Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello David!

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:46:56 AM you wrote:

> However, the text editor just sucks ... doesn't it? Or am I doing
> something wrong. Any configuration advice to make it usable, like
> being able to auto reformat if I delete/rewrite something.

Not *that* discussion again ...

BTW, how come I see your message about the editor under the subject of
MAPI requests? Maybe you've done something wrong?

But seriously, it would be more than a nice gesture to start a new
subject as a new message with a new subject line - just to make your
question/message more accessible. Thank you!




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Re: GMX Servers Still Prefixing Sentences with ">" ??

2002-01-24 Thread Scott Frederick

Hello Nick,

Wednesday, January 23, 2002, 9:14:18 AM, you wrote:

NA> This really has nothing to do with TB, but I thought I'd ask it here
NA> because there are a lot of Users who have GMX addresses. I notice that
NA> the GMX Servers are still prefixing lines beginning with "from" with the
NA> _greater than_ symbol, resulting in that line appearing as if it's a
NA> quoted line... change in colour.

  Not only GMX but my ISP's servers do it to. (They are running Linux)

NA> I find it annoying to the point of not wanting to use their Service
NA> which is a shame because they are relatively fast and stable.

  It really is a shame. The are almost instantaneous (unlike Yahoo -
  half hour+ delays) and so far 100% reliable (unlike Mailandnews.com
  with week long outages)

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Re[2]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread syv

On Thursday, January 24, 2002 , Melissa Reese wrote the
following in regards to: [Usin TB as simple MAPI request
handler]

So, how can I do the outdents?

1. xxx
   
   xx

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MR> On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 3:46:56 PM PST, David Conroy wrote:

>> However, the text editor just sucks ... doesn't it? Or am I doing
>> something wrong.

MR> Hello David,

MR> I am of the opinion that you are doing something wrong. :-) I love
MR> TB!'s message editor! It is a true "WYSIWYG" editor, and once you get
MR> to know it, it's very easy to compose well formatted - and
MR> re-formatted - email.

MR> Let's say your chosen editing options (Utilities) look like this:

MR> Auto-Wrap:  ON
MR> Auto-Format:  OFF

MR> If you're composing a paragraph, and want to insert new text
MR> somewhere, the wrapping might go out of bounds and look funny. Just be
MR> sure that the cursor is within the paragraph, and use the keyboard
MR> combination: Alt-L

MR> If you have "Auto-Format" ON, re-wrapping as you insert new text is
MR> automatic.  However - if you keep Auto-Format ON, you can't make
MR> bulleted lists, etc., as it will force the short lines back together
MR> as a paragraph.  You can, as an alternative, toggle Auto-Format on and
MR> off by using "Ctrl-Shift-F".

MR> I've tried every Windows email client I can get my hands on, and so
MR> far, have not seen *any* client - in the areas of both mail management
MR> and message composition - that come close to it. Becky has a decent
MR> message editor, but I feel it still falls behind TB! in other aspects
MR> of mail management.

MR> Melissa
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Re: Sorting messages

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas F

Hi Claude,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:05:11 +0100GMT (25/01/2002, 04:05 +0800GMT),
Claude Renaud wrote:

CR>   I  would  like  to  know  if  it  would  bepossible to not only sort
CR>   messages alphabetically but also chronologically so that we can have
CR>   all of them arranged by name and date ?
  
In the message list, click on the Received header. Your messages will
be sorted by received date. click again, and they will be ordered in
reverse received order.

Clicking on any header sorts the messages by the header; clicking
again reverses the sort order.

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas F

Hi David,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:46:56 +GMT (25/01/2002, 07:46 +0800GMT),
David Conroy wrote:

DC> However, the text editor just sucks ... doesn't it?

No. :-)

DC> Or am I doing something wrong. Any configuration advice to make it
DC> usable, like being able to auto reformat if I delete/rewrite
DC> something.

