GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
 facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
 on all systems, no exceptions.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input
 
 Hello all,
 
 To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
 1. What antivirus package are you running?
 2. How much RAM does your machine have?
 
 These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
 was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
 crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
 performance as a result.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
 Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
 with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
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RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Well, I don't have 8GB RAM on any computer and, Window-Eyes is NOT crashing!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Richard G Applegate via Talk
  Don't you think someone would have already monetized or implemented an OCR 
solution to solving captchas if such was possible, or practical?
  The point of captchas is to prevent a machine from posing as a human.



-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:27 AM
To: 'David Goldfield'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Tom Fairhurst'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Indeed! I took much time to write a program to manage my stock brokerage
account e*trade, from the desktop per their suggestions about accessibility.
After much work and during my first test instead of entering my id and
password they popped up a captcha in addition so that puppy was put to
sleep.
I cant read them and 90 percent of the time cant pick out which letters and
numbers from the garbled speech if there is even a speech option for the
captcha.
I was allot more annoyed since they told me creating my own UI interface
using their API would be a good thing and, if no captcha, would indeed have
been a good thing for blind users of e*trade.
Other places around the net use them and I just don't make use of their
services but that limits my ability to get things done in a prudant and, or,
efficient manner.
If there was an automated captcha handler, that would open up these
situations for use by the blind who have trouble with captchas.
Rick USA
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It 
would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.

Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted
Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States
http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu
Feel free to visit my Web site
http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
 Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
 and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
 IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
 priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
 I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved 
 around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. 
 Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
 while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
 but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the 
 web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
 anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
 can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
 visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
 Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
 acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
 can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just 
 frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three 
 priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and 
 use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
 Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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Re: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
My experience so far is that 4 GB is enough RM. When things are running 
normally with not too many programs running (but 65 to 80 processes), you're 
using less than 2 GB of RAM. Doesn't matter whether this is with 
Wiindow-Eyes, JAWS or NVDA. 8 GB would provide some insurance, especially if 
you leave your computer running for days at a time, but I don't think it's a 
big deal. But 2 GB isn't enough these days. Just my experience. YMMV.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:11 PM
To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
on all systems, no exceptions.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Hello all,

To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
1. What antivirus package are you running?
2. How much RAM does your machine have?

These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
performance as a result.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
of RAM and Macaffee Live Safe on the HP Pavilion.




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RE: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-06-01 Thread Dave via Talk

Hello Andy,

I am very surprised that any systems are limited to only 4GB or 
memory.  That is not very much memory for Vista, Win 7, or Win 8.


Perhaps memory is an issue, since the machine I keep getting the 
troubles only has 6 GB of memory.


Perhaps Win eyes likes 8 or more?

At 09:11 AM 6/1/2015, you wrote:

The Section 508 compliance office for the VA recommends that visually
impaired computer users using screen access software have a minimum of 8
GB RAM in their systems. This is an issue that I am fighting with my
facility because our IT department has a policy of maximum of 4 GB RAM
on all systems, no exceptions.

Andy


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:42 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] WE crashing was RE: Seeking Your Input

Hello all,

To those who say they are having crashing issues, I ask two questions:
1. What antivirus package are you running?
2. How much RAM does your machine have?

These are important questions as they can go to some of these issues.  I
was running Vipre on my netbook which slowed down the system and cause
crashing issues.  I no longer run Vipre and am getting better
performance as a result.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.1  on HP
Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 32-bit with Office 2013
and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home premium 64-bit
with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on netbook with 2 gb
of RAM and Macaffee Live Safe on the HP Pavilion.




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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk
Well in spartom prodject fire fox plug-ins will work.  I think the most
important things for window-eyes is to support that web browser as soon as
it become a stationary target.
Second window-eyes is the only screen reader at the moment that does not
support touch.  Window-eyes needs to support touch. 
All these other ideas are nice and fine but with out touch support
window-eyes is behind everyone else.  I am sure that the issue is being
studied and when we finely get touch support it will be better then the
rest. 
Finely window-eyes really needs to do a better job hooking the keyboard.
For example in windows explorer command for shift insert can not be defined
because if you issue these commands the paste command is performed instead.
In outlook the new message command is performed instead of the shift insert
command. Capslock should be its own prefix verces just being another insert
key.   Numpad insert and the insert key should be treated as separate keys
as should left windows and right windows. 
3rd party tools.
Screen ocr should be added as a add-on app that gets installed with
window-eyes. Support for skype really needs improvement.  I should be able
to use skype in what ever interface.  Keys for accessing the most important
parts of the skype window should be added.

In windows explorer keyboard commands to read headers should be added. 

In the brows enhanced  app place markers should work as expected.  The
ability to read the name of the document loaded should be added as well as
reading the line of text the browser is on should be added.  And example 
Please log in document.
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
Downloadable Books and Magazines 
I have window-eyes set to read nothing because I don't want the whole page
read as a page loads.  I don't want the first 24 lines.  I just want to know
what page I am on and the line of text I am on.  As it stands now I get no
information at all. 

Minor window-eyes changes.
Smart message box reading.  I don't want a whole message  box read.  I also
most of the time want to hear more information then just the name of the
dialog   and the focus button.  I want the name the text relating to the
message and the focused button. 
For example.  Delete Multiple Items
Are you sure you want to permanently delete these 11 items?
Yes button. 
The ability to read heading level after name would save a whole bunch of
time.  the ability to read controls  as you can in braille feeld name classe
type class state feeld data.  Make the buttons also see that the name of the
button is not read as data but name.  this is correct verces reading it as
data.  Yes for example is not data you can't change it it is the name of the
object not its data.  
Correct the reading of tab controls. When you press the control  tab key the
name of the tab that is active should be read then the name of the object
that has focus should be read.  At the moment when using control tab you
don't know what tab you have moved to. You can see an example of this in the
sounds window in the control  panel.  An app to allow quick access to tabs.
For example if you need tab 3 you could press control  3 to access the 3rd
tab in the page tab list. 
The f8 command working in brows mode is cool but the ability to use normal
windows commands for copying text would be nice. 
Thanks for reading.  

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 5:46 PM
To: 'Ray Campbell'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Hi Jeremy,

I echo Ray's statements below. I'll add one more web site or component and
that's instant teleseminar, and go to webinar. So much is done these days
using these tools, and it's just not accessible as far as the interaction
with the host. So we can't enter questions to ask, or interact via chat
features, or read the info the host posts such as a simple web link.

The ocr feature is definitely necessary for captcha in ie, and other
clickable images. Webvisum is only for firefox and there needs to be a
reliable ocr feature for IE and FF that's not dependent on a third party
tool. Any time our work productivity depends on a third party rather than
remaining mostly in our own control, that hampers our own work performance.

