Re: 5.0.0.126
Hi Jernej, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Moving my mouse over the message list gives me preview window in the bottom-left corner of my secondary monitor for some reason. Slightly annoying and totally useless. Just realized that there is a new option for the hints that is called 'Coner' (sic!) and that it seems to be the default for .127 as I turned hints off. -- Best regards Raymund Using 5.0.0.127 BETA on Windows 7 (64 Bit) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Friday, January 7, 2011, 2:00:02, NetVicious wrote: There are new options for show the hint. You could change it on preferences to see it on the near mouse place. The hints are useless and the preferences don't work properly (setting them to Disabled causes URL hints to sometimes stay on screen until TB is restarted). What's wrong with classic Windows tooltips, which are: - small - unintrusive - don't steal mouse focus - disappear as soon as you move the mouse away These new hints in TB are anything but that. I know that somebody thought they were a great idea, but the way they're currently implemented they are a serious annoyance - they cover way too much text, they don't disappear when the mouse leaves the area that triggered them, and worst of all, if I happen to move my mouse over the hint and then try to scroll with my mouse wheel, the text in the hint will be scrolled instead of the window it's covering. These hints are a usability nightmare, and if they stay in like this in the final version I will have to look for another e-mail client (yes, they're annoying enough that they destroy all of the advantages TB has). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] If you assign N persons to write a compiler you'll get a N-1 pass compiler. -- Conway's Law #1 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 0:35:53, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Selecting multiple messages and deleting them places the focus on wrong message (instead of placing it to the first message after the selection, it's offset by the number of messages that were deleted). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] All generalizations are false. -- Law of Generalizations Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Jernej! On Friday, January 7, 2011 at 10:49:16 AM you wrote: These hints are a usability nightmare I am with Jernej on this, the new, propretary tool tips simply don't work, and the moment they would work they are just like already existing sytem tool tips. Get rid of the surplus code, leave tool tips to the OS. -- Dierk Haasis [DH² Publishing] The Bat 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info upon request Gewinn ist notwendig wie die Luft zum Atmen, aber es wäre schlimm, wenn wir nur wirtschaften würden, um Gewinn zu machen, wie es schlimm wäre, wenn wir nur leben würden, um zu atmen. [Hermann Josef Abs] Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
viernes, 7 ene 2011 at 10:49, it seems you wrote: The hints are useless and the preferences don't work properly (setting them to Disabled causes URL hints to sometimes stay on screen until TB is restarted). I think the same as you. They're in beta status yet, and they should be modified a bit. The problem you say aabout they do not hide when the mouse it's no on it could be changed on the options but the 50pixels of distance to the mouse cannot be lowered to 10 pixels or other value we should want to put there. I think they're cool for folders, attachments and other things but not for message list. I would like to disable they for the message list because if I want to see the message I will click on it. I writed to the BT one bug related to the reflowing of text if we change the maximum width of the hints. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Friday, January 7, 2011, 11:45:56, NetVicious wrote: I think the same as you. They're in beta status yet, and they should be modified a bit. The only reason I'm tolerating this is because this is a beta - I will not tolerate them in the current form in a final version. The problem you say aabout they do not hide when the mouse it's no on it could be changed on the options but the 50pixels of distance to the mouse cannot be lowered to 10 pixels or other value we should want to put there. In general I'm all for different configuration options, but these hints really need one single checkbox: [x] Behave like OS native tooltips 50 pixels is way too much - the distance must be set to 0 pixels (the moment the mouse leaves the element that triggered the hint it must disappear unless the mouse moved to another element that triggers a hint - in this case, the old hint must disappear and a new one must appear immediately; if the mouse pointer moves over the hint, the hint should move away, though this behaviour isn't as important as the other two I mentioned, and it also appears that VCL's native hints don't implement it). I think they're cool for folders, attachments and other things but not for message list. I would like to disable they for the message list because if I want to see the message I will click on it. They would be fine there, assuming they would behave the same like the rest of (Windows') tooltips - disappear immediately when the mouse leaves the element that triggered them. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ [ The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows 7 6.1.7600. ] A memorandum is written not to inform the reader but to protect the writer. -- Acheson's Rule of the Bureaucracy Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126 Image Download Manager
