RE: window-eyes going in to orbit

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

This is just me, but, I never tab through a site unless I'm filling out  a form.

I stick to the arrow keys and quick navigation.
Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:41 PM
To: j...@jedbarton.com; Jed Barton ; Window-Eyes 
Discussion List 
Subject: Re: window-eyes going in to orbit

I wonder if your web browser is causing the issue.

On 11/7/2016 6:55 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, i have just about had it with what's going on here with the latest 
> window-eyes.  It's happening way more frequently than it should.  I 
> have web pages that are just not reading at all.  I'll load a website, 
> it'll tell me how many links and all that it has, but as i tab around, 
> nothing.  The solution is to re-start window-eyes.  It happens purely 
> randomly.  This is a pretty new computer, running windows 10, 
> completely unacceptable this behavior.  Any ideas?
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RE: speech synthesizers

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

You can, sort of, its name is Fred.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 4:15 AM
To: CJ  MAY ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: speech synthesizers

As do I.
There are many newer ones which say they are human sounding, they are not, and 
in my opinion they are not as clear as easy to understand as the venerable 
DecTalk I wish I could get it on my iPhone.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, CJ  MAY via Talk < 
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I originally used Dectalk Express and despite the wide choice of much 
> more human voices, I still prefer to use Dectalk Access 32.
>
> Alison
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RE: Printing Envelopes

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
How about a label printer where you can print out the labels and stick them on 
instead of printing directly to the envelopes.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:49 PM
To: 'Barbara' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Printing Envelopes

Barbara, like you, I have a Canon printer.  It is a rather high-end one though 
used primarily at work.  I don't have a printer at home, although I am in dire 
need of one that's portable enough to stick in a laptop bag since I am always 
running after myself !  And I want to stay away from inkjets, I am tired 
and sick of having to buy inks every other day.

I use Word 2007 still and I don't have problems printing envelopes.  I did have 
difficulties getting it inserted correctly, but, I called Canon Tech Support, 
explained the situation and, right on, they were extremely helpful!
Patiently, they explained to me how to lay the envelope inside the printer.
It was as if the support tech was standing next to me.  I'd therefore suggest 
you call Canon Tech Support at:

800-652-2666 and follow the prompts.

On another list I frequent, I don't recall which one now amongst many, someone 
posted info about an envelope printing program which I downloaded.
It's a ZIP file, hopefully not too big a file to send your way.  Sorry, I'm not 
into DropBox, else I'd have placed it there.  

If you send me a private note, I'd be glad to search for this program file and 
send it your way to play with.  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Finding File attachments in Becky?

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
This should help:
http://media.blubrry.com/assistivetech/p/www.mysticaccesspodcast.com/audio/mp33becky2.mp3


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 3:02 PM
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Finding File attachments in Becky?

Hello,

I use Becky for my Email.  Had someone send me a File attachment the other day, 
but I cannot find which folder it is located. 

I have a folder called Becky, under Documents, but I see no attachment in this 
folder.

Would someone who knows, tell me where I might find attachments? 

Oh, and I am using Becky 2.0 and Windows 10.  

Grumpy Dave


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RE: Strange Behavior with Window-eyes

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Sounds like your antivirus program flagged Window-eyes components.  This 
behavior is  common in Webroot with the same type of results.

You may need to disable your antivirus program from scanning and reinstall 
Window-eyes.  Then see if you can white list Window-eyes components or go to 
your antivirus manufacturer and have them white list Window-eyes.
They can always download the Window-eyes for users of Microsoft office offer 
and put it through their tests to make sure it isn't bad.
www.windoweyesforoffice.com



Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Strange Behavior with Window-eyes

I'm running Window-eyes 9.5.3 on a 64-bit edition of Windows 10, Anniversary 
Update. Window-eyes seems to behave as I would expect in Word and on the 
desktop.

Beyond that, it's almost acting as though certain components are not active. As 
an example, when I press the Windows key with R to bring up the Run dialog, all 
I hear is "r" without the prompt, even though the dialog seems to be there.

I brought up a non-VFO screen reader, which confirmed the presence of the run 
dialog. Once I closed that screen reader, I would find the run dialog in the 
alt-tab list but, once I place focus on that dialog, Window-eyes is silent, 
behaving as though nothing was present, not giving me any speech.

When I open the preinstalled Mail app it gives me no feedback as I press keys, 
but if I alt-tab out of the window and then alt-tab back in I might hear the 
name of a button which might have focus.

Obviously, something has gotten corrupted. I just did a total uninstall and 
reinstall of Window-eyes and would prefer a simpler solution to fix this. Could 
someone offer any suggestions?



-- 
   David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

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RE: win eyes and kurzweil

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Isn't the Kurzweil appointments self-voicing?  In that case Window-eyes should 
go to sleep.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:25 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: win eyes and kurzweil

Morning all:

 

We is having a little dispute with kurzweil reminders.

 

When kurzweil comes up speaking an appointment date, win eyes does not load may 
I say properley.

 

It takes a long time and sometimes not at all.

 

I guess the question is, do I have start before log in

Do I start win eyes after log in

Or do I start win eyes after all users.

 

I don't use a password, I am the only user, and I have set myself as 
administrater.

 

With this problem

 

I am running office 2007, windows 7, and latest version of win eyes

Thanks

Don

A little guidance would help me out 

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RE: APPS, on / off?

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Apps/app management/app status.

Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 8:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: APPS, on / off?

Hi there FOLKS!

I have a qustion, where do I go under the W.E. control pannel to see which APPS 
are installed as well as there status, on / off?  I believe I may have asked 
this question but do not remember if I received an answer.  My appologies if 
this question has already been answered.  
THANKS & Have A Good 1! de

.

