Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
Messages have been posted about this and no help. The fact that I have to rebuild me entire message base just to read the posts makes it difficult to interact. Any help? Give it. I'll listen and try it. I refuse to use a Microsoft Product for email, so to keep the discussion going, I have no choice but Eudora. Michael At 04:12 AM 5/2/2002 +0100, you wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Hi Michael, > >@02 May 2002, 20:02:00 -0700 (04:02 UK time) Michael L. Wilson wrote >in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Ever since 1.60h, after every power-cycle, all registry entries for > > The Bat are gone. All mail is gone, all folders are gone. I > > deleted everything and went back to 1.60c, and the same thing > > occurs. > >Sounds like you've got something weird in your startup procedure or >some kind of fail-safe restoring the registry behind your back. >Whatever. It's nothing to do with The Bat! The Bat! is the victim, not >the culprit. > > > Therefore, I am, deleting the bat, never to return. > >As you wish. Eudora is a bit of a silly choice, but each to their own >I guess. > > > The bat is a virus. > >LOL! Now you're being ridiculous! Hey - perhaps SpamKiller did it? > > >- -- >Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator >SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 >· >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >iD8DBQE80K6kOeQkq5KdzaARAs0+AJ9NhBga+j/bmkIZovl0WWVg5aTgSACdFibI >Ec8/FacHaNA4WjXzx3mG7+E= >=Di3M >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > >Current Ver: 1.60h >FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com >Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com >Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
Greetings, I have been a TB user for years. I love it. I use it all the time. I even tried some beta releases with never a major problem. I download 1.60h and the next day (after my computer has been off all night), I turn it on and all my mail is gone. I have backed up my TBB files, so I rebuild everything. Next day, all my mail is gone. So, I uninstall everything, delete the directory and install 1.60c and rebuild (by this time, two of my TBB message files will not import into 1.60c). The next day, all my mail is gone. You tell me... Michael At 09:41 PM 5/1/2002 -0700, you wrote: >On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:02:00 PM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > > > > Ever since 1.60h, after every power-cycle, all registry entries for The > Bat > > are gone. All mail is gone, all folders are gone. I deleted everything > > and went back to 1.60c, and the same thing occurs. Therefore, I am, > > deleting the bat, never to return. The bat is a virus. > >Michael, this could be any number of things...you should stick with it and >ask some questions of the list...you'd certainly get some help. I bet it >has more to do with settings on your computer/OS than it does with TB!. > >-- >Regards, > Mattmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Current Ver: 1.60h >FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com >Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com >Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Known" filter
In the Account filters, there is a filter for the Incoming mail. How can I add that same filter to Sent mail? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 mail management question
Yes, the feature works. But it wouldn't get you anywhere with the
configuration you outlined.
I believe that if you check both the 'keep on server for x days' and
also the 'delete when deleted from trash,' then TB! takes the earlier
of the two, i.e., it looks at them as disjunctive, as 'or.' When you
then also set TB! to delete trash on exit, the end result is that your
mail will be deleted from the server each time you exit The Bat!
It's hard to make a recommendation without knowing what you want to
accomplish. (For me, the goal is to keep messages on the server until
they are likely to have been backed up from my local machine, which is
at least daily. Consequently, I keep them on the server for 2 days,
delete them when they're deleted from trash, but then also configure
my trash to keep messages for 2 days ('keep in msg base for 2 days,'
'remove old msgs,' and 'compress folder on exit'). I generally do not
manually delete the trash, unless there's a lot of spam, or infected
email, that I want to delete as soon as possible from my machine and
from the server.)
On a different note, unless you really need to check for msgs every 3
minutes, that's a lot of load on all resources involved. Perhaps
every 10 or 20 minutes would be sufficient?
JN
Mark Knipfer wrote on Wednesday, May 01, 2002:
> Does the "Keep messages on server for [N ] days" feature actually work? I
> have attempted to use this feature in other programs where it did not
> work.
> I thought about using these settings in TheBat!:
> Account | Properties | Mail management
> (*) Leave messages on server
> [v] Keep messages on server for[3 ] days
> [v] Delete message from server when it is removed from the Trash
> Account | Properties | Options
> [ ] Check mailbox at start-up
> [v] Periodical checking each [3 ] [minutes ]
> [v] Empty Trash folder on exit
> where I could allow TheBat! to maintain my POP3 mail for me.
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Dragging Folders and misc.
1. How do you drag a Account to a different location? I created a Common $Known$ folder. It was put at the bottom of the Account list. I managed to drag it to the top so it is the first "account" in the tree. Now I want to put it between Account 2 and 3; and I have no luck in changing the order. It refuse to budge from the top. I know you drag by holding down the Alt key. Where do you drag the cursor to? And when do you release the mouse and the Alt key? 2. I jumped from v1.53 to 1.60c. Is there a way in this version to set the default view to "only unread messages" so that I don't have to do View | Display | Only Unread messages every time I launch The Bat? 3. What does SmartBat (under Tools) do? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:02:00 PM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > Ever since 1.60h, after every power-cycle, all registry entries for The Bat > are gone. All mail is gone, all folders are gone. I deleted everything > and went back to 1.60c, and the same thing occurs. Therefore, I am, > deleting the bat, never to return. The bat is a virus. Michael, this could be any number of things...you should stick with it and ask some questions of the list...you'd certainly get some help. I bet it has more to do with settings on your computer/OS than it does with TB!. -- Regards, Mattmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shortcut for Message ID Link?
Hello TBUL, IIRC members of this list would reference another message in the list that could be left double clicked with the mouse & TB! would open the message & go to it. In the original message it would look something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a shortcut for doing this in TB!? I scan the FAQ without luck? TIA! -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using TB! v1.60c Windows 98 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Disabato [MD] wrote: ... ACM>> when you apply and download a set of keys). Once I imported the ACM>> keys back into the system key repository, I could now verify ACM>> messages. This makes sense since switching to MS CryptAPI means ACM>> that you're switching S/MIME control over to the system and it's ACM>> your keys installed in Windows and not TB! that will be used. MD> This is most interesting. I don't have my certs installed under MD> the Windows registry. They are only imported into TB!. This puts MD> them into a single location I can back up and not worry about when MD> I restore the system. I wouldn't want my PGP/GPG implementation to be only bound to TB! since I use PGP/GPG outside the scope of e-mail. I therefore store my PGP keys in one place to be used by TB! and for other purposes (even across machines). The same principle holds for an S/MIME certificate since it can be used outside the scope of e-mail as well. I see you aren't interested or have use for your S/MIME certificate outside e-mail. This is the potential advantage that I was siting. One central point from where it can be managed. But hey, the choice of where to manage your keys from is there (not currently in the broken 1.60h) and that's what choice is for. Your mileage may vary and your needs may be different. No problem there. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80L6NV8nrYCsHF+IRAg8+AKD+NS9xcAZIEC1RxPfVuzBIydJy4wCdEBQw GoYyYPtIsR7oTBxEeD3hFbg= =e3nJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A Disgrace for TB! To Be CNET's "Pick"?
