5.0.36.2 : Invalid HTML !
Hello, Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00404BEE in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 259A287CTCssViewer.GetDate -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.36.2 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.3.1.1 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.34.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks.
Hello, well, after months or maybe year, I have got this instead HTML page: Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. Maybe it is because Out of memory errors in thebat_exceptions.log, but I did not had such problems before, it started in latest builds 5.0.12.x and persists in 5.0.14. Date: 21 Jun 2011 16:31:57 OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601 PhysMemFreeTotal: 419/2047 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1522/2047 MB Address: 00404B8F ClassName: EOutOfMemory Message: Out of memory IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110618043600 K:\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00404B8F [0040] 00404B8A [0040] 0040313E [0040] 00404B8A [0040] 00404F53 [0040] 00C00699 [0040] 0046CC3D [0040] 00BDB61F [0040] 00BE0F01 [0040] 007BBCC2 [0040] 00BE0289 [0040] 00480E62 [0040] 00B12449 [0040] 00480E62 [0040] 00B151A4 [0040] 00473A36 [0040] 00405ADC [0040] -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.14 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 5.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers.
This message just displayed large blue letters saying invalid htmp. please forward to developers. no address, so not sure where it should go, so figured here was the place to start. This is a forwarded message From: Henry Heerschap he...@heerschap.com To: canon5dmar...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 9:08:28 AM Subject: [Canon5DMarkII] 580 EX II failures ===8==Original message text=== I keep thinking about Syl Arena and his twelve Speedlites mounted on a 2x4 while he shot his son smashing pumpkins. He doesn't appear to have had any issues with the 580EX II. Of course, he was using Radio Poppers. http://speedliting.com/how-to/freezing-action-with-high-speed-syn c/ One of the resulting photos ended up on the cover of his book. Henry On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:18 -0500, J Bryan Kramer codebur...@gmail.com wrote: You know that's a good point. When you think about it, someone who is willing to spend $600 for a radio trigger has self selected themselves into a high flash use group. If I had one of these I would be very tempted to ventilate the head with a few small drill holes. Also I would not stop using my 580EX II if I had one, especially since I'm in the low use group. I might avoid extreme usage, flashing the unit over and over again at short intervals for an extended period. BK “Only the print contains the artist's meaning and message. - Ansel Adams J Bryan Krämer North Florida, USA photos at: [1]http://pbase.com/photoburner blog at: [2]http://www.photoburner.net On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:50, Henry Heerschap [3]he...@heerschap.com wrote: The 580EX II has been on the market for over three years now and we’re just hearing about this. I read the article this morning and perused the PDF from LPA. Several observations: 1. why are we only hearing about this now? If this is as big a deal as they claim, we would have been hearing about it all along. Doing a quick Google search, I’m not seeing much of anything beyond this article. 2. The article indicates that LPA encourages people to use high speed sync a lot because they can multiply the units and make up for the decreased power. If you’re running your flash in HSS, you are pushing it a lot harder than would be typical. That might be the real source of the problem. 3. I’ve had mind since they originally came out, plus I’ve since bought two more. They’ve been rock solid performers. I’m not a super heavy user, but I’ve done a number of church directories and other large-ism things with them. 4. I did have one thing fail. I admit it. The rubber gasket at the foot of the unit broke on one of mine from jamming it into a flash bracket. Maybe I should sign onto that class-action suit. g I’m not especially impressed by any of this, but I’m see what happens next. Henry From: [4]canon5dmar...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[5]canon5dmar...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J Bryan Kramer Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:00 PM To: [6]canon5dmar...@yahoogroups.com; canon-10d; digital-rebels; [7]photographic-techniq...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Canon5DMarkII] 580 EX II failures Well now I'm glad I was too cheap to buy the EX II and got a plain EX. It seems that the LPA tech team (make PocketWizards) has discovered that Canon has apparently been screwing 580EX II users at least the current ones. There is a serious design fault in the flash and Canon must have known this since they designed around the problem in the 480EX II. The problem: It appears that some combination of elements comes together to create the risk and increased probability of an IGBT failure within the 580EX II. ‐ Sealed flash tube assembly (internal zoom carriage assembly) ‐ Misalignment of the flash tube within the reflector such that arcing is more probable ‐ Reduced optical feedback via the fiber optic sense cable in the flash head ‐ Dryer air where ozone can be generated more easily ‐ Electrical discharge through the reflector at a moment when the IGBT is turned off [8]http://www.canonrumors.com/files/580EXII.pdf Quite technical meaning it will be tough going if you don't know much about electronics. The translation: The IGBT is one of the transistors on the 580EX II. It controls the flash duration. The head on the flash is sealed, multiple flashes build up ozone, since the unit is sealed the ozone is trapped in the flash head. By some unknown, at this, time mechanism, the increased ozone cause IGBT failure. Replacing the IGBT will lead to another failure quickly. Removing the glass plate and making the unit non-sealed leads to zero failures after IGBT replacement. Thus the ozone is the problem since removing the plate allows the unit to vent. The 580EX has a different design and the 480EX II has been designed with vents to allow ozone to vent off. Read the pdf even if you aren't techie with the above explanation you'll be able to follow along. Sounds like an opportunity for
Re: Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers.
