Re: Sending confirmation
On Friday, November 19, 2004 @ 9:51:31 PM [-0700], Michael L. Wilson wrote: TB BETA ERS, I needed to reinstall The Bat. Now, every time I click send after writing my response in a rely email, I am asked to confirm sending. I would like to turn this off. Highlight account Account-Properties-Options Uncheck Confirm Immediate Sending -- Matt Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Sending confirmation
sábado, 20 nov 2004 at 08:25, it seems you wrote:
I checked and none were checked. Other ideas accepted.
Try to check. Save. Uncheck.
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Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters
Hello Maurice, snipped quite a bit This leads me to two wishes: 1) Filters should 'collect' all actions-to-be-taken and perform only the last move on multiple moves. As I think Boris has mentioned, that would probably be difficult to achieve with current NFS implementation. Anyway, I think I would oppose to such a wish because it would reduce the possibilities of what you can do with filters right now. 2) It should be possible to create a purely organizational container level (sub)filter where processing of filters further down the list occurs automatically if none of the subfilters yielded an action. If I have understood correctly what you want to do I would also oppose to this wish because I think there are ways of doing what you want. They way that things are now that processing of a filter depends _only_ on the previous filters triggering or not and on the continue processing status of previous filters is the correct way of doing things. Making the processing of a filter depend on the triggering or not of filters in a lower hierarchy would break the whole purpose of the hierarchy structure. Now, I said I think you can achieve what you want without any changes to the way things are now. Boris has already pointed the use of parameters but, apparently, there is some bug in the use of parameters. I don't know, I have not tested. But maybe it is also that Boris has suggested the use of parameters in a slightly different way that I would do it. What I would do is: Filter A (set to continue processing) Sub-Filter A1 (whatever action + set parameter P) Sub-Filter A2 (whatever action + set parameter P) Filter B (whatever condition + parameter P NOT set) Sub-Filter B1 Sub-Filter B2 I there is a bug in the use of parameters, then a I would use a colour group instead. I have not tested but it should work. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
Hello Avi, When I receive a message and use the SpecialsAdd Sender to Address Book option, I fill in the information and click OK. Then TB comes back to me with the question: Add the rest to the same address book/group(s)? What is this question about? If I reply Yes, then that is the end of the operation, but I don't know what I just agreed to. If I reply No, then the Edit Address Entry dialog reopens, like before, only this time when I click OK, the operation completes. I believe this is due to the fact that, at least for this operation, TB does bot consider sender to be just the address in From: field. It looks like it also check for the presence the Reply-To: field (and maybe more)and if any of these fields includes a different address than the one in From:, it will ask you if you want to also include the _rest_ of addresses. As an example, just take the messages in this list. Yours, the one I'm replying to, includes your address in the From: field but the Reply-To: is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Bayesit 0.7.5
Hello, tbbeta. Version 0.7.5 (.lxt fixup) http://www.ritlabs.com/download/bayesit/bayesit075.rar - accidental corruption of .lst files. The error fixed, and auto-repairing of the files possible damaged in the past entered. Running lstrepair with this version is not necessary. -- Sincerely, Alexey. Using TB 3.0.2.3 Rush on WinXP Pro SP2 (2600), spelling by ORFO2002 (CSAPI) ..with Kaspersky Antivirus Plugin (ver 3.5 Gold) antispam filter BayesIt! 0.7.5 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters
Hello MAU, Mau wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): 2) It should be possible to create a purely organizational container level (sub)filter where processing of filters further down the list occurs automatically if none of the subfilters yielded an action. If I have understood correctly what you want to do I would also oppose to this wish because I think there are ways of doing what you want. Yes, there are ways of doing so - but how comfortable and difficult are they? In generals there seems two ways of doing this: With params (color groups, ...) or with spezial condition in container filter. Second solution is not good, because you have make changes twice (in subfilter and container filter) and first solution is better but difficult (I think that not everybody realize that container filter could be done with this solution). So this wish wouldn't reduce the possibilities of NFS, but make them more comfortable. In fact of this, I would say implement it if it's less work, implement it later if its much work. Maybe one word about implementation: I think it could be done in two different ways: 1) A option in sub-filter: [X] Stop continue processing with other filter 2) Make it possible, to add container filter which has the condition (by design) one of the subfilter-condition matches. This condition maybe shown in conditions (Subfilter(s) matches) - and must be auto-updated. I don't know what is easier to implement, but 1) seems to be more powerfull? Boris has already pointed the use of parameters I might ask you if you had the same idea independent of me? there is some bug in the use of parameters. I don't know, I have not tested. :-( - it wouldn't take much time: Import my posted filter, check if it's correct (did I make a mistake?), select a message and test filter. A short notice (maybe in bugtracker) would be nice. What I would do is: Filter A (set to continue processing) Sub-Filter A1 (whatever action + set parameter P) Sub-Filter A2 (whatever action + set parameter P) Filter B (whatever condition + parameter P NOT set) Sub-Filter B1 Sub-Filter B2 Hm, interessting. In this way you save one filter (A3), right? But on the other side, you have to add one action per subfilter. Did I miss something? I there is a bug in the use of parameters, then a I would use a colour group instead. I have not tested but it should work. Wow, good idea. Why didn't I have it? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters
