Re: [Talk-hr] Fwd: Vaši podaci i Openstreetmap projekt
Pošto sam jako dobro upoznat sa željezničkom tematikom dobrovoljno se javljam za rad i dodatne informacije. Također sam aktivni član foruma zeljeznice.net pa možda i od tamo mogu izvući pojedine stvari (najčešće povijesne ili aktualne). ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Fwd: Vaši podaci i Openstreetmap projekt
Zeljeznice.net posjetim tu i tamo. Pfaffopisi su obavezna hrvatska internet lektira. Ja sam već upisao sve slobodne profile. Mogu se vidjeti ovdjehttp://www.itoworld.com/map/71?lon=17.80386lat=44.84969zoom=7fullscreen=true . Maksimalne brzine sam danas počeo ucrtavati. Zapravo mi se čini da nema tu nešto previše posla, glavno da osvježimo podatke svake godine kad izađe novi Izvještaj. Predlažem da ti (Fiki) upišeš dopuštena opterećenja. Problem je što ne znam koji bi tag koristio za to. Vidim da se koriste axle_load, maxweight i maxaxleload. U Izvješću ima jedna karta sa nekim čudnim oznakama: A (14,0 / 4,0) A (16,0 / 5,0) B2 (18,0 / 6,4) C2 (20,0 / 6,4) C3 (20,0 / 7,2) C4 (20,0 / 8,0) D4 (22,5 / 8,0) Bilo bi dobro da se istraži što je to. Tone po osovini? Počeo sam stavljati tag operator=HŽ Infrastruktura, mislim da je to najtočnije. Elektrifikacija je manje više dovršena. Točke gdje vlak stane ispred kolodvora označavam sa public_transport=stop_position + train=yes + name=*. Mislim da je to bolje od railway=station ili railway=halt. To dvoje stoje na kućici ili zgradi kolodvora pored. Eto, sve sam rekao, ako se netko ne slaže sa nečime neka se javi ili šuti zauvijek. Pozdrav, Janko Dana 6. studenoga 2013. 18:58 Fiki fik...@hotmail.com je napisao/la: Pošto sam jako dobro upoznat sa željezničkom tematikom dobrovoljno se javljam za rad i dodatne informacije. Također sam aktivni član foruma zeljeznice.net pa možda i od tamo mogu izvući pojedine stvari (najčešće povijesne ili aktualne). ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
This typhoon will definitely do some damage. Japan Meteorological Agency's bulletin [a] describes the typhoon's going to hit between Very Strong to Violent. Unfortunately, the typhoons path is vast as Eugene pointed out. From a mapping perspective... 1) There are some unfinished jobs in the tasking manager. I believe those will help the communities that are working on to create a disaster recovery or risk reduction plans. Candaba[b], Lubao[c], Guagua[d]. However, these areas are a couple hundred kilometres away from the typhoon centre. 2) If anybody sees imagery with good detail and roads are untraced in the Visayas, please let us know 3) Jean-Guilhem, if you're able to provide new imagery, that would be great. I believe you pointed out or provided new imagery when Typhoon Bopha/Pablo hit Mindanao. Aside from that, let me know where to map and ill be happy to help. [a] http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/1330.html [b] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/323 [c] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/329 [d] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/331 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem, Currently, the typhoon is still too far off. The typhoon still has not yet entered our country's meteorological area of responsibility so our weather bureau (PAGASA) is not yet issuing any weather bulletins. In addition, we still have no idea where the typhoon will make landfall—the possible area is more than 1000 kilometers wide. So I cannot say for certain which areas would need mapping help. However, the province of Bohol, which was hit by by a magnitude 7.2 earthquake last October 15 is still recovering. Wherever the typhoon will make landfall, I'm sure Bohol will be affected. So I think concentrating on Bohol currently is best. However, there has already been a HOT task to map the affected area (southwestern Bohol) that has available satellite imagery[1] so I'm not sure what else can be done remotely. Maybe other people have ideas? Regards, Eugene [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, Seeing alerts about typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan, apparently forecast to have reached category 4 when hitting the Philippines on Friday, with winds that could reach 240 km/h and very heavy rains: http://www.gdacs.org/report.aspx?eventid=41058episodeid=9eventtype=TC Is there anything related to mapping that could be done to help? Is anyone in contact with responders, who might have mapping needs? Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: Powerful Typhoon HAIYAN Update #004
Here you go Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedIn http://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt *See me on StackExchange http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c* === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === -- Forwarded message -- From: Typhoon2000.com (Michael V. Padua) t2kstormupda...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:35 AM Subject: Powerful Typhoon HAIYAN Update #004 To: typhoon2000ph_storml...@yahoogroups.com *for Wednesday, 06 November 2013 [8:35 AM PhT]* http://www.typhoon2000.ph/advisory.html# http://www.typhoon2000.ph/advisory.html# http://www.typhoon2000.ph/advisory.html# http://www.typhoon2000.ph/advisory.html# http://www.typhoon2000.ph/advisory.html# -- *WEATHER.COM.PH http://WEATHER.COM.PH TROPICAL CYCLONE UPDATES* *TYPHOON HAIYAN UPDATE NUMBER 004 * Issued at: 6:00 AM PhT (22:00 GMT) Wednesday 06 November 2013 Next Update: 12:00 NN PhT (04:00 GMT) Wednesday 06 November 2013 -- HAIYAN approaching Super Typhoon (STY) status as it rapidly gained strength due to the emergence of a pinhole-sized eye a few hours ago...now poses a serious threat to Eastern Visayas and Northeastern Mindanao. The initial potential landfall area of this typhoon remains along the Samar-Leyte Area on *Friday morning, November 08*. *This typhoon is similar in track and strength of Super Typhoon MIKE (RUPING) which passed across the Visayas in November of 1991 and devastated much of Metro Cebu. Residents living along the eastern seaboards of the Philippines from Northern Quezon...Bicol Region...down to Northeastern Mindanao should closely monitor the approach of this potentially destructive typhoon. Plans for emergency situations and/or disaster management planning must be implemented beginning today as the storm is only 3 days away from hitting land.* Meanwhile, *Tropical Depression 30W (WILMA)* has accelerated and is approaching the coast of Southern Vietnam. As of 5:00 am today, its center was estimated about *385 km ESE of Nha Trang, Vietnam (near 11.8N 112.7E). With maximum winds of 55 kph near the center and was moving westward at 31 kph in the general direction of Southern Vietnam.* Residents and visitors along Northeastern Mindanao, Visayas, Bicol Region and Eastern Luzon should closely monitor the development of Haiyan. Do not use this for life or death decisions. This update is intended for additional information purposes only. Kindly refer to your national weather agency for official warnings, advisories or bulletins. *CURRENT STORM ANALYSIS* As of 5:00 am today, the pin-hole eye of TY Haiyan was located over the western part of the Caroline Islands...about 335 km southeast of Colonia, Yap (FSM) or 1,690 km southeast of Borongan City, Samar, Philippines...currently moving quickly west-northwest with an accelerated forward speed of 35 km/hr towards Yap-Palau Area. Maximum Sustained Winds (1-min. avg) have rapidly increased to 205 km/hr near the center with higher gusts. *Typhoon Force Winds (118 km/hr or more) extend outward up to 45 kilometers from the center...and Tropical Storm Force Winds (63-117 km/hr) extend outward up to 165 kilometers from the center.* TY Haiyan remains a small-sizedhttp://www.typhoon2000.ph/tcsizes.htmtropical cyclone with a diameter of 555 kilometers across. *2-DAY FORECAST OUTLOOK** TY Haiyan is expected to move in a generally straight, west-northwest track throughout the forecast period. *On the forecast track, the core of TY Haiyan will passing in between the islands of Yap and Palau by Wednesday afternoon and evening...and will enter the Philippine Area of Responsibility (PAR) during the early morning hours of Thursday...and move across the South Philippine Sea. By early Friday morning, Haiyan will be at near landfall, approaching the shores of Southern Samar and Eastern Leyte.* TY Haiyan will continue to rapidly intensify within the next 24 to 48 hours as the system moves over the warmer sea surface temperatures of the Philippine Sea...and could become an extremely dangerous Category 5 STY on Thursday early morning just before it makes landfall. Advance Intensity Forecast (AIF) shows its 1-minute maximum sustained winds increasing to 260 km/hr between the evening of Wednesday and early Thursday morning. The following is the summary of the 2-day forecast outlook and an *extended 3-day forecast*
Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
Hi, I browsed looking for new Bing high resolution images using http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer-ve/ , and found some that do not already appear on http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ . (Maybe they were already mentioned on this list, I don't know) For example, in Northern Samar, Masbate, Panay Island, Surigao del Sur... (You can compare by setting the above coverage maps in two windows side by side). Along Northern Samar north coast, for example, it was thus possible to start mapping some roads (between Laoang and San Roque). More villages, town streets and rivers could also be added. There are certainly other areas in the same situation. Mandaon, for one example. Also, I checked Orbview-3 imagery again, but images that are not already online are (still) very cloudy. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 06/11/2013 10:42, Carlo Antonio Romero a écrit : This typhoon will definitely do some damage. Japan Meteorological Agency's bulletin [a] describes the typhoon's going to hit between Very Strong to Violent. Unfortunately, the typhoons path is vast as Eugene pointed out. From a mapping perspective... 1) There are some unfinished jobs in the tasking manager. I believe those will help the communities that are working on to create a disaster recovery or risk reduction plans. Candaba[b], Lubao[c], Guagua[d]. However, these areas are a couple hundred kilometres away from the typhoon centre. 2) If anybody sees imagery with good detail and roads are untraced in the Visayas, please let us know 3) Jean-Guilhem, if you're able to provide new imagery, that would be great. I believe you pointed out or provided new imagery when Typhoon Bopha/Pablo hit Mindanao. Aside from that, let me know where to map and ill be happy to help. [a] http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/1330.html [b] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/323 [c] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/329 [d] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/331 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com mailto:sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem, Currently, the typhoon is still too far off. The typhoon still has not yet entered our country's meteorological area of responsibility so our weather bureau (PAGASA) is not yet issuing any weather bulletins. In addition, we still have no idea where the typhoon will make landfall—the possible area is more than 1000 kilometers wide. So I cannot say for certain which areas would need mapping help. However, the province of Bohol, which was hit by by a magnitude 7.2 earthquake last October 15 is still recovering. Wherever the typhoon will make landfall, I'm sure Bohol will be affected. So I think concentrating on Bohol currently is best. However, there has already been a HOT task to map the affected area (southwestern Bohol) that has available satellite imagery[1] so I'm not sure what else can be done remotely. Maybe other people have ideas? Regards, Eugene [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org mailto:jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, Seeing alerts about typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan, apparently forecast to have reached category 4 when hitting the Philippines on Friday, with winds that could reach 240 km/h and very heavy rains: http://www.gdacs.org/report.aspx?eventid=41058episodeid=9eventtype=TC Is there anything related to mapping that could be done to help? Is anyone in contact with responders, who might have mapping needs? Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
Hi Jean-Guilhem, The map here is outdated: http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ The almost up-to-date map is here: http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/ Anyway, there's plenty of Bing satellite imagery that are not yet fully traced. Samar and Leyte are good candidates for this coming typhoon. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, I browsed looking for new Bing high resolution images using http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer-ve/ , and found some that do not already appear on http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ . (Maybe they were already mentioned on this list, I don't know) For example, in Northern Samar, Masbate, Panay Island, Surigao del Sur... (You can compare by setting the above coverage maps in two windows side by side). Along Northern Samar north coast, for example, it was thus possible to start mapping some roads (between Laoang and San Roque). More villages, town streets and rivers could also be added. There are certainly other areas in the same situation. Mandaon, for one example. Also, I checked Orbview-3 imagery again, but images that are not already online are (still) very cloudy. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 06/11/2013 10:42, Carlo Antonio Romero a écrit : This typhoon will definitely do some damage. Japan Meteorological Agency's bulletin [a] describes the typhoon's going to hit between Very Strong to Violent. Unfortunately, the typhoons path is vast as Eugene pointed out. From a mapping perspective... 1) There are some unfinished jobs in the tasking manager. I believe those will help the communities that are working on to create a disaster recovery or risk reduction plans. Candaba[b], Lubao[c], Guagua[d]. However, these areas are a couple hundred kilometres away from the typhoon centre. 2) If anybody sees imagery with good detail and roads are untraced in the Visayas, please let us know 3) Jean-Guilhem, if you're able to provide new imagery, that would be great. I believe you pointed out or provided new imagery when Typhoon Bopha/Pablo hit Mindanao. Aside from that, let me know where to map and ill be happy to help. [a] http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/1330.html [b] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/323 [c] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/329 [d] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/331 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem, Currently, the typhoon is still too far off. The typhoon still has not yet entered our country's meteorological area of responsibility so our weather bureau (PAGASA) is not yet issuing any weather bulletins. In addition, we still have no idea where the typhoon will make landfall—the possible area is more than 1000 kilometers wide. So I cannot say for certain which areas would need mapping help. However, the province of Bohol, which was hit by by a magnitude 7.2 earthquake last October 15 is still recovering. Wherever the typhoon will make landfall, I'm sure Bohol will be affected. So I think concentrating on Bohol currently is best. However, there has already been a HOT task to map the affected area (southwestern Bohol) that has available satellite imagery[1] so I'm not sure what else can be done remotely. Maybe other people have ideas? Regards, Eugene [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, Seeing alerts about typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan, apparently forecast to have reached category 4 when hitting the Philippines on Friday, with winds that could reach 240 km/h and very heavy rains: http://www.gdacs.org/report.aspx?eventid=41058episodeid=9eventtype=TC Is there anything related to mapping that could be done to help? Is anyone in contact with responders, who might have mapping needs? Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan
Thanks Eugene. Updated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/High-resolution_imagery#Imagery_coverage_map with the new URL. Le 06/11/2013 11:43, Eugene Alvin Villar a écrit : Hi Jean-Guilhem, The map here is outdated: http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ The almost up-to-date map is here: http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/ Anyway, there's plenty of Bing satellite imagery that are not yet fully traced. Samar and Leyte are good candidates for this coming typhoon. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org mailto:jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, I browsed looking for new Bing high resolution images using http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer-ve/ , and found some that do not already appear on http://tools.openstreetmap.org.ph/imagery_coverage/ . (Maybe they were already mentioned on this list, I don't know) For example, in Northern Samar, Masbate, Panay Island, Surigao del Sur... (You can compare by setting the above coverage maps in two windows side by side). Along Northern Samar north coast, for example, it was thus possible to start mapping some roads (between Laoang and San Roque). More villages, town streets and rivers could also be added. There are certainly other areas in the same situation. Mandaon, for one example. Also, I checked Orbview-3 imagery again, but images that are not already online are (still) very cloudy. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 06/11/2013 10:42, Carlo Antonio Romero a écrit : This typhoon will definitely do some damage. Japan Meteorological Agency's bulletin [a] describes the typhoon's going to hit between Very Strong to Violent. Unfortunately, the typhoons path is vast as Eugene pointed out. From a mapping perspective... 1) There are some unfinished jobs in the tasking manager. I believe those will help the communities that are working on to create a disaster recovery or risk reduction plans. Candaba[b], Lubao[c], Guagua[d]. However, these areas are a couple hundred kilometres away from the typhoon centre. 2) If anybody sees imagery with good detail and roads are untraced in the Visayas, please let us know 3) Jean-Guilhem, if you're able to provide new imagery, that would be great. I believe you pointed out or provided new imagery when Typhoon Bopha/Pablo hit Mindanao. Aside from that, let me know where to map and ill be happy to help. [a] http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/1330.html [b] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/323 [c] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/329 [d] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/331 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com mailto:sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem, Currently, the typhoon is still too far off. The typhoon still has not yet entered our country's meteorological area of responsibility so our weather bureau (PAGASA) is not yet issuing any weather bulletins. In addition, we still have no idea where the typhoon will make landfall—the possible area is more than 1000 kilometers wide. So I cannot say for certain which areas would need mapping help. However, the province of Bohol, which was hit by by a magnitude 7.2 earthquake last October 15 is still recovering. Wherever the typhoon will make landfall, I'm sure Bohol will be affected. So I think concentrating on Bohol currently is best. However, there has already been a HOT task to map the affected area (southwestern Bohol) that has available satellite imagery[1] so I'm not sure what else can be done remotely. Maybe other people have ideas? Regards, Eugene [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org mailto:jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Hi, Seeing alerts about typhoon Yolanda / Haiyan, apparently forecast to have reached category 4 when hitting the Philippines on Friday, with winds that could reach 240 km/h and very heavy rains: http://www.gdacs.org/report.aspx?eventid=41058episodeid=9eventtype=TC Is there anything related to mapping that could be done to help? Is anyone in contact with responders, who might have mapping needs? Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
[OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout
Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u. Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Iedereen welkom. A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm for a possible agenda, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Feel free to join m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout
Hello, I have already some plans on friday evening so it will not be possible for me to join the hangout. I think it is possible to record an hangout on youtube. Will you do that (for the presentations)? Regards Marc On 6 November 2013 12:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u. Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Iedereen welkom. A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm for a possible agenda, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Feel free to join m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout
According to www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/onair.html it seems to be possible but I never use this. On 6 November 2013 12:46, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: We have discussed recording hangouts during the last hangout. Unfortunately, it was not possible (as far as the participants knew). There is a new way, just introduced this week by Google, for giving presentations. Unfortunately it's only 1 way communication as I understood. If you happen to know how to record a hangout it, let us know. If participant agrees, we can record it. regards m On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I have already some plans on friday evening so it will not be possible for me to join the hangout. I think it is possible to record an hangout on youtube. Will you do that (for the presentations)? Regards Marc On 6 November 2013 12:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u. Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Iedereen welkom. A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm for a possible agenda, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Feel free to join m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ter herinnering / A reminder -- Google Hangout
That's just announced this week, as far as I know. My first thought was that it was a different type of hangout, but after watching the introduction video, I'm not sure anymore. It seems to be possible for all hangouts. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.com wrote: According to www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts/onair.html it seems to be possible but I never use this. On 6 November 2013 12:46, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: We have discussed recording hangouts during the last hangout. Unfortunately, it was not possible (as far as the participants knew). There is a new way, just introduced this week by Google, for giving presentations. Unfortunately it's only 1 way communication as I understood. If you happen to know how to record a hangout it, let us know. If participant agrees, we can record it. regards m On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Marc Ducobu marc.duc...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I have already some plans on friday evening so it will not be possible for me to join the hangout. I think it is possible to record an hangout on youtube. Will you do that (for the presentations)? Regards Marc On 6 November 2013 12:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Ter herinnering: Er gaat een Google Hangout door deze vrijdag vanaf 20u. Voor een mogelijke agenda: zie http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Iedereen welkom. A reminder: We'll have a google hangout on Friday at 8pm for a possible agenda, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Belgium/Activities Feel free to join m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- et en avant pour de folles aventures... ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] New Boundary for Belgium - NL?
Hi, i've just stumble upon this : http://www.lalibre.be/actu/belgique/la-belgique-va-ceder-une-dizaine-d-hectares-aux-pays-bas-527b198035703e420f40e11f anyone has more informations about this? it might be interesting to be the first map to be up to date :) (sorry for the fr only article) Regards, Brice ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada
I got word back indicating that the OGL - Canada 2.0 is ODbL and CC BY compatible. This makes it easy for us to use. I want to offer my profound thanks to the federal government and the people I talked to in it for being willing to answer questions about licensing. -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:29 PM To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Cc: 'Levene, Mark'; 'David E. Nelson'; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Open Government License - Canada cc'ing to a few people who I have talked about this with in the past. Some governments in Canada have released data under the Open Government Licence - Canada, version 2.0. This is yet another new license. Some people have asked if we can use datasets available under this license. http://data.gc.ca/eng/open-government-licence-canada contains the full text of the version the Federal government is using. It is an attribution license and in a perfect world would be ODbL compatible. Of course we've seen plenty of attribution licenses screw something or other up. What is not obvious is that they expect other levels to modify the license to localize it with the information of their attribution statement and local laws, but let's start with the Federal one first. Once that's done we can look at BC, AB, Nanaimo, Vancouver... etc. One of the statements in the consultation on this license was The change of the attribution statement from OGL v1.0 to be one specific to the federal government reduces the ability to reuse this license by other jurisdictions (e.g. provinces) and will increase the number of licenses that have to be analysed. The origin of this license is the OGL 1.0, a UK license. The principle difference between UK and Canadian law is that database right does not exist in Canada. http://opendefinition.org/licenses/ lists OGL Canada 2.0 as an Open Definition conformant license. The question that matters for OSM is, can OGL Canada 2.0 datasets be released under the ODbL. One issue raised as problematic in some versions of the license is Personal Information For OSM, I do not see this as an issue. Personal Information is information about an identifiable individual, but datasets we would be interested in are information about places, not individuals. Third-party rights are a rights-clearing issue and something we'll need to check before using any source. Names, crests, etc and other IP rights would not be found in datasets of interest to OSM. Attribution is an odd one because they refer to information providers in the plural, but define it in a way so that it is only singular, so it's not clear which part of the attribution requirements applies. The ODbL requires that any copyright notices be kept intact for derivative databases. Produced works require a notice reasonably calculated to make any Person [...] aware that the content was obtained from [the database]. Attribution looks ODbL compatible, provided we figure out what statement to use. I'm not really sure where to take it from here in terms of an analysis. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Planet History file available
Hi Jochen I used your file without problem with osm-history-splitter and also osm-history-import With this tools i created an extraction of a region. Now i used it also with osm2pgsql with this syntax osm2pgsql -d osmh -u -m -x -k -S history.style file.osh the file history.style contains this configuration node,way osm_user text node,way osm_uidint8 node,way osm_versionint8 node,way osm_timestamp text The import fails with this message Reading in file: /home/napo/Desktop/file.osh osm2pgsql: parse-xml2.c:101: StartElement: Assertion `xlon' failed. Aborted (core dumped) I don't know if this is my fault or from the file Thanks On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Due to popular demand I have made a planet file with full history available at http://data.openstreetmapdata.com/planet-history-2013-11-02.osh.pbf The file has about 37 GB, it's MD5 is 22169f0f997391b090df546769eb2357. This was generated from the last official history and all the daily diffs until two days ago. THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL HISTORY FILE. I haven't tested it or verified that my code that generates this is doing the right thing, so no guarantees. (On the other hand there is not much to it, really, just collect all the objects in the planet and change files and put them in the right order.) Apply reasonable caution when using it. If there is demand I can make a osm.bz2 version available, too. Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.jochentopf.com/ +49-721-388298 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
I need to extract objects that fall within the bounds of Senegal - so I turned to the Overpass API... But it seems that my level of understanding does not yet match its power. I need your help ! As an exercise, let's find Dakar in Senegal - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qa : area[name=Senegal]; (area [name=Dakar] (area); ; ); out; I do get the city of Dakar, but also a restaurant in Spain and an apartment building in Seattle... So the area criteria seems inoperative - this query is equivalent to querying with no area criteria, like http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qb : area [name=Dakar]; out; Maybe selecting the area by name is too sloppy... Let's try selecting it by id - the relation for Senegal's boundaries is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/192775 and the query should therefore be http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qd : area[name=Dakar](area:192775); out; Same result, but I am not certain that the area criteria can take a relation id as its argument. Well... Maybe area selection is inoperative. Let's try with a good old bounding box - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qe : ( area [name=Dakar] (12.167,-17.7862419,16.6919959,-11.3458996) ); out; Same result. What am I doing wrong ? Is the syntax incorrect in every one of my queries ? As a fallback I could get the country extract and dig into it with xpath queries - but there is currently no regularly produced Senegal extract and I'm not yet ready to do that myself... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Redaction of inproperly imported protected areas data
During other work the DWG recently became aware of an improper import of data about protected area from World Database on Protected AReas (WDPA), a proprietary data source. I had initially thought the data was confined to Bolivia, but it appears to be in the following countries: - Mexico - Guatemala - Honduras - Ecuador - Peru - Bolivia Unfortunately, there's not really much to do but remove and redact the data as WDPA was previously contacted and declined to license their data under an open license. This message is just to let people know as it impacts more than one country. I expect all of this redaction to be done by the end of the week. It may sound like redacting data out of OSM is an easy thing to do but apart from using up time better spent on other aspects of OSM, redactions often also damage data that was built on top of an improper import. Redactions also tend to lead to confusion, with people reporting vandalism because something that used to be on the map isn't any more. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
Hi! As an exercise, let's find Dakar in Senegal Searching areas by area is not yet supported in Overpass API. See this feature request: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/45 Well... Maybe area selection is inoperative. Let's try with a good old bounding box This is also not yet implemented, unfortunately: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/55 If you only want to get the administrative area Dakar: Why not simply using something like this: area[name=Dakar][boundary=administrative]; out; This works as long as there isn't another city with the same name somewhere else. Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
There were few examples given over the last year. To use the relation no., you need to add 36 to it. 192775 Relation + 36 = 3600192775 These instructiions extract all nodes with the tag place inside the limits of Dakar. node [place] (area:3600192775); out meta; Pierre De : Martin Raifer tyr@gmail.com À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 6 novembre 2013 8h28 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area... Hi! As an exercise, let's find Dakar in Senegal Searching areas by area is not yet supported in Overpass API. See this feature request: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/45 Well... Maybe area selection is inoperative. Let's try with a good old bounding box This is also not yet implemented, unfortunately: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/55 If you only want to get the administrative area Dakar: Why not simply using something like this: area[name=Dakar][boundary=administrative]; out; This works as long as there isn't another city with the same name somewhere else. Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
Am 05.11.2013 14:49, schrieb Jochen Topf: So we have bad data in OSM and you want to fix it by making it harder to correct. Somehow I don't follow your argument... :-) While I do agree that it would be nice to have some kind of layering feature that allows us to aggregate date from different databases, this is a huge undertaking. It is much more than just adding a different database and let users change the API URL in their editors. How would you handle the ID spaces for instance. And it is totally unclear how things that are supposed to be changed together (think borders following a river or road) are to be handled. I suggest we keep the one database and think about how to improve the editors where needed. The JOSM filtering feature for instance is great to keep things pseudo-separate. +1 and I would like to combine it: JOSMs filtering feature is a really great starting point but it could be extended by a layering filter view which - defines layers by filters where one at a time can be selected for editing - provides a preset system to allow people to select the border layer or the water layer or the highway/road/path infrastructure layer in an abstract way without having to fiddle around with tag-specific filtering syntax on his own. Nevertheless there should be some warning structure wether someone changes a highway while moving a node of the boundary layer which is connected to both (highway and boundary), so it's not that simple to do, but it's possible and would be a great extension for the future - in JOSM as well as in other editors. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
On 06/11/2013 14:28, Martin Raifer wrote: As an exercise, let's find Dakar in Senegal Searching areas by area is not yet supported in Overpass API. See this feature request: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/45 Well... Maybe area selection is inoperative. Let's try with a good old bounding box This is also not yet implemented, unfortunately: https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/issues/55 Ok, thanks for the information. But then why do https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Language_Guide mention selections by bounding box, by polygon and by area ? If you only want to get the administrative area Dakar: Why not simply using something like this: [..] My queries were just test examples - what I actually want to do is find occurrences of nodes/ways/relations with a given key/value pair, within Senegal. I guess I'll do that with xpath queries on a planet extract... http://download.geofabrik.de/africa.html does not offer Senegal and I'm not sure I want to handle the 420 MB file... So I guess that for I'll use a rough bounding box from http://download.bbbike.org/osm/ until I have a better solution, or just abuse computing resources by using the whole 420 MB file for this menial job. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
On 06/11/2013 15:00, Pierre Béland wrote: There were few examples given over the last year. To use the relation no., you need to add 36 to it. 192775 Relation + 36 = 3600192775 These instructiions extract all nodes with the tag place inside the limits of Dakar. node [place] (area:3600192775); out meta; Whoah - it works... Thanks ! But why is 36 the magic number ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass area query gives results outside area...
