Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Hans Stam

> Oh, sure. I just saw that your above quote was created with AK
> Mail. No ballast such as reasonbable line breaks at quoting or
> honouring the signature delimiter... Thanks for your great example,
I
> think I'll stay with The Bat! for the time being.

A negative reply, pity! No ballast, I think the author means something
else..-))
Not the tons of features, I never use..
It is like Word, many features, but most people don't use them..

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Hans,

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:03:35 +0100 GMT (18/12/2008, 00:03 +0700 GMT),
Hans Stam wrote:

>> Well, I'm using Forté Agent already for many years, from version 1,
HS> but
>> only
>> as my default newsclient and, if nessesary, for private emailreply
HS> to a
>> news-contributor. At the moment I use version 4.2 with a valid key
HS> for the
>> upcoming v5. The support is OK, but the email part of it can't stand
HS> in
>> the
>> shadow of TB in my actual copy.

[...]
HS> Of course it depends on what you wish with an emailprogram. Most of
HS> the emailprograms has ton of features you never use.
HS> I have also the German emailprogram AK-Mail, http://www.akmail.com/
HS> On the site you can read: der email-client ohne ballast
HS> I like this filosophy! I never have problems with this program, it is
HS> fast too!

Oh, sure. I just saw that your above quote was created with AK
Mail. No ballast such as reasonbable line breaks at quoting or
honouring the signature delimiter... Thanks for your great example, I
think I'll stay with The Bat! for the time being.

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Jens Franik

am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 12:23 schrieb Gunivortus Goos:

> TB is as SMTP/POP3 mailclient IMO actual the top of the hill, that's why I 
> stick to
> it, not for some sentimental loyalty reason.

Exactly, while i think Forte is the same for Newsgroups (i recently used
it for that matter).

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Jens Franik

am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 07:58 schrieb Hans Stam:

>> Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite
>> of The Beta!

> You are right Arjan..we know indeed what we have to expect

,- [ http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php ]
| Free Agent
| 
| Forté has offered Free Agent for more than 10 years. With the release
| of Agent 4.0 we have decided to retire Free Agent and focus on providing
| Agent customers with exciting new features and timely upgrades.
`-

You dont know what you have to expect, if they switch to premium
customers support...

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread graham
A few months ago I went through this process and tried almost every email 
client out there. I came back to TB! for the following reasons
(a) Other applications were slower /more bloated on my netbook
(b) Other applications were usually missing features I'd become used to in TB!

The closest was Thunderbird, but it required so many add-ins to provide 
similar functionality that it slowed to a crawl. I'm hopeful that Thunderbird 
3 (when announced) will address these issues.

So  I'm staying with 4.0.x until I see the next Thunderbird release 
(Jan/Feb '09) and then I'll decide. I'm only a POP3 man so I'm not worried 
about these IMAP discussions. Previous participants are right - that TB! has 
been promising improved IMAP for years, and they have re-written it more than 
once.. so I'm not sure what elese they can do.

(I tried IMAP in Thunderbird - aand didn't see what the fuss was about... :)
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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Jens Franik

am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 19:28 schrieb Arjan de Groot:

> It has one major flaw. It tends to choke on retrieving when large
> amounts of mail are residing on my server. 500 or more I'd say. 
> But I've found a work-around for that problem. 

You can also use fetchmail with the Cygwin Enviroment ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-16 · 23:49 h (CET)]

Moin, Arjan!

>>Could you please be so kind and show me/us just one software, which
>>is finished, i.e. *no* further work/improvement is needed, and which
>>is completely bugfree, i.e. no further bugfixing/service packs are
>>required.

> Forte Agent is an example of such software.

And you want to to tell me that Forté Agent is completely bugfree? If
you say so, I believe it. ;-)

> Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite
> of The Beta!

So my advice for you is: Stick with Forté Agent and be happy! :-)

EOD

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Mackley
> we know indeed what we have to expect, click
> here:
> http://www.forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update

WOW ! Nested folders !!! :-D

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Hans Stam
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:50 +0100, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

> Forte Agent is an example of such software. On the Forte WWWebsite
> there is a roadmap. We know what we can expect in the next version.
> Beta testing is being done by a closed group of beta testers. And
> when version 5 will at last hit the main road we KNOW it will be a
> finished product without any easily discernable or obvious bugs.

> Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite
> of The Beta!

You are right Arjan..we know indeed what we have to expect, click
here:
http://www.forteinc.com/news/bulletin.php?id=agent50update

Hans

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:52:50 +0100, Volker Ahrendt wrote:

>>Let's just say The Beta! is an neverending nonstop piece of "work
>>in progress".

>… like nearly 100% of all the other software.

No, most software development is done step by step, feature by
feature, improvement by improvement.

>Just curious …

>Could you please be so kind and show me/us just one software, which is
>finished, i.e. *no* further work/improvement is needed, and which is
>completely bugfree, i.e. no further bugfixing/service packs are
>required.

Forte Agent is an example of such software. On the Forte WWWebsite
there is a roadmap. We know what we can expect in the next version.
Beta testing is being done by a closed group of beta testers. And
when version 5 will at last hit the main road we KNOW it will be a
finished product without any easily discernable or obvious bugs.