I'd like notification when a web page has been updated. So based on in page
links or some part of a form that requires user input, after that data has
been entered, I'd like verbal notification of what has changed on that web
page. Right now, it seems like we have to scroll back up the page to find
out what if anything has changed.

Thanks for listening.


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On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:18 PM
To: 'Jeremy Curry'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your

Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread David Goldfield via Talk
I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It 
would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.


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On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved 
around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. 
Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the 
web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just 
frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three 
priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and 
use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.


-Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and that 
I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone yesterday, I 
think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I 
haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them 
yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in Internet 
Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will pull up a 
web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs 
and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I 
press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't 
talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the 
Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on 
a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference 
manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an 
utter failure. Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web access 
including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including 
captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a 
message.


-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk
The problem with fixing Eudora is this product is no longer even being
supported or developed  any more. If this is just a problem in this program
I don't see a whole lot of time or  being spent on the problem. resources 

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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I agree with those who would like more stability and not losing speech and
crashing so often.
Also, a small matter that I think would only benefit  a small number of us
and that is to have Eudora read the graphics again as it used to without
having to unload and reload Eudora every time it is used.
Thanks for a great product.At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk
I think this would be a good feature.  I question if it should be a part of
window-eyes it self.  An external app to solve these and another or the same
to perform ocr.  This way when the app needs updating it could be updated
from the apps page when you start the program. That is one of the wonderful
things about window-eyes apps you can add features with out having to code
it directly in to the program.  Such an app will probably need regular
updating and the window-eyes update cycle is not robust enough to acomadate
such an app.  Just like if you wanted a research tool having it as an
external app would be better.  lets take a look at how other screen readers
handel this.  Many of the updates have to do with keeping the tools working
as they should.  If this was done as an app it could be updated with out
having to update the whole program.  


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[mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:17 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It
would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition.

Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted
Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free
to visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info

  David Goldfield,
 Assistive Technology Specialist

On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote:
 Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups 
 and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the 
 IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high 
 priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since 
 I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved 
 around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal.
 Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze 
 while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page 
 but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the 
 web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with 
 anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
 can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
 visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading 
 Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups 
 acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I 
 can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just 
 frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three
 priorities:  They are improved web access including improved focus and 
 use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix 
 Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message.

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
 Director of Product Management
 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
 Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
As I said in a previous message, the Google groups problem is one of
acdessibility and I know this from at least two people who are considered
expert users.

Are you sure you need a gmail account to get on that list?  If not, and I
think not, contact the moderator of that list for assistance.  I mention not
needing a gmail account for these lists as I've been on Google groups lists
withotua gmail account in the past.I know others who are on such lists
and not using a gmail account.

Try using list name+subsr...@googlegorups.com and see if this get you what
you want for that list as this si the format for such lists. Note the plus
sign between the list name and subscribe.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE 9.1  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows  8.1 home premium 64-bit
with Office 0137 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft  Defender on nebook
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Tom,

Regarding the IPhone, or anything Apple, may I suggest the forums on
Http://www.applevis.com, and signing up for any of their forums is easy, as
is signing up for an account, not to mention the fact that there is a ton of
info without signing up first.

Hth,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:12 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and that

I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone yesterday, I

think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I 
haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them 
yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in Internet 
Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will pull up a 
web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs

and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I 
press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't 
talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one 
can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help 
visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the

Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on

a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference 
manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an 
utter failure. Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web access 
including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including 
captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a 
message.

-Original Message- 
 From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you

could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen

reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Thanks for everyone's help today. After three dreary days, we got sunshine 
here, and your responses brightened things up more.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:11 PM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Given the fact that  I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and that
I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone yesterday, I
think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I
haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them
yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in Internet
Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will pull up a
web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs
and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I
press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't
talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a  joke when one
can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help
visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the
Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on
a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference
manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an
utter failure. Back to my three priorities:  They are improved web access
including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including
captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a
message.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk
Actually you do have block selection in programs like Microsoft word.  So
this really doesn't brake the standard.  How-ever I agree that both should
be an option.  I do like block selection when selecting a large  portion of
text.  When selecting a small portion of text though block selection just
doesn't make sense.  
Hth 


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:17 AM
To: 'Nick Sarames'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Hi Nick:

I'm an expert user, but prefer the standard way of selecting as opposed to
the F8 method as that's how it's done in every other program outside of web
browsing programs like IE.


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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the standard
text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email I read, it
sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back, we just don't
know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly 
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more 
 issues since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf 
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
I highly agree with this guy.

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Sent: Friday, 29 May 2015 16:55
To: David Goldfield; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used Word 
Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch over to the Dark 
Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could say that I still miss Word 
Perfect and the way it operated.

I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and has been 
for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface changing in Word about 
every other edition, it is difficult to buy their next copy knowing you are 
going to need to re-learn a lot of what you knew well in their previous edition.

MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS Word, 
going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star at Microsoft 
decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the public were offered MS 
Word 2007, where everything was changed, forcing people to hunt around for 
features and commands that once were automatic, but now were hidden away in 
some dark corner of the newest edition.

the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface, forcing 
everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am still stumbling 
around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and Word 365 which has changed 
the interface yet again.

When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most customers 
want reliability, and they want consistency in the program design.

Most computer users are not using a computer because they love dinking around 
with computers, but are using one because it is to be an assistive tool, that 
helps them to be more productive.

having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the General Public 
Dreams of doing.

So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the first 
thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if so, will it be 
more accessible than the previous edition, or will we be losing some 
accessibility.

Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their 
Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word 
Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating as it 
once was.

Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime in July.  
Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS 
Office?   Office 2015?



Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am 
all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having 
alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I 
find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and 
buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be 
choosing to afford.

At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?

Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. 
I can tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and 
distributes LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related 
feedback and would probably be happy to work with AI Squared in 
helping to make Window-Eyes work just as well with Writer

RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
OK, how about fixing WindowEyes so it will not grab the Error Window when
editing code in the code editor window for Visual Studio.
WindowEyes stands alone with this problem and it was not there in the WE 8.x
versions if I remember correctly.
I have tried to script a solution but couldn't figure out what was causing
the problem and it involves a production Microsoft Platform key feature so
something that WE  experts might address without too much work me thinks.
I don't care about anything else in the Visual Studio platform like the
Forms Designer since I can work around these WE problems but the Error
Window grabbing focus every time there is an initial error check and then
thereafterrequiring tabbing in and out of the code editor every time you
insert delete or otherwise modify code is beyond annoying and costs allot of
time and headaches making Visual Studio only somewhat useful with WindowEyes
and I have asked for this for ever when it has happened in the past.
Aarons Script he wrote many years ago is not working and way overkill and I
had never gotten it to work but then I was using the Express versions at the
time.
Long story short, my standing request for WindowEyes to address Visual
Studio at some ongoing level like other screen readers do still stands if
you are really interested in doing something with your Partners client
Development software.
Visual Studio is the flagship platform put out by Microsoft and after all
you are a Microsoft Partner and thus should be making every effort to make
their software accessible and useable me thinks.
Rick USA
 

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Mouse is one of what I think are the underlying problems.
It appears WE uses the mouse behind the scenes to monitor dynamic events and
I think this causes stability issues.
Stop doing this and use another method and have the mouse for client input
as it is designed.
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:17 AM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List; t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Overall better stability and then...