On 06/11/2013 15:12, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: But why is 36 the magic number ? I find in my notes that I had also tried using that magic numbered identifier. For example, http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qn : area[name=Dakar](area:3600192775); out; The area selection does not work, whereas http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qo : node [name=Dakar] (area:3600192775); out; Works. So it may not just a problem with the identifier... Intersecting with an area works for nodes, ways and relations but may not work well for areas. Should I stick with just nodes, ways and relations for now ? Here is the sort of thing I'm actually doing: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qp ( node [name=Fatick](area:3600192775);; way [name=Fatick](area:3600192775);; rel [name=Fatick](area:3600192775);; area [name=Fatick](area:3600192775);; ); out; It works well, as far as I can tell - even for areas... But then there may not be other areas named 'Fatick' elsewhere in the world. More tests needed maybe ? Anyway how overpass-turbo serves such queries so quickly is a complete mystery to me... What a wonderful service ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database
2013/11/6 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de +1 and I would like to combine it: JOSMs filtering feature is a really great starting point but it could be extended by a layering filter view which - defines layers by filters where one at a time can be selected for editing - provides a preset system to allow people to select the border layer or the water layer or the highway/road/path infrastructure layer in an abstract way without having to fiddle around with tag-specific filtering syntax on his own. you specifiy which kind of objects you intend to modify (or select a preselection by topic someelse has provided) and the rest will be greyed out (or maybe invisible or only lines visible in grey but nodes not or with reduced size) and locked (not selectable, also not by select all, etc.), so you would be able to modify all specific stuff, also that which is glued to other stuff (and that other stuff would also be modified together if it is the same OSM object). This would IMHO be better than actual layers, because in my understanding with a real layer approach modifying something on one layer would not modify stuff on other layers (i.e. there would be node/way/rel copies in case the same geometry objects were used as well for other stuff than the selected). There might still be problems with geometry (eg. nodes) used multiple times for different ways or stuff part of relations (where the relation is not in the set that should be modified but would be implicitly modified anyway), were a user could potentially modify something he doesn't want to, now without even noticing because the effects on these other objects are hidden (could raise editor warnings for this kind of stuff maybe), but if you don't do it like this you will soon end up with lots of overlapping nodes and ways. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mensen die voordracht over OSM geven?
Hoi Raymond, Zoals het er nu naar uitziet, zou ik wel kunnen. Echter, aangezien Delft voor mij wel een beetje aan de andere kant van het land is het misschien handiger (wanneer je meerdere gegadigden hebt) om voor iemand anders te kiezen :-) Laat maar even weten. Gr, Henk Hoff 2013/11/5 Raymond van Vugt ligfietsraym...@gmail.com Hoi,5/ voor het weekend van de piratenpartij zoek ik eigenlijk een ervaren OSM'er die duidelijk en vrijblijvend OSM zou willen presenteren op 15/16 november te Delft. Zelf ben ik hypergeïnteresseerd, anderen ook, maar verder als openfietsmap op de garmin installeren en een beetje editten in potlach kom ik niet echt. Interesse? dan houdt ik me aanbevolen Groet, Raymond van Vugt ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mensen die voordracht over OSM geven?
jap idd, De uitnodiging staat nogsteeds en ik ben bereid er een door ons betaald etentje met de piraten tegenaan te gooien. Groet, Raymond On 6-11-2013 13:29, Henk Hoff wrote: Hoi Raymond, Zoals het er nu naar uitziet, zou ik wel kunnen. Echter, aangezien Delft voor mij wel een beetje aan de andere kant van het land is het misschien handiger (wanneer je meerdere gegadigden hebt) om voor iemand anders te kiezen :-) Laat maar even weten. Gr, Henk Hoff 2013/11/5 Raymond van Vugt ligfietsraym...@gmail.com mailto:ligfietsraym...@gmail.com Hoi,5/ voor het weekend van de piratenpartij zoek ik eigenlijk een ervaren OSM'er die duidelijk en vrijblijvend OSM zou willen presenteren op 15/16 november te Delft. Zelf ben ik hypergeïnteresseerd, anderen ook, maar verder als openfietsmap op de garmin installeren en een beetje editten in potlach kom ik niet echt. Interesse? dan houdt ik me aanbevolen Groet, Raymond van Vugt ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Eu normalmente coloco *exatamente* do jeito que se encontra no mapa do IBGE. Por exemplo, há pouco eu coloquei umas ruas assim Rua 01, Rua 02 etc que era o jeito que estava nos mapas urbanos do IBGE. abraço 2013/11/6 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com Personal website https://sites.google.com/site/geraldweberufmg/ Departamento de Física/Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Department of Physics/Federal University of Minas Gerais Campus da Pampulha Av. Antônio Carlos, 6627, 31270-901 Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil mobile: +55-(0)31-96462277 (mudou/changed 02/07/2013) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Eu sempre uso numerais mesmo. Em 06/11/2013 11:41, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com escreveu: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Arlindo Como e escrito no placa e no name=, o outro forma no alt_name= Asim, se o placa diz Rua Um, name=Rua Um; alt_name=Rua 1 Se o placa diz Rua 1, name=Rua 1; alt_name=Rua Um Este e no forma do On the ground truth Aun Johnsen On 6. nov. 2013, at 11:40, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Eu coloco sempre o numeral com algarismos na tag name e a versão literal na tag official_name. Assim, rua vinte e cinco de outubro fica: - name=Rua 25 de Outubro - official_name=Rua Vinte e Cinco de Outubro Quando a rua é muito referenciada por numerais romanos pela imprensa (caso das vias mais antigas), faço assim: - name=Praça XV de Novembro - alt_name=Praça 15 de Novembro - official_name=Praça Quinze de Novembro Um exemplo com ordinais: - name=Avenida 1º de Maio - alt_name=Avenida 1o de Maio - official_name=Avenida Primeiro de Maio Razões pra isso: - as pessoas entendem bem todas essas versões, e há igual probabilidade de procurarem por qualquer uma delas, então todas devem ser indexadas - com algarismos (sem zeros à esquerda) fica mais compacto no mapa e com isso mais informação pode ser mostrada de uma só vez - a maioria dos casos são denominações prévias e não nomes, então a maioria dessas ruas nem tem placas pra indicar a melhor forma de escrever o nome, assim acho que temos alguma liberdade para escolher a melhor forma de representar Tendo feito zilhões de correções sobre informações de fontes oficiais como o IBGE e o LABGEO/UFRGS, eu não ficaria tão preso à forma com que esses órgãos representam a informação, particularmente quando há formas melhores e mais naturais. Dá pra aplicar essa formatação rapidamente usando o JOSM mesmo, buscando por cada uma das palavras comuns em números: um, dois, ... vinte, trinta... cem, mil, primeiro, segundo... etc. Fiz isso aqui em Porto Alegre, dêem uma olhada no resultado: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.03105/-51.11326 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.01145/-51.11646 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-30.02843/-51.22702 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-30.02679/-51.20241 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lists li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Arlindo Como e escrito no placa e no name=, o outro forma no alt_name= Asim, se o placa diz Rua Um, name=Rua Um; alt_name=Rua 1 Se o placa diz Rua 1, name=Rua 1; alt_name=Rua Um Este e no forma do On the ground truth Aun Johnsen On 6. nov. 2013, at 11:40, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Ah, dentro dessa discussão, eu vinha seguindo o mesmo padrão também para numerais em áreas/pontos de interesse (POIs). O nível a partir do qual eu não fiz mais a compactação foi o nome de bairros, mas mesmo quadras e superquadras foram compactadas. Exemplos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244050673 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287367 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287312 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2076783052 Nota: a abreviação das superquadras e UVs não foi arbitrária, praticamente todos os endereços postais que eu encontrei na web seguem essa formatação aqui. 2013/11/6 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Eu coloco sempre o numeral com algarismos na tag name e a versão literal na tag official_name. Assim, rua vinte e cinco de outubro fica: - name=Rua 25 de Outubro - official_name=Rua Vinte e Cinco de Outubro Quando a rua é muito referenciada por numerais romanos pela imprensa (caso das vias mais antigas), faço assim: - name=Praça XV de Novembro - alt_name=Praça 15 de Novembro - official_name=Praça Quinze de Novembro Um exemplo com ordinais: - name=Avenida 1º de Maio - alt_name=Avenida 1o de Maio - official_name=Avenida Primeiro de Maio Razões pra isso: - as pessoas entendem bem todas essas versões, e há igual probabilidade de procurarem por qualquer uma delas, então todas devem ser indexadas - com algarismos (sem zeros à esquerda) fica mais compacto no mapa e com isso mais informação pode ser mostrada de uma só vez - a maioria dos casos são denominações prévias e não nomes, então a maioria dessas ruas nem tem placas pra indicar a melhor forma de escrever o nome, assim acho que temos alguma liberdade para escolher a melhor forma de representar Tendo feito zilhões de correções sobre informações de fontes oficiais como o IBGE e o LABGEO/UFRGS, eu não ficaria tão preso à forma com que esses órgãos representam a informação, particularmente quando há formas melhores e mais naturais. Dá pra aplicar essa formatação rapidamente usando o JOSM mesmo, buscando por cada uma das palavras comuns em números: um, dois, ... vinte, trinta... cem, mil, primeiro, segundo... etc. Fiz isso aqui em Porto Alegre, dêem uma olhada no resultado: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.03105/-51.11326 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.01145/-51.11646 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-30.02843/-51.22702 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-30.02679/-51.20241 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lists li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Arlindo Como e escrito no placa e no name=, o outro forma no alt_name= Asim, se o placa diz Rua Um, name=Rua Um; alt_name=Rua 1 Se o placa diz Rua 1, name=Rua 1; alt_name=Rua Um Este e no forma do On the ground truth Aun Johnsen On 6. nov. 2013, at 11:40, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Me parece um bom argumento, vou segui-lo. []s Arlindo 2013/11/6 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Ah, dentro dessa discussão, eu vinha seguindo o mesmo padrão também para numerais em áreas/pontos de interesse (POIs). O nível a partir do qual eu não fiz mais a compactação foi o nome de bairros, mas mesmo quadras e superquadras foram compactadas. Exemplos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244050673 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287367 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287312 