Re: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Marck.

At 5:59 PM on Monday, November 26, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'ATT: Marck re: filtering
attachement extensions':

Marck name=.*\\.scr'

Marck is the regexp equivalent. '.' is a regexp meaning any
Marck character, '*'
Marck means zero or more of the preceding character (or wildcard
Marck special
Marck character) and '\.' is the regexp for a real 'dot'.

  Thanks for explaining.

Marck The problem is that the lower headers are not deemed by
Marck filtering to
Marck be a part of the kludges. Nor are they visible as a part of
Marck the
Marck body. So filtering is tricky.

  As you, yourself, discovered, its not only tricky but
  seems non-operational. I don't understand why TB! can't
  filter 'kludges' or 'anywhere' but not in this area. Or is
  it that the 'content' info revealed by (F9) are the
  'headers' exclusively for the attachment? In trying to
  understand this, can I assume 'kludges' only refer to
  information that appears before the message? And if that's
  true, what is this attachment header area called?

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Re[2]: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Gerard de Vries

Hi Jan,

I am not an expert but this is area is part of the mime structure. A
silly suggestion, but have you tried searching in TEXT assuming this
info follows the kludges and the text in the email.

Regards,
Gerard

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Re: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Gerard,

On 27 November 2001 at 14:13:52 [GMT+0100] (which was 13:13 where I
live) Gerard de Vries wrote to Jan Rifkinson and made these points:

GdV I am not an expert but this is area is part of the mime
GdV structure. A silly suggestion, but have you tried searching in
GdV TEXT assuming this info follows the kludges and the text in the
GdV email.

I've tried and it doesn't work :-(.

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Re: Keep Msg on Server for xxx Days!

2001-11-27 Thread Tom . Anderson

Hi Eddie,

maybe someone sent these messages to you with incorrect
creation date. If you change system time on your system to oct.22nd and send
an email to yourself you should be able to see if this is what happened.
(Don't forget to set the system time back)

I got this idea because there is a difference between the date when someone
sends an email from his system (dependes on the time that is set there and it
may be wrong! normally it is on the same or on the following day.) and on
the other hand the date when the email is received by your email server.

Tom

EC On my account Properties I've set under Transportation | Mail
EC Management to Radio Button to 'Leave Messages on Server' and ticket
EC 'keep msg on server for xx days' to the Value of 30 Days.

EC Now I see on my Server that I have almost 5000 mails  where several
EC are from Oct 22. and the next from Nov. 9.

EC I know that once all my mails on this Server have being deleted so
EC this explains the gap between Oct. 22. and Nov. 9.

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Re: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 27 November 2001 at 07:48:32 [GMT-0500] (which was 12:48 where I
live) Jan Rifkinson wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points:

Marck The problem is that the lower headers are not deemed by
Marck filtering to be a part of the kludges. Nor are they visible
Marck as a part of the body. So filtering is tricky.

JR   As you, yourself, discovered, its not only tricky but seems
JR   non-operational. I don't understand why TB! can't filter
JR   'kludges' or 'anywhere' but not in this area. Or is it that the
JR   'content' info revealed by (F9) are the 'headers' exclusively
JR   for the attachment?

It's because they fall into a grey area. They are not headers
because headers precede the message body. They are not body because
they come after the real message body in a kind of let's start again
area.

JR   In trying to understand this, can I assume 'kludges' only refer
JR   to information that appears before the message? And if that's
JR   true, what is this attachment header area called?

I don't know the specific name of these areas but they should be
included in a search of Anywhere IMHO.

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Re: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Marck.

At 8:26 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 you wrote the
following on the posted subject 'ATT: Marck re: filtering
attachement extensions':

JR   In trying to understand this, can I assume 'kludges'
JR only refer
JR   to information that appears before the message? And
JR if that's
JR   true, what is this attachment header area called?

Marck I don't know the specific name of these areas but
Marck they should be included in a search of Anywhere
Marck IMHO.

  You would think so. Has this been pointed out to the
  programmers?

  Thinking outloud: As TB! recognizes these attachment
  extensions -- as in virus warning -- one would assume it
  would be fairly simple to hook it. ??

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Re: ATT: Marck re: filtering attachement extensions

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jan,

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:04:38 -0500 GMT (27/11/2001, 22:04 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR   You would think so. Has this been pointed out to the
JR   programmers?

I think not. Somebody ought to write a bug report.

JR   Thinking outloud: As TB! recognizes these attachment
JR   extensions -- as in virus warning -- one would assume it
JR   would be fairly simple to hook it. ??

