Re[3]: TB Hangs on Fetch
Friday, May 3, 2002, 7:16:28 PM, you wrote: JA> On Fri, 3 May 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote: >> Hi again .. >> >> The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no >> bounds; in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, >> and the rebooting was driving me nuts. JA> What was causing it? Bad paths? Glitch? Sorry, I should have said .. it was the 'attach' directory, which came in with the old path. I corrected that, and the problem seems to have gone away. >> That leaves what to do about purging/compressing the trash >> folder. JA> Try turning it off, running it manually... see what JA> happens... if it still hangs, maybe it is have JA> problems compressing white spaces (that is what I'm JA> assuming TB! compress function is doing anyway). I was actually running it manually, but did test it as compress on close ... that is what you mean, isn't it? Same result either way. JA> If this is the case, it may be something on your PC JA> that could be causing it... maybe like disk JA> compression (Double space) for example? Nope. No disk compression. No fancy stuff like that, and it's a brand new OS install, and the software has all gone up on the first pass. JA> Another idea might be your virus scanner (if you have JA> one). It may be trying to read the file as TB! tries JA> to read it (most scanners do that so you cannot open JA> an infected file). If the virus scanner has the file JA> 'locked' in a scan, TB! isn't likely to be able to JA> compress it because it's being used. The program I JA> write has a similar problem when dealing with the JA> database... We advise our clients to turn of active JA> system scans, but leave scans for things such as disks JA> etc on... purely because the virus scanner holds the JA> file locked for just too long. If you've got one... JA> try disabling it. No good .. I tried it just now, same result. Locked up tight. [snip...] >> I'm still hoping someone will know whether it's safe >> just to delete the folder. JA> Are you talking about deleting it from inside TB!? Yes .. the only folder that won't compress/purge is the trash folder - all the others work fine. No doubt this is partly because I didn't do it for so long, and obviously that folder gets more traffic than any other location. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa .. but I'd like to reform, really! JA> or on the HDD itself? I think the later wouldn't work, JA> and you'll probably get errors asking where the folder JA> is (depending on the type of folder I believe). I know JA> if you specify a specific attachment folder, then JA> delete that, TB! automatically regenerates it... but JA> I'm not sure about other folders... it might do it for JA> things like Trash, and Inbox... but custom folders I JA> doubt... How about creating a dummy folder, dropping a JA> copy of a couple of emails in there, so TB! knows it JA> has data, then closing TB!, and removing the dummy JA> folder... and reopening... see what the outcome is... JA> It's a dummy folder, with duplicated emails... so you JA> should have nothing to worry about. Since it's the trash folder, and the worst result I could think of would be that I would have to re-install, I just tried to delete it, (in TB) but it appears not to be deleteable. No error message, no info message, just no result whatever. The folder option 'delete' is actually greyed out. Hmmm ... Might have to take my life in my hands and try deleting it straight off the drive after all, though it does seem a risky idea. Better back up the critical stuff first :-) I'll give that some thought ... and thanks for the input! I'm still here reading, so if something else should occur ... Thanks again - Lynn [snip] -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: connection centre
Saturday, May 4, 2002, 12:30:33 AM, you wrote: >> >> At the top your your screen, click "account" then click "view log". >> A> Nope. That isn't the Log that appears in Connection Centre. View log A> just views addresses. That one has an icon, BTW, easy to locate. Bring up your log and look towards the bottom. I bet you have "highlights only" checked. Uncheck it and you should see all the connection details. -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[3]: connection centre
Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:42:32 PM, you wrote: >> > >> >> Nope. That isn't the Log that appears in Connection Centre. View log >> just views addresses. That one has an icon, BTW, easy to locate. >> JA> Ahh... I cannot validate this from here... using pine. I thought that log JA> option showed the connection logs. I'm sure I'd seen it somewhere anyway. JA> If I am incorrect, I appologise for the confusion. Mine shows all events, such as connection to server, auth, articles received and connection closed. It shows all events for both pop and smtp server connections. It is an account based log tho. If you have more than one account, you have more than one log. I can't find any single log that contains all events for all accounts. Of course, that's not saying there isn't one somewhere;) -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: connection centre
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Adam wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Ben Mills wrote: > > > > > Friday, May 3, 2002, 10:18:20 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > JA> Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I > > JA> think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking > > JA> for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. > > JA> ;) > > > > At the top your your screen, click "account" then click "view log". > > > > Nope. That isn't the Log that appears in Connection Centre. View log > just views addresses. That one has an icon, BTW, easy to locate. > Ahh... I cannot validate this from here... using pine. I thought that log option showed the connection logs. I'm sure I'd seen it somewhere anyway. If I am incorrect, I appologise for the confusion. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB Hangs on Fetch
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Yuki Taga wrote: > Saturday, May 4, 2002, 9:40:47 AM, Lynn wrote: > > LT> The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no bounds; > LT> in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, and the > LT> rebooting was driving me nuts. > > I have never experienced this type of hang, but since version h, and > now still at least twice with i, I have gotten an 'unable to connect' > when trying to retrieve. The work around is to kill and restart the > connection; I always get in then, and I usually get in many times > later. But eventually I seem to get this 'unable' again (never on an > initial connect, once in a while on subsequent attempts only). I am > inclined to believe this is some kind of a TB problem, although I do > not notice anyone confirming this. > > Best, > > Yuki I used to get a similar affect when I tried checking too close together... As I have access to the mail server log files, I was able to see that I was trying to force a connection to a locked mail box. My old ISP held onto lock files for at least 10 mins as well if you tried to cancel the connection, or the connection got terminated abnormally. Maybe this is a similar kind of thing, and maybe TB! is possibly dropping the connection abnormally for some reason. I have noticed one thing with my version (1.60c I believe)... the log messages appearing at the bottom (in the drop down list) are a little less informative than they used to be... like "Server reported error: " or something like that, and not actually display anything. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: TB Hangs on Fetch
Saturday, May 4, 2002, 9:40:47 AM, Lynn wrote: LT> The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no bounds; LT> in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, and the LT> rebooting was driving me nuts. I have never experienced this type of hang, but since version h, and now still at least twice with i, I have gotten an 'unable to connect' when trying to retrieve. The work around is to kill and restart the connection; I always get in then, and I usually get in many times later. But eventually I seem to get this 'unable' again (never on an initial connect, once in a while on subsequent attempts only). I am inclined to believe this is some kind of a TB problem, although I do not notice anyone confirming this. Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck,
Thank you for your patience!
On 04-05-2002 04:23, you wrote:
M> Not you - me! I tested them as 1, 2 and 3. Then I forgot to rename
M> them in the transcription. So sorry :-(.
M> %TO=""%TO=_"%QINCLUDE=#GETNAME#" <%QINCLUDE=#GETADDR#>_
M> Is what I meant for the SETTO QT.
If I put the above line in the template and the other two in the QT, I
get the following result:
To: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To me this indicates that the name is not extracted right (I am not
complaining about your work, just trying to help you help me )?
The name extractor is:
%REGEXPTEXT='.*\n(?-m)navn:\s(.*)\n'
Could it be that the first lines of the e-mail is wreaking havoc?
> Subject: xxx
> Nedenfor er resultatet af din e-mail formular.
> Indsendt af [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> navn: AAA BBB CCC
I just noticed! These lines ("Nedenfor..." and "Indsendt...") are not
shown as part of the body in TheBat - they were in Eudora. Does this
change anything?
--
Best regards
Peter Fjelsten
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Re: connection centre
On Friday, May 3, 2002, 8:37:51 PM, Adam wrote: > How could I review the Connection Centre stats after mail check? ctrl-shft-a ? -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @04 May 2002, 22:26:28 -0400 (03:26 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > They all look like this. Are the folder templates filled in from > the Account templates? That is where I defined this. Okay - that makes sense and matches. I still think you have a rogue "Reply" template in the properties of one of your folders. Or perhaps it leaked into an address book entry? > %WRAPPED="%Quotes"%Cursor NB: %WRAPPED="%Quotes" will only wrap the first paragraph of the quotes... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE800rWOeQkq5KdzaARAor7AJ9/hfGcwbc/jMdrehF7WOTQ8IB/+QCgnjKh sFR/lkszax0yHJ+i/kmNS/I= =NhKm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: connection centre
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Ben Mills wrote: > > > Friday, May 3, 2002, 10:18:20 PM, you wrote: > > > JA> Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I > JA> think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking > JA> for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. > JA> ;) > > At the top your your screen, click "account" then click "view log". > Nope. That isn't the Log that appears in Connection Centre. View log just views addresses. That one has an icon, BTW, easy to locate. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: connection centre
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set) to write the following on Friday, May 3, 2002 at 10:18:20 PM. Ctrl-Shift-A brings up the log. JA> Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I JA> think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking JA> for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. JA> ;) >> How could I review the Connection Centre stats after mail check? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: connection centre
Friday, May 3, 2002, 10:18:20 PM, you wrote: JA> Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I JA> think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking JA> for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. JA> ;) At the top your your screen, click "account" then click "view log". JA> On Fri, 3 May 2002, Adam wrote: >> >> How could I review the Connection Centre stats after mail check? >> -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @04 May 2002, 04:14:29 +0200 (03:14 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The 2 first are QTs, right? How do they get called from the "super > template", i.e. what is the relationship between GETADDR and #1#? Or > am I to replace #1# with GETADDR? > Sorry for being dim-witted. Not you - me! I tested them as 1, 2 and 3. Then I forgot to rename them in the transcription. So sorry :-(. %TO=""%TO=_"%QINCLUDE=#GETNAME#" <%QINCLUDE=#GETADDR#>_ Is what I meant for the SETTO QT. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE800YVOeQkq5KdzaARAoP0AKC9exBV9Vl2Wp++c/oB4ryjIOi40wCg3BXP KUHenPOi2uinbMDFkLnfw4I= =tbCf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60d/iKey1000) to write the following on Friday, May 3, 2002 at 12:22:16 PM. MDP> I'll wager that's your account default template... mind you, that's MDP> just the "New message" template. Agreed. MDP> How about the reply one? They all look like this. Are the folder templates filled in from the Account templates? That is where I defined this. Hey %OFromFName, My MUA believes you used %SETPATTREGEXP="(?im)^(X\-Mailer)\:\s(.*?)$"%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS X-Mailer: (X-Mailer not set)"%-%SUBPATT="2" to write the following on %ODateEn at %OTimeLongEn. %WRAPPED="%Quotes"%Cursor -- %FromAddr MUA = TB! v%TheBatVersion (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) %WindowsPlatformName %WindowsMajorVersion.%WindowsMinorVersion.%WindowsBuildNumber (%WindowsCsdVersion) %Cookies="D:\http\OneLiners.txt" %singlere -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) I was the next door kid's imaginary friend. Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: connection centre
Isn't there an option in the menus somewhere to view the log files? I think TB! keeps a 'temp' log file. Maybe that is what you are looking for? I'd give you a menu to where it is... but I'm at home, using Pine. ;) On Fri, 3 May 2002, Adam wrote: > > How could I review the Connection Centre stats after mail check? > -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: TB Hangs on Fetch