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2076783052 Nota: a abreviação das superquadras e UVs não foi arbitrária, praticamente todos os endereços postais que eu encontrei na web seguem essa formatação aqui. 2013/11/6 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Eu coloco sempre o numeral com algarismos na tag name e a versão literal na tag official_name. Assim, rua vinte e cinco de outubro fica: - name=Rua 25 de Outubro - official_name=Rua Vinte e Cinco de Outubro Quando a rua é muito referenciada por numerais romanos pela imprensa (caso das vias mais antigas), faço assim: - name=Praça XV de Novembro - alt_name=Praça 15 de Novembro - official_name=Praça Quinze de Novembro Um exemplo com ordinais: - name=Avenida 1º de Maio - alt_name=Avenida 1o de Maio - official_name=Avenida Primeiro de Maio Razões pra isso: - as pessoas entendem bem todas essas versões, e há igual probabilidade de procurarem por qualquer uma delas, então todas devem ser indexadas - com algarismos (sem zeros à esquerda) fica mais compacto no mapa e com isso mais informação pode ser mostrada de uma só vez - a maioria dos casos são denominações prévias e não nomes, então a maioria dessas ruas nem tem placas pra indicar a melhor forma de escrever o nome, assim acho que temos alguma liberdade para escolher a melhor forma de representar Tendo feito zilhões de correções sobre informações de fontes oficiais como o IBGE e o LABGEO/UFRGS, eu não ficaria tão preso à forma com que esses órgãos representam a informação, particularmente quando há formas melhores e mais naturais. Dá pra aplicar essa formatação rapidamente usando o JOSM mesmo, buscando por cada uma das palavras comuns em números: um, dois, ... vinte, trinta... cem, mil, primeiro, segundo... etc. Fiz isso aqui em Porto Alegre, dêem uma olhada no resultado: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.03105/-51.11326 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.01145/-51.11646 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-30.02843/-51.22702 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-30.02679/-51.20241 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lists li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Arlindo Como e escrito no placa e no name=, o outro forma no alt_name= Asim, se o placa diz Rua Um, name=Rua Um; alt_name=Rua 1 Se o placa diz Rua 1, name=Rua 1; alt_name=Rua Um Este e no forma do On the ground truth Aun Johnsen On 6. nov. 2013, at 11:40, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Ruas com numerais no nome
Esqueci de botar o link da área em questão: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-22.84913/-43.30470 []s Arlindo 2013/11/6 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com Me parece um bom argumento, vou segui-lo. []s Arlindo 2013/11/6 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Ah, dentro dessa discussão, eu vinha seguindo o mesmo padrão também para numerais em áreas/pontos de interesse (POIs). O nível a partir do qual eu não fiz mais a compactação foi o nome de bairros, mas mesmo quadras e superquadras foram compactadas. Exemplos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/244050673 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287367 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3287312 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2076783052 Nota: a abreviação das superquadras e UVs não foi arbitrária, praticamente todos os endereços postais que eu encontrei na web seguem essa formatação aqui. 2013/11/6 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Eu coloco sempre o numeral com algarismos na tag name e a versão literal na tag official_name. Assim, rua vinte e cinco de outubro fica: - name=Rua 25 de Outubro - official_name=Rua Vinte e Cinco de Outubro Quando a rua é muito referenciada por numerais romanos pela imprensa (caso das vias mais antigas), faço assim: - name=Praça XV de Novembro - alt_name=Praça 15 de Novembro - official_name=Praça Quinze de Novembro Um exemplo com ordinais: - name=Avenida 1º de Maio - alt_name=Avenida 1o de Maio - official_name=Avenida Primeiro de Maio Razões pra isso: - as pessoas entendem bem todas essas versões, e há igual probabilidade de procurarem por qualquer uma delas, então todas devem ser indexadas - com algarismos (sem zeros à esquerda) fica mais compacto no mapa e com isso mais informação pode ser mostrada de uma só vez - a maioria dos casos são denominações prévias e não nomes, então a maioria dessas ruas nem tem placas pra indicar a melhor forma de escrever o nome, assim acho que temos alguma liberdade para escolher a melhor forma de representar Tendo feito zilhões de correções sobre informações de fontes oficiais como o IBGE e o LABGEO/UFRGS, eu não ficaria tão preso à forma com que esses órgãos representam a informação, particularmente quando há formas melhores e mais naturais. Dá pra aplicar essa formatação rapidamente usando o JOSM mesmo, buscando por cada uma das palavras comuns em números: um, dois, ... vinte, trinta... cem, mil, primeiro, segundo... etc. Fiz isso aqui em Porto Alegre, dêem uma olhada no resultado: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.03105/-51.11326 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-30.01145/-51.11646 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-30.02843/-51.22702 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-30.02679/-51.20241 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lists li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: Arlindo Como e escrito no placa e no name=, o outro forma no alt_name= Asim, se o placa diz Rua Um, name=Rua Um; alt_name=Rua 1 Se o placa diz Rua 1, name=Rua 1; alt_name=Rua Um Este e no forma do On the ground truth Aun Johnsen On 6. nov. 2013, at 11:40, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: Olá pessoal, como vocês costumam mapear ruas com numerais no nome? 1) name=Rua 1 / alt_name=Rua Um; ou 2) name=Rua Um / alt_name=Rua 1 []s Arlindo ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Tutorial osmfilter + geojson.io
Escrevi um pequeno tutorial de como fazer um mapa com marcadores importados do OpenStreetMap utilizando o osmfilter e o http://geojson.io Vejam em http://wille.blog.br/2013/11/criando-um-mapa-com-dados-importados-do-openstreetmap/ Valeu, Nelson, pela dica do osmfilter, esse software era o que eu procurava há muito tempo! Abraços, wille ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Tutorial osmfilter + geojson.io
Que show isso! Alguma chance de ir parar no wiki? Acho que seria válido incluir um link pro teu blog. 2013/11/7 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br Escrevi um pequeno tutorial de como fazer um mapa com marcadores importados do OpenStreetMap utilizando o osmfilter e o http://geojson.io Vejam em http://wille.blog.br/2013/11/criando-um-mapa-com-dados- importados-do-openstreetmap/ Valeu, Nelson, pela dica do osmfilter, esse software era o que eu procurava há muito tempo! Abraços, wille ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 07:59:35PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Dachte zunächst, der Landkreis Tübingen hiesse nicht Tübingen sondern Landkreis Tübingen, dito der Regierungsbezirk. Naja, sieht aber doch nicht so aus, habe mal ein bisschen gesucht und das hier gefunden: http://www.verfassungen.de/de/bw/bw-kreisreformgesetz71.htm sieht so aus, als hieße der Landkreis Tübingen evtl. doch Tübingen. Mist. Wobei einige Kreise sich als Landkreis und einige nur als Kreis bezeichnen. Scheint eine Bundeslandgeschichte zu sein. Wie man DAS dann abbildet - Puh. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:47:28PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 5. November 2013 16:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: In meinem kleinen Weltbild muesste da auf dem boundary ein admin_level=6;8 drauf - oder die relation gedoppelt (Wenn man noch so Amtliche Gemeindeschluessel hat die Kreis und Stadt unterschiedlich sind etc) +1, ich bin auch dafür, mehrere Relationen zu haben, wenn eine Einheit mehrere Level abdeckt, d.h. z.B. eine für Kreis, eine für Stadt. Wie man dann auf die Schnelle erkennt, dass die beiden wiederum dasselbe sind, weiss ich nicht, durch räumliche Analyse wäre es sicherlich möglich. Oder man macht nochmal ne Relation, um die beiden zusammenzubringen? ;-) Den Vorschlag der auf tagging kam find ich beim ersten nachdenken nicht dumm. Eine Multipolygon relation die die Grenze zusammenhaelt und ansonsten nichts beinhaltet. Dann hat diese Relation wiederum andere relations (Mangels anderem schönen objekt) als member die den admin level beinhalten und andere Metainformationen. Wierum jetzt der link ist bin ich nicht religioes. Damit ist Flaeche - also die ausdehung und lage - getrennt von der der Funktion. Keine ganz dumme Idee. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:51:25PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: +1, mache ich auch so bei Naturschutzgebieten (wobei es da glaub' mittlerweile auch europäische Quellen gibt, die man verwenden kann), bei Ortsschildern, bei Maxspeed, Maxweight etc. und bei allem, wo es sonst hilfreich sein kann. Da ist auch so viel Inkonsistenz ausgeschildert, dass man sonst verrückt wird, und so kann man es wenigstens belegen ;-) Ich könnte da mittlerweile einen 2 Stündigen Vortrag drüber halten wo falsch Beschildert wurde und was auf meinen Hinweis hin verändert oder entfernt worden ist. Bei der Stadt gibt es auch keinen gesamtplan aller Beschilderungen wie es mir scheint. Da werden gerne mal Sackgassen Schilder vergessen wenn durchstiche gebaut werden. Ich habe auch schon fallen für LKWs entdeckt - wo in ein Gebiet zwar ein - aber auf _keinem_ weg wieder herausgefahren werden durfte. Ich hätte erwartet das da wie bei From dusk til dawn ein haufen LKWs steht. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 11:18:27PM +0100, Garry wrote: Wenn da Leute wohnen die keine Bauern sind, dann ist es kein Track und wenn das keine Verbindungsstraßen sind, dann sind sie auch keine unclassifieds Wo gibt es so etwas in nenneswertem Ausmass? Also wo ich Wohne ist das eher die Regel als die Ausnahme. In NRW speziell hier Ostwestfalen-Lippe ist der Ländliche Raum tüchtig zersiedelt und wirkliche Landwirte gibt es kaum noch. D.h. die in den letzten 200 Jahren gebauten Altenteile sind heute Verkauft oder Vermietet. D.h. durch die ganzen (Gänsefüßchen) Wirtschaftswege die die Stadtbevölkerung als track bezeichnen würde fährt heute der Schulbus, die Müllabfuhr, Post etc. Vergleich - OWL http://goo.gl/maps/UgXmR Alles keine Tracks. Hier Rheinland-Pfalz http://goo.gl/maps/diOLW Hier sind es alles Tracks. Die Siedlungsstruktur ist sehr unterschiedlich und einfach woander zu mappen kann sehr Gefährlich sein. Alles was Öffentliche Straße ist und nicht der überwiegenden Landwirtschaftlichen Nutzung dient (Wenn der Postbote oder Müllabfuhr fährt gibt es dort mehr non-agrar Verkehrsbewegungen) ist bei mir unclassified. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
Am 06/nov/2013 um 09:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Wobei einige Kreise sich als Landkreis und einige nur als Kreis bezeichnen. Scheint eine Bundeslandgeschichte zu sein. Wie man DAS dann abbildet - Puh. manche haben das Kreis auch im Namen (meist wenn es keine Stadt ist, sondern eine Region den Namen gibt) und wieder andere heißen Stadtkreis (was ggf. etwas leicht anderes ist als ein Landkreis). Es gibt wohl name:prefix oder ähnlich fürs taggen. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] nominatim incremental updates Was: nominatim json results Was: nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:39:22PM +, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:
D.h. addr:postcode wird ignoriert sondern es werden die plz polygone
verwendet?
