Re: Gmail and two-step verification and The Bat
Hello Avram, Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 8:45:42 AM, you wrote: AS> Starting, yesterday, Google turned on two-step verification for one of my 16 gmail accounts. 16 gmail acounts? You are an Alphabet-junkie, or what? 😀   I would have said "dump Gmail for anything but Alphabet-related mail", but I fear that wouldn't be of great help for you. -- Kind Regards, Mark Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v. 9.3 freezes
Hello Susanne, Monday, November 16, 2020, 5:40:33 PM, you wrote: Hello Susanne, Friday, November 13, 2020, 12:41:07 PM, you wrote: I installed the update this morning and TB has frozen up multiple times, after changing preferences (editor background). Has anybody else notices problems? Do you mean that clicking on things does not do anything? If so I get this often. If I go to another program and then come back to TB! it seems to work OK again. Still no chance to test it. With the classic theme, I've experienced no further crashes. I'll be switching back to the theme I was using before and see if the problem returns. I'm experiencing the same problem when using the theme Smokey Quartz Kamri. Since I changed that to "Automatic" the problem seems to have gone... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 9.3.0.1 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
From 5 to 9 [ not 9 to 5 :-) ]
Hello Bats, On another computer that I do not use frequently, there is still a 5.x version of The Bat! installed. Recently accessing Gmail with TB! 5 results in getting warning messages from Google/Gmail. Is it possible to directly install a 9.x version of The Bat! over the 5.x version or is another step required before doing so? -- Kind Regards, Mark using The Bat! 9.2.1 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Customized Icon Lost
Hello Bats, I went from TB!8 to TB!9 and have lost a customized Icon for "Reply To All With Selection". It's been a long time since I had that configured and I do not know how I did it. I tried Add or Remove Buttons/Customize, but got stuck there. First off, I don't find "reply to all with selection", except for a toolbar I don't seem to be able to add anything at all. Is this still possible in version 9. -- Kind Regards, Mark using The Bat! 9.1.18 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Terminating an account
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 8:29:49 PM, you wrote: SC> Hello Tbbeta, SC> I have an account that I no longer use, but I want to keep the account with SC> the old e-mail. How do I stop it from trying to send and receive messages? Account / Properties / Options / Maibox Checking / Untick both possibilities ? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 7.4.16.33 (ALPHA) Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?
Hello Chris, Friday, July 18, 2014, 4:42:56 PM, you wrote: CW> Without thinking I moved TB! to my new Windows 7 Pro 64 bit machine CW> from an elderly XP Pro 32 bit PC. Whilst TB! appears to work fine I CW> would like reassurance it will be happy long term on a 64 bit OS. CW> Thanks. No problems so far (since the beginning of this year). I should try the newer version one of these days though, but still afraid I might lose some things/settings. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.8.10 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ghost QT
Hello Assad, Saturday, April 12, 2014, 3:37:33 PM, you wrote: AK> Really it's not there! I'm not blind. That's why it's a ghost! Well, if it IS a ghost, then you should contact some other instance, such as, f.i. Ghost Busters; some might prefer to call a shaman, others would play safe and call Jennifer Love-Hewitt! :-) Seriously, such a problem can be very annoying, I had a problem with a QT that would not work, not set up as a address-group based QT, not as a folder template; not even when it was used as a contact-specific QT. Turned out I was testing it with a contact of which the email-address was also used in another contact with a quite similar name (belonging to the same person), but that did not belong to the address-group I was working with. So, if it is not a ghost, the only advice I can give you: don't look for the obvious... -- Kind regards, Mark Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop To Laptop And Back Again
Hello MAU, Monday, December 2, 2013, 6:33:26 PM, you wrote: M> I use Second Copy since many years ago for all my backups and M> synchronizations (whether for email, photos, databases or whatever) and M> has always been 100% reliable. Not like built-in 'backup & restore' M> functionality in many applications. I also use it for TB!, but for documents I prefer "Beyond Sync". -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.8.10 30 days remaining in 2013. Actually it's 29 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20474 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL & TLS
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, October 1, 2013, 12:20:28 PM, you wrote: IAW>> At the moment I have both set to TLS and the incoming port is 995 wit IAW>> the outgoing one 465. RO> That should work. It works for me! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.8.2 92 days remaining in 2013. Actually it's 91 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20412 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Q1+: SSD
Hello Bats, Are some of you running TB! on an SSD? If so, is your mailbase on the SSD too, or did you set it up to reside an HD? And, above all, do you think it matters to not put it on the SSD; must we consider TB! writing new arriving mails ± every 10 minutes and deleting the trashed messages on a weekly basis to be frequent writes? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.8.7 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log Files
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, March 20, 2013, 11:27:37 AM, you wrote: MP>> I did not find where to change the size, yet. RO> Account -> Properties -> Options -> Maximum account log size Thanks! I was looking for a global settings, that's probably why I couldn't find it. MP>> Does a larger log size cause a slowdown? RO> Not that I'm aware of, but I changed the maximum log size about ten RO> years ago, so I can't compare. ;-) :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log Files