Turn on autoformat then. It's under the Utilities menu in the editor.
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Re[2]: Storing attached messages in a separate directory

2002-01-24 Thread Raj

Thomas,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, at 11:20:27 [GMT +0800] (which was 8:50 AM where I live) you
wrote:

TF> Well, I've never used SecureBat (still happy iwth InsecureBat ),
TF> but I switched from storing attachments externally to internally for
TF> the following reasons:

Other reasons could be virus related.

I use AVG and it does not detect the virus if I choose to have the attachment in
the message body. It will however alert me when I try to open the attachment. So
in  that  sense  I  may have a virus residing on my machine but not active. Even
Mcafee  which  I was using earlier would not detect if the attachments is kept in
the message body.

However  the  good  part  of  it  is  that  if  I  were  to keep the attachments
separately,  the  downloads  are not smooth. As soon as the AV program detects a
virus it will not be saved and then the message does not get 'marked as read' or
deleted  on the server. Then one has to use the 'Dispatch mail on server' option
and delete the mail. This does not help in auto retrieval of messages.

In  summary,  if one has a heavy load of mails and cannot be present in front of
the  comp all the time, then its better to keep the attachments in the body. And
extract  it  using a read filter (if there is a need to). This of course assumes
that the comp is protected by a good AV program.

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Re: Learning to use the bat!

2002-01-24 Thread Raj

Claude,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, at 21:53:39 [GMT +0100] (which was 2:23 AM where I live) you
wrote:

CR> I  would  like to know if it exists a complete documentation (manual
CR>   and  reference  guide)  whic  can  help  me  to learn to use all the
CR>   facilities of this mervelous software ?

I do not think so.

You  will  have  to wade thru the help. But first take time and read out the FAQ
section  http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com.  This  will  give you a jump start. Then
this group is very helpful.

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Re: the Bat PGP DLL's

2002-01-24 Thread Geordon VanTassle

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 On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 18:13:58 GMT -0800 (which was 8:13 PM where I live), 
this spake Keith on the subject of "the Bat PGP DLL's":




K> Hello TBUDL,

K>   How do I properly install the PGP DLL for the bat? I have downloaded
K> the files the the web site, but there are no instructions in the ZIP
K> file or in the FAQ on where to install the DLL and how to use them.




I can answer this one!  Just put the appropriate DLL for your chosen
PGP version into the directory where your TB! executable lives.  That,
and make sure that you choose the version in the OpenPGP properties
panel.

Hope this helps!


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Re: ABD display order

2002-01-24 Thread Raj

Joseph,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, at 07:05:12 [GMT -0600] (which was 6:35 PM where I live) you
wrote:

JN> I have created a new address book and imported a lot of contacts from
JN> a separate program in vCard format.  They are all listed as "Title
JN> Firstname MI Lastname."  I would rather they were listed as "Lastname,
JN> Firstname MI," but there are too many to go through the entire list.
JN> Any chance there's an EZ remedy?

I  am  not  sure  if  I  have  understood the need properly..still attempting to
answer

1.  If  what  you are asking is how the names are displayed in the 'Display Name
As' field in the AB, I am not sure...but do check out point 2.

2.  What  you  could  do is to export the current AB to a csv format. Then using
excel  open the .csv file. Move the name coloumns as required. Then re-import to
to a new address book.

3.  If however your need is to use the names to address them in the mails, check
out  the various AB based macros where you could use the Firstname or MiddleName
or Lastname as you wish.

Hope this is helpful.

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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 00:49:48 GMT+ (which was 1:49 where
I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments on
"wrapping mystery":

MDP> Is that any help?

Tnx, i'll try and fiddle with the thing lol

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the Bat PGP DLL's

2002-01-24 Thread Keith

Hello TBUDL,

  How do I properly install the PGP DLL for the bat? I have downloaded
the files the the web site, but there are no instructions in the ZIP
file or in the FAQ on where to install the DLL and how to use them.



