Re: Checking on BayesIt

[Stuart Hemming]

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M3> Sort of.  The number you might want to look at is the one just above
M3> 'Value for The Bat!:' that is labeled 'Spam-grade:'  That is the one
M3> that has the actual calculation based on the key words shown below.
The vast majority are 1.16271e-030 with . and 1 featuring
occasionally.

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Fred Langa's email experiment

[Miles Johnson]

MJ>> Aside from Fred Langa's remarkable newsletter (www.langa.com)
MJ>> which has saved our butts so may times over the years at my work
MJ>> (and is easily worth the $11 per YEAR subscription IMHO)

DW> He's the one who claims that 40% of emails don't get to their
DW> recipients, right? (But his test involved sending out emails from an
DW> unknown name & address with the subject lines "Hi" and "Follow-up" -
DW> maybe the people who volunteered for it are more sensible than he gave
DW> them credit for )
Deborah did you, yourself READ that newsletter and the one(s) that addressed
this "from an unknown name & address" issue?

What Langa did was just an experiment, and a very important one. Yes, the
results are scary, but they that's not his doing, it's merely a snapshot of
what's going on right now . People can argue over the percentages all they
want, but I can confirm that more and more of my email does NOT get
delivered. And it doesn't matter what software you use. TB is a lot better
than many others, but we are facing a very, very serious problem here with
BOTH the spammers and those idiotic "challenge-based" solutions. But this is
getting a bit OT, isn't it?
 
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Re: Synchronizing Address Book

[Granville Cousins]

Hello TBUDL, 

I have a Laptop which I use on a daily basis and a Desktop Pc which I
use at various times in the week. I have set up my Desktop Pc to be a
backup machine for my Laptop and everything. Mostly I receive emails
when I am out from home and need to upload addresses from my Laptop to
my Desktop Pc. I also enter email addresses directly onto my Desktop
Pc. How can I synchronize the address books with each other so that I
have identicle entries on both machines even though I make entries
from both machines indenpendently?

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New edit key combo dicovery ?

[Gerard]

Hi Bat Users,

Well this is something I have not read before but i have big hands with
big fingers and can't help myself pressing wrong keys but today I ran into
this.

If you hold ctrl and press ? while keeping the cursor on a word the whole
word gets capitalized.
If you press ctrl with the key next to the ? only the first letter is
capitalized.

Does someone have a de-capitalize key combo for me ?

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Re: Fred Langa's email experiment

[Deborah W]

On Monday, February 2, 2004, 1:27:45 PM, Miles Johnson wrote:

MJ> Deborah did you, yourself READ that newsletter and the one(s) that
MJ> addressed this "from an unknown name & address" issue?

Yes, I did.

MJ> What Langa did was just an experiment, and a very important one.
MJ> Yes, the results are scary, but they that's not his doing, it's
MJ> merely a snapshot of what's going on right now.

That's where I disagree. First, the headline didn't accurately reflect
the claims in the article. Secondly, the claims weren't borne out by
the stats - if he didn't get replies from 40%, that doesn't mean that
40% of his emails weren't received. At best, it says that 20% weren't
received, & that he didn't receive 20% of the replies. (We could get
further into more complicated statistical analysis, that's just the
first blow.) Third, he didn't accept replies - people actually had to
forward them to a certain address. Given how good most people are at
following instructions, I figure a good lot of people didn't do what
he asked. That proves nothing about email, it only speaks to people's
ability to read & do what they're asked.

MJ> People can argue over the percentages all they want, but I can
MJ> confirm that more and more of my email does NOT get delivered.

I've not noticed much email go astray at all - I had trouble getting
an email to two people during the last bout of viruses, but my emails
to both bounced. I've not had even a single episode of someone saying
"I didn't get that email from you" or of me not getting an email
someone sent to me - and I get thousands of emails a week. If a full
40% of emails really didn't get to the recipient, nobody would be
using email at all, it would simply be too unreliable. If your phone
only called the number you dialled on 6/10 occasions, would you ever
bother to phone anyone?

MJ> And it doesn't matter what software you use. TB is a lot better
MJ> than many others,

It does matter what ISP you use though - many of them have very stupid
rules about what they'll allow through. AOL springs to mind 

MJ> but we are facing a very, very serious problem here with BOTH the
MJ> spammers and those idiotic "challenge-based" solutions.