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote: > Hi again .. > > The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no > bounds; in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, > and the rebooting was driving me nuts. What was causing it? Bad paths? Glitch? > That leaves what to do about purging/compressing the trash > folder. Try turning it off, running it manually... see what happens... if it still hangs, maybe it is have problems compressing white spaces (that is what I'm assuming TB! compress function is doing anyway). If this is the case, it may be something on your PC that could be causing it... maybe like disk compression (Double space) for example? Another idea might be your virus scanner (if you have one). It may be trying to read the file as TB! tries to read it (most scanners do that so you cannot open an infected file). If the virus scanner has the file 'locked' in a scan, TB! isn't likely to be able to compress it because it's being used. The program I write has a similar problem when dealing with the database... We advise our clients to turn of active system scans, but leave scans for things such as disks etc on... purely because the virus scanner holds the file locked for just too long. If you've got one... try disabling it. > The paths all seem to be correct in TB's configuration and > also in the registry. I'm still hoping someone will know > whether it's safe just to delete the folder. Are you talking about deleting it from inside TB!? or on the HDD itself? I think the later wouldn't work, and you'll probably get errors asking where the folder is (depending on the type of folder I believe). I know if you specify a specific attachment folder, then delete that, TB! automatically regenerates it... but I'm not sure about other folders... it might do it for things like Trash, and Inbox... but custom folders I doubt... How about creating a dummy folder, dropping a copy of a couple of emails in there, so TB! knows it has data, then closing TB!, and removing the dummy folder... and reopening... see what the outcome is... It's a dummy folder, with duplicated emails... so you should have nothing to worry about. > So I'll watch and wait ... tia for input! > > Lynn > > Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:25:08 AM, you wrote: > > [snip] > > >> Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous > >> issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and > >> purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) > >> and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's > >> 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing > >> the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix > >> for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the > >> program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will > >> that work? > > JA> I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the > JA> paths set in your program (and/or registry), and if > JA> they are incorrect, change them to the correct > JA> location. > > [snip] Hope some of these ideas bring some inspiration :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck, On 04-05-2002 03:53, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 04-05-2002 03:53)... M> Here you go: M> ,- [ GETADDR ] M> | %REGEXPTEXT='.*\n(?U-m)mail:\s(.*)\n' M> `- M> ,- [ GETNAME ] M> | %REGEXPTEXT='.*\n(?-m)navn:\s(.*)\n' M> `- M> ,- [ SETTO ] M> | %TO=""%TO=_"%QINCLUDE=#2#" <%QINCLUDE=#1#>_ M> `- The 2 first are QTs, right? How do they get called from the "super template", i.e. what is the relationship between GETADDR and #1#? Or am I to replace #1# with GETADDR? Sorry for being dim-witted. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Århus C, Denmark Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @04 May 2002, 01:20:58 +0200 (00:20 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > All correct. I think that it may have something to do with the QTs > as your first reg exp worked great. To me that suggests that it is > in the joining something goes wrong? Here you go: ,- [ GETADDR ] | %REGEXPTEXT='.*\n(?U-m)mail:\s(.*)\n' `- ,- [ GETNAME ] | %REGEXPTEXT='.*\n(?-m)navn:\s(.*)\n' `- ,- [ SETTO ] | %TO=""%TO=_"%QINCLUDE=#2#" <%QINCLUDE=#1#>_ `- - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80z8DOeQkq5KdzaARAkwvAJ0fF07DABaJ3RmQM+yt2dKpFtnpqgCfaGFL C//9ak+r4Wh+YFjAJfEI15w= =M9u6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Interesting problem with separated MIME email
At Thursday, May 2, 2002, 7:13:35 AM, Allie wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> Mike Smith [MS] wrote:
> ...
MS>> I'm a moderator on a couple of other lists (LYRIS based) and the
MS>> moderation mail comes in with separated MIME, which makes it
MS>> display the contents as 2 attachments. Is there a way of making
MS>> TheBat display these messages in 'raw' form, rather than
MS>> attachments?
> I think you're referring to bursting the digest?
Perhaps - I've got an example below.
> No, there's no
> automatic way of doing this. You have to manually copy the attached
> messages to the desired location.
For the puposes I intend, this would be tedious and wasteful, cos I'd
be discarding immediately afterward.
Here's a cut down version of what the message looks like, when I save
the entire message to disk, then open it with TextPad. I've cut
extraneous and identifying portions from it.
Start
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/digest;
boundary="---+---+--+-+---+++-++-+-++-++-++-"
-+---+--+-+---+++-++-+-++-++-++-
The attached message destined for has been received. This
message requires your approval before it will be sent to the list.
---
To approve this message, send the following two line message to
login (enter your password here)
moderate approve 22398
---
To reject this message, send the following two line message to
login (enter your password here)
moderate reject 22398
---
-+---+--+-+---+++-++-+-++-++-++-
-+---+--+-+---+++-++-+-++-++-++---
End
MS>> If not, is there a way of making regex replacements search the
MS>> entire raw message? Currently, it only searches the
MS>> pseudo-attachment that you have opened. I'm looking for a way of
MS>> making accept/reject a little more automated, by using reply
MS>> template for accept, forward template for reject.
> Would you explain this part further. I don't quite understand what
> you're getting at.
OK, I'm looking at doing the following in my reply template
%TO="Lyris List Manager "
%CC="list owner's addy"
%SUBJECT=" 'listname' moderated message %1 approved"
Mail forwarded to 'listname' mailing list owner
login myPassword
moderate approve %1
end quiet
(TheBat macro)
===8<==Original message text===
%Text
===8<===End of original message text===
And similarly in my forward macro, but with reject instead of approve.
I'm wanting to use a regex something like \([0-9]\{5\}\) to set my
first replaceable to (in the above example, 22398) - this works fine
if the example email doesn't have this number in the MIME
pseudo-attachment (pseudo, because it isn't really an attachment,
IMO.)
My second way of skinning this cat would be to save messages that met
my filtering criteria for this folder to disk, and write a c++ app
that used a FindFirstChangeNotification to notice the files, open
them, regex them, and create an approriate reply - somewhat more
work, but less of a compromise, in the end.
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Re[2]: TB Hangs on Fetch
Hi again .. The fetch hang seems to be fixed. My gratitude knows no bounds; in the usual way of things my system is up 24/7, and the rebooting was driving me nuts. That leaves what to do about purging/compressing the trash folder. The paths all seem to be correct in TB's configuration and also in the registry. I'm still hoping someone will know whether it's safe just to delete the folder. So I'll watch and wait ... tia for input! Lynn Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:25:08 AM, you wrote: [snip] >> Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous >> issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and >> purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) >> and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's >> 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing >> the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix >> for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the >> program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will >> that work? JA> I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the JA> paths set in your program (and/or registry), and if JA> they are incorrect, change them to the correct JA> location. [snip] -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: S/MIME questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Tim, Thursday, May 2, 2002, 3:04:40 PM, you digitally penned the following; T> I, too, have been trying S/MIME since reading the recent posts, and T> now have some questions for the list. T> I've been swapping around with 1.60c and 1.60h (and now 1.60i), and T> I'm not sure whether I've tried everything below with each version. T> 1. I think I am correctly signing emails, using CryptoAPI. They certainly T> appear signed in TB!, but when I sent a message to my work email and T> checked it at work (where I am forced to use Outlook 98), the text was T> present with no signature. It's possible that the company firewall T> stripped the signature as a disallowed attachment. T> So, is this email properly signed? When I view your e-mail it shows to be valid / signed with SMIME. I have no problems reading your e-mail either and I am using TB! version "h". I have not downloaded "i" as yet. Regards, Lynna Using TB!160.h on Windows XP Home Edition, Athlon 800 mhz, 512 mb RAM. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQEVAwUBPNMrHX7nBw6G0JgJAQF6Dgf+LnB9ur2gW6Vo0dHO50elggZE/rPN6h+b Gkm8qKz4PzsnqGWA8WjbNuQ1RNt7pDbjqJdgdvEh8FKv5iwHWVjUxmJh86sDksIC ++CYkEVIxCSCfgqNL9mnjZyYiClDrx8x/aolBu7z5/MjgNOPAnqaL+mO79QbmIkM J/1PpdRVZByocth9vTUZ/kj+HeE7XX8Od4eHSCL7r3AY8/cfsUMxlJTECwZC1+lW WQ1fr/670C/AdF4bD1HhwP1x7Kk7Tl3j2XEWGREo9JxPWOo3CYtespPi7NsVZeAU Owabu7N9auS/zB6nTPwrGITcUWBzYmubglhIQg48fAJ1ug1WaKqa3A== =z4oF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck, On 04-05-2002 00:59, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 04-05-2002 00:59)... M> It may be me - I was just guessing from what you *said* the format M> was. No disrespect meant, but that may not have been a detailed enough M> description to get the right answer. Maybe not. Received: Blah From: Blah To: Blah Subject: Blah - Text line 1 Text line 2 (Form mail inserts) navn: X tlf: Y firmanavn: seNr: adresse: land: land2: mail: Maybe it goes wrong at the first line? %TO=''%TO='%REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"' extracts only the mail address perfectly (I know the second version includes QTs. M> The main body of the GETADDR M> macro is this: M> .* any number of character (including white space and line feeds). M> \n a CR/LF M> mail: immediately followed (beginning of new line) by "mail:" - M> NB: No spaces! Correct. M> \s One white space character Correct. M> ( (Start recording) M> .*\@.* any number of characters, a literal '@' sign any number of M> characters up to ... M> ) (Stop recording) M> \s A white space character. All correct. I think that it may have something to do with the QTs as your first reg exp worked great. To me that suggests that it is in the joining something goes wrong? -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Århus C, Denmark Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @03 May 2002, 00:08:08 +0200 (23:08 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just tried it. > When I apply this, the mail is addressed to "\\" (including the "). > I have made a quick template called GETADDR containing > %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s" and a GETNAME containing > %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nnavn:\s(.*)\n" > What am I doing wrong? It may be me - I was just guessing from what you *said* the format was. No disrespect meant, but that may not have been a detailed enough description to get the right answer. The main body of the GETADDR macro is this: .* any number of character (including white space and line feeds). \n a CR/LF mail: immediately followed (beginning of new line) by "mail:" - NB: No spaces! \s One white space character ( (Start recording) .*\@.* any number of characters, a literal '@' sign any number of characters up to ... ) (Stop recording) \s A white space character. Now, if you can think of a reason that logic wouldn't be able to pick the address out of the line ... :-) - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80xZFOeQkq5KdzaARAni7AJwJ5vr1A0h7o9y3CLlAvJHOIp3/6gCff29u jRcFyHb9e64qxplxlpAAjkI= =I+7x -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
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Hi Peter,
@03 May 2002, 23:47:33 +0200 (22:47 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> First let me say that your answers are excellent!
M>> TB is one of the few MUAs that can nicely reformat quoted text.
M>> Focus into a quoted paragraph, press Alt-L and the quote prefix is
M>> removed, the paragraph reformatted and the prefix replaced.
> I don't understand. What is this supposed to do?
When a paragraph of quoted text is long or has already been long
line/short line distorted, TB will let you reflow the quoted text,
either using autoformat (that's how I do it - put the cursor at the
end of the last line of a quoted paragraph and hit space) or by using
the "reformat" shortcut keystroke of Alt-L.
M>> No, but there's a recursive template you can use to do that job. I
M>> used it for a while but it's not the way to go, not really.
