Re: auto-reply: setting priority
Hello Thomas, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 16:00:23 GMT +0800 (which was 12:00 AM where I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed: Hi Manfred, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:47:24 +GMT (05/12/2000, 15:47 +0800GMT), Manfred Ell wrote: ME How can I set the priority of an auto-reply message. I haven't found either ME an option in the action of the filter nor in the macros. You can set message priority in the filters under the Action tab (third from top). Um, does that change the *auto-response's* priority or the incoming priority? But there is always that undocumented macro %PRIORITY="xxx" Where xxx = High = Medium = Low -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message-IDs
Hello Stefan Schwandter, On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:29:18 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, December 03, 2000, 14:29:18 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Stefan Schwandter wrote: SS is there a way to stop TB! generating these ? Just curious... Why would you not want to create message IDs? Just curious... -- Jamie Dainton On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 at 08:15:56 The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Keep getting disconnected
I'm just trying out TB. I like it a lot, and will probably stay with it. However, I have found in the past few days since I started using it that I am often being disconnected from my dial-up session. I have checked the settings and I definitely do not have Auto-disconnect turned on. I did wonder if it was a time-out on my ISP (as it seems to happen when I haven't been using the web for a while), but one of my TB accounts checks mail every five minutes, and I used to have Eudora Pro checking every 10 minutes without ever being cut off. Any suggestions? Secondly, one thing I would really like to have is Reply to all Quoting selected text. Is there some way to do this? Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, Responding to your article on Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 04:03:53 GMT + (which was 05/12/2000 11:03 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : BC "For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP servers BC before you may send mail from an email client. To do this, your email BC client will need to download new messages before attempting to send BC messages. I found that yahoo.com support SMTP Auth as well (not MD5 actually, but it's OK). MDP snip BC The first step solved my problem. MDP It should be pointed out that TB supports POP before SMTP. Check the MDP "Authentication" button by the SMTP send options. And point out, The Bat! also supporting SMTP Authentication. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 16:55:17 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message-IDs
On 05 Dez 2000, you wrote in mailinglist.tbudl: Why would you not want to create message IDs? Just curious... i'd like to let hamster (http://home.knuut.de/tgl/own/hamtools.htm) generate them, with my own domain as the right part of the mid. actually i do already (there's an option within hamster to overwrite the original mid). i just wanted to know if there's a configuration option for tb!... thanks -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
Hi Marck, On Monday, December 04, 2000 @ 03:58:31 +, you wrote the following about "Using TB! to scan Digest Mode" Marck [...] If you MIME forward a bunch of messages (see "Account Marck Preferences -- Forward -- Use MIME standard" option) to Marck yourself, you will receive them as a "MIME digest". Have a look Marck at that and you'll understand, I'm sure. [...] I actually had/have a use for this experiment but couldn't find Account Preferences - Forward - use MIME standard. Is this available on the current TB! version? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 05 December 2000 at 08:01:56 -0500 (which was 13:01 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: Marck [...] If you MIME forward a bunch of messages (see "Account Marck Preferences -- Forward -- Use MIME standard" option) to Marck yourself, you will receive them as a "MIME digest". Have a look Marck at that and you'll understand, I'm sure. [...] JRI actually had/have a use for this experiment but couldn't find JRAccount Preferences - Forward - use MIME standard. ^ Templates - Sorry. I omitted the full path to the option. JRIs this available on the current TB! version? Oh yes - for a long while now. I find it less than convenient in that location since it is something one would need to toggle on/off more frequently than a "preference" option. Some things need MIME forwarding; most don't. It would be far better as a more accessible option during or immediately before message composition. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Consultant Software Engineer ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] COLE'S LAW: Thinly sliced cabbage -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOizqCTnkJKuSnc2gEQI5gwCgpocFQsg7J5EYgDfbCjxo9HPOpKoAn2XH 0qC3PzPPbJD4qVrnOyZZoNBd =TDIw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
Hi Marck, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 13:13:45 +, you wrote the following about "Using TB! to scan Digest Mode" Marck [...] I find it less than convenient in that location since it Marck is something one would need to toggle on/off more frequently Marck than a "preference" option. Some things need MIME forwarding; Marck most don't. It would be far better as a more accessible option Marck during or immediately before message composition. [...] Marck, thanks for your quick reply; I found it tried it now can see what MIME format can do. Trouble is, when would it *not* be a good option to use what would it look like? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 05 December 2000 at 08:43:16 -0500 (which was 13:43 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points: JRMarck, thanks for your quick reply; I found it tried it now can JRsee what MIME format can do. Trouble is, when would it *not* be a JRgood option to use what would it look like? When forwarding a joke or news item or any other simple plain text "snippet", the last thing the recipient want is to open an attachment to look at it. (BTW: Can someone tell AOL users that, please?) When forwarding a message complete with headers or a bunch of messages, MIME forwarding is perfect. Each message appears as a complete and exact copy of the original and as an attachment or a group of attachments. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Consultant Software Engineer ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] Headline - Include your Children when Baking Cookies -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOiz2wDnkJKuSnc2gEQJEWwCgxGfnEOdya9pGxUGEGTs/uPbf/eIAn0NF oh8fWEOivgocLCUD30YA72X4 =j8dm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