Beim Erstimport letztes Jahr wurden PLZ-Centroiden aus den damals vorhandenen
addr:postcode-Tags berechnet. Das ist so ziemlich alles, was verwendet wird.
Ich prokel da ja gerade ein bischen rum - Hatte eine Adresse da fehlte
die Straße - addr:* war auf den Buildings vollständig drauf.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/242237169
Dann habe ich die Straße hinzugefuegt - Leider wird die Adresse nicht gefunden,
nur die Straße.
Ist das ein indexing Problem was nur durch reimport gelöst werden kann (Oder
durch
update der Building outlines). Scheint als stoße hier das inkrementelle ändern
an seine Grenzen.
Oder bin ich wie immer nur zu ungeduldig?
Vorher - Es wird irgendein Lagerplatz gefunden.
$ wget -O - -q
'http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/?q=Hollenbergs+Hügel+41,49492+Westerkappelnformat=jsonv2addressdetails=1'
| perl -e 'use JSON; use Data::Dumper; print Dumper(decode_json(STDIN));'
$VAR1 = [
{
'importance' = 1,
'boundingbox' = [
'52.2819213867188',
'52.282585144043',
'7.85009336471558',
'7.85195827484131'
],
'licence' = Data \x{a9} OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL 1.0.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright;,
'lat' = '52.2822527',
'osm_id' = '153894516',
'osm_type' = 'way',
'display_name' = Lagerplatz Gemeinde Westerkappeln, Hollenbergs
H\x{fc}gel, Westerkappeln, Kreis Steinfurt, Regierungsbezirk M\x{fc}nster,
Nordrhein-Westfalen, 49492, Deutschland, European Union,
'place_rank' = '22',
'place_id' = '86992293',
'address' = {
'country' = 'Deutschland',
'state_district' = Regierungsbezirk M\x{fc}nster,
'country_code' = 'de',
'commercial' = 'Lagerplatz Gemeinde Westerkappeln',
'state' = 'Nordrhein-Westfalen',
'suburb' = Hollenbergs H\x{fc}gel,
'city' = 'Westerkappeln',
'continent' = 'European Union',
'county' = 'Kreis Steinfurt',
'postcode' = '49492'
},
'type' = 'commercial',
'lon' = '7.85102621916126',
'category' = 'landuse'
}
];
Straße hinzugefügt:
$ wget -O - -q
'http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/?q=Hollenbergs+Hügel+41,49492+Westerkappelnformat=jsonv2addressdetails=1'
| perl -e 'use JSON; use Data::Dumper; print Dumper(decode_json(STDIN));'
$VAR1 = [
{
'importance' = 1,
'boundingbox' = [
'52.2819213867188',
'52.282585144043',
'7.85009336471558',
'7.85195827484131'
],
'licence' = Data \x{a9} OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL 1.0.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright;,
'lat' = '52.2822527',
'osm_id' = '153894516',
'osm_type' = 'way',
'display_name' = Lagerplatz Gemeinde Westerkappeln, Hollenbergs
H\x{fc}gel, Westerkappeln, Kreis Steinfurt, Regierungsbezirk M\x{fc}nster,
Nordrhein-Westfalen, 49492, Deutschland, European Union,
'place_rank' = '22',
'place_id' = '86992293',
'address' = {
'country' = 'Deutschland',
'state_district' = Regierungsbezirk M\x{fc}nster,
'country_code' = 'de',
'commercial' = 'Lagerplatz Gemeinde Westerkappeln',
'state' = 'Nordrhein-Westfalen',
'suburb' = Hollenbergs H\x{fc}gel,
'city' = 'Westerkappeln',
'continent' = 'European Union',
'county' = 'Kreis Steinfurt',
'postcode' = '49492'
},
'type' = 'commercial',
'lon' = '7.85102621916126',
'category' = 'landuse'
},
{
'importance' = '0.9',
'boundingbox' = [
'52.2846755981445',
'52.2854766845703',
'7.8456859588623',
'7.84583759307861'
],
'licence' = Data \x{a9} OpenStreetMap contributors, ODbL 1.0.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright;,
'lat' = '52.2847432',
'osm_id' = '242230854',
Re: [Talk-de] nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 09:16:25AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:47:28PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 5. November 2013 16:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: In meinem kleinen Weltbild muesste da auf dem boundary ein admin_level=6;8 drauf - oder die relation gedoppelt (Wenn man noch so Amtliche Gemeindeschluessel hat die Kreis und Stadt unterschiedlich sind etc) +1, ich bin auch dafür, mehrere Relationen zu haben, wenn eine Einheit mehrere Level abdeckt, d.h. z.B. eine für Kreis, eine für Stadt. Wie man dann auf die Schnelle erkennt, dass die beiden wiederum dasselbe sind, weiss ich nicht, durch räumliche Analyse wäre es sicherlich möglich. Oder man macht nochmal ne Relation, um die beiden zusammenzubringen? ;-) Den Vorschlag der auf tagging kam find ich beim ersten nachdenken nicht dumm. Eine Multipolygon relation die die Grenze zusammenhaelt und ansonsten nichts beinhaltet. Dann hat diese Relation wiederum andere relations (Mangels anderem schönen objekt) als member die den admin level beinhalten und andere Metainformationen. Verschachtelte Relationen ist etwas, was osm2pgsql nicht kann und wo auch keine Implementierung in Sicht ist. Da sieht es also eher schlecht aus mit einer Unterstützung durch Nominatim. Sarah ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] nominatim incremental updates Was: nominatim json results Was: nominatim und Kreisfreie Städte
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:32:57AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:39:22PM +, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: D.h. addr:postcode wird ignoriert sondern es werden die plz polygone verwendet? Beim Erstimport letztes Jahr wurden PLZ-Centroiden aus den damals vorhandenen addr:postcode-Tags berechnet. Das ist so ziemlich alles, was verwendet wird. Ich prokel da ja gerade ein bischen rum - Hatte eine Adresse da fehlte die Straße - addr:* war auf den Buildings vollständig drauf. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/242237169 Dann habe ich die Straße hinzugefuegt - Leider wird die Adresse nicht gefunden, nur die Straße. Ist das ein indexing Problem was nur durch reimport gelöst werden kann (Oder durch update der Building outlines). Scheint als stoße hier das inkrementelle ändern an seine Grenzen. Oder bin ich wie immer nur zu ungeduldig? Da vergisst der Update-Prozess ein Reindexing für die Gebäude anzustossen. Ich denke, dass könnte man einbauen, schreib mal einen Bugreport. Ist das übringes nicht ein klassischer Fall für addr:place? Es sieht so aus, als wenn die Strassen da eigentlich keinen Namen haben und die Adresse sich auf die Siedlung bezieht. Gruss Sarah ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
Am 6. November 2013 09:28 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Also wo ich Wohne ist das eher die Regel als die Ausnahme. Hier auch. Fast das komplette Land ist hier total zersiedelt, auch wenn es keine geschlossene Ortschaft gibt, so wohnen doch fast überall Leute, Du kannst beliebig mit der Luftbildkarte Deiner Wahl irgendwo reinzoomen, wo nicht gerade Berge sind, und wirst entsprechend Wohnbebauung erkennen können, z.B. hier: https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=dell=41.664449,12.745342spn=0.053604,0.51t=hz=14 Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
Am 06.11.2013, 07:57 Uhr, schrieb bkmap burkhard.kirch...@web.de: Bei nicht-residental kommt halt innerorts ein maxspeed mit source:maxspeed=de:urban dran. Für residental außer Orts fällt mir jetzt kein Beispiel ein, aber wenn das auftreten sollte, bekommt der Weg z.B. maxspeed=100 source:maxspeed=DE:rural. Das source:maxspeed-Tag ist nicht so praktisch zur Kennzeichnung. Denn wo liegt eine Straße, die mit source:maxspeed=sign + maxspeed=30 oder 70 getaggt ist? Die Schilder traffic_sign=city_limit funktionieren auch nicht, denn wenn man aus dem Wald, von der Anlegestelle oder von einem eigenständigen Radweg kommt sieht man keine Schilder. Außerdem gibt es bisher (leider!) noch keine Lösung für die Richtung eines (Schild-)Knoten an einem Weg. Schilder neben dem Weg abzufragen scheint mir für die Auswertung/Routing viel zu umständlich. Die ganzen getaggten Schilder oder eine Häufung von residentials kann höchstens zur Qualitätskontrolle eingesetzt werden. -- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
Am 6. November 2013 13:54 schrieb Masi Master masi-mas...@gmx.de: Das source:maxspeed-Tag ist nicht so praktisch zur Kennzeichnung. Denn wo liegt eine Straße, die mit source:maxspeed=sign + maxspeed=30 oder 70 getaggt ist? wie relevant ist das? Im Prinzip hast Du Recht, beides zusammen (Ortsschilder und source:maxspeed) sollten normalerweise ausreichen aber es mag Ausnahmen geben. Wenn man es gern noch gründlicher machen will (weil man z.B. auch in OSM die Info drin haben will, ob man rechts überholen darf und das Rechtsfahrgebot aufgehoben ist, oder ob Parkleuchten beim Parken ausreichen) kann man ja auch noch einen weiteren tag einführen (innerort=yes) und promoten in der Hoffnung, dass das auch viele andere Mapper für wichtig erachten. Die Schilder traffic_sign=city_limit funktionieren auch nicht, denn wenn man aus dem Wald, von der Anlegestelle oder von einem eigenständigen Radweg kommt sieht man keine Schilder. das kommt wohl auf die Gegend an. In der Gegend in D., die ich ganz gut kenne, sind die Ortseingangsschilder an jedem Weg, der befahrbar ist (auch Feldwege etc.). Bei Radwegen bin ich mir nicht sicher, für Radfahrer spielt es ja auch keine Rolle, ggf. würde ich Radwege bei einer automatischen Innerorts-Analyse nicht berücksichtigen. Außerdem gibt es bisher (leider!) noch keine Lösung für die Richtung eines (Schild-)Knoten an einem Weg. Schilder neben dem Weg abzufragen scheint mir für die Auswertung/Routing viel zu umständlich. Ist glaube ich viel weniger umständlich oder kompliziert als die Innerorts-Inseln automatisch zu ermitteln. Die Frage ist doch, wie wichtig uns diese innerorts-Thematik überhaupt ist (offenbar nicht besonders, sonst wäre es schon längst gelöst), wenn man den Hauptaspekt (implizite Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung) schon an die ways gemappt hat. Letzteres allerdings empfehle ich auch, weil es doch erheblichen Einfluss auf die Routingergebnisse hat, vor allem in Gegenden ohne weitere explizite Limits (in D. ist ja meistens sowieso 30 in Wohngebieten). Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] path am Strand fuer den Router ...
Am 04.11.2013 20:16, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Die Routing-Engine muss nun also nicht einfach nur Wege quer ueber den Platz produzieren (das waere ja leicht einzubauen), sondern sie muss alle flaechen- und linienfoermigen Objekte, die sich ebenfalls auf dem Platz befinden, auf ihre Hindernis-Eigenschaft hin untersuchen. Wenn wirklich ein Routing-Entwickler sich von unangebrachtem Perfektionismus dazu verleiten lässt, dieses dringende Thema weiter schleifen zu lassen, ist das eine arge Fehleinschätzung. Lieber ab und an mal zufällig eine komische Route durchs Denkmal erwischen statt *immer* eine komische Route produzieren, oder? Zumal es ja derselbe Algorithmus ist, egal ob ich nur MP-inners oder auch sonstige Hindernisse berücksichtige. Die Arbeit wäre insofern nicht vergeblich, auch wenn man erst mal den einfacheren Weg wählt und erst später Detailprobleme angeht. Also nein, diese Ausrede lasse ich nicht gelten. ;) Gruß, Tobias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
Moin, Am 06.11.2013 14:48, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 6. November 2013 13:54 schrieb Masi Master masi-mas...@gmx.de: Das source:maxspeed-Tag ist nicht so praktisch zur Kennzeichnung. Denn wo liegt eine Straße, die mit source:maxspeed=sign + maxspeed=30 oder 70 getaggt ist? wie relevant ist das? Im Prinzip hast Du Recht, beides zusammen (Ortsschilder und source:maxspeed) sollten normalerweise ausreichen aber es mag Ausnahmen geben. Wenn man es gern noch gründlicher machen will (weil man z.B. auch in OSM die Info drin haben will, ob man rechts überholen darf und das Rechtsfahrgebot aufgehoben ist, oder ob Parkleuchten beim Parken ausreichen) kann man ja auch noch einen weiteren tag einführen (innerort=yes) und promoten in der Hoffnung, dass das auch viele andere Mapper für wichtig erachten. vor Jahren (etwa 2010) wurde da mal der Vorschlag zone:traffic=DE:rural bzw. DE:urban gemacht, den ich seitdem verwende (dafür leider kein source:maxspeed ... aber irgendwas ist ja immer ...) Ebenso zone:maxspeed=*, wenn es mit Zeichen 274.1 ausgeschildert ist. Gruß Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] path am Strand fuer den Router ...
