Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22
What landuse tag for the Mental Health Complex? http://osm.org/go/4zhHWh4c8- Philippine Landuse Planning Cookbook for LGUs generally define large government complexes as: institutional - An urban area within a city or municipality principally for institutional establishments. Institutional zones can be subdivided in to General and Special. http://www.cookbook.hlurb.gov.ph/4-15-zoning-ordinance On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I already made the edits for my slice (http://osm.org/go/4zhHfs7sa-) I'm not sure about the building's form on the map. Most of the POIs are there, I will be editing more in your area later. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/24/2010 7:16:07 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22 murlwe's tracks if anyone wants to use them. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/719701 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sana humabol: Slice 1: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/fwhmqxzx/walking-paper-fwhmqxzx.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/xq6z28n4/walking-paper-xq6z28n4.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/5t3l6hcf/walking-paper-5t3l6hcf.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/sn5b35mg/walking-paper-sn5b35mg.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m8ttl2d3/walking-paper-m8ttl2d3.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/ff7cdpq4/walking-paper-ff7cdpq4.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m5czs849/walking-paper-m5czs849.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/wpsbwxnf/walking-paper-wpsbwxnf.pdf No slice 3 since it's quite blank. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So final logistics needed: 1. Walking Papers printout of the slices - who can volunteer to do this? I can print this, just give me the pdf links. No time to navigate around walkingpapers site today. 2. The OSM banner - maning, is this still with you? Yep, I'll bring the banner including 2 extra gps (gt-31 and garmin etrex) 3. Choice of an afternoon meet-up venue - I'm thinking of a coffeehouse with power outlets and free Wi-Fi. Either Megamall or Galleria since these malls have free Wi-Fi. I would suggest is Starbucks Megastrip http://www.ka-fi.com/place/starbucks__megamall_megastrip/. Any other options? See you all on Saturday! On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The link to Facebook is obviously wrong. It should be: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=121402554549978 If you have a Facebook account, please RSVP if you can (even a decline would be useful). :-) The cake slices are also set: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party#Cake_slices On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here are two pages: 1. The Facebook event page (RSVP there if you have an account): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party 2. The OSM Wiki announcement page (still under construction): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: I've suggested other areas that are close enough but not too far from the Ortigas area 1. EDSA-Pioneer-Boni Avenue intersection: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57255lon=121.0472layers=0BTF There are new developments in the area, specifically in the Pioneer side (Robinsons Cybergate, Light Residences, Pioneer Woodlands) 2. Area between Boni-Pionner intersection and Kapitolyo: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57297lon=121.05339layers=0BTF The streets are complete, but it lacks POI's, buildings and landuse. Maybe one of us should hand out OSM fliers to passers-by [if they're interested] ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM-PH_Flyer_2010-03-19.pdf ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22 To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:22 AM Hi guys, I really don't think we could push through with the Corregidor Mapping Party. Planning was mostly nonexistent and I don't think many people are
Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22
The usual suspects and 1 newbie (murlwe not in the pictures). http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/mandaortigasmappingparty/ Just grab the pix and them in your FB account. The data speaks for itself: http://osm.org/go/4z...@eb On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: What landuse tag for the Mental Health Complex? http://osm.org/go/4zhHWh4c8- Philippine Landuse Planning Cookbook for LGUs generally define large government complexes as: institutional - An urban area within a city or municipality principally for institutional establishments. Institutional zones can be subdivided in to General and Special. http://www.cookbook.hlurb.gov.ph/4-15-zoning-ordinance On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I already made the edits for my slice (http://osm.org/go/4zhHfs7sa-) I'm not sure about the building's form on the map. Most of the POIs are there, I will be editing more in your area later. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/24/2010 7:16:07 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22 murlwe's tracks if anyone wants to use them. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/719701 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sana humabol: Slice 1: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/fwhmqxzx/walking-paper-fwhmqxzx.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/xq6z28n4/walking-paper-xq6z28n4.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/5t3l6hcf/walking-paper-5t3l6hcf.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/sn5b35mg/walking-paper-sn5b35mg.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m8ttl2d3/walking-paper-m8ttl2d3.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/ff7cdpq4/walking-paper-ff7cdpq4.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m5czs849/walking-paper-m5czs849.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/wpsbwxnf/walking-paper-wpsbwxnf.pdf No slice 3 since it's quite blank. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So final logistics needed: 1. Walking Papers printout of the slices - who can volunteer to do this? I can print this, just give me the pdf links. No time to navigate around walkingpapers site today. 2. The OSM banner - maning, is this still with you? Yep, I'll bring the banner including 2 extra gps (gt-31 and garmin etrex) 3. Choice of an afternoon meet-up venue - I'm thinking of a coffeehouse with power outlets and free Wi-Fi. Either Megamall or Galleria since these malls have free Wi-Fi. I would suggest is Starbucks Megastrip http://www.ka-fi.com/place/starbucks__megamall_megastrip/. Any other options? See you all on Saturday! On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The link to Facebook is obviously wrong. It should be: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=121402554549978 If you have a Facebook account, please RSVP if you can (even a decline would be useful). :-) The cake slices are also set: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party#Cake_slices On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here are two pages: 1. The Facebook event page (RSVP there if you have an account): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party 2. The OSM Wiki announcement page (still under construction): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: I've suggested other areas that are close enough but not too far from the Ortigas area 1. EDSA-Pioneer-Boni Avenue intersection: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57255lon=121.0472layers=0BTF There are new developments in the area, specifically in the Pioneer side (Robinsons Cybergate, Light Residences, Pioneer Woodlands) 2. Area between Boni-Pionner intersection and Kapitolyo: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57297lon=121.05339layers=0BTF The streets are complete, but it lacks POI's, buildings and landuse. Maybe one of us should hand out OSM fliers to passers-by [if they're interested] ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM-PH_Flyer_2010-03-19.pdf ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar
Re: [talk-ph] Cavite Road Network Mapping Party
Hi! I'm from Cavite and do have some contacts in some LGU's. We could coordinate with their Municipal Planning Offices and probably encourage local volunteers at the same time. =) Sorbi ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22
data is looking really good...congrats to all! On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: The usual suspects and 1 newbie (murlwe not in the pictures). http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/mandaortigasmappingparty/ Just grab the pix and them in your FB account. The data speaks for itself: http://osm.org/go/4z...@eb On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: What landuse tag for the Mental Health Complex? http://osm.org/go/4zhHWh4c8- Philippine Landuse Planning Cookbook for LGUs generally define large government complexes as: institutional - An urban area within a city or municipality principally for institutional establishments. Institutional zones can be subdivided in to General and Special. http://www.cookbook.hlurb.gov.ph/4-15-zoning-ordinance On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I already made the edits for my slice (http://osm.org/go/4zhHfs7sa-) I'm not sure about the building's form on the map. Most of the POIs are there, I will be editing more in your area later. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/24/2010 7:16:07 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22 murlwe's tracks if anyone wants to use them. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/719701 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sana humabol: Slice 1: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/fwhmqxzx/walking-paper-fwhmqxzx.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/xq6z28n4/walking-paper-xq6z28n4.pdf Slice 2: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/5t3l6hcf/walking-paper-5t3l6hcf.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/sn5b35mg/walking-paper-sn5b35mg.pdf Slice 4: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m8ttl2d3/walking-paper-m8ttl2d3.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/ff7cdpq4/walking-paper-ff7cdpq4.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m5czs849/walking-paper-m5czs849.pdf Slice 5: http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/wpsbwxnf/walking-paper-wpsbwxnf.pdf No slice 3 since it's quite blank. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So final logistics needed: 1. Walking Papers printout of the slices - who can volunteer to do this? I can print this, just give me the pdf links. No time to navigate around walkingpapers site today. 2. The OSM banner - maning, is this still with you? Yep, I'll bring the banner including 2 extra gps (gt-31 and garmin etrex) 3. Choice of an afternoon meet-up venue - I'm thinking of a coffeehouse with power outlets and free Wi-Fi. Either Megamall or Galleria since these malls have free Wi-Fi. I would suggest is Starbucks Megastrip http://www.ka-fi.com/place/starbucks__megamall_megastrip/. Any other options? See you all on Saturday! On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The link to Facebook is obviously wrong. It should be: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=121402554549978 If you have a Facebook account, please RSVP if you can (even a decline would be useful). :-) The cake slices are also set: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party#Cake_slices On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here are two pages: 1. The Facebook event page (RSVP there if you have an account): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party 2. The OSM Wiki announcement page (still under construction): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: I've suggested other areas that are close enough but not too far from the Ortigas area 1. EDSA-Pioneer-Boni Avenue intersection: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57255lon=121.0472layers=0BTF There are new developments in the area, specifically in the Pioneer side (Robinsons Cybergate, Light Residences, Pioneer Woodlands) 2. Area between Boni-Pionner intersection and Kapitolyo: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57297lon=121.05339layers=0BTF The streets are complete, but it lacks POI's, buildings and landuse. Maybe one of us should hand out OSM fliers to passers-by [if they're interested] (
[talk-ph] new featured image: eugene's sketchpad
@eugene and list, I took the liberty of using your sketchpad as our featured image for this week. :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines My flickr photos are under cc-nc-sa. Let me know if I need to change the license. :) http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
Another topic that came up during the mapping party is our saw-toothed coastlines. I once did manual editing of the coastlines, such an onerous task! Anyway, I do think we should improve our coastlines a bit more, but just thinking of the 7,107 island seems overwhelming. I propose we take this piece by piece and monitor progress of work. I created a subpage for coastline correction taken from the Data Import page. Please add more info. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections The first proposed priority is to focus coastline mapping to the 10 largest islands and then move on to the next. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections#Priorities Furthermore, I also believe ianhaylock's PGS coastline proposal should be revived and discussed again. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-June/001080.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] osmosis question