Yes, they are idiotic, & really only suitable for people who don't
actually want to get any email at all. Not sure who they'd be LOL. But
my beef with Langa is that his claims just don't hold water - see the
number of people on his forum who, when they found out what his emails
said, dug them out of their spam-traps. As one of the participants
there said, what he's proved is that 60% of people will open an email
with a generic subject-line, from a person they've never heard of -
now *that's* scary.

MJ> But this is getting a bit OT, isn't it?

Yep. Shall we move to TBOT?

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Re: New edit key combo dicovery ?

[Marten Gallagher]

On Monday, February 2, 2004 at 1:55:22 PM, you wrote:

> Hi Bat Users,

> Well this is something I have not read before but i have big hands with
> big fingers and can't help myself pressing wrong keys but today I ran into
> this.

> If you hold ctrl and press ? while keeping the cursor on a word the whole
> word gets capitalized.
> If you press ctrl with the key next to the ? only the first letter is
> capitalized.

> Does someone have a de-capitalize key combo for me ?

Not here it doesn't - you may have this set up as a specific
key-combo action.

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Re: New edit key combo dicovery ?

[Dan Grunberg]

Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:55:22 +0100 (8:55 AM EST here) Gerard wrote:

> Hi Bat Users,

> Well this is something I have not read before but i have big hands
> with big fingers and can't help myself pressing wrong keys but today
> I ran into this.

> If you hold ctrl and press ? while keeping the cursor on a word the
> whole word gets capitalized. If you press ctrl with the key next to
> the ? only the first letter is capitalized.

> Does someone have a de-capitalize key combo for me ?

TheBat! => Help => Index: select "editor" and find your way to
Miscellaneous commands(?) and:

  Uppercase the Current Word  Ctrl+[
  
  Lowercase the Current Word  Ctrl+]
  
  Capitalize the first character of the Current Word  Ctrl+/



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AutoComplete?

[Darrin]

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Monday, February 02, 2004
7:10:23 AM

Hi,
I use to have TB set up so the subject line of a new email would auto
complete my often used text I used in subjects. It no longer does so.
Where in TB do I change this setting? I know Ive seen it somewhere but
cant find it now.
Thanks

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Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.

[Dan Grunberg]

 1. What KEYSTROKES (no mouse) can be used to select text, while
 editing a message?

 2. Is there a way to select ALL the text, while editing a message,
 without using a mouse?

 3. Is there a way I can delete all the text in a message using only
 keystrokes, or using a Quick template?
 



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Re: AutoComplete?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Darrin,

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 07:11:51 -0800GMT (2-2-04, 16:11 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

D> I use to have TB set up so the subject line of a new email would auto
D> complete my often used text I used in subjects. It no longer does so.

  Options -> Preferences -> System -> Autocomplete 'History + all address books'

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Re: Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 10:35 AM on 2/2/2004, Dan Grunberg typed ...

D>  1. What KEYSTROKES (no mouse) can be used to select text, while
D>  editing a message?

Shift + arrow key (standard Windows function)

D>  2. Is there a way to select ALL the text, while editing a message,
D>  without using a mouse?

Ctrl-A (also standard Windows function)

D>  3. Is there a way I can delete all the text in a message using only
D>  keystrokes, or using a Quick template?
 
Ctrl-A, the Del or BkSp.

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Re: Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.

[Dan Grunberg]

Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:40:03 -0500 (10:40 AM EST here) Bill Blinn Technology Editor wrote:

> At 10:35 AM on 2/2/2004, Dan Grunberg typed ...

D>>  1. What KEYSTROKES (no mouse) can be used to select text, while
D>>  editing a message?

> Shift + arrow key (standard Windows function)

D>>  2. Is there a way to select ALL the text, while editing a
D>>  message, without using a mouse?

> Ctrl-A (also standard Windows function)

D>>  3. Is there a way I can delete all the text in a message using
D>>  only keystrokes, or using a Quick template?

> Ctrl-A, the Del or BkSp.

That's what I need to put in my Quick Template.

How can I put the functions Ctrl-A and Del into a Quick Template I'm
editing, without erasing the whole Quick Template?


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Re: New edit key combo dicovery ?

[Gerard]

ON Monday, February 2, 2004, 3:50:09 PM, you wrote:

DG> TheBat! => Help => Index: select "editor" and find your way to
DG> Miscellaneous commands(?) and:

DG>   Uppercase the Current Word  Ctrl+[
  
DG>   Lowercase the Current Word  Ctrl+]
  
DG>   Capitalize the first character of the Current Word  Ctrl+/


Hi Dan,

I must have missed that part in the help file :-)

I found that I have a different keyboard and that the de-capitalise key on
my keyboard is the key with the 2 dots (plus the Ctrl key)
I am just glad I found it.