1. Better mouse interaction with web apps in IE.

2.  An auto OCR detection of .pdf documents that are scanned as images.

3.  A way to use Remote Desktop with pc's without WE installed on them.
Maybe something like the mobile version of WE being run when logging on to
the remote pc and unloading at log off.

Thanks,

David Ayers
Tioga County ITCS
607.687.8296
aye...@stny.rr.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi Lloyd:
From Gods mouth to AI2 ears me hopes.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2

and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible

for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer 
documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of 
when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If 
the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus.
Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want 
to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site 
building tools' output,  as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web 
developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages 
are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks.
It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures.
You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the 
causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't 
have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps. 
People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give 
information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only

be read by moving the mouse pointer around.
You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being 
stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech 
synthesizers.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you

could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen

reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi: This is another Microsoft flagship product like Visual Studio and in my
opinion these packages along with SQL Server Management Studio should be
pretty accessible for any Microsoft Partner.
Note how 90 percent of the desires on this thread are for free software
products indicating these folks likely don't use WindowEyes in a
professional greenies paying situation for the most part.
While Office is used in business and other software mentioned most of the
really good paying jobs use Office or Access or Visual Studio or Sql
Management Studio or other Microsoft Development or Office products when it
comes to a Windows Platform which is prevelent in most larger employer
companies.
Other software is also used extensively but these are the ones that
Microsoft puts out and after all AI2 is a Microsoft Partner are they not?
These packages open up very good paying jobs to blind folks so long as they
are accessible and are with another screen reader but not so much with
WindowEyes.
So I second the Access request all be it I use Sql Server and Sql Server CE
in most of my development - Access is a good choice just diferent and best
with Office products.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of George Savory via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 6:51 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Would like support for Microsoft Access

On 5/28/15, Jeremy Curry via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Why do you write it AI2?  Pam.

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From: Rick Thomas via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:19 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Jeremy Curry'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Hi Lloyd:

From Gods mouth to AI2 ears me hopes.

Rick USA

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Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2

and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible

for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer
documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of
when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If
the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus.
Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want
to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site
building tools' output,  as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web
developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages
are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks.
It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures.
You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the
causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't
have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps.
People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give
information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only

be read by moving the mouse pointer around.
You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being
stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech
synthesizers.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you

could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen

reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-31 Thread Richard G Applegate via Talk
  I would guess the 2 is intended to be an exponent.  In arithmetic exponent 
2 means squared.


-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:38 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Why do you write it AI2?  Pam.

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Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:19 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Jeremy Curry'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

Hi Lloyd:
From Gods mouth to AI2 ears me hopes.
Rick USA

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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2

and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible

for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer
documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of
when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If
the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus.
Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want
to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site
building tools' output,  as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web
developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages
are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks.
It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures.
You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the
causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't
have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps.
People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give
information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only

be read by moving the mouse pointer around.
You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being
stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech
synthesizers.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you

could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen

reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-30 Thread Warren Logan via Talk


Which by the way is something that you can not do in Thunderbird or 
firefox...

Maybe, bring the old method back but keep the new method as well?


On 5/30/2015 9:23 AM, via Talk wrote:

Along with the convenience of being able to copy and paste stuff while
retaining the formatting.

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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input


I like the new way for selecting large amounts of text, but if I just
want to select a couple of words, I'd prefer to use the old/standard method.

On 5/29/2015 5:13 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there Grroup!
It did take a bit of getting use to, but I find the F8 way of
selecting text is rather comfortable now.  I would like to see GwMicro
spend more time on getting a screen reader that works well with 'Touch
Screen'.  I would also like to see the numpad  cursor keys work in
ThunderBird again. Thanks and 73 de KF8LTJim Wohlgamuth.

On 28-May-15 19:24, Don H via Talk wrote:

I actually find the F8 way of selecting text is just as good or
better than the old way of doing it.  I did change the hot key from
F8 to Shift down arrow.

On 5/28/2015 5:54 PM, Elizabeth via Talk wrote:

I absolutely agree.

Elizabeth

At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:

If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we
could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page. All of
the other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and
shift and arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is
more of like a sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be
clunky at best.  Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So
that's my idea. I don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE
reads a webpage, but it'd sure be nice to do it the same way all the
other major screenreaders do it.





On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the
physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
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talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: Reeva Webb jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes
Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com; Darrell Bowles
dgbow...@msn.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input



I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still
on IE 8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE
11 because I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal
with aspects of my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)


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On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:39 PM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical
mouse to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that
y'all weren't strictly keyboard focused.

Reeva

On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


y over all applications, and support for more applications  and
easier
ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
microsoft access  better stability

-Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our
products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have
us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-30 Thread George Savory via Talk
Would like support for Microsoft Access

On 5/28/15, Jeremy Curry via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-30 Thread via Talk
There is a workaround to solve the synth pronunciation quirks. Create a new
Window-Eyes user profile and name it for the synth that profile will use.
Each new user profile is able to be tailored to each user's preferences of
synth and screen, keyboard, mouse, verbosity, etcetera, settings because
each profile has its own unique folder containing set files, character,
exception, key label, graphic, etcetera dictionaries. Furthermore, a new
user profile can be created using all of your other settings so that you
don't have to set your rates, tones, verbosity blah, blah, from scratch. It
would take some time and patience to tweak a new excp.dic for a given synth,
but if mispronunciations bug you, then you will find it worth your time.
Once you have created new user profiles, then instead of switching synths,
you would switch user profiles. 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:57 PM
To: Ted Larson; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Ted,

Regarding your desire for a pronunciation dictionary? This isn't 
possible. The speech synthesizers are completely independent of 
Window-Eyes. They're made by other companies and they all have different 
quirks. So there's no way for the folks at AI (or any other 
screen-reader developers) to do anything about it.

That's why Window-Eyes has the exception dictionary feature. But you 
don't want to use it to fix every little quirk in a synth because all 
text queued for voicing must query the dictionary before being sent to 
the synthesizer. This is why most of them have commercial versions for 
dedicated systems such as phone services. And these commercial versions 
have the tools to create pronunciation dictionaries and embed them into 
the synthesizer itself.

