Betas and Encrypted Msg Base

[Joseph N.]

Somewhere around here I read that version 3's Pro flavor would have 
an encrypted message base.  I had downloaded the evaluation copy of 
the Pro app that's on the Ritlabs main page, and I've put some Beta 
versions on top of that.  The latest on my machine is the latest 
generally available, B15.  The message base, however, is not 
encrypted.  When using Mailbag Assistant to look at a .tbb file, it's 
all there in plain text.  What's the story on this?

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Customizable Toolbar

[Joseph N.]

Seems that there's still no way to customize the toolbars.  Are there 
any plans to introduce that capability?

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Re: Some bugs for confirmation and an urgent wish

[Joseph N.]

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:52:16 GMT, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
: 

> I
> have put a wish onto the BugTraq asking for a greater
> sophistication in TB's Message ID generator:

How do you envision this would work?

> Please support this request!

How?

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Re[2]: GMane Config Info

[Joseph N.]

> All of the information you seek is at www.gmane.org

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Re[2]: Importing Multiple E-mail Addresses

[Joseph N.]

Januk,

   On Sunday, March 07, 2004, Januk Aggarwal wrote in
:

JA> I don't remember about the importing, but TB can handle multiple
JA> addresses. Just put them all in the one field, one address per line.

That's a manual procedure that is of no use when importing many
hundreds contact records, all of which have the individuals' multiple
e-mail addresses in their proper fields.

JA> It would be nice if the address picker could use a tree view to
JA> display a contact's multiple addresses.

Different issue, but yes, I agree.

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Importing Multiple E-mail Addresses

[Joseph N.]

Other modern applications have multiple e-mail fields for different
e-mail addresses. For example, many contacts these days have a work
e-mail address, a home e-mail address, and perhaps one or two other
e-mail addresses. TB!, however, still has no way to import contact
records from other programs so that the multiple e-mail addresses go
into the proper fields in TB! TB! does not even have multiple e-mail
address fields.

Is this something that is slated for development in the near future?

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IMAP Not Functioning

[Joseph N.]

I'm trying to understand how IMAP does and does not function with TB!,
but it seems from the posts I've read that there is a basic degree of
proper functionality.  Well, not here, under 2.03/b47.

The last checks of the account at issue here were through the TB! IMAP
account, and they showed no messages.  Then the following occurred:

 is a screenshot of what
happened when I checked through the TB! IMAP account. It shows two
messages, but no headers were visible, despite the fact that the
account is set up to sync both headers and message bodies.

 is a screenshot of the account
through a web-based IMAP interface (SquirrelMail), taken immediately
after 1.png. No messages appear in the account at all. (I separately
checked the trash, and there was nothing there.)

What am I--or TB!--doing wrong here?  I have no confidence that this
thing is working the way it should

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AB Blocked In Group

[Joseph N.]

I posted something on this topic to the TBUDL, but I have since
narrowed down the behavior and am wondering if it's a bug with the
Beta version I'm using (2.03/25).

The following is based on an installation having multiple user
accounts with one administrator.  One user account has a full AB,
including groups.  When that user account is logged on, the AB appears
without problem.  However, if the Administrator logs on and selects
that user's account in the account tree, the AB is not available (a
new AB with no entries, except the default TB! entry, appears).
Similarly, if the user is made part of a group, and the group logs on,
the user's AB is no longer available.  It seems to be that an
individual user's AB is not available when there are multiple user
accounts open.

Is this governed by a toggle somewhere that I just haven't found, or
is it a bug?

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IMAP Questions

[Joseph N.]

I'm trying to figure out IMAP using TB!, but it's sometimes difficult
to discern whether odd behavior is due to the way that IMAP works or
due to TB!'s implementation

I just synchronized a mailbox using IMAP, and TB!'s status line read,
"1 recent, 3 unread out of 3 total messages"  However, only one
message shows up in the message list.  Plus, it appears there twice,
once with nothing in the preview pane (and nothing if I try to open it
up), and once with a real message to be read.

How can I read my other two unread messages, and why must there be a
shadow message in the message listing?

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Re[2]: .56: Automatically Starts

[Joseph N.]

