Re: Converting Outlook Contacts to The Bat ...

[Greg Strong]

Hello Shane,

Monday, April 8, 2002, 12:54:54 AM, you wrote:

SRM> If you need Outlook 200x contacts moved to THE BAT, give this a try:

SRM> http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zakharin/Software/Dawn.html

SRM> Gotta help each other out.

Why did you reply to this thread with regard to this subject?

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Re: MSGID macro

[Torsten Veller]

Hello Miguel,

 you wrote:

> Well, I sadly have to say that when I call the template, I only get
> "mid:"; :-(

Just copy the Message ID with '<' and '>' to the clipboard. It may be
useful to display the Message ID in the Message Header.
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Re: Filters for mailinglist

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Marion, 

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 at 12:34:59 [GMT +0200], you wrote:
M> My TB! is located at e:\TheBat The path that is defined for the
M> files in the zip I downloaded is c:\program files\The Bat\Mail.

M> In the manual it says to adjust the path in de templates and the
M> filters, but I don't seem to be able to find where to do so.
M> That might be the reason the filters don't show up in the sorting
M> office.

Yeah, you've got a little work ahead of you to get the mailing list
up. Here's all the places you'll need to change the paths.

- Account properties/templates/New Message and Reply
- Sorting office/Incoming mail
  - TBLH Subscribe/Actions tab/Send Auto Reply and Run External
Program.
  - TBLH Subscribe Failure/Actions tab/Send Auto Reply
  - TBLH Unsubscribe/Actions tab/Send Auto reply and Run External
Program.
  - TBLH Unsubscribe Failure/Actions tab/Send Auto Reply
  - TBLH Post/Actions tab/Create a Message For
  - TBLH Post failure/Actions tab/Send Auto Reply
- Subscribers folder properties/Template and Reply tabs
- Unsubscribers folder properties/Template and Reply tabs

And if you're planning a digest mode

- Digest folder properties/Template and Reply tabs

Which I'm glad I looked at, because it's wrong. I need to fix that and
re-upload it to the TBLH FAQ page.

That'll take care of all of it. BTW that FAQ is modelled off the The
Bat! List Hosters (TBLH) list which is for all of us running lists
under The Bat!.

You can subscribe at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's free and at the moment almost non-existant traffic. I guess I
wrote the FAQ too well, because not many people seem to be having
problems with it.


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Re[2]: Bookmarks (or References) to Message?

[Greg Strong]

Hello Miguel,

Saturday, April 6, 2002, 5:38:00 PM, you wrote:

MAU> I've got used to colour groups already and use them quite a bit (most
MAU> of them without defining any colour at all), and the only serious
MAU> limitation I have found is that messages can just be assigned to ONLY
MAU> ONE group.

I tried color groups.  Works fine!  As you mention you can only assign one
message to only one group, and not one message to multi-groups.  This is
not a serious limitation for me.

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Converting Outlook Contacts to The Bat ...

[Shane R. Monroe]

If you need Outlook 200x contacts moved to THE BAT, give this a try:

http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~zakharin/Software/Dawn.html

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Re: MSGID macro

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Miguel,

on Mon, 8 Apr 2002 01:17:40 +0200GMT (which was 08.04.02, 01:17 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in
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MAU> Well, I sadly have to say that when I call the template, I only get
MAU> "mid:"; :-(

Strange. Works here, provided there is a mid copied to the clipboard.
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Re: Sending Mail from Outbox?

[Clif Oliver]

I have also experienced the condition were my mail send would be
interrupted.  I would have mail showing in the outbox, but would still
get that message.  Editing the message and re-queuing seemed to work,
although the recipient would sometimes get two copies, depending on
where in the send process I had problems.

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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re[2]: hotmail? & Eudora

[Greg Strong]

Hello Paul,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 5:11:28 PM, you wrote:

PC> eudora 4.x has no export feature, so he can't export

I would say he is SOL.

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Re[2]: How about a print preview feature?

[Peter Ballantyne]

Hello Jan,

Monday, April 8, 2002, 12:17:34 PM, you wrote:

JR> Hello Peter.

JR> At 8:04 PM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following
JR> about [How about a print preview feature?]:

Peter>> a good rootle

JR>   ok, I'll bite? what's a rootle?


Oh dear. I was a little unsure about using that word, in case it meant
something rude somewhere else in the world. In fact, In New Zealand it
is descriptive of what a pig does when looking for food. I was going
to use the phrase "root around", but that really can mean something
rude in New Zealand depending on the person who hears it. Double
meanings and all that stuff. So you can imagine me with my snout
firmly rammed into the software interface, snorting and snuffling as I
search for hidden goodies.

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Re: How about a print preview feature?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Peter.

At 8:04 PM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following
about [How about a print preview feature?]:

Peter> a good rootle

  ok, I'll bite? what's a rootle?

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Re: editor quirks

[Allie C Martin]

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:35:07 -0700, Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these
comments:
...
MR> So... unless something *very* unusual happened, it looks as if you
MR> were reading Michael's message, then hit "Reply", re-named the
MR> subject line, and wrote/sent your message.

I think I need to create a quick template for this.

If you wish to make a new query, which really is to post a new message
on a new subject to the list, you should hit the new message button
instead of simply replying to someone else's message and changing the
subject.

Replying to someone elses message will create unwanted references to
the message being replied to, and your new message to the list will be
threaded with the message referred to in the headers.

If you insist on posting a new message on a new topic to the list by
replying to another message, *please* enable the 'follow-up' to
header field in your editor (View/follow-up To) as shown in the
screenshots.

http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/edit.png
http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/reply.png

Then delete the contents of the 'follow-up' field when the reply
message appears in the editor.

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Re[2]: How about a print preview feature?

[Peter Ballantyne]

Hello Jan,

Monday, April 8, 2002, 11:38:48 AM, you wrote:

JR> Hello Peter

JR> At 4:33 AM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following
JR> about [How about a print preview feature?]:

Peter>> Does anyone know if there are any plans to include a
in case you're in the market for a
JR>   printer, now you'll know.

Now that's am interesting thought. I just scrapped my old Epson (worn
out) a few months ago, and purchased a CanonBJC-2100SP. I never
noticed anything like a preview in the setup for it, but I'll have a
good rootle around in there again to make sure. Many thanks for
bringing it up. Maybe all printer manufacturers could make a preview
facility a standard feature - now wouldn't that be nice!

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Re: How about a print preview feature?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Peter

At 4:33 AM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following
about [How about a print preview feature?]:

Peter> Does anyone know if there are any plans to include a
Peter> print preview feature in The Bat! soon? Many of my
Peter> work emails require printing our, and it would be
Peter> handy.

  Just an FYI, I'm using an Epson stylus printer. Their
  software includes a preview function which I like because
  I don't have to depend on any program for it. Of course,
  it sounds silly to suggest that you buy a printer to solve
  your problem but, in case you're in the market for a
  printer, now you'll know.

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Allie C Martin]

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In a message dated, Mon, 8 Apr 2002 00:37:19 +0200, Luc [L] wrote:
...
L> I also was given the advice to disable auto format because it
L> messed up my PGP sig. Since then no problems anymore.

I don't see how auto-format can break your PGP signatures. Once you've
finished editing and then sign. I think you were misled there.

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Luc]

 Good night Melissa,

It was foretold that on 8-4-2002 @ 15:53:41 GMT-0700 (which was 0:53
where I live) Melissa Reese wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Editor Wrapping and changing message?":
  

MR> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MR> Hash: SHA1

MR> Actually, for my own reasons (as stated in another message in this
MR> thread), I don't advise to disable PGP wrap settings.