Hi Dwight, no address, so not sure where it should go, so figured here was the place to start. I guess so. The HTML is really invalid :-) -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.140 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.141 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Invalid HTML
The attached (plaintext) message causes the Invalid HTML message to appear
in TB when using the Rich Text viewer.
--
Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/
[The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]
The more food you prepare, the less your guests eat.
-- The Party Law---BeginMessage---
Revision: 6945
Author: gonosztopi
Date: 2006-09-09 16:59:57 +0200 (Sat, 09 Sep 2006)
Log Message:
---
Making portuguese users happy - fix for #954.
Added ability to turn IPFilter on/off for clients/servers independently.
Modified Paths:
--
trunk/docs/Changelog
trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp
trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp
trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp
trunk/src/Preferences.cpp
trunk/src/Preferences.h
trunk/src/PrefsUnifiedDlg.cpp
trunk/src/TextClient.cpp
trunk/src/libs/ec/ECCodes.h
trunk/src/muuli.wdr
trunk/src/muuli_wdr.cpp
trunk/src/muuli_wdr.h
Modified: trunk/docs/Changelog
===
--- trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/docs/Changelog2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -22,6 +22,8 @@
* Got rid of a few more warnings.
* Fixed #929: configure: BUILD_CC uses CCs CFLAGS
* Implemented #962: don't display (0) when not downloading from
source
+ * Fixed #954 - added ability turn IPFilter on/off for
servers/clients
+ independently.
ken:
* Fixed control-clicking (right-clicking) on tabs in notebooks
on the
Modified: trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/ECSpecialMuleTags.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -281,9 +281,12 @@
if (selection EC_PREFS_SECURITY) {
CECEmptyTag secPrefs(EC_TAG_PREFS_SECURITY);
secPrefs.AddTag(CECTag(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES,
thePrefs::CanSeeShares()));
- if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
- secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED));
+ if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) {
+ secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS));
}
+ if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) {
+ secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS));
+ }
if (thePrefs::IPFilterAutoLoad()) {
secPrefs.AddTag(CECEmptyTag(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE));
}
@@ -487,7 +490,8 @@
if ((oneTag =
thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_SECURITY_CAN_SEE_SHARES)) != NULL) {
thePrefs::SetCanSeeShares(oneTag-GetInt());
}
- ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterOn,
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_ENABLED);
+ ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringClients,
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_CLIENTS);
+ ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetFilteringServers,
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_SERVERS);
ApplyBoolean(use_tag, thisTab, thePrefs::SetIPFilterAutoLoad,
EC_TAG_IPFILTER_AUTO_UPDATE);
if ((oneTag =
thisTab-GetTagByName(EC_TAG_IPFILTER_UPDATE_URL)) != NULL) {
thePrefs::SetIPFilterURL(oneTag-GetStringData());
Modified: trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/ExternalConn.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -1192,8 +1192,10 @@
case EC_OP_SET_PREFERENCES:
((CEC_Prefs_Packet *)request)-Apply();
theApp.glob_prefs-Save();
- if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
+ if (thePrefs::IsFilteringClients()) {
theApp.clientlist-FilterQueues();
+ }
+ if (thePrefs::IsFilteringServers()) {
theApp.serverlist-FilterServers();
}
if (!thePrefs::GetNetworkED2K()
theApp.IsConnectedED2K()) {
Modified: trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp
===
--- trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp 2006-09-09 07:21:12 UTC (rev 6944)
+++ trunk/src/IPFilter.cpp 2006-09-09 14:59:57 UTC (rev 6945)
@@ -391,7 +391,7 @@
bool CIPFilter::IsFiltered(uint32 IPTest, bool isServer)
{
- if (thePrefs::GetIPFilterOn()) {
+ if ((thePrefs::IsFilteringClients() !isServer) ||
(thePrefs::IsFilteringServers() isServer)) {
wxMutexLocker lock(m_mutex);
// The IP needs to be in host order
@@ -464,8 +464,10 @@
std::swap(m_iplist, evt.m_result
Re: Invalid HTML
Hallo Jernej, On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:07:13 +0200GMT (9-9-2006, 17:07 , where I live), you wrote: JS The attached (plaintext) message causes the Invalid HTML message to appear JS in TB when using the Rich Text viewer. Cannot confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof I have seen the future and it is now the past. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.85.03 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpeaL7FsaxPu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
On Saturday, September 9, 2006, 18:26:46, Roelof Otten wrote: Cannot confirm. Hmm, weird, I could when the message came to the list, but now it displays fine for me, too... -- Jernej Simončič http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] A coup that is known in advance is a coup that does not take place. -- Camp's Law Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
doing as i'm told invalid html
Howdy Flying Rodent fans, html. invalid. forward to html. i did. -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.5.33 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz 598 MHz 1.00GB RAM NIAGARA FALLS, NY - Stunt man Lucky Hinterman died while attempting to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel. Brother and equipment manager Brent Hinterman took full responsibility for the tragedy. I was in charge of getting the barrel all cushioned and reinforced. But my son had a soccer game, and in my book, family comes first. When asked if he considered his brother to be a member of the family, Brent said, Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it.attachment: invalid.jpg Current beta is 3.5.33 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML is back
