Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but cannot
AQ make it appear!

Hmm, over here it comes into the foreground when I click on the
taskbar item.

AQ Alex Leschinsky, from RITlabs, told me to restore the window (CC,
AQ I guess) from its minimized form when I send/receive, but to no
AQ avail: the restore option in the right-button menu is grayed
AQ out.

How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so
that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the screen,
so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already restored?

When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly reappear?

AQ Has anybody had this phantom CC problem, and if so, how did you
AQ solve it? I´m using W98 and TB 1.53d

Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
setting for size and location are stored. And what the default values
are, to which you should set them.

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 10:07, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but
cannot
AQ make it appear!

 How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so
 that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the
 screen, so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already
 restored?  

Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?  

Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
 setting for size and location are stored. And what the default
 values are, to which you should set them.

I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but I
have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry is.
First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella next
time you come to Granada, Spain.


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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:10:46 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 17:10 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

 How about Maximise?

AQ Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

Of all the options in the context menu, whcih oens are available?

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?  

AQ Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

You mean the Close option is not available, either? I am asking
because what you say seems to prove my theory, but there might still
be anotehr reason.

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
 setting for size and location are stored. And what the default
 values are, to which you should set them.

AQ I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but I
AQ have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry is.

Just looked, no luck either. :-(

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella next
AQ time you come to Granada, Spain.

That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Arturo,
On 30 Nov 2001 at 10:10:46 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
AQ next time you come to Granada, Spain.

OK, what about this one:

HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

Well, how's the weather in Spain at the moment? :-) In Germany it's
cold and rainy.

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Re: Beta and non-beta versions together

2001-11-30 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 22:39:17 -0500 [ Thu, 29 Nov 2001], Paula Ford [PF] contributed this
to our collective wisdom:
...
PF Hi All,

PF I'd like to get a look at the betas, but since they look pretty buggy
PF from the archive of the beta list, I was wondering if I could install
PF the beta seperately from the dependable 1.53.


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Re: Beta and non-beta versions together

2001-11-30 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 22:39:17 -0500 [ Thu, 29 Nov 2001], Paula Ford [PF] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
PF I'd like to get a look at the betas, but since they look pretty
PF buggy from the archive of the beta list, I was wondering if I
PF could install the beta seperately from the dependable 1.53.

I think I inadvertently sent an unreplied  message with just quotes to
the list. CTRL+Enter both generates and sends the reply. I hit
CTRL+Enter and nothing happened. So I hit it again and the two
eventually executed, leading to the message being sent while it only
flickered on the screen. A beta problem so, forget it except for my
apology. :-)

Anyway, to address Paula's question:

The problem is that TB! stores it's settings in the registry instead
of an ini file that resides in the installation directory. This leads
to two versions not being able to coexist, unless you're willing to
manually load registry keys before starting each install. What I mean
here is:

a) backup your current installations registry key.

b) Install the beta, and backup its registry settings.

c) Double click on the registry backup file for the desired version
prior to starting it up.

d) This means you'll have to create a fresh backup each time you make
any registry changes.

You could make this relatively pain free by using batch files:

Create a batch file for starting and exiting each version. Double
clicking on the batch file will change the registry key and then start
TB! and the second batch will backup the registry key and then exit
TB!.

If you're willing to go through with this, then shout so that we can
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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 11:53, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:10:46 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 17:10 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

 How about Maximise?

AQ Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 Of all the options in the context menu, whcih oens are available?

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?

AQ Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 You mean the Close option is not available, either? I am asking
 because what you say seems to prove my theory, but there might
 still be anotehr reason.

Well, it does:

- When I press Alt+F2, the CC shows in the taskbar.  The
options available are: Move, Size, Minimize, Close.

- If i Minimize, the options available are Restore and
Close.

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key
 the setting for size and location are stored. And what the
 default values are, to which you should set them.

AQ I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but
I
AQ have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry
is.

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(

Lars Geiger suggested:

 HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
lowered to 100, to no avail.

Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
next
AQ time you come to Granada, Spain.

 That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we
thought ;-)

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 19:02 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ - When I press Alt+F2, the CC shows in the taskbar.

You can also choose Options / Preferences / Display Connection Center:
Always.

AQ The options available are: Move, Size, Minimize, Close.

This means the window is open.

AQ - If i Minimize, the options available are Restore and Close.

This means the window is minimised.

It proves my theory that the size is either zero or the window off the
screen.

AQ Lars Geiger suggested:

AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

Is RAS the Connection Center?

AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

Could well be the problem. Do you have a backup of your reg key? FYI
whenever I backup TB, I also backup its reg key.