Sorry Melissa, after diving into the archives i stand corrected: it
wasn't you who advised me to do that 

MR> As I've mentioned before - that strategy only really works if you only
MR> use PGP with a particular type of message editor. If you need to use
MR> PGP for wider uses, with a variety of editors, a wrap setting in PGP
MR> can be very useful.

Of course, i was referring to my situation as i stated.

MR> I disagree (see above).  What you really need to do is think about how
MR> each editing option works, then use them accordingly.  "Auto-format"
MR> will wrap text to the very same column as "auto-wrap" will, so if
MR> one's PGP wrap is set to a greater number, messages will not be
MR> re-wrapped by PGP, and signatures will be fine.

or PGP wrapping turned off ?

(i've always found the "auto-format", "auto-wrap" somewhat difficult
to grasp but now it's clear as water :-))

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Re: i want to do an automatic backup

[Shane R. Monroe]

I second this idea.  I'd love to be able to backup to a network drive
on initial startup.

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o> Is it possible to do an automatic backup of the bat ?

o> if not i would like to be able to use the command line, a thebat.exe
o> /backup:filename would be great.

o> Thanks


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Re: editor quirks

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 4:23:28 PM PST, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> I'm not sure I understand what YOU mean. when I started that
> message, I'm not sure if I hit forward OR create new email BUT I did
> put a complete new subject line in, "editor quirks". How you know it
> was forwarded from an old message with eudora in the subject I don't
> understand.

Hello Paul,

I have my messages threaded by references.  That means that messages
are threaded by message ID references.  The message ID reference that
is in your message header refers to Michael Disabato's message
entitled:  "Eudora Import Doesn't Work".

Here's the part of *your* message header that shows what you were
"replying" to:

Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 18:53:04 -0400
From: Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: editor quirks
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So... unless something *very* unusual happened, it looks as if you
were reading Michael's message, then hit "Reply", re-named the subject
line, and wrote/sent your message.

Melissa
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Re: Filters for mailinglist

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Marion.

At 6:34 AM on Sunday, April 07, 2002 you wrote the following
about [Filters for mailinglist]:

Marion> [...] The most important part seems to be the
Marion> filters, but I cannot find the predefined ones.
Marion> [...]

Marion> My TB! is located at e:\TheBat The path that is
Marion> defined for the files in the zip I downloaded is
Marion> c:\program files\The Bat\Mail. [/...]

 Are you referring to the default templates that come with
 the program? If so, I don't think it makes any difference
 where the program is installed as long as you installed it
 to the directory you've got it in; i.e. that you didn't
 just move it there.

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Re[2]: editor quirks

[Paul Cartwright]

Hello Melissa,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 7:17:34 PM, you wrote:

MR> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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MR> On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 3:53:04 PM PST, Paul Cartwright wrote:

>> does this make sense ?

MR> Hello Paul,

MR> I'm not sure about the particular quirk you mentioned, as I don't
MR> experience that problem, but I'll tell you what doesn't make any sense
MR> to me...

MR> Starting a completely new subject in apparent reply to a totally
MR> unrelated message.

MR> For mail lists like this one, many of us thread by references. It's
MR> quite possible that if someone was not interested in reading about
MR> importing Eudora messages, your message about a possible editor quirk
MR> would be ignored. I'm not particularly interested in Eudora issues, so
MR> it was just by chance that I happened to stumble upon your message.

MR> Melissa

Hi,
I'm not sure I understand what YOU mean. when I started that message,
I'm not sure if I hit forward OR create new email BUT I did put a
complete new subject line in, "editor quirks". How you know it was
forwarded from an old message with eudora in the subject I don't
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Re[2]: MSGID macro

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Torsten,

>> If you want to refer to a third mail use as quick template:
>> mid:%SETPATTREGEXP='<(.*)>'%REGEXPMATCH='%CLIPBOARD'
>> Just copy the mid into the clipboard can call the template.
> 
> Aha! That's the one I was looking for. Thank you. :-)

Well, I sadly have to say that when I call the template, I only get
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Re: editor quirks

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 3:53:04 PM PST, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> does this make sense ?

Hello Paul,

I'm not sure about the particular quirk you mentioned, as I don't
experience that problem, but I'll tell you what doesn't make any sense
to me...

Starting a completely new subject in apparent reply to a totally
unrelated message.

For mail lists like this one, many of us thread by references. It's
quite possible that if someone was not interested in reading about
importing Eudora messages, your message about a possible editor quirk
would be ignored. I'm not particularly interested in Eudora issues, so
it was just by chance that I happened to stumble upon your message.

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Re[2]: Bookmarks (or References) to Message?

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Allie,

> Have you looked at the Advanced Filtering panel?
> View/Display/Advanced Filtering.

Yes, of course. I even know how to Alt+Click on the message list for
some of its possibilities :)

> You can choose the colour group among other things you desire and
> have only those messages in the particular messages list displayed.

Yes, I know. But then you have to go from folder to folder or use
the Tools/Search if you want to see a list of _all_ the messages in a
group. With VA, you can open a bookmark with a right click on the
status bar.

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Re[4]: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Peter,

> Not Ritlab but Microsoft or IBM or one of the rich Companies

Naaah, I don't like big companies. Too noisy! I've been the only one
in my company for some eight years now and I am used to a quiet
environment. So much that some times I even think that my desktop fan
is too noisy. ;-)

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Re[2]: Mail Merge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Allie,

> I've tried VA and I can sympathise with its former users. VA has quite
> an unusual/different approach to design and how things are done.

When VA started its main market was as an OLR for Compuserve Forums
(including binary libraries) and CIX, although it could also handle
Internet mail and Usenet. That perhaps made it some what peculiar in
some concepts and structure and with a steep learning curve at first.
But it was great for a number of years. And actually it is still is,
but it is now a little outdated in some features.

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Re[2]: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Sebastian,

> Miguel, THANK YOU! It works great now, and I really appreciate the
> work you put into this - WOW! :)

So now you owe me a beer too. If we keep going this way I'm going to
have enough for the whole summer ;-)

> One thing though: how do I get Mailtraq to get NEW news? I got about
> 2,000 messages last nite from one newsgroup, but it doesn't seem to
> get new ones - though it says "last collection at
> whatevertimewas10minutesago" - is that normal? I have nothing to
> download anymore into THE BAT.

That may depend on how active a newsgroups is.

> PS: Also, I have a newsgroup that is downloaded (about 1,500
> messages), but that I had not activated the gateway for when I first
> started out. Now I have the messages but it doesn't forward them to my
> mailbox - again, what am I doing wrong? THANK YOU!

No, I don't think there is any way to forward those messages, at least
I haven't found the way. It happened to me the first time on one of
the groups and I ended up downloading the messages again from the news
server.

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editor quirks

[Paul Cartwright]

 I was just forwarding a message to someone, and here's what happened.
 I hit forward and it puts me int he editor at the bottom of the
 message text. I highlight all the text I can see ( which is only
 about 10 lines of a 40-line message). I hit DELETE and the text goes
 away, leaving me with an empty screen. the right-hand slider bar is
 not there, making me think there is no text left. yet when I hit the
 UP arrow, it begins to scroll thru the message again, and magically
 the slider bar appears ! I had noticed this before ( other message
 forward), but I thought I had just highlighted the complete message
 and wiped out all the text, so I quit and reforwarded it.
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Re: Purpose of

[Luc]

 Good night Sir,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 21:06:37 GMT+0200 (which was 21:06
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"Purpose of":
  
SJ> What  is  the  purpose  of  Menu  Navigator?!?!  By  the  time I spent
SJ> navigating  through  MN, and clicking around I could do what I wanted,
SJ> in a usual way [with shortcuts/mouse] - at least 3x!!!;-)))

MN is a help to those who aren't (yet) familiar with the menus and/ore
shortcuts. So, not for you ;-) (but for me sometimes lol)

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 3:37:19 PM PST, Luc wrote:

> That was my point at first: i had to disable PGP wrapping (but i
> only use one mail editor thank god) and i even believed it was
> Melissa who gave me that advise last year.