   On Friday, November 28, 2003, Marek Mikus wrote in
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>> .56 automatically starts when I restart Windows.  Running XP Pro
>> with multi-user configuration.  Anyone else having this?

MM> Did You correctly closed The Bat!? There is new option in program
MM> preferences called "Start program after system halt", maybe this
MM> is an answer.

Marek,

Thanks.  There was no premature close, but I'll deselect the option
and see whether that matters.

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IMAP

[Joseph N.]

I'd like to start exploring IMAP. Until now I just have not paid
attention to IMAP-related threads. I'm willing to do some catch-up,
but--by way of starting out--would someone tell me which Beta was the
first to utilize IMAP protocol reliably (assuming that reliability has
been achieved)? Also, I'd appreciate it if anyone could recommend an
IMAP primer that they're especially fond of.

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Re[2]: S/MIME vs PGP

[Joseph N.]

   On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, Allie Martin wrote in
:

AM> To use PGP/MIME

Allie,

Thanks, I think I'm getting there :-)
How do I instruct TB! which keys to use?

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Confusion over ver. 2 Registration

[Joseph N.]

I'd like to d/l v.2, but I'm concerned about the registration issue.
It seems from some posts that Ritlabs is mailing a registration key,
but I haven't received one.  Will the current registration
key/password work?  What's the procedure with this...?

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Quarantine Folders with NOD32 ver. 2

[Joseph N.]

It seems that, with NOD version 2, there's no usefulness to my TB!
quarantine folders.  Is that correct?

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Re: Removing Account.FLB

[Joseph N.]

   On Saturday, June 07, 2003, Stefan Tanurkov wrote in
:

ST> To convert, you will have to remove all ACCOUNT.FLB files before
ST> starting the Beta...

Stefan,

I never did that.  Am I in danger of some corruption at some point, or
should I assume that no problems to date mean that I'm in the clear?

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Re: Test of validating my PGP sig

[Joseph N.]

   On Saturday, June 07, 2003, DG Raftery Sr. wrote in
:

DRS> A diplomat thinks twice before saying nothing

DG,

Do you know whose quote that is in your footer?

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AB display/sort order [was: Re[x]: 1.63 Beta/5]

[Joseph N.]

Marek,

   On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, Marek Mikus wrote in
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MM> please add "Last First" option, it is used in many cases, If user want
MM> to sort users by Surname.

The display name is different from the sort order.  One can sort by
surname (View/Sort by/Last name), while still displaying as
"FirstName LastName."

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1.63 Beta/3; Installation

[Joseph N.]

ST> Version 1.63 Beta/3 is now available

I think I'm going to take the plunge.  Can this version be installed
right over my 1.62/17 installation, or should I uninstall the previous
version?

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Re: Windows Task Bar

[Joseph N.]

Mogens,

   On Friday, December 13, 2002, Mogens Holst wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

MH> Latest problem (or is it a bug?) is that Windows (XP) task bar disappears
MH> and I can see part of the wallpaper below the maximized Bat!

MH> I can, of course, bring it back by tapping one of the Windows keys, but
MH> it disappears again once I start moving around in TB.

MH> There are no icons visible on the desktop if I run TB in non-max (normal) size.

Not reproduced here.

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Re: Internal defragmentation of message bases

[Joseph N.]

Marcus,

   On Saturday, November 09, 2002, Marcus Ohlström wrote in
:

MO> So, what do you think?

Makes sense to me.  I don't know enough about the newer file systems
in Windows to comment intelligently, but,if it could work, I think
you've hit on a very useful feature possibility.

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1.62/B7 and Read Filters

[Joseph N.]

Is anyone else having a problem with the reliability of 'read' filters
under ver. 1.62/Beta 7?

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Re: Is it me or ....

[Joseph N.]

   On Saturday, August 03, 2002, DG Raftery Sr. wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DRS> For the past 4 days I have received nothing but a trickle of messages
DRS> generated on any of The_Bat!'s lists. 

I wish it were so I get only TBUDL and the Beta list, but they've
been coming through as normal. TBUDL, for example, just received 26
messages this morning, although most of those are from late yesterday
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Re: address

[Joseph N.]