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
AQ next time you come to Granada, Spain.

 That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

AQ Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we thought
AQ ;-)

By offering Paella? ;-)

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HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Geoff Lane

Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5

I'm a real TB newbie -- so please go easy on me for this question.

I've been trialling TB for three days. I normally send plain text, so
the question of HTML mail has only just occurred to me. I know that TB
can read HTML mail -- but can I use it to compose HTML mail?

(I suspect that the answer is no, if only because I haven't found
anything for applying HTML formatting.)

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 12:37, escribiste:

 It proves my theory that the size is either zero or the window off
 the screen.

AQ Lars Geiger suggested:

AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31
(Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

 Is RAS the Connection Center?

I don´t know.  Might be.  Anyway, the Top and Left
values (no RAS) have also vry high values, and Width (no RAS)
is zero!

But it gets weirder. I open the Registry Editor, change
those values (as well as the RAS ones) to reasonable values, save,
go back to TB, and it doesn´t work.  Back to the Registry Editor:
now the values are same as before making any change!  Seems like
there´s a won´t-let-you-repair-it mode on!  I´m starting to lose
faith in the whole Registry.  I´ll keep trying

 Could well be the problem. Do you have a backup of your reg key?
 FYI whenever I backup TB, I also backup its reg key.

Unfortunately, I never did backup the reg. key.  I mean, the
entire Windows registry.  Is there a separate copy of TB registry,
anywhere?  FWIW, I have another copy of TB in a different computer,
so I think I will now export the bad reg and compare to the good
one.

AQ Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we thought
AQ ;-)

 By offering Paella? ;-)

Well, all people need is a good incentive.  And I don´t see
stock options working now...

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30-11-2001, 12:02 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(
AQ Lars Geiger suggested:
AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

And those will do fine, they work for me.

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

I've got height 364, left 231, top 156 and width 484. Screen
resolution is 800x600.
When editing the registry you should remember to close TB, edit the
registry and restart TB, than the new entries should work.


AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

That looks like the source of the problem.

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread David Elliott

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Hi Geoff

On 30 November 2001 at 11:04:14 + (which was 11:04 where I live) Geoff
Lane thoughtfully wrote the following

GL I'm a real TB newbie -- so please go easy on me for this question.

Welcome.

GL I've been trialling TB for three days. I normally send plain text, so
GL the question of HTML mail has only just occurred to me. I know that TB
GL can read HTML mail -- but can I use it to compose HTML mail?

At this moment in time you can not compose HTML e-mail.There are ways
around it.

You can create an HTML document and attach it to an email message. You can
then export the message with the HTML attachment to a .MSG file, change the
'content-type' header from 'multipart/mixed' to 'multipart/alternative',
import the message back into the outbox and finally (phew!) send it.

Obviously, this procedure is not for the faint hearted. (My thanks to Oleg
Zalyalov for this tip)

I got this from the FAQ which can but accessed from the help menu. (This is
not a RTFM).

Please ask any other questions on this list as this is the place to do it.

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Geoff,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:04:14 +GMT (30-11-2001, 12:04 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

GL but can I use it to compose HTML mail?

No.
Sending html mail is possible, by creating some html and sending it as
an attachment. But no composing with TB.



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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Karin Spaink

On 30-11-2001 at 12:04, Geoff Lane kindly wrote:

 I've been trialling TB for three days. I normally send plain text, so
 the question of HTML mail has only just occurred to me. I know that TB
 can read HTML mail -- but can I use it to compose HTML mail?

 (I suspect that the answer is no, if only because I haven't found
 anything for applying HTML formatting.)

Yiur hunch is correct: TB doesn't allow styled text, only
plain ascii - for a number of reasons, one of them being
that plain text is the preferred method of communication
for mail, another being that this severly limits the danger
of inadvertedly sending virii.


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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On 30 Nov 2001 at 19:16:07 [GMT +0800], you wrote:

TF Is RAS the Connection Center?

AFAIK, RAS stands for remote access service. That's the name used for
the dial up mechanism in Windows, so I thought that the meaning is the
same for TB!

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 12:58:02 +0100 [ Fri, 30 Nov 2001], Karin Spaink [KS] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
KS another being that this severly limits the danger
KS of inadvertedly sending virii.

Really? How?

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Karin Spaink

On 30-11-2001 at 13:08, Allie C Martin kindly wrote:
 Karin Spaink [KS] wrote:

[no html]

KS another being that this severly limits the danger
KS of inadvertedly sending virii.

 Really? How?

Pictures. Didn't we even have a thread once in which
somebody explained why TB doesn't include pictures from
webpages, because they're a security risk?