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Re[2]: Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Dan,

Monday, February 2, 2004, 5:49:58 PM, you wrote:

DG> That's what I need to put in my Quick Template.

Use the %CLEAR macro in your QT


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Re: New edit key combo dicovery ?

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Mon, 2. Feb 2004 at 14:47:49 + Marten Gallagher wrote:

>> If you hold ctrl and press ? while keeping the cursor on a word the whole
>> word gets capitalized.
>> If you press ctrl with the key next to the ? only the first letter is
>> capitalized.
>> Does someone have a de-capitalize key combo for me ?
> Not here it doesn't - you may have this set up as a specific
> key-combo action.

I think this could be keyboard layout related. With Ctrl-ß (which is
two keys left to Backspace on a standard german layout) it capitalizes
the whole word. Ctrl-´ (which is between ß and backspace) lowers the
whole word. The first character gets upped with ctrl-# (which is on
the edge of big enter and right shift).

I should have default keyboard settings.
btw: where are shortcuts stored? (where) in registry?


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Re: Keystroke (no mouse) selection and deletion of text.

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Mon, 2. Feb 2004 at 10:49:58 -0500 Dan Grunberg wrote:

>> Ctrl-A, the Del or BkSp.
> That's what I need to put in my Quick Template.
> How can I put the functions Ctrl-A and Del into a Quick Template I'm
> editing, without erasing the whole Quick Template?

So you want to clear the message text in your QT? This is what %CLEAR
would do..


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Exec macro?

[tb]

Is there any existing macro which will allow me to retrieve
the stdout of an executed commandline application?

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Re: mailto: link craziness

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Sunday, February 01, 2004, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

K>> When I click a mailto: link on a webpage (IE 6) I get about 30 IE
K>> windows that pop up - and no new message in The Bat.

> Yes. It's an IE configuration error. Go into Internet Options (Tools
> | Options in IE) and go to the "Programs" tab. Go to 'E-mail' and
> select something other than TB. Click Apply. Now select TB. Click
> apply. Close and all should be fine.

Is this in the FAQs? Comes up from time to time.

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Re: mailto: link craziness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Jonathan,

@2-Feb-2004, 11:57 -0600 (02-Feb 17:57 UK time) Jonathan Angliss
[JA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

>> Yes. It's an IE configuration error. Go into Internet Options (Tools
>> | Options in IE) and go to the "Programs" tab. Go to 'E-mail' and
>> select something other than TB. Click Apply. Now select TB. Click
>> apply. Close and all should be fine.

JA> Is this in the FAQs? Comes up from time to time.

No and it probably should be.

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Re: Exec macro?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo tb,

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:51:07 -0600GMT (2-2-04, 17:51 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

tko> Is there any existing macro which will allow me to retrieve
tko> the stdout of an executed commandline application?

If you can direct the output to disk, you can import the text with
%include. From the help:
INCLUDE = "filepath"insert the text generated by the template located in the file 
determined by the filepath


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mail password

[Lynn]

Hi all -

I've got a problem I can't figure out, and I hope someone
knows a fix, because it's driving me nuts.

I have been having some problems getting my web pages
uploaded to my new account, and in trouble shooting it,
the techs have changed my passwords a couple of times. So
I have new passwords. I plugged them into the 'transport'
page of the accounts properties.

However, the bat doesn't want to know about them, and
keeps demanding that I put them in again.

The checkbox in the POP window for 'don't save the
password' is *unchecked* ... it saved it fine before.

I've closed TB and reopened it, to no avail ... I don't
know what else to do.

tia,

Lynn

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Reading Receipt

[Greg Strong]

Hello TBUDL,

Why do I still get a reading receipt when my reading confirmation
template is set to ignore?

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Keeping address the same in a reply

[Sharon Stiles]

I have different names set up in my main account so I can keep tabs on where things 
come from (eg admin@, maillist@ etc). I don't want to set up separate accounts.  I 
change the address when I send the message. However when I receive a reply to one of 
these messages the address I use to reply automatically becomes the main account name. 
Is there any way I can make the message default to replying from the original address?

Eg a message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] automatically fills in [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I 
reply to it. I want it to reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Mon, 2. Feb 2004 at 20:42:09 + Sharon Stiles wrote:

S> I have different names set up in my main account so I can keep
S> tabs on where things come from (eg admin@, maillist@ etc). I don't
S> want to set up separate accounts.  I change the address when I send
S> the message. However when I receive a reply to one of these
S> messages the address I use to reply automatically becomes the main
S> account name. Is there any way I can make the message default to
S> replying from the original address?