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RE: Future of WE

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi, 
it was 9.1 to current. 9.2 was the actual paid version, 9.3, 9.4 and 9.5 have 
all been free and haven't counted against an SMA.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Andre via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 6:16 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Future of WE

No, it's not an sma. That was just the price to upgrade certain versions of WE 
beginning with v8 I believe. An sma would apply towards major upgrades.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:48 PM
To: bj colt; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Isn't that an SMA?  I mean $49 was not the whole price of a copy of window 
eyes.  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: bj colt via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:17 AM
To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Hi,

As far as I am aware aisquared are no longer selling s m a's. In an email from 
someone at aisquared a few months ago. The person sending the email to asquared 
asked if s m a's could be purchased and how much they were. The aisquared 
person stated that the cost of an upgrade was $49 but did not mention s m a's. 
Leading me to believe then that window-eyes was not safe at that point.

I keep a very slight hope that window-eyes will survive but all the signs say 
it won't. A good Company with a good Public Relations office would have kept 
window-eyes customers up to date with internal events in VFO. Sadly this 
company hasn't, neither has aisquared. It is the lack of information that is 
the problem. Taking into account dealers being informed that window-eyes and 
related products will no longer be on offer after December the first is 
extremely worrying. Add up all the negatives one does get an idea window-eyes 
will be discontinued. As there are absolutely no positives.
What else are window-eyes customers to conclude. All down to both VFO and 
Asquared for not keeping us up to date. As window-eyes customers we have the 
right to be informed about the product we have loyally supported for over two 
decades.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message-
From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common these days.  If 
they are still selling s m a contracts, that is a little odd.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On
Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

> With several employees leaving AI Squared and VFO instructing dealers 
> to no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something?
>
> -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave'
> Subject: Re: Future of WE
>
> I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to 
> switch to another screen reader at this moment.
>
> On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>>  Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo.
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Talk
>>  [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>  On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM
>>  To: A I Squared Support
>>  Subject: Future of WE
>>
>>  I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very
>>  limited, as in soon to be Discontinued.   But, who knows for sure.  The
>>  Parent Company might be slow and Cumbersome which makes them slow to do
>>  anything that gets back to the customersSlow to announce new stuff,
>>  slow to bring out Updates, slow to Fix problems etc.
>>
>>  I too am starting to use NVDA a bit more.   On my System, NVDA is just a
>>  touch slower, and I am still not understanding it way of reading 
>> parts of  the screen, at least not consistently.
>>
>>  email, MS Word and the Internet all seem to read well enough.  Some 
>> times  a  bit too much is spoken, and I am still learning how to make 
>> NVDA speak  less.
>>
>>  And to be fair, NVDA is not Free, but you can obtain it for Free, 
>> use it,  and if you like it, then the owners and creators of NVDA 
>> would love to see  a  Donation come their way.  Money does motivate 
>> the continued improvement of  their product.
>>
>>  If more money had been coming into GW Micro, then A I Squared would not
>>  have bought GW Micro.   and this discussion would never have taken 
>> place.
>>
>>  I doubt if any of us would work for Free indefinitely.   And the guys
>>  who have put NVDA together would not put in so much effort into NVDA 
>> if  they  did not receive enough to make it worth their time and 
>> energy.
>>
>>  The thing about NVDA is that you 

RE: How to coppy my WE to another profile

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

A better solution, do you have the installer for your custom app?
If you copied the bad profile into the good, the good would be bad.
Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Shannon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:08 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: How to coppy my WE to another profile

Hello,

I have been having some trouble with WE and another program here at work.
It has been suggested that I 1. Either create a new profile or 2. Log in as 
another user profile with Administrator rights.
This is trying to determine  if my User profile is corrupted and helping to 
cause some of my crashing and issues.
I was able to log into a different Administrator window profile and have WE 
come up but my custom app for this particular program did not come up under 
that profile.

How can I copy my "Working" we and apps over to another windows profile?
That way I can use the custom app under that user to see if the "Shannon" 
profile is corrupted in some way? 

Thanks so very much.
Shannon

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RE: Google Sheets

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Here is a 4 hour and 45 minute tutorial on Drive, Docs, Sheets etc.:

http://www.mysticaccess.com/other-audio-tutorials/google-suite-of-products-audio-tutorial

The tutorial is a fully navigable DAISY digital talking book and can be played 
in most DAISY hardware/software players.  Note it isn't free but should give 
you what you need.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Barbara via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes 
Subject: Google Sheets

Hello Everyone,

I am on a subcommittee and the lead on the senior committee has send out a link 
requesting us to enter basic data.  It is google sheets.  I have never used it 
before.  I did click and tried to move around but I was not any clearer than 
when I began.  Smile.  I have done a very small amount of work in Excel a few 
years ago, but that is my limited experience with spread sheets.

Is this accessible?  How to navigate?  How to enter some data?

I use Windows 7, WE 9.5.3.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara

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RE: WE Losing focus

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
If using AVG, go to its options, advance. And turn off display tooltips.
I have seen this cause focus issues...perhaps Whatever antivirus your running 
has an option to turn off tooltips.

Chris



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:00 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

Russ Kiehne writes:

I'm currently running windows live mail 2012 and under the Mail tab, there is 
no such option called "show an envelope
  icon when new mail arrives.".


Same here.

When new mail arrives, Window-Eyes loses focus.

How can I correct this?

How about it Window-Eyes support?

-Bob Ringwald
r...@ringwald.com

-Original Message-
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 3:02 PM
To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

After I do alt f, when I type t, it dings at me.  I have seen options, but I 
don't know what to do when I'm in there.  Pam.
-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:26 PM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Bob,

I haven't looked at WLM in a few years, so I'm going from memory. From the 
inbox, press Alt-F, T to open the WLM options. Next, go to the Mail tab, and 
look for an option that says something to the effect of, "show an envelope icon 
when new mail arrives." Uncheck it, hit Enter to accept the change, and you 
should be all set.

If that doesn't work or you can't locate the option, I recommend pingging the 
Microsoft Disability Answer Desk for help. They can be reached at (800) 
936-5900.

Hope this helps.
Steve


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From: Robert Ringwald [mailto:r...@ringwald.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:17 PM
To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

And how do I do this?