And if you use more than one synthesizer you'll see differences in 
what's pronounced right and wrong between them.

Hth,
Tom


On 5/29/2015 7:46 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
 First, I would like to know what is hogging the system, taking away
 resources from the application I am working on.
 Second, Sometimes a dialog box appears without telling me anything and
 then disappears within a couple of seconds without a clue.
 Third:  It would be nice to have all words that window-eyes cannot
 pronounce correctly, to be updated through a dictionary where those
 words could be found and spoken correctly.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

 - Original Message - From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM
 Subject: Seeking Your Input


 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-30 Thread via Talk
Along with the convenience of being able to copy and paste stuff while
retaining the formatting.

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Behalf Of Warren Logan via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:10 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input


I like the new way for selecting large amounts of text, but if I just 
want to select a couple of words, I'd prefer to use the old/standard method.

On 5/29/2015 5:13 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
 Hi there Grroup!
 It did take a bit of getting use to, but I find the F8 way of 
 selecting text is rather comfortable now.  I would like to see GwMicro 
 spend more time on getting a screen reader that works well with 'Touch 
 Screen'.  I would also like to see the numpad  cursor keys work in 
 ThunderBird again. Thanks and 73 de KF8LTJim Wohlgamuth.

 On 28-May-15 19:24, Don H via Talk wrote:
 I actually find the F8 way of selecting text is just as good or 
 better than the old way of doing it.  I did change the hot key from 
 F8 to Shift down arrow.

 On 5/28/2015 5:54 PM, Elizabeth via Talk wrote:
 I absolutely agree.

 Elizabeth

 At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
 If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we
 could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page. All of
 the other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and
 shift and arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is
 more of like a sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be
 clunky at best.  Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So
 that's my idea. I don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE
 reads a webpage, but it'd sure be nice to do it the same way all the
 other major screenreaders do it.





 On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
 AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the
 physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
 - Original Message - From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 To: Reeva Webb jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes
 Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com; Darrell Bowles
 dgbow...@msn.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


 I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still
 on IE 8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE
 11 because I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal
 with aspects of my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)


 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:39 PM
 To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

 Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical
 mouse to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that
 y'all weren't strictly keyboard focused.

 Reeva

 On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk 
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 y over all applications, and support for more applications  and 
 easier
 ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
 microsoft access  better stability

 -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our 
 products.
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have 
 us add
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread David Goldfield via Talk
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean I'm 
pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. I 
realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, for many 
reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better than 
competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can get. I get 
that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for why I broke down 
and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if I'm going to be honest, 
Office offers me the best accessibility for document creation and 
editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased with this fact. I also feel 
no malice toward them for their products or for the way they are being 
marketed and distributed. The fact is that Microsoft Word is a darn good 
product, is used by a lot of people and screen readers need to support 
it. However, Office should not be the only choice available to us. Some 
people just can't afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should 
have to pay for a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the 
philosophy of open source, not just because many open source packages 
are free but because they are written and supported by a community, 
rather than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft 
Word. Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes and 
you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, we need 
to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as can be 
implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. I can tell 
you that the Document Foundation, which produces and distributes 
LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related feedback and would 
probably be happy to work with AI Squared in helping to make Window-Eyes 
work just as well with Writer as it does with Word. This would open up 
good word processing to many more of your users and would make 
Window-Eyes stand apart from the competition if we could have the same 
level of support with LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail (basically 
mouse navigation)
2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish labelling 
does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage to really label 
them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages used 
today.


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On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread David Goldfield via Talk

Here are my ideas/requests for possible Window-Eyes enhancements.
1. The ability to run Window-Eyes completely off of a thumb drive 
without the need to install drivers onto the host system. (If this is 
already possible, please let me know.
2. An offline dictionary with thesaurus. I realize that some people will 
passionately disagree with this request by saying that this is not a 
screen-reader specific feature and that we have many online options for 
word definitions and synonyms. These statements are all true and so 
there's no need to debate that. However, this is something that would 
still make Window-Eyes not only useful but unique as I don't believe 
this is available in other Windows screen readers. This could be an 
optional component to be installed and, like the Mac, could be globally 
available, even without an Internet connection. I could envision being 
in a Word document or a Web page, placing the cursor on a word without 
the need to highlight it first and being able to look up definitions and 
such with the press of a hotkey. Again, perhaps this is hardly necessary 
but it would make Window-Eyes stand out from the competition.
3. The ability to enter BIOs/Uefi settings and have them accessible. 
Maybe it's not possible. However, some might have concluded that screen 
readers would never be able to talk in safe mode and Window-Eyes can 
offer that capability, which is one of the things which makes it truly 
unique and which makes it stand apart from its competition. If AI 
Squared could offer this feature you'd be able to do this even more.


And if I may sneak in a fourth idea ...

4. Could we please have built-in voices from other text-to-speech 
vendors, such as Ivona or A Capella? This is totally irrational but as 
much as I don't mind Samantha on my iPhone I don't care for her as much 
on my Windows PC and I'd like to see some additional alternatives.


Thanks for asking for our input.



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Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
reader V11 and V12 respectively.

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On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.

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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
If you use the alternate help request you do not need to forward any
ports, its left to the helper to do that.

christopher hallsworth via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to 
 use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote 
 Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now, 
 thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance, 
 it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.
 
 Thanks for reading.
  On 29 May 2015, at 00:25, Bill Belew via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com 
  wrote:
  
  I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely works
  for me any longer.  
  
  I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
  
  Bill
  
  
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  Subject: Seeking Your Input
  
  Hello Everyone,
  
  We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
  could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
  reading product, what would they be?
  
  Thanks for the input!
  
  Jeremy
  
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail (basically 
mouse navigation)
2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish labelling 
does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage to really label 
them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages used 
today.


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On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Klaus Vielhauer via Talk

Hello Jeremy,
1. Focus is frequently not on top of page when a webpage is opened which is 
very annoying.
2. The find command on webpages does not work when text is spoken and needs 
multiple actions.
3. Some links on webpages are not recognized as a link until you position 
the cursor on it and press enter.

Regards
Klaus

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Ahhh! This email remind me something. Please better support for Abby-fine 
reader V11 and V12 respectively.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:45
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

A WE app to make one of the off the shelf OCR programs more accessible.

On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
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 Ai Squared, Inc.
 Phone: (802) 362-3612
 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Kathy Metters via Talk
  Number one choice to use f8 or control see when highlighting text on the 
Internet.
Number two a way of finding out where I am in a static  page on the Internet on 
websites  like barred Number three more support for editing tags in iTunes. 
Thanks.

