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Re: [talk-ph] Announcing Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction Project

2013-06-17 Per discussione maning sambale

Dear everyone,

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 * We want to arrange a meeting with the community to discuss details
 of the project.
   Possibly by end of this month.  What would be the best day and time
 for you guys?
Following this up, would you be available either  June 28 (Friday) or
29 (Saturday) afternoon or early evening?
The venue will be our office.

Please confirm if this is OK with you all.  Thanks!

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Re: [talk-ph] Announcing Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction Project

2013-06-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar

Not that you really need my presence but the 29th is a full day for me.
July 6?


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:17 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear everyone,

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  * We want to arrange a meeting with the community to discuss details
  of the project.
Possibly by end of this month.  What would be the best day and time
  for you guys?
 Following this up, would you be available either  June 28 (Friday) or
 29 (Saturday) afternoon or early evening?
 The venue will be our office.

 Please confirm if this is OK with you all.  Thanks!

 --
 cheers,
 maning
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 blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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Re: [talk-ph] Announcing Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction Project

2013-06-17 Per discussione Carlo Antonio Romero

Hi Maning,

Ill be happy to participate if there's anything a remote mapper can
contribute.

Carlo.


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear everyone,

 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  * We want to arrange a meeting with the community to discuss details
  of the project.
Possibly by end of this month.  What would be the best day and time
  for you guys?
 Following this up, would you be available either  June 28 (Friday) or
 29 (Saturday) afternoon or early evening?
 The venue will be our office.

 Please confirm if this is OK with you all.  Thanks!

 --
 cheers,
 maning
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 wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
 blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL

2013-06-17 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen

Robert Whittaker (OSM lists robert.whittaker+osm@... writes:


 
 I'd still very much like to hear of potential use cases, where
 regarding the inputted search data plus returned coordinates as a
 derivative database (which may be part of a collective database with
 other proprietary data in it) would actually cause problems.

I feel that this requirement prevents state and municipality agencies in
Finland from using OSM maps as base maps in their web applications. There
are often some feedback mechanism in the applications so that users can send
a message about data error or then they announce that something in broken or
something has happened in some location. Usually user does not know the
coordinates but only the address or that something happened in the corner of
A- Street and B-Street. Uncertainty about if all the administrative data
which have some connection with the user feedback would become share-alike
if user locates the place by clicking on top of the OSM base map makes
administration to use Google and other other base map providers instead.


-Jukka Rahkonen-




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[OSM-legal-talk] Clarifying Geocoding and ODbL

2013-06-17 Per discussione Olov McKie


Martin Koppenhoefer Fri Jun 14 10:44:58 UTC 2013
You are comparing apples to pears, as the mappers in the license change had
their contributions licensed cc-by-sa, while now we are in ODbL with
different terms and obligations, so you can't really deduct anything from
the former situation to where we are now in terms of licensing or rights
affected.

I said:
The set of rules that the redaction bot followed, to enable the license 
change, is by
the bots work now coded into the history of our database in such a way that 
changing
these rules would force us to revert the entire license change. I would 
suspect that
if a license dispute about OSM ever end up in court, we will not be able to 
argue for
more copyright protection than what we gave to those contributors who did not 
want the
license to change. I would also like to argue that, when a question comes in 
if a user
can or can not do something without breaching our copyright, we should always 
start
the discussion by looking for similar examples in our own change to the ODbL. 

I will try to clarify what I said earlier, as I think you might have 
misunderstood what I tried to say:

Whether the decliners had their contributions licensed under cc-by-sa or a 
fully proprietary license is irrelevant. This is not a question about different 
licensing terms, but rather if the license even applies at all. I believe that 
our license change, through the bots work, has set some very strict boundaries 
for how far we now can argue that our copyright reaches. Therefore I think that 
we should always start any licensing discussion with looking at our license 
change, to see if we can argue that we have any copyright in the given 
situation. Only after this step has been completed should we look to the ODbL 
and what it says about the question at hand.


/Olov




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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9

2013-06-17 Per discussione Li Xia

Hi Brett, I'm Li, founder and developer of Mud Map 2.

You bring up great points. We have a small development team, the app was
released 6 weeks ago and it's just the start. Heaps of feature upgrades are
planned. Upload your tracks as a GPX trace to OSM from the app is one of
them.

Are you able to send me the link to that track? I'll have a look at it's
compatibility with Garmin basecampe.

Mountain peaks are available as a POI, you can turn them on by going to
Options MapKey POIs.

We don't include all OSM attributes in the offline vector data yet, but
plan to include more features. Which attributes are you keen to see
included?

As for battery life, did you have the phone's screen on the entire 2 hours?
Screens kill battery life. Mud Map 2 has background tracking, so you can
put your device to sleep and it will keep recording your location. We've
logged 6-7 hours using an iPhone 4S.

I do pay attention to this mailing list, however you are always welcome to
contact us with any feedback on supp...@mud-maps.com for topics directly
related to our products.

Li.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:56:39 +1030
From: Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au
To: OSM Australia mailing list talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-au] MudMap 2 report back
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I have been playing with MudMap 2 and frankly the important feature for a
OSM mapper, the ability to upload GPX files, is terrible. MudMap are mad
keen that you use their server. First the send, sends the GPX file to
their server with a default public setting. Then you have to go to their
server to send it, say to yourself, which then after typing in an email
address it send you an email that again requires you to again visit their
server to download a GPX format that is downloaded as a GPX.XLM format so
not recognised by Garmin's Bsecamp!! In all the most idiotic process
that could be dreamed up. Net result is I have not even the ability to
comment on the tracking ability of my plot except to say that it almost
flattened my iPhone 4S in two and bit hours.

The critical for bushwalkers features such as lakes and mountains do not
appear. Sure the application is still in development so I can forgive this
but the terrible ability to extract a GPX file suggests a form of thinking
that I can not abide, that being forcing users to their site. Are we to
see fees being charged for this service down the track?

Not recommended.

Cheers

Brett Russell
PO Box 94
LAUNCESTON Tas 7250

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