-Bob Ringwald


-Original Message-
From: Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: WE Losing focus

Disabling the option to have new mail notifications appear in the system tray 
in WLM itself should fix this.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: Talk 
Subject: WE Losing focus

Ever since installing the latest version of WE, when ever I am reading or 
writing a WLM email,or doing work using Word, when ever a new email comes in, 
WE loses focus and goes somewhere else. I have to fish around, especially if I 
have several windows open, in order to find and continue my work.


Why is this? Is there any way to stop
WE from doing this?



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RE: Window-Eyes free edition

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

The Microsoft license modification isn't necessary, it was only necessary for 
8.4.

You need to have office installed and run it once and sign into the account.
Restarting Window-eyes after that should bring it out of demo mode.

Chris

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:49 PM
To: 'Martin Brown' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: Window-Eyes free edition

Hello Martin.  Sky here.  I have recently had to deal with this problem for a 
client of mine. Here's how we fixed it.  I opened up Microsoft word on her 
computer. Window-Eyes told us to sign into her office 365 acount. So we signed 
into her office 365 acount.  Once we did that, Window-Eyes was fully 
authorised. Pluss, I enabled the office licence modification setting. To do 
this, do the following:

1.  Press control and the back slash key to enter the Window-Eyes control panel.

2. Press alt and the letter A to open the apps menu.

3.  Press the D key to get into the diagnostics menu.

4.  Press the M key to open up the Microsoft office pull down menu

5.  Press the down arrow key once to get to Microsoft office licence 
modification.

6. Press the enter key to activate  the option.  At this point, Window-Eyes 
will ask you if you want to perform the office modification, followed by a 
yes/no prompt.

7. Press alt Y to activate the yes button, and for Window-Eyes to make the 
required adjustment.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Martin Brown via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 3:36 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Window-Eyes free edition

I have a friend who recently installed the Microsoft 365 package on her 
computer. She has also installed the free version of Window-Eyes which should 
give her a fully functioning version of the programme. However, it will only 
run in Demo mode. Is there a way to correct this short of reinstalling.
Many thanks in advance.
Martin  

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RE: WE Losing focus

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

It isn't recommended to use this command if you have a functioning Window-eyes 
as files do not properly close.
It is like unplugging your computer and plugging it back in.
If you can, unload Window-eyes properly with control-insert-f4, enter.  Then 
alt-control-w.




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:49 AM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: WE Losing focus

alt control W will unload and reload wineyes. Hitting this combo once will 
accomplish the unloading and reloading of wineyes.

On 11/19/2016 8:57 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
> Pam, I don't use WLM, but I have a similar experience with ThunderBird.
> Although this might not be a perminant solution it does work for me.  
> I press the CTRL+backslash then exit W.E. and then press the 
> ctrl+alt+w to restart Window-Eyes.  As I stated this usually works for 
> me.  Good Luck and Have A  Good 1! de
>
> .  then exit
>
>
> On 19-Nov-16 18:02, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>> After I do alt f, when I type t, it dings at me.  I have seen 
>> options, but I don't know what to do when I'm in there.  Pam.
>> -Original Message- From: Steve Clower via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:26 PM
>> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: WE Losing focus
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I haven't looked at WLM in a few years, so I'm going from memory. 
>> From the inbox, press Alt-F, T to open the WLM options. Next, go to 
>> the Mail tab, and look for an option that says something to the 
>> effect of, "show an envelope icon when new mail arrives." Uncheck it, 
>> hit Enter to accept the change, and you should be all set.
>>
>> If that doesn't work or you can't locate the option, I recommend 
>> pingging the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk for help. They can be 
>> reached at (800) 936-5900.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert Ringwald [mailto:r...@ringwald.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 3:17 PM
>> To: Steve Clower ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: WE Losing focus
>>
>> And how do I do this?
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Steve Clower via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:56 AM
>> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: WE Losing focus
>>
>> Disabling the option to have new mail notifications appear in the 
>> system tray in WLM itself should fix this.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:48 PM
>> To: Talk 
>> Subject: WE Losing focus
>>
>> Ever since installing the latest version of WE, when ever I am 
>> reading or writing a WLM email,or doing work using Word, when ever a 
>> new email comes in, WE loses focus and goes somewhere else. I have to 
>> fish around, especially if I have several windows open, in order to 
>> find and continue my work.
>>
>>
>> Why is this? Is there any way to stop WE from doing this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
>> Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
>> 916/ 806-9551
>> Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV
>>
>> trump's first action after being sworn in will be an executive order
>> banning
>> the sale of pre-shredded cheese, to make American grate again.
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RE: Window-Eyes free edition

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,

1.  Make sure the  person has actually ran one of the following, word, excel 
powerpoint and not just installed office.
2.  make sure the person is using Microsoft speech platform, or eSpeak as the 
voice.  If they chose eloquence, vocalizer expressive or another premium 
synthesizer without paying for them, this will turn it into a demo.

3.  repair Microsoft office from programs and features.  Use the online repair 
not the quick one.

One of the above should fix the problem.

Chris
Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of matthew dyer via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:08 AM
To: Martin Brown ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Window-Eyes free edition

Is she signed in with her ms account?  If so, I think there is a run 
diegnostics tole in the we menus which should fix her problem.  HTH.


Matthew





On 11/20/2016 06:36 AM, Martin Brown via Talk wrote:
> I have a friend who recently installed the Microsoft 365 package on her
> computer. She has also installed the free version of Window-Eyes which
> should give her a fully functioning version of the programme. However, it
> will only run in Demo mode. Is there a way to correct this short of
> reinstalling.
> Many thanks in advance.
> Martin
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RE: office X to get access to window eyes

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Office 2010, 2013, 2016 Office 365.

Prices could be all over the map.  Just make sure 2010 isn't starter, that 
won't work.
Chris



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Keith S via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:01 PM
To: gwmicro 
Subject: office X to get access to window eyes

First off, is the deal with I-squared and Microsoft X still viable?

If so, what eversion of Microsoft office do I need to be able to use the "free" 
version of window eyes?

Second, how much do licenses for said office programs cost?

Thanks

I am still running a windows xp machine and have not kept up with the upgrades 
to window eyes due to not being able to use them on an xp machine.