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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 01:45:16 GMT+0100 (which was 1:45 where
I live) Roelof Otten wrote and spread these wise comments on "wrapping
mystery":

RO> But probably you've unchecked 'autowrap' in the editor
RO> preferences:
RO>  Options -> Editor preferences -> general tab

It is checked

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Re: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Luc,

On 24 January 2002 at 22:15:31 +0100 (which was 21:15 where I live)
Luc wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

> Maybe i'm slow but that means that 99% (yes, also on this list) of
> all those whose mail i receive haven't set a wrap (or a long one)
> and my window isn't as wide as those original messages.

No. You have TB set up for a wrap point for autowrap which is wider
than the width of your window. Or, since you say you have a wrap point
of 70 and the messages you're sending clearly have more than that (one
line was 141 characters long!), maybe you're editing lines and not
using Alt-L to reformat them (since you're not using auto format).

> Only yours (of course !) comes out right. So, there's nothing i can
> do about it?

For sending messages, TB hard wraps. Outlook and OE do not. TB wraps
as you type and sends *exactly* what you see. Outlook and OE do not.

For incoming messages, TB will wrap text to fit the view window width.
If this is too narrow, then you'll get funky wrapping, because
existing line breaks will persist. Nothing you can do about that other
than view messages in a wider viewing area.

When you reply to one of these messages, the wrapping reverts to line
break points and becomes immaterial.

Is that any help?

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Re: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Luc,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:15:31 +0100GMT (24-1-02, 22:15 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

MR>> . as you seem to have no wrap set at all in your TB!
L> That's strange: i have TB! set to wrap at 70

But probably you've unchecked 'autowrap' in the editor preferences:
 Options -> Editor preferences -> general tab

MR>> If the original sender doesn't set a wrap (or sets a really long
MR>> one), and if you're viewing in a window that is not as wide as
MR>> the original message wrap setting can fit into, you'll see the
MR>> funky wrapping.

L> Maybe i'm slow but that means that 99% (yes, also on this list) of
L> all those whose mail i receive haven't set a wrap (or a long one)
L> and my window isn't as wide as those original messages.

No, it only means that your window isn't as wide as those original
messages. Not that authors didn't do any wrapping. It's just possible
that you carry a low resolution on your monitor.

L> So, there's nothing i can do about it?

Higher resolution on your screen, more pixels give more line length.

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Re: Attachment size

2002-01-24 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Terry,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:26:18 -0600GMT (24-1-02, 23:26 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

SBL> Is there a way to view attachment size in the message list?

No.

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 3:46:56 PM PST, David Conroy wrote:

> However, the text editor just sucks ... doesn't it? Or am I doing
> something wrong.

Hello David,

I am of the opinion that you are doing something wrong. :-) I love
TB!'s message editor! It is a true "WYSIWYG" editor, and once you get
to know it, it's very easy to compose well formatted - and
re-formatted - email.

Let's say your chosen editing options (Utilities) look like this:

Auto-Wrap:  ON
Auto-Format:  OFF

If you're composing a paragraph, and want to insert new text
somewhere, the wrapping might go out of bounds and look funny. Just be
sure that the cursor is within the paragraph, and use the keyboard
combination: Alt-L

If you have "Auto-Format" ON, re-wrapping as you insert new text is
automatic.  However - if you keep Auto-Format ON, you can't make
bulleted lists, etc., as it will force the short lines back together
as a paragraph.  You can, as an alternative, toggle Auto-Format on and
off by using "Ctrl-Shift-F".

I've tried every Windows email client I can get my hands on, and so
far, have not seen *any* client - in the areas of both mail management
and message composition - that come close to it. Becky has a decent
message editor, but I feel it still falls behind TB! in other aspects
of mail management.

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Smart Business Lists

David

At first I wondered about the text editor but I have grown to really
like it a lot.  That's mainly because of the following:

  1 I finally understood that formatting began where I started typing
  2 I discovered ALT+l to reformat my paragraphs
  3 I turned on Auto Spell Checker
  4 the custom dictionary is very nice
  5 I discovered replying quoted text using F4

Certainly everyone's needs are different and every editor is not the
right tool for every job.  But theBat!'s little editor has continued
to please me again and again.