Hello Boris, 2) It should be possible to create a purely organizational container level (sub)filter where processing of filters further down the list occurs automatically if none of the subfilters yielded an action. If I have understood correctly what you want to do I would also oppose to this wish because I think there are ways of doing what you want. Yes, there are ways of doing so - but how comfortable and difficult are they? In generals there seems two ways of doing this: With params (color groups, ...) or with spezial condition in container filter. Second solution is not good, because you have make changes twice (in subfilter and container filter) and first solution is better but difficult (I think that not everybody realize that container filter could be done with this solution). So this wish wouldn't reduce the possibilities of NFS, but make them more comfortable. In fact of this, I would say implement it if it's less work, implement it later if its much work. Maybe one word about implementation: I think it could be done in two different ways: 1) A option in sub-filter: [X] Stop continue processing with other filter 2) Make it possible, to add container filter which has the condition (by design) one of the subfilter-condition matches. This condition maybe shown in conditions (Subfilter(s) matches) - and must be auto-updated. I don't know what is easier to implement, but 1) seems to be more powerfull? If I understand you correctly I would still oppose to this wish. It apparently makes things easier but I think it make following the logic of filters more complex and it doesn't introduce any real benefit (i.e. something that can't be done now). Boris has already pointed the use of parameters I might ask you if you had the same idea independent of me? Yes, because that is exactly one of the reasons parameters for filters were introduced. there is some bug in the use of parameters. I don't know, I have not tested. :-( - it wouldn't take much time: Import my posted filter, check if it's correct (did I make a mistake?), select a message and test filter. A short notice (maybe in bugtracker) would be nice. What I meant is that I have not tested enough the use of parameters in general to see if there are any possible bugs. Hm, interessting. In this way you save one filter (A3), right? But on the other side, you have to add one action per subfilter. Did I miss something? No, you didn't miss anything. I there is a bug in the use of parameters, then a I would use a colour group instead. I have not tested but it should work. Wow, good idea. Why didn't I have it? Don't ask me ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost all mail on Exchange account
Peter, On 19-11-2004 16:58, you [PG] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it really gone from the Exchange mailbox? Have you looked at it with Outlook? PG No, it is only gone from the TB!, but all mail is still on the PG Exchange server. The folder was truncated. As far as I know, there is PG no way to re-synchronize it with the TB!. I use the IMAP connection method to out Exchange server at work as TB! doesn't handle to Exchange protocol too well: * The dates are messed up * Messages sometimes seem to be deleted from server on fetch -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 150K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Text is removed from SmartBat when is copied by Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Ins
Hello Marek, Friday, November 19, 2004, 7:54:38 PM, you wrote: MM I have text in SmartBat (i have many Pads, this one has 140kB, but it MM happens in small Pads too) and when I copy it by that combos, close MM SmartBat with Esc and open it again, copied text is not there. When I MM copy it and paste to other place, it is there when is window closed MM and reopened. I don't know if this is related at all (probably not) but... if I *paste* text to a pad other than the main pad, I can't be sure that the text stays there. It stays in the main pad but not necessarily in the other pads I've created. This is with version 2.11.02. -- Best regards, Pekka The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello all, I am aware, and I think most of you too, that Memo field for messages are stored in TBI file and not as part of the message in TBB file. It is not the best but it works and the only risk (that I know of) is if for some reason you delete the TBI file for a folder, then all memos are lost. Moving the message to another folder moves the Memo also, etc. But here is something I found out today the hard way. I use a number of VFs to organise my pending issues (actions, replies, etc.) and to make it a little easier for me to follow up I decided to include some comments (like the action to carry) in the Memo field. Everything seemed so great after about one hour of work! But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-( I must consider this a bug because any other action done to a message in a VF is actually done in the original folder of the message (i.e. flagging, colour groups, etc.). If anyone can confirm I will open a BT report. TIA. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Jonathan Butler - Back To Love (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid Pointer on read filter
Hello TBBETA,
I get the Invalid Pointer Error below:
,- [ On Read Filer ]
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| Invalid pointer operation.