Hi Marck, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 14:08:00 +, you wrote the following about "Using TB! to scan Digest Mode" Marck When forwarding a joke or news item or any other simple plain Marck text "snippet", the last thing the recipient want is to open an Marck attachment to look at it. [...] When forwarding a message Marck complete with headers or a bunch of messages, MIME forwarding Marck is perfect. Each message appears as a complete and exact copy Marck [...] Got it. Thanks; I try to learn something new every day. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode + more on sovling ISP copy numberproblems
Hello Marck other fellow TB! Users, (A 2 theme message) Monday, December 04, 2000, you stated regarding: MDP Actually, to be fair, one cannot "index" a digest unless it is MDP HTML, DH I'm not sure that's true...I could ...send the header info w/ DH the index part of the text... MDP The index isn't actually interactive then. No. MDP It... [is] a summary of message subjects at the top of the MDP digest with the messages laid out to follow. The obvious advantage to doing that are twofold: 1).- The recipient knows the content at a glance; and 2).- He/she can ctrl+f on a string from the subject summary and go right to it. With TB!, a memo, color flagging, priority or parking (or any combination) could highlight digests containing material of interest. Can this be implemented using MDaemon? If so, what would the overhead be, compared the benefit given digest subscribers? (i.e, would it be worth implementing). MDP ... use MIME digest format. DH Could you explain that (or point to a reference)? MDP Sure. If you MIME forward a bunch of messages (see "Account MDP Preferences -- Forward -- Use MIME standard" option) to yourself, you MDP will receive them as a "MIME digest". Have a look at that and you'll MDP understand, I'm sure. Thanks... MDP The "Messaging Server" is the relevant component. We use MDP MDaemon. It ... gives us full control and accessibility. Over MDP and above that it is capable of running ISP level e-mail MDP provision services under the Win family OS. MDP I use the same software here to handle the silverstones.com MDP email requirements, which includes multiple mailboxes for the MDP whole family and some friends, collection and forwarding MDP services for other friends and several private mailing list for MDP product support and team working. snip - moved below MDP Although MDaemon is a superb all-rounder, the list-server engine, MDP while being excellent at the mechanics of maintenance and MDP distribution, has shortcomings in its digest implementation. MDP Just as Word, Word-perfect and AMI all perform similar word MDP processing functions but each lacks something the other may MDP handle with ease (I'm guessing here, so don't ask me to MDP substantiate this). True. There are always tradeoffs overall preferences, along w/ product paradigm familiarity, the cost of retraining and personal policies (i.e. not using M$ products more than necessary). MDP We are unlikely to change software. Both Syafril and I are committed MDP to MDaemon and are an integral part of the Beta team for the software. Fine. But can a "summary of message subjects at the top of the digest with the messages laid out to follow" be inserted w/o undue difficulty using it? (i.e., could a macro extract the subject headers and place them at the beginning)? the other theme: MDP ... my local MDaemon *is* my ISP SMTP server. I haven't tried send many copies using Telmex (prodigy.net.mx) but HAVE had problems sending messages from SOME accounts, using either the prodigy.net.mx smtp server or that of the account (which not all have. One account's support staff sent their beta smtp server info, which works just fine). So this means that once connected via his ** ISP, perhaps Randy could use the smtp server of another email account provider with with he's opened an account (many good ones are free these days that are POP3/IMAP4 based have no ads, give good server storage space, have their own smtp servers and would permit more copies to be sent at once than his ** ISP does), to send his multiparty messages. (He'd have to try to to find out). So some account's smtp servers work w/ prodigy.net.mx as ISP, others simply don't and are using only for reception. (Some can be verified via a browser, others only using the backup ISP, which in my case requires reconfiguring and rebooting). Telmex is a very poorly organized company and it was impossible to actually talk to someone there about this (I was given numerous 800 phone numbers that don't work), but did manage to get an email address for a supervisor that evidently improved the situation for a couple of domain's smtp servers. The time spent accomplishing this is the problem - but their 16 nodes in Mexico + plus those of Prodigy USA make Telmex unbeatable for someone with activities in the places I do, until MCI-Worldcom ATT catch up. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)
Hallo Jan, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 08:43:16 -0500 GMT (05/12/2000, 21:43 +0800 GMT), Jan Rifkinson wrote: JRMarck, thanks for your quick reply; I found it tried it now can JRsee what MIME format can do. Trouble is, when would it *not* be a JRgood option to use what would it look like? Any forwarded mail looks like an attachment, and you have to click on it to open it. Now, if you have ever received a message that was forwarded and forwarded and forwarded ... again by 27 people who use MIME forwarding, you end up clicking 27 times on attachments before you can see the original message the whole fuss is about (usually a lame joke). So, when you forward a message, MIME forwarding is usually *not* a good option. OTOH if you want the recipient to see the full original header of an incoming message to track down a particular problem with the display of an email client, then you need to MIME forward; otherwise the headers will not be preserved. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Lost: small apricot poodle. Reward. Neutered. Like one of the family. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail
Hello Melissa other fellow TB! Users, Monday, December 04, 2000, you stated: MCB ... I checked all those three, and they seem to be fine. The MCB Bat! does receive before trying to send, I do have the Yahoo! MCB address as the From address for that account, MCB and if my ISP is blocking outgoing mal servers, that's news to MCB me. I can certainly check on it, though. Did you try using the ISPs own smtp server as the outgoing server? (That sometimes works). Also, IMO there are better free email account providers than yahoo. DH -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which header line sets Created date/time?