I hope you find the same thing.

Terry Fritts
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Re[3]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread David Conroy

Hello Bat People ...


Ok, this is my first post after using The Bat! for a few days.

I am finding it great after stability issues for months with Eudora
and too much virus/worm horror associated with Outlook/Express.
However, the text editor just sucks ... doesn't it? Or am I doing
something wrong. Any configuration advice to make it usable, like
being able to auto reformat if I delete/rewrite something.

Thanks a lot from cold and wet Bath, UK.

Dave


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Re[2]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread myob

Hello Dierk,

Thursday, January 24, 2002, 6:59:15 PM, you wrote:

DH> Hello myob!

DH> On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 7:43:10 PM you wrote:

>> The problem with that would, I guess, be that it would still not be
>> possible for a third application to send mail using its internal
>> system.

DH> Why don't you just edit the registry?

Edit the registry?
The very idea makes me feel sick!


Seriously, that's something about which I feel very nervous, given all
the warnings I've seen about the dire effects of any mistakes doing
that.


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Re[2]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Melissa,

24. januar 2002, 20:15:23, you wrote:

MR> What happened?  And how can I fix this?

Restart windows, try again. Happens all the time...

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Attachment size

2002-01-24 Thread Smart Business Lists

Is there a way to view attachment size in the message list?

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Re: Automatic purging of *unread* messages?

2002-01-24 Thread Maurice Snellen

On Tuesday, January 22, 2002, at 06:02:54 [GMT +1300] (which was 18:02
where I live) Allister Jenks wrote:

AJ> Is there a solution to purge the emails automatically from this folder
AJ> once they are X days old, *regardless* of whether they have been read
AJ> or not?

That's odd because this is exactly what I'm using this feature for
also, and it works like a charm here.

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Re[2]: Size of mail

2002-01-24 Thread Jernej Simončič

Hello Britt,

24. januar 2002, 17:46:50, you wrote:

BM> Is there any way to avoid the files getting bigger - attach as mime -
BM> uuncoded or something (you name it;->) ?

Not by sending with e-mail. You can upload them somewhere, and only
send the link...

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Re: Upgrading to Secure Bat !

2002-01-24 Thread David Elliott

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CR> I own a private license of the bat! I would like to know if it exists an
CR> upgrade possibility to the secure bat! program, and how much it costs ?

Have a look at http://www.ritlabs.com/securebat/

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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 24-1-2002 @ 13:02:51 GMT-0800 (which was 22:02
where I live) Melissa Reese wrote and spread these wise comments on
"wrapping mystery":

MR> . as you seem to have no wrap set at all in your TB!

That's strange: i have TB! set to wrap at 70

MR> If the original sender doesn't set a wrap (or sets a really
MR> long one),
MR> and if you're viewing in a window that is not as wide as the
MR> original
MR> message wrap setting can fit into, you'll see the funky
MR> wrapping.

Maybe i'm slow but that means that 99% (yes, also on this list) of all those whose 
mail i
receive haven't set a wrap (or a long one) and my window isn't as wide
as those original messages.
Only yours (of course !) comes out right.
So, there's nothing i can do about it?
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Re: wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 12:50:41 PM PST, Luc wrote:

> Hi list,

> Strange thing is happening when i receive messages:

> a message i receive through The Bat!, Outlook, Outlook Express,
> comes out wrapped like this:

>>ddhdhddjdjdjdjdjddjdjdjdj
>>fhfh
>>fjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjf

Hello Luc,

I took the liberty of "cleaning up" your wrapping a bit (quoted text -
above), as you seem to have no wrap set at all in your TB!
Consequently, when reading your message (even opened up into it's own
full screen window), the same thing happens (badly wrapped lines).

Here's what is most likely happening when you get the funky
wrapping...

If the original sender doesn't set a wrap (or sets a really long one),
and if you're viewing in a window that is not as wide as the original
message wrap setting can fit into, you'll see the funky wrapping.

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Upgrading to Secure Bat !

