Re: Mail Lists

[RL Autry]

At 02:00 AM 7/19/2001, you wrote:
>Would Hamster be a choice?

Do you mean "HappyHampster"?
I did a search for just Hampster and came up with that.

If not please give me a url so I can check it out.


Thanks,
RL

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Re: Sorting feature

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 8:37:13 PM you wrote:

>   Have you considered using the 'memo' function? I've found it quite
>   useful in a similar situation tho creation dates are not an issue
>   for me.

Hmm, how do you mean?

The principal sorting for me is by descending date (call me anal
retentive or unimaginative). I park messages so they can't be deleted
by accident. And here comes the exception for sorting - since
sometimes current queries have to be "saved" for a few days, and
during these days I get a registration code message, which should be
parked.

I should add that it is not a great problem, just a minor annoyance.

Please, clarify what you do with the Memo field.



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Re: RFC2231 bug?

[Thomas F]

Hi Kåre,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:21:13 +0200GMT (18/07/2001, 21:21 +0800GMT),
Kåre H. Tornes wrote:

KHT> Use TheBat v1.53d here in Norway, and have problems when receiving
KHT> attacments that have filename with the Norwegian characters "ÆØÅ".
KHT> They get very strange names, and the .doc ending is gone.

I do *not* confirm your problem. I receive attachments with Chinese
file names, and they are received OK.

Please send me (off-list) a message with a attachments that has
Norwegian characters, and I will take a look.

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Re: wierd

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Gergely!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 2:34:37 AM you wrote:

> Maybe someone has an explanation for this? :)

Did you inadvertently set a filter, or change something in a filter,
for incoming mail? check your sorting office.


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Re: Mail Lists

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello RL!

On Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 6:15:47 AM you wrote:

> So we would like to know if TB can be set up to receive
> and organize e-mail as though it was a newsreader (thread based)
> by subject and manage and view it as a newsreader would

this can easily be done. TB! has a threaded view, configurable to
thread by Subject, From, To or Reference.

> click on the plus and the replies drop down from the main subject posted

Yes. Downside with TB! (compared to Agent): Every message shows the
subject line in the list.

> watch certain (subjects) threads

In the sense Agent does it: No. But if you keep the messages of a
certain thread and get a new message for it, the whole thread will
show up "unread", so you instantly know "you have new mail".

> download and review just headers
> instead of the entire mail then choose to delete or download
> ect.

Again, not the way Agent does it (off-line capability). There is a
feature called Mail Dispatcher with which you can inspect the messages
on the POP server; it can also delete messages. But only on-line.

> for people who subscribe to alot of email lists this is really time saving
>   or if you know has anyone come up with a program that can?

Would Hamster be a choice?



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Re: Mail Lists

[Karin Spaink]

On 19-07-2001 at 06:15, RL Autry kindly wrote:

> So we would like to know if TB can be set up to receive
> and organize e-mail as though it was a newsreader (thread based)
> by subject and manage and view it as a newsreader would
>   a newsgroup posting such as:

> click on the plus and the replies drop down from the main subject posted

Certainly. Set view for that particular folder - I do
suppose that you filter your mail based on particular
mailing lists - on "View threads by reference" and you're
done.

> watch certain (subjects) threads

Now *that* is something I would like to see, too. Agent has
this nice capacity of allowing filters to expire, and I've
often pondered that something like this would be useful in
TB.

RL yes, you can automatically mark certain subjects and
assign them a colour, for instance; check the sorting office
for that. The only downside is that when the thread has
died, you need to manually delete the filter. Agent's
solution for this is commendable.

> download and review just headers
> instead of the entire mail then choose to delete or download

You can do that via the mail dispatcher; but since that
forces TB to first download all headers and then forces you
to review them manually and/or apply filters, that could
become an awkward and time-consuming task.


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Mail Lists

[RL Autry]

Hello everyone:

We would like to know if TB has our answer.

Right now we use Eudora Pro and Pegasus and they don't hold the answer.

Back Ground:
1) We subscribe to many lists associated with webdesign, coding, ect.
(seems like more all the time not less.)

2) We receive about 2500 messages a day avg right now according to Eudoras' 
Statistics as a result.

3) Most of which we choose to read according to subject and then delete
on mass at the end of the week or month.

As you know:
News readers are actually set up better to categorize by thread
watch specific threads and so forth better than a mail reader is.

We could subscribe to many of these lists as a Newsgroups instead,
to have the added functionality (and did for a while) but the only
problem being we really don't want to fight even more spam off of the Internet.
Lists are bad enough today it seems. Newsgroups much worse.