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| OK
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I should add the read filter adds a color group and parks the message
with the color group being set up as a VF.
If you need the filter, see below:
,- [ Read Filter ]
| TB! Message Filter
| beginFilter
| UID: [05C9EA78.01C492BB.622E355B.4D4EBCCE]
| Name: TB\20Helper\20park\20on\20TBBETA
| Filter: {0\0D\0A0`0`2`.\0D\0A0`15`0`-131901972\0D\0A}
| Park
| SetColour -131901972
| IsActive
| IsSendQueue
| endFilter
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Confirm?
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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello MAU everyone else, on 20-Nov-2004 at 19:56 you (MAU) wrote: But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-( Maybe you can explain the precise steps to reproduce the problem? I just created a memo for a message in a VF. I located the original message and the memo was there, too. Then I right-clicked the VF and selected refresh. The memo was still there, both in the VF and the original message. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello MAU, But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-( Forget everything I said, false alarm! It is just a minor _display_ bug but memos are _not_ lost. Here is what happens. When VF is refreshed or you move to another folder and then move to the VF, the messages pane does not display memos until it gets the focus (i.e a message is selected in the pane). See attached PNGs, 1 is after a refresh or after just moving to the VF and 2 is after selecting a message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Juwett Bostick - Elsi n Me. (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay)attachment: VF_1.pngattachment: VF_2.png Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Alexander, Maybe you can explain the precise steps to reproduce the problem? I just created a memo for a message in a VF. I located the original message and the memo was there, too. Then I right-clicked the VF and selected refresh. The memo was still there, both in the VF and the original message. It was a false alarm. Se the reply I've just sent to myself in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :) Anyway, I had forgot to mention that I was displaying Memo as a column on the messages pane and there is where the (now small) problem occurs. Can you confirm this now small bug? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Winamp Playing: Norah Jones - Those Sweet Words (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello MAU, On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M Forget everything I said, false alarm! It is just a minor _display_ bug M but memos are _not_ lost. Here is what happens. I've always had a little problem with memos. I only have one normal folder with memos for about 60% of the 108 messages in it. Each time I open the folder the memos display differently. Sometimes they aren't there at all until I double click somewhere in the folder. Other times there is just half a memo visible (like the top half or bottom half of the text), and other times only a few memos will show and I have to click several times in different places to get them all to show. Never reported it before because they are the only memos I use, it's only a small folder and no one else has ever reported this problem so I thought it was something wrong with my set up. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.0.2.7 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | Opera 7.60 build 7321 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE pgpAgiOPwsHnB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello MAU everyone else, on 20-Nov-2004 at 20:51 you (MAU) wrote: Can you confirm this now small bug? Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a memo is selected. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Jennings Corollary to the Law of Selective Gravity: The chance of the bread falling with the butter side down is directly proportional to the value of the carpet. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Alexander, Saturday, November 20, 2004, 5:22:11 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Can you confirm this now small bug? Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a memo is selected. Confirmed! -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:52:35 +0100, MAU wrote: I believe this is due to the fact that, at least for this operation, TB does bot consider sender to be just the address in From: field. It looks like it also check for the presence the Reply-To: field (and maybe more)and if any of these fields includes a different address than the one in From:, it will ask you if you want to also include the _rest_ of addresses. Thanks for the attempt at an answer, Miguel. The big problem I have is the maybe more that you mention. For example, to test your theory, try this out on a message where the From and Reply-To fields are the same. You will still get this question. So that means that TB is definitely, not maybe, looking at something else as well. To the best of my recollection, I have never used this feature when TB did not ask me this question. So all I want to know is what is it that TB will be adding if I answer Yes. To my thinking, this behavior is annoying and unfriendly. But before I file a complaint - bug - on BT for something as longstanding as this, I'd like to get more feedback from others. Hence all this blah-blah. :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
mail downlaoded but not saved
im currently testing The Bat! V3.0.2.7, up until a few weeks ago everything was working great now i cant get my mail, it downloads just doesnt save to my computer and doesnt change staus on the server, ive tried disabling my filters, ive tried disabling my firewall and my AV software...still get the same results, no mail installed The Bat on another system i have here with the same results, no mail installed Foxmail, mail downloads fine installed Becky Internet Mail, mail downloads fine Ive mailed my ISP to see if they have made any changes that might cause this. this might be a long shot, but someone else might be using The Bat! on my ISP who reads this, im using Nildram in the UK is there anything else i can try while waiting for my ISP to respond to me? Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