Hello Roelof, Sunday, March 17, 2013, 11:24:46 AM, you wrote: RO> TB does need a fixed path to the backup location, can't be helped. I find all of this rather confusing: This is what is in the configuration: Create an update to an existing archive H:\TB-BU\TBBU.tbk The BU ran today but stopped saying it couldn't find I:\TB-BU\TBBU.tbk "H" is an external USB drive. "I" does not exist (sometimes there's a USB-stick or another device that gets that Drive-Letter, but none was connected today. While the BU's are planned on a weekly basis and it ran today, that should suggest the latest BU would have dated from Wed, March 13. To make all this even more confusing I found a Back-Up made yesterday in: F:\TB-BU\TBBU.tbk "F" is a internal HD. Beats me! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) 78 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 79 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20217 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log Files
Hello Roelof, Sunday, March 17, 2013, 11:24:46 AM, you wrote: RO> However, for the next time something like this occurs, you could set RO> the account log a bit larger. TB's default log size is 20 kB, but it RO> can easily handle log file of 1000 kB. (Mine is set to 4000 kB) I did not find where to change the size, yet. Does a larger log size cause a slowdown? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) 78 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 79 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20217 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Log Files
Hello Roelof, Sunday, March 17, 2013, 8:23:19 AM, you wrote: RO> Find your mail directory, every account has its own log file in its RO> own account directory. What I get to see with view log is not the RO> latest entry in the loig file, but that might be a beta issue. Thanks, but that log also merely goes back to 16/03/2013 while I wanted to be able to proof (in case it was necessary) a message was sent on the 13th. I also have Back-Ups made with Second Copy, but those only have a log reaching 'till March, 15th. The Back-Up made with TB! itself dates from the 5th (It sometimes does not make a copy saying it doesn't find the HD on which the copy has to be made - the HD is there but it has another Drive Letter than TB! searches for - TB seems to be the only program that sees a change of drive letter). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) 75 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 76 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20214 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Log Files
Hello, Are the log files being archived somewhere or is what we get to see when we click the "View Accountlog"-button, all that is left? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.6.2 (BETA) Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: RitLabs bug tracker no longer working?
Hello MFPA, Thursday, November 8, 2012, 12:57:50 PM, you wrote: M> Is the tracker closed down, or simply not working? I haven't checked wether you are on TBBeta, but if you are you could have read that it "crashed" without the possibility/means to restore. You have to signup again and re-introduce your issue if it still exists. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.2.8 (BETA) 54 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 53 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20085 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CA Root certificate
Hello Leonard, First of, I do not know wether your problem with the Root Certificate has anything to do with the following, but: Friday, October 26, 2012, 10:23:59 AM, you wrote: >> In one case the computer battery was flat so that the date was ancient >> creating this problem. LSB> My computer is a desktop computer. No battery. It's not clear to me wether you wanted to say that your desktop computer is not a battery [which is probably a correct statement :-)] or wether you wanted to say that there is no battery in a desktop computer [which is possible but only if the battery has been removed or (unlikely) was never put where it belongs]. In other words, if the cell battery is "flat", there is no way for the computer to remember the actual date and it falls back to the original date of the BIOS. http://pctechnotes.com/how-to-change-your-cmos-battery/ -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.2.5 (BETA) 67 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 66 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20072 days now. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Large Sizes of *.TBB files
Hello Robert, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 2:36:46 PM, you wrote: RD> I was wondering if I am able to "Trim" the sizes of the various *.TBB RD> files I have? RD> My puny hard-drive has one TBB which is a few hundred gigabytes.\\ Well, it might help if you would send every message only once! :-) Over to others for more helpful answers. (Did you "purge and compact"?) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.3.1 96 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 95 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 20043 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Roguemoticon test
Hello MFPA, Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 9:07:33 PM, you wrote: M> That is by choice. As far as I know, my picture has never shown in the M> Rogues Gallery due to my decision not to tick the "Do you want your M> picture to appear..." box. (-; Nevertheless, I do see you! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 216 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 215 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19923 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Roger, Monday, May 28, 2012, 2:32:17 PM, you wrote: RP> Anyway, thanks for trying to help. I think it is just another case of RP> something working in one computer but not in another. This unfortunately RP> seems to be a problem quite often with TB. A pity nobody else has said what RP> they are seeing. I see both your picture and flag. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 218 days remaining in 2012. Actually it's 217 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19921 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Messages getting through?