   On Thursday, July 11, 2002, Peter Kerekes wrote in
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PK> Lately,  (I  am  not  sure since which version) when I write a new mail and
PK> type  in  the handle in the "To" line I get only the E-mail address. In the
PK> past  the  whole name showed up as "xxx xxx". I searched where can I
PK> change this back but could not find a place.

PK> Would appreciate an advise.

PK> BTW:  I  would  like  to make a template (or else), if I am in a folder and
PK> write  a  letter  the  "To"  would  fill in automatically like in this case
PK> ttbeta@bbb

Peter,

If I understand you correctly, it seems you are confusing separate
functions into one expectation.  The program has an autocomplete
function, by which the TO: field will be filled in with recently
used text that matches what you are typing.  That is probably why the
email address alone shows up.  You can also autocomplete your way into
the name *and* email address two ways: either by typing what's been
typed recently before, which might include the quotation marks; or by
typing the last name if the name is in the address book displayed by
last name, in which case what will appear is Lastname
, and you can just add the first name.

So, you can get an autocompleted TO: field when you've recently
entered the same information or when the information is contained in
the address book.  The template function is totally different, though.
Even when you have a template set (for everyone, or just a group, or
just an individual), you still need to put some data in the TO: field,
either by typing it or completing it from the AB or using an
autocomplete function, or using MAPI from another source.

If this isn't helpful because I misunderstood your situation or you
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Changing administrator settings

[Joseph N.]

I've written about this before, but I'll throw it out here again
because it still happens with ver. 1.61.

When I go in to a multi-user machine as Administrator, there are the
following two things wrong:

1.  The first listed user under Options/Network/Privileges is listed
as having administrator privileges.  It doesn't matter how often I
correct and save this setting; it always reverts to the wrong default.

2.  Frequently, but I don't think every time, the sole group I have
set up gets changed.  The biggest change is that the member users are
no longer checked (Options/Network/Groups), so the "group" is empty.
What this means is that when a group user tries to log in, the program
hangs and has to be killed.

Can someone reproduce these, or come up with a reason why they're not
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Re[3]: 1.61

[Joseph N.]

MM> I'm reuploading the fixed version, the URL is
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/the_bat.exe

Very nice  very fast

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Re[3]: TheBat! Pro

[Joseph N.]

   On Sunday, June 23, 2002, Alexander Leschinsky wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

AL> Russian crypto-standards

Alexander,

What does that mean?  How are they different?

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Re: Has anything changed in the threading algorithms recently?

[Joseph N.]

   On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Chris Wilson wrote in
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> Threading seems a shadow of its former self. I can't say just WHEN this
> occurred, but I am running 1.60n right now, and several mailing lists
> have horrible threading with orphaned articles galore. I have checked my
> settings haven't changed, I still sort on message creation time and view
> threads by references. I can't see any list changes in the headers to
> explain it either. Thanks.



Chris,

I've noticed the same thing.  Separated msgs with overlapping
references.  Pls post your findings if you come up with anything.

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Re: Filter string

[Joseph N.]

   On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, Adam wrote in
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> If I have a filter, and string set for presence Yes, then that is a
> requirement for any message to satisfy, regardless of any other
> setting, is that correct?

Adam,

If I understand your meaning, then Yes.  The string set (the content
for which the program will search) and the presence condition (whether
the trigger is the presence or the absence of the string set) together
form what is sometimes called a rule.  There can also be alternative
rules in the same filter, which can be thought of as one collective
rule.  Some rules are under the "rule" tab, such as the presence of
string sets.  Other rules are under the "advanced" tab.

Then there is an action.  Some actions are actually set on the "rule"
tab, e.g., "Move message to folder X."  Other actions are on the
"action" tab.

(Rule + action) = filter.

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Re[2]: 1.60n

[Joseph N.]

good catch

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> Yet another correction. :-)

> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb160n.zip


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Re: 1.60n

[Joseph N.]

.rar or .zip, either way I get an error message that reads:

File Not Found
The requested URL /ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb60n.zip was
not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 File Not Found error was encountered while trying
to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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> Hello Tbbeta!