Development-wise, Forte Agent is the complete and absolute opposite
of The Beta!


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Volker Ahrendt
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-16 · 19:28 h (CET)]

Moin, Arjan!

>>2) The various releases are all "unfinished business as usual"

> Let's just say The Beta! is an neverending nonstop piece of "work
> in progress".

… like nearly 100% of all the other software.

Just curious …

Could you please be so kind and show me/us just one software, which is
finished, i.e. *no* further work/improvement is needed, and which is
completely bugfree, i.e. no further bugfixing/service packs are
required.

P.S.: RITLabs forces no one at gunpoint to buy a new version. If one
  does not agree with RITLabs product policy, he is free not to
  upgrade and to work with the previous version of The Bat! or to
  try another mail client [1]. It's up to you.

  »The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining
  armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos
  neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling
  second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.«

  Douglas Adams (* March 11, 1952; † May 11, 2001)

  [1] As you have already done, Arjan.

Cheers!
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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Rick
> Hello Arjan,


> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:28:30 PM, you wrote:

AdG>> The reason I'm still lingering on on the The Beta! lists is a
AdG>> mixture of nostalghia and curiosity.

> Nostalgia   can   be   very   dangerous.  It  might  lead to the wrong
> decisions.

> Take  for  instance  Wouter  Bos who thought it was a good idea to buy
> what  was  left  of  an old underperforming bank, judging it was worth
> putting at risk Benelux-solidarity and now will have to explain to his
> people  that  he  actually  wasn't  as  smart  as  he pretended to be,
> realizing  that  the  1  billion euro loss that showed up yesterday is
> only the beginning of the nightmare...

> :-)

I think I'll invest in Ritlabs instead ...

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Arjan,


Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:28:30 PM, you wrote:

AdG> The reason I'm still lingering on on the The Beta! lists is a
AdG> mixture of nostalghia and curiosity.

Nostalgia   can   be   very   dangerous.  It  might  lead to the wrong
decisions.

Take  for  instance  Wouter  Bos who thought it was a good idea to buy
what  was  left  of  an old underperforming bank, judging it was worth
putting at risk Benelux-solidarity and now will have to explain to his
people  that  he  actually  wasn't  as  smart  as  he pretended to be,
realizing  that  the  1  billion euro loss that showed up yesterday is
only the beginning of the nightmare...

:-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:06:03 -0500, Rick wrote:

>Would you kindly condescend to clarify something for my feeble
>intelect?
>1) You haven't used the bat in 4 years

I still have an old version (v2.12) on one of my computers. I'm
using it periodically with the purpose of archiving the e-mails
that have been collected by my mail server.

It has one major flaw. It tends to choke on retrieving when large
amounts of mail are residing on my server. 500 or more I'd say. 
But I've found a work-around for that problem. 

>2) The various releases are all "unfinished business as usual"

Let's just say The Beta! is an neverending nonstop piece of "work
in progress".

>WHAT are you doing here?

There has been a time, during versions 1.x, when I saw real
potential in The Beta! Version 2 would be a complete rewrite 
in C++ and IMAP would be implemented. So I still had my hopes.

The reason I'm still lingering on on the The Beta! lists is a
mixture of nostalghia and curiosity.


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Rick
> No, your reaction was very silly and also beside the point because
> I already stated that I had given up on The Beta! four years ago,
> and if you'd checked the headers of my message you would have seen
> that I'm using Forte Agent.

Um ... you are correct, I didn't think to examine your message
headers.
Would you kindly condescend to clarify something for my feeble
intelect?
1) You haven't used the bat in 4 years
2) The various releases are all "unfinished business as usual"

WHAT are you doing here?
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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:34:31 -0500, Rick wrote:

>Well Mozilla has bountiful forums in which to complain. My tongue was
>firmly planted in my cheek when I posted that BTW :))

No, your reaction was very silly and also beside the point because
I already stated that I had given up on The Beta! four years ago,
and if you'd checked the headers of my message you would have seen
that I'm using Forte Agent.

>There was supposed to be an upgrade fee for v4 and they pushed it back
>to v4.1. We are discussing bugs in a BETA forum (list) and people are
>complaining that the release is buggy. Uh .. YEAH!

To me all The Beta! versions are the same. Alfa versions, Beta
versions, Release Candidates, Releases... It's all the same old
unfinished bussiness as usual.


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Rick
> Hello Rick,

> Actually this should be discussed on TBOT...

> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:25 PM, you wrote:

R>> Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird? It's FREE. It
R>> has IMAP, FIlters and plugins so you can make it exactly the way you
R>> want it.

> But  be warned: the financing of these free products might well vanish
> due  to  the effect of the economic/financial crisis of which we have
> not seen the full impact yet.

Well Mozilla has bountiful forums in which to complain. My tongue was
firmly planted in my cheek when I posted that BTW :))

There was supposed to be an upgrade fee for v4 and they pushed it back
to v4.1. We are discussing bugs in a BETA forum (list) and people are
complaining that the release is buggy. Uh .. YEAH!