Actually, for my own reasons (as stated in another message in this
thread), I don't advise to disable PGP wrap settings.

As I've mentioned before - that strategy only really works if you only
use PGP with a particular type of message editor. If you need to use
PGP for wider uses, with a variety of editors, a wrap setting in PGP
can be very useful.

So - instead of simply advising people to disable PGP wrapping, I
usually recommend finding relative settings that work with a variety
of different editors.

> I also was given the advice to disable auto format because it messed
> up my PGP sig. Since then no problems anymore.

Auto-format in TB! will no more mess up PGP signatures than will
auto-wrap (in other words, if relative wrap settings are properly set,
it won't mess anything up).

Auto-format only messes things up when you want to make a list, or
short lines - with no blank line in between (auto-format wants to wrap
all lines not separated by a blank line into single paragraphs).

Still - this has nothing to do with messing up PGP signatures.

> So in short: disable PGP wrapping and auto format should keep you
> out of trouble. If you enable auto format, chances are that you will
> have a bad sig. At least that was my case. Maybe this set up isn't
> what experienced users have, but it works for me ;-)

I disagree (see above).  What you really need to do is think about how
each editing option works, then use them accordingly.  "Auto-format"
will wrap text to the very same column as "auto-wrap" will, so if
one's PGP wrap is set to a greater number, messages will not be
re-wrapped by PGP, and signatures will be fine.

Melissa
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Re[3]: Mail Merge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Greg,

> After using TB! for only a few days I will say that I like it. Since I am
> only on the 30 day trial, I will probably purchase it without any regard
> to the VA situation.

Smart decision. Assuming they resumed development immediately (and
with Pete in the team), I don't think they could come out with a
"decent" new version in less than one year. Some parts of VA are quite
old code that needs complete re-writing and that is not done over a
weekend.

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Re: viruses and AVG ?

[Luc]

 Good night Rick,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 17:37:01 GMT-0400 (which was 23:37
where I live) Rick Reumann wrote and spread these wise comments on
"viruses and AVG ?":
  

RR> Is there anyway I can now test AVG to make
RR> sure it's working correctly?

 Mailing it again to yourself?

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Re: viruses and AVG ?

[Luc]

 Good night DG,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 15:58:28 GMT-0400 (which was 21:58
where I live) DG Raftery Sr. wrote and spread these wise comments on
"viruses and AVG ?":
  

DRS> All check boxes under E-MAIL SCANNER are
DRS> un-checked.

 Checking those will only have an effect if you use Outlook/Outlook
 express.

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Luc]

 Good night Allie,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 12:55:47 GMT-0500 (which was 19:55
where I live) Allie C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Editor Wrapping and changing message?":
  

ACM> I agree. Disable PGP wrapping and with TB! you never have to worry
ACM> about wrapping messing up your signatures.

 That was my point at first: i had to disable PGP wrapping (but i only
 use one mail editor thank god) and i even believed it was Melissa who
 gave me that advise last year.
 I also was given the advice to disable auto format because it messed
 up my PGP sig. Since then no problems anymore.

 So in short: disable PGP wrapping and auto format should keep you out
 of trouble. If you enable auto format, chances are that you will have
 a bad sig. At least that was my case. Maybe this set up isn't what
 experienced users have, but it works for me ;-)

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Re[2]: MSGID macro

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Torsten,

> If you want to refer to a third mail use as quick template:
> mid:%SETPATTREGEXP='<(.*)>'%REGEXPMATCH='%CLIPBOARD'
> Just copy the mid into the clipboard can call the template.

Aha! That's the one I was looking for. Thank you. :-)

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Re: adress picker

[Luc]

 Good night Roelof,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 20:32:03 GMT+0200 (which was 20:32
where I live) Roelof Otten wrote and spread these wise comments on
"adress picker":
  

RO> The "Don't show unless..." feature only works in the
RO> Address Book.

 Whislist, here i come ;-)

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Re: adress picker

[Luc]

 Good night Peter,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 20:25:48 GMT+0200 (which was 20:25
where I live) Peter Meyns wrote and spread these wise comments on
"adress picker":
  

PM> It shows
PM> no response any more... For illustration I sent a screenshot to TBOT. Or
PM> should I send it to TBBETA?

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Eudora Import Doesn't Work

[Michael Disabato]

Has anyone besides me noticed that the import wizard no longer works
for Eudora? I was successful in getting all of my active folder
imported under 1.53d, but it seems that 1.60 does not function at all.

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Re[4]: How about a print preview feature?

[Peter Ballantyne]

Hello Dave,

Monday, April 8, 2002, 8:53:30 AM, you wrote:

DC> Hi Peter,

DC> Sunday, April 7, 2002, 9:06:16 PM, you wrote:

>>> In the meantime, FinePrint looks good. I might have to keep
>>> using the trial version for a little while,as the price works
>>> out quite expensive in New Zealand currency.

DC> saved over 50% of my
DC> printing costs since I started using it about 18 months ago.
DC> Also, the added functionality is worth the cost alone.

Thank you for your comments Dave. It's always good to hear hard data
from someone with experience with a program. I have to agree that it
looks an outstanding peice of software. I might just have to wait a
few weeks before I can manage to cough up nearly $100.00 NZ for it.

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Fwd: Fwd: Re[2]: hotmail? & Eudora

[Paul Cartwright]

 eudora 4.x has no export feature, so he can't export

===8<==Original message text===
>>  I have a friend who has Eudora 4.x and he can't seem to import his
>>  messages into The Bat!, and there is no export feature in that
>>  version. Any ideas or suggestions for him ?

For those who do NOT have a program that TB! imports the messages, all
they have to do is export their messages into a Unix-mailbox type. I used
VA which could could save the messages in VA's original format. Miguel was
kind enough to provide the search strings to fix the headers in a text
editor such as TextPad to convert the file into Unix-mailbox type.  You
then imported the converted file into TB! as a Unix-mailbox type.
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Re[4]: viruses and AVG ?

[Rick Reumann]

Thanks for the info DG. Is there anyway I can now test AVG to make
sure it's working correctly? I swear this DIF.exe that came with an
image that pretends to look like a .jpg is a virus (has subject "Hi,
Rick Welcome to my hometown") attached to it. AVG isn't picking it up
though.

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 4:56:07 PM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

DRS> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5

DRS> Sunday, April 07, 2002
DRS> 4:52:11 PM
DRS> RE: "viruses and AVG ?"

DRS> Greetings Rick,

DRS> On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 4:27:36 PM, you wrote:

Rick>> On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 3:58:28 PM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:


DRS>>> I have AVG set under RESIDENT SHIELD with all boxes checked then SAVE
DRS>>> PARAMETERS AS NEW DEFAULT. All check boxes under E-MAIL SCANNER are
DRS>>> un-checked. Every virus that has come in via e-mail here has been identified
DRS>>> by the resident scanner.

Rick>>  How does it know to check attachments though as they come in? (or
Rick>>  even after they are all in). I thought resident shield only
Rick>>  worked periodically for whatever time you set it for. In other
Rick>>  words I need to have e-mails that might have a virus
Rick>>  automatically quarantined into a folder or something and at the
Rick>>  very least flagged as maybe being infected so that they aren't
Rick>>  opened by mistake.

DRS> It is scanning consistently with the above settings as AVG is RESIDENT.
DRS> Shortly after the attachment reaches your attachment folder AVG will inform
DRS> you. Should you try and open it AVG will NOT allow it.

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DRS>  DG Raftery Sr.

DRS> I have a dream: 1073741824 bytes free.