Yes. I believe it's just an oversight.

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The Bat! - bug report: Attachment names and extensions not found by filters

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas F

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54/10
  Serial Number 49B7D17A
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A 
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:

  When I want to filter on attachment extensions, TB does not find
  them, even if I let it search Anywhere. What I am referring to are
  the lines below the message, after the boundary. Example from a
  message sent to me with an xls attachment (cP'ed from the Source
  Viewer F9):

QUOTE
[most headers snipped]
Content-Type:?multipart/mixed; boundary==_D08A1C3B.59385525
Content-Length:?64460
Status:? O

--=_D08A1C3B.59385525
Content-Type:?text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding:?quoted-printable
Content-Disposition:?inline

encl. plse find our updated FCL-Buying-Ratesheet Fareast.

best regards

  
--=_D08A1C3B.59385525
Content-Type:?application/octet-stream; name=FCL-Buying-Ratesheet.xls
Content-Transfer-Encoding:?base64
Content-Disposition:?attachment; filename=FCL-Buying-Ratesheet.xls

0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAABWgAA
EAAA/v///wD+AFkAAAD/
[snip]
UNQUOTE

  Steps to reproduce the bug:

  Create a filter that should find the string .xls in location
  Anywhere, which should move any matching message to a temp folder.
  Send yourself a message with an attachment test.xls. The filter
  does not move the message.

Regards,
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Three redundant options?

2001-11-27 Thread Alastair Scott

Just noticed - what do Folder | Browse (and Account | Refresh Folders) and
Folder | Refresh do that is useful?

Folder | Browse appears to open the currently highlit message, which is
pointless from the menu bar as there are are several more sensible ways of
doing this, and the second two appear to do nothing at all - I don't even
see the tell-tale flicker of something being refreshed.

I appreciate that the second two might have some sort of meaning in
multi-user situations, but with a single user they seem to be redundant.

Alastair




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copying AB addy

2001-11-27 Thread jan

Hello TBUDListers.

   Is there a way of copying an email address from the AB
   w/o going into properties to do it?

   TIA

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Re: Three redundant options?

2001-11-27 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Alastair,

On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 15:00 GMT -, a creature mimicking
Alastair Scott [AS] wrote:

AS Folder | Browse appears to open the currently highlit message, which is
AS pointless from the menu bar as there are are several more sensible ways of
AS doing this,

Maybe, but in my opinion, anything that has a shortcut should also
have a menu entry.  I usually discover functions in a program by
looking at the menus, not by trying every possible shortcut.

AS and the second two appear to do nothing at all - I don't even
AS see the tell-tale flicker of something being refreshed.

They're useful when using the options under View - Display.  To
remove the display filters, you simply refresh the list.

By the way, you can quickly apply display filters by pressing ALT
while clicking on one of the columns in the message list pane.  Suppose
you ALT-click on the From field of this message, then only messages
from me would appear in your message list.  It is very convenient when
trying to find a message quickly.


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Address book: group and default list

2001-11-27 Thread Joseph N.

In the address book, there is a default grouping under Personal
Address Book, and then there can be various groups.  If one makes an
individual a member of a group, then his/her listing disappears from
the default Personal Address Book, i.e., the main listing.  How can
one make someone a member of a group while also leaving the name in
the big list?


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Re: Address book: group and default list

2001-11-27 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Joseph,
On Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:34:10 [GMT -0600], you wrote:

JN If one makes an individual a member of a group, then his/her
JN listing disappears from the default Personal Address Book, i.e.,
JN the main listing.  How can one make someone a member of a group
JN while also leaving the name in the big list?

Have a look at the group's properties, deactivate Hide items if not
explicitly selected.

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Help with an spoiled Address Book

2001-11-27 Thread Javier Marcet

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Hi The Bat! mates,

  Yesterday,  while  fiddling  around  with  LDaemon  (an  LDAP server
integrated  in  MDaemon's  SMTP/POP/IMAP server), I configured my main
Address Book as associated with a LDAP server. It was that way before,
only  that it was incorrectly set up, thus not being able to establish
actual  connections  with  the  LDAP  server.  Yet,  when  I  got  the
configuration  right,  all  my  addresses (together with my beloved AB
templates)  were  gone. I quickly disabled the LDAP connection, but my
addresses  were  still  not  there.  I  then  opened  the .ADB file in
a  text  editor and could see that the old addresses were still there.
Whatever  I  did to the AB's configuration, though, I couldn't recover
my old entries.

