[OSM-talk] I am running generate_tiles.py under python and it generates tiles but after a minute it stops before completing all the zoom levels
Hi, I am running generate_tiles.py under python ( by starting Python 2.5 -> IDLE (Python GUI) opening the generate_tiles.py file and then selecting Run -> Run Module ) and it generates tiles but after a minute it stops before completing all the zoom levels. I then try rerunning and then it runs a little further but then it also stops before completing all zoom levels. John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] mapping hardware, laser rangefinder
Lukasz Stelmach poczta.fm> writes: > > Hello. > > I like mapping and I like gadgets (that's why I like mapping ;) I am > considering purchase of a laser range finder. I think a cheap one like these > > http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=77-018 > http://www.bosch.de/start/content/language2/html/734_6098.htm The first one is not laser rangefinder, it works by echoing an ultrasonic sound. I would not recommend it for outdoor use. The latter might be usable. Fine but quite expensive SOLO Field software has nice user interface for rangefinders. There may be a demo available at http://www.tdsway.com/products/solo_field. GPS and rangefinder is a fine combination when surveying under canopy. Why not also for mapping buildings in street canyons. GPS measument is taken where satellite fix is OK and the rest is corrected by a rangefinder. Professional rangefinders have also electronic compass for giving the direction of correction. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Thursday 29 Oct 2009 4:35:40 pm John Smith wrote: > > look, a few days back someone (I think it was Richard Fairhurst) started > > a campaign asking google to allow us to trace their imagery. A lot of us > > signed up. The answer was a flat 'no'. So there is nothing ambigous about > > it. Yahoo! has said 'yes', google has said 'no'. Fullstop. > > That's incorrect it wasn't a flat out no. The answer was much more fuzzy. > which is the way to give a flat no and still retain popularity ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] mapping hardware, laser rangefinder
Lukasz Stelmach wrote: > Hello. > > I like mapping and I like gadgets (that's why I like mapping ;) I am > considering purchase of a laser range finder. I think a cheap one like these > > http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=77-018 > http://www.bosch.de/start/content/language2/html/734_6098.htm > > would suffice. Have you got any experience with such devices? Is there > any particular feature to care about? > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > These devices are for measuring internal dimensions of rooms. They need a flatish surface to bounce back off. Is this what your thinking of doing? Try a GPS (Garmin stc) unit to record external information. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] mapping hardware, laser rangefinder
Hello. I like mapping and I like gadgets (that's why I like mapping ;) I am considering purchase of a laser range finder. I think a cheap one like these http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=77-018 http://www.bosch.de/start/content/language2/html/734_6098.htm would suffice. Have you got any experience with such devices? Is there any particular feature to care about? -- Było mi bardzo miło. Czwarta pospolita klęska, [...] >Łukasz< Już nie katolicka lecz złodziejska. (c)PP -- Bezp�atne konto i limit do 100 tys. Otwierasz? >> http://link.interia.pl/f23bb <>___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Download Tiles
Hi, bernhard wrote: > Is there an easy way to download "all" Tiles? > I'm sure to have all mapnic tiles on my netbook I need some GByte - but > that's not a big Problem. No, and attempting to download all tiles is a sure way to get your IP number banned at the server. It is also likely to max out your hard drive, as "all" tiles (for the whole world at zoom level 17) would require something like 20 terabytes of storage. > Is there a zip-file with all tiles somewhere? To the best of my knowledge, zip files only support 256k files per zip archive. You would be downloading roughly 75.000 individual zip files of about 250 MB each. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Download Tiles
On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:28, bernhard wrote: > Hi all > > Is there an easy way to download "all" Tiles? No, but you can generate them yourself: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik Laptops are capable of rendering tiles live locally. It's not just some GigaBytes, rather tens of TerraBytes. > I'm sure to have all mapnic tiles on my netbook I need some GByte - > but > that's not a big Problem. > > Is there a zip-file with all tiles somewhere? > No and for very good reasons. Not all tiles have been rendered, you don't really need all of them. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tiles Shaun ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Download Tiles
Hi all Is there an easy way to download "all" Tiles? I'm sure to have all mapnic tiles on my netbook I need some GByte - but that's not a big Problem. Is there a zip-file with all tiles somewhere? Bernhard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