So TB! is in CNET's top4, huh? The ratio of 96:4 is meaningless as you have to discount the massive advertising (IncrediMail) and preinstalled-on-most-machines (Outlook Express) factors, along with the fact that most of the 96% have never heard of any alternatives to IncrediCrap -- in contrast to the 4%, most of whom only came to use alternative products after having suffered at the hands of Outlook and its ilk. The 96% figure would be much lower if these people gave other products a try. Alex. of Slovakia www.avenarius.sk [flying with "The Bat!", Version 1.60] This is a forwarded message From: CNET Download.com for PC Date: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 at 21:04:52 (GMT -0700 PDT) Subject: This week: Browser brouhaha ===8<==Original message text=== Download Dispatch - PC Edition [...] Your feedback from last week about what e-mail clients you use showed an overwhelming preference for IncrediMail and Outlook (48 percent each), with the remaining 4 percent using PocoMail, The Bat, and Web-based e-mail. Wayne Cunningham Features Editor, CNET Download.com [...] PICKS OF THE WEEK [...] In Business & Finance [??? (AA)] IncrediMail Xe Build 660 License: Free File size: 5.3MB Minimum requirements: Windows 95/98/Me/2000/XP Think outside the inbox with this innovative e-mail client. IncrediMail allows you to personalize e-mail according to your mood and personality, and it includes an assortment of e-mail backgrounds, animations, sounds, 3D effects, and e- cards. This new release includes emoticons, dancing letters, random notifier selection, read receipts, and support for MSN and Hotmail accounts. [...] ===8<===End of original message text=== This is a forwarded message From: CNET Download.com for PC Date: Wednesday, 24 April 2002 at 21:02:20 (GMT -0700 PDT) Subject: This week: Elegant e-mail ===8<==Original message text=== Download Dispatch - PC Edition [...] ELEGANT E-MAIL Sifting through the thousands of reader e-mails I get each week, I am consistently delighted by the vast array of text styles and backgrounds. Reading a missive in 10-point Courier followed by a message in 24-point Monotype Corsiva (italicized and bolded, natch) is visually shocking, but I really appreciate the variety. E-mails with backgrounds, whether they contain rainbows, puppies, or bikini girls, provide some insight on the character and taste of the sender. Your feedback messages are being generated by a variety of e-mail clients, with IncrediMail figuring prominently among them. I tried out IncrediMail recently and was very impressed--its functionality mirrors that of Microsoft Outlook Express, and it's entirely free. So here's the question of the week: Which e-mail client do you use, and what do you most like or hate about it? Let me know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wayne Cunningham Features Editor, CNET Download.com [...] ===8<===End of original message text=== Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, @02 May 2002, 20:02:00 -0700 (04:02 UK time) Michael L. Wilson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ever since 1.60h, after every power-cycle, all registry entries for > The Bat are gone. All mail is gone, all folders are gone. I > deleted everything and went back to 1.60c, and the same thing > occurs. Sounds like you've got something weird in your startup procedure or some kind of fail-safe restoring the registry behind your back. Whatever. It's nothing to do with The Bat! The Bat! is the victim, not the culprit. > Therefore, I am, deleting the bat, never to return. As you wish. Eudora is a bit of a silly choice, but each to their own I guess. > The bat is a virus. LOL! Now you're being ridiculous! Hey - perhaps SpamKiller did it? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80K6kOeQkq5KdzaARAs0+AJ9NhBga+j/bmkIZovl0WWVg5aTgSACdFibI Ec8/FacHaNA4WjXzx3mG7+E= =Di3M -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The bat is a virus. goodbye
Greetings, Ever since 1.60h, after every power-cycle, all registry entries for The Bat are gone. All mail is gone, all folders are gone. I deleted everything and went back to 1.60c, and the same thing occurs. Therefore, I am, deleting the bat, never to return. The bat is a virus. Michael Wilson Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 mail management question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ... MK> Does the "Keep messages on server for [N ] days" feature actually MK> work? I have attempted to use this feature in other programs where MK> it did not work. Yes, it works, but add an extra day to the amount you actually enter in the field. There's a semantic explanation for the method behind that apparent 'flaw'. It works well once you make the corrections for this. So if you need the messages deleted after 3 days, enter 2 there. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80KKYV8nrYCsHF+IRAl7SAJ42lbF/rdVAeNO6kmT9B/QNaSgWeACfVZRL 9xjFKRGmqohK5nhpuwipACY= =dIsN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
POP3 mail management question
Does the "Keep messages on server for [N ] days" feature actually work? I have attempted to use this feature in other programs where it did not work. I thought about using these settings in TheBat!: Account | Properties | Mail management (*) Leave messages on server [v] Keep messages on server for[3 ] days [v] Delete message from server when it is removed from the Trash Account | Properties | Options [ ] Check mailbox at start-up [v] Periodical checking each [3 ] [minutes ] [v] Empty Trash folder on exit where I could allow TheBat! to maintain my POP3 mail for me. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 9:44:21 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> I just tried it and it works over here. I sent myself some messages ACM> with your configuration. Checked the server. The messages were there ACM> and marked as read. I deleted the messages and they were still there ACM> on the server. I then deleted them from the trash, did a mail check ACM> so that TB! could delete the messages and then checked the server .. ACM> they were gone. ACM> I then tried it across a shutdown, and it also worked. Remember that ACM> TB! does the deletion upon the next mail check. If you shutdown and ACM> restart, it's when you check for mail for the first time that TB! ACM> updates the server, deleting the relevant messages. In TheBat! 1.60h here are my pertinent settings: Account | Properties | Mail management (*) Leave messages on server [v] Delete message from server when it is removed from the Trash Account | Properties | Options [ ] Check mailbox at start-up [v] Periodical checking each [3 ] [minutes ] [v] Empty Trash folder on exit When I deleted an e-mail to the Trash folder, exited and ran TheBat! again, I was not waiting long enough for TheBat! to check e-mail based on my time interval setting. If I had (or have) "Check mailbox at start-up" feature selected, then TheBat! would have deleted the marked e-mails for deletion on the mail server. This feature is working in TheBat! 1.60h. I was just too impatient with the almost correct TheBat! settings. :) Thank you for your help and patience. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 9:54:58 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> It's definitely working just fine at your end. I concur now. :) ACM> You can now go ahead and switch to TB! ;-))) I have a few other issues to mend out still. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ... MK> Steps to reproduce bug and delete messages from mail server: MK> 1. Send an e-mail to yourself "Subject: Test 1". MK> 2. Receive the "Subject: Test 1" message. MK> 3. Delete the "Subject: Test 1" message to the Trash folder. MK> 4. Exit TheBat! 1.60h. MK> 5. Run TheBat! 1.60h. The message from the Trash folder is done. click MK> Account | Dispatch Mail On Server | All Messages and the "Test 1" message MK> is still there. It will still be there since you didn't give TB! a chance to update the server. It does this with each POP check. You need to do a mail check *before* running the dispatcher to check the server to see if the message was deleted. It works just fine here. MK> 6. Send another test e-mail to your self "Subject: Test 2". MK> 7. Receive the "Subject: Test 2" message. Delete it to the Trash folder. MK> 8. Exit TheBat! 1.60h. MK> 9. Run TheBat! 1.60h. Click Account | Dispatch Mail On Server | MK> All Messages and you will notice the "Test 1" message is no longer MK> present Exactly, since it was deleted when you downloaded the 'test 2' message. MK> on the mail server and the "Test 2" message is still on the mail MK> server and marked for deletion. Yes. It will be deleted when you perform the next regular POP check. MK> If you exit and run TheBat! 1.60h again and again, the "Test 2" MK> message remains marked for deletion on the mail server. This is because you haven't performed a POP check while doing all that and it's the only time the messages get deleted. MK> However, if you send a "Test 3" message, receive and delete the MK> message, then the "Test 2" message will get deleted from the mail MK> server There you go... You did a POP check to download 'Test 3', do 'Test 2' is deleted in the process. It's definitely working just fine at your end. You can now go ahead and switch to TB! ;-))) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80JxyV8nrYCsHF+IRAnbNAKCwwWPMsVZD8OVmDkUmPyfMki87HQCgtxpo Mx+/Ti8Qeho2pXYm9ya71ZA= =/rNc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ... ACM>> To narrow the problem down, have you tried deleting messages ACM>> from the trash manually MK> Yes, with no succes. I just tried it and it works over here. I sent myself some messages with your configuration. Checked the server. The messages were there and marked as read. I deleted the messages and they were still there on the server. I then deleted them from the trash, did a mail check so that TB! could delete the messages and then checked the server .. they were gone. I then tried it across a shutdown, and it also worked. Remember that TB! does the deletion upon the next mail check. If you shutdown and restart, it's when you check for mail for the first time that TB! updates the server, deleting the relevant messages. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80Jn2V8nrYCsHF+IRAlbTAJsG7gQtbIr8A4MPBwrwH79PYlWRXACeLNPN RWG478l39eHLXyXYJYAXyZA= =jGDo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 9:19:19 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ACM> ... MK>> How can I get TheBat! 1.60h to remove these messages on the mail MK>> server based on the above settings? ACM> To narrow the problem down, have you tried deleting messages from the ACM> trash manually or with a purge operation and seeing how TB! deals ACM> with it the next time a mail check is performed? If it works under ACM> those circumstances, it would seem that the feature doesn't work ACM> across shutdown and restarts of TB!. Update.. Steps to reproduce bug and delete messages from mail server: 1. Send an e-mail to yourself "Subject: Test 1". 2. Receive the "Subject: Test 1" message. 3. Delete the "Subject: Test 1" message to the Trash folder. 4. Exit TheBat! 1.60h. 5. Run TheBat! 1.60h. The message from the Trash folder is done. click Account | Dispatch Mail On Server | All Messages and the "Test 1" message is still there. 6. Send another test e-mail to your self "Subject: Test 2". 7. Receive the "Subject: Test 2" message. Delete it to the Trash folder. 8. Exit TheBat! 1.60h. 9. Run TheBat! 1.60h. Click Account | Dispatch Mail On Server | All Messages and you will notice the "Test 1" message is no longer present on the mail server and the "Test 2" message is still on the mail server and marked for deletion. If you exit and run TheBat! 1.60h again and again, the "Test 2" message remains marked for deletion on the mail server. However, if you send a "Test 3" message, receive and delete the message, then the "Test 2" message will get deleted from the mail server when it has already been deleted from the Trash folder much earlier. This is definitely a bug in TheBat! 1.60h. If this feature actually worked correctly, this would be great. If you want to delete the message(s) marked for deletion on the mail server on the last exit, the next time you run TheBat! you will need to manually delete them from the mail server through the Dispatch Mail On Server | All Messages feature. I wonder when RIT Labs will fix this bug. I am thinking about switching over to TheBat! and this is one main feature I would like to use. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 9:19:19 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ACM> ... MK>> How can I get TheBat! 1.60h to remove these messages on the mail MK>> server based on the above settings? ACM> To narrow the problem down, have you tried deleting messages from the ACM> trash manually Yes, with no succes. ACM> or with a purge operation and seeing how TB! deals with ACM> it the next time a mail check is performed? Is there a way to set up TheBat! to purge on exit? Otherwise I will need to click Folder | Purge all folders or Purge+Compress, correct? ACM> If it works under those circumstances, it would seem that the feature ACM> doesn't work across shutdown and restarts of TB!. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @02 May 2002, 20:36:46 -0400 (01:36 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > is this better ??? You're no longer PGP signed, but you're still not S/MIME signed. > the answer is that I had to go back to Thawte and get a NEW cert ( > for my new winXp IE 6.0 setup. I guess the old certs stay with the > old IE. I had 5 or 6, one for each email. I'll get 2 more certs for > my normal email addresses that I use, though THIS will be the one I > use on a regular basis. Thanks for sticking with me on this thread > Marck :) We're still working on it. Here's what you should do. Switch sending to "deferred" and turn off "Combined delivery" (Account Properties | Transport). When you put a completed, signed message in the outbox, switch your focus to the outbox. If it has worked, you'll see the S/MIME signature right there on the message. If the message looks plain and flat - no attachment with a tick, no tick on the envelope icon in the message list, it's still not working. Tweak settings and persevere with the permutations until you see the S/MIME signature icons. At that point, you'll know you've fixed it. Does this help? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80JKBOeQkq5KdzaARAp+UAKDo6mTLEhVXz8EAoane3I71s/nafgCg2T2H t4YIXVGM1Isdy7kWcmVL+7Q= =FGew -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knipfer [MK] wrote: ... MK> How can I get TheBat! 1.60h to remove these messages on the mail MK> server based on the above settings? To narrow the problem down, have you tried deleting messages from the trash manually or with a purge operation and seeing how TB! deals with it the next time a mail check is performed? If it works under those circumstances, it would seem that the feature doesn't work across shutdown and restarts of TB!. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80JQXV8nrYCsHF+IRAq9LAJ0YGL5R7LQCHjXqaOCvJ776/Odd9QCg/Acv sEkV44wsWpZio7XC3e1xmxg= =Bn+U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inbox - Known -- docmentation?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @02 May 2002, 20:22:16 -0400 (01:22 UK time) Mark Knipfer wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there any documentation available on the Inbox - Known folder; how it > works, etc.? TheBat! 1.60h Help file lacks documentation on this mail > folder. Inbox - Known is merely a "suggested serving" folder to use as a target for the new filter in the sorting office. If you change the target folder of that filter or disable it, you can safely remove the folder. The filter is a quick and easy "elimination" filter to quickly move mail from "known" people (according to your address book) out of the Inbox, leaving potential spam behind. BUT - if you remove the filter, TB will auto-create the filter next time you start it and, at that point, recreate the Inbox - known folder. (at least, that's what it did when we were testing it on TBBETA). > If there is a web page providing such documentation, please cite the URL. Not yet... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80JE6OeQkq5KdzaARAi+bAKCXJpm8aNMdNWK+xM/Ju+Ldz4NoyACgpxOi IF+DEej+V0LJetnelWMGjyk= =Qlxn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deleted and removed Trash folder messages remain on mail server - bug?