Hello all, Saturday, May 28, 2005, Tim Casten wrote: ugggh its back! Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation on same message allways? Send this message then to check it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5.20 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML is back
Hello TBBETA, ugggh its back! Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation -- Best regards, Tim Current beta is 3.5.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML Back
Hello all, Thursday, May 26, 2005, Tim Casten wrote: ugggh its back! check 3.5.0.17 and not .11. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5.0.17 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML Back
HelloTBBETA, ugggh its back! Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EInvalidPointer Invalid pointer operation -- Bestregards, Tim Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: HTML use (was: Invalid HTML Back)
Hallo Tim, On Wed, 25 May 2005 19:29:06 -0400GMT (26-5-2005, 1:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TC Hello TBBETA, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Tim. ' Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML e-mail. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: the Information Frontage Road. The Bat! 3.5.0.17 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgp64LB6eLANJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
invalid HTML - anyone tracking ?
I'm getting invalid HTML on 2 types of HTML messages since moving up from 3.0.2.x. Is anyone interested in debugging via the source ? One is from Yahoo! Calendar and the other from an IT news bulleting from news.com.au Used to work beautifully. davidp. -- David Pascoe, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Western Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.9.7 Return (pre-beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.7 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
invalid html with 3.0.0.18
same thing with beta 18
I have tried in beta files but I have not found this error...
Livio
...
previous message
...
this is the message that i see...
Invalid HTML !
Please forward this message to developers.
Thanks.
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 005BB634 in module 'THEBAT.EXE'. Read of
address
and this is the HTML code of page..
htmlheadstyle type=text/cssA:link { text-decoration: none; color: #80; } ,
A:visited { text-decoration: none; color: #80; } A:hover { font - weight : bold;
color: #00;} /style
/headbodydiv align=centercentertable border=0 cellpadding=0
cellspacing=0 width=451trtd bgcolor=#00 height=4 width=18
style=font-family: Verdana; font-size: 8 px; color: #FF valign=topfont
face=Verdana size=1 color=#00./font/tdtd bgcolor=#00
height=4 width=468 style=font-family: Verdana; font-size: 8 px; color: #FF
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sito al giorno ::/b/font/p/tdtd vAlign=top align=right bgcolor=#00
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src=http://www.webbificio.com/unsitoalgiorno/immagini/weblab.gif; width=8
height=8/font/td/trtrtd colSpan=3 bgcolor=#FF style=border: 1
solid #00 width=458 valign=topdiv align=centertable border=0
cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFtrtd width=100%
bgcolor=#FF style=border-bottom: 1 solid #80div align=center
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table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=468
tr
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a href=http://xxx.kompro.net/kompro.htm; target=_new
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Re: invalid html with 3.0.0.18
On Fri 24-Sep-04 5:20pm -0400, Livio wrote: same thing with beta 18 I have tried in beta files but I have not found this error... I forward as attachment with Outlook at the office. The email is empty except for the attachment. Starting today, after installing the new beta, I'm now seeing this problem: Centered on my email on big bold blue: Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. Following by, in smaller font in red: EAccessViolation Access violation at address 005C0B7F in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0014 -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.0.18 Pro - BayesIt! 0.6.7 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current beta is 3.00.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug: 3.0.0.8 - Still invalid HTML
Hello Peter Fjelsten, on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at you wrote: Hello beta testers. It's still there. ,- [ ] | Invalid HTML ! | Please forward this message to developers. | Thanks. | EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03F8E000 `- Me too. Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks. EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 02D4E000 -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.0.8 \ Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]
Hello Allie! On Tuesday, September 07, 2004, 8:06 PM, you wrote: 9Val So purpose of today's beta is to figure reason of 'Invalid HTML' 9Val error. ... AM I just went through about 150 messages and haven't encountered this AM error. AM I see that others have seen it though. Allie, this morning I see your message that you have now encountered this. I went to bed last night thinking about it, and woke up with one idea, based on what Michael L. Wilson reported in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] where he said: I can reproduce this error by opening IE or another browser and have it loading a page when I try to view a message. Also, if there is a form waiting for input, the html error can also appear. I do not know if this is anything, just my experience. Now, I have been getting this error randomly, but never multiple instances, since v. 3.0.0.6. I have F-Secure as my AV, and I have it configured to check for updates automatically, once every 57 minutes. It uses a version of Backweb to do this. I think, in effect, it opens an HTML connection briefly, but I don't know that for sure. Anyway: Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at the same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the Invalid HTML error display? I wonder if all who are getting this might have an application set for automatic updating? (Including, of course, Windows itself.) What do you think? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Invalid HTML error -- Again and again and again