> If google or any other company comes after him then they would probably > have to delete all data that has also been derived from his work, or no? > If it comes to that then work of much more people is wasted :( I think that also the derived work has to be deleted because it is based on illegal content. So IMO such contributions should be immediately deleted. If the users uploads them again, he should be banned. Using Google is also really unfair towards those people who map with their GPS devices and invest so much time and energy into this project. It is really demotivating. lesi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:29:37 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: >> >>> Although it may/may not be "illegal", it is definitely a breach of >>> contract. >> >> Sorry for misleading title, but I still don't understand how this can be >> permitted. >> > > > It isn't permitted. Don't let the posts here arguing the details of > whether it should be permitted confuse anything. > OSM has one simple rule: if in doubt, don't. > > A lot of people think it's probably OK, but but Google aren't exactly > unambiguous on the issue and there are certainly enough people around > claiming rights that it leaves reasonable doubt unless the provider > tells you explicitly that it's OK. Or in brief: don't use Google for > OSM. +1 let's keep talking to Google (Ed/Leslie/whoever). but until we get something explicit and public and non-fuzzy (and preferably in writing) then it's still in doubt - please don't use Google for OSM. cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Projects on CBIT
Hi, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > It surely is tempting, with CeBIT being the largest trade fair of its > kind in Germany (or perhaps even Europe), but there are two problems: > > they say they're the biggest in the world... Always depends on "what" - I remember having dinner in "Boston's only revolving rooftop Italian restaurant". Makes you think... there's probably some revolving Italian non-rooftop restaurant somewhere in Boston. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Projects on CBIT
2009/10/29 Frederik Ramm > > It surely is tempting, with CeBIT being the largest trade fair of its > kind in Germany (or perhaps even Europe), but there are two problems: > they say they're the biggest in the world... cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
2009/10/30 Stefan de Konink : > The talk with Leslie was pretty clear; state a well founded business case > why OSM exchange would be good for Google and there is an opening. Google > seems to be about talking the truth externally but usually not more than > you already know. (Which is probably very good for a company that is under > the influence of the stock exchange) It depends what they see as the business case, they could be utilising an existing resource that is freely available, or they can spend money doing the same thing again so it can't be used by competition. Their business has largely been based on free and open source software, linux etc, you'd think they'd be a little bit more open to collaboration with existing community groups than trying to divide resources for their own financial short term gains. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
2009/10/29 Ian Dees > > http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 >> > >> > what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? >> > They say that they are using Google Earth images :( >> >> All of that said, current OSM policy is not to trace without >> permission. >> > Copyright has nothing to do with this*. It's against Google's Terms of > Service to trace from any of their data: satellite or roads, Google Earth or > Google Maps. > > Although it may/may not be "illegal", it is definitely a breach of > contract. That does add another dimension to this debate: OSM isn't breaking > a contract with Google, the user adding the data is. > as far as I read the posted thread of the forum, the user IS NOT uploading the traces: "I have been (for my own use, still trying to learn) taking saved images from Google Earth for an area that I'm editing in JOSM, loading the images in the MetaCarta Map Rectifier, marking 5 points, noting the WMS id, then loading them as background images in JOSM with the WMS Plugin." that's how I interpret "for my own use" cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote: > 2009/10/30 Stefan de Konink : > > At the GSoC there was a clear opening. Will pursue this when I'll feel > > better. > > It seems to me that Google prefers it a bit grey when it comes to > their suppliers, so I'm not sure you'll end up with a better answer > than Ed has already given. The talk with Leslie was pretty clear; state a well founded business case why OSM exchange would be good for Google and there is an opening. Google seems to be about talking the truth externally but usually not more than you already know. (Which is probably very good for a company that is under the influence of the stock exchange) Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
