[Talk-GB] Help wanted to update Flamingo Land

[SK53]

Just a quick bounce of a message from the forum
. A newish
contributor  wants to update
the Flamingo Land theme park in Ryedale, but would like some help and
advice.

Jerry
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Re: [Talk-GB] Help remembering how to ...

[Lester Caine]

On 29/01/18 21:22, Lester Caine wrote:

It has been a while and my notes and crib sheets seem to be messed up.

Have JOSM running with ImportImagePlugin and I have a tif file with a 28 
pixel per meter scale, and the lat and long for the top left corner, but 
I'm obviously not putting the right numbers in the world file which I 
have done in the past and fine tuned position once loaded so has 
something changed, or have I just got the wrong data. I'm fairly sure I 
also had a Linux program that helped me play with the values but having 
brain freeze at the moment ...


First problem solved ... it's PicLayer plugin ... and then I can tweak 
the config files ...


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[Talk-GB] Help remembering how to ...

[Lester Caine]

It has been a while and my notes and crib sheets seem to be messed up.

Have JOSM running with ImportImagePlugin and I have a tif file with a 28 
pixel per meter scale, and the lat and long for the top left corner, but 
I'm obviously not putting the right numbers in the world file which I 
have done in the past and fine tuned position once loaded so has 
something changed, or have I just got the wrong data. I'm fairly sure I 
also had a Linux program that helped me play with the values but having 
brain freeze at the moment ...


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Re: [Talk-GB] Help

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>> Apart from some posts  about the problems with email notifications of
>> changeset discussions, there has been nothing to indicate where I take
>> this import. I guess that's because the initative is really down to me.
>>
>> I've annotated Harry's Import wiki page
>> 
>> with some comments and ideas. I've copied below what I think are the
>> relevant bits from the wiki page and I look forward to resolving the
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> osm-gb 
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> Yes.
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> For info, stations are regarded as “national” and so have their own 910
> prefix. So 9100LHONSEA is Leigh-on-sea (OK, it’s not in London but that’s
> the one I know). The alpha code on the end is a match to the rail industry
> TIPLOC codes, which throws up some oddities (such as London Victoria and
> London Bridge having two TIPLOCs each, and Clapham Junction having four).
>
> Metro stations are also regarded as national, and so have 940 prefixes. In
> the cases I mentioned before, 9400ZZLUBNK is Bank, and 9400ZZLUTWH is Tower
> Hill. In both rail and metro cases, these codes represent the entire
> station.
>
> Then, each rail station or metro station has one or more entrances. These,
> for historical reasons, are always defined locally and have local codes. So
> they have the local prefix (490 for London) instead of the national prefix,
> but use the same identifier for the station. There is then a numbered suffix
> to distinguish between different entrances, although Bank has so many that
> it needs alpha as well.
>
> So:
>
>  *   4900ZZLUBNK7 is Bank Station, Entrance 9, on the corner of Threadneedle
> Street (there isn’t necessarily any direct correlation between the suffix
> and the entrance number)
>  *   4900ZZLUOXC7 is Oxford Circus, Entrance 7, on Argyll Street
>  *   etc
>
> The final oddity is that there is a hierarchy. So rail stations can contain
> metro stations, but not the other way around. But each different entity is
> expected to have its own entrances. So at Blackfriars, for example, the rail
> station has two entrances, north and south, and the nominal “entrance” to
> the underground is actually set on the gateline inside the station building.
>
> So there are some things to be aware of, but positionally the entrances are
> all in the right places (more or less) and you can get a “big bang” from the
> NaPTAN data even if you later on wish to refine the entrances by survey.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart Reynolds
> for traveline south east & anglia
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2017, at 07:14, Andrew Hain
> > wrote:
>
> Does it include stations belonging to Network Rail?

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On 4/27/2017 12:26 PM, Brian Prangle wrote:

Apart from some posts  about the problems with email notifications of
changeset discussions, there has been nothing to indicate where I take
this import. I guess that's because the initative is really down to me.