Crafted from The Desk on location in the Quality Lab. Hello Mary, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 4:25:41 PM, you wrote: I have had this error 4 times, but not so far in v. 3.0.0.8. However, a simple fix worked each time for me. I switched to PTV and then immediately back to RTV. At that point the message displayed correctly in RTV. I'm sure you must have tried that. But, if you haven't, could you test it and see if it will work for you? This is helpful. Just upgraded to the 3.0.0.8 and so far, no problems. I will keep you suggestion in mind. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethan J. Mings E-mail Client:The Bat!(3.0.0.8) Windows XP 2600Service Pack 25 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]
Mary Bull, [MB] wrote: I can reproduce this error by opening IE or another browser and have it loading a page when I try to view a message. Also, if there is a form waiting for input, the html error can also appear. I do not know if this is anything, just my experience. Hmmm. Seems like a coincidence. I get them randomly. I don't have to have a browser running to get the error. Now, I have been getting this error randomly, but never multiple instances, since v. 3.0.0.6. I get multiple instances when I aggressively look for it, and it's especially bad in a folder that contains HTML as well as plain text messages. Just to provoke it into happening, I'll rapidly switch from message to message and soon the 'Invalid HTML' errors appear. However, while actually reading mail and moving from message to message to at least glance at content, the error is very uncommon and happens only occasionally. I have F-Secure as my AV, and I have it configured to check for updates automatically, once every 57 minutes. Wow! Frequent. ;) It uses a version of Backweb to do this. I think, in effect, it opens an HTML connection briefly, but I don't know that for sure. I really doubt that this would have something to do with the error. Anyway: Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at the same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the Invalid HTML error display? 'Coincidence' is the key here. I think it would amount to only that. ;) -- -= Allie =- . 3 kinds of people: those who can count those who can't. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.8 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]
Hello Allie! On Wednesday, September 08, 2004, 7:19 AM, you wrote: MB Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at the MB same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the Invalid HTML MB error display? AM 'Coincidence' is the key here. I think it would amount to only AM that. ;) Thanks, Allie. I thought it was worth running by someone with a good diagnostic head on his shoulders. Well, a right-click on my mouse to get the context menu for a switch to PTV and back to RTV has reliably fixed it for me so far. Although, Jonathan Angliss wrote that he had had a different experience. Good that you posted the Windows context menu key for the keyboard people, too. Like Miguel, I'm a mouse person. And for the same reason--oncoming osteoarthritis in my hands. Mild, but I do like to spare them. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML continued
Hello TBBETA Members! Just for the record - so I am not the odd one out: I got one! Right now with Paul Cartwrights message [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML continued
Hello Paul! On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 10:18:23 PM you wrote: and I haven't seen an HTML error in a LONG time !! and I do have view HTML messages as using HTML only. and normally I use RTV so I can view smileys :) I doubt, ever did, that this infamous error has anything to do with HTML. I've yet to see it with an actual HTML message, whenever it hit me it was plain text messages. Which is the reason I used the source viewer way back when I had myriads of these. Perhaps it has to do with the speed one goes through one's messages; remembering this once was a theory. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.0.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request The probability of a right answer or a beneficent outcome is usually much smaller than that of the wrong or malignant ones. (Gerald Holton) Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: invalid html
On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 @ 8:29:44 PM, Johannes Posel wrote: [snips] I am very sorry to inform that I just got an Invalid HTML error. :( Johannes Hey, I got my first too :) But it didn't crash or something, it just Johannes showed inside the message pane, like in the attachment. Is that the Johannes usual behaviour? Same thing just happened here. Then I got two more. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) People who work sitting down get paid more than people who work standing up. Ogden Nash Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: invalid html
Johannes, On 07-09-2004 14:29, you [JP] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JP But it didn't crash or something, it just showed inside the message JP pane, like in the attachment. Is that the usual behaviour? Yes. -- Peter Fjelsten (using 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) IMAP/Exchange issues: Days since reported: No Drafts folder (0002080) 285 Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Invalid HTML error