S> Eg a message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] automatically fills
S> in [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I reply to it. I want it to reply from
S> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a quicktemplate for this, which looks like:
%SETPATTREGEXP='(adress1|adr2|adr3)@thequod.de'%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:phpnetgul:%-
[...]
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbudl:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbbeta:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbdev:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbtech:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbot:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tbdt:%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:suppe:%-
%IF:"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%FROMADDR%SUBPATT='1'"<>"":"%SUBPATT='1'":%-
%IF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:mainAdr:"%SETPATTREGEXP='(.*)[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]'%REGEXPMATCH=%FromAddr"%-

For your needs this would be enough:

%SETPATTREGEXP='(admin|maillist)@myname.co.uk'%-
%IF:"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%OTOADDR%SUBPATT='1'"<>"":"%SUBPATT='1'":"default"%-

This checks for the pattern in the first line in the original
To:-address and if it matches (admin or maillist) this will be
outputted, otherwise "default" will be used.

This Quicktemplate can then be used to set your sending address:

%From="your name <%QInclude='#myFromAddr'@myname.co.uk>"%-

Another possibility would be to setup special identities for different
folders and do the replies from there (Folder/Properties/Identity).

btw: you have no wrapping in your lines.


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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Sharon,

on Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:42:09 +GMT (02.02.04, 21:42 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

SS> Eg a message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] automatically
SS> fills in [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I reply to it. I want it to reply
SS> from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can write this into your reply template:
%TO=""%TO="%OTOADDR"
   or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
   
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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Sharon,

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:42:09 +GMT (2-2-04, 21:42 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

SS> I have different names set up in my main account so I can
SS> keep tabs on where things come from (eg admin@, maillist@ etc). I
SS> don't want to set up separate accounts.  I change the address when
SS> I send the message. However when I receive a reply to one of these
SS> messages the address I use to reply automatically becomes the main
SS> account name. Is there any way I can make the message default to
SS> replying from the original address?

In case you're filtering each address to it's own folder, you can
assign an address to the identity tab of the folder properties, that
would take care of that.

When you don't do that, it's a bit more complicated. You can't use
%From="%OToAddr" that would be the easiest way out, but that won't
work when yours is not the first address listed in the original To:
header.
How do you receive your mail? Via your own smtp-server? In that case
your server might be able to insert an extra header that includes the
local recipient. In the time I used a domain pop3-box to collect my
mail, my ISP inserted an extra header that could be use for that
purpose, was something like 'X-Envelope-To:' With such a header you
could extract the address with some regexp.

Maybe this'll help.

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[MAU]

Hello Sharon,

> Is there any way I can make the message default to replying from the
> original address?

Use this line in your Reply template:

%From=""%From="%OTOADDR"%-


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Re: Reading Receipt

[MAU]

Hello Greg,

> Why do I still get a reading receipt when my reading confirmation
> template is set to ignore?

Perhaps a v2.03 Beta/51 issue?

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[MAU]

Hello Sharon,

> Is there any way I can make the message default to replying from the
> original address?

Use this line in your Reply template:

%From=""%From="%OTOADDR"%-


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Re: Reading Receipt

[Greg Strong]

Hello MAU,

Monday, February 2, 2004, 3:02:50 PM, MAU wrote:

>> Why do I still get a reading receipt when my reading confirmation
>> template is set to ignore?

M> Perhaps a v2.03 Beta/51 issue?


Could be? I'll post on TBBETA.

I take it you do not have reading confirmation's generated when the
template is set to ignore.

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[George Mitchell]

Sharon Stiles wrote:

> I have different names set up in my main account so I can keep tabs
> on where things come from (eg admin@, maillist@ etc). I don't want
> to set up separate accounts. I change the address when I send the
> message. However when I receive a reply to one of these messages the
> address I use to reply automatically becomes the main account name.
> Is there any way I can make the message default to replying from the
> original address?

I use a QT something like:

%SetPattRegExp("(?i)[EMAIL PROTECTED]")%-
%_To_Addr=%RegExpMatch("%OToList, %OCCList")%-
%If:"%_To_Addr"<>"":{%From=""%From="Your Name Here <%_To_Addr>"}%-

which I QInclude in my reply templates.  This will look in the To and
CC fields of the message you're replying to for an email address that
matches the regular expression defined in the regular expression
pattern.  If finds one, it will use that address for the From address
of the reply.  Otherwise, it will use the account's default address.