So we would like to know if TB can be set up to receive
and organize e-mail as though it was a newsreader (thread based)
by subject and manage and view it as a newsreader would
  a newsgroup posting such as:

click on the plus and the replies drop down from the main subject posted

watch certain (subjects) threads

download and review just headers
instead of the entire mail then choose to delete or download
ect.

for people who subscribe to alot of email lists this is really time saving
  or if you know has anyone come up with a program that can?

If so we will happily change over to TB, thanks for your time.

Thanks,
RL

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Re[2]: Launch URL keyboard shortcut?

[Erik]

Hi David,

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, at 01:30:19 [GMT +0200] you wrote in the message:

> Hello Erik,

> On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 09:37:06 -0400, Erik [E] wrote
> concerning 'Launch URL keyboard shortcut?':

E>> Would anyone happen to know if there is a keyboard shortcut to
E>> launch the url's in messages?

> How would TB! know which URL to open when there are multiple URL's in
> a message?

Perhaps TB! could parse the url's one at a time, similar to Forte
Agent.  Or maybe moving the cursor to the url and pressing enter, or
some other key combination.  Anyway, it was just a thought.  It just
seems odd to have to use the mouse just for launching url's, while
many other things are accessible from the mouse along with the
keyboard.

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wierd

[Gergely Vandor]

Hello TBUDL listers,

I've recently made a clean install of Win98SE and the latest TB. I set
TB to keep messages on the server. To my surprise, a friend of mine
started receiving my incoming messages in her Hotmail account! The
headers of these messages contained me as the sender, and my name
appeared just the way I set it in this clean install of TB (I gave
only my nickname).

My comp seems to be virus free. I can only blame TB, since the headers
contained info (my nickname as sender's name) only TB knew. Once
again, this happened after a clean install, with just about everything
set to default.

Maybe someone has an explanation for this? :)

Cheers,

Gergely


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Re: Launch URL keyboard shortcut?

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Erik,

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 09:37:06 -0400, Erik [E] wrote
concerning 'Launch URL keyboard shortcut?':

E> Would anyone happen to know if there is a keyboard shortcut to
E> launch the url's in messages?

How would TB! know which URL to open when there are multiple URL's in
a message?

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Re[2]: TB! won't download messages when configured for Norton AV 2001

[Andrew John Preater]

Hello Jim,

Tuesday, July 17, 2001, 1:15:38 PM, you wrote:

JaCT> I think you've got the username part wrongyou wrote;
JaCT> "angelcake/pop.myrealbox.com"leave the "pop" out, just put
JaCT> angelcake/myrealbox.com and see if that helps.

Thanks for your advice - I've tried it out and the same thing happens as
before, I get this ...

!18/07/2001, 22:15:26: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands
sent were: "LIST", "RETR 1")

When I try to receive mail.  I've snipped the "pop" from myrealbox's
server name but it seems to make no difference.  I also have an email
account at www.zworg.com, who's POP server is simply "zworg.com", when I
try TB! + NAV2001 with this account, the same thing happens, so I don't
think this is the cause of my problem ...

So does anyone have any other ideas?

Cheers.

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ctrl-] and the ticker in 1.53

[Jerry McRae]

Hi,

  I recently updated from 1.47 to 1.53, and the ^-] "go to next unread"
  feature no longer works for messages in the 'ticker'.  I see from
  reading the messages that the ^-] now works in the main screen.  This
  is great, but I hardly ever use that screen -- I depend on my filters
  and the ticker.  Is this an omission?  Or is there another keystroke
  that I can use?
  
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400Mhz P-II, 384meg memory, AT&T@Home connection


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Re: Spacebar

[Avenarius]

A Bat-fellow, Mars Descent,
wrote on Tuesday, July 17, 2001 at 06:53:49 (GMT -02-30),
which was 8:52 a.m. in Bratislava --

MD> A thread doesn't read well at all backwards [using spacebar].

What I miss is the option to move backwards using the spacebar as well
as forwards. Couldn't SHIFT+SPACEBAR (or, better still, ALT
GR+SPACEBAR) be used to navigate the message list upwards, while
SPACEBAR would continue to navigate it downwards?

Until something like this is implemented, the navigation of messages
in the Bat will remain uncomfortable for me, inferior to Forte Agent,
Pegasus, the Opera mailer, or even Outlook.

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Re: can't print

[Karin Spaink]

On 18-07-2001 at 09:20, Richard Stephens kindly wrote:

> I have a Stylus Color 640.  I also had no problem printing with the
> v1.53d but what happens is that it is impossible for me to scroll
> through or select certain mail messages even after having opened them.
> I had to close the program and then reopen it and go directly to the
> message that did not want to open.  It would open the first time and
> then after that it was impossible to see it again.  And this happened
> with messages that came from the same person... some would open and
> some would not.