I am trying to get my wife to help me purchase a new computer, but you know...

Keith
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RE: "working in background, normal select."

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Go to mouse and set pointer identification to off.
Chris


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of drew clark via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:51 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: "working in background, normal select."

Hi,

that's what i get starting from yesterday, i don't know what setting i/messed 
up, but any way to correct it? it keep saying that, for example, i hit alt tab 
and it will say it.
/

/thanks/

/sent from thunderbird with window eyes from aisquared!/

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RE: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

What alt-a method?
It is alt-apostrophe or alt-semicolon.

They don't work unless you have spell as you go enabled in word.

Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:06 PM
To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Spell Check A Outlook 2016 message

Try f7.

On 10/30/2016 10:09 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> Hi: Just tried the alt-a method described in a WE document from 2013 
> which did not seem to work.
> What is the process to spell check a e-mail document in outlook 2016, 
> that is find mispelled words and select an option for correct spelling?
> Rick USA
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RE: Becky email

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Make sure you configure it as stated here:

http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB2061



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Becky email

Hi there Folks!

Was just on the Becky email site, and it appeared as though it supported 
several operating systems.  Unfortunately I didn't see Windows 10 listed there. 
 I presume it will work with 10 but just thought I would check.  
Thanks & Have A Great Day! de

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RE: How to reset default profile

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
1.  Go to apps/app status and turn off apps.
2. reboot.
3.  when the system comes back up go back into the Window-eyes control panel
Alt-f, e.
When the list of files comes up, backspace.
4.  arrow to default and press f2 to rename it.  Call it old default.
5. restart Window-eyes.

Chris

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:37 AM
To: Doug Geoffray ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: How to reset default profile

Members
Support gave me the advise to reset my default profile. How might one 
accomplish this?
Thanks
Jim
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RE: dec access 32 software synthesizer

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,

You'll need to go to the sound card properties and turn off enhancements.

This should make Decaccess more understandable.

Remember, Decaccess hasn't changed in 20 years or so.

Chris

Chris

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 7:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: dec access 32 software synthesizer

Does anyone know if GW micro once sold copies of Dec Access 32  as a separate 
software synthesizer? I bought a copy and don't remember from who. I need 
another one for my laptop running win ten.  I've had allot of problems 
understanding what I'm hearing with dec access  32 that comes packaged with 
window eyes.
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RE: dec access 32 software synthesizer

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

To clear up any confusion.
Years ago  there was a version of Decaccess that was sold that would work with 
multiple products.
This synthesizer has not been sold for a number of years.

If you have the Window-eyes offer for users of Microsoft Office, you can 
purchase Dectalk for $25.
If you purchased a new 8.0 or later retail version of Window-eyes you can also 
buy Dectalk access for $25 as it wasn't included after that point.





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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2016 3:06 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: dec access 32 software synthesizer

There was a time, but they have not done so for many years. You cannot buy it 
that way anymore, only included as part of WE.

On Saturday, October 8, 2016, Rod Hutton via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Brice,
>
> As far as I know, they still sell it for $25 U.S., but it is intended 
> only for use with Window-Eyes for Office.
>
> Hth,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton = 
> hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com ] On Behalf Of brice 
> Mijares via Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 7:07 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List  
> >
> Subject: dec access 32 software synthesizer
>
> Does anyone know if GW micro once sold copies of Dec Access 32  as a 
> separate software synthesizer? I bought a copy and don't remember from 
> who. I need another one for my laptop running win ten.  I've had allot 
> of problems understanding what I'm hearing with dec access  32 that 
> comes packaged with window eyes.
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RE: Decaccess 32 resolved.

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Are you hearing ascending tones at start?
Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Decaccess 32 resolved.

Okay, my Decaccess 32 problem if fixed and now I have control of pitch and tone 
settings. Now, in Windows 10 I find the mouse pointer about useless 95 percent 
of the time. Reading the current window shift control W never works. In TB, 
while composing mail  can read current line with control num pad 5, but control 
num pad 8 no longer works. Matter a fact, control num pad 5 is the only  one 
the works. In a list view anywhere in windows  can't get shift control S to 
work the way it's suppose to, nor can I move by mouse clips, I believe that's 
what it called where you hold down the mouse insert key  hit number 9 to go 
forward, . Insert 4,5, and 6 no long read previous current and next letter 
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RE: the future of Window-Eyes

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Just to note: that issue is in our bug database.

Thanks,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:37 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: the future of Window-Eyes

Hi, Rod,
I also was wondering if Aaron Smith was still around.

A few weeks ago i sent Aaron a message regarding a long standing bug in WE but 
did not receive a reply.  Going on previous emails, this is very much unlike 
Aaron so was wondering if he was still around.

The bug, which has been around for a few releases,is where the reading of 
columns and headers can not be permantly turned off in the WE Control Panel.

Cheers
Neville.


On 11/10/2016 8:57 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Drew,
>
> Oh yes, he is very much there.
>
> All the best,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Drew Clark via Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:47 PM
> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> ; tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
> Subject: Re: the future of Window-Eyes
>
> hi, is aaron smith still in gwmicro? i just listened to the did you 
> know series on window eyes
>
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 2:49 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike:
>>
>> I think it depends on which features of Window-eyes, if any, they 
>> incorporate into JAWS.
>>
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>> On 10/3/16, Mike Bernard via Talk  wrote:
>>> Gentlemen, it all comes down to this, capitalistic propaganda. The 
>>> more pricy stuff gets, the more money comes out of our pockets, and 
>>> goes into the company's. Yes I understand that they are trying to 
>>> run a business, but there has to be a balance somewhere. Like many 
>>> of you, I've been a loyal Window-Eyes user for years, and if they 
>>> ever got rid of it, I'd switch to NVDA. Jaws is ridiculously 
>>> expensive. Most of the staff at ACB Radio use Jaws, so whenever I 
>>> get remote tech assistance from them, I'll often fire up the demo 
>>> version of Jaws, which offers the remote assistance feature, and 
>>> it's what they're used to using. I could be wrong, but Trying to 
>>> incorporate Window-Eyes into Jaws to me, sounds like some sneaky way 
>>> to try to get everybody to switch over to Jaws.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you like classic rock? Do you like to shake your groove with 
>>> disco, eighties new wave,  90s hiphop or today's latest hits? If so, 
>>> Check out my show every Wednesday night from 7 to 9 pm on ACB Radio 
>>> Interactive at
>>>
>>>  www.acbradio.org/interactive
>>>
>>>
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RE: Unable to Save Default Set File/Window-eyes for Office/9.5.3

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Unless it was a bad install, you can turn off apps, reboot and then nuke the GW 
Micro folder in %appdata%

Window-eyes will rebuild the profile after you reload Window-eyes again.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:45 AM
To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Unable to Save Default Set File/Window-eyes for Office/9.5.3

I solved my problem.