> OK, could you post it? I am not too good with reg exp (as you have
> seen!) :)
,- [ wrap ]
| %COMMENT="%CLIPBOARD"%-
| %QINCLUDE="wrap2"
| %COMMENT=""
`-
,- [ wrap2 ]
| %IF:'%-
| %SETPATTREGEXP="(?is-m)[^\n]+"%-
| %REGEXPMATCH="%COMMENT"'<>'':'%-
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| %-%-%-%-%-%SUBPATT="1"_
|
| %COMMENT=_%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is-m)^.*?(\n((\w{0,5}(\>\s*)+)?\n)+(.*)$|\z)"%-
| %-%-%-%-%-%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%COMMENT"%-
| %-%-%-%-%-%SUBPATT="5"_%-
| %QINCLUDE="wrap2"'
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M>> ... Outgoing filters only hit after the message has been sent.
> Thought so. Regarding this reading confirmation (actually, it's an
> order confirmation I need to edit before it goes out - therefore no
> "send immediately is possible"), can I make it go into another
> folder automatically so I can use Send/Check?
> I'd like:
> Receive M1 (original mail) in Inbox
> Filter M1 to F1 (folder 1)
> Make R1 (reply with the reg exp)
> Filter R1 to F2 (not Outbox)
> I edit and move to Outbox.
Here's what I think: you have to edit the mail anyway... make the
decision to do so manually.
1) define a quick template that begins with %CLEAR and formats up the
message and all the headers as from the reply
2) open a message that fits the bill and reply to it.
3) in the editor - type the handle of the QT and Ctrl-Space.
4) you are now sitting with the reformed (R1) message in the editor to
do with as you wish.
> Is it possible to change all the macro text when an account is
> changed? I mean, if I receive mail on Account 1, open a reply for it
> and change to Account 2, then the macro stuff is still for A1.
I make all of my main QT's active in all accounts and most of my
templates are compilations of calls to %QINCLUDE them piecemeal. I
have other QT's to change fundamental signatures and formats between
accounts. It's a matter of setting these things up longhand to save
time in the end.
I see what you mean though: once a template has been "run" what's left
is plain text. All you can hope to do is use %CLEAR based quick
templates and start over.
Once again, the logic may need a break down:
What's going to change? From, Reply-To and Signature. The format of
the start of messages is pretty generic really, isn't it? I can't
think of anything else. We've already covered Reply-To; that leaves
- From and Sig. Well, From changes when you change account.
Now we're down to Sig. All of mine are individual (or summed
component) QT's which include the %ISSIGNATURE macro. That means,
anywhere in the message body, I type the handle of a sig QT and
whatever signature may appear beneath the cut mark (dash-dash-space)
is replaced by the new signature. No blood, no gore.
Any help?
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Peter Fjelsten wrote... > Maybe I just need to work some more with the editor - who know I mght > even like it at some point in the future... I quite like it... it's not too bad once you have the hang of it. Getting used to the double enter was a little bit of a pain for about a week... then it was fairly easy to use. M>> TB is one of the few MUAs that can nicely reformat quoted text. Focus M>> into a quoted paragraph, press Alt-L and the quote prefix is removed, M>> the paragraph reformatted and the prefix replaced. > I don't understand. What is this supposed to do? Take this for an example, you have your line wraps set to 72, they have their line wraps set to 80. When you hit reply, it screws up the formatting to the point where you end up with one full line, and one line with about 2 words on it. TB! allows you to just use the format function, and it tidies it all back up properly. > Is it possible to change all the macro text when an account is changed? > I mean, if I receive mail on Account 1, open a reply for it and change > to Account 2, then the macro stuff is still for A1. I've noticed this as well... Would be nice to see if there was a solution. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck, On 03-05-2002 23:14, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 03-05-2002 23:14)... M> I use a couple of QTs - GETADDR and GETNAME M> ,- [ GETADDR ] M> | %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s" M> `- M> ,- [ GETNAME ] M> | %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nnavn:\s(.*)\n" M> `- M> so the final template is M> %TO=''%TO='"%QINCLUDE=#GETNAME#" <%QINCLUDE=#GETADDR#>' Just tried it. When I apply this, the mail is addressed to "\\" (including the "). I have made a quick template called GETADDR containing %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s" and a GETNAME containing %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nnavn:\s(.*)\n" What am I doing wrong? -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Århus C, Denmark Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck,
First let me say that your answers are excellent!
On 03-05-2002 23:14, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 03-05-2002 23:14)...
>> So it's coming? Yepee!
M> It's slated for v2, although we don't know for sure it will come.
I have been messing some more with the settings and now I can overwrite
text by selecting it - things are looking brighter .
>> I have a lot of problems handling it. What options do you guys use?
>> What options would make it behave more naturally?
M> "Naturally" is a strange one.
OK, should have put "more Windows text editor-like" :)
>> I especially have problems editing quoted text after I have replied
>> to it. The ">" spring back into the block when auto format is on.
M> The trick is to always leave blank lines between what you're typing
M> and the original text. TB uses that to delineate the separate
M> paragraphs and is easily confused when they're left out.
Maybe I just need to work some more with the editor - who know I mght
even like it at some point in the future...
M> TB is one of the few MUAs that can nicely reformat quoted text. Focus
M> into a quoted paragraph, press Alt-L and the quote prefix is removed,
M> the paragraph reformatted and the prefix replaced.
I don't understand. What is this supposed to do?
M> No, but there's a recursive template you can use to do that job. I
M> used it for a while but it's not the way to go, not really.
OK, could you post it? I am not too good with reg exp (as you have
seen!) :)
>> Can I extract both the name ("navn: Xxx Yyy") and the e-mail, so the
>> message is addressed to "Xxx Yyy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"?
M> I use a couple of QTs - GETADDR and GETNAME
M> ,- [ GETADDR ]
M> | %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"
M> `-
M> ,- [ GETNAME ]
M> | %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nnavn:\s(.*)\n"
M> `-
M> so the final template is
M> %TO=''%TO='"%QINCLUDE=#GETNAME#" <%QINCLUDE=#GETADDR#>'
I will look into this. Thanks again.
>> Is there any way to make a filter that will prevent messages in the
>> outbox from being sent if the recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
M> No. Outgoing filters only hit after the message has been sent.
Thought so. Regarding this reading confirmation (actually, it's an order
confirmation I need to edit before it goes out - therefore no "send
immediately is possible"), can I make it go into another folder
automatically so I can use Send/Check?
I'd like:
Receive M1 (original mail) in Inbox
Filter M1 to F1 (folder 1)
Make R1 (reply with the reg exp)
Filter R1 to F2 (not Outbox)
I edit and move to Outbox.
M> and %qinclude it into *all* of your templates. Better still, do as I
M> do and leave your reply to address *blank* everywhere! (if it's the
M> same as the "From", why specify it at all?).
Doh! No reason. It's gone!
Is it possible to change all the macro text when an account is changed?
I mean, if I receive mail on Account 1, open a reply for it and change
to Account 2, then the macro stuff is still for A1.
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Best regards
Peter Fjelsten
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
On Friday, May 3, 2002, 3:57:50 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > nonetheless.* I hope ... > *Ain't that a nice one for English Grammar 101? ;-) nevertheless, it's real. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: List footer: Adding one
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, @03 May 2002, 22:55:45 +0200 (21:55 UK time) Dierk Haasis wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ... in this case especially: > The place where to report bugs "properly". > Wouldn't that be a good idea? Just a thought that came up because > lots of people lately ask, how to report bugs: I've done it. The footer's a bit long now, but what the heck! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80wEjOeQkq5KdzaARAq/WAJ40QL9V+kiRVD/XI2vW8whLBiWReQCgpjzS qwMte/0kkGh2YQFUQGT5HEs= =2tWr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60i FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Website regexp mistake...
Hi All,
Just trying to remove the PGP Signs and everything from the emails
that keep being posted, and I remember seeing one on TB! support
pages. When I tried to use it, it generates an error saying that a )
is missing. The one on the site has :
%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-%-
BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE|\z)"%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="4"'
(All on one line of course). The bracket is missing (I'm guessing)
from just after the 'SIGNATURE' bit. At least it appears to work on
mine anyway. Just thought I'd point that out ;)
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imap
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GPG: public key not found
Hallo, once more I'm going to bring up a PGP/GPG related issue. I want to decrypt a message addressed to me. When decrypting with TB using GPG, a box comes up saying "public key not found". When I decrypt the same message with GPG via command line, it reads "public key not found" as well, but the message gets decrypted. Now, I'm not sure whether the fault lies within my TB setup or the GPG configuration. Any hints appreciated. Daniel Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
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Hi Peter,
@03 May 2002, 21:06:11 +0200 (20:06 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> ... Conversely, can I use an external editor? How?
M>> ... not yet.
> So it's coming? Yepee!
It's slated for v2, although we don't know for sure it will come.
> Could you point me to a tutorial of TheBat editor?
There isn't one. :-(
> I have a lot of problems handling it. What options do you guys use?
> What options would make it behave more naturally?
"Naturally" is a strange one. You can't necessarily do it. That's
because it's been designed to provide well laid out plain text - not a
natural function of a Windows based text editor really, so it's always
doomed to be slightly at odds.
> I especially have problems editing quoted text after I have replied
> to it. The ">" spring back into the block when auto format is on.
The trick is to always leave blank lines between what you're typing
and the original text. TB uses that to delineate the separate
paragraphs and is easily confused when they're left out.
TB is one of the few MUAs that can nicely reformat quoted text. Focus
into a quoted paragraph, press Alt-L and the quote prefix is removed,
the paragraph reformatted and the prefix replaced.
> Can I force word wrap per default on quoted text (some mailers don't
> wrap lines properly)?
No, but there's a recursive template you can use to do that job. I
used it for a while but it's not the way to go, not really. Why? Well,
because it messes up block quoted paragraphs, non-standard quotes,
columnar text, lists and bullet points. Also, quoted text should
always be trimmed to context, so you're better off manually formatting
the eligible paragraphs you're actually keeping
M>> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html for a
M>> full list of keyboard shortcuts.
> I have been modifying some of them as CTRL+[ does not work on a
> Danish keyboard.
Aha! Right you are.
M>> %TO=''%TO='%REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"'
> Perfect. Thanks a million.
> Can I extract both the name ("navn: Xxx Yyy") and the e-mail, so the
> message is addressed to "Xxx Yyy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"?
I use a couple of QTs - GETADDR and GETNAME
,- [ GETADDR ]
| %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"
`-
,- [ GETNAME ]
| %REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nnavn:\s(.*)\n"
`-
so the final template is
%TO=''%TO='"%QINCLUDE=#GETNAME#" <%QINCLUDE=#GETADDR#>'
> Is there any way to make a filter that will prevent messages in the
> outbox from being sent if the recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
No. Outgoing filters only hit after the message has been sent.
M>> The status line at the bottom of the edit window includes the account
M>> name. Right click on it to select a different one.
> I know but then the rest of the template does not change (nor does
> Reply-to: Is there any way to set Reply-To: _always_= From?).
Yes. Write a quick template like this:
%REPLYTO='"%FROMNAME" <%FROMADDR>'
and %qinclude it into *all* of your templates. Better still, do as I
do and leave your reply to address *blank* everywhere! (if it's the
same as the "From", why specify it at all?).