Hello Michael, Monday, September 6, 2004, 11:18:57 PM, you wrote: MLW -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MLW Hash: SHA1 MLW Hello Tim, MLW On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Tim mused about Invalid HTML error (was: The Bat! MLW 3.0.0.7 is now available) (at least in part): MLW :pacsnip2a: TC I had numerous instances tonight with the new build. TC In fact it used to be when I got one of those invalid html errors if i TC changed folders and then came back it would be corrected. Not the TC case anymore. I actually have to close the program and restart. MLW :pacsnip2b: MLW I can reproduce this error by opening IE or another browser and have MLW it loading a page when I try to view a message. Also, if there is a MLW form waiting for input, the html error can also appear. I do not know MLW if this is anything, just my experience. Not able to confirm at this end, although I have never been able to get these HTML errors. I keep trying theories to see if I can reproduce, but to no avail. Using Windows 98 seems to lessen problem considerably from what I can see. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML error -- Again and again and again
Crafted from The Desk on location in the Quality Lab. Hello Keith, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 12:23:59 PM, you wrote: This is really frustrating. Right in the middle of working, all of the messages reveal some version of the error below. --- | Invalid HTML ! | Please forward this message to developers. | Thanks. | EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 021EF000 I recognize this is being worked upon. Yet, it still is *not* solved and it really, really, really is a show stopper. Even after shutting down and starting up again, the same old problem. What is confusing is it did not exist in Version 3.00 only in the lastest post release productions (betas???). Should I roll back or is a solution to this problem pending? Specs. Running Windows XP Using PoP3 Settings Limited filtering. Jerry -- Best regards, Ethan J. Mings E-mail Client:The Bat!(3.0.0.7) Windows XP 2600Service Pack 25 Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: invalid html
Hi Luigi and list, On Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at 12:45:13 GMT +0200 (which was 12:45 where I live) Luigi Rosa wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of invalid html: EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 01DA7000 I got that just a minute ago - the first one in 3.0.0.8 (RTV) after 2 hours runtime. Interesting: I even got that when looking at a SMIME-Certificate window in the general tab. Switching to Details and back to General the error was gone. The message viewer was switched to PTV by the time I tried to look at the certificate due to the HTML-Error above. That is certainly a new effect here. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.8, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid Html after folder maintenance
Hello TBBETA First I ran kill Duplicates, then Purge, Lastly Compress. The currently selected message changed to the invalid html error. See attached. -- Thanks John Seymour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8, Under Windows XP 51 2600 Service Pack 2attachment: invhtml.gif Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid Html after folder maintenance
Hello John, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 8:34:31 PM, you wrote: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is very random, but clicking around on the message list, most are now Invalid html, but some are not. I switched to plain text, could not see a pattern in the messages. Switched back to RTV and invalid again. Received my message from the list, viewed fine the first time, switched messages, and went to reply to my email and it also was invalid. Hence no quotes. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.0.8, Under Windows XP 51 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML error (was: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 is now available)
Hi Peter, on Mon, 6 Sep 2004 19:27:56 +0200GMT, you wrote: 9 Here is a short list of changes: PF I wonder why you make a new version before you fix the mother of all PF bugs - the HTML-error? That must be bugging all users with the RTV PF several times each day. PF It is not there in 3.0 but there in 3.0.0.6 and 3.0.0.7! I didn't have a single one with 300b6, neither here nor on the Win98 laptop that I used for the last two weeks. I'll see how b7 will do. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.0, on Win2K, 5, 0, build 2195, SP4, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. pgpmJVZvP4E3e.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Invalid HTML error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Salve Allen, DH On Monday, September 6, 2004 at 9:10:13 PM you wrote: No - had a lot of such HTML errors on Win2k :-| DH And none here, yet. AD Nor here. I had *one* only on 3.0.0.6, none on 3.0.0.0 and none on 3.0.0.7. Mike - -- As I said before, I never repeat myself. The Bat! v3.0.0.7 on WindowsXP Pro-SP2 GnuPG fingerprint 5481 4C57 FCFE 7953 777B B8CD 58AC B95E DBBA CE86 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBPL/cWKy5Xtu6zoYRAko1AJoDf5O15fbVBtYkGD+3GdpU4mCrUgCgrgLz gmOp0g8O9ye73DMOoFtaKdo= =hvzH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML error
Hi Dierk and list, On Monday, September 6, 2004 at 21:31:00 GMT +0200 (which was 21:31 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Invalid HTML error: No - had a lot of such HTML errors on Win2k :-| And none here, yet. Lucky you! They were gone since 3.0b1 up yesterday (2 days using 3.0.0.6). Yesterday the first one raised its ugly head again, today (in 3.0.0.7) I've got it a couple of times (they are much more persistant than in the 2.13bx versions. The only positive thing (up to now) is: I get them _only_ in the RTV. So switching to PTV let me see the message again. After reading a dozen (or so) mails in PTV I 'may' again switch to RTV and wait patiently for the next Hate-Mail :-) -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.0.7, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML error again (was: Re: TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available)