Am 6. November 2013 15:25 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Wenn wirklich ein Routing-Entwickler sich von unangebrachtem Perfektionismus dazu verleiten lässt, dieses dringende Thema weiter schleifen zu lassen, ist das eine arge Fehleinschätzung. Lieber ab und an mal zufällig eine komische Route durchs Denkmal erwischen statt *immer* eine komische Route produzieren, oder? Zumal es ja derselbe Algorithmus ist, egal ob ich nur MP-inners oder auch sonstige Hindernisse berücksichtige. Die Arbeit wäre insofern nicht vergeblich, auch wenn man erst mal den einfacheren Weg wählt und erst später Detailprobleme angeht. Also nein, diese Ausrede lasse ich nicht gelten. ;) mindestens die outer eines highway-Multipolygons als einfachen graph zu interpretieren sollte einfach sein, und würde diesen bug schon quasi lösen (bisher ist da dann einfach ein Loch im Graph). Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] path am Strand fuer den Router ...
Am 06.11.2013 16:41, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: mindestens die outer eines highway-Multipolygons als einfachen graph zu interpretieren sollte einfach sein, und würde diesen bug schon quasi lösen (bisher ist da dann einfach ein Loch im Graph). Das würde ich als absolute Mindestanforderung ansehen, aber auch für den kürzesten Weg über eine Fläche mit Hindernissen gibt es fertige Algorithmen. Müsste man nur in den entsprechenden Programmen auch umsetzen. Ok, nur - ich weiß dass beim Entwickeln man nie genug Zeit für alles hat. Aber wie man an diesem Thread merkt, verführt das Fehlen dieses für Navis jenseits des Autos essentiellen Features so manchen Mapper zunehmend zu schmutzigen Hacks. Tobias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Hallo zusammen, meine Freundin braucht Karten von Russland, weil sie dort Wandern möchte. Anscheinen ist es wohl schwierig Karten von dort auf Papier zu bekommen. Ich habe den Karteausschnitt einfach mal in den Anhang geschoben. Vielleicht weiß ja jemand wo man solche Karten her bekommt, oder ob es einen Anbieter giebt, der OSM-Karten druckt oder wie man das möglichst einfach, im Maststab 1:125000, selber machen kann. Die OSM Variante wäre natürlich am elegantesten ;) liebe Grüße Subidux -- Subidux Kontakt: subi...@gmx.de subi...@jabber.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Am 6. November 2013 19:36 schrieb Subidux subi...@gmx.de: meine Freundin braucht Karten von Russland, weil sie dort Wandern möchte. Anscheinen ist es wohl schwierig Karten von dort auf Papier zu bekommen. Ich habe den Karteausschnitt einfach mal in den Anhang geschoben. Vielleicht weiß ja jemand wo man solche Karten her bekommt, oder ob es einen Anbieter giebt, der OSM-Karten druckt oder wie man das möglichst einfach, im Maststab 1:125000, selber machen kann. Die OSM Variante wäre natürlich am elegantesten ;) wobei es u.U. strafbar sein kann, diese Karten in Russland zu benutzen, wenn da auch landuse=military dargestellt ist ;-) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Hier noch die Kartenausschnitt-Links, weil das Bild anscheinen zu groß ist: Ecke links-oben: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.209mlon=38.870#map=7/45.209/38.870layers=Q Ecke rechts-unten: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.931mlon=46.088#map=7/41.931/46.088layers=Q liebe Grüße Subidux -- Subidux Kontakt: subi...@gmx.de subi...@jabber.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] path am Strand fuer den Router ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.11.2013 18:57, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Das würde ich als absolute Mindestanforderung ansehen, aber auch für den kürzesten Weg über eine Fläche mit Hindernissen gibt es fertige Algorithmen. Müsste man nur in den entsprechenden Programmen auch umsetzen. Das sind ja alles nette Überlegungen, nur ändert es am aktuellen Problem nicht viel. Anaolges Problem: Soll man jetzt loslegen und Super-Mega-Multipolygone eintragen und wenn dann einer kommt und anmerkt, dass es einfacher für Anfänger wäre, wenn man den Thüringer Wald nicht als ein MP einträgt, antworten: Dann müssen halt die Editoren besser werden... Aktuell sind die Router noch nicht so weit. Da hilft es nicht, wenn man sagt: Man könnte aber und Dann müssen halt Oder denkt evtl. mal darüber nach, woran man die Nomadenwege in der Wüste erkennt? Oder soll da auch der Router irgendwie durch die Fläche Wüste routen. ;) Henning -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSeqEuAAoJEPFgsWC7jOeTOREH/2LTIn7VGS6BHQ4haEaRRvuN er1S47q1EOsGXohbaAReMWDymWmpWP/6NqBjbowNnAWq7ikpoVxbsS6ZGwi5mrg6 m/NNfD91G1RYBqSuPc30HgSrzBw+JyjBOGscyUxtwdD6+eEgR9zYwquphoQgVekz X7P/UMhrNRXmVw8OJFaadZr9nQZbw9ds9J/HCU5zOlPN862DrcFN0WHRBkTxPQ2Z Ev9NVFucreYt9RSqAv8GXPA10hUUynalhgnhhBRL4ChvzXKPytGPONyU2Ze/jyck liAJ4gdzxmhncnOHbahe4v5VPF3poylHPpvBUfWVIrcIyTFBJQ5a9PkS5nlOVp8= =MVbP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] path am Strand fuer den Router ...
Am 04.11.2013 20:52, schrieb Martin Raifer: Der Weg existiert ja defakto nicht. Doch. Ist davon abhängig, wie man Weg definiert (nein, ich guck jetzt nicht im Wikipedia nach ;-) ) Ich persönlich habe so einen Strandweg schonmal von path auf highway=trail umgemappt. Wird von den meisten Renderern ignoriert. Grüße, Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] innerorts oder außerorts - WAS: Datenmodell für straßenbegleitende Wege
Am 06.11.2013, 14:48 Uhr, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 6. November 2013 13:54 schrieb Masi Master masi-mas...@gmx.de: Das source:maxspeed-Tag ist nicht so praktisch zur Kennzeichnung. Denn wo liegt eine Straße, die mit source:maxspeed=sign + maxspeed=30 oder 70 getaggt ist? wie relevant ist das? Im Prinzip hast Du Recht, beides zusammen (Ortsschilder und source:maxspeed) sollten normalerweise ausreichen aber es mag Ausnahmen geben. Wenn man es gern noch gründlicher machen will (weil man z.B. auch in OSM die Info drin haben will, ob man rechts überholen darf und das Rechtsfahrgebot aufgehoben ist, oder ob Parkleuchten beim Parken ausreichen) kann man ja auch noch einen weiteren tag einführen (innerort=yes) und promoten in der Hoffnung, dass das auch viele andere Mapper für wichtig erachten. Relevant u.a. für Mofafahrer. Sowas wie innerort=yes ist ja ganz praktisch, allerdings denke ich nach wie vor, das es nur mit einem großen Polygon funktionieren kann. (Bei Umweltzonen ist es ja genauso.) Die Schilder traffic_sign=city_limit funktionieren auch nicht, denn wenn man aus dem Wald, von der Anlegestelle oder von einem eigenständigen Radweg kommt sieht man keine Schilder. das kommt wohl auf die Gegend an. In der Gegend in D., die ich ganz gut kenne, sind die Ortseingangsschilder an jedem Weg, der befahrbar ist (auch Feldwege etc.). Bei Radwegen bin ich mir nicht sicher, für Radfahrer spielt es ja auch keine Rolle, ggf. würde ich Radwege bei einer automatischen Innerorts-Analyse nicht berücksichtigen. Die Frage kam doch aus der Richtung außerorts ist Mofa fahren auf Radwegen erlaubt. An Radwegen gibt es normalerweise kein maxspeed- oder Ortseingangsschild, bzw. wird es dort nicht getaggt. Mofa-FahrerInnen sind zwar nur ne kleine Gruppe... Überflüssig könnte es nur sein, weil es ein darf ist, und die Fahrbahn ohnehin sicherer ist. Außerdem gibt es bisher (leider!) noch keine Lösung für die Richtung eines (Schild-)Knoten an einem Weg. Schilder neben dem Weg abzufragen scheint mir für die Auswertung/Routing viel zu umständlich. Ist glaube ich viel weniger umständlich oder kompliziert als die Innerorts-Inseln automatisch zu ermitteln. Die Frage ist doch, wie wichtig uns diese innerorts-Thematik überhaupt ist (offenbar nicht besonders, sonst wäre es schon längst gelöst), wenn man den Hauptaspekt (implizite Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung) schon an die ways gemappt hat. Letzteres allerdings empfehle ich auch, weil es doch erheblichen Einfluss auf die Routingergebnisse hat, vor allem in Gegenden ohne weitere explizite Limits (in D. ist ja meistens sowieso 30 in Wohngebieten). Ja, hab mir extra ein JOSM-Preset gebastelt, das die source:maxspeed immer mit drangängt, weil ich vorher immer ein schlechtes Gewissen hatte, das zu unterschlagen. -- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 172 29.10.-4.11.2013
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 172 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2013/11/07/wochennotiz-nr-172/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Am 06/nov/2013 um 08:05 schrieb Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Le stazioni ferroviarie sono individuate come nodi della rete. Poi comunque c'è l'edificio principale. Per collegare l'articolo wiki, usiamo il nodo o l'edificio? potresti usare railway=station sull'intera stazione (area, compreso i binari e gli edifici) ed aggiungere il tag wikipedia lì. Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Modifiche alle mappe
Io posso darti una mano per quello che è possibile! a volte non basta solo la traccia ma bisogna conoscere anche il territorio di che zona si sta parlando? comunque se mandi le traccie qui : osm.ltfr (chiocciola) gmail.com posso aiutarti poi se c'è qualcuno della zona ancora meglio Il 05/11/2013 23:33, Fra ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, sono un nuovo iscritto, utilizzo open cycle map per lavoro e spesso vedo qualche cosa in giro da modificare o da aggiungere. Per ora nn ho molto tempo x imparare a editare le mappe, ma sto raccogliendo tutto in un kml. Se c'è qualcuno più pratico posso inviare il file con le modifiche da fare. F995* .. -. ...- .. .- - --- -.-. --- -. -.-. --- -.. .. -.-. . -- --- .-. ... . ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Regole accesso
Am 06/nov/2013 um 08:44 schrieb Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com: poi questo non vuol dire che i cartelli vengano messi rispettando il codice della strada: in un caso evidente come quello dell'altra mail io metterei anche foot=no Però potrebbe anche essere che non hanno escluso i pedoni appositamente perché non ci sono alternative per raggiungere certi punti a piedi. Comunque, appena visto, in osm risulta inserita come motorroad, http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/157087874 In un altro caso, cittadina in montagna, ho trovato in mezzo ad un'area accessibile solo a piedi (stretto e ogni tanto scale) un vicolo trasversale chiuso da una transenna (solo per metà larghezza del vicolo) è attaccato un divieto di transito. Era chiaro (penso) che si svolgeva ai pedoni, però visto che si passava tranquillamente al lato non era una barriera fisica ma soltanto legale, e legalmente il divieto di transito non dovrebbe valere per i pedoni. In casi come questi, metti che ci passi e ti succede qualcosa, secondo la giurisdizione italiana è più probabile che ti fanno la pena a te o al comune? Ciao, Martin___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] confuso: mappare gli alberi
Il 06 novembre 2013 00:44, pjhooker ha scritto: Poi ho provato a legarlo ad un elemento di OSM (la foto di Flickr) ma poi quell'elemento registrato, non sembra esistere... http://www.flickr.com/photos/68734101@N04/tags/osm%3Away%3D24731655/ sembra che associa tutti gli elementi alle sole way .. non so perché non trova la tua foto, ma queste ad esempio le trova: osm:way=138843633 osm:node=1488903516 -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Fatemi capire. Io creo un poligono che comprenda tutta l'area della stazione che diventa railway=station con tutte le info dell'attuale nodo sul binario 1. Come rendering si vedrà il nome e il quadratino azzurro sul centroide del poligono. Poi devo aggiungere un railway=stop dove ora c'è il nodo in modo che funzioni il routing. Nome anche al railway=stop? Grazie Ciao G Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Am 06/nov/2013 um 08:05 schrieb Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Le stazioni ferroviarie sono individuate come nodi della rete. Poi comunque c'è l'edificio principale. Per collegare l'articolo wiki, usiamo il nodo o l'edificio? potresti usare railway=station sull'intera stazione (area, compreso i binari e gli edifici) ed aggiungere il tag wikipedia lì. Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Fatemi capire. Io creo un poligono che comprenda tutta l'area della stazione che diventa railway=station con tutte le info dell'attuale nodo sul binario 1. Come rendering si vedrà il nome e il quadratino azzurro sul centroide del poligono. Poi devo aggiungere un railway=stop dove ora c'è il nodo in modo che funzioni il routing. Nome anche al railway=stop? direi che questo dovrebbe essere corretto Grazie Ciao G -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Comunque c'è molta confusione nel mappare le stazioni. Alle volte è segnata in un nodo su un binario, alle volte in un'edificio, alle volte è un nodo al centro dell'area, alle volte un poligono. Per non parlare della nuova proposta public_transport=* Vediamo che fare : ) Grazie a tutti. G Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 10:24, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Fatemi capire. Io creo un poligono che comprenda tutta l'area della stazione che diventa railway=station con tutte le info dell'attuale nodo sul binario 1. Come rendering si vedrà il nome e il quadratino azzurro sul centroide del poligono. Poi devo aggiungere un railway=stop dove ora c'è il nodo in modo che funzioni il routing. Nome anche al railway=stop? direi che questo dovrebbe essere corretto Grazie Ciao G -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il 06/11/2013 09:09, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: Am 06/nov/2013 um 08:05 schrieb Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Le stazioni ferroviarie sono individuate come nodi della rete. Poi comunque c'è l'edificio principale. Per collegare l'articolo wiki, usiamo il nodo o l'edificio? potresti usare railway=station sull'intera stazione (area, compreso i binari e gli edifici) ed aggiungere il tag wikipedia lì. Per l'intera area della stazione non sarebbe meglio landuse=railway? E poi magari fare una relation site con dentro tutte le sue parti (dal building=train_station alle piattaforme e ai sottopassi)... ciao Paolo M PS: Per quanto riguarda il name IMHO all'edificio va messo Stazione di ..., mentre sul binario il nome senza stazione di (a proposito, nel caso venisse messo su tutti gli stop non è che poi col rendering viene fuori un casino?) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Regole accesso