Hey! That sounds *exactly* like the problem I have with TB
on my laptop, with html-mail. I can also only see them when
I close and re-open the program; then, the first one will
open but the second one simply won't. And if I work a bit
and then go back to that first opened (html) message, I
can't read that one any more either.

Do you also see *nothing*? No headers, no source, zilch?

> And that happens to me with every version upwards from 1.49 ... and it
> is unexplicable unless you are sitting here next to me to see it.  My
> friend who recommmended TB to me and lives from teaching and repairing
> computers cannot understand it or believe it.

When I explained my problem here the other week, there were
no suggestions either.



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Re: Launch URL keyboard shortcut?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Erik,

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 09:37:06 [ -0400 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Launch URL keyboard shortcut?':

Erik> Would anyone happen to know if there is a keyboard shortcut to
Erik> launch the url's in messages?  I know I can double click the url, but
Erik> I would like to use the keyboard if possible.

  I looked thru the shortcut list & didn't see anything.

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Re: Problems opening certain messages in version beyond 1.49 (was: can't print)

[Karin Spaink]

On 18-07-2001 at 11:20, Thomas F kindly wrote:
> Richard Stephens wrote:

RS>> I will be happy to explain what happens in minute detail if anyone
RS>> wants to listen

> Port wide open. Status: listening. ;-)

I'll add. I have the same problem. With html mails only (as
you might recall. I posted about it last week.)


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Re: Sorting feature

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Dierk,

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 15:05:58 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Sorting feature':

Dierk> [...] It would be very helpful, if I could have an option to sort by two
Dierk>   criteria: First parked messages and then the others, and in those
Dierk>   categories by creation date descending. [...]

  Have you considered using the 'memo' function? I've found it quite
  useful in a similar situation tho creation dates are not an issue
  for me.

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Re: TXT import

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Marck!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 3:46:38 PM you wrote:

> Then try the import again. That will fix it. (sorry - should have
> remembered that).

It worked, should have thought of it myself. But, well, with all what
happened the last 18 hours concerning my computer - with me ending up
to low-level-format one of my hard-drives (the primary partition with
my system!) -, I'm glad something works at all.

Thank you!

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Re: TXT import

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Dierk,

On 18 July 2001 at  14:57:28 +0200 (which was 13:57 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:

DH> OK, I cut out the header info from TB!'s export job (the one's you
DH> see above and it's footer line, which looks like the dividing line
DH> above. then I tried to import them through "Import Messages/UNIX".

DH> And now guess what TB! imported, and why I write again ... Correct "O
DH> messages imported".

DH> I'm sure the mistake lies on my side, but can't pin it down, yet.

Add this line at the top of the text file:

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Feb 19 23:57:14 2001

Then try the import again. That will fix it. (sorry - should have
remembered that).

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Launch URL keyboard shortcut?

[Erik]

Hello TBUDL,

  Would anyone happen to know if there is a keyboard shortcut to
launch the url's in messages?  I know I can double click the url, but
I would like to use the keyboard if possible.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

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RE: IMAP?

[Browning, Karl]

From: Jim and CJ Tinkle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I just started using the Bat, and I'm impressed.  The only thing so
> far I seem to be having troubles with is IMAP.  I set up one of my
> work accounts as an IMAP account, and while it shows checking, logging
> on okay, etc, I never receive any email.  This works fine in Outlook.
>  Any ideas?

I have IMAP accounts also. The only way I have seen to get your messages is
through the Message Dispatcher. Account|Dispatch Mail On Server|All Messages
or Shift+Ctrl+F2 will start it. Or if you have the congiuration toolbars
visible, you can press the top button.

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Sorting feature

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  I just stumbled on a specific sorting scheme I really like to have
  in TB!:

  Some very important messages - i.e. e-mailed registration numbers,
  or confirmations (order and assignment) - I want to keep. So I park
  them. All of my folders are sorted by creation date, earliest first.
  Most of the time this works quite fine.

  But not with my Support folder, where I have support related mails,
  from registrations to current affairs.

  It would be very helpful, if I could have an option to sort by two
  criteria: First parked messages and then the others, and in those
  categories by creation date descending.

  And i know of other measures to keep valuable registration or other
  codes safe - I even use some of them. For a quick glance it is much
  better to have the original messages in TB! handy (For instance,
  once a week I have to look up my customer's number for my web
  hosting service. It's much easier to look up the e-mail than to
  decode my PGP encrypted TXT file with all its passwords and codes
  stored safely.).