John Smith wrote: > 2009/10/29 Kenneth Gonsalves : >> look, a few days back someone (I think it was Richard Fairhurst) started a >> campaign asking google to allow us to trace their imagery. A lot of us signed >> up. The answer was a flat 'no'. So there is nothing ambigous about it. Yahoo! >> has said 'yes', google has said 'no'. Fullstop. > > That's incorrect it wasn't a flat out no. The answer was much more fuzzy. > > > Ed Guy was very very clear on 2 things, first and fore most that you > are not allowed to vectorise every single street in your city. Fuzzy is indeed the right description. What about 50% of the streets in my city? What about forests, lakes, streams, dams, powerplants, railroads and everything else that adds value to the map? The safest thing for now is to stay completely clear of GM. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
2009/10/30 Stefan de Konink : > At the GSoC there was a clear opening. Will pursue this when I'll feel > better. It seems to me that Google prefers it a bit grey when it comes to their suppliers, so I'm not sure you'll end up with a better answer than Ed has already given. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
At the GSoC there was a clear opening. Will pursue this when I'll feel better. Stefan Op 29 okt 2009 om 12:05 heeft John Smith het volgende geschreven:\ > 2009/10/29 Kenneth Gonsalves : >> look, a few days back someone (I think it was Richard Fairhurst) >> started a >> campaign asking google to allow us to trace their imagery. A lot of >> us signed >> up. The answer was a flat 'no'. So there is nothing ambigous about >> it. Yahoo! >> has said 'yes', google has said 'no'. Fullstop. > > That's incorrect it wasn't a flat out no. The answer was much more > fuzzy. > > > Ed Guy was very very clear on 2 things, first and fore most that you > are not allowed to vectorise every single street in your city. > > He was also clear on the 2nd thing, that you are allowed to do your > favourite hiking/walking trip and vectorise and mass distribute it, or > even mass distribute points of interest. > > There is a line between the 2 that Google will draw the line, but even > Ed wasn't certain exactly where that line is, in part because it's a > grey area no one (not google nor their supplier) wants to deal with > properly. > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 > > what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? > > They say that they are using Google Earth images :( I replied in the thread as I'm near there. We'll see if there is any follow-up. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
2009/10/29 Kenneth Gonsalves : > look, a few days back someone (I think it was Richard Fairhurst) started a > campaign asking google to allow us to trace their imagery. A lot of us signed > up. The answer was a flat 'no'. So there is nothing ambigous about it. Yahoo! > has said 'yes', google has said 'no'. Fullstop. That's incorrect it wasn't a flat out no. The answer was much more fuzzy. Ed Guy was very very clear on 2 things, first and fore most that you are not allowed to vectorise every single street in your city. He was also clear on the 2nd thing, that you are allowed to do your favourite hiking/walking trip and vectorise and mass distribute it, or even mass distribute points of interest. There is a line between the 2 that Google will draw the line, but even Ed wasn't certain exactly where that line is, in part because it's a grey area no one (not google nor their supplier) wants to deal with properly. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Thursday 29 Oct 2009 3:18:25 pm Dave Stubbs wrote: > > Sorry for misleading title, but I still don't understand how this can be > > permitted. > > It isn't permitted. Don't let the posts here arguing the details of > whether it should be permitted confuse anything. > OSM has one simple rule: if in doubt, don't. > > A lot of people think it's probably OK, but but Google aren't exactly > unambiguous on the issue and there are certainly enough people around > claiming rights that it leaves reasonable doubt unless the provider > tells you explicitly that it's OK. Or in brief: don't use Google for > OSM. > look, a few days back someone (I think it was Richard Fairhurst) started a campaign asking google to allow us to trace their imagery. A lot of us signed up. The answer was a flat 'no'. So there is nothing ambigous about it. Yahoo! has said 'yes', google has said 'no'. Fullstop. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:29:37 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: > >> Although it may/may not be "illegal", it is definitely a breach of >> contract. > > Sorry for misleading title, but I still don't understand how this can be > permitted. > It isn't permitted. Don't let the posts here arguing the details of whether it should be permitted confuse anything. OSM has one simple rule: if in doubt, don't. A lot of people think it's probably OK, but but Google aren't exactly unambiguous on the issue and there are certainly enough people around claiming rights that it leaves reasonable doubt unless the provider tells you explicitly that it's OK. Or in brief: don't use Google for OSM. > Is there anybody in OSM community that goes to OSM users that do this > sorts of things and warns not to do it? You can do it yourself if you come across it. If the user is not giving a good response (leave enough time for them to do so) then you can contact the OSMF Data Working