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

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 talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
 reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
this problem applys to most programs that use graphics. when you have  the 
program running and have to reload w e the message status will not speak 
until you reload the program.

wlm does this too.;

-Original Message- 
From: M and L Dorn via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:45 PM
To: AI Squared List Post
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut
down WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W
for a restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn
P.S.  I already sent this to Jeremy, but I thought the list should
see that there's yet another Eudora fan.

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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Elizabeth via Talk
You did not mention JARTE. Have you tried using it as a Word 
Processor alternative to MS Word?


Elizabeth


At 02:54 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and 
Liber office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many 
manage to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming 
languages  packages used today.



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Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our 
products.  If you could narrow down the top three requests you would 
have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rob via Talk
I love Jarte, myself. It works faster, more intuitively, and cleaner than 
Word I bought a copy of Jarte plus and haven't really looked any further for 
a rich text editor.

Now if only we could have an accessible epub editor...
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To: Micallef Michael at FITA michael.mical...@gov.mt; Window-Eyes 
Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


You did not mention JARTE. Have you tried using it as a Word Processor 
alternative to MS Word?


Elizabeth


At 02:54 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage 
to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages 
used today.



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Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk

Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk

If I remember correctly, f8 goes back to the dos days.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:24 PM
To: Elizabeth ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I actually find the F8 way of selecting text is just as good or better
than the old way of doing it.  I did change the hot key from F8 to Shift
down arrow.

On 5/28/2015 5:54 PM, Elizabeth via Talk wrote:

I absolutely agree.

Elizabeth

At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:

If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we
could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page.  All of
the other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and
shift and arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is
more of like a sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be
clunky at best.  Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So
that's my idea. I don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE
reads a webpage, but it'd sure be nice to do it the same way all the
other major screenreaders do it.





On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the
physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
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To: Reeva Webb jadedangelpromi...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes
Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com; Darrell Bowles
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Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input



I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still
on IE 8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE
11 because I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal
with aspects of my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical
mouse to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that
y'all weren't strictly keyboard focused.

Reeva

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talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:


y over all applications, and support for more applications  and easier
ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
microsoft access  better stability

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We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread via Talk
Agreed. Keep F8 and if you feel you need to, add the shift arrow selection
back on.

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I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Elizabeth via Talk
Have you tried Window-eyes with Jarte? If you Google it, you may find 
it serves your needs.


Elizabeth

At 03:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. 
I can tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and 
distributes LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related 
feedback and would probably be happy to work with AI Squared in 
helping to make Window-Eyes work just as well with Writer as it does 
with Word. This would open up good word processing to many more of 
your users and would make Window-Eyes stand apart from the 
competition if we could have the same level of support with 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office 
and Liber office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many 
manage to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming 
languages  packages used today.



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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our 
products.  If you could narrow down the top three requests you 
would have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rick Blair via Talk
Hello Jeremy:

What a wonderfully open-ended question you have asked. As a person new to
WE, recently migrating from Zoom Text, I cannot comment on how past features
are different in the current version. I can only dream of what would make my
life easier with assistive technology such as Window Eyes.

1. As an engineer who focuses on architectural designs of complex systems, I
would like some way for graphical constructs (e.g. flowcharts, state
transition diagrams, UML diagrams, etc. to be described.  Since all of these
types of graphics are not bitmap type graphics but logical representations
of logical connections between entities, some method of description should
be possible. The difficulty is that it may depend upon the package used to
create the visualization (Visio, Word Art, Enterprise Architect, etc.)
2. I think there is an opportunity to improve Power Point capabilities.
Perhaps it is my lack of experience with WE when reading Power Point
diagrams, but I find that tabbing between objects on a slide to be confusing
and not very intuitive. If I tab to a text box, for instance, I am told that
I am on a text box and its location, but its content is not disclosed. I
must hit enter to read the text contained within.
3. Improved access with collaborative tools, like WebEx. I am not sure if
this can be solved by the WE team alone. It probably requires accessibility
vendors to drive change in these collaborate tools to support accessibility.
Today, others in my workplace are used to helping me read screens presented
in these collaborative tools. I envision a future where this support is no
longer necessary and that I can read these shared screens as well as they
appear in their native tools.

From a business side, now that AI Squared and GW Micro are now one, I would
like to see an upgrade pricing strategy to support those migrating from Zoom
Text to Window eyes. I am currently using the WE for Office, but would like
to purchase a licensed copy with the extra voices and technical support, but
the $900 price tag is a significant barrier.

Thanks for asking and listening.

Rick blair


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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Sim Kah Yong via Talk

Hello Jeremy,

Thanks for asking. My top three requests for Window-eyes will be:
1.  Make it rock solid once again just like before without crashing or 
losing speech so often.
2.  The ability to switch language on the fly just like using iphone or 
ipad with IOS.
3.  To access the content of internet sites with ease, especially 
filling up forms.


Thank you once again.

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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
Personally, I really don't care how the sighted people do it.  I care how 
blind people do it.





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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

I absolutely agree.

Elizabeth

At 06:04 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
If I had to have one thing different, I really, really, really wish we 
could go back to the old way of selecting text on a web page.  All of the 
other screenreaders do it the standard way with the control and shift and 
arrow keys.  I understand that the f8 selection method is more of like a 
sighted person does it, but I've often found it to be clunky at best. 
Either that or it's operator error, I'm not sure. So that's my idea. I 
don't know if selecting text relies on the way WE reads a webpage, but it'd 
sure be nice to do it the same way all the other major screenreaders do it.






On 5/28/2015 5:29 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
AS a low vision user I would also like to have the ability to use the 
physical mouse Like the earlier versions had.
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


I loudly echo Reeva's comment on physical mouse support.  I'm still on IE 
8 and WE 8.4 at work and dread the point when we'll move to IE 11 because 
I rely on the physical mouse narration right now to deal with aspects of 
my work.  (I'm on IE 11 and WE 9.1 at home.)



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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 1:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Please,please, please low vision we users need using the physical mouse 
to work again. One of the main reasons i chose we was that y'all weren't 
strictly keyboard focused.


Reeva

On Thursday, May 28, 2015, Darrell Bowles via Talk  
talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:



y over all applications, and support for more applications  and easier
ways to make applications accessible by the user.Better support for
microsoft access  better stability

-Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Andre via Talk
I had no idea about this port forwarding even when talking to WE tech
support. It just wasn't working on my Vista machine when trying to get
assistance with tech support who was running on WE 7 or 8 at the time. This
was several months ago. I was using WE 9 and still, it wasn't working.

So I agree. Let's update and get remote assistance working for all platforms
that WE says it supports.

Thanks,

Perhaps for that reason, I couldn't get assistance even from WE tech
support.
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Hi all

Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to
use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote
Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now,
thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance,
it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.