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RFC2231 bug?

[Kåre H. Tornes]

Hi!

Use TheBat v1.53d here in Norway, and have problems when receiving
attacments that have filename with the Norwegian characters "ÆØÅ".
They get very strange names, and the .doc ending is gone.

According to a friend of mine that uses KMail, the problem is that
TheBat, and other email-clients like Outlook, Eudora, doesn't follow
section 4 in the RFC2231 spesification.
See http://rfc.net/rfc2231.html

Someone have a solution to this?

Best regaards

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Re: TXT import

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Marck!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 2:16:01 PM you wrote:

>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>> From:E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To:  Skeptics Society <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 11:57:14 PM
>>> Subject: E-SKEPTIC: MORE ON NO-MOONIES
>>> Files:   
>>> --===--

> ^^^ remove this

> Import this as "Unix mailbox" V

OK, I cut out the header info from TB!'s export job (the one's you see
above and it's footer line, which looks like the dividing line above.
then I tried to import them through "Import Messages/UNIX".

And now guess what TB! imported, and why I write again ... Correct "O
messages imported".

I'm sure the mistake lies on my side, but can't pin it down, yet.

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When you say, "I'm sorry", look the person in the eye.

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IMAP?

[Jim and CJ Tinkle]

I just started using the Bat, and I'm impressed.  The only thing so
far I seem to be having troubles with is IMAP.  I set up one of my
work accounts as an IMAP account, and while it shows checking, logging
on okay, etc, I never receive any email.  This works fine in Outlook.
 Any ideas?

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Re: TXT import

[Marck D Pearlstone]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hi Dierk,

On 18 July 2001 at  13:47:57 +0200 (which was 12:47 where I live)
Dierk Haasis wrote to David van Zuijlekom and made these points:

DH> No, just tried.

DH> Here is the beginning of the first message in the TXT:

>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> From:E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To:  Skeptics Society <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 11:57:14 PM
>> Subject: E-SKEPTIC: MORE ON NO-MOONIES
>> Files:   
>> --===--

^^^ remove this

Import this as "Unix mailbox" V

>> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> X-Flags: 
>> Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Received: (qmail 22217 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2001 04:51:18 -
>> Received: from luna.lyris.net (216.91.56.10)
>>   by mx0.gmx.net (mx09) with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 04:51:18 -
>> From: E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Message-ID: 
>
>> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:57:14 -0800
>> Subject: E-SKEPTIC: MORE ON NO-MOONIES
>> To: "Skeptics Society" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> List-Unsubscribe: 
>> Reply-To: E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> X-Modified-Forwards: 1A.inbox
>> X-UIDL: 2048d049ac5909e8fd7fcb211bf7300c
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> E-SKEPTIC FOR FEBRUARY 19, 2001
>> Copyright 2001 Michael Shermer, Skeptics Society, Skeptic magazine, e-Skeptic
>> magazine. Permission to print, distribute, and post with proper citation and
>> acknowledgment. We encourage you to broadcast e-Skeptic to new potential
>> subscribers. For newcomers to e-Skeptic you can subscribe for free: just send
>> an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: TXT import

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello David!

On Wednesday, July 18, 2001 at 12:30:30 AM you wrote:

> Hmmm... Does the txt file include the headers?

Yes.

> If so you can import it as Unix mailbox format.

No, just tried.

Here is the beginning of the first message in the TXT:

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> From:E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  Skeptics Society <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:Monday, February 19, 2001, 11:57:14 PM
> Subject: E-SKEPTIC: MORE ON NO-MOONIES
> Files:   
> --===--
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Flags: 
> Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 22217 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2001 04:51:18 -
> Received: from luna.lyris.net (216.91.56.10)
>   by mx0.gmx.net (mx09) with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 04:51:18 -
> From: E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: 
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:57:14 -0800
> Subject: E-SKEPTIC: MORE ON NO-MOONIES
> To: "Skeptics Society" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> List-Unsubscribe: 
> Reply-To: E-Skeptic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Modified-Forwards: 1A.inbox
> X-UIDL: 2048d049ac5909e8fd7fcb211bf7300c
>
>
>
>
> E-SKEPTIC FOR FEBRUARY 19, 2001
> Copyright 2001 Michael Shermer, Skeptics Society, Skeptic magazine, e-Skeptic
> magazine. Permission to print, distribute, and post with proper citation and
> acknowledgment. We encourage you to broadcast e-Skeptic to new potential
> subscribers. For newcomers to e-Skeptic you can subscribe for free: just send
> an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only thin I added are the quotation signs.