On Monday, December 04, 2000, 8:50:47 PM, Karin wrote: I've checked and re-=checked, but I can't find anything in the headers that warrents a wrong creation date. BTW, just to be sure, you do mean the "created" date, right? If it's the "received" date, then it's another matter. Creation date, yes. Here's one of the faulty headers: [example snipped] In folder view, it reports 01 december 2000 as its creation date (that is actually the date that I imported the message), while its actual creation date is 07 June 2000. I'm afraid it's beyond me. I copied the example, pasted it into my editor, and saved it as a .msg file. I then double clicked on the .msg file, and TB showed an empty message with 07 June 2000 as the creation date! I imported it into a folder, and again it showed the right creation date in folder view. I've no idea why it would show the wrong date at your end. :( Did you copy the header from the original Eudora .mbx file, or from within TB? (I'm trying to decide whether the Macintosh file format is at play here, since the message was originated from a Mac system. But it shouldn't be, for 1) TB should convert it fine when importing from Unix mailbox format, and 2) otherwise there should be other header fields missing.) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which header line sets Created date/time?
On 05-12-2000 at 15:58, Ming-Li kindly wrote: On Monday, December 04, 2000, 8:50:47 PM, Karin wrote: I've checked and re-=checked, but I can't find anything in the headers that warrents a wrong creation date. In folder view, it reports 01 december 2000 as its creation date (that is actually the date that I imported the message), while its actual creation date is 07 June 2000. Here's one of the faulty headers: [example snipped] I'm afraid it's beyond me. I copied the example, pasted it into my editor, and saved it as a .msg file. I then double clicked on the .msg file, and TB showed an empty message with 07 June 2000 as the creation date! I imported it into a folder, and again it showed the right creation date in folder view. I've no idea why it would show the wrong date at your end. :( Neither do I Did you copy the header from the original Eudora .mbx file, or from within TB? From the original Eudora .mbx file. (I'm trying to decide whether the Macintosh file format is at play here, since the message was originated from a Mac system. But it shouldn't be, for 1) TB should convert it fine when importing from Unix mailbox format, and 2) otherwise there should be other header fields missing.) The header looks fine to me. But not to TB :-( - K - -- When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment. - Warren Farrell, American psychologist -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
New message notification
Hello Batters, Whenever I get new Mail (or to be more precise, when I have unread Mail anywhere) the bat flaps its wings in the system tray. I'd like an option (on a per folder basis) whether or not the bat should indicate unread mail by flapping. I check mail every 10 minutes. I get lots of mails from mailinglists which I don't consider that urgent that I open The Bat immediately (of course not talking about The Bat lists) and read them. But not doing that I don't know when a new important message arrives. If I could say that in this folder the bat shouldn't flap and in the other that it should I could use the flapping as an indicator for mail I consider important. I know I can already do this with the MailTicker and the sounds, but I use the tray-animation only. What do you think? -- CaLViN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows NT 5.0 Service Pack 1 Build 2195. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
Hi CaLViN, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 17:38:35 +0100, you wrote the following about "New message notification" CaLViN [...] Whenever I get new Mail (or to be more precise, when I have CaLViN unread Mail anywhere) the bat flaps its wings in the system CaLViN tray. I'd like an option (on a per folder basis) whether or CaLViN not the bat should indicate unread mail by flapping. [...] As an alternative you can set your eMail ticker to only show msgs that are filtered to certain folders. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)
Hi Thomas, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 22:14:54 +0800, you wrote the following about "Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)" Thomas Any forwarded mail looks like an attachment, and you have to click on Thomas it to open it. Now, if you have ever received a message that was Thomas forwarded and forwarded and forwarded ... again by 27 people who use Thomas MIME forwarding, you end up clicking 27 times on attachments before Thomas you can see the original message the whole fuss is about (usually a Thomas lame joke). [...] Thomas OTOH if you want the recipient to see the full original header of an Thomas incoming message to track down a particular problem with the display Thomas of an email client, then you need to MIME forward; otherwise the Thomas headers will not be preserved. Yes, thank you. And my use was to group a series of emails on one subject together to forward to archive. It seems to work well for that, too. Now it'll just be a matter of remembering the option when I want it remembering where to find it. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: New message notification
CaLViN [...] Whenever I get new Mail (or to be more precise, when I have CaLViN unread Mail anywhere) the bat flaps its wings in the system CaLViN tray. I'd like an option (on a per folder basis) whether or CaLViN not the bat should indicate unread mail by flapping. [...] JRAs an alternative you can set your eMail ticker to only show msgs JRthat are filtered to certain folders. Jan .. although the 'ticker' is a cute feature, for me it just becomes an annoyance. It would be nice to have TheFlap respond to folders Love those Bouviers -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.48 Beta/8 ` ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: New message notification
Hi David, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 09:17:55 -0800, you wrote the following about "New message notification" David It would be nice to have TheFlap respond to folders true David Love those Bouviers true -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Which header line sets Created date/time?