IF you don't want to deal with bugs, unsub from the beta list and go
back to the last stable release, or Thunderbird, or Pocomail or
whatever blows your dress up. Don't just stay here and toss out
disheartening comments to the Ritlabs developers who are working as
hard as they can to make it the best product out there. It not only
saps their strength, but really, it is JUST PLAIN RUDE

Ritlabs team - thanks for all you are doing

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Rick,

Actually this should be discussed on TBOT...

Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:40:25 PM, you wrote:

R> Why don't all you unhappy people move to Thunderbird? It's FREE. It
R> has IMAP, FIlters and plugins so you can make it exactly the way you
R> want it.

But  be warned: the financing of these free products might well vanish
due  to  the effect of the economic/financial crisis of which we have
not seen the full impact yet.

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Jens Franik

am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 12:11 schrieb MAU:

> point a real alternative for me ;-)

;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2008-12-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:07:53 +0100 GMT (31/10/2005, 05:07 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M> One last thing, in case you happen to know. Moons ago there was a
M> discussion in this list about 'irony' and 'sarcasm' but it isn't still
M> clear to me what the difference is. Do you know? I ask because I am not
M> sure if I wrote and ironic or sarcastic message :) In any case, it may
M> help some of you understand why I may seem to you as quite tolerant
M> with some TB bugs, the programmers, release issues, etc.

1. Your message mid:923795788.20051030230...@rancho-k.com threaded.
That's because I had parked your original message, to which I am
replying.

2. I think it is irony rather than sarcasm, but I'm no expert.

M> Thanks for your time :)

No problem. In fact, it was an enjoyable read, reminding us of why we
stick with this email client. Myself since 1999, v1.34 IIRC.

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-31 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU & everyone else,

on 31-Okt-2005 at 01:19 you (MAU) wrote:

>> Price varies between the professional and the home version.

> Is there an intermediate price for professionals who work at home? ;-)

There's even a price for homies working as professionals! No pun
intended... ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-31 Thread Martin Schuster
Hello MAU,

MAU risked a carpal syndrome while typing his first novel:

> I know some of you will be surprised with the subject of this messages
> but, yes, it says what it says.

[...]

> One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with
> this message, so don't bother to reply unless you really think you can
> point a real alternative for me ;-)

Brilliant :-) Someone really had to point that out. Nobody is pressed
to use TheBat, and those who do all have their reasons, I guess?

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Clive Taylor



I'll log a BT wish for TB to be able to send cold beers as attachments.
I'm sure RIT guys will implement this before a working IMAP ;-)


And with that remark you sum up neatly (elegantly, even) exactly the 
problem with TB's development. Cosmetics before foundation, walls before 
footings, cart before horse, butterfly before chrysalis etc etc.


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 6:19 PM, you wrote:

>> Price varies between the professional and the home version.

> Is there an intermediate price for professionals who work at home? ;-)

:)

If there isn't, there should be, providing the professional's name is
Miguel A. Urech.

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

> Price varies between the professional and the home version.

Is there an intermediate price for professionals who work at home? ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 5:08 PM, you wrote:

>> I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you:
>>
>> The Bat!, latest release version 3.62.
>>
>> Aren't you pleased? :)

> Do you know the price? Is it very expensive? I'd be willing to pay a
> couple of hundred $$ for such beast, but if the price is higher... ;-)

Well, it's worth a couple of hundred to me, too, and all I really want
it for is the NFS, the MicroEd, and, above all, the Message
Dispatcher.

Price varies between the professional and the home version.

Go here and see for yourself! :

www.ritlabs.com

I :love: my Bat!

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

> BTW I never bought you those beers.  :)

I'll log a BT wish for TB to be able to send cold beers as attachments.
I'm sure RIT guys will implement this before a working IMAP ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

> ... it sounds like TB is the perfect fit for you.
>
> Take care!

Did you read my second to last paragraph? Can you shed some light about
the difference between 'irony' and 'sarcasm'? ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread MAU
Hello Mary,

> I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you:
>
> The Bat!, latest release version 3.62.
>
> Aren't you pleased? :)

Do you know the price? Is it very expensive? I'd be willing to pay a
couple of hundred $$ for such beast, but if the price is higher... ;-)

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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Michael Paluchowski

Sunday, October 30, 2005, 11:07:53 PM, you wrote:

> One more last thing. I don't want to start any further discussion with
> this message, so don't bother to reply unless you really think you can
> point a real alternative for me ;-)

"But, my lord, there is no such force."


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mary Bull & everyone else,

on 30-Okt-2005 at 23:40 you (Mary Bull) wrote:

> I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you:

> The Bat!, latest release version 3.62.

I thought the same when I read the list of requirements. :)


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Re: Need help to find an alternative for TB

2005-10-30 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU!

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, 4:07 PM, you wrote:

> I don't want to start any further discussion with this message, so
> don't bother to reply unless you really think you can point a real
> alternative for me ;-)

I did read every word, and I have the perfect alternative for you:

The Bat!, latest release version 3.62.

Aren't you pleased? :)

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Mary
The Bat 3.62.07 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2







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