In TheBat! 1.60h I have the following settings: Account | Properties | Mail management (*) Leave mesages on server [v] Delete message from server when it is removed from the Trash Account | Properties | Options [v] Empty Trash folder on exit When I delete an e-mail, the message goes to the Trash folder. When I exit TheBat! 1.60h, all messages in the Trash folder get deleted. When I run TheBat! 1.60h again, no messages appear in the Trash folder. However, when I click Account | Dispatch Mail On Server | All Messages, I see the message(s) on the mail server showing the Delete checkbox checked, but the message(s) do not delete from the mail server. The message appear marked for deletion and always remain there. How can I get TheBat! 1.60h to remove these messages on the mail server based on the above settings? According to TheBat! 1.60h Help file: Mail management Settings Delete message from server when it is removed from Trash - use this option if you want your messages to be kept on the server until you delete them and they are removed from the trash folder. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
Wednesday, 5/1/02, 5:11 PM Hi Julius, On Wed, 1 May 2002, at 00:36:13 [GMT -0400] (which was 9:36 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!' J> But all I see is about 200 e-mail exchanges per day!! about PROBLEMS with TB and J> hopes for better versions etc. Mine is double that as I have a separate account subscribed to all four lists, as an archive where the messages are kept for 60 days. J> How can we/you spend all our time nit-picking the program of our choice every J> time we sign-on to the net?? The percentage of "nit-picking" is really very low and usually from only a few people who think The Bat! should perform some function like their previous e-mailer did. Which is not in itself a bad thing. This is the most "user friendly" mail list I have ever been involved with. Where else can you ask a question and get 3, 4 or five viable answers within five minutes? J> Easier for me to go back to OE and not have to read 200 questions/ day about TB. AND WE J> PAID FOR TB!! While OE and NS are free. That is your choice if you are willing to trade 200 questions (and answers), for crashes, lockups and viruses included with those programs. I paid for TB at about version 1.29 or so and have never looked back. J> Can we end this and get a decent product out of the bat! ? Best E-mail program I have ever used. J> regardless of comments from "moderators" with credentials. The Moderators on these list come with very good credentials. They are helpful, knowledgeable and even-handed. I have not seen anyone get "Trouted" in several months ;) Most of the time they are experiencing the same behaviors we are. At least when you get a message from Allie or Mark, they are using The Bat!, not so on some lists I have been on, (Eudora for one). Your communication is greatly appreciated, Paul -- Do mimes listen to blank tapes? Powered by v1.60h under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:03 PM, you wrote: MDP>>> Aha - the "belt and braces" ploy. Use one or the other, not both! >> ok, so in the privacy menu of the reply, I UNcheck openPGP and leave >> SMIME checked. MDP> Yes .. but you're still coming up PGP signed here. is this better ??? the answer is that I had to go back to Thawte and get a NEW cert ( for my new winXp IE 6.0 setup. I guess the old certs stay with the old IE. I had 5 or 6, one for each email. I'll get 2 more certs for my normal email addresses that I use, though THIS will be the one I use on a regular basis. Thanks for sticking with me on this thread Marck :) / Paul Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat! - bug report
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:19:53 PM, David Marlow wrote: > When in workstation with tcp/ip mode and sharing the names and > matters common folders AbacusBat! a.k.a (The Bat!), will lose folder > information. I'm a little lost on your description of the setup and on what you are losing. Do you mean you are sharing the mail folders between work stations? What folder information are you losing? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inbox - Known -- docmentation?
Is there any documentation available on the Inbox - Known folder; how it works, etc.? TheBat! 1.60h Help file lacks documentation on this mail folder. If there is a web page providing such documentation, please cite the URL. Thank you. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Bat! - bug report
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.60 Serial Number under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 and would like to report a bug The bug description: When in workstation with tcp/ip mode and sharing the names and matters common folders AbacusBat! a.k.a (The Bat!), will lose folder information. I believe this is due to each installation of AbacusBat! overwriting the ACCOUNT.FLX file in the mail directory with its own version. So when one installation of AbacusBat! creates a new subfolder, unless it is the last installation to exit that day, that new folder will not be saved into the list. Steps to reproduce the bug: Regards, David Marlow Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:35 PM, you wrote: ok, well, I go to that section and it shows no certificates! I go to import, select one of my certs that I think I exported, it says successful, yet it also shows no certificates for me! well. Of course all my old certificates were for my old computer, running windows2000 and IE6. Now I have a brand-new setup with windows XP. Maybe I need to start over and get new certificates? I'm getting a new thawte cert right now, I'll get it setup and try to import it into IE.. MDP> It doesn't. Your message would come through with a tick on the MDP> envelope in the message list and an attachment showing a valid (or an MDP> invalid) signature in the attachment panel. MDP> You do need a certificate in your IE certificates repository to MDP> perform signing. The certificate has to have been issued for your MDP> email address and has to have been enabled for all purposes, MDP> (especially email signing) on the "advanced" properties button in the MDP> "Internet Options | Content | Certificates | Personal" tab. / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPNCCUT3ZlJQqDEkFEQIu+ACgid2mgpdtAbSdjpH4qIqPi8MEAuAAoO2A uLR7inP/LVwpbdBY3uogEHl7 =s82N -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W32.Nimda.enc virus causing problem in TheBat! 1.53d
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:50:29 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP> Hash: SHA1 MDP> @02 May 2002, 19:43:48 -0400 (00:43 UK time) Mark Knipfer wrote in MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Why is the TheBat! 1.53d get affected by the Nimda.enc virus? MDP> It's not! It has to store incoming mail somewhere. NAV is being way MDP> over-zealous. MDP> There are two things he could do here: MDP> 1) Turn off NAV, let the message arrive and delete it from TB with no MDP> problem. MDP> 2) Use the mail dispatcher to delete the infected message from the MDP> server. Thank you. MDP> Just because a virus is received in the inbox, that doesn't mean MDP> you're infected - not with TB you're not! . Correct. -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W32.Nimda.enc virus causing problem in TheBat! 1.53d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @02 May 2002, 19:43:48 -0400 (00:43 UK time) Mark Knipfer wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why is the TheBat! 1.53d get affected by the Nimda.enc virus? It's not! It has to store incoming mail somewhere. NAV is being way over-zealous. There are two things he could do here: 1) Turn off NAV, let the message arrive and delete it from TB with no problem. 2) Use the mail dispatcher to delete the infected message from the server. Just because a virus is received in the inbox, that doesn't mean you're infected - not with TB you're not! . - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80H9HOeQkq5KdzaARAi2sAJ9/bxgtgjDuMb3z9ONYL2AOzU1U4QCg4crO tq6xQZAnI0Xv0ihVM9qTWtU= =+/4q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Marck, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 3:35:55 PM, you digitally penned the following; MDP> It doesn't. Your message would come through with a tick on the MDP> envelope in the message list and an attachment showing a valid (or an MDP> invalid) signature in the attachment panel. MDP> You do need a certificate in your IE certificates repository to MDP> perform signing. The certificate has to have been issued for your MDP> email address and has to have been enabled for all purposes, MDP> (especially email signing) on the "advanced" properties button in the MDP> "Internet Options | Content | Certificates | Personal" tab. MDP> Anyone else here think of anything I'm missing in this conversation or MDP> am I the only one left reading this thread now? No, your not the only one... I'm still here but I turned SMIME off because so many had trouble reading the e-mail's I signed with it. One good thing about PGP, signing doesn't affect anyones ability to read the e-mail ( as far as I know) no matter what version of TB! they are using. (other than adding clutter to the page). - -- Regards, Lynnamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat!1.60h Windows XP PGP ( Public ) Key available at www.apostolic-friends.net/pgpkey.htm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBPNB+NX7nBw6G0JgJAQG9+gf/aqeLtewOf3qRcqIzr3egfuSnRzPy53z0 JicR6/Bdyu+DmFxBWeetDll0yf4mwKlmRS/6/d3GBmW9y3YXZyMcPmbir9xzCoXa 3gVHT48Vcy/qRARXZ7TslJBGed4+VSdBcuXcxauP//pWUPnwqGTDTdgo8nu895Xp UzyFwxrJimBEnoq5QvRtKoCt7IBc5GmZDDHA/P2suO7psmqwpJIgZM1TnYQzvogw xGEj1JYrdsrh4uMytR52rtepk6SHcqiVsUDNL2YdG+GeAOwsr9PYFc5E5vDD8h1q ot8v6cPgAmleUVsuta6Wbia0EDcSMznXq+KPiyhhHULTnmAOF7JUkg== =+R99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W32.Nimda.enc virus causing problem in TheBat! 1.53d