Hello ztrader, Sunday, December 03, 2000, 5:54:36 PM, you wrote: z I'm getting some strange "Created" dates (in 2026) The only time I have actually encountered this was after restoring my system from a crash that messed up my partitions. If memory serves, the restore software was Tiramisu that, while restoring lost files, datestamped some of them (even folders) with 2026. So maybe the sender uses a similarly restored system (and didn't go to the trouble of correcting the date stamps). -- Best regards, István -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
Hello Marck other fellow TB! Users following this thread, Tuesday, December 05, 2000, you stated regarding what MIME format can do when it would *not* be a good option to use: MDP When forwarding a joke or news item or any other simple plain text MDP "snippet", the last thing the recipient want is to open an attachment MDP to look at it. (BTW: Can someone tell AOL users that, please?) I rarely "forward" anything. I usually use redirect. If desired, a note can be added. Can you think of anything inconvenient about that? MDP When forwarding a message complete with headers or a bunch of MDP messages, MIME forwarding is perfect. Each message appears as a MDP complete and exact copy of the original and as an attachment or a MDP group of attachments. If redirecting is a good substitute for forwarding, the latter could be left configured for occasions appropriate for mime applications until a way to toggle mime forwarding off and on is implemented. Opinions? DH -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, On 05 December 2000 at 12:58:20 -0600 (which was 18:58 where I live) Douglas Hinds wrote and made these points: DH I rarely "forward" anything. I usually use redirect. If desired, a DH note can be added. Can you think of anything inconvenient about DH that? Well, yes. Here's an analogy: "Forwarding" allows you to put a message into a new envelope of your own when sending it on to a friend. You are in full control of any enclosures or extra notes on the message. Redirecting means crossing out the original address on the original envelope and possibly scrawling on the flap :-). MDP When forwarding a message complete with headers or a bunch of MDP messages, MIME forwarding is perfect. Each message appears as a MDP complete and exact copy of the original and as an attachment or MDP a group of attachments. DH If redirecting is a good substitute for forwarding, Not IMHO. DH the latter could be left configured for occasions appropriate for DH mime applications until a way to toggle mime forwarding off and on DH is implemented. DH Opinions? I'm happy to use it the way I do right now, cumbersome though that may be. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Consultant Software Engineer ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] Chemistry professors never die, they just smell that way! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOi1AiTnkJKuSnc2gEQISFwCgsMva5PB98ULeNPA1toCZCHppFX0An2W0 iwiOnYMUzMxXtdQ0WAZMbORs =IRRX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-reply: setting priority
On 05-12-2000 at 00:19:07GMT -0800 (which was 8:19 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote regarding the subject of "auto-reply: setting priority" You can set message priority in the filters under the Action tab (third from top). JA Um, does that change the *auto-response's* priority or the incoming JA priority? It changes the priority of the incoming message not the created one. JA But there is always that undocumented macro JA %PRIORITY="xxx" JA Where xxx = High JA = Medium JA = Low That's what I needed! Why is this stuff not in the help file Regards -- Manfred using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 Bother! said Pooh, as he pulled the 5th AOLer out of his honey pot. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, at 12:53:01 h [GMT -0500] you wrote this about "New message notification": JR Hi David, JROn Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 09:17:55 -0800, you wrote the JRfollowing about "New message notification" David It would be nice to have TheFlap respond to folders What about a different sound for the important folders of yours? Wouldn't that help as it is not possible to customize "TheFlap" (by now?) ? - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi1GGgdigFw4jOv/EQKXCACg9yeSdHIMK5el4dvYFQMpqtuIaXkAnR7A RakHac2Ee0QlFu5wVL1w1ok4 =VAHo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: New message notification
David It would be nice to have TheFlap respond to folders KJ What about a different sound for the important folders of yours? KJ Wouldn't that help as it is not possible to customize "TheFlap" (by KJ now?) ? Yes .. i can (and do) do that now BUT it would be nice if my computer made less beeps, burps etc. It would just be nice to have that little bat flap .. no noise .. no ticker taking over the screen thanks -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.48 Beta/8 ` ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, at 11:56:14 h [GMT -0800] you wrote this about "New message notification": DTS Yes .. i can (and do) do that now BUT it would be nice if my computer DTS made less beeps, burps etc. LOL DTS It would just be nice to have that little bat flap .. no noise .. no DTS ticker taking over the screen I know what you mean... I don't like the ticker anyway... very disturbing little thing, if enabled. You get my vote for your purpose as I don't hear anything from my computer's noises as I'm playing those mp3 all day long. Would be great to have that customized little bat flap. - -- Best regards, Kari Jakobi The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A To obtain my PGP-Key send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP-KEY_REQUEST -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0 Comment: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? iQA/AwUBOi1LvQdigFw4jOv/EQIJlgCeM0IozCIf4MdZc3Ijz8agVys2qroAoPSc 2O8pHP5+qJrt7lXvpjpTJvkL =9hKK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