Group: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group In this case there's no evidence of data being uploaded to OSM, but if you have an account to post there already it may be worth replying to the forum post to make it clear that they shouldn't. > > The problem is that somebody starts tracing via "illegal" means (google > satellite images and other sources) and other people come after him and > add bunch of data (new streets and POI-s, addition street tags) that all > their data would probably have to be deleted as they are derived from > source that is "tainted", right? > > If google or any other company comes after him then they would probably > have to delete all data that has also been derived from his work, or no? > If it comes to that then work of much more people is wasted :( > > Is there anything that OSM does officially regarding these kind of people > of they are just ignored until somebody starts asking questions? > The Data Working Group responds to notifications from the community. Where we find significant potential copyright infringement we can ban the user responsible and remove all their data -- we don't wait for the copyright holder to complain before doing this. This has happened on several occasions including a case in lithuania where a large percentage of data had to be removed -- with all the problems you point out. Dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
I often warn people on the OSM forum not to trace Google or use Google translation or whatever for use in OSM when I suspect that they do or want to. There are others who do that as well. Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:29:37 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: > >> Although it may/may not be "illegal", it is definitely a breach of >> contract. > > Sorry for misleading title, but I still don't understand how this can be > permitted. > > Is there anybody in OSM community that goes to OSM users that do this > sorts of things and warns not to do it? > > The problem is that somebody starts tracing via "illegal" means (google > satellite images and other sources) and other people come after him and > add bunch of data (new streets and POI-s, addition street tags) that all > their data would probably have to be deleted as they are derived from > source that is "tainted", right? > > If google or any other company comes after him then they would probably > have to delete all data that has also been derived from his work, or no? > If it comes to that then work of much more people is wasted :( > > Is there anything that OSM does officially regarding these kind of people > of they are just ignored until somebody starts asking questions? > > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
Valent Turkovic gmail.com> writes: > > http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 > > what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? > > They say that they are using Google Earth images :( The writer does not actually say he is uploading anything to OSM. He writes: "for my own use, still trying to learn". It is for sure OK to combine OSM data with Google Earth images locally in JOSM. Tracing features from Google imagery and uploadind the result to OSM database is another thing. It is pretty sure that copyright does not cover things you can see on a photograph and your interpretation. Google terms of service is unclear about if it is allowed or not http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_maps.html. But our own decision is to follow the simple rule: If you don't know for sure that it is allowed, don't do it. -Jukka Rahkonen- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On 29/10/2009, at 00.26, Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 > > what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? > > They say that they are using Google Earth images :( There's nothing in this thread saying that they upload the data to OSM. They only talk about tracing areal imagry with JOSM, but you can do that in a "standalone" fashion. Have you been able to verify whether the data finds its way to OSM? Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own "Year Of Edits" video)
Valent Turkovic wrote: > How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 > to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? You can try this, see if it's to your liking: http://labs.geofabrik.de/history/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
> Is there anything that OSM does officially regarding these kind of people > of they are just ignored until somebody starts asking questions? It is near impossible to check out every user and what sources it uses. If there is indication, that user uses source wrong or doesn't have permission to do so, it is healthy to inform his first, maybe he is just confused with all these concepts of copyright. If he doesn't answer, then admin could warn him somehow. If then doesn't seem to be answer, let's block him and investigate how to revert his commits. If user are silent about his sources, then even Google will have hard time to prove that he copied something from them. We can only react to visible violations like this. Did you tried to contact user about this? Cheers, Peter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own "Year Of Edits" video)
Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > A git repository, unless git has some magic properties that I am not > aware of, does not change the fact that you have to extract the data > from old planet files. > > Bye > Frederik You are right, the git repository is just another way to store already extracted data, a way that works for *us* (for example I am not sure if this will be feasible for Germany, because of the large extract size). Bye, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own "Year Of Edits" video)
Valent, Frederik, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:14:36 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > I don't understand where the git repository comes in? I mean we do have > > an archive of old planet files already, it's not that stuffing them into > > a git repository would somehow magically select the region of your > > interest from them? > > Can you explain how can OSM users then get a history for one city from > old planet files, that would be really helpful. If this is possible then > git repository isn't necessary, AFAIK, but I'm not the one who made the > scripts so maybe there has to be a git repository. > > How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 > to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? A git repository is certainly not mandatory, but the existing scripts I mentioned needs this. If you don't want to create/use git for this purpose it should be easy enough to modify the scripts to use bzipped/gzipped extracts of a country. And if you do this change please share the scripts :), I know that a lot of people would like to use this approach. Frederik, we used a git repository for our Romanian extract for 2 main reasons: 1. the extract is a XML file so it should be straightforward to use a versioning system to take care of the history. 2. space constraints: the Romania history from late 2007 to the present is around 5GB in .gz format, and the whole git repository has 480MB, and this includes the latest extract, unpacked (260MB), so it's a big improvement. Valent, how you can get older data is explained very well by Frederik and Grant in this thread on Talk: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-October/043705.html To be more specific, I used the following revisions of the scripts to get a pre 0.5 extract in the current format: - r4779 for osm-extract - r4778 for planetdiff - r4835 for conv05 Once you have the country format you can use osm2pgsql to insert data in the database, and you can filter the data to a specific box that will fit your city. Hope this clear some points and wil get you started, --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own "Year Of Edits" video)
Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Can you explain how can OSM users then get a history for one city from > old planet files, that would be really helpful. If this is possible then > git repository isn't necessary, AFAIK, but I'm not the one who made the > scripts so maybe there has to be a git repository. > > How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 > to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? You can download *full* planet files from planet.openstreetmap.org and then use available scripts (from SVN) to extract your home town from each. A git repository, unless git has some magic properties that I am not aware of, does not change the fact that you have to extract the data from old planet files. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:29:37 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: > Although it may/may not be "illegal", it is definitely a breach of > contract. Sorry for misleading title, but I still don't understand how this can be permitted. Is there anybody in OSM community that goes to OSM users that do this sorts of things and warns not to do it? The problem is that somebody starts tracing via "illegal" means (google satellite images and other sources) and other people come after him and add bunch of data (new streets and POI-s, addition street tags) that all their data would probably have to be deleted as they are derived from source that is "tainted", right? If google or any other company comes after him then they would probably have to delete all data that has also been derived from his work, or no? If it comes to that then work of much more people is wasted :( Is there anything that OSM does officially regarding these kind of people of they are just ignored until somebody starts asking questions? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own "Year Of Edits" video)
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:14:36 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I don't understand where the git repository comes in? I mean we do have > an archive of old planet files already, it's not that stuffing them into > a git repository would somehow magically select the region of your > interest from them? Can you explain how can OSM users then get a history for one city from old planet files, that would be really helpful. If this is possible then git repository isn't necessary, AFAIK, but I'm not the one who made the scripts so maybe there has to be a git repository. How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