>   The Bat! 1.60n is available at
>   http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb60n.rar

>   We were working hard to find the GDI leak bug and we've finally
>   fixed it.

>   [-] Fixed the GDI leak.
>   [-] Fixed CSR generation for internal S/MIME implementation.
>   [-] It was impossible to use a suitable cryptographic provider other
>   than specifyng "Default". Now, even if you select a provider, a
>   suitable provider for a particular algorithm can be
>   automatically selected.


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NOD32 test version BAV

[Joseph N.]

Just installed the NOD32 BAV, and noticed it is listed as a "test
version."  This raises two questions which perhaps someone here can
answer:  Is there any reason not to continue using the native NOD32
POP3 scanner along with this test version?  I hate to trust something
this new with a mission this important.

The other question has to do with the action once an infected virus is
found.  Does TB! piggy-back onto the remedial bahavior of the AV
program, so that, if I selected to try to clean the virus, it would be
NOD32 that would be doing it instead of TB!?  I love TB! as an email
client, but I'm not sure it's ready for reliable quarantining or
cleaning just yet

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Re[3]: NOD32.BAV - Flash Activation

[Joseph N.]

> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/bav/

Please ignore the last cry for help.  When I went in on ACM's URL,
which was an ftp protocol address, I was able to d/l the file through
my browser.

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Re[3]: NOD32.BAV - Flash Activation

[Joseph N.]

JN>> 1.  Why do you use the NOD32 BAV instead of NOD32's own POP3
JN>> scanner?

> The POP3 scanner will not handle encrypted (TLS) communication with
> the server.

Thanks.

JN>> 2.  Where did you get the NOD32 BAV?

> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/bav/

When I try to retrieve the file with my browser (Mozilla), I just get
a page of code.  When I try to retrieve it with an ftp program
(WS_FTP), I am asked for a User ID.  In other words, how can I d/l the
file??

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Re: NOD32.BAV - Flash Activation

[Joseph N.]

John,

Can't comment on your question, but I do have two related questions
for you:

1.  Why do you use the NOD32 BAV instead of NOD32's own POP3 scanner?

2.  Where did you get the NOD32 BAV?

JN


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> When using the NOD32.BAV plug-in, something flashes on the screen.  It
> is a little too fast for me to see what it is, but it looks like the
> NOD32 program.

> This flash causes the focus to be changed from where I am working.
> This becomes bothersome when working on a letter or even drafting
> another e-mail, because then I have to alt-tab or mouse back to the
> item I was working on.

> Anyone else experiencing this?

> I'm run 1.60c on W2k Pro SP2, if that matters.


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Re: NOD32 BAV plugin

[Joseph N.]

Kai, thanks for your comments.  I was wondering whether there was any
reason to use the TB! plug-in for NOD32, in view of their own fast
scanner.  It sounds like the only reason might be the quarantine
folder (though personally I can live without that, I think
comments from others would be appreciated)

FYI, I wrote the ESET in January or February, after the update that
started generating--and not cleaning up--the .tmp files.  They said
that they were aware of the problem and would be fixing it in the next
version.

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 "Kai Göing" wrote on Tuesday, April 09, 2002:

> Hi:

> The NOD32 BAV Plugin does scan incoming mails all right, but every
> time an attachment is scanned, the user needs to click "Exit" (or an
> approriate action if a virus was found) to close NOD32 manually. As
> long as that is not done, the "Command Center" does not import the
> messages. That is, of course, a major pain in the butt. Furthermore,
> Eset's POP3 scanner that is part of NOD32 is much faster and more
> convenient than the BAV command line scanner. So I really don't see
> any point in using the BAV plugin at all. Admittedly, the creation of
> the quarantine folder is very nice but the manual intervention of the
> user makes the usage of the plugin quite tedious. The user should only
> be asked to intervene when a virus has been found, not when the
> attachment does not contain any viri ("Exit"). The only good thing is
> that the BAV plugin does not leave any temp files behind like Eset's
> POP3 scanner. Hopefully, they will fix that problem, I don't wanna
> call it a bug, soon.

> So long,


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Re[2]: BAV plug-ins

[Joseph N.]

Jacek, is your experience with using a TB! plug-in for NOD32?