Fabri wrote e poi mi domando se motorcar corrisponda al nostro autoveicoli tutti i motoveicoli e autoveicoli a motore con tre o più ruote ma non è meglio motor_vehicle per tutti i mezzi a motore? Beh assolutamente non corrisponde, in quanto anche le moto sono veicoli a motore ma per queste c'è un apposito cartello. Si parla di singola traccia o doppia traccia, le moto a tre ruote son da considerare autoveicoli. Il solo cerchio non vale per i pedoni, solo per i veicoli. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Regole-accesso-tp5784165p5784268.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il 05 novembre 2013 22:04, Simone F. ha scritto: ho aggiunto alcune cose alle pagine con i tag Wikipedia mancanti ottimo lavoro (1) Un'icona avverte che l'articolo è taggato in OSM ma in Wikipedia manca la scritta con le coordinate ed il link ad OSM, ossia il template Coord. Cliccando l'icona un pop up spiega come aggiungerlo. questa pagina è segnata come mancante del template Coord: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camillo_Benso_conte_di_Cavour però in realtà è un redirect a questa pagina che ha già quel template: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Cavour_(Livorno) si può evitare di segnalare la mancanza del template in casi del genere o riferirlo alla pagina effettiva oppure mettere un'icona accanto a tutti i redirect? altra cosa, vedo che l'aggiornamento della categorie è al primo ottobre, magari lo potreste fare almeno una volta al mese (vorrei vedere se certe modifiche che ho fatto dal lato wikipedia hanno l'effetto voluto) -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] confuso: mappare gli alberi
Inizio a divertirmi ... Daniele, non so perchè non si vede ... solo quando entro si vede, eppure è pubblica. - Se vado nella foto di Flickr ( link http://www.flickr.com/photos/68734101@N04/9995354705/ ) oltre a trovare tra i tag macchina - osm:way=199625360 - vedo anche nelle informazioni che: Castello di San Giorgio http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/199625360 è un sito storico in OpenStreetMap. - - la mappa però di Flickr, ha una navigazione un po' scomoda - caricata la foto in Wikimedia ( link https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Castello_di_Legnano.jpg ) ed inserita nella categoria Castello di Legnano https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Castello_Legnano - nella pagina di descrizione della categoria, ho inserito il link all'elemento di OSM: Castello di San Giorgio (199625360) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/199625360 - mi manca da trovare il modo di inserire correttamente la categoria delle foto, nella voce di Wikipedia Castello di Legnano https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castello_di_Legnano -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/confuso-mappare-gli-alberi-tp5784040p5784275.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Scusate ancora, questo è il risultato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.72623/8.62857 Solo che il rendering compre completamente le piattaforme e il sottopasso. Mah... Forse è meglio come suggerito il landuse=railway e mantenere il railway=station come nodo più o meno al centro dell'area e non su un binario. Che dite? Ciao G Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 11:00, Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 05 novembre 2013 22:04, Simone F. ha scritto: ho aggiunto alcune cose alle pagine con i tag Wikipedia mancanti ottimo lavoro (1) Un'icona avverte che l'articolo è taggato in OSM ma in Wikipedia manca la scritta con le coordinate ed il link ad OSM, ossia il template Coord. Cliccando l'icona un pop up spiega come aggiungerlo. questa pagina è segnata come mancante del template Coord: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camillo_Benso_conte_di_Cavour però in realtà è un redirect a questa pagina che ha già quel template: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Cavour_(Livorno) si può evitare di segnalare la mancanza del template in casi del genere o riferirlo alla pagina effettiva oppure mettere un'icona accanto a tutti i redirect? altra cosa, vedo che l'aggiornamento della categorie è al primo ottobre, magari lo potreste fare almeno una volta al mese (vorrei vedere se certe modifiche che ho fatto dal lato wikipedia hanno l'effetto voluto) -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Ciao, scusate se intervengo solo ora. Il 06 novembre 2013 10:58, Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 05/11/2013 22:04, Simone F. ha scritto: Un'icona avverte che l'articolo è taggato in OSM ma in Wikipedia manca la scritta con le coordinate ed il link ad OSM, ossia il template Coord. Cliccando l'icona un pop up spiega come aggiungerlo. Solo per far presente che in alcuni casi il template Coord non serve dato che è possibile aggiungere le coordinate direttamente nel template sinottico. [...] ps: dovrebbe valere per aeroporti, dighe, fari, isole, masse d'acqua (mari e laghi), ponti, stazioni metereologiche, strutture militari e vie ferrate. +1. Potete vedere se il template coord è inserito nella pagina (anche attraverso un altro template) guardando sotto la casella di modifica. Avete la lista di tutti i template transclusi nella voce, anche in modo indiretto. C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Scusate ancora, questo è il risultato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.72623/8.62857 Solo che il rendering compre completamente le piattaforme e il sottopasso. Mah... Forse è meglio come suggerito il landuse=railway e mantenere il railway=station come nodo più o meno al centro dell'area e non su un binario. Che dite? ok per landuse, station però lo metterei sulla stazione e sul binario userei stop Ciao G -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com Fatemi capire. Io creo un poligono che comprenda tutta l'area della stazione che diventa railway=station con tutte le info dell'attuale nodo sul binario 1. Come rendering si vedrà il nome e il quadratino azzurro sul centroide del poligono. Poi devo aggiungere un railway=stop dove ora c'è il nodo in modo che funzioni il routing. Nome anche al railway=stop? lo puoi fare. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstop Oppure segui lo schema qui: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport Gli edifici della stazione possono essere comunque segnalate (building=train_station o quel che sono, metterei train_station soltanto ai/al'edifici/o principale). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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Esatto Martin, ho guardato anch'io lo stesso schema, che riporta questo esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/47.35762/8.43727 Addirittura c'è una relation che collega tutti gli elementi della stazione. Grazie G Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 11:27, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Scusate ancora, questo è il risultato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.72623/8.62857 Solo che il rendering compre completamente le piattaforme e il sottopasso. Mah... Forse è meglio come suggerito il landuse=railway e mantenere il railway=station come nodo più o meno al centro dell'area e non su un binario. Che dite? ok per landuse, station però lo metterei sulla stazione e sul binario userei stop Ciao G -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/6 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com Per l'intera area della stazione non sarebbe meglio landuse=railway? E poi magari fare una relation site con dentro tutte le sue parti (dal building=train_station alle piattaforme e ai sottopassi)... penso di no, landuse=railway va messo su tutte le aree delle ferrovie (lati dei binari anche fuori la stazione ecc.), mentre railway=station è la stazione ferroviaria (dal primo al ultimo deviatore). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
2013/11/6 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com Scusate ancora, questo è il risultato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.72623/8.62857 Solo che il rendering compre completamente le piattaforme e il sottopasso. Mah... segnalalo a Andy Allan, https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/ è un problema del rendering, non dei dati. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il 06/11/2013 11:45, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com mailto:gato.selvad...@gmail.com Per l'intera area della stazione non sarebbe meglio landuse=railway? E poi magari fare una relation site con dentro tutte le sue parti (dal building=train_station alle piattaforme e ai sottopassi)... penso di no, landuse=railway va messo su tutte le aree delle ferrovie (lati dei binari anche fuori la stazione ecc.), mentre railway=station è la stazione ferroviaria (dal primo al ultimo deviatore). Allora la cosa più giusta sarebbe metterli entrambi. ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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2013/11/6 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com Allora la cosa più giusta sarebbe metterli entrambi. si, lo puoi fare. Per me railway=station implicava landuse=railway, ma non vedo problemi nel metterli entrambi, anzi, il wiki sembra di consigliarlo (verso la fine: railway stations): Use landuse https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse=*railway* to delineate areas of land owned or operated by railway companies (commonly known as the *railway corridor*). Railway land usually contains railway track, which generally consists of one or more mainhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_line_%28railway%29or branch lines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_line, and may also include more complex track configurations such as marshalling yardshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_yardfor freight and/or passenger rolling stock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_stock, locomotive depotshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motive_power_depot, railway stations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_station and sidingshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siding_%28rail%29owned by the railway company. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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2013/11/6 pjhooker lima.cityplan...@gmail.com Inizio a divertirmi ... Daniele, non so perchè non si vede ... solo quando entro si vede, eppure è pubblica. forse un semplice problema di caching / replication, mica hanno solo un server da Flickr... Aspetta un po' per verificare. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Ciao, Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 11:22, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 06 novembre 2013 10:58, Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com ha scritto: Solo per far presente che in alcuni casi il template Coord non serve dato che è possibile aggiungere le coordinate direttamente nel template sinottico.+1. @Paolo, potresti segnalarmi un caso di articolo in cui il template Coord è presente solo nel template sinottico? Così controllo se CatScan segnala come presente o meno. Potete vedere se il template coord è inserito nella pagina (anche attraverso un altro template) guardando sotto la casella di modifica. Avete la lista di tutti i template transclusi nella voce, anche in modo indiretto. Immagino che tu intenda dire che si può controllare manualmente, guardando la pagina. Il programma chiede a CatScan [0] la lista di articoli di una categoria privi del template Coord, forse questo non è in grado di segnalare la presenza indiretta del template. Sapresti suggermi un metodo alternativo? Potrei inserire anche altri template nella ricerca (es. Infobox) ma non è detto che questo includa sempre Coord. Ciao, Simone [0] http://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/catscan2.php ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 11:00, Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... questa pagina è segnata come mancante del template Coord: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camill _Benso_conte_di_Cavourhttp://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camillo_Benso_conte_di_Cavour però in realtà è un redirect a questa pagina che ha già quel template: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Cavour_(Livorno) Dato che WIWOSM non accetta redirect nei tag OSM, aggiungo: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camill _Benso_conte_di_Cavourhttp://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monumento_a_Camillo_Benso_conte_di_Cavour tra i non mappabili (e vedrò se ce ne sono altri in giro). altra cosa, vedo che l'aggiornamento della categorie è al primo ottobre, magari lo potreste fare almeno una volta al mese (vorrei vedere se certe modifiche che ho fatto dal lato wikipedia hanno l'effetto voluto) Ok, aggiornerò le categorie. Preferisco lanciare a mano questi aggiornamenti, per controllare che le categorie vengano scaricate correttamente da CatScan e non causino errori (es. categorie con loop infinito). Grazie, ciao Simone -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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Vuoi che cambi il titolo per caso? Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:37, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