I've annotated Harry's Import wiki page

with some comments and ideas. I've copied below what I think are the
relevant bits from the wiki page and I look forward to resolving the
issues as I'm keen to complete the import.


Don't forget the need to consult with imports@ as part of the
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Yes.

For info, stations are regarded as “national” and so have their own 910 
prefix. So 9100LHONSEA is Leigh-on-sea (OK, it’s not in London but that’s 
the one I know). The alpha code on the end is a match to the rail industry 
TIPLOC codes, which throws up some oddities (such as London Victoria and 
London Bridge having two TIPLOCs each, and Clapham Junction having four).


Metro stations are also regarded as national, and so have 940 prefixes. In 
the cases I mentioned before, 9400ZZLUBNK is Bank, and 9400ZZLUTWH is Tower 
Hill. In both rail and metro cases, these codes represent the entire 
station.


Then, each rail station or metro station has one or more entrances. These, 
for historical reasons, are always defined locally and have local codes. So 
they have the local prefix (490 for London) instead of the national prefix, 
but use the same identifier for the station. There is then a numbered suffix 
to distinguish between different entrances, although Bank has so many that 
it needs alpha as well.


So:

 *   4900ZZLUBNK7 is Bank Station, Entrance 9, on the corner of 
Threadneedle Street (there isn’t necessarily any direct correlation between 
the suffix and the entrance number)

 *   4900ZZLUOXC7 is Oxford Circus, Entrance 7, on Argyll Street
 *   etc

The final oddity is that there is a hierarchy. So rail stations can contain 
metro stations, but not the other way around. But each different entity is 
expected to have its own entrances. So at Blackfriars, for example, the rail 
station has two entrances, north and south, and the nominal “entrance” to 
the underground is actually set on the gateline inside the station building.


So there are some things to be aware of, but positionally the entrances are 
all in the right places (more or less) and you can get a “big bang” from the 
NaPTAN data even if you later on wish to refine the entrances by survey.


Regards,
Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east & anglia



On 9 May 2017, at 07:14, Andrew Hain 
> wrote:


Does it include stations belonging to Network Rail?

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[Talk-GB] Help with postgres

[Lester Caine]

I've been working through all the disjointed installation guides in order to set 
up mapnik to run my own server, but while I'm fairly happy that everything is 
now in place, generate_tiles.py is giving me an authentication error. I had some 
fun at various points, and I'm installing onto an SUSE12.3 server which is 
running text only, so I'm using ssh access to give me the command line, which 
may be part of my problem since I'm logged in as 'root'.


I seem to have a 'gis' database fully populated, and I can access it via the 
user 'root', but not via the user 'gisuser' which is what I thought should be 
used, and which has worked in all the previous steps running osm2pgsql.


Can anybody kick me in the right direction to fix this? I've got osrm routing 
running on the machine so something has set up properly.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with postgres

[Keith Sharp]

When I did this, many years ago, I used something like:

createuser -S -D -R apache
echo GRANT ALL ON SCHEMA PUBLIC TO apache; | psql gis
echo grant all on geometry_columns to apache; | psql gis
echo grant all on spatial_ref_sys to apache; | psql gis

I'm using apache as the user ID here as that's what Mapnik was running as.

This is taken from: http://www.passback.org.uk/maps/fedora.shtml.

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On 10 Jul 2013, at 08:43, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

 I've been working through all the disjointed installation guides in order to 
 set up mapnik to run my own server, but while I'm fairly happy that 
 everything is now in place, generate_tiles.py is giving me an authentication 
 error. I had some fun at various points, and I'm installing onto an SUSE12.3 
 server which is running text only, so I'm using ssh access to give me the 
 command line, which may be part of my problem since I'm logged in as 'root'.
 