After going into the factory settings dialog, I saw that none of the default 
sets were installed and, even after trying to install them, it kept saying na 
for the version number. I figured it was just easier to uninstall and reinstall 
Window-eyes, rather than trying to do surgery on profiles. This method worked 
and I now have a working copy of Window-eyes, working normally.



   David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 10/17/2016 10:51 AM, via Talk wrote:
> Hi, Dave.
>
> Did you press the activate button in the synthesizers dialog?
>
> Lou N.
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:36 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Unable to Save Default Set File/Window-eyes for Office/9.5.3
>
> Hi. For quite some time, I've installed and used several versions of 
> Windoweyes for Office. As I was a version behind I decided to install
> 9.5.3 on my Windows 10 Anniversary Update PC.
> I downloaded and installed it and the installation seemed to go 
> without any issues. However, when I ran Window-eyes I noticed there 
> was no speech output (my synth was ESpeak.) By using another screen 
> reader, I discovered that the synth had been set to None, which I 
> found odd. I set it to ESpeak, adjusted voice parameters to my liking 
> and pressed alt-S to save my settings. When I did this, I received a 
> dialog, saying "system error. Unable to save file." I could not find 
> anything in the knowledge base matching this problem and would welcome 
> any suggestions as to how to remedy this. If this issue is not listed 
> in the knowledge base, I'd like to offer a suggestion that the VFO 
> staff consider writing an article about this, along with its solution.
>
> Many thanks.
>

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RE: What is Jart?

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Google Sheets.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 10:18 PM
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: What is Jart?

Hello,

Jart is a small Word Pad like Word Processor program.  I use it over MS Word, 
and find it does everything I need a Word Processor to do.  

Has the old style Pull Down menu's that lend themselves for easier use
than those stupid Ribbon menus of the last 10 years.I am sure there
must be some logic to those ribbon menus, but I find them only to make using MS 
Word that much more difficult.  

I use Jart 5.3, and not the 5.4.  I did install the 5.4, but found I could not 
use it with my Screen Reader.  This may have changed by now, or perhaps there 
is some switch in the Jart 5.4 edition I have yet to find.  

The Spell Checker works well and is easy.  

For the typical Home Writing project, Jart should do everything a person would 
need.  

MS Office is a Bloated Over Priced package with so many features few would ever 
use them at home.  

Sorry, personal opinion here.  

Now if I could find a nice small Spread Sheet program.  Anyone know one that 
works with speech, other than Excel?  


Grumpy Dave




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RE: colors in Word 2007

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Move to the text you want to see the color of and press control-numpad-delete.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: colors in Word 2007

Hello.

I am currently trying to print a mailing label.  I don't think it is printing 
correctly.  I looked under the font settings and there is a button there which 
states that the color is white.  Shouldn't it be black if one is printing on 
white paper?  How do I know what color to choose and can someone tell me what I 
should do to make sure the color is actually black on a white sheet of paper?  
I looked at something that said black text, but it had numbers after it, and 
the numbers changed as I arrowed down.  The numbers were things like black text 
20, black text 15, etc.  Also, what does the automatic button do?  Thank you.

Carol


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RE: Clipboard keys

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Make sure your key label dictionary is enabled under dictionaries.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:54 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Clipboard keys

hi all

With the latest W-E and Windows7, W-E suddenly stopped saying "copy to 
clipboard" ETC.  How do I get that back.  I've been wandering around in the 
labyrinth without success.

--
Reg


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RE: WE hot key

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hot keys/miscellaneous/toggle all voices.

Chris


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:48 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: WE hot key

Lloyd wrote in part:

"There is a command to turn speech off and to turn it back on again, while 
leaving Window-Eyes running."

Where within Window-eyes settings can I invoke such a setting?  It's something 
I've tried to do, but just can't figure out how to find the correct info to 
make it happen.  Gracious thanks for all help!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: default browser

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Window-eyes should do this for you.
However, if it doesn't There is a screen reader setting in edges settings.
Chris



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:02 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: default browser

I thought I had read something that says that there is also supposed to be a 
way with Anniversary Edition to cause Cortana results to be displayed by 
Internet Explorer instead of Microsoft Edge, but that it is separate from the 
default browser setting.  As I recall, it was a change to the registry before 
the Anniversary Edition but could be done through an interface now.
Does anybody have any information about this?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:47 AM
To: Linette Sukup ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: default browser

Linette,

Just open the Cortana search box with the Windows key and start typing Default. 
You'll get Default programs. Press enter and tab down through the buttons for 
mail, music, etc. until you find whatever browser is the default.
You can also enter Choose a default browser and that will put you in the same 
window right on the browser button.

Hth,
Tom


On 12/15/2016 9:36 AM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:
>
>
> Windows 10, latest WE I thought that I had set Firefox as my default 
> browser, but Win 10 keeps wanting me to use Edge and Internet Explorer.
>
> How do I change this, or is it best to call the accessibility number?
> Thank you.
>
> Peace.
> LineLinette
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RE: need some win 10 help

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
This is correct.
Chris


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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: need some win 10 help

Can someone tell me what set file should be associated when windows explore is 
open? On my system, no file is associated. It says default.set. Same when going 
into the desktop folder Owner. Please refresh my memory if it's suppose to be 
explore.set. If so, how do I go about associating it. thanks.
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RE: WE not speaking in edit box

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Make sure the window is maximized.  Refresh the accessibility libraries from 
apps/diagnostics/refresh accessibility libraries and reboot.