I use NOD32's POP3 scanner between TB! and my POP3 server.  It's
quick, and it doesn't quit upon finding no viruses.  When there is a
virus found, a large dialog box pops up with identifying information
about the email (sender and subject and, possibly, date); the name of
the malicious code; and some choices.

JN

 Jacek Wojaczynski wrote on Tuesday, April 09, 2002:

> On Tuesday, April 9, 2002 Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

>>   We've made several BAV plug-ins, they are working using a particular
>>   Anti-virus' command line interface. They are available from
>>   ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav
>>   Please test them. 95 versions were not tested, so your comments are
>>   welcome :-)

> OK. I just downloaded free 25-day trial of nod32 for Win9x.

> When there is no virus found by nod32 it simply quits.
> Although in TB! I get some strange info (attached message).

> PS. Don't know what happens when there is a virus in a file.
> Don't have any at the moment. Could someone, please, send me
> some virus?

> regards,


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Re[2]: old complaint

[Joseph N.]

> This leads to two questions: how do you read this list and do you
> have the message list enabled in the folder-view?

> I mean when you are following a particular thread do you open and
> close the folder-view every time you read one message in that thread?
> So when the thread contains 30 messages you open and close the folder
> view 30 times?

Only some of the threads in any given mailing list interest me.  I
cannot figure out how to click on a specific thread and open it all at
once; nor can I figure out how to view one message in a thread and
then click the navigation arrows to browse through the rest of that
thread.  So, my only choice seems to be to manually expand the thread,
view the messages in the preview pane, and open whichever one(s) I
want to see in a big window.  I do not open each message I read, so
No, I don't open and close the folder repeatedly.  But, as I say, the
navigation icons plain don't work through threads, so I wind up having
to open and close just to get to the next message I want to read. (The
icons do not even reliably go in the same direction; see comments on
this list on that topic about a week ago.)  Do you have suggestions?


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Re: PGP/GnuPG in 1.60

[Joseph N.]

My experience is that one is better off using GnuPG through the
GPGshell tray program than with The Bat's plug-in.  Reliability is
better and the options are greater.  I found some of TB's menu options
didn't produce with GnuPG, including poor key management.  The tray
options do not produce exta work, just extra control.

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 Peter Meyns wrote on Monday, March 25, 2002:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Hi friends,

> the plugin for PGP 6.5.8 works well here. With GnuPG however, there are
> some problems. TB! lets me sign messages with GPG, but it refuses to
> encrypt or decrypt, the error msg telling me that the key was not found
> (although it is in my keyring). I can encrypt to myself, though.
> GPGShell de- or encrypts without problems.

> Anything on my side that I can do?


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Re[5]: The Bat! - bug report - address book

[Joseph N.]

You're missing the point.  They are not duplicate entries.  TB!'s
address book is set up to display names in several formats, including
those common in various countries and contexts.  If a user has not
filled in all the address book fields, then the entries might appear
to be duplicate, but that is because the program can only display what
the user has provided.

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 Alex Sanyukovitch wrote on Thursday, March 21, 2002:

> Hello Ron,

> Thursday, March 21, 2002, 10:42:19 AM, you wrote:

>>> The suggestions are a lot more sensible if you enter a middle name, too.
>>> And if you also set a prefix on the next tab, there are no duplicate
>>> suggestions any longer.

> Is  it  so difficult  for  a  program  to  check  a list and remove all
> duplicate entries?


RS>> Ah, I see said the blind man. I normally don't use middle initials,
RS>> but it does make sense now. Sorry for the "false" report.

> This is not a "false" report.
> The Bat! could (should!) handle this type of things...


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Re[2]: Confused about RTF composition

[Joseph N.]

>> By default it's in gray with another font : you can change it as
>> you want.

> If you can't see it that way in every message, chances are that the
> sig delimiter isn't correctly set - or we have a (small) cosmetic bug
> in TB!' RTV.

Oddly enough, it works when I compose a message in a different email
program (Mozilla 0.9.9) and open it here in TB!.  The delimiter (dash
dash space return) and everything below it is in the small gray font.
But when I perform exactly the same operation, keystroke for
keystroke, but compose it here in TB! and send it through the Internet
to be received in a different TB! account (on same machine as
composition), the delimiter and signature appear in the B49 RTV in the
same font as the body of the message.