 I seem to have a 'gis' database fully populated, and I can access it via the 
 user 'root', but not via the user 'gisuser' which is what I thought should be 
 used, and which has worked in all the previous steps running osm2pgsql.
 
 Can anybody kick me in the right direction to fix this? I've got osrm routing 
 running on the machine so something has set up properly.
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with postgres

[Lester Caine]

Keith Sharp wrote:

When I did this, many years ago, I used something like:

createuser -S -D -R apache
echo GRANT ALL ON SCHEMA PUBLIC TO apache; | psql gis
echo grant all on geometry_columns to apache; | psql gis
echo grant all on spatial_ref_sys to apache; | psql gis

I'm using apache as the user ID here as that's what Mapnik was running as.

This is taken from: http://www.passback.org.uk/maps/fedora.shtml.


Not helping :(
I used http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PostGIS/Installation#openSUSE_11.2 to 
set up, and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Authentication_failure 
kicked in, but 'psql gis' gets me in and I can play with the data, just 
generate_tiles.py is giving the

FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user root error


On 10 Jul 2013, at 08:43, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:


I've been working through all the disjointed installation guides in order to 
set up mapnik to run my own server, but while I'm fairly happy that everything 
is now in place, generate_tiles.py is giving me an authentication error. I had 
some fun at various points, and I'm installing onto an SUSE12.3 server which is 
running text only, so I'm using ssh access to give me the command line, which 
may be part of my problem since I'm logged in as 'root'.

I seem to have a 'gis' database fully populated, and I can access it via the 
user 'root', but not via the user 'gisuser' which is what I thought should be 
used, and which has worked in all the previous steps running osm2pgsql.

Can anybody kick me in the right direction to fix this? I've got osrm routing 
running on the machine so something has set up properly.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with postgres

[Lester Caine]

Lester Caine wrote:

Not helping :(

Panic over!
Just needed to re-read the
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Authentication_failure note ...
I'd missed that the xml file was generated without a -user setting ;)

Up to level 9 already ...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with postgres

[Lester Caine]

Tom Hughes wrote:

On 10/07/13 09:24, Lester Caine wrote:


Not helping :(
I used
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PostGIS/Installation#openSUSE_11.2 to
set up, and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Authentication_failure kicked
in, but 'psql gis' gets me in and I can play with the data, just
generate_tiles.py is giving the
FATAL:  Ident authentication failed for user root error


Well why are you running renderd as root! You really, really don't want to be
doing that...


Habit ...
I'm remote onto the machine via ssh as root because I was configuring the server 
and that is the way I've done things for many years ... May not be politically 
correct these days, but I can set up the various accounts quickly and I've not 
got used to having to 'sudo' every command :)


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[Talk-GB] help with rights of way and core paths in Scotland

[Barry Cornelius]

I think I understand what councils have to do for public rights of way in 
England and Wales.  However, I don't understand the situation concerning 
rights of way in Scotland.  I would like some help, please.


What kinds of paths are there in Scotland?
I've seen mention of both rights of way and core paths.
What's the difference?
Who are the authorities that have legal obligations?
What legal obligations do they have?
Do they have to maintain a definitive map?

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Re: [Talk-GB] help with rights of way and core paths in Scotland

[Steven Horner]

According to the government site below in Scotland the local authorities
don't have to signpost or record the Rights of Way:
https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open-access-land/public-rights-of-way

The paths are recorded and signposted by the charity Scotways where there
appears to be plenty of information:
http://www.scotways.com/

regards,
Steven


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Barry Cornelius 
barrycorneliu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think I understand what councils have to do for public rights of way in
 England and Wales.  However, I don't understand the situation concerning
 rights of way in Scotland.  I would like some help, please.

 What kinds of paths are there in Scotland?
 I've seen mention of both rights of way and core paths.
 What's the difference?
 Who are the authorities that have legal obligations?
 What legal obligations do they have?
 Do they have to maintain a definitive map?