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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Allie C Martin

@ 13:29:25 +0100 [ Fri, 30 Nov 2001], Karin Spaink [KS] thoughtfully
wrote the following:
...
 Really? How?

KS Pictures. Didn't we even have a thread once in which somebody
KS explained why TB doesn't include pictures from webpages, because
KS they're a security risk?

Oh. But that's a different issue. That has to do with incoming HTML
mail. The current query is about *composing* HTML mail for sending.

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Virus On Mail Check

2001-11-30 Thread Andrew P Stenz

ver 1.53d
winXP
norton antivirus 2002

When the Bat checks mail, it creates a temp file in
Documents and settingsNameLocal Internet..Temp
The name changes everytime (bat237.tmp, bat230.tmp, etc.)
It is infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus.
because the file is a tmp and disapears in a matter of secs,
it can never be fixed. i have done a system wide scan and
found no other viruses. it only appers during those few secs 
when checking mail.

Any ideas?
thanks,
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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Roelof,

SUCCESS!!!  I finally got to change and save the reg.
settings, and now I got the CC back.  Certainly, it was a registry
problem.  Well, now I know better about reg matters, including
backups!

Thank to all of you who gave me a hand.  Roelof and Thomas
won the paella (half each) for their good suggestions.  Lars also
gets a second price (ham and gazpacho fine for you?), and BTW,
weather in Granada is fine, cold but sunny, with a sky resort 30 km
away, an Arab palace in the landscape and the beach down south. What
are you waiting for?  Come and get your award!

Tx.  Arturo Q.

El día 30/11/2001, a las 15:43, escribiste:

 Hello Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30-11-2001, 12:02 +0100GMT,
 where I live), you wrote:

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(
AQ Lars Geiger suggested:
AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)


AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer
subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure. 
Doh!

 That looks like the source of the problem.


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Re: Virus On Mail Check

2001-11-30 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

On Friday, November 30, 2001, 3:32:11 PM, Andrew P Stenz wrote:

 When the Bat checks mail, it creates a temp file in
 Documents and settingsNameLocal Internet..Temp
 The name changes everytime (bat237.tmp, bat230.tmp, etc.)
 It is infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus.
 because the file is a tmp and disapears in a matter of secs,
 it can never be fixed. i have done a system wide scan and
 found no other viruses. it only appers during those few secs 
 when checking mail.

 Any ideas?

Use the mail dispatcher (Shift-Ctrl-F2) to view all messages stored on
your mail server, determine the infected message and delete it from the
server (by setting the checkmark in the Delete column and clicking on
execute).

Regards,

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What is it? (Message splitting)

2001-11-30 Thread Dr. Sergey Uvarov

In Account/Properties/FileDirectory there is option Message
Splitting

I have tried to find what it is in Help - No answer.
So - what it means? and how it works?

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Re: What is it? (Message splitting)

2001-11-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Sergey!

On 30 Nov 2001 at 17:30:41 you wrote:

 In Account/Properties/FileDirectory there is option Message
 Splitting

 I have tried to find what it is in Help - No answer.
 So - what it means? and how it works?

It's for bad telephone lines. It splits messages into packets of the
defined size. I actually don't know if it works at the moment. I have
never used - not even for messages as big as 5 MB ...





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Re: Virus On Mail Check

2001-11-30 Thread Marcel

Hi Andrew,

On Friday, November 30, 2001, Andrew P Stenz wrote:


APS When the Bat checks mail, it creates a temp file in
APS Documents and settingsNameLocal Internet..Temp
[...]
APS found no other viruses. it only appers during those few secs
APS when checking mail.

APS Any ideas?

What Markus said is one solution, but it's one that doesn't work for
me. One account receives over 10 mb of mail a day, so that is polled
every 5 minutes otherwise the inbox om the server is full. :(

I have the same problem and I've been looking at the account that
receives the virusses.
In the log it says:

+30-11-2001, 19:48:32: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
+30-11-2001, 19:48:36: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
*30-11-2001, 19:48:38: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new
!30-11-2001, 19:48:50: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat260.TMP)
+30-11-2001, 19:48:51: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received
*30-11-2001, 20:03:32: FETCH - receiving mail messages
+30-11-2001, 20:03:32: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
+30-11-2001, 20:03:32: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
*30-11-2001, 20:03:33: FETCH - 1 messages in the mailbox, 1 new
!30-11-2001, 20:03:34: FETCH - [Inbox] could not store message (file name - 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\bat3212.TMP)
+30-11-2001, 20:03:34: FETCH - connection finished - 1 messages received