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Re[2]: Multi-Boot PC

[Greg Strong]

Hello Peter,

Wednesday, April 3, 2002, 1:34:45 AM, you wrote:

PP> If both installations are set to the same path as 'Mail directory'
PP> everything should be fine. The only thing you can't share within a dual
PP> boot environment are all settings done in registry.
PP> I.e. settings like Font, date format settings, etc ... you'll have to
PP> set up TB! once, than export the registry branch of TB! and import
PP> this one into the other OS for having your account's being recognized

This makes sense to me.

PP> (The name and [if different from default] account dir are stored in
PP> registry, account data itself not).

I'm not certain what you are trying to say here.  I think you are trying
to tell me the account name is stored in the registry.  So if I import the
pertinent portion of the registry into the other OS, I'm okay.  But since
I have only installed TB! once for the trial, it may ask for the account
name on installation.  If account name asked on installation, then any
information provided on the install MUST be the same as what is already in
the registry.

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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Maurice Snellen]

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 20:03:33 [GMT -0600] (which was 4:03
where I live) Dwight A Corrin wrote:

H>>> "Format '%d' invalid or incompatible with argument."

>> I can confirm that

DAC> Not here. I just killed three dups in this folder successfully.

Please note, this bug only comes up if there is nothing to clean up.

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Re: quotestyles

[Maurice Snellen]

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 11:14:50 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:14
where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> Would clearly help with some mails from die-hard BBS users of
DH> olden tyme, who use { or [ or | and what not ...

I come from the BBS world too. Die hard bbs users should learn to
comply with standard Internet netiquette. Not the other way around.

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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Maurice Snellen]

On Saturday, April 6, 2002, at 11:11:44 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:11
where I live) Haico wrote:

H> "Format '%d' invalid or incompatible with argument."

As the translator who made the Dutch translation, it would be my place
to answer this.

I've noticed this bug myself as well. The reason is a typo that caused
'%d' to be in the translation instead of '%s' (the keys are next to
each other on the keyboard). The corrected .LNG file (with
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Re[3]: viruses and AVG ?

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Sunday, April 07, 2002
4:52:11 PM
RE: "viruses and AVG ?"

Greetings Rick,

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 4:27:36 PM, you wrote:

Rick> On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 3:58:28 PM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:


DRS>> I have AVG set under RESIDENT SHIELD with all boxes checked then SAVE
DRS>> PARAMETERS AS NEW DEFAULT. All check boxes under E-MAIL SCANNER are
DRS>> un-checked. Every virus that has come in via e-mail here has been identified
DRS>> by the resident scanner.

Rick>  How does it know to check attachments though as they come in? (or
Rick>  even after they are all in). I thought resident shield only
Rick>  worked periodically for whatever time you set it for. In other
Rick>  words I need to have e-mails that might have a virus
Rick>  automatically quarantined into a folder or something and at the
Rick>  very least flagged as maybe being infected so that they aren't
Rick>  opened by mistake.

It is scanning consistently with the above settings as AVG is RESIDENT.
Shortly after the attachment reaches your attachment folder AVG will inform
you. Should you try and open it AVG will NOT allow it.

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Re[3]: How about a print preview feature?

[Dave Conroy]

Hi Peter,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 9:06:16 PM, you wrote:

>> In the meantime, FinePrint looks good. I might have to keep
>> using the trial version for a little while,as the price works
>> out quite expensive in New Zealand currency.

FinePrint is well worth the money. I have saved over 50% of my
printing costs since I started using it about 18 months ago.
Also, the added functionality is worth the cost alone.
 
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Re: Mail Merge

[Ian Petersen]

Greg,

> I heard this exact statement months ago.  Am I listening to a broken
> record?

Quite possibly. But I did say I JUST - as in this weekend - heard the
little bird sing. I am not, however, privy to any details. All I can
say is that it was a happy song.

> BTW that little bird wouldn't happened to be named
> Amrik?

No.

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Re[2]: viruses and AVG ?

[Rick Reumann]

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 3:58:28 PM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:


DRS> I have AVG set under RESIDENT SHIELD with all boxes checked then SAVE
DRS> PARAMETERS AS NEW DEFAULT. All check boxes under E-MAIL SCANNER are
DRS> un-checked. Every virus that has come in via e-mail here has been identified
DRS> by the resident scanner.

 How does it know to check attachments though as they come in? (or
 even after they are all in). I thought resident shield only
 worked periodically for whatever time you set it for. In other
 words I need to have e-mails that might have a virus
 automatically quarantined into a folder or something and at the
 very least flagged as maybe being infected so that they aren't
 opened by mistake.
 
DRS> Hope this helps.

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DRS>  DG Raftery Sr.

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Re: Dutch TB! users?

[marion]

Op 18:35 7-04-02 +0200 schreef Maurice Snellen:
 >On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 20:30:20 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:30
 >where I live) Marion wrote:
 >
 >M>   Does anyone know if there is a Dutch language TB! users list?

 >* Set up a separate discussion list for Dutch The Bat! users

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Re[2]: How about a print preview feature?

[Peter Ballantyne]

Hello Dierk,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 9:12:19 PM, you wrote:

DH> Hello Peter!

DH> On Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 10:33:24 AM you wrote:

>> Does anyone know if there are any plans to include a print preview
>> feature in The Bat! soon? Many of my work emails require printing our,
>> and it would be handy.

DH> Nice idea, I hope it will come. With a feature to zoom the print (like
DH> FinePrint). Until that surfaces, try FinePrint.



Hello Dierk. Just downloaded the trial version of FinePrint and tried
printing out your post to test it out. Does look nice doesn't it. I've sent a
suggestion to the developers re the print preview idea, and maybe they
will consider it. In the meantime, FinePrint looks good. I might have
to keep using the trial version for a little while,as the price works
out quite expensive in New Zealand currency.

Many thanks for your help.

Peter Ballantyne in New Zealand


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Re: viruses and AVG ?

[DG Raftery Sr.]

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Sunday, April 07, 2002
3:52:41 PM
RE: "viruses and AVG ?"

Greetings Rick,

On Sunday, April 7, 2002, 1:50:55 PM, you wrote:

Rick> I checked the Bat archives but I'd like some more detailed instructions
Rick> on how people have configured AVG to run with The Bat! I currently have
Rick> two files in my inbox  that I'm pretty sure our viruses.. one titled "A
Rick> Special Good Tool" and the other "Hi, Rick, Welcome to my hometown."  I
Rick> just downloaded AVG and run a full computer check and it came up clean.
Rick> I than ran another just on the whole Bat directory, still clean. The
Rick> question I have is, even if these aren't viruses, what is the best way
Rick> to set up AVG to just scan for e-mail viruses. I heard some mention
Rick> that you need to have the attachments go into a separate folder vs
Rick> staying within the message. Is that true? or should AVG still pick up
Rick> the viruses if you keep the attachments within the message body? What I
Rick> don't want happening is all the messages to be downloaded and then my
Rick> brother or wife (who both you my computer with the Bat) to be able to
Rick> click on a virus-infected attachment before AVG has a chance to check
Rick> it.

I have AVG set under RESIDENT SHIELD with all boxes checked then SAVE
PARAMETERS AS NEW DEFAULT. All check boxes under E-MAIL SCANNER are
un-checked. Every virus that has come in via e-mail here has been identified
by the resident scanner.

Hope this helps.

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 DG Raftery Sr.

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Purpose of

[Sir Jinx!]

Hello,

What  is  the  purpose  of  Menu  Navigator?!?!  By  the  time I spent
navigating  through  MN, and clicking around I could do what I wanted,
in a usual way [with shortcuts/mouse] - at least 3x!!!;-)))

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Re: CryptoAPI advapi32.dll on win98

[Sir Jinx!]