 --
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 http://www.thehs2.com/
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Re: [Talk-GB] help with rights of way and core paths in Scotland

[Craig Wallace]

On 2013-03-11 10:12, Barry Cornelius wrote:

I think I understand what councils have to do for public rights of way in
England and Wales.  However, I don't understand the situation concerning
rights of way in Scotland.  I would like some help, please.

What kinds of paths are there in Scotland?
I've seen mention of both rights of way and core paths.
What's the difference?
Who are the authorities that have legal obligations?
What legal obligations do they have?
Do they have to maintain a definitive map?


Core paths were created by the Land Reform Act 2003.
All of the local authorities and national park authorities are required 
to produce a core path plan, which should include the main routes for 
walking, cycling, horseriding, canoeing etc. So the core paths may 
include paths, as well as tracks, driveways, public roads, and rivers.


It seems most of the authorities have now produced a core path plan, 
though some of them are still consulting on it.
I'm not sure if its actually a legal requirement, but the guidance says 
that the authorities should promote the core paths. So this means they 
will usually be signposted in some way. I'm not sure which areas have 
actually done this.


Craig

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Andy Allan]

On 15 January 2012 19:27, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:

 If you reposition the new node in same place as the old one, this hasn't 
 really
 achieved anything.  At best, it has obscured the history a bit so it's no 
 longer
 quite so clear that the node was originally added by a CT-decliner.

It rarely ends up in exactly the same place - when I'm doing these
node replacements I take time to remodel junctions, improve curves and
so on. The contribution is my own, not an obfuscation of history. The
O keypress is just a little labour saving, not a charade.

 Rather than going through this charade why not just add odbl=clean to the 
 node?

Because that would be incorrect. The odbl=clean is not a I somehow
assert that I would do the same, therefore ignore the IPR record. The
tag is to indicate where their contribution have washed out and
where the contributor(s) in question cannot reasonably claim any
rights to the current feature[1] - i.e. subsequent edits have
entirely overwritten any IPR in the non-acceptor's contributions. It's
easy to see that the tag is therefore completely inappropriate for
adding to any v1 objects, for a start.

Of course, since the odbl=clean tag is so widely misinterpreted, by
you and seemingly by many others, the tag becomes as meaningless as
foot=yes[2] . It wouldn't actually make any difference during a
changeover anyway - that's the whole point of the tag, after all, to
indicate that even if you removed every conceivable trace of
non-accepting edits from this feature, then end result would be the
same - so there seems little point in adding it. So it's a bizarre tag
- when misunderstood it's applied incorrectly, and when understood
fully it barely makes sense to use it anyway.

Cheers,
Andy

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:odbl%3Dclean
[2] Originally meaning this is a legally declared 'Public Footpath',
it was ambiguously confused with a general legal right of walking
(e.g. on a bridleway). Automatic inclusion on all footpaths of any
type by potlatch1 for a number of years, it became effectively
meaningless as a designator for Public Footpaths, and a new tag
(designation=public_footpath) was eventually created.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Richard Fairhurst]

Andy Allan wrote:
 [2] Originally meaning this is a legally declared 'Public 
 Footpath', it was ambiguously confused with a general 
 legal right of walking (e.g. on a bridleway). Automatic 
 inclusion on all footpaths of any type by potlatch1 for 
 a number of years

[Brief historical footnote: P1 only ever included it on its public
footpath and bridleway presets (and note that the former was indeed
public footpath rather than footpath or footway or anything). I think
the original intention was that other people might contribute tag presets
for their own countries' path systems, but this was all about six years ago
when I was still young and green enough to think that people might ever
contribute tag presets. I'm not sure I ever thought that foot=yes meant
this is a legally declared public footpath, I've always understood it to
have the second meaning (public right of way for people on foot).]