A colleague of mine uses TheBat! 1.53d. He started to receive the Nimda.enc virus today. Each time a message arrives with the Nimda.enc virus, TheBat! 1.53d creates a bat###.TMP file in the Windows TEMP directory in Windows 2000, Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition 7.5x detects the virus, and he has to exit TheBat! to get it to work again. The Nimda.enc virus get launched through an IFRAME SRC tag in an HTML message. Why is the TheBat! 1.53d get affected by the Nimda.enc virus? -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @02 May 2002, 19:08:01 -0400 (00:08 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ok, so in the privacy menu of the reply, I UNcheck openPGP and >>> leave SMIME checked. MDP>> Yes .. but you're still coming up PGP signed here. > I still did the pgptray signing that time. How do I know if the SMIME > works? It doesn't. Your message would come through with a tick on the envelope in the message list and an attachment showing a valid (or an invalid) signature in the attachment panel. You do need a certificate in your IE certificates repository to perform signing. The certificate has to have been issued for your email address and has to have been enabled for all purposes, (especially email signing) on the "advanced" properties button in the "Internet Options | Content | Certificates | Personal" tab. Anyone else here think of anything I'm missing in this conversation or am I the only one left reading this thread now? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80HvdOeQkq5KdzaARAsFsAJ9Qy+XauUYu8kKG0A5dLBF7/fjKhACgntuZ Df/aVLFKQ//yd6E0VnN53Hw= =x1IX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compress all folders on exit question
Should the 'Compress all folders on exit' option always be selected? Does this have any negative impact on TheBat!'s database files? -- Using The Bat! v1.60h OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:03 PM, you wrote: >> ok, so in the privacy menu of the reply, I UNcheck openPGP and leave >> SMIME checked. MDP> Yes .. but you're still coming up PGP signed here. I still did the pgptray signing that time. How do I know if the SMIME works? / Paul Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @01 May 2002, 18:52:59 -0400 (23:52 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> on the reply menu while I am writing this I have openPGP checked >>> and SMIME checked. MDP>> Aha - the "belt and braces" ploy. Use one or the other, not both! > ok, so in the privacy menu of the reply, I UNcheck openPGP and leave > SMIME checked. Yes .. but you're still coming up PGP signed here. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80HQtOeQkq5KdzaARAo5uAKCHLz9F8JI3gHToDgiing+MrurOogCgyFJV ZgibL5n20DICllzSvClRwvM= =i//e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @01 May 2002, 18:34:52 -0400 (23:34 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> You have a cross-over between PGP and S/MIME. The CryptoAPI is MDP>> used for S/MIME. PGP 6.5.8 is used for PGP. They are different MDP>> and separate - - an "either/or" thing. > cross-over, null modem... whatever ;) I guess it all works ! except > the privacy- sign message still doesn't work. Well, your messages are PGP signed to perfection! So that side of your privacy settings is working. > So that would be the OE certificates for this email account ? Erm ... yes. That would be about the size of it. But it still sounds like you're using both at once. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80HFJOeQkq5KdzaARArd9AKDem4548yB2S7n/iNnfZM28XxTc7wCdGbpc OkVWdhZXzAc50i5omi67rOg= =GX61 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:07 AM, you wrote: >> on the reply menu while I am writing this I have openPGP checked and >> SMIME checked. MDP> Aha - the "belt and braces" ploy. Use one or the other, not both! ok, so in the privacy menu of the reply, I UNcheck openPGP and leave SMIME checked. / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNBxrz3ZlJQqDEkFEQJRywCfdCU4LLRuHtkp8R9sPMdqUDvdTisAn3T4 P84HoF6ShpHR/rxfefX8Gv+q =yKdF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 5:54 AM, you wrote: M >> wow, I think I have things all screwed up now, I'm not sure which way >> is up anymore! MDP> Looks like a case of non-terminal confusion and crossed wires to me . >> I did an uninstall of PGP 6.5.8 and installed pgp6.5.8ckt build 07. MDP> Good choice :-). thanks, I think eventually everything will work as advertised, I'm just "non-terminally confused" but I'll get over it ;) thanks! >> I also have the box checked for pgp version pgp 6.0 plugin. MDP> Correct. good, I wasn't sure! >> And I have the MS Crypto API selected. MDP> This option is completely unrelated to PGP. It is purely for S/MIME. MDP> So far you've been talking about PGP. arg ! so I use PGPtray to sign, and everything is OK ! >> NOW, when I go to right-click an accounts properties, the view >> certificates box isn't there. MDP> Correct. When you use the MS CryptoAPI, certificates are managed in MDP> the system certificate pool. See "Control Panel (or IE) Internet MDP> Options | Content | Certificates". That's the certificates that are MDP> now used. If your certificate is not installed / imported there, it MDP> will give you signing problems when you use S/MIME. I have a BUNCH of Thawte certificates imported into OE, one for each email account, I think that part is working OK ! thanks for the clarification on that, I don't think that was mentioned anywhere? >> I am running win XP and TB 160h and PGP6.5.8ckt 07. where are my >> certificates, or should I be worried ? when I use the Privacy - >> sign when completed menu it says there is no certificate for my >> email, but the pgptray sign worked. MDP> You have a cross-over between PGP and S/MIME. The CryptoAPI is used MDP> for S/MIME. PGP 6.5.8 is used for PGP. They are different and separate MDP> - - an "either/or" thing. cross-over, null modem... whatever ;) I guess it all works ! except the privacy- sign message still doesn't work. So that would be the OE certificates for this email account ? / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ iQA/AwUBPNBtfj3ZlJQqDEkFEQJ4/gCcDUiYzVm/l/00FWq6sB1sGfSWKXoAn1hb 7Z9YoyZGn9Ny6GClNnhqo88u =VdwC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: headers in html mails
Hello Ricardo, On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 11:43:41 PM you wrote (at least in part): RMR> ok, .\\arck says there are Ritlabs programmers reading this, so this RMR> question is addressed to them: ¿why? :) Somebody decided it, somebody forgot it ... something like this, I think :-) RMR> Please help me with this, I can't sleep!!! :) Go get some sleep :-) It's definitely better than waiting for _that_ answer ... especially as it doesn't matter :-) Write it down in wish list (https://bt.ritlabs.com/; choose 'The Bat! Wish' at top right) and see if v2 will handle this issue ... I don't think 1.60 will, as this is at one of these thing with priority ... what's the lowest value? *G* We lived with it months or years, and so I think the time to v2 is nothing compared to the time already gone with this 'function' :-) Ciao Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) But behold: we will watch them fall. Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Melissa Reese [MR] wrote: ... MR> Okay Allie - please explain to me how to set up my TB! 1.60c MR> "correctly" to show Lynna's signatures as "valid". Once some of us are getting valid signatures on Lynna's messages, I think everyone would agree that the signatures are indeed valid. An invalid report indicates something being wrong. It could be that there's something wrong with the S/MIME setup or that there's something wrong with the message itself, in that it has been altered somehow. The only requirements that I see for validating her signatures is that you have a working certificate database in the address book (those two red address book groups containing the root and intermediate root ca's.) You seem to need to have a valid key for yourself. Do your S/MIME signed messages come up as valid? I didn't do anything fancy for the internal implementation to work except importing new valid keys for myself that I obtained from Thawte. To get the MS CryptAPI implementation to correctly work, I imported my S/MIME certificates into the system repository via the Internet Options. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80GYlV8nrYCsHF+IRAp5pAJ9P7NQ95vs6dHwaUS1ijMwpnZ3N1QCeJLj2 7Zus8K9SD5yfR23gyXlueX8= =p2L4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: clean install / s/mime
On 1-5-2002 at 23:16, Haico wrote: > Now all the s/mime-signed messages are readable with the internal > encryption implementation.. But the (valid/invalid) signs right of the > message body are gone. This is NOT true!! Now I'm going to do what I should have done hours ago: SLEEP. Excuses Haico Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: headers in html mails
El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 16.39, Peter Palmreuther decía: PP> It doesn't matter for me, so please ... this is no request :-) But to PP> me there seem not to be any effort needed by the programmers to 'not PP> deactivate' the pane, as already done in preview pane :-) ok, .\\arck says there are Ritlabs programmers reading this, so this question is addressed to them: ¿why? :) I'm a programmer, I work with delphi sometimes, and I can't think of any reasonable explanation, except for a simple bug or omission. Please help me with this, I can't sleep!!! :) -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: What the hell???
Hello all, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, Roel wrote: MDP>> Either that or downgrade to 'c'. R> I'd love to downgrade, but I've lost my copy... R> somebody can give me a link to a 1.60c exe? here is one: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/exe/tb160c.rar or ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/exe/tb160d.rar -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz Using the best The Bat! 1.60d under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build A AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 256 MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
sorry: *ignore* my previous mail about s/mime!!