M>> ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ] | etc. | | However
M>> you can "assemble" your own export templates: | (It's a relative no
M>> brainer) | | I have done one which: | Strips the HTML tags. | Keeps
> Hmm, sounds a bit complicated. (BTW, notice the weird quoting)
Yes - that's what I mean about selective wrapping. Some things just
don't wrap well at all. :-).
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Hello Marck! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 7:58:44 PM you wrote: > This doesn't apply to auto-replies created by a filter - the question > being answered... Oops ... In light of his being new, I think he can use the explanation nonetheless.* I hope ... *Ain't that a nice one for English Grammar 101? ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I think for my part one half of manhood is mad - and the other not very sound. (Derek Leveret/Benjamin Smollett) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List footer: Adding one
Hello TBUDL Members! ... in this case especially: The place where to report bugs "properly". Wouldn't that be a good idea? Just a thought that came up because lots of people lately ask, how to report bugs: > I think the old bug-reporting changed, but I can't find or remember > where it goes now, so herewith my findings... See what I mean? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wenn Ärger im Menschen ist, so macht er selten das Klügste, sondern gewöhnlich das Dümmste. (Jeremias Gotthelf) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects-now editor commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @03 May 2002, 12:31:13 -0400 (17:31 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> Turn off "Smart tabs". > that would be OPTIONS-EDITOR PREFERENCES-Smart-tabs, thanks! Oh yes, and "Auto-indent". - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80vOOOeQkq5KdzaARAphCAKCMO83jM2Pg4AocntS11DK1/A8XGQCgrP+a VJ+CKDZ4s6DRqwszgioeHgM= =CiZw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quote in a box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ricardo, @03 May 2002, 16:25:41 -0300 (20:25 UK time) Ricardo M. Reyes wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP>> ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ] MDP>> | --- MDP>> | Converting Eudora Mailboxes - a Solution: MDP>> | --- > how do you do this "quote in a box" thing? :-) It's a couple of quick templates: ,- [ BQ ] | ,- [ %CURSOR ] | %REM=_Copy clipboard into comment_%- | %COMMENT="%clipboard"%- | %- | %REM=_Does comment end with line break?_%- | %REM=_If no: add line break_%- | %IF:"%- | %- | %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is).*[\n]\z'%- | %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'"=""%- | :%- | "%COMMENT='%COMMENT | '"%- | %- | %REM=_Call the bq2 template_%- | %QINCLUDE="bq2"%- | `- `- ,- [ bq2 ] | %REM=_Does comment have two or more lines?_%- | %REM=_If yes: print | and the first line_%- | %REM=_cut this line out of comment_%- | %REM=_and call this QT again_%- | %REM=_If no: print | and the last line and exit_%- | %- | %IF:"%- | %- | %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is).*?[\n](.*)'%- | %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT'x"<>"x"%- | :"%- | %SETPATTREGEXP='(?is)(.*?)[\n]'%- | | %REGEXPMATCH='%COMMENT' | %- | %COMMENT='%- | %SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is).*?[\n](.*)""%- | %REGEXPMATCH=_%COMMENT_'%- | %QINCLUDE='bq2'"%- | :%- | "| %COMMENT%COMMENT=''"%- `- Put the text into the clipboard and type "BQ ". - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80vFuOeQkq5KdzaARApWzAJ9VGy3QY2mIeYzABtUVtZ0G7b3cDgCghsBw 6PBBF7I0V4F52K8TLEvG3F8= =c1yn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quote in a box
El viernes 3 de mayo de 2002, a las 12.17, Marck D Pearlstone decía: MDP> ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ] MDP> | --- MDP> | Converting Eudora Mailboxes - a Solution: MDP> | --- < a lot more ... > MDP> | Includes the name of any attachments in the msg body (even if the MDP> | actual attachment was deleted before the conversion). MDP> `- how do you do this "quote in a box" thing? -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Working with thread view
El viernes 3 de mayo de 2002, a las 6.47, Mitja Perko decía: MP> Is there MP> a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first MP> message. in the context menu (right click) go to the "thread" submenu -- Ricardo M. Reyes (Mar del Plata - Argentina) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail to *wrong* e-mail client
Friday, May 3, 2002, Hello udlers, I just sent myself a test message that I found back in my Netscape Comm. inbox. I must have been messing around somewhere in my account settings, but cannot figure out where. Anyone a hint? ;-/ Read you, Fré. Visit www.skripton.com Reactions & mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...there is no enlightment outside of daily life (Thich Nhat Hanh) - Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: TB Hangs on Fetch
Wow! You are *fast*! Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:25:08 AM, you wrote: JA> On Friday, May 03, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote... >> Hi all - >> I have been migrating my old NT4 system to a new machine >> with Win2000Pro SP2, and having some problems with TB I >> can't figure out. >> I installed TB v1.51 to the new Win2kPro system, and >> imported my mailboxes. This seemed to go just fine, except >> that on loading, I get a series of error messages: >> Can not access directory I:\thebat >> Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail >> Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail\Lynn >> and so on .. these refer to the locations the mailboxes >> were imported from, not to the current locations. JA> From an uneducated guess... that'd be your problem. It'd appear TB! JA> is trying to read the old files which may not be there any more. So JA> when it tries to fetch, it cannot drop the mail into folders it cannot JA> see/write to. Which might be what is causing the hang. [snip] Seems likely ... JA> I know this is not related, but we had a hell of a JA> time trying to get Wingate to run right on Win2k, with JA> VPN setup ;) I cannot see wingate, or Win2k being the JA> cause of the problem... I'd probably put it down to JA> bad paths. So far it looks fine here .. we haven't had it up long, but apart from my station, it all seems to be working fine. Fingers crossed ... [snip] >> Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous >> issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and >> purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) >> and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's >> 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing >> the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix >> for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the >> program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will >> that work? JA> I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the paths set in JA> your program (and/or registry), and if they are incorrect, change them JA> to the correct location. As for the compress/purge not working... JA> probably the same reason for the fetch hanging... (see my top theory). The only path setting I could find in the preferences folder was for attachments, but it was wrong and I changed it. Will comb the options for more, and scope out the registry. If you don't hear from me again, I got it fixed! JA> Hope this gives you some kind of an idea. Got me off the ground with places to look at least. Many thanks .. Lynn -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Marck,
On 03-05-2002 17:17, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 03-05-2002 17:17)...
>> 1) Can I make it so all threads are expanded per default
M> No. You have to press Ctrl-NumPad* to open all threads. They do not
M> stay open.
OK. Bummer.
>> 2) Can I make the editor behave like a normal text editor (it is set
>> on "stream", "autowrap", with or without "autoformat")? I am not
>> convinced about the way the Bat editor works. I cannot find any
>> tutorials on how to use it (the help file is somewhat lacking).
>> Conversely, can I use an external editor? How?
M> No and not yet.
So it's coming? Yepee! Could you point me to a tutorial of TheBat
editor? I have a lot of problems handling it. What options do you guys
use? What options would make it behave more naturally?
I especially have problems editing quoted text after I have replied to
it. The ">" spring back into the block when auto format is on.
Can I force word wrap per default on quoted text (some mailers don't
wrap lines properly)?
M> This was discussed earlier in the week. By using a simple "redirect"
M> filter and local delivery, you can have these messages dealt with by a
M> single account.
Doh! Of course. I read that message but it never occurred to me that I
could it for this purpose.
M> To do this you have to turn off the account's "Combined delivery"
M> transport option and use the filter option to queue generated messages
M> in the Outbox.
Yes. Gerard suggested this, too.
M> See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html for a full
M> list of keyboard shortcuts.
I have been modifying some of them as CTRL+[ does not work on a Danish
keyboard.
>> 6) Can anybody help me with a Reg Exp? I would like to extract the
>> some stuff from a received mail posted by a formmail and use that
>> for replies. I'd like to extract a mail address and put it into the
>> recipient field. The original mail (the posted form looks like
>> this): mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and the stuff in that line should go in
>> the To:-field.
M> %TO=''%TO='%REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"'
Perfect. Thanks a million.
Can I extract both the name ("navn: Xxx Yyy") and the e-mail, so
the message is addressed to "Xxx Yyy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"?
Is there any way to make a filter that will prevent messages in the
outbox from being sent if the recipient is [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>> 8) Can I make TheBat reply using the account the mail was sent to?
M> The status line at the bottom of the edit window includes the account
M> name. Right click on it to select a different one.
I know but then the rest of the template does not change (nor does
Reply-to: Is there any way to set Reply-To: _always_= From?).
M> ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ] | etc. | | However
M> you can "assemble" your own export templates: | (It's a relative no
M> brainer) | | I have done one which: | Strips the HTML tags. | Keeps
M> the dates intact (except the outgoing Created date). | Includes as
M> the "Subject" any changed or added Subjects (to mail in) | in Eudora.
M> | Includes the name of any attachments in the msg body (even if the |
M> actual attachment was deleted before the conversion). `-
Hmm, sounds a bit complicated. (BTW, notice the weird quoting)
Thanks for your reply.