command: ~/osmosis/osmosis-0.30/bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=osmdata/hessen.osm --way-key-value keyValueList=highway.motorway --write-xml-0.6 file=bab.osm error: May 24, 2010 8:43:02 AM com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main SEVERE: Execution aborted. com.bretth.osmosis.core.OsmosisRuntimeException: Task 2-way-key-value does not support data provided by default pipe stored at level 1 in the default pipe stack. at com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.common.PipeTasks.retrieveTask(PipeTasks.java:154) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.common.TaskManager.getInputTask(TaskManager.java:164) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.v0_5.SinkSourceManager.connect(SinkSourceManager.java:51) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.common.Pipeline.connectTasks(Pipeline.java:74) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.common.Pipeline.prepare(Pipeline.java:116) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis.run(Osmosis.java:79) at com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis.main(Osmosis.java:30) WHAT's wrong? any idea appreciated! gary68 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis question
Hi, Gary68 wrote: WHAT's wrong? Someone using 0.30 when 0.35 is current, that's wrong ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Le 24/05/2010 06:52, Steve Bennett a écrit : On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: yes. there's little hope for useful defaults, the defaults vary too much from place to place. From country to country perhaps, and maybe state to state - but not within states. In Victoria (Australia), guessing maxspeed=50 for highway=residential will be right 95% of the time. It's certainly less effort to build and implement a table of defaults than to tag every single way, but the question is: whose effort? Still, I'm going to try and make sure I tag all roads of 60kph or higher at least. Though it's surprisingly hard to remember them when I just look at the map. To Australian mappers: is there a free government source of speed limits? Steve I suggested somewhere that we could enter the defintion of default values, maxsped and other stuff in the relation boundary where they would apply, like the timezone. Usualy those values should be entered in the country relation boundary. But for some values it could be a lower level : definition of holidays... We can, if necessary, put a def prefix or create a special relation type definition for including those definitions (easier to manage). E.g (for France). def:highway:motorway:maxspeed=130 def:highway:motorway:maxspeed:rain=110 def:highway:motorway:access:bicycle=no def:highway:motorway:access:foot=no def:highway:motorway:oneway=yes def:urban=50 def:rural=90 def:highway:residential:maxspeed=urban ... By this way, the values are : - easy to update - inside the osm data in .osm format - available just in time for the engines, routing systems... and easy to get by the API for map builders (like Garmin...). An engine that would have hardcoded values woud be considered as obsolete. - easy to use : the default value is for an area inside boundaries and the admin_level of the boundaries says the priority of the value to apply (if redefined for a smaller area) -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Richard Welty wrote: which is a perfectly good theory, and very fussy in practice. i am unfamiliar with any jurisdiction which enforces speed limits to fractions of km/h or mph. There are signs on the UK canals which inform the boater that the speed limit is 6.43kph. I kid you not. Meanwhile, 30mph roads can't be used for 50kph driving tests http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/new+bike+test+may+create+quotpermanent+learnersquot/3656587 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Le 24/05/2010 09:54, Vincent Pottier a écrit : I suggested somewhere that we could enter the defintion of default values, maxsped and other stuff in the relation boundary where they would apply, like the timezone. Usualy those values should be entered in the country relation boundary. But for some values it could be a lower level : definition of holidays... We can, if necessary, put a def prefix or create a special relation type definition for including those definitions (easier to manage). E.g (for France). ... I have started to implement it as a test : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/11980 (relation France) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/934933 (relation definition) the data are available at : http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/934933 -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Hi, Vincent Pottier wrote: I have started to implement it as a test : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/11980 (relation France) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/934933 (relation definition) I like the way in which you have created a circular reference by making 934933 a parent and child of 11980 at the same time. It is perfectly valid (twinned cities where each is the other's member would be a similar situation) but many tool/editor writers handle this poorly. Your relation will be a nice encouragement for them to fix their code. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Le 24/05/2010 11:20, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, Vincent Pottier wrote: I have started to implement it as a test : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/11980 (relation France) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/934933 (relation definition) I like the way in which you have created a circular reference by making 934933 a parent and child of 11980 at the same time. It is perfectly valid (twinned cities where each is the other's member would be a similar situation) but many tool/editor writers handle this poorly. Your relation will be a nice encouragement for them to fix their code. Bye Frederik I know it is a risk of infinite loop for bad tools but - the first version of the relation definition had no member, that is not very convienient - for tools keeping a list of definition, it is a way to remember to witch area they apply - maybe it is a way to build a standard def that several areas could subscribe (for example holidays period zones of French educational Academies that would apply to several departments) -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Hi, Vincent Pottier wrote: I know it is a risk of infinite loop for bad tools but - the first version of the relation definition had no member, that is not very convienient - for tools keeping a list of definition, it is a way to remember to witch area they apply - maybe it is a way to build a standard def that several areas could subscribe (for example holidays period zones of French educational Academies that would apply to several departments) My personal favourite would be to separate the concept of a country from its geographic (and some other) properties. Currently people will create a relation named France which has all the border lines, or border sub-relations, as members, and tags like name:de=Frankreich and all that. But I'm tempted to throw in another level: Have one relation that represents the country of France. Here you can enter all the names and link to the Wikipedia article for France and so on. Something that represents the city of Paris - whether that's a simple node or maybe a relation too - cold be a member of the France relation with the role capital. Then have another relation that models the borders of France, and make this a member of the France relation (role=borders or so). Your relation, which has lots of routing/navigation parameters for France, could also be a member of that same France relation (role=highway_code or something). And so on. Relations galore! I know some people across the channel will grumble but they'll get used to relations some time too. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis question
ok, i'll give it a try. still the error message is strange... On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 09:39 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Gary68 wrote: WHAT's wrong? Someone using 0.30 when 0.35 is current, that's wrong ;-) Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
On 5/24/10 12:52 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: yes. there's little hope for useful defaults, the defaults vary too much from place to place. From country to country perhaps, and maybe state to state - but not within states. quite, but in the US, we're talking about 50 states. someone has written in the wiki, quite optimistically: As far as I know, most other states vary primarily in motorway speeds. 70 and 75 mph are common. in actuality, i think it varies quite a lot, but so far values have only been entered on the OSM_tags_for_routing page for NY, Oregon, and Wisconsin, so it's hard to say definitively. richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
On 24 May 2010 11:33, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: My personal favourite would be to separate the concept of a country from its geographic (and some other) properties. Currently people will create a relation named France which has all the border lines, or border sub-relations, as members, and tags like name:de=Frankreich and all that. But I'm tempted to throw in another level: Have one relation that represents the country of France. Here you can enter all the names and link to the Wikipedia article for France and so on. Something that represents the city of Paris - whether that's a simple node or maybe a relation too - cold be a member of the France relation with the role capital. Then have another relation that models the borders of France, and make this a member of the France relation (role=borders or so). Your relation, which has lots of routing/navigation parameters for France, could also be a member of that same France relation (role=highway_code or something). And so on. Relations galore! I know some people across the channel will grumble but they'll get used to relations some time too. +1 I think it is the way it should be. Geographical information should be separated from data whenever possible. I think Poland and Spain relations are interesting with the way they create a hierarchy of subarea but mixing information at the same level which is plainly wrong according to me. Separating the two layers would have avoid some problems. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
On 23/05/10 18:33, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Richard Welty wrote: which is a perfectly good theory, and very fussy in practice. i am unfamiliar with any jurisdiction which enforces speed limits to fractions of km/h or mph. There are signs on the UK canals which inform the boater that the speed limit is 6.43kph. I kid you not. Friend of mine (in UK) lives near a private road with a 4 5/7 mph speed limit. Yes that's 4 and 5 sevenths mph, and no, that's not something sensible in kmph either. Alas I don't have a pic. Rory 0x5373FB61.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis question
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: command: ~/osmosis/osmosis-0.30/bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=osmdata/hessen.osm --way-key-value keyValueList=highway.motorway --write-xml-0.6 file=bab.osm error: May 24, 2010 8:43:02 AM com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main SEVERE: Execution aborted. com.bretth.osmosis.core.OsmosisRuntimeException: Task 2-way-key-value does not support data provided by default pipe stored at level 1 in the default pipe stack. Hi Gary, The error is indicating that the way key value task can't accept the input provided by the previous task. That could be because you're trying to feed a 0.6 task into a 0.5 task. However as Frederik has pointed out, I'd recommend upgrading to the latest Osmosis. 0.30 was created during the transition from 0.5 to 0.6 and there may have been some incorrectly mapped tasks at that time. Brett ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] closedstreetmap.org
2010/5/20 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: It could be used for a special OSM slippy map of closed streets, e.g.: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mennonot/2602625089/ ;-) Pieren You may be only kidding, but I just spent an hour dodging construction traffic here in Minneapolis. This would be great and incredibly useful for the general public. If we exposed a simple API for municipalities to specify which roads or road segments are under construction or closed, I bet they'd be happy to send in data. They get frustrated when people drive on their under construction roads, too! Righ, the issue itself is a very serious and relevant thing. Any other supporters? It might be started as a wiki page. Maybe it could be a bot which sets and un-sets tags road=construction (and maybe some more) to OSM database in more data source-friendly way. I just don't imagine road authorities to use plain potlach or JOSM to post today's works every morning to us. And a special rendering layout, very similar to the recent routing bugs layout from CloudMade. I'm reading talk-list once a month or so, please email me directly. Jaak ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