On 05-12-2000 at 11:56:14GMT -0800 (which was 19:56 where I live) David Tod Sigafoos wrote regarding the subject of "New message notification" DTS It would just be nice to have that little bat flap .. no noise .. no DTS ticker taking over the screen Hello David Tod, I've been longing for this one also. Of course it's only a minor annoyance with so many wishes to fulfil. Regards -- Manfred using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 "Love the sinner but hate the sin." -- St. Augustine -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-reply: setting priority
Hello Manfred, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 19:32:14 GMT + (which was 11:32 AM where I live) witnesses say Manfred Ell typed: JA But there is always that undocumented macro JA %PRIORITY="xxx" JA Where xxx = High JA = Medium JA = Low That's what I needed! Why is this stuff not in the help file Beats me. This one would only be found if you sifted through all the release notes for the 1.4x series... -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
Hi CaLViN, Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 4:38:35 PM, you wrote: C If I could say that in this folder the bat shouldn't flap and in the C other that it should I could use the flapping as an indicator for mail C I consider important. I know I can already do this with the MailTicker C and the sounds, but I use the tray-animation only. C What do you think? I agree whole-heartedly! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05 December, 2000, 3:29 PM, I saw Thomas's comments made on Tue, 5 Dec 2000 22:14:54 +0800, and thought I'd add my $0.02 worth: JRMarck, thanks for your quick reply; I found it tried it now can JRsee what MIME format can do. Trouble is, when would it *not* be a JRgood option to use what would it look like? TF Any forwarded mail looks like an attachment, and you have to click on TF it to open it. Now, if you have ever received a message that was TF forwarded and forwarded and forwarded ... again by 27 people who use TF MIME forwarding, you end up clicking 27 times on attachments before TF you can see the original message the whole fuss is about (usually a TF lame joke). With Pegasus Mail, if you double click the MIME attached message while holding down a key (I forgot which), it will drill down to the original message avoiding you having to open all the attachments. This I found to be amazingly useful when needed and hope the Ritlabs guys will look into it at some point. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ '...I'm sorry, Reality is not in service at this time.' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/9 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOi1Qu1fJ62ArBxfiEQLFJACfdtggHUeMAVeWfjyvEAFjTi2nVKwAoKET 6Y6LqaotHjkVK1r+j+IJt4xG =bdb5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
Ref Subject: New message notification From: CaLViN Hi CaLViN, C I know I can already do this with the MailTicker and the sounds, C but I use the tray-animation only. A little "work around" I use since I also can find the ticker distractive at work is size the ticker to it's smallest possible size (height width), then grab it and shove it into a corner mostly off the screen so only a tiny portion shows. Then if you pick only your important mail to show on it, when a message comes in you get a discreet little black box appearing in the corner of your screen. Just a suggestion. -- ò¸ó Nick [MUA: TB! 1.48 Beta/9] Danger [OS: Win98 4.10 1998] ["All the world's a game, and we are niggly bits"©] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Starting to crash
Just as I was thinking I must register it I've had problems twice this evening. Once it shut down while sending with a message about no parent window, and once I had a problem with a folder which it managed to correct (nice, but made me nervous) -- sorry, I didn't write down the problem in time, it may have been something to do with a thread. I know this isn't terribly useful, but I had thought it was more stable than it is. At least it doesn't take forever to get rebuilt the way Calypso did, but I worry about losing the message base. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-reply: setting priority
On 05-12-2000 at 12:24:12GMT -0800 (which was 20:24 where I live) Januk Aggarwal wrote regarding the subject of "auto-reply: setting priority" JA Beats me. This one would only be found if you sifted through all the JA release notes for the 1.4x series... Hello Januk, Just check my post on the TBBeta forum under the Re: The Bat! - suggestion sent ... I'd like to sign a petition to Ritlabs. Perhaps if we join our voices they will hear ;-) Regards -- Manfred using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 "I could be chasing an untamed ornithoid without a cause." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Starting to crash