Hi, I don't know if my previous mail comes through.. I haven't seen it yet.. but maybe the connection isn't good right now.. Or I used a wrong address. What I said in that mail is not true. :-( Excuse me/ignore Haico Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
clean install / s/mime
Hi everyone, I just removed the bat and it's registry entries and reinstalled TB! 1.60h. Now all the s/mime-signed messages are readable with the internal encryption implementation.. But the (valid/invalid) signs right of the message body are gone. Not that it matters.. But when I installed 1.60h over 1.60g those s/mime-signed messages weren't visible at all. Greetings, Haico Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Disabato [MD] wrote: ... MD> This may be semantics, but I'm getting concerned that we are MD> heading to a road where the CryptoAPI becomes the "correct" way. I'm not saying it's the correct way. I don't think anyone has said this. We've already stated that it's a work-around until Ritlabs fixes things so the user whichever of the two methods s/he likes. The discussions have been about how to use S/MIME using the MS CryptAPI since the internal implementation seems to be broken in the current TB! release. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80FxWV8nrYCsHF+IRAmE9AKCr6uryOxRwraLreBsQcja3cCQeEgCgifTJ 1NYyImn+fAAtYl5eu8pNlz0= =RHKI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interesting problem with separated MIME email
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Smith [MS] wrote: ... MS> I'm a moderator on a couple of other lists (LYRIS based) and the MS> moderation mail comes in with separated MIME, which makes it MS> display the contents as 2 attachments. Is there a way of making MS> TheBat display these messages in 'raw' form, rather than MS> attachments? I think you're referring to bursting the digest? No, there's no automatic way of doing this. You have to manually copy the attached messages to the desired location. MS> If not, is there a way of making regex replacements search the MS> entire raw message? Currently, it only searches the MS> pseudo-attachment that you have opened. I'm looking for a way of MS> making accept/reject a little more automated, by using reply MS> template for accept, forward template for reject. Would you explain this part further. I don't quite understand what you're getting at. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80FqAV8nrYCsHF+IRAnuwAJ9XxDNw43n4DvgI6NzsgCkR6XoMrQCfYJx1 P+NndDzH+LxuBgYb17YEdx8= =3HCR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
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On Wed, 1 May 2002, at 11:55:30 -0700 Melissa wrote:
MR> I'm using 1.60c. All of Lynna's S/MIME signed messages show here as
MR> "invalid" with *both* TB!'s internal S/MIME implementation and with MS
MR> CryptoAPI (and yes - her key is properly imported here as well).
MR> If I "open" her certificate to have a look, it says: "No signed
MR> attributes".
I even cannot open recent Lynna's messages: only what I see is the
line in the header window; body window retains previous body contents.
Regarding other's S/MIME signed messages, they are all good here.
1.53d.
(Btw, I almost deleted entire thread since I wasn't interested about
Anti-Virus topic.)
Mandara
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(__) If you need this key:
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Re: headers in html mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @01 May 2002, 21:39:07 +0200 (20:39 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If I understood your argumentation and Ricardos question correctly > you're talking about two pair of shoes ... You seem to have written > about 'RFC-822 message headers' shown 'inline' the message window > (++K), while he requested about the message headers you > can selective show directly above the message itself > (++H). Good point. Serves me right for not reading the thread properly!!! Pretend I said nothing! > It doesn't matter for me, so please ... this is no request :-) But > to me there seem not to be any effort needed by the programmers to > 'not deactivate' the pane, as already done in preview pane :-) Agreed. On the wish-list? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80EajOeQkq5KdzaARAoGlAKDZLJ817dl3PJMmPwOxMrfATvRVaACgn/+9 2Bk4Zi+4WsiKIMYpjUItQJA= =Uzq6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
Hello Marck, On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 9:21:17 PM you wrote (at least in part): >> If I "open" her certificate to have a look, it says: "No signed >> attributes". MDP> That sounds like a non-imported certificate. Nope :-) 1.) You don't have to have someones certificate imported for verifying mails from him/her if he/she is signing with S/MIME. All you need are Root certificates for the verification chain of certificate-signings being complete. 2.) This special message I've only seen if a message is signed using Microsoft Crypto API and I try to verify it w/ internal implementation. As Max sometimes stated there's a fundamental difference between both implementations that causes this 'Error' and makes it in the current state 'unsolvable'. You have to verify 'Crypto API signed' messages using 'Crypto API implementation' too. vice versa is OK (as I've just tested with an old, singed w/ internal method, message in TBBETA). Sorry for contradicting, but with all this S/MIME questions I've seen over the last months only on German and English TB!-lists plus the few on German newsgroup, clarifying every single point of misunderstanding (or possible misunderstanding at readers side) seems to be necessary to avoid further confusions :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life. -- Dave Butler -- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: headers in html mails
Hello Marck, On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 8:58:50 PM you wrote (at least in part): >> ok, but if it shows them in the text tab, why not in the html tab? MDP> 1). Because the headers immediately precede the text and the text will MDP> flow on from them. It's a simple issue of changing the starting point MDP> of what is displayed. The HTML version is an attachment. The headers MDP> are nowhere near it and there would be much more programming effort MDP> involved in bleeding in the headers there. MDP> 2). The headers have no HTML tags - particularly no ... MDP> encapsulation. If I understood your argumentation and Ricardos question correctly you're talking about two pair of shoes ... You seem to have written about 'RFC-822 message headers' shown 'inline' the message window (++K), while he requested about the message headers you can selective show directly above the message itself (++H). And the mystery is: if you're working in 'Preview mode' only and receive a HTML-message (or 'an HTML-message' because of '_e_itch-tee-em-el'?) you can switch over to view HTML-part and the header _pane_ is still visible. If you have a look at the very same message in folder view and you turn over to view HTML-part the _pane_ disappears. It doesn't matter for me, so please ... this is no request :-) But to me there seem not to be any effort needed by the programmers to 'not deactivate' the pane, as already done in preview pane :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Grass is nature's way of saying "High!" Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Melissa, @01 May 2002, 11:55:30 -0700 (19:55 UK time) Melissa Reese wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please explain this then... > I'm using 1.60c. All of Lynna's S/MIME signed messages show here as > "invalid" with *both* TB!'s internal S/MIME implementation and with > MS CryptoAPI (and yes - her key is properly imported here as well). Switch to MS Crypto and *then* import the certificate. That may make a difference. Remember to move off the message and back on again to re-verify. > If I "open" her certificate to have a look, it says: "No signed > attributes". That sounds like a non-imported certificate. I think the magic formula is: Use CryptoAPI; Import certificates with CryptoAPI; You also have to make sure that the CA is in your certificate store. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80EAvOeQkq5KdzaARAvWAAKDutRl02wvjA/5h12YM5pfgKPq6eQCg1hYY A2WGWAhqh9/qGXpvgwXbngA= =dHxb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: export/import for filters
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 19:29:10 (-0500 GMT) Oleg Titov wrote: G>> The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. > That's there I feel a file container could help :) Thats no problem with copy and paste: BeginFilter Name: The Bat Mailing Active: 1 Source: \\Mailinglisten\Inbox Target: \\Mailinglisten\TheBat\Englisch\TBUDL CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: faoContinueProcessing AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Select from BeginFilter to EndFilter and copy the text to the clipboard. Then open the Sorting Office, select Incoming mail and paste the clipboard content in it. So you have a new filter in your sorting office. This is my filter for this list. ;) -- Best regards Heinz Hombergs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Winamp is off Written with The Bat! Version 1.60h under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xB6E8E34E Fingerprint: 36DE F798 52E2 30A7 F12C 0493 4226 7422 B6E8 E34E Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 01, 2002, at 4:47:21 AM PST, Allie C Martin wrote: > Once setup correctly Lynda's signatures are all valid. Okay Allie - please explain to me how to set up my TB! 1.60c "correctly" to show Lynna's signatures as "valid". I get "invalid" on her signatures whether I'm using TB!'s internal S/MIME or MS CryptoAPI. Here's another peculiar thing... If I'm in TB! internal S/MIME, and try [again] to "import" her certificate, it tells me that I already have it imported (obviously, as I imported it long ago). However - if I switch over to MS CryptoAPI, and try to import her certificate, I get an error (one of two)... 1) If I just right-click and choose "import key or certificate", I get a little TB! "error box" saying simply "Abstract Error". 2) If I right-click and choose "open", the first box that opens up says "no signed attributes". If I look further into the details, it does tell me that a) the certificate *is* imported, and b) the *certificate* is "valid" (of course, this says nothing about the signed messages). Any more ideas? Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9&Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAjzQP6YACgkQjVbXUvsE8ulVUgCfQ6fwN1czBTmarbHYNM1sFA6z 5G4An1EACJsVJnCmIiK1utGx+MeGMFwl =qDz6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Coupling TB! to AVP virus scanner
Hello Gerard! On Wednesday 1-05-02 (20:45) you wrote: GK> It is only possible with the Personal Pro version. -- Thanks, Gerard. AVP is a powerful tool, so I'll consider it. Read you, Fré. Visit www.skripton.com Reactions & mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 ...shit happens Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: headers in html mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ricardo, @01 May 2002, 15:21:19 -0300 (19:21 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PP>> It's an obvious one, but the only one coming to my mind: not PP>> implemented?! :-) > ok, but if it shows them in the text tab, why not in the html tab? 1). Because the headers immediately precede the text and the text will flow on from them. It's a simple issue of changing the starting point of what is displayed. The HTML version is an attachment. The headers are nowhere near it and there would be much more programming effort involved in bleeding in the headers there. 2). The headers have no HTML tags - particularly no ... encapsulation. These are just sympathetic excuses, sure, but they seem logical to me. > I guess it would be great to have an RitLabs programmer in this forum > :) They're here but don't often step in - as it should be. They have V2 to write!!! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80DrsOeQkq5KdzaARAu81AJ9dI9L+rI7JBpeYL+21ouJqFgUxnQCfa6U9 oM0CabARLmDPPZQC77584N8= =MP5Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