And the log of mcAfee says:

30-11-2001  19:03   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT31F4.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:19   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT21E5.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:33   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT1202.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:33   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT1202.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:38   Deleted Marcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT31F4.TMP W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:38   Deleted Marcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT21E5.TMP W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:38   Deleted Marcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT1202.TMP W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:38   Delete ErrorMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT1202.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:48   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT260.TMP  
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  19:48   Deleted Marcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT260.TMP  W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  20:03   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT3212.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  20:03   InfectedMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT3212.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  20:03   Deleted Marcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT3212.TMP W32/BadTrans@MM
30-11-2001  20:03   Delete ErrorMarcel  C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\BAT3212.TMP 
W32/BadTrans@MM


So mcAfee sees the virus in the On-Access-Scan, blocks the file, The
Bat can't import the temp-file and ignores it, and then the temp file
if deleted.

I was worried too, but it seems that On-Access-Scanning and the bat
are working well together grin

I received over 50 infected mails in the last two days on only one
account and thank God these two programs are doing their job.

Yesterday one mail slipped by, but ZoneAlarm already renamed the
extension, so no harm could be done :))

Hope this answers your question.


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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Karin Spaink,

On Friday, November 30 2001 at 03:58 AM PDT, you wrote:

 Yiur hunch is correct: TB doesn't allow styled text, only
 plain ascii - for a number of reasons, one of them being
 that plain text is the preferred method of communication
 for mail

Hmmm... Then it would stand to reason that TB! shouldn't be offering
anything to do with HTML. ;o)


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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Peter Meyns

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:27:27 -0800GMT (which was 21:27 +0100GMT where I
live), Nick Andriash thought about HTML-mail and wrote:

 Yiur hunch is correct: TB doesn't allow styled text, only
 plain ascii - for a number of reasons, one of them being
 that plain text is the preferred method of communication
 for mail

NA Hmmm... Then it would stand to reason that TB! shouldn't be offering
NA anything to do with HTML. ;o)

I don't think so, Nick. There are too many Outlook (Express) users around.
I do like to be able to see their style, though I despise HTML in mails
generally. I agree with you in so far as TB! shouldn't implement creating
HTML mails. This should never be encouraged.

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Re[2]: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Rick Reumann

Peter,

On Friday, November 30, 2001, 3:51:41 PM, you wrote:

PM I don't think so, Nick. There are too many Outlook (Express) users around.
PM I do like to be able to see their style, though I despise HTML in mails
PM generally.

One of the reasons I switched to The Bat! from Pegasus was
because of the way it handled HTML messages. Most of the mail I get
still comes from Outlook and Outlook Express and The Bat! handles it
very well.

Although for the most part I also despise HTML emails, I'm not so
certain that at least having the option to use it occasionally would
be such a bad idea. The only HTML I used was some occasional bolding
or italics which I didn't think was such a horrible offense.

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Re[3]: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Kenneth S. Rhee

Hello Rick,

30 Nov 2001, 4:08:52 PM, you wrote:

RR Although for the most part I also despise HTML emails, I'm not so
RR certain that at least having the option to use it occasionally would
RR be such a bad idea. The only HTML I used was some occasional bolding
RR or italics which I didn't think was such a horrible offense.

I don't want to start the flame war here, but I believe if BAT is
continue to attract new customers and keep up with the rest of the
world, this feature should be available as an option.

Everyday I turn around, most of the world around me is going
multimedia, and although I don't like it, it is the way it is.

I didn't like it when CD's replaced LP's with their horrible digital
sounds, but LP's are gone by the wayside.

Besides, with the broadband connection, most people don't suffer from
bandwidth limitation of 56K modems.

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Re: Virus On Mail Check

2001-11-30 Thread Marcel

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Hi Andrew,

I wasn't completely right in my last message.

I thought I got a lot of infected mail, but it seems that whenever
The
Bat is unable to access it's temp file, it leaves the original on the
server. Great work in fact, this way you'll never lose a message, but
on the other hand, now each time you collect mail, the infected
message is retrieved again, and again and again.

So Markus was right.
After you've found out that an infected message is sent, delete it
from the server manually, either by webmail, or the mail dispatcher.

I only had two infected messages, and the first slipped by because
McAfee was really slowing down my system and I had turned it off for
a
couple of minutes, to do some other things. The Bat was collecting
mail at that moment (NARF).