Nokia will be the exclusive, global provider of Yahoo!'s maps and navigation services http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=472765 Nokia, of course, owns data provider Navteq, which in the grand scheme of things is a rival to OSM. Yahoo! currently offers OSM the right to trace from its satellite imagery. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Data release template letter
Hello, Is there somewhere a template letter to send to an administration to ask for some data release explaining the OSM project and the process and consequences of releasing their data in an acceptable form for OSM? Thanks, N. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
But if Yahoo is to withdraw the right to trace their satelite images, than their usage of OSM map data can be a breach of the CC-BY-SA copyright on OSM. Yes, Yahoo maps uses OSM data to correct/extend their caverage, at least in certain areas: http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=mlat=-20.688081lon=-40.53262zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-20.6881lon=-40.5326zoom=13layers=B000FTF Some of the minor connecting roads around Guarapari is surveyd by me and appeared on the yahoo map a few weeks later. Some road names have been rendered only after I entered them in OSM, and some roads or parts of roads have changed category after I have surveyd them for OSM. A[] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
Hi, Aun Johnsen wrote: But if Yahoo is to withdraw the right to trace their satelite images, than their usage of OSM map data can be a breach of the CC-BY-SA copyright on OSM. If they did indeed use OSM to fixe their map then CC-BY-SA would extend to their map, not their images, and they would be in breach of the license even today. Nothing whatsoever to do with aerial imagery. Plus, if they switch to Nokia they'll throw their existing data out so even if it *had* beeen CC-BY-SA infected that would then go down the drain as well. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
Can you point out some specific road names that Yahoo have copied from OSM? Following those links to the zoomed out area I am only drawn to roads which are only in Yahoo. If Yahoo are copying OSM then I believe (without having attribution) they are in breach of OSM terms regardless of what they give us. Nobody has the ability to offer OSM without attribution. On 24 May 2010 21:04, Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: But if Yahoo is to withdraw the right to trace their satelite images, than their usage of OSM map data can be a breach of the CC-BY-SA copyright on OSM. Yes, Yahoo maps uses OSM data to correct/extend their caverage, at least in certain areas: http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=mlat=-20.688081lon=-40.53262zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-20.6881lon=-40.5326zoom=13layers=B000FTF Some of the minor connecting roads around Guarapari is surveyd by me and appeared on the yahoo map a few weeks later. Some road names have been rendered only after I entered them in OSM, and some roads or parts of roads have changed category after I have surveyd them for OSM. A[] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Detailed tagging scheme for railways - India
On 22/05/10 23:34, Liz wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2010, Roland Olbricht wrote: - railway=halt is at least in Europe already frequently used with a different meaning: station designates stations where trains can begin or terminate. halt means (usually smaller) stations where trains only stop but legally can't begin or end. To make things worse, most mappers map either all stations as station or they map all small stations (regardless of their legal status) as halt. You have a clear definition of the feature (not regularly served), thus I'd strongly encourage you to use a different value for it. Ahh, interesting Station in Au means it has a platform, and implies an office, a permanent employee and hopefully a toilet as well. Same in Ireland. There are many places tagged as station, where the train will go through, but it doesn't start or stop from. There is pretty much always a building, employees, etc. 0x5373FB61.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Richard Welty wrote: On 5/24/10 12:52 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: yes. there's little hope for useful defaults, the defaults vary too much from place to place. From country to country perhaps, and maybe state to state - but not within states. in actuality, i think it varies quite a lot, but so far values have only been entered on the OSM_tags_for_routing page for NY, Oregon, and Wisconsin, so it's hard to say definitively. In Washington, default maxspeed by way type varies from town to town. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
On 25 May 2010 06:17, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you point out some specific road names that Yahoo have copied from OSM? Wasn't it Flickr doing the copying? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] closedstreetmap.org
On 25 May 2010 00:38, Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: more) to OSM database in more data source-friendly way. I just don't imagine road authorities to use plain potlach or JOSM to post today's works every morning to us. And a special rendering layout, very similar to the recent routing bugs layout from CloudMade. Most construction on existing road ways happens round here either during the day or during the night, depending where the work is happening, but it usually isn't 24x7 so the road closures would only be in effect some of the time. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
Hi, Pointing out specific names on roads around guarapari that have been rendered after I have put them into OSM is about point out all the road names they render. Also seeing that minor connecting roads that i have surveyed are identical in Yahoo and OSM while some major roads I havn't surveyed are equally missing indicates that they have no other reliable source for their data. I do not know if they REALLY have copied from OSM or if it is coencidential, but until otherwise proven, I hold a finger on them using OSM data. I have thought that they could sort of utilise our data under CC-BY since they trade with us using their satellite images, but I am no law expert, so my thoughts there might be wrong. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Aun Johnsen wrote: But if Yahoo is to withdraw the right to trace their satelite images, than their usage of OSM map data can be a breach of the CC-BY-SA copyright on OSM. If they did indeed use OSM to fixe their map then CC-BY-SA would extend to their map, not their images, and they would be in breach of the license even today. Nothing whatsoever to do with aerial imagery. Plus, if they switch to Nokia they'll throw their existing data out so even if it *had* beeen CC-BY-SA infected that would then go down the drain as well. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 6:49 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 25 May 2010 06:17, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you point out some specific road names that Yahoo have copied from OSM? Wasn't it Flickr doing the copying? There have been several cases where Flickr shows OSM data in its geolocation map when Yahoo Maps doesn't have data. For example: http://www.flickr.com/map/?fLat=18.567503fLon=-72.332611zl=5 They give proper attribution... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo Maps to be provided by Nokia
I just got round to reading the blog/PR post about it, they said: Nokia will be the exclusive, global provider of Yahoo!’s maps and navigation services, integrating Ovi Maps across Yahoo! properties, branded as “powered by Ovi.” Doesn't sound like yahoo will be retaining any of their existing map data to me. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Random Hacks of Kindness
Elizabeth Sabet writes Google, Microsoft, NASA, The World Bank, and Yahoo! are unlikely partners, but they are bringing together the best and brightest in disaster relief management and the ever-growing hacker community in a progressive initiative called Random Hacks of Kindness. Its mission is to mobilize a world-wide community of technologists to solve real-world problems through technology. RHoK is gearing up for its first world-wide 'hackathon for humanity' on June 4-6, 2010. Following last year's inaugural event in Mountain View, California, which produced software solutions that were used on the ground during the devastating earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, the partners have decided to take the effort global. RHoK engages volunteer software engineers, independent hackers, and students from around the world in a marathon weekend of hacking events and coding competitions to develop software solutions for problems posed by subject-matter experts. This first global Hackathon will feature sponsored events in Washington DC, Sydney, Nairobi, Jakarta and Sao Paulo. Here's where to go for more details or to register for the DC event. http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/05/24/2349257/Random-Hacks-of-Kindness?from=rss ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline
The Coastline error checker doesn't appear to update very often. I have found the coastline checker still displays errors that I fixed a month ago. It also doesn't seem to always care about reversed coastline either. I use Mapsource with my garmin nuvi and it quite often has problems drawing the coastline from mgkmap creations. I thought it would be a good exercise to see if relations will help. I also plan to add some coastline national parks that are split at the coastline and plan to use the relations for checking my work. Markus. -Original Message- From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 24 May 2010 9:36 AM To: Markus Cc: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re: [talk-au] Austalian Coastline On 24 May 2010 09:48, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: I thought it was about time someone linked the Australian coastline to relations. Why do they need to be in a relation? I was amazed how many errors I needed to fix along the way including reversed coastline. You should now be seeing a purple line from South Australian boarder to the Northern Territory border. Did you check to see if the coast line checker saw these errors? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline_error_checker No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2892 - Release Date: 05/24/10 03:56:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2892 - Release Date: 05/24/10 15:56:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2893 - Release Date: 05/24/10 15:56:00 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline
On Tue, 25 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 24 May 2010 21:33, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: the coastline from mgkmap creations. I thought it would be a good exercise to see if relations will help. Error checking doesn't seem to me to be a good idea to use relations, JOSM has a validation checker that should be used for this kind of thing. I also plan to add some coastline national parks that are split at the coastline and plan to use the relations for checking my work. Add a relation if you have a valid reason to use one, like sharing a boundary between sections of land based national park and marine park, but using a relation for error checking seems wrong to me. Because I don't understand What are the disadvantages of using a relation? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline
On 25 May 2010 09:28, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Because I don't understand What are the disadvantages of using a relation? relations that big often have side effects when software can't handle it, even the OSM website itself times out when trying to show big relations. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-de] Josm-Present: Combo-Einträge in DE
Hi ! ich habe gerade einmal etwas in den JOSM-Presents gesucht nach einem Beispiel für Comboboxen und den Deutschen Begriffen. z.B den Straßentyp bei Kreisverkehren. Kann mir einer sagen wo ich das finde bzw. wie es aussehen müßte ??? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Josm-Present: Combo-Einträge in DE
Hallo Jan, Jan schrieb am: Montag, 24. Mai 2010 08:32 .. ich habe gerade einmal etwas in den JOSM-Presents gesucht nach einem Beispiel für Comboboxen und den Deutschen Begriffen. Die Keys kannst Du sprachabhängig in einer preset.xml Datei steuern, über combo key=fee text=cost de.text=Kosten aber die Werte gibts Du nur gemäß key-value Definitionen in den OSM Wiki-Seiten an, also die englischen Werte. Die gängisten englischen Werte wie yes,no,cobblestone usw. werden JOSM-intern in die lokale Sprache konvertiert, das kann dann auch ein Mischmasch von englischen und deutschend Werten ergeben. Ich habe noch nichts gefunden, wo ich das z.b. in einer anderen Datei erweitern könnte. Grüße Dietmar ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Josm-Present: Combo-Einträge in DE
Am 24.05.2010 09:39, schrieb Dietmar: Hallo Jan, Jan schrieb am: Montag, 24. Mai 2010 08:32 .. ich habe gerade einmal etwas in den JOSM-Presents gesucht nach einem Beispiel für Comboboxen und den Deutschen Begriffen. Die Keys kannst Du sprachabhängig in einer preset.xml Datei steuern, über combo key=fee text=cost de.text=Kosten hi! den allgemeinen aufbau kenne ich aber in einer combo steht doch combo key=operator text=Betreiber values=Wert1, Wert2, Wert3,Wert n default= delete_if_empty=true / Wert sind hierbei die englischen Values oder aber die Bezeichnungen z.b. bei Firmennamen. Aber wenn man z.b. beim Kreisverkehr schaut gibt es auch die Möglichkeit beim Straßentyp den deutschen Begriff zu wählen und es wird dann der engl. Value in OSM eingetragen. Das muss also auch irgendwie gehen - habe den betreffenden Source nur eben nicht gefunden. gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] AIO Makefile defekt