Hello Jack, Saturday, May 26, 2012, 9:07:20 PM, you wrote: JSL> Thank you Rick. Well, at least I know that one got JSL> through. I guess there just weren't any answers to JSL> my questions. Well, in reply to: ,--/ \ | In the past I was always able to paste images in | my HTML messages and now am no longer able to do | so. When I CTRL-V to paste the image the cursor | moves to the right one space but the image doesn't | appear. `-8<--- I wanted to ask you if you were sure you were using the HTML-editor, but decided that wouldn't be much of an help to you :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 5.1.6.2 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replicating Attachment problems.
Hello Abigail, Thursday, August 11, 2011, 7:10:31 PM, you wrote: AM> I don't think that would be a good fit for my needs -- it would make it a AM> lot harder for me to locate and find documents over time. Not with Archivarius 3000... The only problem with the combination TB!/Archivarius is that the latter can show you the entire texts of mail attachements (and the location of the files), but not the way they look like in the native program, which it (Archivarius) can for attached files in Outlook or files in folders. Since I use Archivarius 3000 I only have to remember a (preferably) specific word that is used in the document to find the file. http://www.likasoft.com/document-search/index-en.shtml Not related to Likasoft, merely a very happy user :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 142 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 507 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19631 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't remove v5
Hello Dwight, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 3:36:01 PM, you wrote: DC> real name is? ,--/ From Wikipedia \ | Komando was born and raised in New Jersey. According to her show's website, "Komando" is her actual last name, and is | Russian-Ukrainian.[4] Her father was a businessman. Her mother was part of the team that developed UNIX. | | At 16, she graduated from high school. She went on to attend Arizona State University, graduating at 20 with a degree | in computer information systems. [5] While in school, she trained people to use their computers. | `-8<--- -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 159 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 524 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19614 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't remove v5
Hello Alto, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 9:37:55 AM, you wrote: AS> I've learned about the risks tools of the sort pose the hard way. I've AS> spent hours trying to undo the damage that they caused on more than AS> one occasion, years ago on my own machines, since then only on systems AS> I have to repair because their owner used just that kind of software. Etc. Reply follows later, no time for longer answer now.... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 159 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 524 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19614 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't remove v5
Hello Alto, Monday, July 25, 2011, 5:37:47 PM, you wrote: AS> Bad idea. You never know what tools like this do or do not remove, AS> what may or may not belong to the program you're working on. I suppose you haven't used Revo Uninstaller yet. 1) First it creates a system restore point before uninstalling a program 2) Then it uses the program's own uninstall (if any) 3) After that it offers the possibility to search the registry for any leftovers, lists them and leaves the user the choice wether he wants to remove any of these (all individually selectable) 4) Finally it can search for any left over files and folders. Once again it is up to the user to decide wether he wants to delete them or not (none are selected automatically, as is the case for the registry items in point 3 and the user can skip steps 3 and 4) (x) I use Revo Uninstaller Pro for a couple of years now and it isn't longer than yesterday that I was very happy to have it. I bought an upgrade for OmniPage 18 (coming from 17). The installer kept saying that an earlier version was still on my computer and had to be removed before I could install version 18. It seems to be a known problem since Nuance has created a tool specifically to remove earlier versions. Well, Nuance's tool wasn't able to do the job. I thought it had to do with PaperPort (which has a Omipage-dll of it's own) and PDF Converter/Creator from the same company that are installed too. At last, I used "Search Everything" to find any leftover files/folders with OmniPage in their name and removed those with Revo through the right mouse-click context-menu. These appeared to be left-overs from pre-OmniPage 15 versions and if I would simply have deleted those files, there would still have been left-overs in the Registry. Oh well, everyone has to decide for him/herself wether or not to use Revo Uninstaller (Pro), but this is not the kind of tool that does things without leaving the user the choice (as many "competitors" do). (x) When removing TB! nothing isn't removed that TB! itself would not remove during phase 1. But TB! did not remove everything from the either. BTW: the trick you suggested (renaming (or removing) thebat.exe did not work for me when trying to go back to 4. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 160 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 525 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19613 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 5.0 could be a Guinness world record holder
Hello Jack, Monday, June 27, 2011, 3:09:59 PM, you wrote: JSL> What did I miss? I suppose you are sure you have used the v4.2.44 msi-file. Do you have a back-up for safety (and your registration-key)? Try to uninstall it with Revo Uninstaller (I suppose the problem lies within the registry and you will only need to remove the remaining registry-entries as suggested by Revo (if any); when Revo asks to delete left-over directory's and files, you can skip deletion of these (if any)), then re-install. Don't shoot me if (unexpectedly) something goes wrong and it appears you have no valid back-up! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 188 days remaining in 2011. Yours truly residing on earth for 19585 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: unable to send messages 5.0.12