The success of this template is dependent on the quality of the regex.
You must be able to define a pattern that will match all the possible
addresses you want to reply from.  If it matches a string you didn't
intend for it to, you could reply using a bogus address.

For protection against that, you could use:

%SetPattRegExp("(?i)[EMAIL PROTECTED]")%-
%_To_Addr=%RegExpMatch("%OToList, %OCCList")%-
%If:"%_To_Addr"<>"":%-
#%-%_O_From=%From%-
%-%From=""%From=%_To_Addr%-
%-%If:"%ABFromEmail"<>"":%-
%-{%-%_To_Addr="%ABFromFirstName('DefaultFirstName') 
%ABFromLastName('DefaultFirstName') <%ABFromEmail>"%-
%-%-%From=""%From=%_To_Addr%-
%-}:%-
%-{%-%From=""%From=%_O_From}%-
#%-

This will ensure that the matched address exists somewhere in your
address book.  For this to work, of course, you must have all your
email aliases defined in your address book.  As written, it will grab
the first and last names from the matched address book entry and use
those in the From address.  To prevent that, replace the appropriate
line with:

%-{%-%_To_Addr="Your Name Here <%ABFromEmail>"%-

Still not perfect, I don't think you can limit it to a specific
address book group, but better than the first one.

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Re: New edit key combo dicovery ?

[Chris]

On Monday, February 2, 2004 at 11:58:44 AM, dAniel hAhler wrote in the
message "New edit key combo dicovery ?"
:

> where are shortcuts stored? (where) in registry?
They are stored in the "Shortcut.cfg" file in the root of your mail
directory. However, that file is a binary file an is not easily
modifiable.

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[Chris]

On Monday, February 2, 2004 at 4:09:31 PM, MAU wrote in the message
"Keeping address the same in a reply"
:



You seem to be using The Bat! and yet there is no References or
In-Reply-To header. Are you using a client-side filter? Is your ISP
filtering? Is my ISP filtering?

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Re: Reading Receipt

[MAU]

Hello Greg,

> I take it you do not have reading confirmation's generated when the
> template is set to ignore.

I don't know. I have all of mine set to Put in Outbox and Prompt before
action.

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Re: mail password

[Allie Martin]

Lynn, [L] wrote:

L> I've got a problem I can't figure out, and I hope someone
L> knows a fix, because it's driving me nuts.

L> I have been having some problems getting my web pages
L> uploaded to my new account, and in trouble shooting it,
L> the techs have changed my passwords a couple of times. So
L> I have new passwords. I plugged them into the 'transport'
L> page of the accounts properties.

L> However, the bat doesn't want to know about them, and
L> keeps demanding that I put them in again.

This usually happens when the passphrase is incorrect. It will keep
popping up the passphrase prompt until you type in the correct one.

L> The checkbox in the POP window for 'don't save the
L> password' is *unchecked* ... it saved it fine before.

It will not keep that enabled until the passphrase is OK.

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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[tbudl]

Hello Chris,

> You seem to be using The Bat! and yet there is no References or
> In-Reply-To header. Are you using a client-side filter? Is your ISP
> filtering? Is my ISP filtering?

No, I was having problems with my mail server and had to restart it
twice. After that, I resent some messages that had gone nowhere. If you
look at the headers of my message you will see Resent-From: and some
other Resent headers.

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Re: Exec macro?

[tb]

--> Monday, February 2, 2004, 12:47:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hallo tb,

> On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:51:07 -0600GMT (2-2-04, 17:51 +0100, where I
> live), you wrote:

tko>> Is there any existing macro which will allow me to retrieve
tko>> the stdout of an executed commandline application?

> If you can direct the output to disk, you can import the text with
> %include. From the help:
> INCLUDE = "filepath"insert the text generated by the template
> located in the file determined by the filepath

Would that allow me to set one of the messages headers to the value
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Re[2]: mail password

[Lynn]

Monday, February 2, 2004, 4:03:19 PM, you wrote:

AM> This usually happens when the passphrase is incorrect. It will keep
AM> popping up the passphrase prompt until you type in the correct one.

Incorrect from what point of view? It's the correct
password .. ? It's fetching the mail, but only if I put
it in *again* ..?

Lynn

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Re[3]: mail password

[Lynn]

Monday, February 2, 2004, 5:53:08 PM, you wrote:


L> Incorrect from what point of view? It's the correct
L> password .. ? It's fetching the mail, but only if I put
L> it in *again* ..?