--
Best regards
Peter Fjelsten
Århus C, Denmark
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Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Dierk, On 03-05-2002 18:32, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 03-05-2002 18:32)... D> On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 5:17:51 PM you wrote: >> To do this you have to turn off the account's "Combined delivery" >> transport option and use the filter option to queue generated messages >> in the Outbox. D> Don't forget the "hourglass" button (+). With it the message D> gets expressly left in the Outbox to edit later. The operative here is D> "left", even if you now send messages, the hourglassed (nee parked) D> one stays in the Outbox. This is what I'd like. The auto-reply to be "hourglassed" in the outbox. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Århus C, Denmark Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Gerard, On 03-05-2002 16:30, you wrote (Du skrev følgende 03-05-2002 16:30)... G> I will just anwser the ones I know for sure :-) Thanks for those... :) G> You will have to have the same filter in all your accounts but it is G> only 1 filter. What you do is filter against presence in the G> addressbook. Filter on "@" present Yes Sender. G> Then go to the Advance Tab and check "address must be listed in the G> addressbook" Select a group and you're done. Thanks. This may work. G> Select as action move to outbox and not send. Also make sure you don't G> have auto send activated or combined send & receive. Otherwise they will G> still be send. Maybe you should consider moving them to a seperate G> folder before you decided to send them. You can send the mail from this G> folder by selecting the email and moveing them to the outbox. As I'd rather have send/receive simultaneously, this might be a good idea. I cannot figure out how to do this, though. More than one filter? G> Wel it can. What I do is click on an unread msg envelope while holding G> the Alt key. This works as a quick filter. You can use this to filter on G> Sender/recipient/subject/etc. You misunderstand. I wanted a keyboard shortcut to move to the next unread message across folders. Not "view unread messages". PF>> 8) Can I make TheBat reply using the account the mail was sent to? In PF>> common folders, my default mailto:-account is used for all replies. This PF>> is highly annoying. (I know I can set the reply in the address book, but PF>> not all senders are there, and setting folder-wise reply can be PF>> cumbersome). G> Can't you filter them to an other folder then the common folder? But they arrive to different accounts (see the question about filtering to same folder from different accounts), so they should go in a common folder (?). G> You will have to make a decision whether to reply using the addressbook G> or a folder template. This could be a case were I would use a Folder G> template altough you should be very carefull when you have active folder G> templates. G> First filter all these emails you want to reply to using your account to G> a separate folder and then set the account with the %account macro. AFAIK, this still sets the Reply-To address to the mailto:-address? Of course I could set that in the template, too. G> Hope this helped. It did. [I _really_ hate this Bat-editor]. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Århus C, Denmark Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB Hangs on Fetch
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote... > Hi all - > I have been migrating my old NT4 system to a new machine > with Win2000Pro SP2, and having some problems with TB I > can't figure out. > I installed TB v1.51 to the new Win2kPro system, and > imported my mailboxes. This seemed to go just fine, except > that on loading, I get a series of error messages: > Can not access directory I:\thebat > Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail > Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail\Lynn > and so on .. these refer to the locations the mailboxes > were imported from, not to the current locations. >From an uneducated guess... that'd be your problem. It'd appear TB! is trying to read the old files which may not be there any more. So when it tries to fetch, it cannot drop the mail into folders it cannot see/write to. Which might be what is causing the hang. > I OK them all, but on fetch TB hangs the connect after > fetching a message, or sometimes a few messages, and > that's that until I reboot. It hangs the whole connect, > the browsers don't browse, either, past the first 25% or > so of any page loaded. A reboot often (but not always .. > sometimes it takes several reboots) fixes this. > Some background here .. I'm running Wingate 4.5 as a > proxy. Been running WG several years with no problems. > Have one other W2kPro (SP 2) system on the network running > TB 1.51, no problems, still have an NT4 (SP 6a) system up, > running TB 1.51, no problems, and now one NT4 (SP 6a) system > running TB 1.61, no problems. It's a peer-to-peer system, > the file server/gateway machine is running W2kPro (SP 2). I know this is not related, but we had a hell of a time trying to get Wingate to run right on Win2k, with VPN setup ;) I cannot see wingate, or Win2k being the cause of the problem... I'd probably put it down to bad paths. > So far I haven't had any problems sending mail, even when > the fetch is hung. I wouldn't have thought sending would be an issue... it probably only attempts to store the sent message once, and if it cannot write it, it doesn't care. > Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous > issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and > purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) > and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's > 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing > the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix > for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the > program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will > that work? I am not sure on that one. You may want to check the paths set in your program (and/or registry), and if they are incorrect, change them to the correct location. As for the compress/purge not working... probably the same reason for the fetch hanging... (see my top theory). > Anybody got any clues about this? > TIA, > Lynn Hope this gives you some kind of an idea. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug? -- 1.60 Inbox-Known Deletion Causes Filtering Error
Hi, I think the old bug-reporting changed, but I can't find or remember where it goes now, so herewith my findings... Just upgraded to 1.60h, running NT4. I found I couldn't move the "Inbox - Known" folder into a sub-folder, and it's not a feature I want right now. The filter is NOT marked as active anyway. So, I deleted the "Inbox - Known" folder. Ever since, *all* my incoming mail is filtered into a folder that is the target of *one* of my rules. It doesn't matter whether the incoming mail should arrive in my Inbox, or whether it should be filtered by one of my filters -- it's *all* transferred to the single destination. Any ideas? -- Best regards, James. Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TB Hangs on Fetch
Hi all - I have been migrating my old NT4 system to a new machine with Win2000Pro SP2, and having some problems with TB I can't figure out. I installed TB v1.51 to the new Win2kPro system, and imported my mailboxes. This seemed to go just fine, except that on loading, I get a series of error messages: Can not access directory I:\thebat Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail Can not access directory I:\thebat\mail\Lynn and so on .. these refer to the locations the mailboxes were imported from, not to the current locations. I OK them all, but on fetch TB hangs the connect after fetching a message, or sometimes a few messages, and that's that until I reboot. It hangs the whole connect, the browsers don't browse, either, past the first 25% or so of any page loaded. A reboot often (but not always .. sometimes it takes several reboots) fixes this. At any rate, after a successful reboot I went to the RitLab site to find some support and discovered there was a new release, so I dl'ed that and installed it. Same problems, except that now it seems to take more reboots to get a successful connect, and sometimes it appears to be fixed but only gets about half the mail on the server before hanging again. Some background here .. I'm running Wingate 4.5 as a proxy. Been running WG several years with no problems. Have one other W2kPro (SP 2) system on the network running TB 1.51, no problems, still have an NT4 (SP 6a) system up, running TB 1.51, no problems, and now one NT4 (SP 6a) system running TB 1.61, no problems. It's a peer-to-peer system, the file server/gateway machine is running W2kPro (SP 2). So far I haven't had any problems sending mail, even when the fetch is hung. Also, and this may or may not be related to the previous issues, I can't get it to compress and/or compress and purge the trash folder. It hangs (program not responding) and sometimes returns an 'out of memory' error .. there's 512 Meg of RAM on the system, and Windows is not managing the virtual memory. I was thinking that the quick fix for this might be to delete the folder and hope that the program would regenerate it on the next start up, but will that work? Anybody got any clues about this? TIA, Lynn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.sites.onlinemac.com/hawthorne/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, @03 May 2002, 18:32:42 +0200 (17:32 UK time) Dierk Haasis wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To do this you have to turn off the account's "Combined delivery" >> transport option and use the filter option to queue generated >> messages in the Outbox. > Don't forget the "hourglass" button (+). With it the message > gets expressly left in the Outbox to edit later. This doesn't apply to auto-replies created by a filter - the question being answered... - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80s/XOeQkq5KdzaARAkK5AJ93v3bXIasVu4py+L9XG1SBSTe3QwCfadm9 ojawXrf7I7PhT1YsXXheqGM= =Vh0y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Want to view the text version of a multipart message
It did work when I send directly from the source, then receive via TB. I was initially forwarding from Outlook to TB, but that didn't work. The text formatted version appears as the body with the HTML version as a tab. Thanks for the help. Brandon Friday, May 3, 2002, 2:19:02 AM, GL> On 03 May 2002, 06:15, Brandon Hartness wrote: >> I create multipart text/html newsletters for a couple of e-commerce >> companies and want to use TB to view the text version of the >> newsletter rather than the html version. GL> ~~~ GL> Whenever I receive a multipart message in TB, the preview pane is GL> split in two. The right part shows the HTML by default with GL> placeholders for off-page images and stuff. The left part shows an GL> attachment (typically called message.htm). At the bottom the right GL> part of the preview pane are two or more tabs. Each of these lets you GL> view one part of the multipart message, with one of these tabs being GL> for the plain-text version. GL> HTH, Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote... > Hello Jonathan! > On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 4:34:27 PM you wrote: >> LOL... ps... I just did that... sorry ;) I can understand your >> comments though :) > You want to know the ironic part of Marck's statement? > I have yet to say the one instance where the one talking about "me > never" will not inevitably be afflicted within days - usually less > than a week. > Let's wait for you ... ;-) Knowing the way my luck has been running the last month, It'll happen in about... 5 mins or so ;) It's been running fine for about a year and a bit okay... so something is about to pop ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
separate Inbox-Known for each address book
I've split my address book into two - work folks and personal folks. Can I make an "Inbox - Known" rule for each address book? Thanks -John Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Anti-Virus
Thursday, May 02, 2002, 8:02:36 PM, Melissa wrote: >> Using The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows 98 MR> Why are you still using such an old build? The easy answer is that it's the last one about which I got an official notification with a link to a download site. More seriously, I've been so confused by the discussions here about later versions that I've stuck with what (usually) works. If I did move to a later one, 1. just which should I use (on my old Pentium II computer with W98 first edition), 2. where should I download it from, and 3. can I safely just over write? Still Using The Bat! v1.53bis on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
Hello Jonathan! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 4:34:27 PM you wrote: > LOL... ps... I just did that... sorry ;) I can understand your > comments though :) You want to know the ironic part of Marck's statement? I have yet to say the one instance where the one talking about "me never" will not inevitably be afflicted within days - usually less than a week. Let's wait for you ... ;-) -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Military Intelligence is a contradiction in terms. Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Hello Marck! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 5:17:51 PM you wrote: > To do this you have to turn off the account's "Combined delivery" > transport option and use the filter option to queue generated messages > in the Outbox. Don't forget the "hourglass" button (+). With it the message gets expressly left in the Outbox to edit later. The operative here is "left", even if you now send messages, the hourglassed (nee parked) one stays in the Outbox. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer sich nicht verbiegen läßt, zerbricht! (Aleks Papst) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost tooltips,
Hello pacome, On Fri, 3 May 2002 17:35:23 +0200GMT (3-5-02, 17:35 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: p> I saw tooltips in TB just once and since this special day never saw p> them again... p> Is this related only to Windows or, Yes. p> is TB in any way implicated in the disappearing ? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick Template problem...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @03 May 2002, 11:50:45 -0400 (16:50 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! MDP>> Yes. Get rid of all and any folder templates! > Oops, I should have mentioned that my 'Perl' template is not a > folder template. Okay - but it's the kind of thing that only usually happens when you've got a folder reply template butting in. > Another question... How do I tell if I have folder templates? I did > a right click | Properties on a number of my folders, and checked > the 'Template' tab. That's how you do it. > The are all the same, and look like this: > %TOFName, > %Cursor I'll wager that's your account default template... mind you, that's just the "New message" template. How about the reply one? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80rk7OeQkq5KdzaARArrCAJ4pkgi5eLeVKFmvp4msUGpS1szmHwCghfhh i+l8ZKcnpbXcmDxUpKbSKEo= =ZBal -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects-now editor commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:50 AM, you wrote: >> 1. when in a reply and creating text I'll end a sentence, hit enter, >> hit TAB to start a new paragraph. Every line after that is now >> indented the same as the first tab. How can I stop that or what am I >> doing wrong ? MDP> Turn off "Smart tabs". that would be OPTIONS-EDITOR PREFERENCES-Smart-tabs, thanks! >> 2. SOMETIMES ( I can't remember how right now)when I reply to a >> message, I highlight text and hit delete, the text goes away and the >> slider bar disappears. It looks like I am in an editor session with >> no text. Yet when I use the arrow keys to scroll up, the rest of the >> text now appears. Does that make any sense ? MDP> Yes - this is a long-term outstanding bug in the editor. I just hit MDP> Ctrl-Home when it happens. the old CTRL-home trick, why didn't I think of that! thanks for verifying that I'm not going crazy ( today anyway) ! Paul / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNK7VT3ZlJQqDEkFEQJGDgCg7f3JrMI0KpwblefLjM+J2loUkDYAoMeq 7P/B9zUtcFHKfpj7/fzKgcbg =GPta -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects-now editor commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @03 May 2002, 11:45:27 -0400 (16:45 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1. when in a reply and creating text I'll end a sentence, hit enter, > hit TAB to start a new paragraph. Every line after that is now > indented the same as the first tab. How can I stop that or what am I > doing wrong ? Turn off "Smart tabs". > 2. SOMETIMES ( I can't remember how right now)when I reply to a > message, I highlight text and hit delete, the text goes away and the > slider bar disappears. It looks like I am in an editor session with > no text. Yet when I use the arrow keys to scroll up, the rest of the > text now appears. Does that make any sense ? Yes - this is a long-term outstanding bug in the editor. I just hit Ctrl-Home when it happens. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80rHGOeQkq5KdzaARAiewAJ9Bq6wfPZkfotYuVlV4/r/n1/0+6ACgpOsQ PLTkNqnSCKWzvxQosly0goc= =mqjV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The bat is a virus. goodbye
Hello Michael L. Wilson, Ok, if your folders are missing presumably you know some of their names... Why not just do a simple search for a few of them to see where they are and whats in them... Once you know where they are and they arent all zapped, getting the bat to realise its looking in the wrong place (likely a user error!!), it can be fixed... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60i mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects-now editor commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, May 3, 2002, 11:17 AM, you wrote: Hi Marck, I haven't gotten used to the editor yet myself (read I was a UNIX VI user for 15 years). I have 2 problems that bug me, maybe you can help. 1. when in a reply and creating text I'll end a sentence, hit enter, hit TAB to start a new paragraph. Every line after that is now indented the same as the first tab. How can I stop that or what am I doing wrong ? 2. SOMETIMES ( I can't remember how right now)when I reply to a message, I highlight text and hit delete, the text goes away and the slider bar disappears. It looks like I am in an editor session with no text. Yet when I use the arrow keys to scroll up, the rest of the text now appears. Does that make any sense ? thanks, Paul >> 2) Can I make the editor behave like a normal text editor (it is set >> on "stream", "autowrap", with or without "autoformat")? I am not >> convinced about the way the Bat editor works. I cannot find any >> tutorials on how to use it (the help file is somewhat lacking). >> Conversely, can I use an external editor? How? MDP> No and not yet. The editor in TB employs virtual space and allows MDP> columns and indenting in a way not many others do. Some never get used MDP> to it. Those that do won't hear a word said against it :-). / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNKwmz3ZlJQqDEkFEQJtzwCfe1Eo5uyZEPQR1XU54s09UzDap90An37M Gy+lpcSOAqVEn4RuZV+eJ48A =axg5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick Template problem...?