Thanks for reading.
 On 29 May 2015, at 00:25, Bill Belew via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
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 I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely works
 for me any longer.  
 
 I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
 
 Bill
 
 
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 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
 reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
 Jeremy
 
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi:

That's why I think efforts by AI Squared and other screen reader makers
should be to get their products to work with mainstream remote assistance
products like TeamViewer, LogMeInPro and others.  These are the kinds of
products used by entities like Geek Squad, and if they were accessible from
both sides, people who are blind could work in positions like that.


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Hi all

Ok I will jump in here and say Remote Assistance needs to be much easier to
use without the hassle of forwarding ports at both ends. When Remote
Assistance was introduced in Window-Eyes 7.5, it was very easy to use. Now,
thanks to a later update to the 7.5 series which updated Remote Assistance,
it is not so. Some clients would not have a clue about port forwarding.

Thanks for reading.
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wrote:
 
 I would like to see Remote Assistance made more reliable.  It rarely 
 works for me any longer.
 
 I would also like to see support for touch screens.  
 
 Bill
 
 
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 On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?
 
 Thanks for the input!
 
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi All:

Jeremy, a fourth suggestion.  How about access to tools like CUITe Object
Recorder, used in automated testing development.


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Alan J Paganelli via Talk
I too would like to see the ability to use Jart.  I use Jart 45 in screen 
reader mode.  I'm an awful speller but Jart lets me do spell check  I would 
like to access Jart 45 through Window-Eyes.





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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:47 AM
To: David Goldfield ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Have you tried Window-eyes with Jarte? If you Google it, you may find
it serves your needs.

Elizabeth

At 03:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean I'm 
pleading the fifth?


Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for LibreOffice. 
I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. I realize that 
Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, for many reasons, it is 
essential that Window-Eyes remains better than competitive by offering the 
best access to Office as we can get. I get that and agree with it. However, 
one of the reasons for why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home 
was because, if I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best 
accessibility for document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is 
quite pleased with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their 
products or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact 
is that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of people 
and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should not be the 
only choice available to us. Some people just can't afford it. Some can but 
don't feel that they should have to pay for a decent word processor and I'm 
in that camp. I love the philosophy of open source, not just because many 
open source packages are free but because they are written and supported by 
a community, rather than a corporation, which has some advantages over 
Microsoft Word. Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the 
scripting/app development aspect brings that community involvement to 
Window-Eyes and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said 
that, we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. I can 
tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and distributes 
LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related feedback and would 
probably be happy to work with AI Squared in helping to make Window-Eyes 
work just as well with Writer as it does with Word. This would open up good 
word processing to many more of your users and would make Window-Eyes stand 
apart from the competition if we could have the same level of support with 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice as we do with Word.



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On 5/29/2015 2:54 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

My wish list include:

1. Better support for Mozilla products especially Thunderbird Mail 
(basically mouse navigation)

2. the ability to import/export window-eyes settings
3. better support for non-microsoft products such as open office and Liber 
office so we the end users have better choice.
4. better labelling graphics capability (the insert+g when finish 
labelling does not tells you how many labels it found and how many manage 
to really label them).
5. better support for the most three used programming languages  packages 
used today.



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Sent: Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:33
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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk
Overall better stability and then...

1. Better mouse interaction with web apps in IE.

2.  An auto OCR detection of .pdf documents that are scanned as images.

3.  A way to use Remote Desktop with pc's without WE installed on them.  Maybe 
something like the mobile version of WE being run when logging on to the remote 
pc and unloading at log off.

Thanks,

David Ayers
Tioga County ITCS
607.687.8296
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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Hi Nick,

You make me feel better. I am glad that there are at least 2 of us with
somewhat limited computer knowledge. Smile.

Paulette

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I've never been very knowledgeable when it comes to using computers (even
though I've been on the web for almost 15 years) which makes understanding
everything WE can do somewhat overwhelming.  That said, I am in radio
Broadcasting and would love to know if WE and audio production can be
compatible.

As for stability, I've only been using WE 9.1 for about a month and find it
to be fairly stable, and restarting WE (controlk-alt-w) has worked for me
virtually without problems.

One more thing, if WE could work better with audio and video playback
software such as reading graphics (so that I can scroll through various
menus) that would make it easier for me to listen to a Caudio CD or DVD. 
Sorry, one more thing, while f-8 may be a bit clunky, I type exclusively
with the left hand, and this makes it much easier for me to copy lots of
text.

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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk

Hi Rick.

You might want to see if aisquared is still doing the lease to own 
program.  I  am not for sure but it would not hurt to ask.


Matthew


On 5/29/2015 6:18 AM, Rick Blair via Talk wrote:

Hello Jeremy:

What a wonderfully open-ended question you have asked. As a person new to
WE, recently migrating from Zoom Text, I cannot comment on how past features
are different in the current version. I can only dream of what would make my
life easier with assistive technology such as Window Eyes.

1. As an engineer who focuses on architectural designs of complex systems, I
would like some way for graphical constructs (e.g. flowcharts, state
transition diagrams, UML diagrams, etc. to be described.  Since all of these
types of graphics are not bitmap type graphics but logical representations
of logical connections between entities, some method of description should
be possible. The difficulty is that it may depend upon the package used to
create the visualization (Visio, Word Art, Enterprise Architect, etc.)
2. I think there is an opportunity to improve Power Point capabilities.
Perhaps it is my lack of experience with WE when reading Power Point
diagrams, but I find that tabbing between objects on a slide to be confusing
and not very intuitive. If I tab to a text box, for instance, I am told that
I am on a text box and its location, but its content is not disclosed. I
must hit enter to read the text contained within.
3. Improved access with collaborative tools, like WebEx. I am not sure if
this can be solved by the WE team alone. It probably requires accessibility
vendors to drive change in these collaborate tools to support accessibility.
Today, others in my workplace are used to helping me read screens presented
in these collaborative tools. I envision a future where this support is no
longer necessary and that I can read these shared screens as well as they
appear in their native tools.

 From a business side, now that AI Squared and GW Micro are now one, I would
like to see an upgrade pricing strategy to support those migrating from Zoom
Text to Window eyes. I am currently using the WE for Office, but would like
to purchase a licensed copy with the extra voices and technical support, but
the $900 price tag is a significant barrier.

Thanks for asking and listening.

Rick blair


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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
This is like the Eudora item. How long should an AT company be expected
to support old software? Sometimes it's just time to move on.

Andy


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I'm another low vision user stuck using IE 8 waiting for mouse support
to return to WE. Being able to use the physical mouse to read web pages
is by far the most important feature I need.