On 05-12-2000 at 20:26:10GMT + (which was 20:26 where I live) Doug Weller wrote regarding the subject of "Starting to crash" DW I know this isn't terribly useful, but I had thought it was more DW stable than it is. DW At least it doesn't take forever to get rebuilt the way Calypso did, DW but I worry about losing the message base. Hello Doug, I don't know, which version you're using but if it's a beta you've got to be careful and do your regular backups. I do mine every 2hrs with 2ndCopy (keeping the last 7 versions of each ThBat file!) Having said this I can say that TheBat never destroyed my data in the approx 12 months I've been using it (using every beta there is). It crashed a few times but I wouldn't call it unstable. Before I've used and bought Calypso (which destroyed my data twice before I dumped it) and Eudora (which became the most bloated email on earth). Don't let the crashes keep you from buying TheBeta. It's worth every penny in comparison to others. (Now if they would update those help files!) Regards -- Manfred using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 Shh! Be vewy qwiewet! I'm hunting wuntime ewwors. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Starting to crash
DW Just as I was thinking I must register it I've had problems twice this DW evening. Once it shut down while sending with a message about no DW parent window, and once I had a problem with a folder which it managed DW to correct (nice, but made me nervous) -- sorry, I didn't write down DW the problem in time, it may have been something to do with a thread. Of all the things I don't like about TB .. stability isn't one of them. This possibly the most stable sw I have used in a long time. Even the betas have been very stable (well there was one back there a little weird. What is your configuration? What else is running when TB is running? What new sw have you put on. Questions Questions Questions -- DSig David Tod Sigafoos mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.48 Beta/8 ` ( O O ) ___oOOo__( )__oOOo___ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
Hello Marck other fellow TB! Users following this thread, Tuesday, December 05, 2000, you stated regarding my saying: DH I rarely "forward" anything. I usually use redirect. If desired, a DH note can be added. Can you think of anything inconvenient about DH that? MDP Well, yes. Here's an analogy: "Forwarding" allows you to put a message MDP into a new envelope of your own when sending it on to a friend. You MDP are in full control of any enclosures or extra notes on the message. Redirect also allows that. You can edit. Sometimes I do that with messages that need cleaning up or reformatting, before putting them in the outbox and moving them back to the inbox (or where ever). (I have asked for the ability to edit received messages for quite some time). MDP Redirecting means crossing out the original address on the original MDP envelope and possibly scrawling on the flap :-). Scrawling? MDP When forwarding a message complete with headers or a bunch of MDP messages, MIME forwarding is perfect. Each message appears as a MDP complete and exact copy of the original and as an attachment or MDP a group of attachments. Yes but you have to reconfigure to do that - unless you redirect for things that don't need mime forwarding - that way you can leave the forwarding template set to mime. DH If redirecting is a good substitute for forwarding, MDP Not IMHO. I still fail to see your reasoning. DH the latter could be left configured for occasions appropriate for DH mime applications until a way to toggle mime forwarding off and on DH is implemented. DH Opinions? MDP I'm happy to use it the way I do right now, cumbersome though MDP that may be. OK, Marck D. Your happiness is important to all of us. Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:New message notification
Hello CaLViN, On 05 December 2000, CaLViN wrote and made these points on the subject of "New message notification": C Whenever I get new Mail (or to be more precise, when I have unread C Mail anywhere) the bat flaps its wings in the system tray. I'd like an C option (on a per folder basis) whether or not the bat should indicate C unread mail by flapping. Why don't you run an external programme that will pop up whenever you receive mails from selected recipients? I have converted a gif file into an exe file and have set a filter to trigger it every time I receive emails from someone. Works beautifully and is not annoying. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
On 05-12-2000 at 02:04:56GMT +0400 (which was 22:04 where I live) Assad Toorab wrote regarding the subject of "New message notification" AT Why don't you run an external programme that will pop up whenever AT you receive mails from selected recipients? I have converted a AT gif file into an exe file and have set a filter to trigger it AT every time I receive emails from someone. Works beautifully and AT is not annoying. Hello Assad, Now this is a good and original idea! Can you recommend the image2exe program? Regards -- Manfred using TheBat 1.48 Beta/9 on Windows 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1, RC 1.1 I think therefore I am...dangerous. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: New message notification
Hi Assad, On Tuesday, December 05, 2000 @ 02:04:56 +0400, you wrote the following about "New message notification" Assad Why don't you run an external programme that will pop up whenever Assad you receive mails from selected recipients? I have converted a Assad gif file into an exe file and have set a filter to trigger it Assad every time I receive emails from someone. Works beautifully and Assad is not annoying. Maybe its possible to use the Bat animation assuming RTL would give you permission for this. That would solve the whole thing, wouldn't it? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:New message notification