2002-01-24 Thread Claude Renaud

Bonjour tbudl,

  I  own  a  private  license  of  the bat! I would like to know if it
  exists  an  upgrade  possibility to the secure bat! program, and how
  much it costs ?
  

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Learning to use the bat!

2002-01-24 Thread Claude Renaud

Bonjour tbudl,

  I  would  like to know if it exists a complete documentation (manual
  and  reference  guide)  whic  can  help  me  to learn to use all the
  facilities of this mervelous software ?
  

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wrapping mystery

2002-01-24 Thread Luc

Hi list,

Strange thing is happening when i receive messages:
a message i receive through The Bat!, Outlook, Outlook Express,  comes out wrapped 
like this:
>ddhdhddjdjdjdjdjddjdjdjdj
>fhfh
>fjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjfjf

In other words: a sentence is spread out over three lines: the second line always has 
one or two words from the sentence and then resumes on
the third line.

However: if i receive mail from a web based e-mail client, e.g. Yahoo,
the wrapping is normal.

Settings:
autowrap enabled
auto-format disabled
justify on wrap disabled
smart tabs enabled
auto indent enabled
Wrap at 70

Does anybody have a clue ?

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Re: Storing attached messages in a separate directory

2002-01-24 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, January 24, 2002, 6:55:19 AM, Joseph N. wrote:

> A message I received some months ago from Stefan, which I no longer
> have, noted that the speed issue is associated with prior versions
> and no longer is a factor.

> I always "need the attachment as a separate file to work with," and
> just open it for that purpose, saving it in the directory and with the
> name that the purpose requires.

I use the default location for my mailboxes, which nested within the
program files folder. This folder cannot be shared over the network in
XP. I don't know about earlier nt versions since I came to XP from ME.
If I don't separate out my attachments I cannot share them or access
them over the network unless I want to reconfigure the whole TB!
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Translation of the help system

2002-01-24 Thread Claude Renaud

Bonjour tbudl,

  Does  somebody  know  if a french version of the program help system
  exists ? If no, how can it be possible to translate it ?
  

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Sorting messages

2002-01-24 Thread Claude Renaud

Bonjour tbudl,

  I  would  like  to  know  if  it  would  bepossible to not only sort
  messages alphabetically but also chronologically so that we can have
  all of them arranged by name and date ?
  

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 8:23:52 AM PST, Thomas F wrote:

> Hello myob,

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:20:17 + GMT (25/01/02, 00:20 +0800 GMT),
> myob wrote:

m>> I've set TB as as a simple MAPI request handler, using the button
m>> in Options|Preferences|Applications, so that I can use it when
m>> sending mail originating in the Agent news reader. How do I switch
m>> that function off again?

> You have to tell another application (Agent?) to make itself the
> default.

I have a small twist on this, and I hope someone can let me know what
happened - and how to fix it...

I usually have TB! set up as my simple MAPI handler (I use Agent for
news as well). The other day, I was playing around with Agent's email
function, so I set it back temporarily (from within Agent) to allow
Agent to handle email.

I just now went back into my TB! preferences to restore TB! as my MAPI
handler, and received an error message telling me that it could not be
done, as the file "TBMapi.dll" could not be found in the program
directory.  I knew it was there before, and I just now checked again,
and it is indeed in there.

What happened?  And how can I fix this?

Thanks.

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello myob!

On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 7:43:10 PM you wrote:

> The problem with that would, I guess, be that it would still not be
> possible for a third application to send mail using its internal
> system.

Why don't you just edit the registry?


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Re[2]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread myob

Hello Thomas,

Thursday, January 24, 2002, 4:23:52 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hello myob,

TF> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:20:17 + GMT (25/01/02, 00:20 +0800 GMT),
TF> myob wrote:

m>>   I've set TB as as a simple MAPI request handler, using the button in
m>>   Options|Preferences|Applications, so that I can use it when sending mail
m>>   originating in the Agent news reader.
m>>   How do I switch that function off again?

TF> You have to tell another application (Agent?) to make itself the
TF> default.