4/6/02  at  10:11:35  PM,  on  the  subject "CryptoAPI advapi32.dll on
win98" Oleg Titov said:

OT> I need the file size and its version (use right click, Properties,
OT> second  screen  to  detect  the  version).  The  file  is  in  drive>:\windows\system

Size; 64.0kb, Version;4.80.1675

OT>Thanks!

Don't mention it;-)

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Re[2]: Mail Merge

[Greg Strong]

Hello Allie,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 1:00:29 PM, you wrote:

ACM> I've tried VA and I can sympathise with its former users. VA has quite
ACM> an unusual/different approach to design and how things are done. I
ACM> tried it especially for Newsgroups, but its methods were so different
ACM> that I couldn't make the change, especially since I wasn't convinced
ACM> that it provided a better solution for my needs than Agent or X-News
ACM> did.

IMHO VA was NOT the best at everything. It was the fact that ONLY 1 user
interface was needed for CIS forums, e-mail, & newsgroups. It not only
covered ALL the bases, but did so in ONLY 1 pass over multiple news
servers, e-mail accounts, and CIS. The fact you could use 1 program to do
ALL pretty good was what endured me to VA.

ACM> I guess the reverse would also apply in that migrating from VA to TB!
ACM> could be an awkward ride at first. But there are features in TB! that
ACM> can make you feel at home. It's just a different approach to get
ACM> accustomed to.

Interesting ride is more like it. What it did was force me to look at
other programs which expanded my experience. The most interesting part is
reading how loyal users defend the program of their choice. The learning
curve is NOT an easy hill to climb especially when you are trying to be
productive. In most instances their defense is rooted in the fact that
they've used it for so long, and feel comfortable with it. If they would
open their mind to achieving the same goal a different way, then the
learning would probably be easier.



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Re: adress picker

[Peter Meyns]

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on Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:06:36 +0200GMT (which was 07.04.02, 19:06 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

L> When i compose a new message and use the address picker, all my
L> addresses appear.

L> How can i avoid that so that i get the same appearance as in the AB ?

I wish I knew the answer. I find this quite annoying, too! I really hope
that someone can help here.

In addition to this, and possibly related is the problem I have here
with the favourites picker icon next to the new message button. It shows
no response any more... For illustration I sent a screenshot to TBOT. Or
should I send it to TBBETA?
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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 11:12:52 AM PST, Allie C Martin wrote:

> The drawback is that in TB! you will have to ensure that you reflow
> quoted material that doesn't exceed the PGP wrap setting or else
   ^^^ (?)
> your quoted material will be messed up by PGP wrapping when it
> signs.

Right.  That's what I do.  :-)

I generally want email I send to be wrapped within my preferred column
setting - whether it includes quoted text or not. As long as I'm not
changing the meaning or necessary context by re-flowing someone's
quoted material to my preferred setting, I see no problem with the
practice.

Sometimes, especially with email sent either via inferior clients, or
by careless senders, the only way to make a reply look "decent" is to
re-flow the quoted text.

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Re: Mail Merge

[Allie C Martin]

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In a message dated, Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:34:36 -0500, Greg Strong [GS]
wrote:
...
GS> If they would open their mind to achieving the same goal a
GS> different way, then the learning would probably be easier.

Amen to that. :-)

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Re: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Sebastian,

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:29:58 +0200GMT (7-4-02, 13:29 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

S> PS: Also, I have a newsgroup that is downloaded (about 1,500
S> messages), but that I had not activated the gateway for when I first
S> started out. Now I have the messages but it doesn't forward them to my
S> mailbox - again, what am I doing wrong? THANK YOU!

Enter an interval for the newsserver for how often you'd like to check
it. And allow for news-checking in your dial-up schedule. That's all
there is to it.

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Re: quick menu (was: Multiple Standard replies - pick list)

[Jon Lawrance]

Hello Carsten,

That is a very clever use of templates. I will try it and see how it
works in practice. Thanks!

It just goes to show what a bit of intelligence can do when applied to
something as sophisticated as TB!

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 Jon 

Saturday, April 6, 2002, 6:36:58 AM, you wrote:

CT> Hi Jon, hi list,

CT> * Jon Lawrance (JL) writes:

JL>> When I get an email, quite often I need to choose a reply from a
JL>> possible list of 5 canned answers.

JL>> I understand there are keyboard shortcuts where I can type a keyword
JL>> and hit Alt+space or something like that. But when I have lots of
JL>> different replies for each folder, it gets near impossible to remember
JL>> what they are.

JL>> Is there a way to do this

CT> yes, there is.

JL>> perhaps using another application

CT> no, no ;)

JL>> or is this a high priority feature that The Bat team should look
JL>> at?

CT> [...]

JL>> Any suggestions?

CT> Daniel had the idea in [1]. I found a much simpler way to get a "quick
CT> menu" for quick templates:

CT> Here is the quick template you should use for mails you have to
CT> reply to in different ways using some canned answers:
CT> __
CT> %CLEAR
CT> 
CT> mail from: %OFromName <%OFromAddr>
CT>to: %oToName <%OToAddr>
CT>   subject: %osubj
CT> 
CT> Standard reply template   t_handle_s%cursor
CT>  t_handle_1
CT>handle_2
CT>handle_3
CT> t_hdl_4
CT>  templ_handle_5
CT>   handle_06
CT>  t_handle_7
CT> <...>...
CT> ¯¯

CT> Every time you reply to a message you'll see information about sender,
CT> receiver, subject and describtions and handles (= names) of all
CT> relevant templates you might want to use.

CT> Look at the %cursor macro. Assumed you created quick templates for all
CT> your canned answers you just have to move your cursor down to the
CT> wanted handle and finally press Ctrl+Space. This is really quick! (The
CT> handles must be aligned on right of course)

CT> This is even a better solution than selecting templates directly from
CT> the menu (Utilities -> Insert quick template) because a) you can list
CT> only the templates you want and b) you can order, arrange etc. them as
CT> you like (with separators...).

CT> A canned answer template could look line this (%CLEAR is important!):
CT> __
CT> %CLEAR%-Hello %AbOFromFirstName="%OFromFirstName",

CT> * you wrote:

CT> %QUOTES

CT> No problem, [...]

CT> -- 
CT> Regards, Jon
CT> ¯¯

CT> Maybe one could use such a quick menu as a folder template for some
CT> mailing lists (those without reply-to: and with the need for setting a
CT> to: in folder templates) and let the user choose between "reply to
CT> list", "reply to author" etc.?

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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Haico,

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:43:45 +0200GMT (7-4-02, 11:43 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

H> [dutch language interface]

>> I just installed it a second time and the problem is gone?? :-)
H> No it isn't but I know now when it comes up:

H> When I tested it again after reinstalling I killed a dupe.. But after
H> doing it to another folder I got the error-message again..

H> So I copied a message from that folder to another and moved the copy
H> back again.. As it shows: I'll get the message when there *aren't* any
H> dupes in the folder..

That reproduces here. Guess I was lucky the first time that I tried it
in a folder with dupes. ;-)

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Re: adress picker

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Luc,

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:06:36 +0200GMT (7-4-02, 19:06 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

L>  Still they all appear. How can i avoid that so that i get the same
L>  appearance as in the AB ?

Unfortunately, you can't. IIRC There's been a discussion about that
this year. The "Don't show unless..." feature only works in the
Address Book.


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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

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ACM> The drawback is that in TB! you will have to ensure that you reflow
ACM> quoted material that doesn't exceed the PGP wrap setting or else
  ^^^
  that word shouldn't be there. :-)
ACM> your quoted material will be messed up by PGP wrapping when it signs.