Hello Stuart, Friday, January 7, 2011, 9:27:23 AM, you wrote: sC I was playing with the Image Download Manager the other day and selected SC something, not really sure what. The result is that the icon that shows (the SC yellow circle with a question mark has turned into a green download arrow and SC now everything is automatically being downloaded. BTW, the icons that show up SC here are really ugly. Anyone else seeing this? Yes on all accounts. -- Best regards, Richardmailto:newmangr...@gmail.com -- Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows XP6 Build 7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Friday, January 7, 2011, 4:36:43 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: I am with Jernej on this, the new, propretary tool tips simply don't work, and the moment they would work they are just like already existing sytem tool tips. Get rid of the surplus code, leave tool tips to the OS. second this. the hints are a severe annoyance. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hi The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar When closing TheBat! I got this error message --- Application Error --- Exception ECriticalSectionsLeak in module thebat.exe at 00046854. Resource leak: 1 instance(s) of TBatCriticalSection left Caller addresses listed below: 0012FEAC. --- OK --- -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Pro (with OTFE) on Windows Vista 6.0 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
viernes, 7 ene 2011 at 12:53, it seems you wrote: They would be fine there, assuming they would behave the same like the rest of (Windows') tooltips - disappear immediately when the mouse leaves the element that triggered them. This will be fixed easily if Ritlabs allow us to set less than 50 pixels for hide the hint. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
miércoles, 5 ene 2011 at 00:35, it seems you wrote: The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Hi! It's my computer or it seems 5.0.0.126 goes a bit slower than 5.0.0.125? My computer it's not in the top of the edge (Athlon64 3200+) but with 5.0.0.126 my mouse sometimes goes in blocks and I have the sense TB! runs slower. ¿confirmations? -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
sábado, 8 ene 2011 at 00:10, it seems you wrote: Not with current behaviour, which seems to be hide hint when mouse moves 50 pixels from where it was when the hint was shown, or a random amount of time passes (except in random cases) - the hint should disappear when the mouse moves off the button/URL/list item that the hint was for - if the mouse is moving over the item, the hint should stay as long as the mouse doesn't leave it's area (although it would be nice if the hint moved away from the mouse pointer if the pointer got above the hint). Good idea. It will be a very good way to solve the current problem. I vote for it. Create a wish on the BT (project The Bat! wishes) and we'll vote for it. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Thursday, January 6, 2011, 1:33:09 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote: Moving my mouse over the message list gives me preview window in the bottom-left corner of my secondary monitor for some reason. Slightly annoying and totally useless. I noticed that too. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
jueves, 6 ene 2011 at 20:33, it seems you wrote: Moving my mouse over the message list gives me preview window in the bottom-left corner of my secondary monitor for some reason. Slightly annoying and totally useless. There are new options for show the hint. You could change it on preferences to see it on the near mouse place. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Professional OTFE with iKey1000 / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 3) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 3.2.6.3 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Spanish Translator of The Bat! Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Thursday, January 6, 2011, 7:00:02 PM, NetVicious wrote: There are new options for show the hint. You could change it on preferences to see it on the near mouse place. Although I read books and newspapers on my Ipod, if find the hints unreadable. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 4:06:23 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote: Twice now, I have sent small messages, only to discover hours later that they still show up as an outgoing message in progress in the connection centre. One was 6 hours, the other 3, when I found them. The messages are sitting in the outbox, with an hourglass in the parked column, and also in the sent mail folder. The one which was sent to a mailing list in fact appeared there soon after it was originally dispatched. I assume the other was received by the addressee, although I wouldn't be able to confirm that for a while yet, if necessary. When I try to exit TB, I get the question about waiting for a graceful message, but then it crashes. this message is now also languishing in the connection centre. I neglected to mention that the message count in my outbox becomes negative one. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Stuart, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 8:50:42 PM, you wrote: S Hello MikeD, S Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:17:31 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Still getting the access violation if I 'arrow key' up and down though the folder list. The message is: Access violation at address 00A50C39 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . It does not happen as often or as 'easily' as it did in the .125 version, so that is =some= improvement. S Confirmed. Is it reported in the bugtrack? I have not reported it, I wanted to be sure it had not already been loged. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:miked_...@verizon.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 8:24:20 PM, Gary wrote: I can confirm this also, happens at various random times I've made a bug report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8285 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar What's new in 5.0.0.126 since 5.0.0.125: [-] Various message viewer issues (Beta issue) [-] (#0008265) When the current message was marked as deleted, the menu item for undeletion was named as Delete (Beta issue) [-] The close separate viewer... on reply/forward option wasn't working (Beta issue) [-] (#0006010) When redirecting multiple messages, the Forwarded/Redirected flag wasn't set [-] Untranslatable section Quick Search Tabs in Preferences dialog [-] Some cosmetic issues (Beta issue) I can't load this. It hangs on the splash screen and I have to kill it with the Task Manager -- Rick There is no snooze button for a cat that wants breakfast. -Anonymous v4.2.40 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ÿþv 5 . 0 . 0 . 1 2 6 B E T A H O M E / R i c k 1 / 4 / 2 0 1 1 6 : 4 7 : 2 0 P M . 1 2 5 G U I D E F : I t e m [ m F o l d e r V i r u s C h e c k ] i s l i n k e d t o u n k n o w n p r o p e r t y [ F o l d e r V i r u s C h e c k ] v 5 . 0 . 0 . 1 2 6 B E T A H O M E / R i c k 1 / 4 / 2 0 1 1 6 : 4 7 : 2 0 P M . 1 2 5 G U I D E F : C a n n o t b i n d l a y o u t i t e m [ M s g C t l ] . [ m I m a p S y n c A l l F o l d e r s ] v 5 . 0 . 0 . 1 2 6 B E T A H O M E / R i c k 1 / 4 / 2 0 1 1 6 : 4 7 : 2 0 P M . 1 4 0 G U I D E F : C a n n o t b i n d l a y o u t i t e m [ M s g C t l ] . [ m I m a p S y n c A l l F o l d e r s ] Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Maxim, A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 01:35:53 GMT +0200 MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar MM What's new in 5.0.0.126 since 5.0.0.125: MM [-] Various message viewer issues (Beta issue) MM [-] (#0008265) When the current message was marked as deleted, the menu MM item for undeletion was named as Delete (Beta issue) MM [-] The close separate viewer... on reply/forward option wasn't working (Beta issue) MM [-] (#0006010) When redirecting multiple messages, the Forwarded/Redirected flag wasn't set MM [-] Untranslatable section Quick Search Tabs in Preferences dialog MM [-] Some cosmetic issues (Beta issue) Problems with the new hints. I tried setting hints to On Request, but they still show up as usual. Also in a message when I touch a url the hint pops up but never leaves. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Marek, A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 00:56:09 GMT +0100 Problems with the new hints. I tried setting hints to On Request, but they still show up as usual. Also in a message when I touch a url the hint pops up but never leaves. Confirmations? MM I have tried this too and restart is needed now to apply new setting. What does on request do? Also I have tried the setting to open url on mouse over, but I can't get it to work. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Maxim, A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 01:35:53 GMT +0200 MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Still need the following to work before any real testing can begin. 1) Synchronization 2) Filtering 3) View Modes -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Maxim, A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 01:35:53 GMT +0200 MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Should Purge and Compress not act like Compress alone and remove deleted messages. I would thing Purge and Compress would do more than Compress, not less. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 18:35:10 GMT -0600 MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar SC Should Purge and Compress not act like Compress alone and remove deleted SC messages. I would thing Purge and Compress would do more than Compress, not SC less. Should be Purge and Compact. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Zygmunt, A reminder of what Zygmunt Wereszczynski typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 01:14:41 GMT +0100 ZW Yes, I can confirm quite unusual and unpredictable display of hints. I ZW do not know what the option On request will do. After restart I see ZW no difference. In corner display is unusable for me. Near mouse ZW makes the hint window visible in very small size, and it expands when ZW the mouse is moved. Also when you first hover and get a hint it is small, but complete. If you expand it truncates the message. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 6:35:53 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Still getting the access violation if I 'arrow key' up and down though the folder list. The message is: Access violation at address 00A50C39 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . It does not happen as often or as 'easily' as it did in the .125 version, so that is =some= improvement. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:miked_...@verizon.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello MikeD, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 7:17:31 PM, you wrote: MM The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb500126.rar Still getting the access violation if I 'arrow key' up and down though the folder list. The message is: Access violation at address 00A50C39 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . It does not happen as often or as 'easily' as it did in the .125 version, so that is =some= improvement. Confirmed. Is it reported in the bugtrack? -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hallo Stuart, On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:41:10 -0600GMT (5-1-2011, 1:41 , where I live), you wrote: SC Should Purge and Compress not act like Compress alone and remove deleted SC messages. I would thing Purge and Compress would do more than Compress, not SC less. SC Should be Purge and Compact. 'Purge an compact' does more than 'Compact'. 'Compact' removes deleted messages from the message base, 'Purge and compact' deletes messages that exceed the maximum age or the maximum allowed number of messages and then compacts the folder. Why do think that 'Purge and compact' does less than 'Compact'? -- Groetjes, Roelof Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgprn1XkQLv3l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 8:17:39 PM, you wrote: 'Purge an compact' does more than 'Compact'. 'Compact' removes deleted messages from the message base, 'Purge and compact' deletes messages that exceed the maximum age or the maximum allowed number of messages and then compacts the folder. Why do think that 'Purge and compact' does less than 'Compact'? In an IMAP folder if you have deleted messages, when you compact the folder they are removed. If you Purge and Compact them they are not removed. Try it by turning on Folder/Browse Deleted Messages and you will see any messages that have been deleted with a stick through them.Then try Purging, and then try compacting. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hallo Stuart,
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:36:01 -0600GMT (5-1-2011, 3:36 , where I live),
you wrote:
'Purge an compact' does more than 'Compact'. 'Compact' removes deleted
messages from the message base, 'Purge and compact' deletes messages
that exceed the maximum age or the maximum allowed number of messages
and then compacts the folder.
Why do think that 'Purge and compact' does less than 'Compact'?
SC In an IMAP folder if you have deleted messages, when you compact the folder
they
SC are removed. If you Purge and Compact them they are not removed. Try it by
SC turning on Folder/Browse Deleted Messages and you will see any messages that
SC have been deleted with a stick through them.Then try Purging, and then try
SC compacting.
For my previous reply I had tested it for a POP3 account, but now I
tested it for an IMAP account (Inbox for my GMail account) and 'Purge
and compact' still works as advertised.
Only odd thing is that when TB is compacting only in stead of tellig
me how much space has been saved, it tells me that there's nothing to
compact. Somewhat confusing.
--
Groetjes, Roelof
Ask the Moderator, IF YOU DARE!! ;- {Muhahaha}
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The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA
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OTFE disabled
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4 GB RAM
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Re: 5.0.0.126
On Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 6:35:10 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: . I would thing Purge and Compress would do more than Compress, not less. what does it not do? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 8:36:01 PM, Stuart wrote: . If you Purge and Compact them they are not removed. cannot confirm this -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.126 BETA on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
Hello Roelof, A reminder of what Roelof Otten typed on: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 at 03:52:45 GMT +0100 RO For my previous reply I had tested it for a POP3 account, but now I RO tested it for an IMAP account (Inbox for my GMail account) and 'Purge RO and compact' still works as advertised. RO Only odd thing is that when TB is compacting only in stead of tellig RO me how much space has been saved, it tells me that there's nothing to RO compact. Somewhat confusing. I think I see the problem. It was a combination of settings in the Account properties and testing using the Trash account. Purging does not seem to affect deleted messages in this account, but Compact does. And yes the message saying nothing has been done is confusing. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! v5.0.0.126 BETA On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7600 Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.0.126
On Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:30:49 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: And yes the message saying nothing has been done is confusing. yes, that message makes no sense, and gives one concern nothing happened, when in fact the deleted messages have been removed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.0.125 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.0.126 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