Hey Marck, My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60d/iKey1000) to write the following on Friday, May 3, 2002 at 9:15:10 AM. MDP> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MDP> Hi Tim, MDP> @03 May 2002, 08:59:49 -0400 (13:59 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in MDP> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> This is not the first time I have inadvertently sent to that list >> (and the problem is only with that list). >> Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! MDP> Yes. Get rid of all and any folder templates! Oops, I should have mentioned that my 'Perl' template is not a folder template. Another question... How do I tell if I have folder templates? I did a right click | Properties on a number of my folders, and checked the 'Template' tab. The are all the same, and look like this: %TOFName, %Cursor -- %FromAddr Using The Bat! eMail v%TheBatVersion %WindowsPlatformName %WindowsMajorVersion.%WindowsMinorVersion.%WindowsBuildNumber (%WindowsCsdVersion) %Cookies="D:\http\OneLiners.txt" Because of how the %Cookies line looks I am led to believe that this is filled in from somewhere. I just recently got a new ThinkPad and put the OneLiners.txt file on D, old ThinkPad had it in My Documents on C. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUA = TB! v1.60h (www.RitLabs.com/The_Bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What else can you do at 3:00 am? Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
lost tooltips,
Le vendredi 3 mai 2002, à 17:34 Hello, Hi everyone, I saw tooltips in TB just once and since this special day never saw them again... I'm used to these intermittent tooltips with Windows but the problem appears much more rarely and I usually manage to get them back. Is this related only to Windows or, is TB in any way implicated in the disappearing ? Thanks if you can help Greetings, Pacôme -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 French version Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @03 May 2002, 13:45:55 +0200 (12:45 UK time) Peter Fjelsten wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1) Can I make it so all threads are expanded per default No. You have to press Ctrl-NumPad* to open all threads. They do not stay open. > 2) Can I make the editor behave like a normal text editor (it is set > on "stream", "autowrap", with or without "autoformat")? I am not > convinced about the way the Bat editor works. I cannot find any > tutorials on how to use it (the help file is somewhat lacking). > Conversely, can I use an external editor? How? No and not yet. The editor in TB employs virtual space and allows columns and indenting in a way not many others do. Some never get used to it. Those that do won't hear a word said against it :-). > 3) Can I not make "global" filtering? My friends write to me at > several addresses and I would like to filter them all to the same > common folder (inbound and outbound). It's a pain to set the same > filters on 5 accounts (times 2 for outgoing messages, too). I know I > can copy the filters via Copy/Paste. This was discussed earlier in the week. By using a simple "redirect" filter and local delivery, you can have these messages dealt with by a single account. Alternatively you can use an external funnelling product like Hamster to collect your mails into a single source for TB to download them from. > 4) I also have some e-mails I want to auto-reply to, _without_ > sending them immediately, just leave them in the outbox for later > editing. How can I do this using a filter? I cannot get the > Auto-reply or Reading confirmation to work. They send immediately. I > want the message "parked". To do this you have to turn off the account's "Combined delivery" transport option and use the filter option to queue generated messages in the Outbox. > 5) I'd _really_ like a "next/previous unread message in _any_ > folder" keyboard shortcut. I find it very annoying that this cannot > be done as of now (?). Ctrl-] (Ctrl-[ for previous) Personally I use the ticker virtual folder, which contains all unread messages. See http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html for a full list of keyboard shortcuts. > 6) Can anybody help me with a Reg Exp? I would like to extract the > some stuff from a received mail posted by a formmail and use that > for replies. I'd like to extract a mail address and put it into the > recipient field. The original mail (the posted form looks like > this): mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and the stuff in that line should go in > the To:-field. %TO=''%TO='%REGEXPTEXT="(?Uis).*\nmail:\s(.*\@.*)\s"' > 7) Is there a keyboard shortcut for putting the focus on the preview > pane, the message list, the message (TAB goes through all the links > on the message so a lot of TABbing is needed sometimes. No, there isn't. > 8) Can I make TheBat reply using the account the mail was sent to? > In common folders, my default mailto:-account is used for all > replies. This is highly annoying. (I know I can set the reply in the > address book, but not all senders are there, and setting folder-wise > reply can be cumbersome). The status line at the bottom of the edit window includes the account name. Right click on it to select a different one. > 9) My legacy mail from Eudora converts OK, but not the mail I have > sent from Eudora (The content type header is missing) so I get a lot > of -coding due to that. Mailbag Assistant is able to display > that mail properly but when I export as a Unix mailbox, the coding > view comes back. Has anybody had luck with getting the messages sent > _from_ Eudora to exported OK? ,- [ Solution from another ex-Eudora user ] | --- | Converting Eudora Mailboxes - a Solution: | --- | At least this is the best way I have found for converting E to TB and | stripping the HTML tags at the same time. | | I am using Mailbag Assistant as the intermediate step: | New version v3.0 (just released: April 16, 2002) | http://www.fookes.com/mailbag/info.htm | | MA now includes exporting to generic mbx or eml files. | Though using the provided templates did not quite do the trick. | The TXT export strips HTML but also removes most of the headers. | The MBX/EML exports either doesn't work for TB or leaves the HTML tags | etc. | | However you can "assemble" your own export templates: | (It's a relative no brainer) | | I have done one which: | Strips the HTML tags. | Keeps the dates intact (except the outgoing Created date). | Includes as the "Subject" any changed or added Subjects (to mail in) | in Eudora. | Includes the name of any attachments in the msg body (even if the | actual attachment was deleted before the conversion). `- - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGI
Re: OpenPGP using PGP keyring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marcus, On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 05:10:55 AM -0700, you wrote: > Most of my friends, if not all, use PGP 7.0.3. Will there be any > problems communicating with them if I switch to PGP 6.5.8ckt? In other > words, does PGP 7.0.3 use anything that 6.5.8ckt can't handle? In short... no. :o) Nick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 08 iQA/AwUBPNKqf9rrL7k7yn3SEQKVQACgycaOHG95Ab4GTwbeMsLyep01rtsAn0Xb s0+qwB67C6gsUzQs0+XD9MYV =SoVb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
Dear Paul, --->>> Paul Cartwright / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 16:17:09 mail folder to a sub-mail folder? EC>> Press simultanious 'CTRL + ALT' and HOLD the Keys and klick with EC>> left button on your mouse HOLD it DOWN and move the folder! > or click on folder B and right-click and select Move-In. Ah, you never stop learning :-) -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54 Beta/42 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... > Hi Miguel, >> Try using the %TO and %ACCOUNT macros in your folder template(s). > DON'T! > Put tbudl into your address book and put the macros in the address > book template. Okay... that is fine for this mailing list... but it doesn't work for the example I set where I have people (not always in my addy book) that email me at one of the aliases. > Use of %TO in any folder templates is a very dangerous practice and > should be done only in emergency - in situations where address book > templates just can't be used: I use them all the time for numerous lists I have that I don't have the email address stored in my address book, and I cannot be bothered to type (TB! saves me a bit of work ;)). I've not seen any problems, and in some situations such as one of the lists I'm on, I have to CC the list as well as reply directly to the person... so I have a %CC in the REPLY option... hitting Reply-All isn't very useful because I then have to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is a pain every time. > > I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named "Folder Templates". In > 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They > are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. Only two of the lists I am on don't set reply-to fields... and there is a reason for it... but a majority of the emails are supposed to be sent to the list, and the original sender... so I use %CC or %TO fields. It just makes it easier for me, I can simply click on the folder of the list I want to send to, hit the New button, and it sets the formatting, aliases/identity, who it is for, etc etc. This is one of the features I love about TB! It saves me a lot of work... and I've not had an issue with it before. > There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that > can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. > There are "dangers" in using Folder Templates that are not there when > you use AB templates. > The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in > templates which use the "%TO=" macro. If, at the instant you start a > new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message > gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto > without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to > excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail. I can understand that, but most of the time, I can tell straight away by the TO field, or the signature at the bottom ;) > BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct > %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" without a "%TO=''" before it. So any > pre-existing addresses are retained. I use the second in all my templates. > Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to > something I've said with comments like "'danger' is a bit harsh" or > "I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for > me". LOL... ps... I just did that... sorry ;) I can understand your comments though :) > Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this > message yet again. > It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw. > The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make > sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended. > With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind. > Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are "a bit trickier". > Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you > have to click to the right of the new message button and select the > list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is* > a favourite in the address book). But couldn't you type in the wrong email address as well? I do that more often than clicking on the wrong folder. Actually that is more a problem of my typing... I have quite a few people (let alone lists) in my address book... sometimes if I start to type an email address in, it auto-completes, and I don't read the rest of it... Unfortunately I have about 4 people that start with the same first name... and it always gets the wrong one. > - -- > Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus (WAS: The bat is a virus. goodbye)