I'm sorry, I'm really getting frantic with this thing; I
should have said that all I have to do is hit enter on
the little box, so it's taking that all right .. and it
makes no difference whether the 'update account info' box
is checked or not ..

Lynn

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Re: mail password

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Monday, February 02, 2004, Lynn wrote...

L>> Incorrect from what point of view? It's the correct password .. ?
L>> It's fetching the mail, but only if I put it in *again* ..?

> I'm sorry, I'm really getting frantic with this thing; I should have
> said that all I have to do is hit enter on the little box, so it's
> taking that all right .. and it makes no difference whether the
> 'update account info' box is checked or not ..

Have you tried looking at the account log? It may have some hints as
to why it's reporting the password is incorrect. I know a while back
that TB popped up the password box on a server error, regardless of
the error, so locked mailboxes caused a similar kind of result.

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Re[2]: Keeping address the same in a reply

[rich gregory]

>> Is there any way I can make the message default to replying from the
>> original address?

MAU> Use this line in your Reply template:
MAU> %From=""%From="%OTOADDR"%-

RO> %From="%OToAddr"



2 questions in the differences in the suggested codes above.

Why the extra %From in one of them?
Do I remember correctly that the %- adds a new line character?


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Re: Keeping address the same in a reply

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Monday, February 02, 2004, rich gregory wrote...

MAU>> Use this line in your Reply template:
MAU>> %From=""%From="%OTOADDR"%-

RO>> %From="%OToAddr"

> 2 questions in the differences in the suggested codes above.

> Why the extra %From in one of them?

Because on resets it explicitly, the other doesn't. From what I
remember, it is needed to override account settings sometimes.

> Do I remember correctly that the %- adds a new line character?

Nearly, it's the reverse.  It prevers a new line character from
appearing.

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Re[2]: mail password

[Lynn]

Monday, February 2, 2004, 6:42:10 PM, you wrote:

JA> Have you tried looking at the account log? It may have some hints as
JA> to why it's reporting the password is incorrect. I know a while back
JA> that TB popped up the password box on a server error, regardless of
JA> the error, so locked mailboxes caused a similar kind of result.

Well, I did two things after I saw your mail .. I had a
look at the log, no joy there, nothing at all in the way
of errors, and I went to the account on comcast's page
and logged in there (after closing TB) to see what
happened there with the password. The password is right,
and believe me, I have put it into TB's field v-e-r-y
carefully, one letter at a time several times today.

I hope I'm not gonna have to jump off a bridge over this
:-(

Lynn

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Re: mail password

[Chris]

On Monday, February 2, 2004 at 11:33:32 PM, Lynn wrote in the message
"mail password" :

JA>> Have you tried looking at the account log? It may have some hints as
JA>> to why it's reporting the password is incorrect. I know a while back
JA>> that TB popped up the password box on a server error, regardless of
JA>> the error, so locked mailboxes caused a similar kind of result.

> Well, I did two things after I saw your mail .. I had a
> look at the log, no joy there, nothing at all in the way
> of errors, and I went to the account on comcast's page
> and logged in there (after closing TB) to see what
> happened there with the password. The password is right,
> and believe me, I have put it into TB's field v-e-r-y
> carefully, one letter at a time several times today.

Just in case this is the problem, verify the "Connection" type and
"Authentication" mechanism. Most servers take regular for both. You
may need to check with your ISP if they use a "non-standard" (and
probably more secure) method for either of these.

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Re[2]: mail password

[Lynn]

Monday, February 2, 2004, 8:51:54 PM, you wrote:


C> Just in case this is the problem, verify the "Connection" type and
C> "Authentication" mechanism. Most servers take regular for both. You
C> may need to check with your ISP if they use a "non-standard" (and
C> probably more secure) method for either of these.

I didn't change either, but on checking, they are both
set at 'regular', no bells and whistles, which is the way
they've been working for the last 2 months :-(

Lynn

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Re: mailto: link craziness

[ken green]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
> Yes. It's an IE configuration error.


Thanks.  Sorry for asking the obvious.  I finally checked myself and
sure enough, my IE settings has reset to default settings (Outlook
Express as mail client).

I should have known that uninstalling The Bat would cause IE to lose the
reference to TB.

RE: the FAQ entry: I believe the in order to repeat the problem, you
have to have two conditions met: TB registered as MAPI handler and IE
set to use anything else for the mail client.

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