Hallo Liste, wer betreut denn derzeit das All-In-One Projekt für Garmin-Karten? Mir ist aufgefallen, dass das Makefile, welches im Hauptverzeichnis (http://dev.openstreetmap.de/aio/) liegt, defekt ist. Da scheint irgendein SVN-Merge nicht funktioniert zu haben. Kann das mal bitte jemand reparieren? Danke Gruß Andre ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wohnmobil-Stellplätze bei OSM
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 20. Mai 2010 14:28 schrieb Martin Mainzer mart...@gmx.de: das ist korrekt, ich habe der Einfachheit halber nicht alle tags verwendet, sondern nur diejenigen, die ich (subjektiv) für wichtig gehalten habe. Das sind: 'capacity', 'fee', 'power_supply' und 'tents'. Welche weiteren tags sind denn aus eurer Sicht noch wichtig und sollten auch noch aufgenommen werden? wie erwähnt wären m.E. Adressinformationen und Kontaktmöglichkeiten (tel, email, internetaddr.) sinnvoll, auch wenn gerade für letztere wohl kein Konsens besteht, dass sowas überhaupt eingetragen werden soll (wir sind ja kein Telefonbuch). Gruß Martin Hallo, ich habe nun die Karte noch um die Adressen der Stellplätze, die Telefonnummern und die Internetadressen ergänzt. E-Mail ist leider fast nie eingetragen. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Geschäfte / Läden / Büros
Hmmm... großteils falscher Alarm... ich hätte einfach noch http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Map_Features#Gesch.C3.A4fte dazu nehmen sollen, dann hätte sich viel erübrigt. Danke fürs mitlesen. Jetzt gehe ich erst mal korrigieren. Gruß Thomas Am 23.05.2010 22:40, schrieb ThomasS: Hallo zusammen, bei der Erfassung der Geschäfte / Ladenlokale in 2 Städten (1) 70.000 ... ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Inkonsistente Küstenlinien
Hallo Chris, Kannst Du nicht die processed_p-Kuestenlinien nehmen und daraus schnell Pseudo-OSM-Daten fuer den mkgap bauen? Wo gibt es die? Hier: http://tile.openstreetmap.org/processed_p.tar.bz2 am selben Ort: http://tile.openstreetmap.org/shoreline_300.tar.bz2 http://tile.openstreetmap.org/world_boundaries-spherical.tgz Gruss, Thomas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] luftbilder_umbrien_strassentypen
Am 23. Mai 2010 22:05 schrieb Karl Eichwalder k...@gnu.franken.de: a_beste a_be...@web.de writes: hat jemand Ideen, wie man nach dem Abzeichnen von Straßen nach o.g. Luftbildern den richtigen Straßentyp zuordnet? Gar nicht. Unbekannte straßen (und wege) sollte man immer nur als road eintragen und dann vor ort verifizieren. +1 Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Massendownloads vom PCN - portale geografico nazionale
Am 23. Mai 2010 21:51 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 22.05.2010 19:29, schrieb Robert Heel: Richtig, wenn man bei JOSM in hoher Zoomstufe einen WMS Layer aktiviert und dann rauszoomt, lädt josm die Bilder in hoher Auflösung weiter herunter ... Ja, die automatische Anpassung der Auflösung an die Zoomstufe funktioniert nur in Potlatch. M.E. ist das auf jeden Fall ein Feature, es wäre IMHO Quatsch, bei jedem Drehen am Mausrad die Auflösung zu ändern, bzw. diese vom Ausschnitt abhängig zu machen. In Potlatch mit den festen Zoomstufen ist das evtl. anders, aber in JOSM sehe ich das aktuelle Verhalten als optimal an (soweit man sich darüber im Klaren ist), und einen Automatismus kann ich mir höchstens optional vorstellen. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Hallo, der Beitrag [1] vom ZDF demonstriert anschaulich wie viele mitgeloggte Taxistrecken das Straßennetz Münchens abdecken. Wäre dies vielleicht auch eine Idee für OSM an GPS-Daten zu kommen? Wie sieht es mit den Datenschutzbestimmungen aus? Beste Grüße, Simon [1] http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1039766 (ab 15:45) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Hallo, aighes wrote: die Idee ist nicht neu. Das Problem ist, dass es nicht von oben (Chef) angeordnet werden kann. Stichwort Überwachung der Mitarbeiter. Man müsste also gezielt die Taxifahrer/Busfahrer/Müllmänner ansprechen und fragen, ob sie den Logger eine Woche spazieren fahren. Bedingung sollte dann sein, dass der Zeitstempel verfälscht wird. Wenn ich Guerilla-maessig einen Magnetsender an ein Taxi oder Muellauto dranmache und am Abend wieder entferne, um die Tracks zu sammeln, gegen welches Recht verstosse ich dann? Datenschutz kann es nicht sein, denn ich sammle ja keine personenbezogenen Daten - ich habe keinerlei Mittel, den Bezug zu einer Person herzustellen, denn ich weiss (im Gegensatz zu der Taxifirma) nicht, wer wann im Fahrzeug sass. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Am 24. Mai 2010 17:14 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Wenn ich Guerilla-maessig einen Magnetsender an ein Taxi oder Muellauto dranmache und am Abend wieder entferne, um die Tracks zu sammeln, gegen welches Recht verstosse ich dann? gegen irgendein Recht verstößt Du vermutlich schon, um das Taxi wiederzufinden musst Du z.B. durchaus irgendeinen Mechanismus haben, der Dir das Auffinden ermöglicht (vermutlich Handybasiert). Ich finde es nicht besonders verlockend, irgendwelche Tracks von Taxis und Müllautos zu bekommen (vor allem nicht in Deutschl.), da die meiste Arbeit ja nicht das Tracksammeln ist, sondern die dazu passenden Informationen zu dokumentieren und einzugeben. Reine Tracks sind verglichen mit guten Luftbildern sowieso um Größenordnungen weniger hilfreich. Wenn natürlich jedes Auto (oder jedes 20. z.B.) Spuren sammeln würde, wäre das schon wieder anders, da man dann z.B. automatisiert die Wichtigkeit der Straßen erkennen könnte, die Durchschnittsgeschw. zu unterschiedlichen Zeiten und Tagen, etc. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Die Daten sind in den Städten ja schon recht gut, aber bei uns auf dem Lande kann man sich über jede Datenquelle freuen ;-) Leider reichen die Landsat-Luftbilder ich aus, um Straßen zu erkenne. Und Yahoo gibt es bei uns nicht... Aber da wird es er der Problem sein, dass es keinen Verband wie in den großen Städten gibt. Gruß, Elmar ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Hofcafe , Bauernmarkt
hi! bei uns gibt es viele Hofcafes und Bauernmärkte. Wie würdet Ihr diese erfassen ?? Gruß Jan .-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hofcafe , Bauernmarkt
koennte gleich noch straußwirtschaften dranhängen. ist ja auch sowas in der art. walter - Der Fehler tritt nicht sporadisch sondern nur ab und zu auf. - aus Hotline-Eintrag -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Hofcafe-Bauernmarkt-tp5094382p5094406.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Elmar Burke schmalzlo...@googlemail.com writes: Die Daten sind in den Städten ja schon recht gut, aber bei uns auf dem Lande kann man sich über jede Datenquelle freuen ;-) Leider reichen die Landsat-Luftbilder ich aus, um Straßen zu erkenne. Und Yahoo gibt es bei uns nicht... Aber da wird es er der Problem sein, dass es keinen Verband wie in den großen Städten gibt. Gerade auf dem land werden dir taxi-spuren auch nicht großartig helfen. Schwing dich lieber aufs fahrrad und arbeite dich peu-a-peu systematisch vor. -- Karl Eichwalder ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Verweise von und nach OSM
Die Frage ist hier ja schon öfter aufgekommen, z.B. für Wikipedia: wie stellt man am besten den Bezug zu externen Datenquellen her? Bei Wikipedia machen wir das mit einem Extratag am Objekt. Über die jew. OSM-ID sollte man es nicht tun, weil die sich ggf. öfters mal ändert. Heisst das, dass wir für jede externe DB einen eigenen Tag erfinden wollen, und an manchen Objekten dann evtl. irgendwann mal hunderte solcher Tags hängen werden? Wäre es nicht besser, es gäbe einen History-Server, der zu jeder ID die Objekte liefern würde, die dafür in Frage kommen (oder besser noch: _das_ Objekt)? Oder ist der empfohlene Weg, über die Adresse zu gehen, bzw. über Koordinaten und Umkreissuche (z.B. name noch dazu nehmen, was aber auch schon wieder problematisch wäre, weil Tippfehler z.B. zu einem neuen Objekt führen würden). Ist das zusammengefasst also ein Problem, das noch gelöst werden will, oder haben wir da schon funktionierende Ansätze? Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
hi, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass nicht jeder von euch sich das video wirklich angesehen hat. da wird gesagt, dass der Deutsche Taxiverband dem ZDF die Daten eines Wochenendes zur Verfügung gestellt hat. daraus folgt für mich: a) die daten werden erfasst b) cheffe hat ok gegeben (sonst ging a nicht) c) nacht- und nebelaktionen (Taggen von Taxen ;) sind nicht notwendig man braucht nur noch den verband bitten, uns die daten auch zu geben. aber ich glaube nicht, dass die herrschaften mitspielen. walter - Der Fehler tritt nicht sporadisch sondern nur ab und zu auf. - aus Hotline-Eintrag -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Datenerfassung-mit-Taxis-tp5093711p5094551.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Datenerfassung mit Taxis
Am 24. Mai 2010 18:26 schrieb Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de: daraus folgt für mich: a) die daten werden erfasst die Daten: vielleicht auch nur jede Minute 1 Punkt, was nicht gerade ausreicht b) cheffe hat ok gegeben (sonst ging a nicht) ist unerheblich, es ging ja in den Anmerkungen um die Fahrer man braucht nur noch den verband bitten, uns die daten auch zu geben. das andere Problem ist auch schon angesprochen: überwiegend bedienen Taxis den Bereich, wo die Straßen schon alle da sind: Großstädte und größere Städte. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Verweise von und nach OSM
Am 24.05.2010 18:23, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Die Frage ist hier ja schon öfter aufgekommen, z.B. für Wikipedia: wie stellt man am besten den Bezug zu externen Datenquellen her? Bei Wikipedia machen wir das mit einem Extratag am Objekt. Über die jew. OSM-ID sollte man es nicht tun, weil die sich ggf. öfters mal ändert. Ein automatisierter Ansatz ist dafür wohl ungeeignet. In meinen Augen der beste Ansatz ist die Verwendung der OSM-ID und dann ein regelmässiger Suchlauf *ausgelöst und durchgeführt durch die externe Datenquelle* (bspw auf einem monatlichen OSM-Dump) der checkt, ob die OSM-ID noch vorhanden ist. Ist das nicht mehr der Fall braucht es (genau wie zur initialen Zuordnung) wieder einen manuellen Vorgang zur Verifikation bzw Neuvergabe der OSM-ID. Das ist aber relativ einfach, da der Standort ja meist gleich geblieben ist. Claudius ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Verweise von und nach OSM
M¿rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Oder ist der empfohlene Weg, über die Adresse zu gehen, bzw. über Koordinaten und Umkreissuche (z.B. name noch dazu nehmen, was aber auch schon wieder problematisch wäre, weil Tippfehler z.B. zu einem neuen Objekt führen würden). Koordinaten in Kombination mit Name und Umkreissuche wurde bereits in anderen Threads als mögliche Lösung erwähnt - ich weiß leider von noch keiner praktischen Umsetzung. Adressen wären nur beschränkt hilfreich, da nicht alle Objekte von Interesse eine Adresse haben, z.B. Gewässer und ähnliches. Gruß malenki ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hofcafe , Bauernmarkt
bei uns gibt es viele Hofcafes amenity=cafe und Bauernmärkte. Wenn es kein persistenter Markt sondern ein Wochenmarkt ist, der zB. Mittwochs und Samstag stattfindet, dann gar nicht. Da es dann ja mehr ein Ereignis als eine Geografische Lokalität ist. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger
Hi, da will ich Dir wohl mal recht geben. Es ist wirklich eine absolute Beleidigung allergrößten Ausmaßes gosmore als Frickelsoftware zu bezeichnen. Das sollte IMHO rechtliche Konzequenzen nachsichziehen. Schließlich hat das Wort Frickelsoftware auch Gefühle und seinen Stolz. Wenn ich Fickelsoftware wäre und man bezeichnet und vergleicht mich mit der gosmore-Kacke wäre ich auch auf 110. Dieser gosmore-Dreck verdient es nun wirklich nicht als Software bezeichnet zu werden. Das ist doch unter aller Sau. Schätze mal der Stümper der dass zusammengewichst hat, ist Harzer oder Frittenschmied - als Softwareentwickler hat der noch nie was gerissen. Das kann doch nicht mal als Demo oder HowTo dienen, es sei denn als ein How-NOT-To-Do. Und der größte Hammer ist, daß OSM diesen Schei... auch noch erwähnt. Aber na, ist halt Open Source und da gibt's im allgemeinen wenig Qualität. Und das musste mal gesagt werden. so long -Nixkoenner -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Routing-auf-Navi-fur-Anfanger-tp4625409p5095079.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hofcafe , Bauernmarkt
Am 24.05.2010 19:01, schrieb Chris66: bei uns gibt es viele Hofcafes amenity=cafe und Bauernmärkte. Wenn es kein persistenter Markt sondern ein Wochenmarkt ist, der zB. Mittwochs und Samstag stattfindet, dann gar nicht. Da es dann ja mehr ein Ereignis als eine Geografische Lokalität ist. Chris Hi ! kennst Du keinen Bauernmarkt - dort kriegst Du neben Kuchen auch alles andere selbstgemachtes. Nichts Wochenmarkt. Gruß Jan .-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hofcafe , Bauernmarkt