Richard Wakeford, [RW] wrote: Not here unfortunately. One time every folder I tried gave me the same message so the only option was to close TB! and start again. I've never had it happen so violently as that before. chuckle Your use of the word 'violently' is very telling. Seeing the error come out of the blue and not going away is like being violated. Hopefully, it'll be fixed soon. It's reappearance shows how darned pesky it is. -- -= Allie =- The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) . Life would be easier if I had the source code. Current beta is 3.00.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML error again (was: Re: TheBat! 3.0.0.6 Post Release is now available)
Zeynel A. Öztürk, [ZA] wrote: I received several invalid HTML errors with this version :(. These weren't exist on 3.0. Yeah. It took some doing to get back to the previous version. A repair msi installation didn't work. I eventually opened the .msi file in WinRAR, saw the excecutable listed and attempted copying it across. This aborted with an error. I tried starting TB! and got an error about the executable not being a valid Win32 file. I then repeated the .msi installation and finally I'm back to v3.0. So it would seem that if you wish to roll back to the .msi install version, then delete or rename the 3.0.0.6 executable and then do a repair install of the .msi release. -- -= Allie =- The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) . IBM: I Buy Macinstosh Current beta is 3.00.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
2.13 Beta/6 Invalid HTML Printing
Hi List, just for info: A member of our board has printed out some _text_mails. And know see screenshot of our scan from the printed message: http://www.batworld.net/privat/forenbilder/invalid_html.png Strange, or? -- Adios, Carsten www.batworld.de www.batboard.de Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML in 2.13 Beta/4
Hello Prezes! On Thursday, August 12, 2004 at 10:49:08 AM you wrote: Now I'm on vacations so no :-) Lucky you! Yes, but I wanted to said that this bug was introduced in 2.12 series, not in 2.13 series like most of people wrote at this list :-) So, misread, sorry. ;-) -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Das 11. Gebot: Du solltest vertrauen auf Deines Nachbarn Dummheit. (Aleks Papst) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML in 2.13 Beta/4
Hello Dierk! On Friday, August 13, 2004 at 7:10:20 PM you wrote: So, misread, sorry. ;-) Arrgh, that should have been: :-) -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.13 Lucky Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Invalid HTML
Hello TBBETA Members! Just being back, the infamous message from Hell.* With the current beta I get this Invalid HTML message very often with no discernible pattern. BTW, the problem with sent messages residing in the Outbox instead of going to the Sent Mail folder should be taken care of quickly. *Sorry, just in the middle of researching films from the 50s. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. (Napoleon Bonaparte) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
Hi Dierk, on Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:28:09 +0200GMT, you wrote: DH Just being back, the infamous message from Hell.* DH With the current beta I get this Invalid HTML message very often DH with no discernible pattern. So do I here. But it usually goes away when I select it the second time... hmm -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2, on Win2K, 5, 0, build 2195, SP4, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM Sorcerer parking only. Violators will be toad. Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
Hello Peter! On Thursday, August 5, 2004 at 9:45:03 PM you wrote: So do I here. But it usually goes away when I select it the second time... hmm Not here, I have to at least choose another folder, then go back and hope for luck. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request That's what Love will make you do ... (Little Milton) Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
Dear Dierk, @5-Aug-2004, 21:56 +0200 (05-Aug 20:56 UK time) Dierk Haasis said to Peter: So do I here. But it usually goes away when I select it the second time... hmm Not here, I have to at least choose another folder, then go back and hope for luck. I get stuck on it here and usually have to reload TB to make it go away. :-( -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v2.13 Lucky Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpknJK7rfy2D.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk, On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH With the current beta I get this Invalid HTML message very often DH with no discernible pattern. Thank goodness it's not just me. - -- Regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/2 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 1 | and the best browser: Opera 7.54 build 3865 PGP public key: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCA93B5BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: iQA/AwUBQRKUQhqZtcDKk7W+EQJpcACbBnmJP6Z6pv+A8QlypbNBYWQTPWMAniRg BX6S9n+jzWFE5uZ1mzuoQrpp =aDP2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.13 'Lucky' Beta/2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smiley madness as was foretold (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