JN


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Re[2]: Confused about RTF composition

[Joseph N.]

Merci.

JN


 Philippe Gouillou wrote on Saturday, March 16, 2002:

JN>> where/how can TB! compose RTF?

> Have a look at [Options | Preferences | Viewer | Signature Text] :
> that's  where the appearance of what is below the dash-dash-space-
> return is defined. By default it's in gray with another font : you
> can change it as you want.


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Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/49

[Joseph N.]

While a mutli-user environment would more likely result in the problem
we're discussing, that's not how it arises for me.  My configuration
is as follows:  one separate user with one account; one group with two
accounts, neither of which is that separate user I first mentioned.  I
usually load the group with both accounts, but sometimes I will load
just one account or the other.  As I say, I'm not really sure how the
problem develops, but I think it's due to the settings when the
program was last used.

JN


 Allie C Martin wrote on Saturday, March 16, 2002:

> From your description you seem to be using TB! with
> multiple users loading it as a different user with different accounts
> being displayed for each user. This is very likely a bug confined to a
> multiple user environment.


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Confused about RTF composition

[Joseph N.]

Some footers are appearing in the RTF viewer with that small gray
type. One example is the text that the listserv adds; it is also
appearing in the signatures of list members. Are these all composed in
a program other than TB!, something that can compose in RTF?  If so,
how are they being added, because the only options I can find to
insert text into a QT are for text files not RTF files. If not, if
they're being composed in TB!, where/how can TB! compose RTF?

JN


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Re[2]: Common folders

[Joseph N.]

There should be a way optionally to relocate these common folders.  If
I have two identities within one group, and the data files are located
in a place that makes sense for my organization (and from which they
are automatically backed up), it does not make sense for folders which
are common to the accounts within that group to be located in a
totally different place.

JN


 Peter Hampf wrote on Friday, March 15, 2002:

> Good evening Joseph,

> on Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:30:02 -0600 GMT your local time you wrote:

JN>> like a common folder.  Assuming they still exist somewhere on my
JN>> system, where does the Beta series store them and how are they named?

> they are stored usually in \mail\.

> The common "inbox - known" folder is named $Known$.

> Hope it helps.


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Re[5]: The Bat as default mailer in IE

[Joseph N.]

 Peter Kerekes wrote on Thursday, March 14, 2002:

> When I click on an E-mail address in
> Explorer, Bat opens, but so does Agent (my former E-mailer)
> although I changed in IE in programs to Bat.

> Any suggestions?

Not a one.  That's very strange


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Re[2]: Re-direct Behavior

[Joseph N.]

Does the Reply-To show the last sender only if that information is
included in the account's properties, or does TB! add it regardless?

JN


RMN>>  To me that is strange behavior when a want to redirect it so
RMN>>  the person to whom I redirected can reply directly to the
RMN>>  original sender.


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"Known" filter and processing speed

[Joseph N.]

I disabled the "known" filter because I assumed it had some processing
overhead which caused a delay. I'm wondering now, though, whether
anyone here who uses it on a Win98 machine has a sense of whether the
difference is noticeable.

JN


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Re[2]: Menu navigator

[Joseph N.]

I agree w/ Yuki's points.  As I recall, recent reviews of TB! in
Stroud's knocked the menu layout as one of the poorer qualities of TB!

JN

 Yuki Taga wrote on Wednesday, March 06, 2002:

> Seriously though, a weak internal relationship like that matters
> little to the end user, who wants a simple intuitive connection
> between menu headers and their contents. Coders should probably
> *not* be naming menu headers, so problems like this don't
> materialize. 

> I'm very happy that 'Specials' got its own place on the menu bar, but
> 'Specials' is about as vague a rubric as one could possibly concoct.
> I opened 'Specials' the very first time hoping to find either a price
> discount on future updates, or perhaps a Tahitian vacation offer, or
> at the very least some grocery coupons.  None of those things were to
> be found, sadly.