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On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: WE not speaking in edit box

Hello.

I have run into this problem before, but it usually goes away with restarting 
Window-Eyes or in extreme cases, restarting the computer.  I have a friend that 
can't get Window-Eyes to read her edit box when she presses the F2 key.  We 
restarted her PC (Windows 7) and I had her select an icon on the desktop.  By 
pressing the home key and arrowing through, the speech was normal, reading each 
character.  We went to the folder she wanted to rename files in and did the 
same procedure, but there was no speech as long as the F2 key was pressed.  I 
went through her Window-Eyes settings and could not find anything that would 
make the speech silent on the edit box.  Am I missing something?  Thanks for 
your suggestions.

Carol


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RE: jarte

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

That was
Enable screen reader mode


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:57 AM
To: brice Mijares <bricemija...@att.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: jarte

Copy the text
Screen reader mode
To your clipboard and restart Jarte.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: jarte

I downloaded the current version of Jarte and find it much different than the 
last version I ran on my laptop running Vista.  Is there a way to get a 
previous version that recognizes a screen reader? Thanks.
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RE: jarte

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Copy the text
Screen reader mode
To your clipboard and restart Jarte.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: jarte

I downloaded the current version of Jarte and find it much different than the 
last version I ran on my laptop running Vista.  Is there a way to get a 
previous version that recognizes a screen reader? Thanks.
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RE: Open Office

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Google docs/sheets works well using Firefox, Chrome etc.
If looking for a free/low cost word-processing program, Jarte from jarte.com 
works well.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 1:01 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Open Office

Gw attempted quite a while ago to have WE work with Open Office.  It 
never worked well enough to be useful.  Now I find that NVDA works 
pretty darn good with Open office.
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RE: minimum version of window eyes on a windows 8 machine?

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

This is correct.
8.4 is the recommended version in the 8x branch.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 6:13 AM
To: Keith S ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: minimum version of window eyes on a windows 8 machine?

Hi Keith,

I'm fairly sure Window-Eyes 8.x will work on Windows 8.
The contact info for AI Squared, from the About Window-Eyes dialog, in the Help 
menu, in the Window-Eyes control panel is:
Ai Squared
130 Taconic Business Park Road
Manchester Center, VT 05255
USA
802-362-3612

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Keith S via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:50 AM
To: gwmicro 
Subject: minimum version of window eyes on a windows 8 machine?

What version of window eyes will work on a windows 8 machine?

also, what is the cntact phone number and email for i squared/gwmicro now?

Thanks

Keith
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RE: Using Window Eyes forever? maybe not!

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Nothing will happen.  Registering just means updating contact information.

Chris



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:39 PM
To: A I Squared Support 
Subject: Using Window Eyes forever? maybe not! 

Hello,

Bought a System yesterday with Windows 7 installed.  Was getting it set up and 
noticed that at the End of installing Window Eyes 8.3, my only Disk with the 
full install of Window Eyes, the install asks me to go On Line to Register.  
The System was not hooked up to the Internet, but it caused me to have a 
question about the future.  

If, and I am say the word, IF, so IF Window Eyes ever becomes no more, and 
there is no more support, no more Web Site, no more anything for Window Eyes.  
What happens when Window eyes 8.X or 9.X is installed but there is no place to 
register it?  

Will Window Eyes stop working in 30 days?  Go into Demo mode?  

Was just wondering.  

This new system will eventually go On Line, and I'll re-register Win Eyes after 
installing 9.5.  

but, what does happen when Window Eyes is not Registered?  

Grumpy Dave


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RE: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

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The newer Tripletalk mini doesn't have a built in battery and turns on when the 
computer turns on and off when it goes off.  It also has a slide switch for 
volume.  No power switch.
I think it is around $200.



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:43 AM
To: net bat ; Window Eyes 
Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

I also use a power strip to turn off all the equipment but the Double Talk had 
a hard wired builtin battery whichneeded to be turned off at the unit.  This, 
over time, stuffed it up.

Neville.


On 5/12/2016 4:38 PM, net bat wrote:
> i use  a power strip to turn everything off. i would rather wear out 
> the power strip then the power buttons on my equipment
>
> -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: Casey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
>
> Hi,
> Over the years, I have used both the external Double Talk and the 
> Tripple Talk syns and would never bother with an external unit again.
> These units were of the serial type and both were quite expensive for 
> what they were.
>
> The Double talk needed to be turned off with the on off volume switch 
> at the end of each session to save the internal battery.  In time, the 
> volume control became quite scratchy and eventually I gave it up.
>
> The Tripple Talk went the same way but in a much shorter time frame. 
> In comparison, I found the Tripple Talk to be not worth the money.  
> Maybe the later versions have improved.
>
>
> For some time now I have used a Creative usb external sound card 
> costing around $60 connected to a pair of speakers with a volume 
> control. If the volume ever becomes scratchy, it is an inexpensive 
> solution just to replace the speakers. This setup has been working for 
> years without any problems.
>
> I mainly use Eloquence as my software syn and find it very responsive.
> The other benefit to using a software syn is that there are many good 
> free voices which can be easily obtained.
>
> Currently I have WE and Eloquence running through the external sound 
> card and have another  voice setup to run through the internal sound 
> card if required. NVDA also is setup to run through the internal 
> cardwhich gives me a way of tracing any problems if WE will not talk 
> through the external card.
>
> In short, save your money and get an external sound card as mentioned 
> above. With the modern fast computers, lack of responsiveness is not a 
> big a problem as it once was.
>
> Neville.
>
> On 5/12/2016 2:42 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>> Hi I am thinking about maybe getting one of these synthesizers.
>> The triple talk USB or the dectalk USB.
>> Witch is the better one that will give the fastest response time and 
>> work the best with window-eyes?
>> now I know it maybe personal choice.
>> But I know A few of you out hear of used either one of both of these 
>> units so all comments and suggestions are welcome.
>> And if you like one over the other please tell us why that is.
>>
>>
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RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

I thought only the teacher and adults talked like that in peanuts land? (smile)


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Guess i will try to investigate these.  Never understood what they were for and 
when people talk about them, I feel like one of the Peanuts kids.  Everything 
sounds like: "wha, wah wah, wah."  No matter how long a use computers, I'm 
still a dummy.