Hello Manfred, On 06 December 2000, Manfred Ell wrote and made these points on the subject of "New message notification": ME Now this is a good and original idea! Can you recommend the image2exe ME program? Sure. I use a programme called "Animated Screen". It is a shareware though and is the only programme of this sort I could find on the net. The best part of it is that you can make your animations transparent and it executes nicely on the screen when triggered. Check it at http://www.pysoft.com. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:New message notification
Hello Jan, On 06 December 2000, Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points on the subject of "New message notification": JR Maybe its possible to use the Bat animation assuming RTL would JR give you permission for this. That would solve the whole thing, JR wouldn't it? The Bat animation need to be in an exe format. -- Best regards, Assad Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, On 05 December 2000 at 15:16:21 -0600 (which was 21:16 where I live) Douglas Hinds wrote and made these points: MDP Well, yes. Here's an analogy: "Forwarding" allows you to put a MDP message into a new envelope of your own when sending it on to a MDP friend. You are in full control of any enclosures or extra notes MDP on the message. DH Redirect also allows that. You can edit. Sometimes I do that with DH messages that need cleaning up or reformatting, before putting DH them in the outbox and moving them back to the inbox (or where DH ever). (I have asked for the ability to edit received messages for DH quite some time). But that's a completely different operation from forwarding. MDP Redirecting means crossing out the original address on the MDP original envelope and possibly scrawling on the flap :-). DH Scrawling? Yes - although I did mean it slightly "tongue-in-cheek" - hence the smiley. Forwarding is an honest-to-goodness "here's something I received which may interest you". The Subject is changed to Fwd: to clearly show that it is *not* the original message. The text is quoted and formatted according to a forwarding template. There is no pretence that the message containing the forwarded text is the original. It is a message *from me* *to you* which contains information *about and from someone else*. Redirection is *not* that, nor does it have the same purpose. Redirection is what you do to a message to move it on to another individual, usually without change and usually intact. The only thing that changes in the message is the To: address and some routing headers. To put it in the same language as I used to describe a "forwarded" message, A re-directed message ends up as a message *from someone else* *to you* in which I am only mentioned vaguely in the routing headers. As for changing anything within a re-directed message ... well, it seems somehow "dishonest" to me. If the post-office changed the contents of a message that they were re-directing I'd never trust them again! Forward and Redirect are *not* for the same thing. MIME forward allows you to do something else again beyond the definition of either of these. I don't dispute that you use re-direct the way you do, but it's bad netiquette IMHO. You should use text Forward to share information from a text message with someone, MIME forward to show a complete message to someone and redirect to move a message on when it is of interest to someone other than you. DH If redirecting is a good substitute for forwarding, MDP Not IMHO. DH I still fail to see your reasoning. Have I explained my reasoning in any clearer a manner now (above)? I'm not saying "it's the law", just my HO and the way I see it. DH OK, Marck D. DH Your happiness is important to all of us. LOL and so it should be! ;-). - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.48 Beta/9 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOi17XTnkJKuSnc2gEQKZTQCg3jEuoppzSkplzbZBjKTPLWDbonwAoMNl qj2oR1V5dVQOh67BzLs2C2LT =cxI0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Text wrap
Hi TBUDL, Is there some key or way of reformatting a received message so I can read it. I receive e-mails from people that have their wrapping at 100! Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2000 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: New message notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi dsig, On 05 December 2000 at 11:56:14 -0800 (which was 19:56 where I live) David Tod Sigafoos wrote and made these points: DTS .. no ticker taking over the screen g I just couldn't resist: http://www.silverstones.com/takeover.jpg The ticker *can* be tamed. And it is *so* useful. Each to his own, I guess. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.48 Beta/9 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOi1+4TnkJKuSnc2gEQL+SACg6Uv3Pa+j/Q9uGE7e+7FwwKb9vlQAnRiP NSbIHaxeCXal3t/p5uEEAo3r =FH7A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Text wrap
12/5/2000 at 7:12 PM s Hi TBUDL, s Is there some key or way of reformatting a received message s so I can read it. Don't I wish... grin. There isn't a way to reformat received messages while you are reading them. The work-around is to copy (or drag) the message to an "outbox" folder and edit it there. To reformat a paragraph while the message is in the outbox, place the cursor in the offending section of text and press alt-l (to left justify) or alt-r... I keep dreaming of a toggle that would allow this to happen with out the gymnastics... -- Thanks -Nick+ (The Rev.) W. Nicholas Knisely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trinity Episcopal Churchwww.trinitybeth.org Bethlehem, PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -"Time files like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." --Groucho Marx -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ISP limits number of recipients to 10...