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Re[2]: Multiple Standard replies - pick list

[Jon Lawrance]

Hello Allie,

I am using "ReplyAssistant" and it does ok. You can drag and drop
text. But...I have to then copy and paste the To address (sometimes)
and the Subject.

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Friday, April 5, 2002, 8:17:45 PM, you wrote:

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ACM> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:58:18 +0100, Jon Lawrance [JL] graced us with
ACM> these comments:
ACM> ...
JL>> Smart Bat is too slow to use. I have faster solutions than that
JL>> already in place.

ACM> Would you care to share that with us? I'm curious about how you're
ACM> choosing to manage all those quick templates? Or did you get yourself
ACM> a specialist macro tool, like PowerPro for instance?

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Allie C Martin]

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:03:36 -0700, Melissa Reese [MR] wrote these
comments:
...
MR> If you only use PGP with clients/editors that deal with wrapping
MR> in one uniform "WYSIWYG" way, then that's fine. However - if you
MR> use PGP with several different clients/editors, and some deal with
MR> wrapping differently than others, there is a place for having a
MR> wrap set in PGP. This is my situation, so I prefer having a wrap
MR> set in PGP.

In this case, your original suggestion is one that will work for you
and others in your situation, i.e., to set the PGP wrapping to 2 or so
characters above the TB! setting and 2 or so characters below the wrap
setting for other clients that reflow text upon sending *after* pgp
has done its own text reflowing.

The drawback is that in TB! you will have to ensure that you reflow
quoted material that doesn't exceed the PGP wrap setting or else
your quoted material will be messed up by PGP wrapping when it signs.

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 10:41:02 AM PST, Jernej Simonèiè wrote:

> No, that won't be good, as this will sooner or later wrap quotes.
> The best is to disable wrapping.

Hello Jernej,

Disable PGP's wrapping? (more on this in a bit)

Unless what I'm quoting *must* remain quoted at a certain column to
retain the original sender's formatting intentions, I re-wrap quotes
to my own TB! wrap setting as part of my composition.

For instance - I prefer a wrap setting of 70 characters. If you send
me a message with a wrap set to 76 characters, and the only difference
being that your paragraphs are wider than my preferred width, I'll be
happy to re-wrap your quoted text in my reply to my preferred 70
characters - as part of *my* reply composition.

It is a very rare instance when a bit of quoted material must be
quoted without being re-wrapped to the replier's preferred wrap
setting. Perhaps in the case of quoting "ascii art", wrapped at a
greater column number, but how often must we do that sort of thing?

About disabling PGP's wrapping altogether...

If you only use PGP with clients/editors that deal with wrapping in
one uniform "WYSIWYG" way, then that's fine. However - if you use PGP
with several different clients/editors, and some deal with wrapping
differently than others, there is a place for having a wrap set in
PGP. This is my situation, so I prefer having a wrap set in PGP.

In any event, I've worked out relative wrap settings between my
PGP/GnuPG and my various editors so that I don't have to change
settings anywhere, and wrapping/signing do not come into conflict.

Melissa
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Re: Mail Merge

[Allie C Martin]

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@ 12:23:24 -0500 [ Sun, 7 Apr 2002], Greg Strong [GS] wrote these
words of wisdom:
...
GS> After using TB! for only a few days I will say that I like it.
GS> Since I am only on the 30 day trial, I will probably purchase it
GS> without any regard to the VA situation.

I've tried VA and I can sympathise with its former users. VA has quite
an unusual/different approach to design and how things are done. I
tried it especially for Newsgroups, but its methods were so different
that I couldn't make the change, especially since I wasn't convinced
that it provided a better solution for my needs than Agent or X-News
did.

I guess the reverse would also apply in that migrating from VA to TB!
could be an awkward ride at first. But there are features in TB! that
can make you feel at home. It's just a different approach to get
accustomed to.

Good luck!

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Allie C Martin]

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 19:41:02 +0200, Jernej Simonèiè [JS] wrote these
comments:
...
JS> No, that won't be good, as this will sooner or later wrap quotes. The
JS> best is to disable wrapping.

 in the PGP settings and not TB!'s. :-) Just to be sure you aren't
misunderstood.

I agree. Disable PGP wrapping and with TB! you never have to worry
about wrapping messing up your signatures.

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viruses and AVG ?

[Rick Reumann]

I checked the Bat archives but I'd like some more detailed
instructions on how people have configured AVG to run with The Bat! I
currently have two files in my inbox  that I'm pretty sure our
viruses.. one titled "A Special Good Tool" and the other "Hi, Rick,
Welcome to my hometown."  I just downloaded AVG and run a full
computer check and it came up clean. I than ran another just on the
whole Bat directory, still clean. The question I have is, even if
these aren't viruses, what is the best way to set up AVG to just scan
for e-mail viruses. I heard some mention that you need to have the
attachments go into a separate folder vs staying within the message.
Is that true? or should AVG still pick up the viruses if you keep the
attachments within the message body? What I don't want happening is
all the messages to be downloaded and then my brother or wife (who
both you my computer with the Bat) to be able to click on a
virus-infected attachment before AVG has a chance to check it.

If there are any other decent virus checkers that work well with the
Bat (preferably free:), please let me know.

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Melissa,
 
07. april 2002, 19:30:07, you wrote:

MR> Since TB! creates hard returns at the wrap setting of your choice, all
MR> you have to do is set your PGP wrap to a couple characters greater
MR> than your TB! wrap.  This way, your signed message will look *exactly*
MR> as it does when you finish typing, and the signature will be "good".

No, that won't be good, as this will sooner or later wrap quotes. The
best is to disable wrapping.

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Re[2]: hotmail? & Eudora

[Greg Strong]

Hello Paul,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 6:22:37 AM, you wrote:

>>  I have a friend who has Eudora 4.x and he can't seem to import his
>>  messages into The Bat!, and there is no export feature in that
>>  version. Any ideas or suggestions for him ?

PC> Hmm.. TB! has an import-feature for Eudora.. If that doesn't work.. I
PC> don't know what will.. The mail-inbox wizard has an option for Eudora.

PC> I'm thinking that his version 4.X is not current, the latest is 5.X
PC> and his older version doesn't work the same. He says the import either
PC> locks up, or finishes with no entries being imported.

For those who do NOT have a program that TB! imports the messages, all
they have to do is export their messages into a Unix-mailbox type. I used
VA which could could save the messages in VA's original format. Miguel was
kind enough to provide the search strings to fix the headers in a text
editor such as TextPad to convert the file into Unix-mailbox type.  You
then imported the converted file into TB! as a Unix-mailbox type.

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Re[2]: Mail Merge

[Greg Strong]

Hello Ian,

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 4:47:22 AM, you wrote:

IP> Well, a little bird just told me miracles do happen. Can't say more
IP> just yet. 

I heard this exact statement months ago.  Am I listening to a broken
record?  I'll believe it when I see it, and will keep my one good eye open
looking for it.   BTW that little bird wouldn't happened to be named
Amrik?

After using TB! for only a few days I will say that I like it. Since I am
only on the 30 day trial, I will probably purchase it without any regard
to the VA situation.


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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Melissa Reese]

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On Sunday, April 07, 2002, at 9:56:51 AM PST, Luc wrote:

>  It can be a bit tricky though if you use something like PGP. I
>  experienced some problems with it in the past: it messes up the
>  signature from time to time.

Hello Luc,

It's not really "tricky" at all. In fact, with an editor like The
Bat!'s, PGP compatibility is easier than with most other email
clients.

Since TB! creates hard returns at the wrap setting of your choice, all
you have to do is set your PGP wrap to a couple characters greater
than your TB! wrap.  This way, your signed message will look *exactly*
as it does when you finish typing, and the signature will be "good".