I originally wrote: >> Hi folks - >> Yesterday I had a crash during a backup of The Bat (5.0.8) -- some sort of >> memory violation -- and since then I have been unable to send mail, >> although I can download mail OK. >> So I updated by installing 5.0.12 on top of 5.0.8 and the problem >> continued. Then I uninstalled 5.0.12 and reinstalled it from scratch, and >> I still cannot send mail from any account. When I try to send mail, I >> receive the following pop-up error box: >> ** Message has not been sent. Server reply 5.7.1 >> ** : Relay access denied. >> As you can tell from the email you are currently reading, I don't have any >> problem sending from this account using webmail. >> Any ideas on how to fix the problem? >> Thanks in advance. Rick wrote: > I googled it - there is a lot of advice to pick through - a lot of it > has to do with server configuration > http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=relay+access+denied&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=Relay+access+denied Thanks for the hint, Rick. I assumed it was a Bat problem because I hadn't been notified of any server configuration changes with either my ISP or web host. Silly me... :-) One or both of the servers now requires authentication, so I gave The Bat the correct information and all is now well. Mark Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
Hi Luc and others - > i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in > the format membername@forumname. > I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname > part. > Any pointers? I use Header Contains thebat.dutaint.com to filter (and move to a folder) all emails from this list. You could try: Header Contains @forumname, and if that doesn't work then: Header Contains forumname. Mark Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Start another account's TB
Hello Bats, Is it possible, in Windows XP, to open TB, installed in account X, from within account Y, so that all changes (new messages, changes to settings etc.) are actually being registered in account X, without affecting the non-opened TB in account Y? I hope that doesn't sound too complicated. The actual problem is (for as long as she hasn't got her new PC) that now, my wife has to close down my account, open hers, then close that one and start mine again [er actually: she 'forgets' to close hers down leaving the next steps to me :-) ]. Switching to an account, without closing one, has never worked here, on any XP: when trying to switch back XP always freezes, leaving no choice but a hard reboot. Always wondered why that feature works in the free Ubuntu, but not in XP pro? Haven't tried it in 7, but that would not solve my problem (yet). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Raymund, Friday, February 4, 2011, 11:48:59 PM, you wrote: RT> I had that problem on three different PCs now. It always was the DMA RT> mode. For some reasons Windows believed the disk wasn't able to do DMA RT> and fall back to PIO which is incredibly slow. RT> Check your controller if it is using PIO if so fix it :-) (Send me a RT> private mail if you need with that.) After reading your mail I googled, downloaded and ran a visual basic script, resetdma.vbs from http://winhlp.com/node/10 Also, I used Soluto to Delay/Pause items being "loaded" at Startup. I could have paused them with Startup Cop but that tool doesn't tell me how long each items takes to start during logon, nor does it give any "advise". I now have a much faster startup and it never hangs any more during that startup. Thank you very much. This was a great help which eliminated a very frustrating problem! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 322 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 687 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19451 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Jernej, Friday, February 4, 2011, 1:00:51 PM, you wrote: JS> Make sure your hard drive isn't dying - slow boot up is often a JS> symptom of that (of course, if that VPN software you installed has JS> broken drivers, that's not Windows' problem). I don't have any XP JS> machines anymore (except in VMWare), but I don't remember seeing any JS> that needed more than 2 minutes to boot, even on slow laptops. There are (were) lots of items being started, some of which took 20 seconds, some of them belong to the software that is related to some kind of VPN (VPN itself is started manually) and there was another problem: see my reply to Raymond. Nevertheless: thanks for your reply! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 322 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 687 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19451 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Thomas, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 5:09:10 PM, you wrote: TF> Happy New Year of the Rabbit to all! :-) According to a news-item I was lead to believe that many Chinese have bought / will buy a rabbit now. Was there any particular reason why they did not do that with last year's animal? :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 332 days remaining in 2011. Actually it's 697 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19441 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Jernej, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:49:36 PM, you wrote: JS> Who says all data is loaded? It is being read, isn't it? Are there people who read all pages of a law-book when they only need the text of some sections of the law? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Jeff, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:58:08 PM, you wrote: JG> Windows may be daft but it's not that daft :-) JG> The registry is only read when data is needed from it, admittedly quite a lot at boot time, but after that only when a program needs it. JG> I have to say I long for the days of ini files, and MSFT guidelines for some years now have been for programs to JG> keep their specific data in their own (probably xml) files. Not in the Program Files directory since the days of Vista though! This PC (XP): 8 minutes to boot. Sometimes it takes 3 boots before it starts up, because it hangs twice (almost at the end of booting). If that happens I have lost half an hour. Problem first occurred after Professional insurance software to connect to several insurance companies' servers had been installed. Luckily the problem doesn't occur every day... The two pc's running Windows 7 certainly start a lot faster. But so does an older PC running the most recent Ubuntu... :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Jernej, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 12:39:12 PM, you wrote: JS> Times of Windows 9x and it's fragile registry are long in the past. I JS> haven't seen registry corruption (that wasn't a direct result of JS> hardware failure) on Windows 2000 or newer. If everything that's JS> currently reading and writing the registry would use separate files JS> instead, your computer'd work either much slower (because everybody JS> would be flushing those minuscule changes in small files all the JS> time), or configuration file corruption would be an everyday JS> occurrence. Reading / loading the data of all programs that reside on a computer at startup is overkill, particularly those programs of which one knows, even at the time they are being installed, that they will only be used a few times (or even only once) a year. Perhaps there should be two registries, the regular one and one for seldom used programs (a decision the user should take at installation time) which is only loaded when one of those programs is started. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 33 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 34 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19441 day now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search conditions in Message Finder
Hello Jernej, Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 9:46:51 PM, you wrote: JS> Err, what's the point of Registry then? There isn't any! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 32 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 33 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19440 days now. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Creating a template to replicate the company letter heading
Hello David, Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:44:13 PM, you wrote: D> I currently have a trial version of TB 4.2.36.4 which I am changing to (perhaps) from Pocomail. I D> have copied all the essentials across but cannot work out how to create a template similar to our D> letter heading. The office uses Outlook which I don't wish to do. D> It consists of an image (logo) at the top and details down the right hand side. At the moment I D> cannot even see how to insert an image let alone the rest. From searching through this list it would D> seem not to be possible but would appreciate some advice in case I have missed something. For Quick Templates (for mailings etc.): Tools - Quick Templates - Create A New Quick Template - Format - HTML The "Format - HTML"-part applies to Address Book Templates, Folder Templates and Account Templates too. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 25 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 24 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19383 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Won't Launch IE8
Hello Raymund, Friday, November 26, 2010, 11:09:07 AM, you wrote: RT> It might be the good old "%1",,0,0 problem :-) RT> Check the following registry key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\FirefoxHTML\shell\open\ddeexec RT> And delete ,,0,0. I think it was something like that (in my case not FireFox, but Opera). As always: unless you are pretty sure about what you are doing, it is not a bad idea to make a copy before changing something in the registry... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 36 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 35 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19372 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Won't Launch IE8
Hello Tim, Friday, November 26, 2010, 3:48:40 AM, you wrote: TH> I uninstalled Firefox now my links launch right away with IE8. Go TH> figure? I had a similar problem (It was not installing FireFox that caused it, but Opera) years ago. I am sure I have archived the answer somewhere, alas, I cannot find it. The only thing I am still sure of, is that it was not TB! itself that caused it... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 36 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 35 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19372 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
Hello Rick, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 2:44:20 AM, you wrote: R> I don't know what operating system you are using, but on XP mine is R> located at: R> C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The Bat!\cache R> Replace "Rick" with your login and you have it - unless you created R> your data files in a different place. I don't remember to have done anything special, but mine is simply under: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\mail\cache -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 48 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 47 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19360 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
Hello Roelof, Sunday, November 7, 2010, 2:45:00 PM, you wrote: RO> Yes. I thought you were away, travelling, otherwise I wouldn't have dared to answer! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 55 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 54 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19353 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cache
Hello Gunivortus, Sunday, November 7, 2010, 1:06:21 PM, you wrote: GG> got from The Bat a cache directory which contains meanwhile about 40 GB! GG> Can I delete all those files? ( If TB is not running). Yes, but first take your stop watch and look how long it takes before TB! starts up, then delete the cache and, once more, see how long it takes before TB! starts up and let us know if you see any difference! ;-) P.S.: The answer is Yes! (and you should notice some difference) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 55 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 54 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19353 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: saving attachments - blk
Hello Luc, Friday, October 1, 2010, 7:17:01 PM, you wrote: L> I'm looking for a way to save attachments from several emails in one L> go, instead of going over each e-mail individually. Any thoughts on L> how to achieve this? Perhaps (if applicable) you can automate this when TB! imports the messages by adding it to the rules? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 92 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 91 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19316 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Max 10 msgs