The problem with that would, I guess, be that it would still not be
possible for a third application to send mail using its internal
system.



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Re: Size of mail

2002-01-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Britt!

On Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 5:46:50 PM you wrote:

> Is there any way to avoid the files getting bigger - attach as mime -
> uuncoded or something (you name it;->) ?

Not in the sense you are implying; any binary has to be transferred
into ASCII, which will make it bigger.

What you can do: Zip them before attaching them. The messages will
(mostly) be smaller but you will still see them in different sizes.

BTW, can you tell me something about your (self-given?) nickname in
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Re[2]: Recipient macro in New Message template

2002-01-24 Thread ETM

Isn't that the address cache that I just asked about deleting?  In
the newly-created email click on the arrow in the To: field and it
will bring up addresses that you have previously used or even
incorrectly typed in.  I deleted them because
I prefer to use my address book which has now successfully been
imported.

>From my post:

> While talking about the address book, could someone please tell me
> how to delete the address list history when creating new emails.

Open a new message, then on the To: line go to the drop down list, but
don't touch any keys once the list appears. Now take your down arrow
and
hit it once. That should cause the first entry in the List to be
highlighted. You can now use the arrow and delete keys to edit at
will.
:o)

And my thanks to Nick Andriash for providing the information on
deleting the cache.

Elaine

> Hello Orrie,

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT),
> Orrie Frutkin wrote:

OF>> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME,"

> Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead.

> AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic
> list of macros".

OF>> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from
OF>> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of
OF>> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write
OF>> the old address. Very puzzling.

> Weird indeed.


Hello Orrie,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT),
Orrie Frutkin wrote:

OF> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME,"

Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead.

AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic
list of macros".

OF> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from
OF> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of
OF> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write
OF> the old address. Very puzzling.


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Re[2]: Upgrading

2002-01-24 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 24-1-2002 @ 11:13:47 GMT+0800 (which was 4:13
where I live) Thomas F wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Upgrading":

TF> Yes, there are big differences, but a beta is a beta and not an
TF> upgrade.

Correct, but being almost 3 in the morning when i composed the
message, erare humane est ;-)

TF> You have to make a backup every time before you install any beta
TF> version; this is basic. The beta will use your settings. You need to
TF> subscribe to the TB beta list to know of any bugs, and also to find
TF> out about new betas. Never use an old beta: it is sure to contain
TF> bugs, as otherwise there wouldn't be a newer one. The last version I
TF> know of is 1.54 beta 31.
TF> I recommend to listen in on the beta list first, then download and
TF> install the current (!) beta, and jump right into beta testing. ;-)
TF> However, if you want to upgrade, you should wait for a release.

The last option is probably the best thing to do :-)

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Re: Size of mail

2002-01-24 Thread Britt Malka

Hej Listar,

First of all, I am sorry that I probably destroys the thread, but I am
on daily digest, and I don't know how to respond otherwise.

Thanks to Lars Geiger and Jernej Simon for your answers.

Is there any way to avoid the files getting bigger - attach as mime -
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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas F

Hello myob,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:20:17 + GMT (25/01/02, 00:20 +0800 GMT),
myob wrote:

m>   I've set TB as as a simple MAPI request handler, using the button in
m>   Options|Preferences|Applications, so that I can use it when sending mail
m>   originating in the Agent news reader.
m>   How do I switch that function off again?

You have to tell another application (Agent?) to make itself the
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Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread myob

Hello tbudl,

  I've set TB as as a simple MAPI request handler, using the button in
  Options|Preferences|Applications, so that I can use it when sending mail
  originating in the Agent news reader.
  How do I switch that function off again?

  It's giving problems when using the reply forms with other links, as
  the data I have entered in their forms doesn't carry across to TB
  message.

  Or is there a better way of doing this?


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Re[2]: Default Addressbook

2002-01-24 Thread Brano

Nick Andriash [NA], on Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 06:17 (-0800)
typed the following:


>> It looks like this:
>> brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NA> I am willing to venture a guess that if you look closely enough, you
NA> will find a difference, probably a space or something that was
NA> inadvertently added.
which fields has to be same to say it is the same item ?
handle name and mail ? Or could be differences in gender for example ?