Hæ! I support your point, MaXxX. ;) I am also using *only* the plain text viewer and these colonicons are getting on my nerves, too. Is it possible to create a filter which deletes anything between two colons from messages? -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.12.03 (without BayesIt) PopFile on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smiley madness as was foretold (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 1:18:41 AM, Allie Martin sculpted a piece of raw silicon into the thoughts below: I can agree with that. I automatically don't use the PCW-Smiley handles when writing to a general audience where I'm not sure what clients are being used and even if they're using TB!, whether or not they're using the PCW-Smiley pack of emoticons or have emoticon support enabled at all. Note that you and Mary are power users, not some net kiddies. You will not use smileys when the reader might fail to see them, Mary uses them fully aware that most people won't see them - but an average user will use them and not KNOW (or CARE) who sees them and who does not. That is what I call grounds for a calamity. :) -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ \~/ ICQ# 3146019 || /__\ /___\ /_\ /___\IQ# 3.14159 Random Broken English: Every rectal thermometer made by Q-Tip is PERSONALLY tested. Flyin' high with The Bat! v2.10 RC/1 over the swamps of Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smiley madness as was foretold (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
Hello MaXxX, Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 1:35:51 AM, you wrote: MaXxX Note that you and Mary are power users, not some net kiddies. MaXxX You will not use smileys when the reader might fail to see MaXxX them, Mary uses them fully aware that most people won't see MaXxX them - but an average user will use them and not KNOW (or CARE) MaXxX who sees them and who does not. That is what I call grounds for MaXxX a calamity. :) So are we to abandon acronyms too? I mean, I thought I was pretty up on all the acronyms, but I've had to look up a ton of them from users of the TB lists. CTTOI some acronyms leave me in a SOC. AWHFY? IDTSBICBR... At any rate, that's why I've pleaded with people to use handles that accurately describe the smileys. Writing, Well, I'm going to :sleep: after I eat some :icecream: makes sense whether you are RTV or PTV. Can it be a bit weird for the uninitiated? Sure.. So is everything else (top-posting, trimming quotes, sig delimiters), but everyone eventually learns. Without innovation there is no progress. What we're doing here with TB might be the standard for generations of other MUAs to come. Who knows, but we won't know unless we try. In any event, I hardly see it as the calamity you espouse. -- Leif Gregory (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. Using The Bat! 2.12.03 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Smiley madness as was foretold (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
Hello MaXxX! On Wednesday, July 28, 2004 at 9:35:51 AM you wrote: Note that you and Mary are power users, not some net kiddies. You will not use smileys when the reader might fail to see them, Mary uses them fully aware that most people won't see them - but an average user will use them and not KNOW (or CARE) who sees them and who does not. ASCII-art isn't seen correctly by all those users not using a fixed-width font. I stand by two of my points: 1. The folly will most likely be on these lists alone*, and only for a short time. 2. People able enough to use an e-mail program are also able enough to decide for themselves how and when to use graphical enhancements. *Surely private correspondence, although hinted at by your posts, cannot be the issue of an open debate? It is solely to the directly involved people in these (private!) exchanges to discuss the matter of colons. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request War does not determine who is right - only who is left. (Bertrand Russell) Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Invalid HTML
Hello Kevin, On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:27:04 -0700 GMT (27/07/2004, 01:27 +0700 GMT), Kevin Amazon wrote: You'd better know what you are doing. KA I'm sure I will be admonished and rightly so. Just responding to your KA message makes me a contributing factor in the problem I would like to KA solve. I meant it tongue-in-cheek, but it is up to the moderators to decide whether my reply to yours is still appropriate. Do you know a guy named Schroedinger, by the way? He once had a cat... KA Too funny. This comment may be more true than I yet realize. You gave me an opening. I took it. That's the kind of guy I am. Cannot resist. :badguy: I don't know about forums, but this I learned on the Usenet: When changing the subject, repeat the old subject in parenthesis, preceeded by was:. Whoever replies to it, will take the string with the parenthesis out and leave only the new subject intact. KA To be honest, I don't frequent USENET as much as I used to but at the KA time, changing subjects was considered a violation of Netetiquette. It may well be that Nettiquete is understood differently across newsgroups (especially across countries, and most of the NGs I subscribe to are in German), but then, this isn't a newsgroup. KA Perhaps that has changed. I used to mod on a couple of forums and KA changing subject within a thread was just not allowed. No matter. What do you suggest instead? KA You are pinning me down. Good for you. :-) I'm an MBA graduate! :graduate: :-) KA To be honest, it is up to the mods to determine how they want to KA run the group. My issue is simple. I am trying to justify rolling KA out TB to multiple users and I have to assess the usability of TB KA considering the fragmented and minimal documentation. KA Consequently, I go to the archives to find out from other people's KA experience how to better use the system. I am annoyed that when I KA do a key word search, totally extraneous material comes up because KA of the changed subject lines. My task is therefore made more KA difficult. I don't follow. If the subject is changed, it won't show up in your search any more, would it? KA If it were my board (which it isn't), I would not allow the changing KA of subject lines. New topics should have new subjects in a new thread. We have experimented with deleting the references for new subjects on the OT list. The result was that the history of the thread was lost, and it was useless for those who wanted to go up the thread and see what the line of argument was. KA Minor deviation of subject matter contained within a post to a thread KA should definitely be allowed and monitored by the mods. What I am KA seeing now appears to me to be mass thread hijacking under the guise KA of if I modify the subject, it will be OK. That is how I see it KA anyway. Others will certainly have different opinions. It's not how I see it. Threads should not be hijacked, of course, but some threads develop different arms, and it is a poster's responsable decision to change the subject or open a new thread. We should change the subject of this thread (again) if we continue, but now I have the feeling we should continue on TBOT anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Man: Hey baby, what's your sign? Woman: Do not enter. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Change in Subject Line (was Invalid HTML)