Hello Gary, Saturday, September 18, 2010, 6:46:29 AM, you wrote: GO> My experience is that the feature doesn't work. It does in 4.2.33.1 Beta (which I did return to because some things did not work in later versions. I don't know about this particular feature, because I don't use it normally, only tried it after reading this thread). I did not save earlier messages, so I don't know wether you and/or others checked "Purge Old/Exceeding Messages" in Folder/Maintenance Center? Anyway, both (number/age) features work as expected... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 105 days remaining in 2010. Actually it's 104 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19303 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Clamwin
Hello MAU, Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 5:15:14 PM, you wrote: >> I'm using NOD32 for years, it's working well but not as plugin. NOD32 >> is payware but worth it's price. http://www.eset.com/ M> Same here. And I fully agree with you. Idem dito. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 242 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 243 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19285 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat tools/backup/standard method manually. Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is already taken. Sorry if my original post wasn't clear. Mark Friday, July 23, 2010, 10:48:54 AM, you wrote: > Hello mark-toss, > On Friday, July 23, 2010 you wrote: mt>> Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. > Mark, are you saying that you can *NEVER* do a full backup? Even manually? Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. Another Mark Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:01:14 PM, you wrote: > Fellow list members, > Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and > can't find an answer that works. The problem has to do with the > filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the > backup filename as "TBbackup.tbk" and it will save the backup > properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent > backups either manually started or started by TB! result in an error > message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true > because the first backup was saved to that filename. > Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a > new backup filename be automatically created every time the > autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed > the current date and time could be used to generate a filename but I > never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a > macro string would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual > date and/or time. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Jack, Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:01:14 PM, you wrote: JSL> Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has JSL> to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the backup filename as "TBbackup.tbk" JSL> and it will save the backup properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent backups either manually JSL> started or started by TB! result in an error message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true because the first backup was saved to that filename. JSL> Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a new backup filename be automatically created JSL> every time the autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed the current date and time could JSL> be used to generate a filename but I never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a macro string JSL> would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual date and/or time. Are you sure you ticked the second choice "Create an Update to an existing archive" and not the first one "To Backup File (standard)"? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.33.1 Beta 203 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 204 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19246 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Ian, Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:02:49 AM, you wrote: TH>> I switched from AntiSpamSniper to Agava AntiSpamServant because AntiSpamSniper takes forever to scan email. No such problem here. I suppose Tim has set AntiSpamSniper to do too much... IAW> I have to say that I do not like ANY software that decided things for IAW> you and you do not have any say in the matter. AntiSpamSniper can be set to leave a copy of mails with a 100% Spam score on the server. Just check with Shift-Ctrl-F2 from within TB! to see wether there are any. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.35 77 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 78 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19120 days now. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: DLL AVV in (kav.bav)
I'm also running Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010 and followed the instructions given for disabling the pop-up (by settings in both KAV and The Bat!). After I closed and re-started The Bat!, like you the dll pop-up was still there, and the changes I made in The Bat! were not set. So I re-did them in The Bat!, closed the program and restarted and all was well -- no pop-up, and the changes I made were still OK. Just to be sure, I closed and re-started and everything was still fine. And still is now. My guess is that you need to make the KAV changes while The Bat! is not running. So just make sure the KAV changes are still OK, and then try re-doing the changes in The Bat! Worked for me. Mark Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:18:18 AM, Cesar Santos wrote: {snip} > Oops... I thought the issue had called off but I was wrong. When I > turned on my computer the message was shown again and I went to > Options, Preferences. There still remains the information: "Virus > Checking Plug-in: Kaspersky Status OK... and so on... > Likewise the options for "Check incoming mail... and Check outgoing > mail both were marked. > I am sure that I have unmarked and delete the information about Virus > Checking. > Maybe I should look into another place and not to the user interface > other than "Options Preferences" > I am not sure if I should modify something into the register or "ini" > file configuration. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP log
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP> 355 days remaining in 2009. MP> Actually it's 9 days) + less than 24 hours. Where is Roelof when he is needed?!:-) -- Best wishes, Mark __ Message made with The Bat, 4.2.13.8 ALPHA Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP log