As you were...

cheers
Richard



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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Andy Allan]

On 14 January 2012 15:35, Eike Ritter osm...@rittere.co.uk wrote:
 I'm trying to do some remapping, and would be grateful for some help in
 situations I've encountered.

 1.) Assume you need to replace a node which is in the intersection of
 several ways. If I simply delete the node and re-create it, I'd have to
 adjust all the ways the node is part of. This is slow and error-prone.
 Is there an easier way of achieving this replacement?

Using Potlatch 2, select the junction node and press O. This deletes
the node and attaches a new node to the cursor - you need to click to
position it. Doing it this way sorts out all the ways for you.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Ed Avis]

Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes:

1.) Assume you need to replace a node which is in the intersection of
several ways.

Using Potlatch 2, select the junction node and press O. This deletes
the node and attaches a new node to the cursor - you need to click to
position it.

If you reposition the new node in same place as the old one, this hasn't really
achieved anything.  At best, it has obscured the history a bit so it's no longer
quite so clear that the node was originally added by a CT-decliner.

Rather than going through this charade why not just add odbl=clean to the node?

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[Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Eike Ritter]

I'm trying to do some remapping, and would be grateful for some help in
situations I've encountered.

1.) Assume you need to replace a node which is in the intersection of
several ways. If I simply delete the node and re-create it, I'd have to
adjust all the ways the node is part of. This is slow and error-prone.
Is there an easier way of achieving this replacement?

2.) Quite often the changes by a non-accepter are trivial (eg additional
tag created by JOSM is the only difference. What's the best way of
dealing with this? So far, I've left those nodes alone, but they will
still show in the OSM-inspector despite being really OK. Is there any
way to delete this tag other than re-creating this node which marks it
as clean in the OSM-inspector?

Eike (tamritt)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Derick Rethans]

On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Eike Ritter wrote:

 1.) Assume you need to replace a node which is in the intersection of
 several ways. If I simply delete the node and re-create it, I'd have to
 adjust all the ways the node is part of. This is slow and error-prone.
 Is there an easier way of achieving this replacement?

I don't think so :-/

 2.) Quite often the changes by a non-accepter are trivial (eg additional
 tag created by JOSM is the only difference. What's the best way of
 dealing with this? So far, I've left those nodes alone, but they will
 still show in the OSM-inspector despite being really OK. Is there any
 way to delete this tag other than re-creating this node which marks it
 as clean in the OSM-inspector?

I'd mark them as odbl=clean (or whatever that tag was).

cheers,
Derick

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with remapping

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 01/14/2012 04:35 PM, Eike Ritter wrote:

2.) Quite often the changes by a non-accepter are trivial (eg additional
tag created by JOSM is the only difference. What's the best way of
dealing with this? So far, I've left those nodes alone, but they will
still show in the OSM-inspector despite being really OK. Is there any
way to delete this tag other than re-creating this node which marks it
as clean in the OSM-inspector?


OSMI makes an effort to highlight as problematic only those nodes where 
the removal of decliner content will make a meaningful difference. It 
should treat the created_by tag as harmless, i.e. these objects should 
just appear in yellow which is not cause for concern.


In fact I wonder if I should ditch the harmless layer altogehter and 
have nothing that is coloured yellow, it seems to confuse people more 
than necessary. The idea behind the yellow harmless thing was to 
signal to the mapper this object has been touched by a decliner but is 
still considered ok, you don't have to remap it. I did that hoping that 
people would occasionally check if OSMI does the right thing ;) but 
maybe the time of the yellow stuff is over.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help: Conflict not resolving in Potlatch 2

[Andy Allan]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Graham Stewart gra...@dalmuti.net wrote:

 Please excuse the slight off-topic, but I've spent the morning doing
 some Bing/OS_OpenData armchair mapping around Amble in Alnwick and
 Potlatch is refusing to save my changes.