Hi Thomas Fernandez - On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, at 22:52:08 [GMT +0700] (which was 8:52 AM where I live) you wrote: I meant it tongue-in-cheek,... I know. It may well be that Nettiquete is understood differently across newsgroups (especially across countries, and most of the NGs I subscribe to are in German), but then, this isn't a newsgroup. Perhaps I'm an MBA graduate! :graduate: :-) ROFL I don't follow. If the subject is changed, it won't show up in your search any more, would it? Yes, and that is my point. An example: Here is a subject a few posts up: Invalid HTML (was: Beta cycle suggestion). Ok, I want to do a search on Beta cycle. What I get are all the posts with beta cycle in the post (including the subject). So, I also get this specific post that has nothing whatsoever to do with beta cycle. Multiply that by however many occurrences there in the archives. We have experimented with deleting the references for new subjects on the OT list. The result was that the history of the thread was lost, and it was useless for those who wanted to go up the thread and see what the line of argument was. I understand. It's not how I see it. Threads should not be hijacked, of course, but some threads develop different arms, and it is a poster's responsable decision to change the subject or open a new thread. it is a poster's responsable decision to change the subject or open a new thread is the potential problem, IMO None of this is really worth the bandwidth. I was only pointing out an annoyance in searching the archives when the subject lines of threads change so often. I will certainly live with it and I appreciate all the comments. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpUe5oAlY91W.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT Change in Subject Line (was Invalid HTML)
Howdy Kevin, Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:02:04 PM, Kevin wrotened: I'm an MBA graduate! :graduate: :-) KA ROFL Is that like a NBA graduate -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v2.12.03 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 It is always darkest before dawn.. So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT Change in Subject Line (was Invalid HTML)
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:09:07 -0500, Mary Bull wrote: I'm an MBA graduate! :graduate: :-) That's :grad: rofl :rofl2: Is that like a NBA graduate I don't know, you'll have to ask Thomas. ;-) SCNR :gdr: :42: ;trillstm: My TB! setup doesn't recognize MBA, :graduate:, NBA, SCNR and ;trillstm: Could this be a bug in the 2.12.03 Postrelease Beta version? Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Replys Subjects in TB lists (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
Hello Kevin, Monday, July 26, 2004, 1:27:04 PM, Kevin Amazon wrote: KA If it were my board (which it isn't), I would not allow the changing KA of subject lines. New topics should have new subjects in a new thread. ^ ^ ^ ^ KA Minor deviation of subject matter contained within a post to a thread KA should definitely be allowed and monitored by the mods. What I am KA seeing now appears to me to be mass thread hijacking under the guise KA of if I modify the subject, it will be OK. That is how I see it KA anyway. Others will certainly have different opinions. I agree with your opinion with the possible exception of a complete new subject for a new thread because when someone sees quotes in a new thread they wonder where they came from. So if I'm understanding you correctly, I would use the (was: old subject) syntax after new subject. At least that way someone could find the conversation where the subject was born, sort to speak. The down side is that moderators would have to try to administer which could be difficult. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Replys Subjects in TB lists (was: Re: Invalid HTML)
Hello Greg! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004 at 3:07:10 AM you wrote: I agree with your opinion with the possible exception of a complete new subject for a new thread because when someone sees quotes in a new thread they wonder where they came from. What wonders me is the grand discussion ensuing by such a minor inconvenience asked from us by the moderators. We are only talking a sensible change of the subject line if the subject of the message is other than the line says, that is, if the thread changes its contents. This, BTW, has always been part of Netiquette in Usenet. Together with the very old - sometimes one should read the monthly list rules reminder - directives to *open a new thread* if one has a new subject instead of replying to a message should tae care of everything. If only we try to use our brains for consideration and sensibility instead of whining and finding loopholes (no, the W.C. Fileds was inserted randomly by TB, but just fits perfectly). Lately the list obviously tries to convince me that it is not Germany but the whole world discussing minor possible quibbles to principal problems of the World's design. Let's try to be constructive instead of discussive for a change. PS: Here's one for Greg and other motorcyclists among us, http://private-parts.write4u.de/Harley%20Day%202004. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.12.03 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request I just study the Bible for loopholes. (W.C. Fields) Current beta is 2.12.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