On 04-12-2000 at 02:37, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote: Douglas Hinds wrote and made these points: DH However, not all ISPs are born equal ... describing such goings on DH is "***" and the term often used to describe those who do this DH is "". Both terms refer to parts of the human anatomy that are DH not generally exposed publicly. I don't speak the language myself but your explanation of these terms reveals that, were they translated to English, the words I have censored above would almost certainly be considered "bad". The first word is really rather innocent: "pendejada" means "stupidity". The second one I'll only translate off list, knowing the list's rules. - K - -- 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' - Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Saving Message in a Folder
Is there any macro expression that I can place in a template will let me create a new message in a folder and upon sending, let it -remain- in that folder? I don't care if it winds up in the sent folder also, but I'd like a copy to remain where created. Thanks... -- I'm looking forward to baseball season. I always sit in General Admission, and I take my Uncle Bob with me so he can save my seat, because nobody wants to sit next to a dead guy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.ne.mediaone.net/phred13 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Editor status line (was: Re: Starting to crash)
Hello Doug, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 23:15:26 GMT + (which was 3:15 PM where I live) witnesses say Doug Weller typed: Hm, what do the things in the status bar at the bottom mean? Right click on them and see what happens... Caret position, Cursor position: column:line message modified, Fairly obvious... stream?, When you select text, how should TB select blocks...try the three settings and see what happens. I use column mode when replying to someone whose quote prefix is much too long. insert, Fairly obvious, right? a green bat? Message priority and confirmation receipt status, right click on it to change. account name, Right click on it to change accounts. and none? Right click to change character set. I'm not sure why "None" is default. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Saving Message in a Folder
Hello Fred, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 21:33:21 GMT -0500 (which was 6:33 PM where I live) witnesses say Fred Weissman typed: Is there any macro expression that I can place in a template will let me create a new message in a folder and upon sending, let it -remain- in that folder? As far as I know, no. You need to create outgoing filters to do this. I would find this facility very useful. There are several situations I can think of where filters are not appropriate. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.48 Beta/9 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a PIII 550MHz with 192 MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)
Hi Allie, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:31:55 -0500GMT (06/12/2000, 04:31 +0800GMT), A . Curtis Martin wrote: TF Any forwarded mail looks like an attachment, and you have to click on TF it to open it. Now, if you have ever received a message that was TF forwarded and forwarded and forwarded ... again by 27 people who use TF MIME forwarding, you end up clicking 27 times on attachments before TF you can see the original message the whole fuss is about (usually a TF lame joke). ACM With Pegasus Mail, if you double click the MIME attached message while ACM holding down a key (I forgot which), it will drill down to the original ACM message avoiding you having to open all the attachments. This I found to ACM be amazingly useful when needed and hope the Ritlabs guys will look into ACM it at some point. Wouldn't this mean you don't see any comments someone might have made in the line? Not all MIME forwards are jokes, you see. I've received business emails MIME forwarded, and it is in fact important to see whether the third receipient (and mail-forwarder) made a comment, or the seventh. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Text wrap
Hi syv, On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:37:33 -0800GMT (06/12/2000, 07:37 +0800GMT), syv wrote: s Is there some key or way of reformatting a received message s so I can read it. s I receive e-mails from people that have their wrapping at s 100! I am not sure the software Bat can help you here, nor the biological namesake. A hardware bat, such as those used in American ballgames on diamon-shaped fields, applied properly to the senders of such mails, would be worth a try, though. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Binhex 4.0?
Is The Bat not able to decode Binhex 4.0 attachments? I suspect many of the files I receive are in this format (but I've never before had to worry about what format I'm receiving attachments in). If The Bat can't handle them itself, is it possible to make a filter to detect these attachments (presumably by a search for "Binhex 4.0" in the message body) and automatically send the attachment to Aladdin Expander, and have the decoded attachment saved in the correct attachment folder? How do I do this? Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mime Forwarding (was: Using TB! to scan Digest Mode)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 12:12:06 +0800, Thomas Fernandez thoughtfully wrote the following: ACM With Pegasus Mail, if you double click the MIME attached message ACM while holding down a key (I forgot which), it will drill down to ACM the original message avoiding you having to open all the ACM attachments. This I found to be amazingly useful when needed and ACM hope the Ritlabs guys will look into it at some point. TF Wouldn't this mean you don't see any comments someone might have made TF in the line? Not all MIME forwards are jokes, you see. Thanks. I didn't know that. :=) Actually I wasn't thinking of Jokes alone. I personally don't receive only jokes MIME forwarded multiple times. TF I've received business emails MIME forwarded, and it is in fact TF important to see whether the third receipient (and mail-forwarder) TF made a comment, or the seventh. Well, in those cases, you manually drill down to the original message. Remember that I said you open the first MIME attached message holding down a particular key and it will drill down to the original message. If you don't hold down the key, things will happen as in TB!. - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ 'I'm not tense, just terribly A*L*E*R*T!!' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/9 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOi3tyFfJ62ArBxfiEQKsggCeLEgkOXbeqoir3XBUDQXOQYPyMFkAnjJf aH3MVSzOTNn06kklrpQ9qfiV =14Gu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Starting to crash
Hi David, Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 9:19:16 PM, you wrote: DTS Of all the things I don't like about TB .. stability isn't one of DTS them. This possibly the most stable sw I have used in a long time. DTS Even the betas have been very stable (well there was one back there a DTS little weird. DTS What is your configuration? What else is running when TB is running? DTS What new sw have you put on. The only change is that I've added the Google toolbar to IE5. Otherwise it's the same as it has been over the past 17 days when I've had no problems. Thanks. Hm, what do the things in the status bar at the bottom mean? Caret position, message modified, stream?, insert, a green bat? account name, and none? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