> But everyone is different, of course, and one person's 'intuitive'
> may be another's 'confusion'.  To me, for example, 'Sorting Office'
> is a tool. ^^_^^ But it does seem very odd to me that 'Address Book'
> is under 'Tools', yet the *tools* to manipulate the Address Book (add
> sender, delete sender, add recipient, etc.) are 'Specials'? It is not
> what one would call intuitive, I suggest.  Human beings can adapt to
> almost anything, however, even the bizarre.  

> There is plenty of room on the menu bar (of course, I'm speaking as a
> 1024 x 768 person, others may disagree).  I would strongly suggest
> that Address Book gets its own header, and that many of the so-called
> 'Specials' would belong under that header.  ('Create Filter' is not a
> tool?)  The Address Book seems to me to be such a central part of TB
> that it's hard to justify not having a header dedicated to it on the
> menu bar. If the menu bar is deemed to have 'No Vacancy', I would
> suggest dumping the overly vague 'Specials' in favor of 'Address
> Book', and relocating the inhabitants of 'Specials' to more logical
> domiciles.


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Re[2]: MAPI inoperable

[Joseph N.]

I'm not sure what any of this means, so I'll pass it all on FWIW

I finally downloaded the newer .dll file, copied it into the primary
directory, and rebooted.  Just to be sure, I went in to the
administrator's preferences and re-installed MAPI.  It still wasn't
working.

I happened to pick a contact (in Lotus Organizer) who has entries in
two different TB! address books.  I clicked in Organizer; a dialog in
that program came up (asking whether to address an email or to drop
the address info in an email); and then--showing that the call did, in
fact, get to TB!--a dialog from TB! came onscreen.  TB! showed a
dialog to resolve the email conflict due to there being two different
entries.  I clicked one of the two entries, and that's when it all
stopped and nothing further happened.  So, MAPI seemed to be working
enough to get the data to TB!, which then seems to be dropping it.

Next, I changed the Organizer setting to use the Simple MAPI client,
without specifying TB!  Now it worked.  I switched it back to TB!, and
it worked again.  None of this should have mattered, but it did.  But
then I noticed something odd about the addresses that were going in to
the composition window.

When TB! picked up the MAPI call, it checked its own address books
(all of them, not just the default) for similar addresses.  If it
found one, it used the associated card to address an email.  If it did
not find one, it failed to create an email with the information being
passed by MAPI.

Any ideas about what's going on or how to make it function better?  Is
it just inadequate programming in TB!'s code?

JN


 Thomas Lieblang wrote on Wednesday, March 06, 2002:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:01:12 -0600 (06.03.02 23:01 local time) 
> Joseph N. wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>> Under 1.53t, I could click on a contact in Lotus Organizer, click the
>> mail icon in that program, and have a properly addressed window open
>> up in TB!.  Under 1.54B45, that does not work.  I checked to be sure
>> that TB! was my default email program; I checked to be sure that Lotus
>> Organizer had TB! as the appropriate mail program; and I reinstalled
>> the TB! MAPI support, just in case it was somehow tied to the 1.53t
>> program.  Still, nada.

>> Ideas?

> Do you use the "new" Mapi.dll (uploaded 29. Jan 2002)?
> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/TBMapi.dll

> Thomas


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Re[2]: MAPI inoperable

[Joseph N.]

I can't seem to download this file.  Any suggestions, please?

JN


 Thomas Lieblang wrote on Wednesday, March 06, 2002:

> Do you use the "new" Mapi.dll (uploaded 29. Jan 2002)?
> http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/TBMapi.dll


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MAPI inoperable

[Joseph N.]

Under 1.53t, I could click on a contact in Lotus Organizer, click the
mail icon in that program, and have a properly addressed window open
up in TB!.  Under 1.54B45, that does not work.  I checked to be sure
that TB! was my default email program; I checked to be sure that Lotus
Organizer had TB! as the appropriate mail program; and I reinstalled
the TB! MAPI support, just in case it was somehow tied to the 1.53t
program.  Still, nada.

Ideas?

JN


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Re[2]: Now look what you've gotten us into, Ollie....

[Joseph N.]

Thanks, all, for your responses.

JN


 Dierk Haasis wrote on Tuesday, March 05, 2002:

> Hello Joseph!

[...]


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