Last infected message stayed on the server, and caused alerts
everytime The Bat was collecting, so it seemed that I had a lot of
those things sent to me, but silly me. I was looking at the same
message over and over again :((

Hope I got everything right this time. :)

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Peter Meyns

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:08:52 -0500GMT (which was 22:08 +0100GMT where I
live), Rick Reumann thought about HTML-mail and wrote:

RR Although for the most part I also despise HTML emails, I'm not so
RR certain that at least having the option to use it occasionally would
RR be such a bad idea. The only HTML I used was some occasional bolding
RR or italics which I didn't think was such a horrible offense.

Hi Rick,

you don't need HTML for that. It's easy in ascii to write *bold* or
/italics/ or even _underline_ ... ;-)
If I wanted to write someone an HTML styled christmas card, I'd do it in my
HTML editor or use *arrgh* OE... ;o)

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hello Kenneth,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:22:16 -0500 GMT (01/12/2001, 05:22 +0800 GMT),
Kenneth S. Rhee wrote:

RR Although for the most part I also despise HTML emails, I'm not so
RR certain that at least having the option to use it occasionally would
RR be such a bad idea. The only HTML I used was some occasional bolding
RR or italics which I didn't think was such a horrible offense.

KSR I don't want to start the flame war here, but I believe if BAT is
KSR continue to attract new customers and keep up with the rest of the
KSR world, this feature should be available as an option.

AFAIK it will be.

KSR Everyday I turn around, most of the world around me is going
KSR multimedia, and although I don't like it, it is the way it is.

No, it is not necessary to embed background music in emails. I don't
think the world will go that way either. The one around me doesn't
at all.

KSR Besides, with the broadband connection, most people don't suffer from
KSR bandwidth limitation of 56K modems.

You live in a privileged country.

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hello Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:48:29 +0100 GMT (30/11/2001, 22:48 +0800 GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ SUCCESS!!!

:-)))

AQ Thank to all of you who gave me a hand. Roelof and Thomas won the
AQ paella (half each) for their good suggestions.

happily jumping up and down in anticipation of the paella

AQ Lars also gets a second price (ham and gazpacho fine for you?),

Lars, say yes: jamon Serrano and a good Andalusian gazpacho. You
can't beat it (well, only with a paella...)

AQ and BTW, weather in Granada is fine, cold but sunny, with a sky
AQ resort 30 km away, an Arab palace in the landscape and the beach
AQ down south. What are you waiting for? Come and get your award!

I will be in Granada in the second quarter of next year, I just
learned. Will let you know! :-)

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Re: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 30 Nov 2001, 10:18:53 PM, Thomas F wrote:

KSR Besides, with the broadband connection, most people don't suffer
KSR from bandwidth limitation of 56K modems.

 You live in a privileged country.

And most likely in an urban area. There are large parts of rural US
where there are no local ISPs and a person must either make a long
distance call or use a toll free number and may an hourly premium.

I think it is a misconception that most of US has broadband (or can
afford it where it is available)

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Re[2]: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Don Zeigler

On 11/30/2001, Peter Meyns wrote:

 I don't think so, Nick. There are too many Outlook (Express) users
 around. I do like to be able to see their style, though I despise
 HTML in mails generally. I agree with you in so far as TB! shouldn't
 implement creating HTML mails. This should never be encouraged.

As much as some of us hate it, html mail is here to stay, and any mail
client that doesn't offer the option to compose in this format is
doomed in the long run. I despise tacky Outlook html templates but
people love using them.

The Bat *needs* to be able to compose in html format. As far as
viewing html mails, we should have the option of using the Bat's
built-in limited viewer (which is enought for my own needs, anyhow) or
selecting Microsoft's viewer if we want to see the mail with images,
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Re[4]: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Don Zeigler

On 11/30/2001, Kenneth S. Rhee wrote:

 Besides, with the broadband connection, most people don't suffer
 from bandwidth limitation of 56K modems.

More than 80% of the U.S. is still using dialup to access the
Internet, though. Source:

http://adsections.businessweek.com/broadband/future/bbtwo.html
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Re[2]: HTML-mail

2001-11-30 Thread Nick Andriash

At 12:47 AM 01/12/01, Don Zeigler wrote:

The Bat *needs* to be able to compose in html format. As far as
viewing html mails, we should have the option of using the Bat's
built-in limited viewer (which is enought for my own needs, anyhow) or
selecting Microsoft's viewer if we want to see the mail with images,
etc.

Negative! If people want to see all that fancy HTML, then they can use a 
Browser to view it, which is what HTML was designed for. I would have to 
disagree with you that TB! 'needs' to be able to do HTML anything. What you 
are proposing is an Outlook 'wannabe', and I for one hope RITLabs never 
entertain going that route.

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