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:52:21 -0500
Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:

> Pam,
> 
> User windows are a very powerful feature that are really more or less 
> scripting in another form. Unfortunately everyone ignored them because they 
> weren't called scripting.
> 
> You can create standard windows relative to screen coordinates or floating 
> windows that automatically adjust their coordinates based on several 
> different things. You can make them speak with a hot key or make them speak 
> automatically or make them silent. You can tie them to specific colors, have 
> them watch for highlighting, or not, and on and on.
> 
> Then there are hyperactive windows. These monitor the defined area in many 
> different ways and can react in many different ways, e.g. say something, 
> speak a window, execute a hot key, load a set file, and on and on.
> 
> I remember how everyone was so excited when scripting was introduced. I only 
> shook my head thinking we had a lot of that power from the beginning through 
> these windows. It was amazing how some jumped on scripting while prior to its 
> introduction everyone seemed to scream and run every time I mentioned user 
> windows.
> 
> You won't even see them in the control panel unless "Show advanced options" 
> is checked under the Help menu.
> 
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 11/28/2016 8:51 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> > Okay, at the risk of sounding stupid:  what are these user windows 
> > you are talking about?  pam.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:10 PM
> > To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
> >
> > I Miss a big big feature  that is no longer in the version 9.X of 
> > Window eyes.  I use those User Windows, in a couple of Set Files 
> > I've created for a couple of programs I use.  Without those User 
> > Windows, Window Eyes 9.x does not give me the same abilities as 
> > Window Eyes 8.X This for the way I use Window Eyes is going backwards.
> >
> > This next one is a personal preference, but the way version 9.X Copies
> > Text on the Internet is not to my liking.It is not Windows Standard.
> > I find the New way to copy text a bit Funky, and I tend to get more 
> > text than I want.
> >
> >
> > I dislike other minor issues in Version 9.X, and so it isn't a 
> > matter of going backwards, but more of a consistency issue.
> >
> > I suspect the problem I occasionally have is a Script problem, and 
> > not so much a Window Eyes problem.  From time to time, I have major 
> > problems using Gold Wave 6 in Windows 10.
> >
> > I no longer have the ability to Read to End when reading Email in Becky.
> >
> > When in File Explorer, I cannot use the Send To feature because 
> > either the Script is not reading what Drives I have available, or 
> > Windows 10 is not displaying the Drives.
> >
> >> From time to time, the drives are read by Window Eyes, but only one time.
> > If I want to send another file, then the Drives no longer are shown, 
> > or read by Window Eyes 9.5.
> >
> > This last problem started after downloading the Anniversary Edition 
> > of Windows 10.
> >
> > These last three issues are probably Script issues.  Either they did 
> > not load correctly, or once loaded, failed to work properly.  But, 
> > if there is no more development on Window Eyes, it is small stuff 
> > like this that never will be fixed. And it is little stuff like this 
> > that will force me to buy JAWS or some other Screen Reader.
> >
> > I find the operation of the Mouse to be very different in 9.X than I 
> > did in 8.X.  this too has more to do with consistency, because there 
> > are times I can use the Mouse, but too much of the time, it doesn't 
> > work or read as well as it did in 8.X.
> >
> > I also had a Big disappointment, and a Complaint about the Bugginess of
> > the 9.0, 9.1,9.2, 9.3 etc.In my opinion, none of these editions were
> > quite ready for paying customers.   Not until 9.4 and 9.5 did I feel
> > that Window Eyes 9 had gotten reliable enough to be sold to the 
> > general public and to existing Customers.
> >
> > I could 

RE: echo dot

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Hi,
Small correction.
You don't need a smart phone or tablet to work with Alexa.
As long as your computer has a wifi connection you can go to alexa.amazon.com 
and configure it there.



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: echo dot

 hi.  well this really doesn't relate to Window-eyes at all. but... 
i'll answer the questions after each one.




>   
>
> Once I connect to theinternet, then the questions.
>
>   
>
> First
>
> Can I connect to my computer and if so, where
The echo dot is not meant to connect to your computer in any way at all, it's a 
stand-alone device that requires you to have a wireless network. 
You plug the echo dot into a wall outlet, and then you connect to it with your 
smartphone or tablet in the settings screens under wi-fi.

  You must have a smart phone or a tablet and the Amazon Alexa app to set up 
and control any of the Echo devices. Once the Alexa app is installed, you'll 
need to sign in using your Amazon username and password.




>
>   
>
> Second:
>
> If I ask elexa to play neil diamond and it is on my computer, will it 
> play and if so, through my computer speakers or through the echo dot 
> Again, your computer isn't involved here, so it'll play through the echo dot. 
>  All the music that's played is through Amazon prime music if you have it, or 
> other services like Pandora, spotify and iheart radio.  You must use the 
> Alexa app to sign into each one of these services and allow the Alexa app to  
> access your account.





>   
>
> Last:
>
>   
>
> If all goes well and I am connect to the internet and I ask Alexa  
> what is the temperature in whatever, will it work?
It should certainly work. You'll need to tell the Alexa app your location so 
it'll find the weather for your location, though so you'll want to do that.  
The setup process is completely accessible, no sighted help is necessary at 
all, unless you just aren't good with a smart phone or tablet, then you might 
need to get some help setting things up. It all depends on your particular 
level of skills.  I was able to set up my regular echo and the echo dot in 
another part of the house without any sighted help, so you can rest easy 
knowing it is possible to do.

 I hope all this helps.