Hi Marck On Wed, 1 May 2002 19:44:54 +0100GMT (which was 1/05/2002, 20:44 +0200GMT for me), you wrote: MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tb160c.rar thanks :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum Antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * You're too drunk when...Your job is interfering with your drinking... Using The Bat! 1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 01, 2002, at 4:30:41 AM PST, Michael Disabato wrote: > And yours are still invalid here, BTW. Same here (Lynna's signatures show as "invalid", while yours show as "valid"). I'm using TB! 1.60c, and the above is true whether I'm using TB!'s internal S/MIME or MS CryptoAPI. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9&Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAjzQOr4ACgkQjVbXUvsE8unJXQCfQnry1nFJSzoSz6PtABeo1ZJV djgAn33RKK9SauT9Gt7i/+VmoIwdse/c =GTBV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, May 01, 2002, at 1:26:56 AM PST, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > Lynna: Don't change anything. You are doing fine. > Your certificate is valid. It appears as valid here. It will appear > as valid for anyone who imports it. Anyone who says it is invalid > just hasn't imported it yet (or is using version 1.60h with the > internal S/MIME setting). > Please ignore any further reports of "invalidity". They are *wrong*. Hello Marck, Please explain this then... I'm using 1.60c. All of Lynna's S/MIME signed messages show here as "invalid" with *both* TB!'s internal S/MIME implementation and with MS CryptoAPI (and yes - her key is properly imported here as well). If I "open" her certificate to have a look, it says: "No signed attributes". Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=0xFB04F2E9&Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAjzQOgQACgkQjVbXUvsE8un80QCguCovF5LSK+C7S5qT4VHw1Bdu LdoAoNZiUQ0JGWAkq7EDic+mSK5WLA/g =FBpM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
Hello Roel, On Wed, 1 May 2002 20:08:56 +0200GMT (1-5-02, 20:08 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: MDP>> Either that or downgrade to 'c'. R> I'd love to downgrade, but I've lost my copy... R> somebody can give me a link to a 1.60c exe? http://ritlabs.tps.sk/the_bat/the_bat.exe according to the Ritlabs site that's still a place to find 1.60c if you believe http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Roel, @01 May 2002, 20:08:56 +0200 (19:08 UK time) Roel wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> Either that or downgrade to 'c'. > I'd love to downgrade, but I've lost my copy... somebody can give me > a link to a 1.60c exe? http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tb160c.rar - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE80DerOeQkq5KdzaARAtuvAKChvqc4teJA6D0z4oi6fhQtC8Kb2gCfQpuf 0ZcppCpdpxbWmx0Kq1NKN3c= =mHxJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: export/import for filters
Hello Oleg, On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:59:23 -0500GMT (1-5-02, 19:59 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: OT> this sounds to me that the general purpose filter parser is already OT> done, so we need just 2 buttons in Account|Sorting Office/Filters: OT> Export and Import. It's not very high on my wish list. It's useful when exchanging a filter during bug-hunting, but if you really want to back-up your filters all you need to do is to copy the account.srx file in the directory where your account is stored. No use to bother Ritlabs. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Coupling TB! to AVP virus scanner
Hello Fré, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:20:48 PM, you wrote: > I noticed that I can couple TB! to Kaspersky's AVP (that so > bravely protects me each day against the virus roulette of > Internet). (Where) can I download the plug-in that is asked > for? It is only possible with the Personal Pro version. If you have that version then the plug-in is automatically available. -- Best regards, Gerard Kienhorst Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Address Editing
Hello Nick, On Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 10:34:24 PM you wrote (at least in part): ND> I know you can right click on an address in the message header and add ND> it to the address book, but if it's already in there is there some way ND> to open it up for editing quickly via some mouse click or key strokes ND> from the header also? Not I'm aware of ... Sorry. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Mr Spock wears wulcanized rubbers Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: headers in html mails
El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 15.16, Peter Palmreuther decía: PP> Hello Ricardo, PP> On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 8:00:34 PM you wrote (at least in part): RMR>> anyone knows a reason? PP> It's an obvious one, but the only one coming to my mind: not PP> implemented?! :-) ok, but if it shows them in the text tab, why not in the html tab? I guess it would be great to have an RitLabs programmer in this forum :) -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: export/import for filters
Hello Heinz, my point was applied for cases than you want to share your filters not only on one computer but with the hole world. I was thinking globaly :) about users sharing their filters, about servers with TheBat! sets of filters for PGP public key mailing, SPAM protection, etc... regards, oleg Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 1:12:55 PM, you wrote: HH> On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 19:19:44 (+0200 GMT) Gerard wrote: >> The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. HH> This way works great. I have several mailaccounts with many filters. HH> Some of this filters are in every account. I declare this filters in HH> one account and copy and paste this filter to the other aacounts. So HH> you don't need any export and import function for filters. -- Best regards, Olegmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Coupling TB! to AVP virus scanner
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, Hello udlers, I noticed that I can couple TB! to Kaspersky's AVP (that so bravely protects me each day against the virus roulette of Internet). (Where) can I download the plug-in that is asked for? Read you, Fré. Visit www.skripton.com Reactions & mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards (Kierkegaard) - Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: headers in html mails
Hello Ricardo, On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 8:00:34 PM you wrote (at least in part): RMR> anyone knows a reason? It's an obvious one, but the only one coming to my mind: not implemented?! :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Megaton Man on patrol! Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: export/import for filters
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 19:19:44 (+0200 GMT) Gerard wrote: > The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. This way works great. I have several mailaccounts with many filters. Some of this filters are in every account. I declare this filters in one account and copy and paste this filter to the other aacounts. So you don't need any export and import function for filters. -- Best regards Heinz Hombergs mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Winamp is off Written with The Bat! Version 1.60h under Windows 98 4.10 Build A PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xB6E8E34E Fingerprint: 36DE F798 52E2 30A7 F12C 0493 4226 7422 B6E8 E34E Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
Hi Marck On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:26:24 +0100GMT (which was 1/05/2002, 13:26 +0200GMT for me), you wrote: MDP> Either that or downgrade to 'c'. I'd love to downgrade, but I've lost my copy... somebody can give me a link to a 1.60c exe? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zum Antworten bitte Lederhosen entfernen * Speelplein Aboe http://www.aboe.zzn.com * What if there were no hypothetical situations? Using The Bat! 1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: headers in html mails
El miércoles 1 de mayo de 2002, a las 14.25, Roelof Otten decía: RO> Hello Ricardo, RO> On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:18:31 -0300GMT (1-5-02, 17:18 +0200GMT, where I RO> live), you wrote: RMR>> Do you know how can I see the headers in the html mails in a RMR>> separate window? RO> If I read you correctly, you can't. anyone knows a reason? -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: export/import for filters
Hello Roelof, this sounds to me that the general purpose filter parser is already done, so we need just 2 buttons in Account|Sorting Office/Filters: Export and Import. Any supporting votes for this feature for next TB! ? (message me privately, if I get more than 5 requests I'll file this feature on TheBat Wish List). Regards, Oleg Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 12:30:09 PM, you wrote: RO> Hello Oleg, RO> On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:29:10 -0500GMT (1-5-02, 19:29 +0200GMT, where I RO> live), you wrote: G>>> You can already copy and send filters. G>>> Go to the filter you want to copy. Press Ctrl+C or right click Copy. G>>> The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. OT>> That's there I feel a file container could help :) RO> Use a text file. To copy filters from the sorting office has to be RO> done one at a time. Paste them into notepad (or whatever) after you're RO> done select all filters in notepad, copy them and paste them all at RO> the same time back into the sorting office. RO> Keep incoming, outgoing, read and replied filters separated though. -- Best regards, Olegmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: export/import for filters
Hello Oleg, On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:29:10 -0500GMT (1-5-02, 19:29 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: G>> You can already copy and send filters. G>> Go to the filter you want to copy. Press Ctrl+C or right click Copy. G>> The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. OT> That's there I feel a file container could help :) Use a text file. To copy filters from the sorting office has to be done one at a time. Paste them into notepad (or whatever) after you're done select all filters in notepad, copy them and paste them all at the same time back into the sorting office. Keep incoming, outgoing, read and replied filters separated though. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: headers in html mails
Hello Ricardo, On Wed, 1 May 2002 12:18:31 -0300GMT (1-5-02, 17:18 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RMR> Do you know how can I see the headers in the html mails in a RMR> separate window? If I read you correctly, you can't. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: export/import for filters
Hello Gerard, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 12:19:44 PM, you wrote: G> Hi Oleg, G> You can already copy and send filters. G> Go to the filter you want to copy. Press Ctrl+C or right click Copy. G> Start a new email and do a Paste in the body. Wow! Never knew about that. Great. G> The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. That's there I feel a file container could help :) -- Best regards, Olegmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: export/import for filters