  I  still  have  this (seemingly too late) backed up .ADB with all my
entries inside. Is there any way to recover them?

  Should I write directly to the RIT guys directly?

  Any  help will be MUCH appreciated, sine I do not want to go through
the  hassle of setting up all my mailing lists, relatives and friends'
templates :-\


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New undesirable behavior

2001-11-27 Thread Yuki Taga

All:

W2K Pro -- TB 1.53t.

Seemingly out of nowhere, TB no longer polls my pop3 server when I
open it when there is no connection active.  It does summon the
dialer, as it always has, but it does not poll the server, and there
is no download.  Once the connection establishes, F2 causes an
immediate poll and download, as it should.  If I open TB when there
is an active connection already established, behavior is normal (poll
and download).  I am sure this is new behavior, where I have to
initiate a poll via F2 when a new connection is established, but I
cannot account for any system configuration change that might have
caused this. Advice  counsel sought.  :)

Best,

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my first bat bug!..

2001-11-27 Thread Mrten

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... or actually, my second, since i noticed that search-problem as
well.

i just tried to reply to a message that contained a '-- ' halfway the
message, and the reply quoted no further then there. i know that this
is the 'official' signature delimiter, yes. it was a preview of an
email i should comment on.

selecting all text and pressing ctrl+f4 gave the same results.

my reply-template is fairly simple:

Om %OTIME op %ODATE, %OFROMNAME:
%Cursor
%quotes
%singlere%-

is there an option/macro somewhere that i overlooked?

Mrten.

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Re: New undesirable behavior

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas F

Hi Yuki,

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:49:47 +0900GMT (28/11/2001, 06:49 +0800GMT),
Yuki Taga wrote:

YT Seemingly out of nowhere, TB no longer polls my pop3 server when I
YT open it when there is no connection active.  It does summon the
YT dialer, as it always has, but it does not poll the server, and there
YT is no download.  Once the connection establishes, F2 causes an
YT immediate poll and download, as it should.  If I open TB when there
YT is an active connection already established, behavior is normal (poll
YT and download).

OK, let me get this straight: you have TB set to check mail every xx
minutes. You open TB now. The connection was established earlier, TB
will check mail. If the connection has not been established, TB dials
but does not check mail?

YT I am sure this is new behavior, where I have to initiate a poll
YT via F2 when a new connection is established, but I cannot account
YT for any system configuration change that might have caused this.

TB's behaviour has always been described as such that it will not
automatically check mail if you did not tick check amil on startup
and you did not hit F2/alt-F2. The first mail check must be
initialised manually for the check mail every xx option to kick in.

My personal experience (on cable, so the connection is always
established before TB starts) is that I don't need to do anything. I
start TB, and after 10 minutes, mail will be checked.

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Re[2]: New undesirable behavior

2001-11-27 Thread Yuki Taga

Wednesday, November 28, 2001, 2:48:57 PM, Thomas wrote:

TF OK, let me get this straight: you have TB set to check mail every
TF xx minutes. You open TB now. The connection was established
TF earlier, TB will check mail. If the connection has not been
TF established, TB dials but does not check mail?

That is absolutely correct.  I have it set to check every 15 minutes,
and upon opening the program.  Both boxes are checked, and both have
been checked for ages.  I never play around with it.

TF TB's behaviour has always been described as such that it will not
TF automatically check mail if you did not tick check amil on
TF startup

It's checked.  And it used to check mail on startup.  This is new and
out of the blue.

TF and you did not hit F2/alt-F2. The first mail check must
TF be initialised manually for the check mail every xx option to
TF kick in.

Seems to check every 15 minutes like clockwork.  My only problem,
which is new behavior, is that it will not check when I open it and
no connection is present.  It will establish the connection, but not
use it to poll the server or download.  Have to do that manually,
which is new.

Best,

Yuki

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Re: New undesirable behavior

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas F

Hi Yuki,

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:23:20 +0900GMT (28/11/2001, 14:23 +0800GMT),
Yuki Taga wrote:

YT Seems to check every 15 minutes like clockwork.  My only problem,
YT which is new behavior, is that it will not check when I open it and
YT no connection is present.  It will establish the connection, but not
YT use it to poll the server or download.  Have to do that manually,
YT which is new.

Hmmm. Are you sure you didn't change anything? It is still the same TB
version, I assume. I am thinking along the lines of anther softweare
download/installation that might have changed something to do with DUN
or so. You know what I'm driving at. Anything like that?

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