>

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RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

You were responded to directly on this list, why reply to the same question 
twice?
It was about your default set being loaded in file explorer.  This is correct.

Chris



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 9:35 PM
To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent support a 
question and still haven't heard back from them. What does this tell you?

On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:
> Hi there FOLKS!
>
> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far 
> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate
> future.  I really cannot say as much for the long run.   I called about
> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for 
> the future as far as that goes.  So Please do not start this BS about 
> Window-Eyes being dead again.  That, I can say I would GREATLY 
> APPRECIATE!. 
>
>
> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote:
>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing.  JAWS does a very 
>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job 
>> than Window Eyes.
>>
>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, and 
>> they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest 
>> upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, 
>> andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend an extra 
>> $200.
>> Then
>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has 
>> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems.
>>
>> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I 
>> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something 
>> else in my system that caused the system lock up.
>>
>> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves 
>> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear Grandmother's 
>> eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find her without 
>> someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl.
>>
>> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to do 
>> with the desperation of many who are Blind.
>>   Here is something to think about-
>> I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a 
>> Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM,  and a 750 GB Hard Drive, for 
>> $250.
>>
>> We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests 
>> them and puts them up for sale.
>> So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of 
>> JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure.
>>
>> When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as the 
>> computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that.
>>
>> And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the owners, 
>> and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem with a 
>> Company doing.  But there is the Greed factor that tends to raise its 
>> uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they believe 
>> the Market will bare.  And with most program sales getting paid for 
>> by our Government, the same government that will pay $600 for a Toilet Seat,
>> why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen Reader program?After all,
>> Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few people who are Blind can 
>> afford it, with most living on minimum wage jobs, or some level of 
>> Social Security.
>>
>> JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than 
>> Window Eyes, in some cases.
>>
>> I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they 
>> interacted with their customers.
>>
>> I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of 
>> people to work and deal with when you needed to do so.  From the days 
>> of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared  I 
>> felt their customer service and program support was very very good.  
>> And there were times when the guys could not fix what ever my issue was at 
>> the time.
>> But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a 
>> problem.
>>
>> I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, and 
>> so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or lock 
>> up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some other 
>> program, including Windows Itself  to be the culprit before I considered the
>> Screen Reader.   That is the very high level of reliability I came to
>> expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years.
>>
>> Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW Micro.
>> And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are 
>> now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if what 

RE: Wayning Window-eyes

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:17 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: RE: Wayning Window-eyes

Can someone let me know the unsbuscription details for this list please?


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steven.hicks=nhs@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: 19 December 2016 19:00
To: 'Brandon Miller'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Wayning Window-eyes

What is required is for VFO to say something.

Whilst I respect those who ask us to stop the speculation, they appear to be 
missing the evidence.

For example: if a product is basically free, and given that this free product's 
code is still protected - will there be on-going development or will the code 
be released into the public domain?

Given that there are numerous bugs some of which are long standing - will those 
bugs get replaced by other bugs as a new version is released?

Why would anyone - including myself - continue to purchase Window-eyes beynd 
Software Maintenance agreements, which at this stage, are looking unlikely to 
be honoured?

If VFO was annoyed with this enless speculation, why does it not use a listserv 
which it owns to give us some definitive answers to reasonable questions?

I am putting off the moment when I will be forced to agree to use to JFW.  But 
VFO continues to provide JFW UPDATES, BECAUSE IN TRUTH, vfo IS JUST THE FRONT 
FOR THE PREDATORY BEHAVIOURS OF Freedom Scientific.



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[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Miller via Talk
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2016 11:13 p.m.
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Wayning Window-eyes

All I can definitively tell you is this folks, I work full time professionally 
as an assistive technology instructor with a blindness agency every day. At a 
recent retreat, the thinking throughout the room did most certainly seem to be 
that VFO most likely does have plans to quote unquote, kill off, Window-eyes, 
either now or in the not too distant future. The question I asked was, why are 
we, that is the assistive tech department, going to officially be promoting the 
use of NVDA as a free screen reader, and not Window-eyes? My logic being that 
Window-eyes can also essentially be free as well. That's when several replies 
came back that gave me the distinct impression that Window-eyes'
days may in truth be numbered. I hope that's not the case; I've been a customer 
of Gw Micro since the Vocal-eyes days! Anyone here remember those days? Back 
when it used to be Jaws for Dos, versus Vocal-eyes? I remember when it used to 
be Arkenstone who sold Openbook, not Freedom Scientific. I do feel that Gw 
Micro personnel do need to innovate, and do need to perhaps learn new ways of 
becoming freshly and aggressively competitive. I certainly hope the shark 
doesn't gobble up everybody, yuck!

Brandon Miller

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RE: Need an antivirus product identified

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

You would also need sighted assistance to remove webroot as it requires you to 
solve a captcha.


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 8:52 PM
To: 'Donald L. Roberts' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion 
List' 
Subject: RE: Need an antivirus product identified

Hi, Donald.  I had to wrack my brains for a short time, and then the name of 
the program came to me.  The program is Called Web Root Security Suite.  No, I 
do not and will not have the program installed after I recall the issues
Ray Campbel encountered when the program was installed.I'll bet the
program is a good one, but it certainly wreaks havoc with Window-eyes  I am
not implying that I have used Web Root Security suite, trust me.  .

Mike M. 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+massey52=q@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 5:55 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Need an antivirus product identified

A few months ago, Ray Campbell cautioned the list members that a particular 
antivirus product incorrectly identified some components of Window-eyes as 
being a virus. Please tell me the name of that product so my technician can 
avoid using that product when cleaning my system.


Thanks.


Don Roberts


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RE: rocan or ghrome cast

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Chromecast is a device that connects to a TV.
You can send programs to it using a tablet, phone or Google Home.
It doesn't speak on its own.

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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:42 PM
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Subject: rocan or ghrome cast

Hi Folks:

 

Anybody using or has info on rocan or chrome cast.

Both seem to have some input on interfacing with tv and tv guide.

 

Info is a little weak and perhaps a long shot

Thanks

Don

 

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