ON Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:47:43 PM, you wrote: OT> Hello tbudl, OT>I would like to know your opinion on import/export filter feature. OT>I imagine it as a powerful tool to exchange/distribute filters as OT>you will be able to export your filter (filter set) into a file and OT>easily send them by e-mail, publish on web pages. Hi Oleg, You can already copy and send filters. Go to the filter you want to copy. Press Ctrl+C or right click Copy. Start a new email and do a Paste in the body. The only thing I never tried was to copy+paste the other way around. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> Your kid may be an honor student but you're still an IDIOT! Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
export/import for filters
Hello tbudl, I would like to know your opinion on import/export filter feature. I imagine it as a powerful tool to exchange/distribute filters as you will be able to export your filter (filter set) into a file and easily send them by e-mail, publish on web pages. Greetings, Oleg Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.60h
On 1-5-2002 at 0:45, Michael Disabato wrote: H>>> Nothing new in 1.60h. Just some bug-fixes. RMR>> I guess they should list the bugfixes too, don't you? > How about the new bugs? :) Like I said: nothing new. ;) Haico Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 10:45:48 PM, Lynna Lunsford wrote: > I purposefully searched for a different email client to get > away from OE or MS Outlook 2000 of which I had both > installed on my system (still do) but I was extremely > dis-satisifed with the security problems, lock-ups, and > misc. other problems of these MS email clients. So I > thought.. I will try Netscape Mail as a alternative right? > Wrong... Bad choice... So I searched the internet... and > some how I came across a link to Ritlabs/ The Bat! > I read the info. Was impressed primarily by the security ( > immunity) of TB! to certain types of virus and that it does > not use the windows address book. Added to that was the > macros and templates and so many other features so I > downloaded the trial. I admit there is a learning curve to > using TB! to its fullest potential and I am still learning. > BUT I am here on this list because I want to be, not because > I have to be. I enjoy the list, I am learning I believe, at > a much faster pace because of it. AND I do believe that we I'm in total agreement. I too was looking for an alternative to the bloated, virus-prone Outlook and happened upon TB!. Man o man I couldn't be more happy. I've only been using it for a few months and on a daily basis I learn about more and more cool features from the list. How cool are customized templates! Are you kidding me?? :) -- Regards, Mattmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:17:16 AM, Marck scribbled: MDP> LOL! Just be thankful they merely implemented rather than invented the MDP> standard! (or did they ...?) Their implementations are the problem. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Anti-Virus
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:33:21 AM, Allie scribbled: ACM> I can understand that though there is an advantage to the concept of ACM> keeping the keys at a central location. It avoids having to import ACM> them into TB!. That is until I abandon IE in favor of Opera and remove it from my system. ACM> when you apply and download a set of keys). Once I imported the keys ACM> back into the system key repository, I could now verify messages. This ACM> makes sense since switching to MS CryptAPI means that you're switching ACM> S/MIME control over to the system and it's your keys installed in ACM> Windows and not TB! that will be used. This is most interesting. I don't have my certs installed under the Windows registry. They are only imported into TB!. This puts them into a single location I can back up and not worry about when I restore the system. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Anti-Virus
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:47:21 AM, Allie scribbled: ACM> Once setup correctly Lynda's signatures are all valid. This may be semantics, but I'm getting concerned that we are heading to a road where the CryptoAPI becomes the "correct" way. IMNSHO, this is merely a work-around until Ritlabs gets the problem fixed. I settled on TB! because it has an independently produced encryption system. I would be most annoyed if there was a switch to using Microsoft's. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
headers in html mails
when I open and html mail in a separate window (instead of the preview pane) I get a tabbed window, with a tab labeled "1" and a tab labeled "message.htm". In the text tab "1" I see the headers in the gray area above the text (From, To, Subject, etc) but in the "message.htm" tab I can't see them. The text of the mail fills all the window. If I read the mail in the preview mail, I can see the headers in both tabs. Do you know how can I see the headers in the html mails in a separate window? -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
On 01 May 2002, 09:22, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > This is your fault not Lynna's. Switch to CryptoAPI (if you're not > using it) and Import the certificate. You don't have the certificate > in your list of valid certificates to verify with. Hang on - you may > not be able to do that - you're still using a 1.54 beta! ~~~ I've just tried this and got an "abstract error" message. Searching Help tells me that I can only import certificates if I'm using the internal implementation. If I switch to the internal implementation, I can download the certificate, but the signature still appears as invalid. AFAICT, S/MIME is completely broken in my installation of TB! because all signatures appear as invalid no matter which implementation I use. This includes signatures that appeared as valid in TB! 1.53d -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intermittent send problem
On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 2:47:37 PM, Anthony wrote: > You can set up BAT! to do POP authentication automatically before > retrieving email. Thank you very much for that tip! I have made the change and can now send email happily no matter what I have been doing before. Another big tick for "The Bat!". Regards Christopher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting problem with separated MIME email
I'm a moderator on a couple of other lists (LYRIS based) and the moderation mail comes in with separated MIME, which makes it display the contents as 2 attachments. Is there a way of making TheBat display these messages in 'raw' form, rather than attachments? If not, is there a way of making regex replacements search the entire raw message? Currently, it only searches the pseudo-attachment that you have opened. I'm looking for a way of making accept/reject a little more automated, by using reply template for accept, forward template for reject. -- Best regards, Mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
Julius, I know how you feel about the mailing list. I too kinda felt that way when I first signed up, but I don't think it's as bad as you may think. The Bat! is EXTREMELY powerful and allows for a LOT of tweaks and edits to customize almost every nuance to your personal preferences. I joined this list because I was thinking it would help me learn about the product faster, but if anything I found that most of the posts here are WAY over my head. :) Most of the threads here are not the typical fare that the average user would address. The average user isn't going to know, much less care, about the merit so PGP vs. sMime. So, take most of the posts with a grain of salt, because many posts here are dealing with beta, or just released versions and features that most users are not going to use. Personally, I've found TB to be extremely reliable and it does everything I need. Additionally, as I poke around the program I continually find more and more features that just blow my socks off. For example, I just figured out how to use "Quick Templates" and like a kid in a candy store! :P So, although you may see a lot of "issues" addressed here, don't take them to heart. You're looking at posts that have a high "geek" quotient and are far above the average e-mail fare. In my book, there is no more secure and reliable e-mail client out there. Michael T. Ashby Consultant The Ashby Group http://www.ashbygroup.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:37:31 AM, you wrote: MS> At Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 2:36:13 PM, Julius wrote: >> Hi there, List members , >> I signed-on and purchased my entry to the bat! about 2 weeks ago. >> I was expecting a reasonable new alternative to OE. MS> And it is definately that. >> But all I see is about 200 e-mail exchanges per day!! about PROBLEMS with TB and >> hopes for better versions etc. MS> It is a high-volume mail list - whether this is because a series of MS> new releases have just come out or not would be conjecture on my part, MS> as I've been on the list less than a week. However, I've been on MS> other mailing lists for Eudora that are fairly high-volume all the MS> time. MS> That being said, I've been using TheBat for over a year, and am more MS> than satisfied with it, having gone thru OE, Eudora, Calypso, MS> Incredimail, and others. >> How can we/you spend all our time nit-picking the program of our choice every >> time we sign-on to the net?? >> Easier for me to go back to OE and not have to read 200 questions/ day about TB. >AND WE >> PAID FOR TB!! While OE and NS are free. MS> And they are worth every cent you paid. :) >> Isn't there something wrong here guys??? >> Listen, I paid my money for the bat! but can't believe the research work >> (hundreds of daily messages) I have >> to participate in to use it. This is not a useful tool it is a JOB which I >> don't need right now. And I don't see any ending to it... just generates more >> and more questions on the site. MS> Well, you don't *have* to read it all, or read it at all, for that MS> matter. Unsubscribe, or read only the threads that interest you. MS> A tip - this is one list where view by thread works well. A lot of MS> them are hopeless in this mode. >> Can we end this and get a decent product out of the bat! ? I think we should >> address our problems/questions/requests to the authors, in Russia or Belarus, >> and stop trying to outguess them and provide ideas that have to be tested >> every time, regardless of comments from "moderators" with credentials. >> Let's make this work!! Ideas?? MS> I don't know about that. This seems one of the more useful mailing MS> lists I've been on. THe authors of TheBat have more productive things MS> to do (V2.0) and let the users help those that want help. Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intermittent send problem
Hello Christopher, You can set up BAT! to do POP authentication automatically before retrieving email. Go to Account->Property->Transport, you will notice a Authentication button next to the SMTP server setting. Click on it, and click both Perform SMTP authentication and Use POP before SMTP Authentication. That should work. On 1 May 2002 09:10:39 (my local time 01:10:39), Christopher Taylor-Davies wrote: > However, if I try to send mail from Compuserve *before* I check for > POP3 mail on the non-Compuserve server then I get the message. Simply > checking for incoming pop3 mail then resending the message clears the > error. -- Regards, Anthony Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
At Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 2:36:13 PM, Julius wrote: > Hi there, List members , > I signed-on and purchased my entry to the bat! about 2 weeks ago. > I was expecting a reasonable new alternative to OE. And it is definately that. > But all I see is about 200 e-mail exchanges per day!! about PROBLEMS with TB and > hopes for better versions etc. It is a high-volume mail list - whether this is because a series of new releases have just come out or not would be conjecture on my part, as I've been on the list less than a week. However, I've been on other mailing lists for Eudora that are fairly high-volume all the time. That being said, I've been using TheBat for over a year, and am more than satisfied with it, having gone thru OE, Eudora, Calypso, Incredimail, and others. > How can we/you spend all our time nit-picking the program of our choice every > time we sign-on to the net?? > Easier for me to go back to OE and not have to read 200 questions/ day about TB. AND >WE > PAID FOR TB!! While OE and NS are free. And they are worth every cent you paid. :) > Isn't there something wrong here guys??? > Listen, I paid my money for the bat! but can't believe the research work > (hundreds of daily messages) I have > to participate in to use it. This is not a useful tool it is a JOB which I > don't need right now. And I don't see any ending to it... just generates more > and more questions on the site. Well, you don't *have* to read it all, or read it at all, for that matter. Unsubscribe, or read only the threads that interest you. A tip - this is one list where view by thread works well. A lot of them are hopeless in this mode. > Can we end this and get a decent product out of the bat! ? I think we should > address our problems/questions/requests to the authors, in Russia or Belarus, > and stop trying to outguess them and provide ideas that have to be tested > every time, regardless of comments from "moderators" with credentials. > Let's make this work!! Ideas?? I don't know about that. This seems one of the more useful mailing lists I've been on. THe authors of TheBat have more productive things to do (V2.0) and let the users help those that want help. -- Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Yuki, @01 May 2002, 21:10:29 +0900 (13:10 UK time) Yuki Taga wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have no idea how to set the S/MIME setting to MS CryptoAPI. I > simply have enable S/MIME checked in Account Properties/Options. > Will unchecking it make this problem go away? No. Visit "Options | S/MIME" from the main menu and that's where you can change the settings. Of course, you could have located it in the Menu Navigator . - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8z+H1OeQkq5KdzaARAm6hAJ4ljdEGMDyxiHWDEOgfSaGmzutz4QCgsBxL jLheM47v5uY8lKo/xSVCJCQ= =2I5n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Email
Hmmm, so it is. I just did a tracert on it and sure enough, located on my machine. Oh well I upgrade the signatures every morning in any case. Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 10:13:48 PM, Ricardo wrote: > don't be confused: your mail is being checked _in your machine_ , the > address pop.norton.antivirus is a fake one, that points to a local > service. The signatures used to check the emails are the ones > installed on your machine, and not necesary the latest. > The antivirus acts just like a filter between your mail program and > your mail serve -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000 [version 5.0.2195] Mail Client: THE BAT 1.60h Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
Same problem, same solution as you. Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 7:00:51 AM, Yuki wrote: > Don't know what is going on folks, but I'm sure someone does. This > list only, e-mail is showing up with what appears to be a yellow > clock symbol with the envelope symbol. Any such e-mail, when > selected, does not then relinquish the viewer when another such > e-mail is subsequently selected. So, if I have a bunch of them in a > row, as I do tonight, I cannot scroll through the message list. > So, I will delete any such e-mail, unread, before performing any > other action. What a PITA! -- Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows 2000 [version 5.0.2195] Mail Client: Ritlabs THE BAT 1.60h IBM Retired Marietta, GA 30064-5428 Home Page:http://www.goughfamily.com/home/albums.htm Family Tree: http://www.goughfamily.com/familytree/goughtree.html Professional: http://www.goughfamily.com/resume/software_expert.html Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:04:19 AM RE: "All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!" Greetings Julius, On Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 12:36:13 AM, you wrote: Julius> Hi there, List members , Julius> I signed-on and purchased my entry to the bat! about 2 weeks ago. Julius> I was expecting a reasonable new alternative to OE. Two weeks is hardly enough time to learn the in's and out's of The_Bat! Julius> Easier for me to go back to OE and not have to read 200 questions/ day about TB. AND WE Julius> PAID FOR TB!! While OE and NS are free. For some OE is easier because it requires little or no setup from the user perspective besides setting up the e-mail and news accounts. You may play around with some settings to enhance it a bit but from from a poweruser's view comparing OE to The_Bat! is like comparing Wordpad with MSWord. Granted OE can perform it's job, simplistically speaking, but contains none of the power of The_Bat! Julius> Let's make this work!! Ideas?? It does work if you allow yourself to take some time and experiment with it, play around with the more powerful features and get it set to run the way you wish. I have been a The_Bat! registered user for over two years. I have found it extremely powerful, totally configurable and, yes, it does have it's problems but I would invite you to subscribe to either msnews.microsoft.com and select the Outlook and Outlook Express newsgroups to give yourself an idea of what problems are encountered with those products. Further, I would HIGHLY suggest you subscribe to the Microsoft_Alerts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see for yourself exactly how many holes and unsecure Outlook Express is. Bugs found about 3 times a week and some of them system critical. In closing no software is perfect. I have yet to use any poweruser application, under any OS, that does not have a learning curve nor problems. Hell, I can't even find one OS that I have used, from DOS, to Unix, to Linux, through all versions of Win16 or Win32 platforms. Anyway ... I have rambled on long enough and please understand this is MY opinion only and, as "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one." holds true, in every discussion, MY opinion remains just that. My opinion. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. You never finish a program, you just stop working on it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPM/g6IltdOMeoDcuEQJwtACgt6hk+7ceju7APeUhUcWqFoB+DigAoLbx T+2eYTythyrl5YxlFxas5ftn =zck+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What the hell???
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:26:24 PM, Marck wrote: MDP> Switch your S/MIME setting to MS CryptoAPI and then you will see MDP> that the mail are simply ordinary S/MIME singed messages. The MDP> "Internal" S/MIME support is broken in the 'h' release. MDP> Either that or downgrade to 'c'. Yuck. I don't really want to downgrade to 'c', because then I'm stuck with the menu navigator button on the title bar, which I'm s happy to finally be rid of. I have no idea how to set the S/MIME setting to MS CryptoAPI. I simply have enable S/MIME checked in Account Properties/Options. Will unchecking it make this problem go away? Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 8:17:16 PM, Marck wrote: MDP> @01 May 2002, 20:38:15 -0500 (02:38 UK time) Michael Disabato wrote in MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>>> Valid here using the CryptoAPI. >> The only problem I have with this is that, in my lexicon, Microsoft >> and Security don't fit well in the same sentence, unless the word >> "non-existent" is also used. :) MDP> LOL! Just be thankful they merely implemented rather than invented the MDP> standard! (or did they ...?) Remember, this is the same company that touted .NET as a secure way for them to store all your data on their servers, so they could dish it out to businesses on request. Yet, if you have a .NET passport, and you sign in to it, the first thing it does is warn you that the information (your .NET user ID and password) you are about to send is going out over an insecure Internet (accept Yes or No, but there is no alternative to Yes if you want to sign in). Who is missing something here, them or me? :) I am so glad "hailstorm" has fizzled into a drizzle. Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Allie, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 4:01:29 AM, you digitally penned the following; ACM> Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote: ACM> ... ACM>> Once setup correctly Lynda's signatures are all valid. ACM> ^^^ ACM> That should have read 'Lynna's'. My ACM> apologies Lynna. :-) Thats okay, I went through many of my public school years being called "Linda" by my school bus driver... Mr. Trammel. He never did get it right. And I never told him any different LOL ; ) Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat!1.60h Windows XP PGP ( Public ) Key available at www.apostolic-friends.net/pgpkey.htm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBPM/a2H7nBw6G0JgJAQFibgf9FlH9YKNCW4y6+xPv0LjGX8mp3ExcD4e4 L/4UVN3LbaY3/eRQP5vHP//HxR2ebflVx96MTVTnhbut2apdM/JXPaP0UY7/YDOO wjIN/UJOAsCxh9MkyUMrIt9RWrZ+mAltQbnv4kKmsKagf+YVMu6KdE6dTbYl9w7S OysOCyMtcNUFhvcvyMayPZe6jqaYysJtnMcWJFJEGmIl/MA1TZMAX0F9hQcfmkWG iROc0Nw4E8epuqtR5wACQpDxUSBweFsy5zyajqj1DY03mYTzsjgyUiZabWEB0gvz L1GMv8WBWewmvoUz1n+rcY8B88I+4stY7LcEI9hwDM+8YUVIAST/Pg== =c/EN -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote: ... ACM> Once setup correctly Lynda's signatures are all valid. ^^^ That should have read 'Lynna's'. My apologies Lynna. :-) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60h | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE8z9kZV8nrYCsHF+IRAlaCAJ9EtXcnRK+xNmk+qc+ecbYeKy8WHgCeOlFl zc790XVP6oJZwGbMJOrq5D8= =HhY9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Anti-Virus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Michael, Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 3:30:41 AM, you digitally penned the following; MD> Wednesday, May 1, 2002, 6:18:14 AM, Lynna scribbled: LL>> Michaels emails are showing a VALID signature to me and I am LL>> using the Microsoft CryptoAPI setting in version "160.h" So LL>> as far as I can see, I have no problems viewing emails from LL>> persons using either setting. AND the majority of LL>> certificates I have seen are showing as VALID. MD> What does it show when you use the internal? MD> And yours are still invalid here, BTW. MD> Mike When I switched to the "INTERNAL" setting I could not view the text on this email. It was a blank white page. I could see the icon in the list of messages showing that this was SMIME signed email but when I opened the emial I didnt see the SMIME certificate or any text it was just WHITE. I was able to click on the other emails, and view those which were not signed. Though it seemed a bit "sticky". I would agree that it is the "internal" SMIME function that is broke in this version of TB! To use SMIME in version "h" one needs to use the Microsoft CryptoAPI setting. - -- Regards, Lynna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat!1.60h Windows XP PGP ( Public ) Key available at www.apostolic-friends.net/pgpkey.htm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBPM/VxX7nBw6G0JgJAQFXUQf/SAyfoCLgGoCZhbfNVCAmFb5eruj9ShBe 8okJ8EjVkvp22ZmF85M3YCR0jCF/3u4vLvGTygPfiQGnN/etCZ79EyRmVaJX9K4Q 8Rd+r88h7h3ZOiKY0CdHFEx/SeYEUSUur9ESt1S/SlJU6KemFJIDpsGi1KKYmCcG lqPoFl7tSl8c+YqwMEsNnBFDaPWvWA+wRCcqM8hnEsNcrmhUXZU4oIuXghtbeLTt AUzSoJewtCd/jm5cvKd3JGmE2rnoBEzqNj4Rj2srlLqv9J7o3XM4Ges/X+OJ4sjQ 8OCjf0Rxu3qUALWwWmhYRryAZ0u274B3j3oQtD7ycQ9juj3XwazOfg== =Xzx+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