Hello Luc, Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 11:57:13 AM, you wrote: L> "Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good." Yeah, yeah, blame it on Hendrik! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.13.8 ALPHA 355 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 9 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 19033 days now. Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S-MIME Certification from CaCert.org
Hello Jens, Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:17:44 PM, you wrote: JF> i would like to know, if my signed Messages can be verified by JF> anyone, Replys even PM welcome. Verified -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.10.14 281 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 83 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18959 days now. Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending mail to groups
Hello, Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:55:09 AM, you wrote: A> Is it possible to send mail to a group, using the group name in the A> "To" field, without The Bat expanding all addresses into the field A> when sending? The Help file suggests that this is not possible. I am A> not interested in "personalizing" the messages (at least, not at the A> moment). Rather, I want to know that if I send a mailing, say, to the A> "Ways and Means" committee, can it be sent in such a way that the A> recipients will see in the "to" field "Ways and Means Committee" A> rather than the individual e-mail addresses of each member? Put the "Ways and Means Committee" email-address in "To:" and the addresses of the rest of the group in "BCC:". That way, each member will receive the message addressed to "Ways and Means Committee" but they will not see the addresses of the other members of the group. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.9.6 (BETA) 222 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 142 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18900 days now. Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective download big files
Hello Paul, Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:22:41 AM, you wrote: PB> Is there any way to selectively download emails with big attachments, PB> say over 2MB? I don't know if this works for attachments (haven't tried it): Account - Properties - Mail Management - Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.9 202 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 162 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18880 days now. Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Hangs
Hello Privateofcourse, Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:45:04 PM, you wrote: >> Ouch! The one that always falls asleep! P> ??? I don't know what you mean. Could you elucidate? (I'm curious now). >> Try COMODO instead. It's much more responsive! :-) P> When you say 'much more responsive', in what way exactly? Apparently it did not occur to you that you wrote (twice) ComDodo instead of Comodo. Oh well, perhaps it's not that strange that you didn't get it, especially if the word "dodo" only makes you think of the species of birds that has died out. When talking to children in Dutch (actually I don't know if the Dutch use it, the Flemish do) one can say "dodo doen" (from the French "faire dodo") instead of: to sleep... Greetings from a Comodo/Nod32 user (on 2 PC's, that is, the other 5 have KIS (Kaspersky) installed). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.7.1 189 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 175 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18867 days now. Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Hangs
Hello Privateofcourse, Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:22:34 PM, you wrote: P> I'm also using Comdodo P> Firewall, no Comdodo AV installed Ouch! The one that always falls asleep! Try COMODO instead. It's much more responsive! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.2.7.1 189 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 175 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18867 days now. Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient receives red x instead of image
Hello Regina, Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:56:49 PM, you wrote: RK> I am using the latest version of the bat. In place of images, recipients receive instead a box with red x? RK> There may be a simple fix to this, but I'm sorry to say I can't seem to figure it out. Who do you mean by "recipients"? People you send messages to, or you (and others) receiving messages? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) 151 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 213 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18829 days now. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What are these chracters?
Hello Jack, Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:33:01 PM, you wrote: JSL> I've notice for a long time (probably ever since I started using TB!) JSL> that every time I forward a message, I get this: JSL> ===8<==Original message text=== JSL> Body of quoted text JSL> ===8<===End of original message text=== JSL> What are the "8<" characters which always appear where you see them? JSL> If it means anything, my editor is always set to Plain Text(MicroEd). JSL> They aren't in the reply templates and they appear no matter to whom JSL> the reply is sent. It's an eight "8" and a "<" representing scissors! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.1.11.11 97 days remaining in 2009. Actually it's 267 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18775 days now. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Manual for The Bat! suitable for printing?
Hello Vili, Saturday, November 29, 2008, 2:12:57 PM, you wrote: V> PDF manual for TB: V> http://www.thebat.hu/Download/The_batv4018MANUAL.pdf Sorry to say, but I've never seen such a bad case of Dutch translation! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.39.30 (ALPHA) 33 days remaining in 2008. Actually it's 32 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18645 days now. Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tbot-subscribe: question (OT)
Hello Luc, Friday, September 19, 2008, 3:10:04 AM, you wrote: L> Yesterday i sent a request to subscribe to the Tbot list... haven't L> heard back ... is it still active? Yes. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.34.6 104 days remaining in 2008. Actually it's 103 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18574 days now. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Remove Common Folders ??