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Re: Recipient macro in New Message template

2002-01-24 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Orrie,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500GMT (24-1-02, 15:27 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

OF> How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make
OF> in recipient info.

I'm using %ABtoFIRSTNAME="%TOFNAME" in my template, that takes the
first name from the address book and if there isn't a corresponding
address book entry, it takes the first name from the TO: header. Works
for new messages and replies the same.

The auto-completion can be set by:
 Options -> Preferences -> System tab -> autocomplete

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Re: Storing attached messages in a separate directory

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas F

Hello Markus,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:22:16 +0100 GMT (24/01/02, 22:22 +0800 GMT),
Markus Gloede wrote:

MG> That's not true. If you want to use a filter, either manual or in
MG> general it has to be active.

You're right. I mixed it up and got it sideways.

IOW you want to de-select Active when you don't want to use this
filter. However, for some reason you don't want to delete it, as you
might need it again later.

MG> The interface is confusing, when Active is de-selected Manual
MG> should be grayed out.

Agree.

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Re: Recipient macro in New Message template

2002-01-24 Thread Thomas F

Hello Orrie,

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:27:54 -0500 GMT (24/01/02, 22:27 +0800 GMT),
Orrie Frutkin wrote:

OF> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME,"

Try the macro %ABToFirstName instead.

AB means addressbook. I found this in the help under "Full alphabetic
list of macros".

OF> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from
OF> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of
OF> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write
OF> the old address. Very puzzling.

Weird indeed.

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Re: making an existing folder a subfolder

2002-01-24 Thread Alastair Scott

On 24 January 2002 at 2:52 pm Rick wrote:

> Is there a way to drag a folder into another folder so that it becomes
> a subfolder? I can use alt-and hold down on a folder to move it but I
> can't seem to get it to go into another folder to become a subfolder.

Ctrl-Alt-drag does it. In general:

i. Alt-drag onto a folder puts the dragged folder at the same level;

ii. Ctrl-Alt-drag onto a folder puts the dragged folder one level below.

A slight oddity with Alt-drag is that, if you do it twice, the folder is
displayed "either side of" the folder at the same level. So, if you have
A in place and B being dragged, the first drag of B onto A gives

- B
- A

and the second of B onto A gives

- A
- B

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Re: making an existing folder a subfolder

2002-01-24 Thread Nils Haag

Hi Rick,

> Is there a way to drag a folder into another folder so that it becomes
> a subfolder? I can use alt-and hold down on a folder to move it but I
> can't seem to get it to go into another folder to become a subfolder.

Use ALT + CTRL to make it a subfolder.

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Re: Recipient macro in New Message template

2002-01-24 Thread Joseph N.

Disregarding for the moment how you have set up your addressbook, if
the content of the To: field is:

"Firstname Lastname" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

does the macro act properly?

JN


 Orrie Frutkin wrote on Thursday, January 24, 2002:

> Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

> The above almost sums up my problem:

> My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," which should render
> a greeting to a recipient by his/her first name. But when I address
> a new message using the Address Book, The Bat! inserts either the
> entire e-mail address or the first part of it after "Hi", even though
> the template says to pick up the recipient's first name. I have filled
> out the name fields on the Properties tabs with First and Last Name,
> Handle and Display Name. In other words, if I address my mail to Joe
> Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED],  TB will usually start the message with "Hi jsmith,"
> or, even worse "Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]," rather than "Hi Joe,"

> Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from
> some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of
> some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write
> the old address. Very puzzling.

> How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make
> in recipient info.


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making an existing folder a subfolder

2002-01-24 Thread Rick Reumann

Is there a way to drag a folder into another folder so that it becomes
a subfolder? I can use alt-and hold down on a folder to move it but I
can't seem to get it to go into another folder to become a subfolder.