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Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accativanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:55, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: il titolo del blog post mi sembra ambiguo, quello del tuo talk (come leggo nel programma) va bene. 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Vuoi che cambi il titolo per caso? Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:37, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accattivanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:58, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accativanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:55, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: il titolo del blog post mi sembra ambiguo, quello del tuo talk (come leggo nel programma) va bene. 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Vuoi che cambi il titolo per caso? Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:37, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
Lo cambio in Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:59, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accattivanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:58, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accativanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:55, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: il titolo del blog post mi sembra ambiguo, quello del tuo talk (come leggo nel programma) va bene. 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Vuoi che cambi il titolo per caso? Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:37, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
Ecco il nuovo link: http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 14:01, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Lo cambio in Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:59, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accattivanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:58, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Le notizie per attirare pubblico devono avere titoli accativanti Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:55, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.comha scritto: il titolo del blog post mi sembra ambiguo, quello del tuo talk (come leggo nel programma) va bene. 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Vuoi che cambi il titolo per caso? Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 13:37, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com : Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
Se vogiamo fare i pignoli, per i dati della mappa il coyright non c'e', non e' contemplato: In europa e' riconosciuta una protezione ad hoc, da quel che ho capito, ma e' una cosa abbastanza diversa. E la legge dello stato italiano riconosce undiritto d'autore, che ha protezioni diverse dal copyright' anglosassone... Insomma e' complicato, e sbagliare e' facie. :) Luciano 2013/11/6 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. -- Douglas Adams ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
Ecco perchè ho modificato il titolo. Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 14:18, Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com ha scritto: Non voglio alimentare polemiche! Il giorno 06 novembre 2013 14:13, Luciano Montanaro mikel...@gmail.comha scritto: Se vogiamo fare i pignoli, per i dati della mappa il coyright non c'e', non e' contemplato: In europa e' riconosciuta una protezione ad hoc, da quel che ho capito, ma e' una cosa abbastanza diversa. E la legge dello stato italiano riconosce undiritto d'autore, che ha protezioni diverse dal copyright' anglosassone... Insomma e' complicato, e sbagliare e' facie. :) Luciano 2013/11/6 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: 2013/11/6 Infoweblan di Roberto Vito Gerardo vitorobe...@gmail.com: Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 verrà presentato un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright dal titolo: “OpenStreetMap: costruiamo una mappa libera”. http://www.openstreetmapitalia.it/al-giffoni-openmakers-day-2013-un-talk-dedicato-alla-creazione-di-mappe-libere-da-copyright-grazie-al-progetto-openstreetmap/ OSM un copyright ce l'ha! E lo esercitiamo ogni giorno tramite la licenza è ODBL. Dal copyright non puoi liberarti, il copyright discende da una legge dello Stato. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. -- Douglas Adams ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il 06 novembre 2013 12:45, Simone F. grop...@gmail.com ha scritto: @Paolo, potresti segnalarmi un caso di articolo in cui il template Coord è presente solo nel template sinottico? Così controllo se CatScan segnala come presente o meno. (scusa Paolo se ti scavalco :-) ) Tutti gli articoli che usano questo template, per esempio: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Rifugio (ovvero questi qua: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:PuntanoQui/Template:Rifugio) Il programma chiede a CatScan [0] la lista di articoli di una categoria privi del template Coord, forse questo non è in grado di segnalare la presenza indiretta del template. Sapresti suggermi un metodo alternativo? Potrei inserire anche altri template nella ricerca (es. Infobox) ma non è detto che questo includa sempre Coord. La soluzione diretta, ma non particolarmente raffinata, che mi viene in mente ora è creare una lista dei template che a loro volta includono il template Coord (come il caso di Template:Rifugio di cui sopra). Cerco di capire se c'è un modo di ottenere questa lista automaticamente. Ciao, C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Regole accesso
2013/11/6 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com In pratica non comprende le moto a due ruote,motorini etc. Ma comprende scooter a tre ruote? E l'ape piaggio anche? sarei interessato anch'io alla risposto, suppongo che comprende solo veicoli a motori potenti (i.e. sopra i 50ccm), e quindi non le ape. Forse è richiesto anche una velocita massima raggiungibile (per esempio più di 50 km/h). Penso inoltre che i scooter a tre ruote dove le ruote sono poco distanti, potrebbero forse legalmente anche valere come una ruota (tipo questo per intenderci: http://media.motoblog.it/p/peu/peugeot_scooter_3_ruote.jpg ) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Al Giffoni OpenMakers Day 2013 un talk dedicato alla creazione di mappe libere da copyright grazie al progetto OpenStreetMap
2013/11/6 Luciano Montanaro mikel...@gmail.com Se vogiamo fare i pignoli, per i dati della mappa il coyright non c'e', non e' contemplato: +1, il copyright prottegge solo opere di ingenio, non protegge fatti. Serve un contratto (termini d'uso o simile) per proteggere una collezione di fatti. Però la rappresentazione dei fatti potrebbe essere considerata opera d'ingenio (oltre a temi come cosa si mostra, quando (zoom) e come (spessore, colore, iconi, ...) anche il modo di tracciare per esempio una foresta potrebbe essere protetta da copyright: fallo fare da 3 persone ed i singoli nodi sarebbe sempre a posizioni molto diversi, la rappresentazione (astrazione) di un fatto non è necessariamente un fatto. In europa e' riconosciuta una protezione ad hoc, da quel che ho capito, ma e' una cosa abbastanza diversa. si, http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direttiva_relativa_alla_tutela_giuridica_delle_banche_di_dati E la legge dello stato italiano riconosce undiritto d'autore, che ha protezioni diverse dal copyright' anglosassone... si, come in Germania (de:Urheberrecht) non è cedibile, sono cedibili soltanto i diritti d'uso, autore rimani per sempre. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alcuni articoli Wikipedia mappabili in OSM
Il 06 novembre 2013 14:24, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 06 novembre 2013 12:45, Simone F. grop...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il programma chiede a CatScan [0] la lista di articoli di una categoria privi del template Coord, forse questo non è in grado di segnalare la presenza indiretta del template. Sapresti suggermi un metodo alternativo? Potrei inserire anche altri template nella ricerca (es. Infobox) ma non è detto che questo includa sempre Coord. La soluzione diretta, ma non particolarmente raffinata, che mi viene in mente ora è creare una lista dei template che a loro volta includono il template Coord (come il caso di Template:Rifugio di cui sopra). Cerco di capire se c'è un modo di ottenere questa lista automaticamente. Mi sento un po' un pistola perché la risposta in realtà è relativamente semplice (e lo sapevo[1]). Se vai su: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:PuntanoQui/Template:Coord hai la lista di tutti le voci che transcludono *anche indirettamente* il Template:Coord (se cerchi per esempio troverai questa voce: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifugio_Laghi_Gemelli). Quella lista si può ottenere anche in formato JSON chiamando l'API di Wikipedia. Ecco un esempio di chiamata: http://it.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=embeddedineititle=Template:Coordeilimit=500format=json C'è anche questa piccola libreria python: https://github.com/SpazioDati/Wikipedia-Template-Parser con le funzioni che tirano giù tutta la lista. Questo ammesso e non concesso che ti va bene usare questo metodo (invece di usare CatScar e/o intersecando i risultati con quello che ottieni da CatScan). Ciao, Cristian [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Voci_di_Wikipedia_mappabili_in_OpenStreetMap ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Regole accesso
Non viene considerata la potenza, ma solo il numero di ruote. I motoveicoli non possono superare 2,00 m di larghezza, 4,00 m di lunghezza e 2,50 m di altezza. La massa complessiva a pieno carico di un motoveicolo non può eccedere 2,5 t. I motoveicoli possono essere attrezzati con un numero di posti, per le persone interessate al trasporto, non superiore a due, compreso quello del conducente. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Regole-accesso-tp5784165p5784328.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Dati stazioni elettriche di Terna
Ho letto sulla pagina regionale del Piemonte che avete trovato i dati delle stazioni elettriche sul sito di Terna.it sapete dirmi come le avete trovate o dove? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Dati-stazioni-elettriche-di-Terna-tp5784343.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Contattare i mapper di una regione
2013/11/6 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com Ciao a tutti, Ho appena pubblicato su github questo script per ottenere i nomi degli utenti attivi in una certa bounding box (pescati da resultmap di Pascal Neis[1]) e poi spedire una messaggio all'utente stesso. Trovate il codice qui (pubblicato nel repo comune OSM Italia): https://github.com/osmItalia/contactmap occhio però, se scrivi troppi messaggi (automatici/scriptati) ti bloccano. Se hai un annuncio importante / concordato puoi chiedere ai amministratori di farlo passare, altrimenti non passerà superato una certa soglia. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Contattare i mapper di una regione
Il 06 novembre 2013 16:02, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com Ciao a tutti, Ho appena pubblicato su github questo script per ottenere i nomi degli utenti attivi in una certa bounding box (pescati da resultmap di Pascal Neis[1]) e poi spedire una messaggio all'utente stesso. Trovate il codice qui (pubblicato nel repo comune OSM Italia): https://github.com/osmItalia/contactmap occhio però, se scrivi troppi messaggi (automatici/scriptati) ti bloccano. Se hai un annuncio importante / concordato puoi chiedere ai amministratori di farlo passare, altrimenti non passerà superato una certa soglia. Sono assolutamente d'accordo. Si sa quanto sono alte queste soglie? Il modo migliore (IMHO) per gestire queste cose è discuterne prima in lista e poi avvisare gli admin. Personalmente pensavo di usarlo per avvisare i mappatori trentini perché stiamo organizzando questo: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rovereto#Workshop ciao, C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Regole accesso
2013/11/6 bredy bredy...@yahoo.it Non viene considerata la potenza, ma solo il numero di ruote. sicuro? Se una moto avesse 3 ruote una dietro all'altra sarebbe la stessa cosa di una macchina legalmente? I limiti massimi sono chiaro, però credo che centrano anche le asse. Poi ci sono forse delle linee guida (? intendo altri testi che specificano come interpretare certi leggi). Per il numero delle asse per esempio mi riccordo che un rimorchio non deve avere più di un'asse, però se ce ne sono due a distanza di massimo un metro vale come una. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Contattare i mapper di una regione
2013/11/6 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com Si sa quanto sono alte queste soglie? no, penso che non è conosciuta ufficialmente la soglia perché altrimenti la potresti girare intorno ;-) Puoi chiedere a TomH (admin) se te lo dice... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Contattare i mapper di una regione
Il 06 novembre 2013 16:15, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2013/11/6 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com Si sa quanto sono alte queste soglie? no, penso che non è conosciuta ufficialmente la soglia perché altrimenti la potresti girare intorno ;-) Puoi chiedere a TomH (admin) se te lo dice... La vera domanda è: esiste un posto dopo posso segnalare che manderò un po' di messaggi (e perché, ecc.) in modo da non essere bloccato? Se sì, dov'è? Grazie. C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Contattare i mapper di una regione
Il 06/11/2013 16:08, Cristian Consonni ha scritto: Il 06 novembre 2013 16:02, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: occhio però, se scrivi troppi messaggi (automatici/scriptati) ti bloccano. Se hai un annuncio importante / concordato puoi chiedere ai amministratori di farlo passare, altrimenti non passerà superato una certa soglia. Sono assolutamente d'accordo. Si sa quanto sono alte queste soglie? Se non ricordo male dopo una cinquantina di messaggi circa ti impediscono per un po' di mandarne (non ricordo per quanto tempo, ma era molto breve, tipo un'oretta o meno)... Non so però se questa soglia valga anche per quelli automatici. ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