Jim Roberts



At 03:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Bravo! Well said! The thing I miss most about Word Perfect is the ability to
do a backward search. Now why didn't MS Word do that?

Paulette

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On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:55 AM
To: David Goldfield; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Hey, I would like to see Access return to Word Perfect.  I once used Word
Perfect all the time, then about 15 years ago, had to switch over to the
Dark Side and use MS Word.  I still use Word, but could say that I still
miss Word Perfect and the way it operated.

I know that MS Word is the dominate Word Processor on the Market, and has
been for a while now.  Never the less, with the interface changing in Word
about every other edition, it is difficult to buy their next copy knowing
you are going to need to re-learn a lot of what you knew well in their
previous edition.

MS Word 2003 had the same look and feel of most of the editions of MS Word,
going back to the DOS Days.  Then some Bright and Rising Star at Microsoft
decided it would be a good thing to change Word.  We the public were offered
MS Word 2007, where everything was changed, forcing people to hunt around
for features and commands that once were automatic, but now were hidden away
in some dark corner of the newest edition.

the next edition was MS Word 2010, which again rebuilt the interface,
forcing everyone to yet again learn the new layout in MS Word.  I am still
stumbling around in MS Word 2010.  then 2013 came along, and Word 365 which
has changed the interface yet again.

When it comes to computers, and the software that runs on them, most
customers want reliability, and they want consistency in the program design.

Most computer users are not using a computer because they love dinking
around with computers, but are using one because it is to be an assistive
tool, that helps them to be more productive.

having to relearn drastically altered interfaces is not what the General
Public Dreams of doing.

So when Microsoft comes along with a brand new edition of Office, the first
thing all of us ask is, is it going to be Accessible?  And if so, will it be
more accessible than the previous edition, or will we be losing some
accessibility.

Today,  all Word Processors I know of, allow the user to Save their 
Documents in the MS Word file format.So whether you use Word 
Perfect, or Open Office, or some other Processor, is not as isolating as it
once was.

Since Microsoft is planning to release their new Windows 10 sometime in
July.  Anyone know if they will be releasing a new edition of MS 
Office?   Office 2015?



Getting back to offering support for another Word Processor. . . I am 
all for it.  Whether it is Open Office, or even Word Perfect, having 
alternatives would be nice.  Since I am no longer a Working Stiff, I 
find my own funds are now limited, and the thought of going out and 
buying a copy of MS Office does not seem like something I will be 
choosing to afford.

At 12:37 AM 5/29/2015, you wrote:
As I'm adding a fifth suggestion to my initial list, does this mean 
I'm pleading the fifth?

Seriously, I totally agree with this request about support for 
LibreOffice. I realize that AI Squared is partnering with Microsoft. 
I realize that Microsoft Office is a major Microsoft product and, 
for many reasons, it is essential that Window-Eyes remains better 
than competitive by offering the best access to Office as we can 
get. I get that and agree with it. However, one of the reasons for 
why I broke down and purchased Office 365 at home was because, if 
I'm going to be honest, Office offers me the best accessibility for 
document creation and editing. I'm sure Microsoft is quite pleased 
with this fact. I also feel no malice toward them for their products 
or for the way they are being marketed and distributed. The fact is 
that Microsoft Word is a darn good product, is used by a lot of 
people and screen readers need to support it. However, Office should 
not be the only choice available to us. Some people just can't 
afford it. Some can but don't feel that they should have to pay for 
a decent word processor and I'm in that camp. I love the philosophy 
of open source, not just because many open source packages are free 
but because they are written and supported by a community, rather 
than a corporation, which has some advantages over Microsoft Word. 
Although Window-Eyes isn't such a product, the scripting/app 
development aspect brings that community involvement to Window-Eyes 
and you guys do it better than your competition. Having said that, 
we need to see equal support for LibreOffice, or at least as much as 
can be implemented if there are limitations caused by the software. 
I can tell you that the Document Foundation, which produces and 
distributes LibreOffice, is interested in accessibility-related 
feedback and would probably be happy

Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread hui thian via Talk
hi, please kindly make window-eyes able to read flash and images. now a days 
most of the web sides are using flash and window-eyes is not able to support 
that programme and I have difficulties browsing and doing things on that 
type of web side. thanks
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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the 
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email 
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back, 
we just don't know when.

Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, because
WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
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On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit a
hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Loy via Talk
Rather than shutting down try control, Alt, delete then alt L will log you 
off and back on.
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From: Paulette Vickery via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
To: 'Ray Campbell' ray153...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input


What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than 
control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, 
because

WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit 
a

hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

Ray Campbell
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk
How about the ability to work with metro apps in windows 8.1 and later 
such as the windows mail app.  Matthew




On 5/28/2015 3:42 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Continue to improve WEB access.  Support for touch screens for both 
tablets and laptops.


On 5/28/2015 2:32 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
I would suspect this is partly because it is a standard way of selecting
text in Windows applications. If you use more than one screen reader,
you have to remember that you have to use a different selection method
with Window Eyes.

Andy


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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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On
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 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
i seldom have to reboot. sometimes i have to wait 20 seconds before w e will 
reload.
another option is to create a batch file and a desktop icon with a shortcut 
to the batch file.

in the batch file use the w e command switch /k
use note pad to create the batch file file name.bat
and use this command. including the quotes.
C:\Program Files (x86)\GW Micro\Window-Eyes\wineyes.exe /k




-Original Message- 
From: Paulette Vickery via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:12 AM
To: 'Ray Campbell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input

What hot key can you hit when Window Eyes stops talking, other than control
alt W, which doesn't work well anyway? I have to reboot frequently, because
WE just stops talking and there is nothing else to do.

Paulette
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:01 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Several thoughts. First, I agree, let's go back to the standard way of
selecting and copying text from web pages.  Second, one thing Window-Eyes
does that no other screen reader to my knowledge does is allow you to hit a
hot key and bring it back up when it stops talking.

One thing I'd love for WE to do that would separate it from the pack is to
be able to run when you're installing or upgrading Windows.  I don't think
any screen reader does that.

Ray Campbell
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
because aisquared is starting to look more like jaws. where most if not all 
of the normal windows commands are being hidden from the user.
instead of letting the user learn the normal windows commands which have 
been about the same through all versions of windows since i have been useing 
a computer back in 1990



-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:12 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Warren Logan via Talk


Hello.
I would like to see Window-eyes read text better in firefox.
Ever since the new browse mode, reading text in firefox has been some 
what of a chore.
Sometimes a letter or even parts of words are simply chopped off from 
the end of a line. And even sometimes, whole lines are hidden until I up 
arrow. A great example of this is pretty much any youtube comment 
section. This never ever happened in the old browse mode. Also, I too 
would like to be able to select text the usual way in a webpage. The new 
way is useful for large blocks of text, but if I want to select a line, 
or even just a word, there is in my opinion an unnecesary added step or 
two that has to be taken to accomplish this quite simple task.
And of course, I would like to see Window-eyes be more stable, and hang 
less. The ability to restart the program is a great start, but I would 
like to use it less, if that makes sense.