 I get a message saying:

  An item you edited has been changed by another mapper.
   Download their version and try again?
   (The server said: Version mismatch: Provided 1420, server had: 1421
   of Relation 9579)

 If I say Yes then I just get the same message again (and again and
 again...) until it eventually it gives up and says HTTP error.

 Does anyone have a way out of this scenario or my work lost?
 I'd be happy to lose just my changes to members of that relation but
 keep everything else.

 I've tried pressing 'C' to close the changeset and starting a new one.
 (I've also noticed that if you confirm that dialog with the return key,
 rather than space, then it seems to report a new changeset ID anyway).

From what I can see in the potlatch2 code, there appears to be a bug
in the code that downloads relations for conflict handling.

The only thing I can suggest is to press undo until you get back
before the edit which changed the relation (national cycle route 1, in
this case). If it was towards the end of your session you might be
able to save some work. If anyone knows of any other tricks to get
around this I'd love to hear them!

Meanwhile I've written a fix for the potlatch2 code[1]. Thanks for
your detailed explanation of what you were doing, it's made it very
easy to follow through the code and figure out what's going on.

Cheers,
Andy

[1] 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/Potlatch2/commit/47a7aeb5c6d30b295cb92a09233118a2fe60fee5

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[Talk-GB] Help persuade NavMii to update their UK+ROI map more often

[Graham Stewart]

For those that don't know, navmii make a car sat-nav app for the iPhone
called Navfree GPS UK  ROI
This app is free, is built on OSM data, and is typically the #1 app in
the Navigation-Free category in the App Store (ahead of skobbler which
is currently #3)

This is a pretty good advocate for OpenStreetMap, putting it in the
hands of people that may not have been aware of us before.

But unfortunately navmii only update their map whenever they release a
new version of the app.
Their current map dates from Feb 2011 and (according to the ITO
coverage) we've added around 40,000 new road details since then!

This has the knock on effect that NavFree users will use their Map
Feedback tool to report errors that we've already fixed. If these are
recorded as Map Dust then that increases the number of false reports we
have to look at.

I've posted a suggestion on their User Voice forum that they should
update the map more frequently (I suggested once a month).
If you think this is something they should do, please go to:

http://navmii.uservoice.com/forums/76347-navmii-/suggestions/1813197-please-update-the-navfree-maps-more-frequently

and vote for that suggestion.

Thanks all,
Graham

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[Talk-GB] Help Needed

[Roy Jamison]

Just a quick couple of questions really.

I have created buildings and residential areas, i.e. marked out where
the houses are along a street according to OS data and memory, but it
doesn't appear in Mapnik or Osmarender. Could this be because there
has been an entire residential area added from Landsat? Also, if this
is the case is it safe to remove the landsat area and mark the
buildings out more accurately. What will this do to the state of the
map in that particular area, i.e. will it still look Ok?

Sorry again for so many questions at once thought I'd better ask them
in one message :)

Thanks guys!

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help Needed

[Shaun McDonald]

Hi Roy,

Do you have a link to the map area so that someone can look at the data to see 
what the problem is?

You should be able to have landuse and buildings without a problem.

Have you looked at the tags that are used for the buildings in central london, 
for a comparison?

Shaun

On 2 May 2010, at 09:56, Roy Jamison wrote:

 Just a quick couple of questions really.
 
 I have created buildings and residential areas, i.e. marked out where
 the houses are along a street according to OS data and memory, but it
 doesn't appear in Mapnik or Osmarender. Could this be because there
 has been an entire residential area added from Landsat? Also, if this
 is the case is it safe to remove the landsat area and mark the
 buildings out more accurately. What will this do to the state of the
 map in that particular area, i.e. will it still look Ok?
 
 Sorry again for so many questions at once thought I'd better ask them
 in one message :)
 
 Thanks guys!
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Help Needed

[Roy Jamison]

I have looked but quickly got confused by the sheer amount of data
there. 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.43633lon=0.75688zoom=17layers=B000FTF
is the link to the section of Thames Avenue where I placed the
buildings.