Am 24.05.2010 20:31, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: kennst Du keinen Bauernmarkt - dort kriegst Du neben Kuchen auch alles andere selbstgemachtes. Nichts Wochenmarkt. Achso, die nennt man bei uns Bauernlädchen. Hab ich hier mit shop=convenience getaggt ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Datenabruf vom API
Hallo, die aufwendigste Anfrage, die man an die API stellen kann, ist der sogenannte map-Aufruf, mit dem man alle Daten in einem bestimmten Bereich herunterlaedt. Dieser Aufruf belastet die Rechner und die Datenbank recht stark, weil er zu vielen einzelnen und aufwendigen Datenbank-Abfragen fuehrt: * gib mir alle Nodes in diesem Bereich. * nun gib mir alle Wege, die mindestens einen dieser Nodes benutzen * und alle Relationen, die mindestens einen dieser Nodes oder einen der vorhin gefundeneen Wege als Member haben * nun gib mir noch alle Nodes, die von den bisher gesammelten Wegen benutzt werden, aber ausserhalb des Bereichs liegen Nicht ohne Grund ist dieser Aufruf auf ein Gebiet von maximal 0,25°² beschraenkt (sowie auf maximal 50.000 Nodes). Jeder, der mehr Daten herunterladen will, ist gehalten, auf Daten-Extrakte auszuweichen (entweder fertige wie von download.geofabrik.de, oder mit Osmosis selbstgemachte, oder einen Mix aus beiden). Alternativ kann auch die XAPI benutzt werden. Leider kommt es regelmaessig vor, dass Benutzer die Groessenbeschraenkung absichtlich umgehen, indem sie ein Skript schreiben, dass nacheinander viele einzelne, nebeneinander liegende Bereiche abruft. Da gehoert ja auch nicht viel dazu - bitte tut es trotzdem nicht. Wenn ihr das macht, seid ihr keine coolen Hacker, sondern laestige Stoerer. Die Serverbetreiber muessen regelmaessig - so auch heute wieder - solche Massen-Downloader sperren, um den Betrieb fuer die anderen aufrecht zu erhalten. Die Mehrzahl dieser Massen-Downloader kommen aus Deutschland, daher in diesem Forum die Bitte: Nehmt Ruecksicht und haltet Euch an die Regeln. Die sind nicht gemacht, um Euch zu aergern, sondern damit der Laden fuer alle einigermassen laeuft. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Routing auf Navi für Anfänger
nixkoenner glaubte zu wissen: Und der größte Hammer ist, daß OSM diesen Schei... auch noch erwähnt. Aber na, ist halt Open Source und da gibt's im allgemeinen wenig Qualität. Und das musste mal gesagt werden. Das fällt dir 3 Monate später ein. Bist du nur zum rumstänkern gekommen oder sind von dir auch hilfreiche Beiträge zu erwarten? flo -- Tork ist afaik der Halsreif den die Kelten tragen und der ihren Status als freie Mitglieder der Gemeinschaft symbolisiert Ein Halsband, das Freiheit symbolisiert? Die spinnen, die Kelten ... [Daniel Brachmann und Martin Leidig in suse-talk] ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-in] LakeWalker
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:32 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote: dont forget the lakewalker plugin. one click tracing of water bodies from landsat tiles. What are the setting / tips / tricks to use LakeWalker, I could not use it for: http://osm.org/go/znasTmN It plots either nothing or very small area.. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] dormire a osmit2010
si, beh.. contavo di muovermi in moto... ora guardo.. grazie!:-P brunetto 2010/5/23 ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it: Mmmmh, non credo riuscirai a risparmiare molto. I Campeggi in zona sono: http://www.camping.it/italy/liguria/villadoria/prezzi.aspx http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.43176lon=8.81428zoom=17layers=0B00FFF per raggiungere OSMit: 10 minuti a piedi (o autobus nelle vicinanze), poi treno locale da Genova Pegli a Genova Brignole (si usa il biglietto del bus urbano http://www.amt.genova.it/ ) http://www.camping-genova-est.it/pages/italiano/tariffe/tariffe.htm http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.3809lon=9.07181zoom=17layers=0B00FFF per raggiungere OSMit: lunga scalinata, poi treno locale da Bogliasco a Genova Brignole http://www.caravanparklavesima.it/ita/camping-genova/campeggio-genova-prezzi. php http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.41434lon=8.70656zoom=17layers=0B00FFF per raggiungere OSMit: pullman extraubano sino a Genova Voltri (http://www.atp- spa.it/ biglietto 1€), poi treno locale da Genova Voltri a Genova Brignole (si usa il biglietto del bus urbano http://www.amt.genova.it/ ) Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] dormire a osmit2010
2010/5/23 ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it: Mmmmh, non credo riuscirai a risparmiare molto. I Campeggi in zona sono: già! urka che prezzi!:-P brunetto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Risultati della retrocessione di molte city a town
2010/5/21 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: è place=city se vale almeno una delle seguenti: -è capoluogo di regione -ha almeno 100.000 abitanti -è capoluogo di provincia e ha almeno 50.000 abitanti A prima vista sembra perfetto. Implementiamo la regola e vediamo l'effetto che fa. Per il momento documento sul wiki, appena ho tempo mi invento una query OSMXAPI per tirare giù le town da promuovere e poi aggiorno... Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Relazione per strada
Ciao, che voi sappiate esiste in Italia una raccolta della rete stradale nazionale/regionale/provinciale, come hanno fatto in altri paesi (vedi [1]). Sarebbe carino nonché utile (al momento mi pare non esistano elenchi di tutte le strade provinciali di una data provincia facilmente accessibili su internet) inserire tutte le strade di un tipo (statale/regionale/provinciale) come relation di type=route,route=road e network=Strade provinciali trentine o Strade regionali venete, Strade statali italiane, etc... ciao Tiziano [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Relation:route#Road_Routes ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Risultati della retrocessione di molte city a town
2010/5/24 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2010/5/21 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: è place=city se vale almeno una delle seguenti: -è capoluogo di regione -ha almeno 100.000 abitanti -è capoluogo di provincia e ha almeno 50.000 abitanti A prima vista sembra perfetto. Implementiamo la regola e vediamo l'effetto che fa. Vi rinfranco di aggiungere in ogni caso dei tag aggiuntivi per capoluogo (di regione / di provincia) ed il numero di abitanti (tag:population) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:population per i capoluoghi esiste una proposta qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/capital dove si discute di mettere capital=nation/region/province/yes insieme con admin_level=... oppure di mettere il place dentro ad una relazione del tipo boundary con un role=capital ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Risultati della retrocessione di molte city a town
2010/5/24 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2010/5/24 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2010/5/21 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: è place=city se vale almeno una delle seguenti: -è capoluogo di regione -ha almeno 100.000 abitanti -è capoluogo di provincia e ha almeno 50.000 abitanti A prima vista sembra perfetto. Implementiamo la regola e vediamo l'effetto che fa. un altro pensiero che mi viene è che con queste nuove regole siamo ancora di più mappando per i render, perché mettiamo i tag che rendono la mappa più coerente (oppure in uno stato che noi pensiamo che lo sia). Eventualmente sarebbe invece da cambiare il ruleset del render, che non è ancora ottimizato al massimo. Trovo adesso la spanna tra una città come Milano (1,3 mio abitanti) e una città come Viterbo (61.000 abitanti) un po' grossa. Ma anche con un nuovo tag per le città grandi (come Milano, quindi oltre 1 mio per esempio in Europa, per esempio place=metropolis) rimane per esempio Viterbo allo stesso livello di Torino, Palermo, Genova, Bologna, Firenze, ... Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Portale Cartografico Nazionale - autorizzazione
Il giorno dom, 09/05/2010 alle 12.55 +0200, Carlo Stemberger ha scritto: Il 09/05/2010 07:54, Pietro Battiston ha scritto: così a naso unirei i miei campi Server address e Main path nel nuovo Serverl url, e lascerei il resto uguale, ma immagino tu abbia già provato. Sì, avevo già provato, e mi dice comunque: Address and Path cannot be blank. Ho provato ad aggiungerci davanti anche http:// , ma in questo caso semplicemente sembra non succedere niente schiacciando il bottone Show Capabilities. Il primo che ci riesce faccia un fischio! Penso che puoi dormire tranquillo... Ho provicchiato la 0.16 (dal pacchetto debian experimental) e lì la stessa identica configurazione che nella 0.14 va e nella 0.15 no va di nuovo. Quindi mi sa che la 0.15 ha semplicemente un bug. (per la cronaca, la 0.16 ha anche la cosa simpatica che quando sta ancora scaricando le immagini per la risoluzione giusta, intanto se le ha ti mostra quelle ad altre risoluzioni, scalate; però mi sembra ancora un po' ballerina per un utilizzo serio) ciao Pietro ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] footpaths mellem blind vej og vedsidenaf-liggende-vej?
Den 20. maj 2010 12.50 skrev Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk: On 20/05/2010, at 10.49, Jesper F wrote: Hvis man har en blind villavej, hvor der fra enden går en lille gang/ cykel-sti, fx videre til en anden (evt. tværgående) vej. Bruger I så noexit=yes? og så en highway=footpath eller noget i den stil fra den blinde ende til den vedsidenafliggende vej? Det er ikke nødvendigt. Rutningsalgoritmerne kan godt finde ud af, at hvis du kører i bil, skal den ikke rute dig igennem en highway=footway eller highway=cycleway. Samme her! - keep right! http://keepright.ipax.at siger ikke noget, når man gøre det på den måde Morten beskriver. Keep Right er selvfølgeligt ikke den al-vidende. Men det hjælper. /Jens noexit er jo heller ikke korrekt hvis man er til fods. -- Morten ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
Buenas, creo que se ha producido algún error, no sé si con alguna edición o por otras causas. Buscando calles de Madrid, como Sor Ángela de la Cruz o Bravo Murillo, en el mapa de OpenStreetMap me aparecen resultados como los que incluyo a continuación: Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatim http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70310831069946minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70134735107422maxlat=40.4575691223145 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70154690742493minlat=40.4573631286621maxlon=-3.69828987121582maxlat=40.4606590270996 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69848942756653minlat=40.4604530334473maxlon=-3.698246717453maxlat=40.4607162475586 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.6984465129minlat=40.4605102539062maxlon=-3.69820928573608maxlat=40.4607810974121 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69175720214844minlat=40.4650077819824maxlon=-3.68963599205017maxlat=40.465690612793 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.7034637928009minlat=40.4504661560059maxlon=-3.69155740737915maxlat=40.4655227661133 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70347785949707minlat=40.4503746032715maxlon=-3.70326375961304maxlat=40.4506683349609 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70428109169006minlat=40.4471473693848maxlon=-3.70325016975403maxlat=40.4505767822266 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70312118530273minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70276212692261maxlat=40.45361328125 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69175720214844minlat=40.4653205871582maxlon=-3.68987202644348maxlat=40.4660682678223 Más resultadoshttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45799lon=-3.69751zoom=15layers=B000FTF# O como estos: Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatim http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69665932655334minlat=40.4588775634766maxlon=-3.69049501419067maxlat=40.4600868225098 Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69659399986267minlat=40.4590263366699maxlon=-3.69047355651855maxlat=40.4602165222168 Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.6972188949585minlat=40.4599227905273maxlon=-3.69660520553589maxlat=40.4603080749512 Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.71120858192444minlat=40.4601707458496maxlon=-3.69697427749634maxlat=40.4663429260254 Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.71128416061401minlat=40.4601020812988maxlon=-3.69701862335205maxlat=40.4662971496582 Carretera secundaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.6971743106842minlat=40.4600677490234maxlon=-3.6965537071228maxlat=40.460376739502 Carretera terciaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69840884208679minlat=40.4600143432617maxlon=-3.6963939666748maxlat=40.4607810974121 Carretera terciaria Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69848918914795minlat=40.4598846435547maxlon=-3.69645977020264maxlat=40.4606590270996 Yes Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.71120858192444minlat=40.4601707458496maxlon=-3.69697427749634maxlat=40.4663429260254 Yes Calle de Sor Angela de la Cruz, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.71128416061401minlat=40.4601020812988maxlon=-3.69701862335205maxlat=40.4662971496582 Si sigo los enlaces, me llevan a las calles correctas, pero es como si El Goloso englobase la ciudad de Madrid (¿o la provincia?) Supongo que esto es por alguna relación que se ha adueñado de más cosas de las que debiera, pero dejo a los expertos para que lo corroboren. Un saludo, --
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