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Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you 
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen 
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ray Campbell via Talk
Hi Nick:

I'm an expert user, but prefer the standard way of selecting as opposed to
the F8 method as that's how it's done in every other program outside of web
browsing programs like IE.


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-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the standard
text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email I read, it
sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back, we just don't
know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly 
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more 
 issues since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf 
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 On Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
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 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
 If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
 to our screen reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
My apologies Andy ... I only read the subject and jumped to a conclusion
about what was being discussed; didn't read all the way down!.

Sorry again,

Chip


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On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: M and L Dorn; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

At 12:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread net bat via Talk
i would like to see some way for w e to move focus to the edit box from the 
too field when replying to a message with wlm 2012.
you know how many times i have replied to a message to find out i was in the 
to field and have to cut and paste my message to the edit box where it was 
suppose to go in the first place.
i'll send the message and get the message check names when i try to send it. 
then i know i was in the to field. 


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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Chip Orange via Talk
Andy's pegged it; the new way is easier, but it's different from how we have
to do it (even in WE) in other places in Windows.

Chip


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On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:59 PM
To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

I would suspect this is partly because it is a standard way of selecting
text in Windows applications. If you use more than one screen reader,
you have to remember that you have to use a different selection method
with Window Eyes.

Andy


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Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as 
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:
 I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
 do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

 On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:
 My 3 choices in no specific order are:

 Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

 More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
 since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

 Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
 products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

 Barbara


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 From: Talk
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On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
 To: t...@window-eyes.com
 Subject: Seeking Your Input

 Hello Everyone,

 We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.
If
 you
 could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
 screen
 reading product, what would they be?

 Thanks for the input!

 Jeremy

 Jeremy Curry
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Yes, Window-Eyes needs to have better marketing of its products, especially
since it is going to be made by AI Squared once things are properly merged
and the website is just the single AI Squared.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:46 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2
and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible
for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer
documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of
when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If
the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus.
Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want
to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site
building tools' output,  as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web
developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages
are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks.
It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures.
You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the
causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't
have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps. 
People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give
information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only
be read by moving the mouse pointer around.
You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being
stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech
synthesizers.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
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Ai Squared, Inc.
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RE: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
This is an excelent opportunity to once again request (now
with urgency) improvements to braille support.  Secondly: improvements as to
how Window-Eyes operates in corporate environments.  And thirdly: online
sales availability for those of us outside of the United States.  Adding a
fourth: increasing the gap between what is available to paying customers and
those who take the Office route.  By way of example: perhaps my longed for
improvements to braille could aply only to ve3rsions of the software which
are purchased.

 

Vaughan.

 

 

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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
First, I would like to know what is hogging the system, taking away 
resources from the application I am working on.
Second, Sometimes a dialog box appears without telling me anything and then 
disappears within a couple of seconds without a clue.
Third:  It would be nice to have all words that window-eyes cannot pronounce 
correctly, to be updated through a dictionary where those words could be 
found and spoken correctly.  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson


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Subject: Seeking Your Input



Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If 
you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our 
screen reading product, what would they be?


Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Chip,

I believe you misinterpreted what Andy was saying.
He meant that development on Eudora has stopped, and he recommended to the
person that they should move on and use a different email client.
I do believe he could have stated his opinion a bit more softly.

All the best,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:41 PM
To: 'Baracco, Andrew W'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

So why are you even here on this list Andy if you feel like that?

I'll never understand people who stick around simply to complain.

Just so you know ... no, development has never stopped, and the constant
stream of long read me files with each release is more than proof enough.
In addition, there's the separate scripting community.


Chip


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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: M and L Dorn; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Give me a break. Development on this program stopped how many years ago?
Sometimes it's just time to move on, and it isn't a question of there
not being alternatives.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:35 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

Support for Eudora 7.1.0.9 that tons of people are still using.  The
graphics that say read unread and so on don't speak unless you shut down
WE, start Eudora, and THEN start WE again.  Using Control-Alt-W for a
restart of WE doesn't do it.

Thanks!
Marilyn

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We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

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Ai Squared, Inc.
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Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
This is absolutely ridiculous. You're right about Jaws making users 
think most of the Windows hot keys are Jaws keys. But Window-Eyes has 
never done that.


Give me a list of the most if not all Windows keys that Window-Eyes is 
hiding from us.


The standard selection keys are not employed in browsers for anyone 
but screen-reader users. And that's something each screen-reader does 
itself. It is not given to them by Microsoft.


Tom


On 5/29/2015 2:11 PM, net bat via Talk wrote:

because aisquared is starting to look more like jaws. where most if not
all of the normal windows commands are being hidden from the user.
instead of letting the user learn the normal windows commands which have
been about the same through all versions of windows since i have been
useing a computer back in 1990


-Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:12 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

Can I ask why some people prefer the original way of selecting text as
opposed to f8 (all things being equal)?

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:48 PM
To: Keith Hinton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input

What would be cool is if the user could have the choice to use the
standard text-selection method or the f8 method.  From an earlier email
I read, it sounds like the regular text-selection method *will* be back,
we just don't know when.
Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not.



On 5/28/2015 7:45 PM, Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

I do not want the f8 feature going away even though some users clearly
do in bbrowse mode. I prefer this.

On 5/28/15, Barbara via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

My 3 choices in no specific order are:

Be able to read CAPTCHA Verification

More stability with Office and internet explorer.  I have had more
issues
since version 9 of WE than I have in more than 20 years

Most far fetched is a way for window-eyes to work with off the shelf
products without a tech type creating special apps or set files etc.

Barbara


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Seeking Your Input

Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  If
you
could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our
screen
reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input

2015-05-29 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
Not to mention leaving yourself vulnerable to nasty things due to use of old
software that's no logner supported.

Use at your own risk but don't' complain when bad things happen.

Karyn Campbell, karyn1...@gmail.com




In a message sen ton Friday May 29 by Andrew Baraco
This is like the Eudora item. How long should an AT company be expected to
support old software? Sometimes it's just time to move on.

Andy


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[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of James Roberts via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:59 PM
To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Seeking Your Input


I'm another low vision user stuck using IE 8 waiting for mouse support to
return to WE. Being able to use the physical mouse to read web pages is by
far the most important feature I need.



Jim Roberts



At 03:32 PM 5/28/2015, you wrote:
Hello Everyone,

We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products.  
If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add 
to our screen reading product, what would they be?

Thanks for the input!

Jeremy

Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/

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