Melissa
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Re: quotestyles

[Thomas Martin]

Hi Dierk,

On Sunday, 7.April 2002 @ 11:14:50 [GMT +0200][06:14 where i live] 
you wrote on: "quotestyles":


MT>>> Hmm...none of this really removes the ">" from the replies. I've
MT>>> yet to find a way to replace the ">" with "any other character".

It is posible to change that symbole. Make two templates:

1. template:  Name: NQ
%REM=_Cut out part before '^-- $'_%-
%REM=_and insert it into comment_%-
%REM=_Call QT_%-
%-
%COMMENT="%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?ism)[\n]*(.*?)[\n]*((-- [\n])|\z)'%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%text'%-
%SUBPATT='1'"%-
%QINCLUDE="nq2"

2. Template  name:NQ2
%REM=_Does comment have two or more lines?_%-
%REM=_If yes: print | and the first line_%-
%REM=_ cut that line from comment_%-
%REM=_ and call this QT again_%-
%REM=_If no: print | and the last line and exit_%-
%-
%IF:"%-
%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?is).*?[\n](.*)'%-
%REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'x"<>"x"%-
:"%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(.*?)[\n]'%-
| %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'
%-
%COMMENT='%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is).*?[\n](.*)""%-
%REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_'%-
%QINCLUDE='nq2'"%-
:%-
"| %COMMENT%COMMENT=''"%- 


%QINCLUDE="NQ" instead of %QUOTES in youy email template

In this example the quote sign is "|". If you want another , change it
in NQ2.
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Re: Dutch TB! users?

[Luc]

 Good evening Maurice,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 18:35:06 GMT+0200 (which was 18:35
where I live) Maurice Snellen wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Dutch TB! users?":
  

MS> * Set up a separate discussion list for Dutch The Bat! users

 Excellent idea !!

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Re: Dutch TB! users?

[jsmn]

Op zondag 7 april 2002 schreef Maurice:

> * Set up a separate discussion list for Dutch The Bat! users

sign me up.

jsmn

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adress picker

[Luc]

 Good evening list,

 When i compose a new message and use the address picker, all my
 addresses appear. I have two AB with groups and set the groups up in
 the way that the addresses do not appear ("hide items").

 Still they all appear. How can i avoid that so that i get the same
 appearance as in the AB ?

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Re: Editor Wrapping and changing message?

[Luc]

 Good evening Allie,

It was foretold that on 7-4-2002 @ 02:48:58 GMT-0500 (which was 9:48
where I live) Allie C Martin wrote and spread these wise comments on
"Editor Wrapping and changing message?":
  

ACM> Auto-wrap is what does the initial wrapping as you type. Unlike
ACM> Auto-format, it only does its thing once. TB!'s editor doesn't soft
ACM> wrap at all and this is part of the whole issue of how it behaves. It
ACM> doesn't do soft returns at all, and there's no adjustment of
ACM> formatting done upon sending the message, which is what most other
ACM> clients do. This is why you're always seeing the exact formatting the
ACM> recipient will receive.

 It can be a bit tricky though if you use something like PGP. I
 experienced some problems with it in the past: it messes up the
 signature from time to time.

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Re: Dutch TB! users?

[Maurice Snellen]

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 20:30:20 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:30
where I live) Marion wrote:

M>   Does anyone know if there is a Dutch language TB! users list?

As indicated, the list that is currently available is a list that was
set up to discuss the Dutch translation of 'The Bat!' that I'm doing.
Also, as you can see in the header, I've changed my e-mail address so
if you want to contact me directly, please use this instead of the
address that was mentioned earlier.

As RITLabs has released the IntPack by now, and therefore the
translation is more generally available, we could go two ways:

* Set up a separate discussion list for Dutch The Bat! users
* Change the current list into a general discussion list

There is no problem for me in running more than one list (I have
several for multiple domains on my mailserver already).

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Re: The return of the zombies

[Maurice Snellen]

On Saturday, March 30, 2002, at 01:28:19 [GMT +0100] (which was 2:28
where I live) Karin Spaink wrote:

KS> Currently I am witnessing the return of the Inbox-Known
KS> mailbox and filter _again_.

I don't want to use the Inbox-Known mailfolders either, but there are
a few accounts where I want to use the  filter though. In any
case I've noticed that you need to point the  filter to your
regular 'Inbox'. As a result, active or not, you can delete the
'Inbox-Known' mailfolders without them auto-returning.

No wooden stakes, silver bullets or head-chopping required.

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Re: maybe I'm dense but...

[Maurice Snellen]

On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 03:35:41 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:35
where I live) John Galvin wrote:

JG> The only disadvantage i see with this, is when i go to compose a
JG> normal window, and i click on the AB to insert someones email
JG> address, I am confronted with all the spammers addresses.

This can easily be avoided. Assuming you use only one addressbook for
your autocomplete and don't depend on information in the LDAP-styled
address books, you can simply create a new Address Book for the
spammers and define a group 'Spammers' there. Then in the filter you
can refer to that group (you need the group because the filter works
with groups, not address books).

In Options->Preferences->System you set autocomplete to work only from
the standard addressbook (assigned to the account) and optionally
include the input history.

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Re[3]: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Peter Kerekes]

Hello Miguel,

Saturday, April 6, 2002, 5:58:05 PM, you wrote:



MAU> So that means you got it working, right?

Yes, perfectly.

>> You should do this (write instructions, manuals)
>> processionally.

MAU> Are you suggesting that RITLabs pays me for writing TB!'s HELP? ;)

Not Ritlab but Microsoft or IBM or one of the rich Companies

MAU> You owe me a beer now ;-)

Next time when I will be in Spain. (who knows?)


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Re: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Sebastian]

Miguel, THANK YOU! It works great now, and I really appreciate the
work you put into this - WOW! :)

One thing though: how do I get Mailtraq to get NEW news? I got about
2,000 messages last nite from one newsgroup, but it doesn't seem to
get new ones - though it says "last collection at
whatevertimewas10minutesago" - is that normal? I have nothing to
download anymore into THE BAT.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thank you,

Sebastian. :)

PS: Also, I have a newsgroup that is downloaded (about 1,500
messages), but that I had not activated the gateway for when I first
started out. Now I have the messages but it doesn't forward them to my
mailbox - again, what am I doing wrong? THANK YOU!

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From: Miguel A. Urech - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sebastian - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 12:31:45 PM
Subject: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

Hello Sean,

> Thanks for the detailed instructions, Miguel.  This rocks!

Like I told Peter yesterday, you owe me a beer now ;-)

Anybody else? %-)

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Re: hotmail? & Eudora

[Paul Cartwright]

Msg: #31 in digest
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 15:26:41 +0200
From: Haico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hotmail? & Eudora

On 6-4-2002 at 14:00, Paul Cartwright wrote:

Hi Paul,

>  I am trying The Bat!, and I haven't found the answer to this, so I
>  thought I'd ask. I have a hotmail account, and pull it in to Outlook
>  Express now. Can I do that with The Bat! ??

  No you can't. TB! cannot fetch mail from a http-server.

   If you really want to do this you can prob. use an external program like
http://pop3hot.com/. The downside is that you have to pay for it. I
was on a pegasus-user-list for a while and this question popped up
 frequently..  And I've never heard of a free program which can do this.

(never used it myself btw)


Thanks ! I think I'll just try to work with my current email and get
used to filters

>  I have a friend who has Eudora 4.x and he can't seem to import his
>  messages into The Bat!, and there is no export feature in that
>  version. Any ideas or suggestions for him ?

Hmm.. TB! has an import-feature for Eudora.. If that doesn't work.. I
don't know what will.. The mail-inbox wizard has an option for Eudora.

I'm thinking that his version 4.X is not current, the latest is 5.X
and his older version doesn't work the same. He says the import either
locks up, or finishes with no entries being imported.