En Salamanca pasa algo parecido solo que con lo que tenemos aqui cerca, la sierra de Gredos Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatim http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67191553115845minlat=40.9731483459473maxlon=-5.66695690155029maxlat=40.9772529602051 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67209815979004minlat=40.973201751709maxlon=-5.66711568832397maxlat=40.9776763916016 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65474796295166minlat=40.979305267334maxlon=-5.65236663818359maxlat=40.9795837402344 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65484094619751minlat=40.9794006347656maxlon=-5.65454769134521maxlat=40.979606628418 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66681289672852minlat=40.977352142334maxlon=-5.66588497161865maxlat=40.9781951904297 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66138553619385minlat=40.9791717529297maxlon=-5.65778303146362maxlat=40.9797019958496 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65475988388062minlat=40.9794807434082maxlon=-5.65234136581421maxlat=40.9797592163086 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66141796112061minlat=40.9793395996094maxlon=-5.65771198272705maxlat=40.9798698425293 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66296768188477minlat=40.9789276123047maxlon=-5.6614203453064maxlat=40.9793243408203 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66304206848145minlat=40.9791679382324maxlon=-5.66146612167358maxlat=40.9795112609863 El 24 de mayo de 2010 12:54, Jonas Andradas j.andra...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, creo que se ha producido algún error, no sé si con alguna edición o por otras causas. Buscando calles de Madrid, como Sor Ángela de la Cruz o Bravo Murillo, en el mapa de OpenStreetMap me aparecen resultados como los que incluyo a continuación: Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatimhttp://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70310831069946minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70134735107422maxlat=40.4575691223145 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70154690742493minlat=40.4573631286621maxlon=-3.69828987121582maxlat=40.4606590270996 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69848942756653minlat=40.4604530334473maxlon=-3.698246717453maxlat=40.4607162475586 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.6984465129minlat=40.4605102539062maxlon=-3.69820928573608maxlat=40.4607810974121 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69175720214844minlat=40.4650077819824maxlon=-3.68963599205017maxlat=40.465690612793 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.7034637928009minlat=40.4504661560059maxlon=-3.69155740737915maxlat=40.4655227661133 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70347785949707minlat=40.4503746032715maxlon=-3.70326375961304maxlat=40.4506683349609 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70428109169006minlat=40.4471473693848maxlon=-3.70325016975403maxlat=40.4505767822266 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70312118530273minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70276212692261maxlat=40.45361328125 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69175720214844minlat=40.4653205871582maxlon=-3.68987202644348maxlat=40.4660682678223 Más resultadoshttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45799lon=-3.69751zoom=15layers=B000FTF# O como estos: Resultados de
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
Esto no es una aportación constructiva, lo sé, pro... Juro que cuando leí el subject del correo, lo primero que se me vino a la cabeza fue un muñeco como el de Los Cazafantasmas, enorme, comiéndose a pedazos toda la ciudad de Madrid... [?] 2010/5/24 sanchi sanc...@gmail.com En Salamanca pasa algo parecido solo que con lo que tenemos aqui cerca, la sierra de Gredos Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatimhttp://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67191553115845minlat=40.9731483459473maxlon=-5.66695690155029maxlat=40.9772529602051 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67209815979004minlat=40.973201751709maxlon=-5.66711568832397maxlat=40.9776763916016 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65474796295166minlat=40.979305267334maxlon=-5.65236663818359maxlat=40.9795837402344 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65484094619751minlat=40.9794006347656maxlon=-5.65454769134521maxlat=40.979606628418 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66681289672852minlat=40.977352142334maxlon=-5.66588497161865maxlat=40.9781951904297 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66138553619385minlat=40.9791717529297maxlon=-5.65778303146362maxlat=40.9797019958496 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65475988388062minlat=40.9794807434082maxlon=-5.65234136581421maxlat=40.9797592163086 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66141796112061minlat=40.9793395996094maxlon=-5.65771198272705maxlat=40.9798698425293 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66296768188477minlat=40.9789276123047maxlon=-5.6614203453064maxlat=40.9793243408203 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66304206848145minlat=40.9791679382324maxlon=-5.66146612167358maxlat=40.9795112609863 El 24 de mayo de 2010 12:54, Jonas Andradas j.andra...@gmail.comescribió: Buenas, creo que se ha producido algún error, no sé si con alguna edición o por otras causas. Buscando calles de Madrid, como Sor Ángela de la Cruz o Bravo Murillo, en el mapa de OpenStreetMap me aparecen resultados como los que incluyo a continuación: Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatimhttp://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70310831069946minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70134735107422maxlat=40.4575691223145 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70154690742493minlat=40.4573631286621maxlon=-3.69828987121582maxlat=40.4606590270996 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69848942756653minlat=40.4604530334473maxlon=-3.698246717453maxlat=40.4607162475586 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.6984465129minlat=40.4605102539062maxlon=-3.69820928573608maxlat=40.4607810974121 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.69175720214844minlat=40.4650077819824maxlon=-3.68963599205017maxlat=40.465690612793 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.7034637928009minlat=40.4504661560059maxlon=-3.69155740737915maxlat=40.4655227661133 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70347785949707minlat=40.4503746032715maxlon=-3.70326375961304maxlat=40.4506683349609 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70428109169006minlat=40.4471473693848maxlon=-3.70325016975403maxlat=40.4505767822266 Carretera secundaria Calle de Bravo Murillo, Chamberí, Tetuán, Madrid, El Goloso, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-3.70312118530273minlat=40.4527244567871maxlon=-3.70276212692261maxlat=40.45361328125 Carretera secundaria Calle de
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
2010/5/24 sanchi sanc...@gmail.com En Salamanca pasa algo parecido solo que con lo que tenemos aqui cerca, la sierra de Gredos Resultados de OpenStreetMap Nominatimhttp://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67191553115845minlat=40.9731483459473maxlon=-5.66695690155029maxlat=40.9772529602051 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37007, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.67209815979004minlat=40.973201751709maxlon=-5.66711568832397maxlat=40.9776763916016 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65474796295166minlat=40.979305267334maxlon=-5.65236663818359maxlat=40.9795837402344 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65484094619751minlat=40.9794006347656maxlon=-5.65454769134521maxlat=40.979606628418 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66681289672852minlat=40.977352142334maxlon=-5.66588497161865maxlat=40.9781951904297 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66138553619385minlat=40.9791717529297maxlon=-5.65778303146362maxlat=40.9797019958496 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Poligono Industrial Los Villares, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.65475988388062minlat=40.9794807434082maxlon=-5.65234136581421maxlat=40.9797592163086 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66141796112061minlat=40.9793395996094maxlon=-5.65771198272705maxlat=40.9798698425293 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66296768188477minlat=40.9789276123047maxlon=-5.6614203453064maxlat=40.9793243408203 Carretera primaria Avenida Salamanca, Salamanca, 37006, Sierra de Gredos, Españahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-5.66304206848145minlat=40.9791679382324maxlon=-5.66146612167358maxlat=40.9795112609863 Lo que sucede es que El Goloso es un pequeño voy a llamarlo núcleo urbano situado junto al Cuartel de la Brigada Acorazada (Cuartel de El Goloso), con casas destinadas, creo, a familias de militares. En algunos sitios he encontrado referencias a que es un barrio del distrito de Fuencarral-El Pardo (p. ej. en una página eliminada de la Wikipedia [1] y en otra de la Madripedia [2]). [1] http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Goloso [2] http://madripedia.es/wiki/Barrio_de_El_Goloso -- Jonás Andradas Skype: jontux LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/andradas GPG Fingerprint: 678F 7BD0 83C3 28CE 9E8F 3F7F 4D87 9996 E0C6 9372 Keyservers: pgp.mit.edu | pgp.rediris.es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
2010/5/24 Jonay Santana jonay.sant...@gmail.com Esto no es una aportación constructiva, lo sé, pro... Juro que cuando leí el subject del correo, lo primero que se me vino a la cabeza fue un muñeco como el de Los Cazafantasmas, enorme, comiéndose a pedazos toda la ciudad de Madrid... [?] xD Constructiva no sé, pero alegrar el día, alegra :D -- Jonás Andradas Skype: jontux LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/andradas GPG Fingerprint: 678F 7BD0 83C3 28CE 9E8F 3F7F 4D87 9996 E0C6 9372 Keyservers: pgp.mit.edu | pgp.rediris.es 361.gif___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
Esto ocurre porque esos lugares están etiquetados como condados o alguna entidad de ese tipo, y Nominatim al hacer unas búsquedas busca el condado más cercano, y ese es el resultado que da. Hace tiempo que teníamos detectado este problema, pero no tenemos claro cómo arreglarlo. Por ejemplo, todos los municipios de Guipúzcoa aparecen en la provincia de Alava. A lo mejor es que el propio Nominatim es muy UK-céntrico y eso hace que no funcione muy bien con nuestros datos. O a lo mejor tenemos que etiquetar de otra forma. Gari 2010/5/24 Jonas Andradas j.andra...@gmail.com 2010/5/24 Jonay Santana jonay.sant...@gmail.com Esto no es una aportación constructiva, lo sé, pro... Juro que cuando leí el subject del correo, lo primero que se me vino a la cabeza fue un muñeco como el de Los Cazafantasmas, enorme, comiéndose a pedazos toda la ciudad de Madrid... [?] xD Constructiva no sé, pero alegrar el día, alegra :D -- Jonás Andradas Skype: jontux LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/andradas GPG Fingerprint: 678F 7BD0 83C3 28CE 9E8F 3F7F 4D87 9996 E0C6 9372 Keyservers: pgp.mit.edu | pgp.rediris.es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es 361.gif___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
El 24 de mayo de 2010 13:39, Gari Araolaza g...@eibar.org escribió: Esto ocurre porque esos lugares están etiquetados como condados o alguna entidad de ese tipo, y Nominatim al hacer unas búsquedas busca el condado más cercano, y ese es el resultado que da. Hace tiempo que teníamos detectado este problema, pero no tenemos claro cómo arreglarlo. Por ejemplo, todos los municipios de Guipúzcoa aparecen en la provincia de Alava. A lo mejor es que el propio Nominatim es muy UK-céntrico y eso hace que no funcione muy bien con nuestros datos. O a lo mejor tenemos que etiquetar de otra forma. En mi ciudad (Orihuela) pasa algo parecido, aparte de las pedanías rurales tiene 2 o 3 barrios en las afueras que están etiquetados, y a la hora de buscar cualquier calle del centro le asigna el barrio que le pille más cerca, aunque sea de las afueras. Cada vez que veo esto tengo la tentación de inventarme un barrio que se llame Centro. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
El 24/05/2010, a las 17:15, Benja escribió: El 24 de mayo de 2010 13:39, Gari Araolaza g...@eibar.org escribió: Esto ocurre porque esos lugares están etiquetados como condados o alguna entidad de ese tipo, y Nominatim al hacer unas búsquedas busca el condado más cercano, y ese es el resultado que da. ese es probablemente el problema hace poco cambié todos los places= de nodo de la comunidad de madrid y había unos cuantos que tenían place=region siendo simplemente un monte o una finca (coto de la suertes era uno) precisamente los mismos que engullían a otros en los resultados de búsqueda del nominatim. seguramente os esta pasando algo parecido busque y cambié ese place dándole un nivel inferior region es casi comunidad autónoma. aunque por ahora sigue dando los mismos resultados quizás es solo que habrá que esperar a que se actualice? (hice el cambio la semana pasada) Hace tiempo que teníamos detectado este problema, pero no tenemos claro cómo arreglarlo. Por ejemplo, todos los municipios de Guipúzcoa aparecen en la provincia de Alava. A lo mejor es que el propio Nominatim es muy UK-céntrico y eso hace que no funcione muy bien con nuestros datos. O a lo mejor tenemos que etiquetar de otra forma. En mi ciudad (Orihuela) pasa algo parecido, aparte de las pedanías rurales tiene 2 o 3 barrios en las afueras que están etiquetados, y a la hora de buscar cualquier calle del centro le asigna el barrio que le pille más cerca, aunque sea de las afueras. Cada vez que veo esto tengo la tentación de inventarme un barrio que se llame Centro. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] Más absorciones