On Friday, May 03, 2002, Paul Cartwright wrote... > On Thursday, May 2, 2002, 11:28 PM, you wrote: >>> I had this happen to me more than once and never figured out QHY. SO >>> how do you get rid of the history >>> >>> / Paul >>> JA>> Technically I didn't... I Just stopped TB! from using the > history/recent JA>> items list when composing... As soon as I did that, it stopped closing JA>> itself. The odd thing was, it was resetting itself with all versions, > so JA>> I knew it must have been data files somehow. > so I went to Preferences-System and changed Autocomplete to JUST use > addressbooks. I'll give it a try, THANKS ! > I forget, was this ever posted as a bug ?? > / Paul Personally I wouldn't have put it down to a bug at my end... I'm running XP, it does weird things most of the time ;) But it might be worth a look into. I've not tried turning it back on, or tracking down the file to see if I can find the possible cause yet... might do that today if I get 30 seconds or so ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A lot of questions on various subjects
Hi Peter, I will just anwser the ones I know for sure :-) ON Friday, May 3, 2002, 1:45:55 PM, you wrote: PF> List, PF> 3) Can I not make "global" filtering? My friends write to me at several PF> addresses and I would like to filter them all to the same common folder PF> (inbound and outbound). It's a pain to set the same filters on 5 PF> accounts (times 2 for outgoing messages, too). I know I can copy the PF> filters via Copy/Paste. You will have to have the same filter in all your accounts but it is only 1 filter. What you do is filter against presence in the addressbook. Filter on "@" present Yes Sender. Then go to the Advance Tab and check "address must be listed in the addressbook" Select a group and you're done. Now copy five times to In and Out filter ;-) PF> 4) I also have some e-mails I want to auto-reply to, _without_ sending PF> them immediately, just leave them in the outbox for later editing. How PF> can I do this using a filter? I cannot get the Auto-reply or Reading PF> confirmation to work. They send immediately. I want the message PF> "parked". Select as action move to outbox and not send. Also make sure you don't have auto send activated or combined send & receive. Otherwise they will still be send. Maybe you should consider moving them to a seperate folder before you decided to send them. You can send the mail from this folder by selecting the email and moveing them to the outbox. PF> 5) I'd _really_ like a "next/previous unread message in _any_ folder" PF> keyboard shortcut. I find it very annoying that this cannot be done as PF> of now (?). Wel it can. What I do is click on an unread msg envelope while holding the Alt key. This works as a quick filter. You can use this to filter on Sender/recipient/subject/etc. PF> 8) Can I make TheBat reply using the account the mail was sent to? In PF> common folders, my default mailto:-account is used for all replies. This PF> is highly annoying. (I know I can set the reply in the address book, but PF> not all senders are there, and setting folder-wise reply can be PF> cumbersome). Can't you filter them to an other folder then the common folder? You will have to make a decision whether to reply using the addressbook or a folder template. This could be a case were I would use a Folder template altough you should be very carefull when you have active folder templates. First filter all these emails you want to reply to using your account to a separate folder and then set the account with the %account macro. Hope this helped. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, May 3, 2002, 9:29 AM, you wrote: EC> Dear Mark, EC> --->>> Mark Knipfer / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 15:20:59 EC> mail folder to a sub-mail folder? >> Current folders: >> folder-a >> folder-b >> folder-c >> Want to do this: >> folder-a >> folder-b >> folder-c EC> Point to 'folder-b' on OLD position EC> Press simultanious 'CTRL + ALT' and HOLD the Keys and klick with left EC> button on your mouse HOLD it DOWN and move the folder! or click on folder B and right-click and select Move-In. / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNKb7T3ZlJQqDEkFEQJQvwCdEBSng6gAWMe6QgrPiTao7TatOJAAoOz1 4IIlfjVdkknf8lzfM5iw1WyF =pYVM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @03 May 2002, 09:20:59 -0400 (14:20 UK time) Mark Knipfer wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Want to do this: > folder-a > folder-b > folder-c One of three ways: 1) Ctrl-Alt drag 2) Right click, "Move in" 3) Ctrl-Shift-RightArrow. ... while clicked/focused on folder b. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80pNqOeQkq5KdzaARAqlJAJ4xEfS0xynRijqgNMgKZit9G8pdbACeO8BV ENKynftDJmB+11b5lSe5zYA= =5XYt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
On Friday, May 3, 2002, 9:29:14 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote: EC> --->>> Mark Knipfer / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 15:20:59 EC> mail folder to a sub-mail folder? >> Current folders: >> folder-a >> folder-b >> folder-c >> Want to do this: >> folder-a >> folder-b >> folder-c EC> Point to 'folder-b' on OLD position EC> Press simultanious 'CTRL + ALT' and HOLD the Keys and klick with EC> left button on your mouse HOLD it DOWN and move the folder! Thank you. This worked! -- Using The Bat! v1.60i OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
Dear Mark, --->>> Mark Knipfer / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 15:20:59 mail folder to a sub-mail folder? > Current folders: > folder-a > folder-b > folder-c > Want to do this: > folder-a > folder-b > folder-c Point to 'folder-b' on OLD position Press simultanious 'CTRL + ALT' and HOLD the Keys and klick with left button on your mouse HOLD it DOWN and move the folder! -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54 Beta/42 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus (WAS: The bat is a virus. goodbye)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, May 2, 2002, 11:28 PM, you wrote: >> I had this happen to me more than once and never figured out QHY. SO >> how do you get rid of the history >> >> / Paul >> JA> Technically I didn't... I Just stopped TB! from using the history/recent JA> items list when composing... As soon as I did that, it stopped closing JA> itself. The odd thing was, it was resetting itself with all versions, so JA> I knew it must have been data files somehow. so I went to Preferences-System and changed Autocomplete to JUST use addressbooks. I'll give it a try, THANKS ! I forget, was this ever posted as a bug ?? / Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPNKPTz3ZlJQqDEkFEQJZ3gCeK6GJebZspLNZlrgB5XrCgD+40f8AoIjD cXbFWCsHlbF8HiSQxEmszhIN =IeOO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick Template problem...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, @03 May 2002, 08:59:49 -0400 (13:59 UK time) Tim Musson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This is not the first time I have inadvertently sent to that list > (and the problem is only with that list). > Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! Yes. Get rid of all and any folder templates! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80o1gOeQkq5KdzaARAo5zAJ0eweXglOGgJCD592d7Pr6DwyxSewCgiKcf sPvDb0g2xOfyi6RXIuhPiUs= =791B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail folder to a sub-mail folder?
How do I move a mail folder into another mail folder to create a sub mail folder? Current folders: folder-a folder-b folder-c Want to do this: folder-a folder-b folder-c -- Using The Bat! v1.60i OS: Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bug?
>>> When redirecting messages with filter: - local delivery on - Send >>> generated messages: "Queue in Outbox" the delivery skips messages. > It's better first to get the issues thrashed out either here or on > TBBETA before jumping in with a firm bug report. Can anyone confirm this bug? I checked the buglist but there is no entry of this bug? yet. Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: subscribe to folder in IMAP4?
Hello Adam, On Thursday, May 2, 2002 at 17:51:17 -0400 (EDT), you wrote concerning 'subscribe to folder in IMAP4?': ... >> you go to the Mailbox controller? And what happens when you add >> mailboxes that where previously there? > How do you do that? Have a look at the following picture: http://www.angelfire.com/amiga/dzuijlek/Pics/MailboxController.png In the Mailbox controller just click on Action / New mailbox... And then subscribe to that mailbox by pressing Action / Subscribe. -- Best regards, David ** THE- 4.77MHz 8088 simulator: Microsoft Windows ** [TB! 1.60i] [Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick Template problem...?
Hey TBUDL, I seem to be having an odd problem with a QT I think... It is called perl, and consists of the following: %TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"%CC="" The Problem: I got a message from my father, and did a reply to all. Next I checked the addresses. dad was in the To: field and a bunch of others was in the CC: field. I deleted all but one from CC, and moved him to To: and hit Ok (then I went back in and checked!). Sent the message. Now as I am checking my Perl list folder, there is my message! Looking at the headers, it has [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the CC: field! Checking my sent folder shows the same addressees. This is not the first time I have inadvertently sent to that list (and the problem is only with that list). Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60h Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) GUYS: No shirt, no service. GALS: No shirt, no charge. Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
S/MIME standards was: Re: Anti-Virus
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On Fri, 3 May 2002, at 05:51:47 -0500 Michael wrote, or scribbled:
M>> Btw, the term "Microsoft anything-dealing-with-privacy-security"
M>> sounds pretty weird, nein? Do you folks really think it is a good idea
M>> making Bat involved with a such things?
MD> That was the point of one of my earlier messages.
You're right. I saw this letter later.
MD> The answer is no. :)
So, we have already a "folks" having all two members. ;-)
MR>>> I still don't know why the two implementations should be
MR>>> incompatible, but they are. I can S/MIME sign using either one,
MD> They weren't. This is a bug that has been reported.
Hm, no, it refers to "normal" S/MIME implementation/standard and MS'
a new "local" "standard" they "devised" to make things less usable, as
usual, and by this to divide Internet "community" again. So this is
not a bag, this is just a mess with standards and "standards".
Btw, "MR>>>" refers to Melissa's comment. She explained this
standards problem in Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> just fine and clear, and we
have no answer yet.
Btw2, I see your S/MIME signature as valid here, as usual, so I
suppose it is a "normal" standard S/MIME, not MS' CrippleAPI.