>  Good thing I set this list up for DIGEST, I don't think I could have
>  handled 100 messages in my inbox !

hmm.. If you made a filter for this list, for directing mail to a
specific folder, you can keep your inbox clean.

Haico

I'll change from digest once I get the filter working, thanks !

and thanks to Roelof Groetjes  and Dierk Haasis for your responses also !
I'll work more on the filters. being an old UNIX guy ( awk sed..) I'm
familiar with how to filter, I just need to get used to TB.

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Re[2]: Mail Merge

[Clive Taylor]

Sunday, April 7, 2002, 10:47:22 AM, you wrote:

> Miguel,

>> I would also probably go back to VA if it was resurrected. But, so
>> far, I don't believe in miracles.

> Well, a little bird just told me miracles do happen. Can't say more
> just yet. 


I've just joined this list and seen your comments about VA. Without
doubt, VA shaped my Internet experience when I first plugged my modem
into the wall some years ago. Like you, I just hope someone picks it
up and gives it a bit of oil before it seizes up finally. I still use
the newsreader and just _can't_ get to grips with any of the
alternatives.

Nice to see this list.

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Re: MSGID macro

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Peter,
On Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 12:29:14 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

PM> Can I achieve this display automatically or is manual editing the
PM> only way?

Just replace %OMSGID with this RegExp:

"%REGEXPMATCH="%OMSGID">

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Re: MSGID macro

[Peter Meyns]

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MDP> I use this: mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=";<(.*)>"%REGEXPMATCH="%OMSGID"

Thank you Marck,

as I understand, this takes away the <> chars. Great! :)
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Re: MSGID macro

[Torsten Veller]

Hello Peter,

 at 12:29 you wrote:

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Can I achieve this display automatically or is manual editing the only
> way?

You can use mid:%SETPATTREGEXP='<(.*)>'%REGEXPMATCH='%OMSGID' in your
reply-template.

If you want to refer to a third mail use as quick template:
mid:%SETPATTREGEXP='<(.*)>'%REGEXPMATCH='%CLIPBOARD'
Just copy the mid into the clipboard can call the template.

Is it possible to add a "search the message" in the context menu of links
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Re: MSGID macro

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Peter,

@07 April 2002, 12:29:14 +0200 (11:29 UK time) Peter Meyns wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Can I achieve this display automatically or is manual editing the only
> way?

I use this: mid:%SETPATTREGEXP=";<(.*)>"%REGEXPMATCH="%OMSGID"

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Re[2]: Mail Merge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Ian,

> Well, a little bird just told me miracles do happen. Can't say more
> just yet. 

I'll be listening :-)

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Re[2]: Newsgroups with The Bat! and MailTraq

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Sean,

> Thanks for the detailed instructions, Miguel.  This rocks!

Like I told Peter yesterday, you owe me a beer now ;-)

Anybody else? %-)

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Filters for mailinglist

[Marion]

Hello tbudl,

I am struggling with setting up a mailinglist with TheBat.
The most important part seems to be the filters, but I cannot find the
predefined ones. Probably due to a different path for my installation
of the Bat.

My TB! is located at e:\TheBat
The path that is defined for the files in the zip I downloaded is c:\program
files\The Bat\Mail.
In the manual it says to adjust the path in de templates and the
filters, but I don't seem to be able to find where to do so.
That might be the reason the filters don't show up in the sorting
office.

Can someone enlighten me, please?
  

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MSGID macro

[Peter Meyns]

Hi all,

when I use the message-id macro (%OMSGID) in a template it produces
something like this: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

In order to have TB! open the respective message instead of a new editor
window however it has to look like this:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Can I achieve this display automatically or is manual editing the only
way?

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Re: i want to do an automatic backup

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Saturday, April 6, 2002, 23:04, onetelmail wrote:

> Is it possible to do an automatic backup of the bat ?

I use Windows scheduler to backup TB! each night.

First I run

C:\WINNT\regedit.exe /e "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\TheBat.reg" 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\RIT

to export TB!'s register settings, then - a few minutes later - I
backup "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\*".

Of course you could modify this to suite your needs, you could for
example create a batch file which exports the registry settings and
then zip or rar "C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\*".

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Re: Mail Merge

[Ian Petersen]

Miguel,

> I would also probably go back to VA if it was resurrected. But, so
> far, I don't believe in miracles.

Well, a little bird just told me miracles do happen. Can't say more
just yet. 

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Re: Vertical & Horizontal Windows reversed in TB! 1.60c

[wired]

ON Saturday, April 6, 2002, 9:29:30 AM, you wrote:

GS> Hello TBUL,

GS>   View | Split Mode | Vertical & Horizontal Split modes are reversed.
GS>   Probably documented already, but thought I would mention.

Hi Greg,
 You just stepped in it, like I did a while ago.
 People will now start enplaning how they interpret Horizontal and
 Vertical. But I am with you.

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Re: quotestyles

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Dierk,
On Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 11:14:50 [GMT +0200], you wrote:

DH> It would be a good idea to make it configurable like Agent does

Maybe. But that would make it impossible to use certain characters at
the beginning of a line.

Personally, I like the idea of having *one* character as a quote sign as
the de facto standard and *not* making it configurable. There are too
many people out there who would jump on such a feature and make "§"
their default quote sign (or something even more stupid) just to be
different from all the others.

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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Haico]

[dutch language interface]

On 7-4-2002 at 11:31, Haico wrote to Roelof Otten on tbudl:

Hi myself, ;-)

> I just installed it a second time and the problem is gone?? :-)

No it isn't but I know now when it comes up:

When I tested it again after reinstalling I killed a dupe.. But after
doing it to another folder I got the error-message again..

So I copied a message from that folder to another and moved the copy
back again.. As it shows: I'll get the message when there *aren't* any
dupes in the folder..

And it's not really a problem :-) It's not good, but I'll just treat
it as: *there are no dupes to kill*

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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Haico]

On 7-4-2002 at 10:58, Roelof Otten wrote:

Hai Roelof,

H>> When I want to kill dupes in a folder I get this error-message:

H>> "Format '%d' invalid or incompatible with argument."

H>> Hope that this will be corrected in the next update of
H>> the language pack.

> Something might have gone awry when installing the latest intpack,
> since the problem doesn't occur here. Not when using English and not
> when using Dutch.

I just installed it a second time and the problem is gone?? :-)

{I took some precautions and tested several interfaces, and the
problem only came up with the Dutch one, but that doesn't matter
anymore.. I guess..}

Thank you very much!

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Re: quotestyles

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Lars!

On Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 10:08:53 AM you wrote:

MT>> Hmm...none of this really removes the ">" from the replies. I've yet
MT>> to find a way to replace the ">" with "any other character".

> Fortunately, this is not possible. This would really mess up the
> highlighting of quotes.

It would be a good idea to make it configurable like Agent does i,
just put in characters that are quote prefixes. Would clearly help
with some mails from die-hard BBS users of olden tyme, who use { or [
or | and what not ...


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Re: How about a print preview feature?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Peter!

On Sunday, April 7, 2002 at 10:33:24 AM you wrote:

> Does anyone know if there are any plans to include a print preview
> feature in The Bat! soon? Many of my work emails require printing our,
> and it would be handy.

Nice idea, I hope it will come. With a feature to zoom the print (like
FinePrint). Until that surfaces, try FinePrint.


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Re: Dutch lang. interf. / Bug.

[Haico]

On 7-4-2002 at 3:30, Roel wrote:

Hi Roel,

H>> "Format '%d' invalid or incompatible with argument."

> I can confirm that, but the 'kill dupes in all folders' ("verwijder
> duplicaten in alle mappen") does work as expected :-)

Yes it does. :-)

But I still keep on using the english interface.. I'll wait till this
is corrected.

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