Al ver lo que ha pasado con El Goloso y Madrid, me ha dado por realizar algunas búsquedas en Nominatim. He detectado lo que creo es un error, pero no del tipo de El Goloso. En este enlace [1] podréis ver cómo hay creada una region que abarca una extensión bastante grande en la provincia de Granada y Málaga. Se identifica como Sierra de Lújar pero excede con creces los límites de esta montaña granadina. De esta forma, cualquier municipio, localidad,... que quede dentro de esos límites se considera que está en Sierra de Lújar. El caso es que he trabajado algo (no mucho, pero algo) por esa zona (con el Potlatch) y no he detectado esa región. ¿Me podría decir alguien cómo hacerlo? Mi intención es modificar sus límites de forma que abarque el perímetro real de la sierra. En cualquier caso, ¿es correcto denominar como region una sierra? Un saludo a todos los osmeros. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54935 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
Perdón por la insistencia. Algo parecido pasa en [1], [2], [3] y, además, todo el problema de El Goloso parece tener su origen en algo parecido. ¿Es esto correcto? ¿De dónde proceden estas regiones? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 [2] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=7684423 [3] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54934 bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Al ver lo que ha pasado con El Goloso y Madrid, me ha dado por realizar algunas búsquedas en Nominatim. He detectado lo que creo es un error, pero no del tipo de El Goloso. En este enlace [1] podréis ver cómo hay creada una region que abarca una extensión bastante grande en la provincia de Granada y Málaga. Se identifica como Sierra de Lújar pero excede con creces los límites de esta montaña granadina. De esta forma, cualquier municipio, localidad,... que quede dentro de esos límites se considera que está en Sierra de Lújar. El caso es que he trabajado algo (no mucho, pero algo) por esa zona (con el Potlatch) y no he detectado esa región. ¿Me podría decir alguien cómo hacerlo? Mi intención es modificar sus límites de forma que abarque el perímetro real de la sierra. En cualquier caso, ¿es correcto denominar como region una sierra? Un saludo a todos los osmeros. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54935 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
Hay (o había) nodos con place=region para todos estos casos. Tendrían que ser place=localiity o algo así... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/300306448 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/26864617 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/367017853 David Marín Carreño El 24 de mayo de 2010 18:04, bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Perdón por la insistencia. Algo parecido pasa en [1], [2], [3] y, además, todo el problema de El Goloso parece tener su origen en algo parecido. ¿Es esto correcto? ¿De dónde proceden estas regiones? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 [2] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=7684423 [3] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54934 bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Al ver lo que ha pasado con El Goloso y Madrid, me ha dado por realizar algunas búsquedas en Nominatim. He detectado lo que creo es un error, pero no del tipo de El Goloso. En este enlace [1] podréis ver cómo hay creada una region que abarca una extensión bastante grande en la provincia de Granada y Málaga. Se identifica como Sierra de Lújar pero excede con creces los límites de esta montaña granadina. De esta forma, cualquier municipio, localidad,... que quede dentro de esos límites se considera que está en Sierra de Lújar. El caso es que he trabajado algo (no mucho, pero algo) por esa zona (con el Potlatch) y no he detectado esa región. ¿Me podría decir alguien cómo hacerlo? Mi intención es modificar sus límites de forma que abarque el perímetro real de la sierra. En cualquier caso, ¿es correcto denominar como region una sierra? Un saludo a todos los osmeros. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54935 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
Efectivamente, pero, ¿por qué aparece en nominatim [1] que abarca esa extensión? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com escribió: Hay (o había) nodos con place=region para todos estos casos. Tendrían que ser place=localiity o algo así... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/300306448 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/26864617 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/367017853 David Marín Carreño El 24 de mayo de 2010 18:04, bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Perdón por la insistencia. Algo parecido pasa en [1], [2], [3] y, además, todo el problema de El Goloso parece tener su origen en algo parecido. ¿Es esto correcto? ¿De dónde proceden estas regiones? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 [2] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=7684423 [3] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54934 bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Al ver lo que ha pasado con El Goloso y Madrid, me ha dado por realizar algunas búsquedas en Nominatim. He detectado lo que creo es un error, pero no del tipo de El Goloso. En este enlace [1] podréis ver cómo hay creada una region que abarca una extensión bastante grande en la provincia de Granada y Málaga. Se identifica como Sierra de Lújar pero excede con creces los límites de esta montaña granadina. De esta forma, cualquier municipio, localidad,... que quede dentro de esos límites se considera que está en Sierra de Lújar. El caso es que he trabajado algo (no mucho, pero algo) por esa zona (con el Potlatch) y no he detectado esa región. ¿Me podría decir alguien cómo hacerlo? Mi intención es modificar sus límites de forma que abarque el perímetro real de la sierra. En cualquier caso, ¿es correcto denominar como region una sierra? Un saludo a todos los osmeros. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54935 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
Un place=region es una extensión del terreno del tamaño de una región, con nivel administrativo situado entre state y county. Parece como si, al encontrarse un nodo de este tipo, lo extendiera hasta encontrarse con un nivel administrativo superior, o hasta que se encuentra con el límite de otro place=region... Vamos, que hace una extrapolación del punto región. Desde luego, hay que eliminar todos los puntos region, ya que al menos en España no tienen sentido... David Marín Carreño El 24 de mayo de 2010 22:14, bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Efectivamente, pero, ¿por qué aparece en nominatim [1] que abarca esa extensión? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com escribió: Hay (o había) nodos con place=region para todos estos casos. Tendrían que ser place=localiity o algo así... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/300306448 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/26864617 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/367017853 David Marín Carreño El 24 de mayo de 2010 18:04, bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Perdón por la insistencia. Algo parecido pasa en [1], [2], [3] y, además, todo el problema de El Goloso parece tener su origen en algo parecido. ¿Es esto correcto? ¿De dónde proceden estas regiones? [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=1713162 [2] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=7684423 [3] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54934 bv2mu...@uco.es escribió: Al ver lo que ha pasado con El Goloso y Madrid, me ha dado por realizar algunas búsquedas en Nominatim. He detectado lo que creo es un error, pero no del tipo de El Goloso. En este enlace [1] podréis ver cómo hay creada una region que abarca una extensión bastante grande en la provincia de Granada y Málaga. Se identifica como Sierra de Lújar pero excede con creces los límites de esta montaña granadina. De esta forma, cualquier municipio, localidad,... que quede dentro de esos límites se considera que está en Sierra de Lújar. El caso es que he trabajado algo (no mucho, pero algo) por esa zona (con el Potlatch) y no he detectado esa región. ¿Me podría decir alguien cómo hacerlo? Mi intención es modificar sus límites de forma que abarque el perímetro real de la sierra. En cualquier caso, ¿es correcto denominar como region una sierra? Un saludo a todos los osmeros. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=54935 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
En el ejemplo que expongo [1], no hay región alguna, sólo un punto con el nombre de un barrio (al noroeste). En este ejemplo parece que se confirma lo comentado de que se extiende hasta que encuentra otra región de igual o mayor importancia. [1] http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=635548 El 24 de mayo de 2010 22:43, David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.comescribió: Un place=region es una extensión del terreno del tamaño de una región, con nivel administrativo situado entre state y county. Parece como si, al encontrarse un nodo de este tipo, lo extendiera hasta encontrarse con un nivel administrativo superior, o hasta que se encuentra con el límite de otro place=region... Vamos, que hace una extrapolación del punto región. Desde luego, hay que eliminar todos los puntos region, ya que al menos en España no tienen sentido... ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Madrid, absorbida por El Goloso
El 24/05/10 17:51, sergio sevillano escribió: busque y cambié ese place dándole un nivel inferior region es casi comunidad autónoma. aunque por ahora sigue dando los mismos resultados quizás es solo que habrá que esperar a que se actualice? (hice el cambio la semana pasada) Al parecer Nominatim no se está actualizando debido a una corrupción de la BD (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim) aunque puede hacerlo en cualquier momento. stay tuned! PG ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
Me gustaría que más personas se pronunciasen al respecto. Si hay que borrar estos nodos me gustaría contar con respaldo. David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com escribió: Un place=region es una extensión del terreno del tamaño de una región, con nivel administrativo situado entre state y county. Parece como si, al encontrarse un nodo de este tipo, lo extendiera hasta encontrarse con un nivel administrativo superior, o hasta que se encuentra con el límite de otro place=region... Vamos, que hace una extrapolación del punto región. Desde luego, hay que eliminar todos los puntos region, ya que al menos en España no tienen sentido... David Marín Carreño ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Más absorciones
El 24/05/2010, a las 22:43, David Marín Carreño escribió: Un place=region es una extensión del terreno del tamaño de una región, con nivel administrativo situado entre state y county. Parece como si, al encontrarse un nodo de este tipo, lo extendiera hasta encontrarse con un nivel administrativo superior, o hasta que se encuentra con el límite de otro place=region... Vamos, que hace una extrapolación del punto región. Desde luego, hay que eliminar todos los puntos region, ya que al menos en España no tienen sentido... en la wiki no está la lista en orden jerárquico de la clasificación de places, alguien la sabe? creo que se está confundiendo el uso de place=region, algunos deberían ser place=locality [1] lugar con nombre no asociado a habitantes. si el nominatim busca places y no is_in quizás la relación de un municipio debería llevar place=municipality ... creo que hay un poco de lío (quizás solo para mí) con la localización de sitios, tenemos tres tipos de tags para ello is_in, place y boundary. no sería lo mejor que mandasen los boundarys: todo lo contenido en el área definido por la relación país, está en ese país. así hasta el nivel municipal a este nivel podrían valer nodos place de población: hamlet, village, town, city pero su área de influencia nunca se sale del municipio que lo contiene, (incluso eliminar nodos y que solo valgan áreas, a su vez contenedoras) mas abajo boundaries menores como barrios finalmente sitios tipo place=locality solo para poner un nombre en el mapa. el is_in se reduciría drasticamente o no sería necesario, todos los objetos estarían automáticamente ubicados. s [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dlocality ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-ar] Keep right: Calidad del mapa