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Recipient macro in New Message template

2002-01-24 Thread Orrie Frutkin

Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],

The above almost sums up my problem:

My New Message template begins with "Hi %TOFNAME," which should render
a greeting to a recipient by his/her first name. But when I address
a new message using the Address Book, The Bat! inserts either the
entire e-mail address or the first part of it after "Hi", even though
the template says to pick up the recipient's first name. I have filled
out the name fields on the Properties tabs with First and Last Name,
Handle and Display Name. In other words, if I address my mail to Joe
Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED],  TB will usually start the message with "Hi jsmith,"
or, even worse "Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]," rather than "Hi Joe,"

Also, TB seems to fill in the address of previously used names from
some stored area other than the Address Book, like from a cache of
some sort. I've purposely changed addresses and TB continues to write
the old address. Very puzzling.

How can I get it say "Hi Joe," and get TB to recognize changes I make
in recipient info.

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Re: Storing attached messages in a separate directory

2002-01-24 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Thomas F wrote:

Raj> So what is the logic ?? Under what situation will one leave the
Raj> Active box unchecked.

> When you want to use the filter only when refiltering a folder.

That's not true. If you want to use a filter, either manual or in general
it has to be active. The interface is confusing, when Active is
de-selected Manual should be grayed out.

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Re: Default Addressbook

2002-01-24 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Brano,

On Thursday, January 24 2002 at 01:32 AM PDT, you wrote:

> It looks like this:
> brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am willing to venture a guess that if you look closely enough, you
will find a difference, probably a space or something that was
inadvertently added.


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ABD display order

2002-01-24 Thread Joseph N.

Is there a way to manipulate the display format of all the names in an
address book at once?

I have created a new address book and imported a lot of contacts from
a separate program in vCard format.  They are all listed as "Title
Firstname MI Lastname."  I would rather they were listed as "Lastname,
Firstname MI," but there are too many to go through the entire list.
Any chance there's an EZ remedy?

JN


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Re[2]: Storing attached messages in a separate directory

2002-01-24 Thread Joseph N.

 Thomas F wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2002:

[...]

> Arguments agaisnt storing attachments in message body:

> 1.) It slows down the message base, as it is much bigger then.

> 2.) Some people need the attachment as a seperate file to work with,
> but it still needs to be connected to a particular message.

A message I received some months ago from Stefan, which I no longer
have, noted that the speed issue is associated with prior versions and
no longer is a factor.

I always "need the attachment as a separate file to work with," and
just open it for that purpose, saving it in the directory and with the
name that the purpose requires.

JN


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AB columns: Memo missing

2002-01-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello TBUDL Members!

  Seems in the AB I can add or subtract any field to/from view -
  except for the Memo.

  Bug or wish?


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Re[2]: Default Addressbook

2002-01-24 Thread Brano

Shahar [S], on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 19:48 (+0200) has on
mind:


S> Go to account properties and on the bottom of the window you'll be
S> able to choose the default address book.
while talking about AB...:)
I have question - how is possible, that I have 2 same names with 2
same emails in AB ? Exist some fix for that ? (I don't know how it is
possible to get them there, maybe when I copied contacts from one grou
to other, or some filters...). Now I have to remove duplicates
manually.

It looks like this:
brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
brano [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: GMX Servers Still Prefixing Sentences with ">" ??

2002-01-24 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Carren!

On Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 9:19:01 PM you wrote:

> I don't see why my @gmx.co.uk should make any difference (when I set
> up my accounts I didn't see the option for the .net ending!)

It seems that some of their servers (here: hardware) are configured
with newer software; they don't insert this separator item. It may
actually have to do with the TLD you use, i.e. co.uk was created later
than .de.

I use various addresses from GMX, mostly the one I take for this list
on .net, one is on .li, sitll another is .co.uk. Sometimes I see the
inserted "greater than", sometimes they leave my mail untouched.

To Nick: No, GMX has a tendency to not answer questions of that kind.
The last time I heard from them on this issue was some time ago and
hasn't been that satisfactory ("We see what we can do ...").


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