Thanks again for the help :)

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[Talk-GB] Help Needed

[Seventy 7]

The buildings have been tagged as both building=yes and landuse=residential and 
I think this will be confusing the renderer - landuse is used for areas and the 
buildings (and everything else) sit on top.

So tag the general area as landuse=residential (a few ways to do this) and just 
tag the houses as building=yes.

HTH

Steve




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 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Help Needed
 
 I have looked but quickly got confused by the sheer amount of data
 there.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.43633lon=0.75688zoom=17layers=B000FT
 F
 is the link to the section of Thames Avenue where I placed the
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 Thanks again for the help :)
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Help Needed

[Roy Jamison]

Thanks guys, I didn't realise that landuse was just for large areas. I
will definitely try the building:use tag on these as I want to show
they're just houses not anything else.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with Dissertation on Open Street Map

[Andy Robinson (blackadder)]

Angela,

Welcome :-)

My suggestion would be to join one of the mapping party events running
around the UK. Several are already planned and there will be another half
dozen announced shortly running throughout the year in different locations.
You can find links/details of these in the calendar on the front page of the
wiki.

Cheers

Andy

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Hi,

My name is Angela and I will be working on the OpenStreetMap for my Masters
Dissertation to research the Usability of the site - ie how usable is it
and ways it can be improved but in order to do this, I will require your
help, I will like to meet up with users of the site if possible to help
introduce me to how to use the map (although i have had an initial play
around) and how the outside user will interact with the site.

Your help will be greatly appreciated. If you like to contact me, here is
my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,


Angela Egbunu




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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with Dissertation on Open Street Map

[Nick Black]

Hi Angela,

Welcome to OSM.  Which university are you attached to?

Cheers,


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  Welcome :-)

  My suggestion would be to join one of the mapping party events running
  around the UK. Several are already planned and there will be another half
  dozen announced shortly running throughout the year in different locations.
  You can find links/details of these in the calendar on the front page of the
  wiki.

  Cheers

  Andy



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  My name is Angela and I will be working on the OpenStreetMap for my Masters
  Dissertation to research the Usability of the site - ie how usable is it
  and ways it can be improved but in order to do this, I will require your
  help, I will like to meet up with users of the site if possible to help
  introduce me to how to use the map (although i have had an initial play
  around) and how the outside user will interact with the site.
  
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  Thanks,
  
  
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[Talk-GB] Help with Dissertation on Open Street Map

[Angela .E.]

Hi,

My name is Angela and I will be working on the OpenStreetMap for my Masters 
Dissertation to research the Usability of the site - ie how usable is it and 
ways it can be improved but in order to do this, I will require your help, I 
will like to meet up with users of the site if possible to help introduce me to 
how to use the map (although i have had an initial play around) and how the 
outside user will interact with the site.

Your help will be greatly appreciated. If you like to contact me, here is my 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
 
Angela Egbunu





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[Talk-GB] Help develop green mapping in London - job opportunity

[Tom Chance]

Hello,

Was sent this by an ex-colleague, might interested people on this list...

London 21 Sustainability Network is a unique environmental charity
supporting community-based action for sustainability throughout London. We
are looking for an officer to help develop and deliver an exciting new
project mapping environmental change and development in London. This role
will combine both community development and participatory mapping skills,
using a public mapping system to monitor local sustainability and local
development plans. Responsibilities will include project management,
working directly with selected communities, communicating with relevant
stakeholders and coordinating participatory mapping activities. A more
detailed summary of the project will be sent to short-listed candidates.

To download a job description please visit our website:
http://www.london21.org/page/86

To apply please send a short cover letter addressing the personal
specification in the job description and a current CV to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

For more information please visit our website
http://www.london21.org/page/79/project/show/mcsc, or call 0208 9684602. 

Closing date for applications is 5.00pm Friday 26th October.

Kind regards,
Tom


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