Hola gente! Ultimamente estuve trabajando mucho con el keep right. Para quien no lo conozca: Es una página que muestra donde hay errores en los datos de OSM. Por ejemplo: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XCzoom=9lat=-34.56779lon=-58.36367layers=B00Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch7 0=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=0ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1ch231=1ch232=1ch270=1ch281=1ch282=1ch283=1ch284=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1ch=0%2C30%2C40%2C50%2C60%2C70%2C90%2C100%2C110%2C120%2C130%2C150%2C160%2C170%2C180%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198%2C201%2C202%2C203%2C204%2C205%2C206%2C207%2C208%2C210%2C220%2C231%2C232%2C270%2C281%2C282%2C283%2C284%2C291%2C292%2C293%2C311%2C312%2C350 A la izquierda pueden eligir en cuál tipo de error fijarse. Se ve que en Argentina hay un sinfin de errores que de alguna manera u otra comprometen la calidad de OSM. Un error es muy común: Es cuando dos ways se cruzan sin tener un nodo ahí donde se crucen. En el mismo mapa no se nota el error, pero, por ejemplo, un sistema de navegación nunca nos podría hacer doblar allá! En algunos lados en cada esquina está este error: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XCzoom=14lat=-32.91988lon=-60.65784layers=B00Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=0ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch2 10=1ch220=1ch231=1ch232=1ch270=1ch281=1ch282=1ch283=1ch284=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1ch=0%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198 Ya en la hora de mapear, sería muy bueno evitar este error! Si quieren arreglarlo: Fíjense si no se trata de un puente o un túnel, ya que ahí no puede haber un nodo común! Una cosita más: Cuando hayan arreglado un error, en la ventanita marquen ignore temporarily (error corrected) y hagan click en save - para que el próximo usuario no se ocupe con algo que ya se arregló. Así que: si están en casa aburriéndose, sin nada que mapear: Denle una miradita al keep right - siempre hay algo para hacer! ;-) Un saludo a todos, Daniel ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
Re: [Talk-ee] Mapping party Paide 2010
Tere! Väga vahva kaardistuspidu oli :) Loodetavasti ei põlenud teised niiväga ära, kui mina -- kael ja käed annavad veel praegugi tunda. Aga -- http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.88667lon=25.54624zoom=17layers=B000FTF paistab kaks teed, mis on topelt. Kes sealkandis kaardistas, oskab ehk paremini neid teid seal parandada? Ja kuidas on GPS-idest radade kätte saamisega, või on veel vara seda küsida? :) Tervitustega Lahemaalt, -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] T-särgid ja muu promonänn
Hea point: aga otsi kes selliseid teeks ja palju maksaks?. Põhimõtteliselt on meil projektis sellise kraami tekitamine täiesti ette nähtud. CloudMade omadel olid ka CloudMade ja OpenStreetMap-i logodega magnetid autode jaoks olemas. Ma ise mõtlesin et võiks teha promomaterjalina mingi väikese (umbes A5 mõõdus, 8 lk) brožüüri peale, mis tutvustaks asja eesti keeles ja annaks esimesed juhised/netilingid ka kätte. Neid trükiks mõnisada tk ja saaks siis jagada ja ühtlasi ka visiitkaardina kasutada. Jaak 2010/5/24 Joosep-Georg Järvemaa joosep-georg.jarve...@eesti.ee: Tere! Tekkis mõte, et lisaks T-särkidele võiks teha ka autokleebiseid ning ka magnetiga tunnusmärke autodele, et oleks näha, mis toimub, kui keegi Su maja ees seisatab ja fassaadist pilti teeb :) Wikist leidsin kavandid autokleebistele -- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm_stickers.png Tähistus võiks olla lihtne, nagu näiteks -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15074867/in-set/265849/ Tegin ka kaks kavandihakatist -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15075633/in-set/265849/ Suurus võiks olla umbes 20x57 cm ehk siis A2 formaadile mahuks kaks embleemi. Juminda poolsaarelt, -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] T-särgid ja muu promonänn
Saan uurida, kus Juminda korrakaitse tegi. Sõidan praegu korraks Tallinnasse ja lasen ühe kavandi A3 formaadis välja, et näha, kuidas tundub. Saab kohe kasvõi autoaknale panna :) Kaks teksti mõtlesin veel juurde -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15075793/in-set/265849/ Taust on hall praegu sellepärast, et imiteerida magnetmaterjali värvust. 2010/5/24 Jaak Laineste j...@openstreetmap.ee: Hea point: aga otsi kes selliseid teeks ja palju maksaks?. Põhimõtteliselt on meil projektis sellise kraami tekitamine täiesti ette nähtud. CloudMade omadel olid ka CloudMade ja OpenStreetMap-i logodega magnetid autode jaoks olemas. Ma ise mõtlesin et võiks teha promomaterjalina mingi väikese (umbes A5 mõõdus, 8 lk) brožüüri peale, mis tutvustaks asja eesti keeles ja annaks esimesed juhised/netilingid ka kätte. Neid trükiks mõnisada tk ja saaks siis jagada ja ühtlasi ka visiitkaardina kasutada. Jaak 2010/5/24 Joosep-Georg Järvemaa joosep-georg.jarve...@eesti.ee: Tere! Tekkis mõte, et lisaks T-särkidele võiks teha ka autokleebiseid ning ka magnetiga tunnusmärke autodele, et oleks näha, mis toimub, kui keegi Su maja ees seisatab ja fassaadist pilti teeb :) Wikist leidsin kavandid autokleebistele -- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm_stickers.png Tähistus võiks olla lihtne, nagu näiteks -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15074867/in-set/265849/ Tegin ka kaks kavandihakatist -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15075633/in-set/265849/ Suurus võiks olla umbes 20x57 cm ehk siis A2 formaadile mahuks kaks embleemi. Juminda poolsaarelt, -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee -- Joosep-Georg Järvemaa ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [Talk-ee] T-särgid ja muu promonänn
Seltsi kui sellist siin ei pea ehk isegi rõhutama. Kes kodukale läheb, leiab selle kohta. Üleäänud tekstid on väga head: Igaüks võib kaarti teha ja täiendame eesti kaarti. Et kordust ei ole siis äkki sõnastada: 1. Täiendame eesti kaarti 2. www.maakaart.ee 3. Igaüks võib kaasa lüüa Jaak -Original Message- From: talk-ee-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ee- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Joosep-Georg Järvemaa Sent: 24. mai 2010. a. 12:39 To: OpenStreetMap Estonia Subject: Re: [Talk-ee] T-särgid ja muu promonänn Saan uurida, kus Juminda korrakaitse tegi. Sõidan praegu korraks Tallinnasse ja lasen ühe kavandi A3 formaadis välja, et näha, kuidas tundub. Saab kohe kasvõi autoaknale panna :) Kaks teksti mõtlesin veel juurde -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15075793/in-set/265849/ Taust on hall praegu sellepärast, et imiteerida magnetmaterjali värvust. 2010/5/24 Jaak Laineste j...@openstreetmap.ee: Hea point: aga otsi kes selliseid teeks ja palju maksaks?. Põhimõtteliselt on meil projektis sellise kraami tekitamine täiesti ette nähtud. CloudMade omadel olid ka CloudMade ja OpenStreetMap-i logodega magnetid autode jaoks olemas. Ma ise mõtlesin et võiks teha promomaterjalina mingi väikese (umbes A5 mõõdus, 8 lk) brožüüri peale, mis tutvustaks asja eesti keeles ja annaks esimesed juhised/netilingid ka kätte. Neid trükiks mõnisada tk ja saaks siis jagada ja ühtlasi ka visiitkaardina kasutada. Jaak 2010/5/24 Joosep-Georg Järvemaa joosep-georg.jarve...@eesti.ee: Tere! Tekkis mõte, et lisaks T-särkidele võiks teha ka autokleebiseid ning ka magnetiga tunnusmärke autodele, et oleks näha, mis toimub, kui keegi Su maja ees seisatab ja fassaadist pilti teeb :) Wikist leidsin kavandid autokleebistele -- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm_stickers.png Tähistus võiks olla lihtne, nagu näiteks -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15074867/in-set/265849/ Tegin ka kaks kavandihakatist -- http://nagi.ee/photos/Joosep-Georg/15075633/in-set/265849/ Suurus võiks olla umbes 20x57 cm ehk siis A2 formaadile mahuks kaks embleemi. Juminda poolsaarelt, -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee -- Joosep-Georg Järvemaa ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Chris Hani Baragwanath
There is also Kalafong http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.73157lon=28.20205zoom=16 (not on the map yet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalafong_Hospital 2010/5/24 Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com: 2010/5/23 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com: Which mega hospital should we do next? Tembisa ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.98305lon=28.23778zoom=17layers=B000FTF Steve Biki / Tshwane District (the old H.F. Verwoerd) ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.73157lon=28.20205zoom=16 I think there is an unmapped clinic here : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-26.037866lon=28.047002zoom=18layers=B000FTF - Grant On 5/21/10, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: And the history shows that the heroes are mbuege and FK270673 , both from Germany. Strange. I've complimented them by private message. 2010/5/21 David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com: Err, that wasn't me, I just plonked a spot onto the map! Who went and did this amazing job? On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Glen Wilson 1tinsh...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that's an incredible level of detail. Nice work! -- Glen On 2010/05/21 04:12 PM, John Grant wrote: Looks great David, Well done -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- echo 16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [Talk-ca] Why are streets named with name in Canada and not street=xyz?
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to work out why Nominatim finds some Canadian streets or roads and not others. Nominatim suffered a crash some time ago so it is running on an old database. The maintainer is aware of the problem and hopes to resolve it this month. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: MTB renderer
takze uz je to jen o tom, aby lidi tagovali :) Treba ja se snazim mapovat cyklotrasy (a pesi :) ) co nejvic to jde, nicmene u mtb asi nepomuzu - nejezdim na tom, nerozumim tomu - kudy jo, kudy ne, obtiznosti a tak. :| Na bike-foru je dost blaznu, nekde tam je i vlakno o OSM, mam za to, ze jsou schopni mapovat svoje oblibene trasy. Jen to chce asi nejakou vetsi reklamu, zatim je to bez odezvy. Nicmene za me - mapa libi! ~ honny ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: MTB renderer
Na bike-foru je dost blaznu, nekde tam je i vlakno o OSM, mam za to, ze jsou schopni mapovat svoje oblibene trasy. Jen to chce asi nejakou vetsi reklamu, zatim je to bez odezvy. *** to by mne docela zajimalo, neb zatim mam pocit ze na bike-forum.cz je konverzni pomer mezi tlachajicimi cloveky a cloveky ochotnymi neco delat velmi velky. hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: MTB renderer (+mapy Garmin)
Sice souhlasím, že tam většina lidí má radši konzum než tvorbu, ale třeba já jsem se na bike-foru dověděl, že nějaká OSM existuje (celkem by mě zajímalo, odkud se lidé o OSM dovídají a co je přiměje přidat se k mapování). Ještě odbočím k mapám pro Garmin. U komerční Topo CZ mi nesedí, že je republika rozstříhaná na jednotlivé mapové listy, které se pokládají vedle sebe a každý v sobě nese úplný mapový obsah. Raději bych viděl mapové listy jako vrstvy přes celou republiku, kde by každá vrstva obsahovala jenom určité informace a ty jsem si mohl zapnout/vypnout dle potřeby přímo v přístroji. U garmin.openstreetmap.cz jsou oddělené vrstevnice, přesto bych uvítal možnost zobrazit a skrýt další prvky, například POI mi občas ztrpčují život, když se chci jenom pronavigovat skrz město, podobně bych rád někdy zapnul a jindy vypnul zobrazení MTB tras, turistických značek a třeba linek MHD. Zabývá se tu někdo tvorbou takto organizované mapy? Původní zpráva Od: hanoj eha...@gmail.com Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: MTB renderer Datum: 24.5.2010 09:54:33 Na bike-foru je dost blaznu, nekde tam je i vlakno o OSM, mam za to, ze jsou schopni mapovat svoje oblibene trasy. Jen to chce asi nejakou vetsi reklamu, zatim je to bez odezvy. *** to by mne docela zajimalo, neb zatim mam pocit ze na bike-forum.cz je konverzni pomer mezi tlachajicimi cloveky a cloveky ochotnymi neco delat velmi velky. hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] tagovan?: vodn? plochy, landuse... a je?t? jednou zahrady
Ahoj! 4) A nakonec bych se rád vrátil k těm zahradám okolo rodinných domků, o kterých se teď diskutuje i v tagging mailing listu. Na leisure=garden se mi nelíbí to, že pod jedním tagem se skrývá zámecká/dendrologická/botanická zahrada, příp. vypiplaná soukromá zahrada, kterou si jezdí natáčet z Receptáře :) a zároveň posekaný trávník plus v lepším případě záhon mrkve, v horším bazén. Pokud se něco nezmění, tak mužem rovnou začít paušálně obtahovat každou vesnici polygonem leisure=garden, a přitom se většina té oblasti kvalitativně neliší od průměrné městské zeleně okolo paneláku (jo taky máme před vchodem udržovaný trávník, záhon růží a pár šeříků). Takovýhle tag je naprosto nicneříkající. Tagovat pomocí surface=* jak někdo v tagging listu navrhoval je holý nesmysl - opravdu se nebudu chodit každý rok ptát po vesnici jestli sousedi zasadili letos to samé jako loni, nebo nějaký záhon nepřidali/neubrali... Navíc je myslím takto konkrétní informace pro většinu uživatelů stejně nezajímavá. Jako celkem dobrý se mi jeví proposed návrh residential=garden, ale kdyby se vymyslelo něco jiného bez zavádění nového tagu, tak bych se taky nebránil. Osobně používám village_green na městské parky, případně na nějaké výraznější zeleně uvnitř města, například kolem řeky apod., pokud je upravována. Jestli je tu a tam nějaký keř, stromek nebo růže, tak to bych netagoval, protože se to jednak často mění a jednak pak bude mapa nepřehledná. Nějaká zeleň je všude a nemá cenu ji označovat. To platí 'Nejaka zelen je vsude' neni tak uplne pravda -- jsou ruzne skladky, velke betonove plochy a jeste nezmapovana uzemi. Pro uzivatele mapy je zajimave jestli je to pravdepodobne pruchozi neudrzovana zelen, nebo jestli vstupuje do nezmapovane oblasti kde muze byt cokoliv. Tusim ze na neudrzovanou plochu je scrub nebo scree -- porad se mi pletou. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