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RE: Spacebar

[Browning, Karl]

From: Januk Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Historians believe that Tue, 17 Jul 2001 at 06:53 GMT -02-30 was when,
> Mars Descent [MD] typed the following:
> 
> MD> No matter how I've tried to sort it, I keep finding it reads 
> MD> backwards.  Must be a way to change the Read direction.  
> A thread doesn't 
> MD> read well at all backwards.  You start with the story 
> ending.  And 
> MD> eventually make your way to the beginning.
> 
> Do you double click the message before reading?  If so, you have to
> select the sort order from that window.  Goto View -> Sort
> 
> The sort order of the list in the main TB window is independent of the
> sort order in the window of an open message.  In the open message, you
> can check the list order by selecting View -> Message List

I am having a similar problem, when I use the spacebar, it jumps from one
message to the next independent of the sort order. I am not double-clicking
on the message though, just reading it in the preview pane.

Testing The Bat! 1.53d on a Pentium III 566 running (if you want to call it
that) Windows ME.

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Re: Checking several mail accounts...but not all!

[Michal Kozusznik]

Hello Marck,

Wednesday, July 18, 2001, 12:26:28 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> Set their accounts to 'Ignore "Check all accounts" requests' and turn
> off that option for your account. Then use the "Check all accounts"
> option and it will only check your two accounts. That should do it for
> you.

Yep.  But  what  is  there  to do, if her son will wants to have a few
accounts  and  wants  to  check  them all with one click? I think, The
possibility of getting mails for all accounts, being loged to specific
one, is a serious bug.
The same with unable to use multiple TB! accounts grouped in the
Groups with multiple Windows accounts.

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Problems opening certain messages in version beyond 1.49 (was: can't print)

[Thomas F]

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:23:23 +0200GMT (18/07/2001, 15:23 +0800GMT),
Richard Stephens wrote:

RS> I will be happy to explain what happens in minute detail if anyone
RS> wants to listen

Port wide open. Status: listening. ;-)

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Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53l
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on a Pentium II/350 MHz.

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Re[2]: can't print

[Richard Stephens]

Hello Lars,

Tuesday, July 17, 2001, 9:13:07 PM, you wrote:

Lars> Hi Matt,
Lars> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, at 16:17:22 -0400 you wrote:

MC>> I had this exact problem a few versions ago when I first had The Bat
MC>> on a trial-basis. This is my second trial-basis, and so far I've had
MC>> no printing problems with v1.53d of The Bat and my Epson Stylus
MC>> Color 760.

Lars> As I said, it was fixed around the days of the 1.51 betas (IIRC???). So,
Lars> if Richard could upgrade, his problem would be gone. My suggestion is,
Lars> we focus on why Richard *cannot* upgrade. If that problem can be solved
Lars> he will also regain the ability to print.

Hey, that sounds like a great idea!!!  I am a total TB nut and
recommend it to everyone.  Nobody but me seems to have this problem.
And it is driving me crazy

I will be happy to explain what happens in minute detail if anyone
wants to listen

Best regards 
Un saludo de Richard
www.wine-from-spain.com
www.lagamella.com

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Re[4]: can't print

[Richard Stephens]

Hello Matt,

Tuesday, July 17, 2001, 10:17:22 PM, you wrote:

Matt> Richard,

Matt>   I had this exact problem a few versions ago when I first had The
Matt>   Bat on a trial-basis.   This is my second trial-basis, and so far
Matt>   I've  had  no  printing problems with v1.53d of The Bat and my Epson
Matt>   Stylus Color 760.
Matt>   If you don't mind telling me, what Epson are you using?

I have a Stylus Color 640.  I also had no problem printing with the
v1.53d but what happens is that it is impossible for me to scroll
through or select certain mail messages even after having opened them.
I had to close the program and then reopen it and go directly to the
message that did not want to open.  It would open the first time and
then after that it was impossible to see it again.  And this happened
with messages that came from the same person... some would open and
some would not.

And that happens to me with every version upwards from 1.49 ... and it
is unexplicable unless you are sitting here next to me to see it.  My
friend who recommmended TB to me and lives from teaching and repairing
computers cannot understand it or believe it.


Matt> --
Matt> Best regards,
Matt>  Matt
Matt>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
RS When I hit the print icon on the tool bar, the print dialog for my
RS printer comes up but when I hit OK the dialog box disappears and
RS nothing more happens. Looks like the command is not getting to my
RS printer. Do I have something configured wrong?? I can't find the
RS solution in Help or on faqs.



Best regards 
Un saludo de Richard
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www.lagamella.com

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