Mandara
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Re[2]: OpenPGP using PGP keyring
On Thursday, May 2, 2002, 18:57, Nick Andriash wrote: > Unfortunately RITLabs have not developed a PGP Plugin for the 7.x > versions. If you want to make use of TB's newest PGP6.5.8 Plugin... > just released today as a matter of fact... you will have to download > PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 08Beta2. In many respects, PGP 6.5.8ckt will > offer more than PGP 7.0.3 in reference to functionality and features > so you may well want to at least try it. Most of my friends, if not all, use PGP 7.0.3. Will there be any problems communicating with them if I switch to PGP 6.5.8ckt? In other words, does PGP 7.0.3 use anything that 6.5.8ckt can't handle? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60g on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.txt Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A lot of questions on various subjects
List, I have found The Bat (1.60c), coming from Eudora. It looks good. I have a lot of e-mail accounts, so some questions: 1) Can I make it so all threads are expanded per default 2) Can I make the editor behave like a normal text editor (it is set on "stream", "autowrap", with or without "autoformat")? I am not convinced about the way the Bat editor works. I cannot find any tutorials on how to use it (the help file is somewhat lacking). Conversely, can I use an external editor? How? 3) Can I not make "global" filtering? My friends write to me at several addresses and I would like to filter them all to the same common folder (inbound and outbound). It's a pain to set the same filters on 5 accounts (times 2 for outgoing messages, too). I know I can copy the filters via Copy/Paste. 4) I also have some e-mails I want to auto-reply to, _without_ sending them immediately, just leave them in the outbox for later editing. How can I do this using a filter? I cannot get the Auto-reply or Reading confirmation to work. They send immediately. I want the message "parked". 5) I'd _really_ like a "next/previous unread message in _any_ folder" keyboard shortcut. I find it very annoying that this cannot be done as of now (?). 6) Can anybody help me with a Reg Exp? I would like to extract the some stuff from a received mail posted by a formmail and use that for replies. I'd like to extract a mail address and put it into the recipient field. The original mail (the posted form looks like this): mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and the stuff in that line should go in the To:-field. 7) Is there a keyboard shortcut for putting the focus on the preview pane, the message list, the message (TAB goes through all the links on the message so a lot of TABbing is needed sometimes. 8) Can I make TheBat reply using the account the mail was sent to? In common folders, my default mailto:-account is used for all replies. This is highly annoying. (I know I can set the reply in the address book, but not all senders are there, and setting folder-wise reply can be cumbersome). 9) My legacy mail from Eudora converts OK, but not the mail I have sent from Eudora (The content type header is missing) so I get a lot of -coding due to that. Mailbag Assistant is able to display that mail properly but when I export as a Unix mailbox, the coding view comes back. Has anybody had luck with getting the messages sent _from_ Eudora to exported OK? TIA, and sorry for the many questions. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @03 May 2002, 11:34:26 +0200 (10:34 UK time) Miguel A. Urech wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I missed a point on this email... or at least it didn't come out >> very clearly anyway... the folder had the identity set to what was >> subbed to this list (ie Jonathan Angliss >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>). > Try using the %TO and %ACCOUNT macros in your folder template(s). DON'T! Put tbudl into your address book and put the macros in the address book template. Use of %TO in any folder templates is a very dangerous practice and should be done only in emergency - in situations where address book templates just can't be used: I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named "Folder Templates". In 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are "dangers" in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in templates which use the "%TO=" macro. If, at the instant you start a new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail. BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" without a "%TO=''" before it. So any pre-existing addresses are retained. Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to something I've said with comments like "'danger' is a bit harsh" or "I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for me". Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this message yet again. It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw. The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended. With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind. Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are "a bit trickier". Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you have to click to the right of the new message button and select the list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is* a favourite in the address book). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator SB! v1.60d/iKey1000-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQE80nZIOeQkq5KdzaARAinsAKCuyvwI++zpkuo5RjjUgsuDTQmvNACgptob JcK/ex7XfFgbmXNzFU7DlVs= =4urP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anti-Virus
Thursday, May 2, 2002, 5:01:08 PM, Mandara scribbled: M> Btw, the term "Microsoft anything-dealing-with-privacy-security" M> sounds pretty weird, nein? Do you folks really think it is a good idea M> making Bat involved with a such things? That was the point of one of my earlier messages. The answer is no. :) MR>> I still don't know why the two implementations should be MR>> incompatible, but they are. I can S/MIME sign using either one, They weren't. This is a bug that has been reported. Mike smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: Working with thread view
> While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and > on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.) Yes, I see it now. Great. >> Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark >> (like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to >> threads that you are not interested in. > No, there isn't. And you are not the only one wishing there was that > possibility. > I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind > of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here > when I do and if it works. Looking forward to it. Best regards, Mitja Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Working with thread view
Dear Miguel, --->>> Miguel A. Urech / Freitag, 03.05.2002, 12:05:07 Working with thread view > While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and > on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.) Thanks Miguel - this is a good tip about working on thread base. -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54 Beta/42 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving Folders about
Hello Jonathan, > I missed a point on this email... or at least it didn't come out very > clearly anyway... the folder had the identity set to what was subbed to > this list (ie Jonathan Angliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>). Try using the %TO and %ACCOUNT macros in your folder template(s). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Working with thread view
Hello Mitja, > I am just begining to use thread view and have one question. Is there > a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first > message. How exactly are you using The Bat to read this list? While on the thread pane, right click on any message of a thread and on the context menu select "Thread/Park" (or Unpark, read, etc.) > Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark > (like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to > threads that you are not interested in. No, there isn't. And you are not the only one wishing there was that possibility. I have in mind something to more or less simulate this function (kind of an Ignore filter) but I haven't tested it yet. I will post it here when I do and if it works. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Working with thread view
Hi, I am just begining to use thread view and have one question. Is there a way to park or delete the whole thread and not just the first message. How exactly are you using The Bat to read this list? I have set it to thread view and wanted to park the messages I want to keep and delete the others. Or at least mark the messages read but I also cannot do it without expanding all messages. Also is there a way to mark a thread with a sort of an ignore mark (like in the NewsAgent)? So you skip the new messages that belong to threads that you are not interested in. Thank you, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Dragging Folders and misc.
Thursday, May 02, 2002, Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mocha9mail [M] wrote: > ... M>> I have a somewhat related question. When I deleted a message from M>> the Common Inbox - Known, I found that the program created a Common M>> Trash folder at the bottom of the Account list. Can I make that M>> Common Trash folder to be a sub-folder under Inbox - Known? > Yes you can. M>> If yes, how? > By using the Shift+Ctrl+right arrow key or drag and drop on the > proposed parent folder while holding down the CTRL+Alt keys. I did that -- I made the Common Trash folder a sub-folder of the Common Inbox-Known folder. I also have 2 other sub-folders (for a total of 3 sub-folders). However, I found that when I delete messages from the Inbox-Known or the other 2 sub-folders, the Program created a new Common Trash folder. I want the deleted messages from the Common Inbox-Known folder (and the sub-folders) to go to the Trash sub-folder. How do I do that? Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.60c Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 08
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Imad has released Build 08 of PGP 6.5.8ckt. Here is the relevant portion of the ReadMe File... and it will of course be of particular interest to TB Users: See item #16. = 1) Added the tiger 192 hash algorithm. 2) Updated the SHA2 hash algorithm. 3) Fixes to enable support for large clipboard where the contents has no end of line characters. 4) Fixes to enable handling of detached signatures where the contents of the detached signature file contains leading non PGP blocks data. 5) Verification blocks for encrypted only messages. 6) Cipher display in the verification block. 7) there are three distinct verification block header/footer as follows:- BEGIN/END PGP DECRYPTED/VERIFIED MESSAGE (encrypted/signed) BEGIN/END PGP DECRYPTED MESSAGE (encrypted only) BEGIN/END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE (signed only) 8) Omit version line feature, this may be accessed by entering a NULL string in the "Version String Preference" combo in the "Email" tab of the PGP preferences dialog. 9) Enabled editing in the password dialogs, this may be toggled by ticking "Allow Cut & Paste" tick box in the password dialogs. I am not too fond of this feature, however, it's there if that is what you want to do. 10) Updated key servers. 11) The system fixed font is now used for display of the decrypted/verified message in the PGP text viewer. 12) Fix for PGP 7.x generated RSA v4 keys which used v3 format checksums. 13) Changed the order of default preferred ciphers as follows:- AES256, Twofish256, AES192, 3DES, AES128, CAST5, IDEA, BLOWFISH. 14) Numerous typo and other misceleneous fixes. 15) Compiled with the July 2000 MS SDK so that the build will run on the windows 95 OS. 16) The Bat plugin is now bundled with this build. Make sure you are running the Bat v1.6d or better. A Note about The Bat PGP plugin of this build:- When the PGP plugin is invoked, the followings is done: a) PGPlog will be used to give immediate feedback to the user about the status of the decrypted/verified message. b) the verification block(s) will be dumped to the clipboard, with the processed message(s) block(s) replaced by "", for more detailed analysis. c) If the plugin is called via "OpenPGP Decrypt", the processed message(s) and verification blocks are passed to The Bat. 17) Fixes to the installer. If you have build 07 installed, run "uninstall.exe" which should be in your PGP install directory to un-install it. "Add/Remove Program" may or may not work, this has now been fixed. Best Regards and happy encrypting Imad R. Faiad = - -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.28 iEYEARECAAYFAjzSRkIACgkQ2usvuTvKfdLfYgCfZzrT3I7hSNsHVzBjohlUAd0z ldcAn2L1xhg0eEL5FELXY6OrO0i0Cm5S =avM5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! can not be a Virus
Dear Michael, --->>> Michael L. Wilson / Thursday, 02.05.2002, 23:46:48 TB! can not be a Virus > I cannot comment on what you can find. From time to time over the > years, I just don;t post things because things are going well. I > have sent no less than 19 messages about this. But not after Nov. 11. 2001. I have joined the English TB!udl, TB!tech, TB!ot and TB!beta in that period and I'm over 1 year in the German speaking TB! lists. All msg are archived but I could not find any postings from you pertaining to this problem (see below). On TB!udl: -- Dec. 15. 21:48 Why does it make noise? Dec. 20. 21:30 Re:Spammers on the list? Dec. 20. 22:03 Re:Garbage filter(s) May 02. 05:02 The bat is a virus. goodbye On TB!beta: --- Dec. 20. 08:22 Re:1.54 Beta/17 Dec. 20. 08:22 Re:1.54 Beta/17 (diff. thread) Dec. 20. 08:44 Re:1.54 Beta/17 Dec. 28. 23:34 Re:Beta/21? Mar. 16. 02:02 Strange message Sorry Michael, I can't find your *several posting* on your (on this) particular problem. Should you have posted before Nov. 11. then your problem must not be so urgent as you did not follow up the last 6 month. > I can only assume that the problem with the bat is preventing mail > from being sent. Do you mean your TB! is preventing in sending your mails? >>> I love it. I use it all the time. >> just keep it ;-) > How can I keep an email program that must be setup from scratch > every time I use it? Are you willing to use a mail program that > takes 30 minutes of setup and recover every time you want to send > and read mail? Other people have given you some clue on how to setup an alternative that takes only 2 sec (export the RIT registry to a .reg file 60 sec., double it and all Registry Informations are back into the old place 2 sec.). This alternative is just fine until you found the real problem. >>> I even tried some beta releases with never a major problem. >> Then why you never posted your problem on TB!beta list? > I stopped using beta about 5 months ago, and decided to stick with > releases because my email is sacred. I never posted in the TBBeta > because I never had a problem with any beta product that was not > previously posted. I think your contradicting yourself in this point. eMail is sacred for many of us. I'm sure you followed the TB!beta list (as you posted on Dec. 2001 and March 2002 I can assume so) by reading about the status of development. There where always releases that where very stable. If you say you had never problems while using Betas so why you didn't stick to it? >>> I download 1.60h and the next day [...] >> Give us some Informations about your running System! > Windows XP Pro Well well, of what I could see in TB!beta list is that XP-users have more problems using TB! than say W2k users. I've kicked XP and went back to W2k/SP2 and never encounter any problems. Michael, please don't get me wrong. What nerves me in this thread - Marck wrote it too - is that you make it hard for us to help you. I tried in this posting to show that you may not have done all with endurance in finding your problem not to mention that you haven't setup any alternative. It's so easy to inculpate others - isn't it? Just for the end - I'm using TB! more than a Year. THe last 6 months I'm using *only* Betas. Never, never I lost *any* datas. The only thing I've ever lost where my Templates - but this was my own fault when reorganizing my Directory Structure. -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54 Beta/42 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All this effort for what?? Batted-out!!
Hello Jim! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 3:32:55 AM you wrote: > I don't see a "thread" option with a right click, Melissa. Am I > looking in the wrong place, or just too bleary-eyed tonight? Sure > seems like a neat shortcut. It's the eighths entry in the context menu for a message/thread - at least in "Browse messages" view, message tree. BTW, the keyboard shortcut is much quicker. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ich bin immer beleidigt, wenn andere nichts von mir erwarten. (D.A. Wien) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Want to view the text version of a multipart message
On 03 May 2002, 06:15, Brandon Hartness wrote: > I create multipart text/html newsletters for a couple of e-commerce > companies and want to use TB to view the text version of the > newsletter rather than the html version. ~~~ Whenever I receive a multipart message in TB, the preview pane is split in two. The right part shows the HTML by default with placeholders for off-page images and stuff. The left part shows an attachment (typically called message.htm). At the bottom the right part of the preview pane are two or more tabs. Each of these lets you view one part of the multipart message, with one of these tabs being for the plain-text version. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Winamp currently playing "Lighthouse Family - You're A Star" All I did was press this button and !£$!(&()%^"£%!£... Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Want to view the text version of a multipart message
Hello Brandon! On Friday, May 3, 2002 at 7:15:09 AM you wrote: > Anyway, question is, can I get TB to view the text portion, or do I > have to use Eudora (set to read offline). I am not sure if that will help, but have you tried to disable View HTML automatically? Otherwise there should be two tabs at the bottom of the message pane, one shows the PTV the other HTML. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60i on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I think for my part one half of manhood is mad - and the other not very sound. (Derek Leveret/Benjamin Smollett) Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