Hello Leonard, Sunday, September 7, 2008, 5:43:39 PM, you wrote: LB> And I hope that the moderators will block statements that contain LB> comments or opinions, of whatever stripe, about the forthcoming U.S. LB> election. 1. If you wouldn't have mentioned it, I wouldn't even have seen it... 2. I'm glad I do not have to vote in the USA (in this case). :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.32.4 116 days remaining in 2008. Actually it's 115 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18562 days now. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello, Citing myself once more: BM>> For instance, the text "already living days and xxx hours" probably BM>> needed to be updated just before the macro put it into the message. That's BM>> the use of an external program. MP> %DaysTo("01/01/09") days remaining in 2008. MP> Actually it's %DaysTo("31/12/08" days) + less than 24 hours. MP> Yours truly residing on earth for %Numerical(%DaysTo='12/11/1957',%- MP> '^n day','^n days') now. MP> %DaysTo is a MyMacros macro. To prove it works, I have added it temporarely to the template related to this list. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.28.3 125 days remaining in 2008. Actually it's 124 days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for 18553 days now. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Speaking of signatures
Hello Bill, Friday, August 29, 2008, 9:18:37 AM, you wrote: BM> For instance, the text "already living days and xxx hours" probably BM> needed to be updated just before the macro put it into the message. That's BM> the use of an external program. %DaysTo("01/01/09") days remaining in 2008. Actually it's %DaysTo("31/12/08" days) + less than 24 hours. Yours truly residing on earth for %Numerical(%DaysTo='12/11/1957',%- '^n day','^n days') now. %DaysTo is a MyMacros macro. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.28.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using individual templates
Hello Leonard, Thursday, August 7, 2008, 3:53:27 PM, you wrote: LB> Previous responses suggested that I may have more than a single LB> Address Book entry for some persons, and this may be the cause of the LB> "confusion." My observations over time and repeated searches of my LB> Address Book have demonstrated to my satisfaction that duplicate LB> entries do not exist. How did you perform your repeated searches? Did you try the following: Open the AB. Click on Personal AB. File - Export To - Address List (Plain Text) Open that file with an editor. Find (name of the person in question)? Still no duplicate entries? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and MSGTAG
Hello Ian, Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:05:44 AM, you wrote: IAW> Are you saying that both parties must use HTML viewing for MSGTAG to IAW> work? It's just that in my testing I have received MSGTAG receipts IAW> when sending and viewing text only e-mails. No, only the receiver must use HTML viewing. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and MSGTAG
Hello Jens, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 8:39:40 PM, you wrote: JF> What exactly does MSGTAG do? In my fantasie, i would guess it only adds JF> a special Null-Graphic to HTML Mails to track the opening of Mails? Yes, although one can also choose to show a message stating MSGTAG was used to track the reading. I'll send you a message in a PM in which the message is shown. Of course if the addressee doesn't use html viewing, nothing the sender still has no confirmation... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and MSGTAG
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP> AAMOF I have now added "thebat.dutaint.com" to the "tagging off" group and will MP> be sending this message with MSGTAG turned ON. MP> We'll see if that works. :-) It seems to have worked. The little arrow in the tray icon starts to move, but immediately stops with a sound while the message is sent. -- Best wishes, Mark __ Message made with The Bat, 4.0.26.3 started replying on dinsdag 22 juli 2008 at 14:44:30 -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and MSGTAG
Hello Ian, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:15:36 PM, you wrote: IAW> I was wondering if there was a plugin that would it to be turned on or IAW> off based on a macro in a template. At the moment if I turn it on and IAW> forget to turn it off, I am certain that there would be comments on it IAW> in these lists. It happened to me (not the comments, but forgetting to turn it off). I don't know what version you are using but in the "Status" version you can add email addresses, email domains or groups to "tagging off" so that, even with MSGTAG switched on, those messages would be sent without tagging. AAMOF I have now added "thebat.dutaint.com" to the "tagging off" group and will be sending this message with MSGTAG turned ON. We'll see if that works. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and MSGTAG
Hello Ian, Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: IAW> I need to use MSGTAG when I send business e-mails and it would be nice IAW> to be able to turn it on or off from a macro. Does anyone know if IAW> there is a plugin for MSTGAG and The Bat!? I use it. There's no need for a plugin. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.26.3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How To Run TheBat! In The Background
Hello Jos, Sunday, May 18, 2008, 9:42:05 PM, you wrote: JK> Me, myself and I even don't know how to minimize Scheduler. ?!?!?!?!? Left click on the minus-sign in the right corner above to minimize Right click on the same minus-sign to minimize to the tray, provided you run Active Captions (http://www.shelltoys.com/minimize_tray/index.html) JK> We just close Scheduler. Then it will run in the background... JK> Only for a notification, or doing its scheduled job Scheduler pops up. But I think Brian wanted to know if it is possible to prohibit Scheduler from popping up; not for a notification, nor for a scheduled job that starts. I am afraid I can't help him with that... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.24.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB & yahoo acount
Hello simbabque, Thursday, April 17, 2008, 5:19:05 PM, you wrote: s> I wonder why it worked for me, then. You have a yahoo.de mail address, while ours is with yahoo.co.uk... They probably use different settings. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.20.2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AntiSpamSniper 2.0.0.4 Free issues
Hello Dan, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 5:13:10 PM, you wrote: DL> If someone could tell me where to get the latest update/patch, I'd DL> appreciate it. Click on the "Options" icon (Antispamsniper toolbar) choose "about" Search for new version (or update - or something like that) Otherwise : http://www.antispamsniper.com/ -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.20 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Dwight, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 3:02:13 AM, you wrote: DC> I've been very satisfied with fastmail, and there are others out there DC> too, some even free. I'm using IMAP with Fastmail and AIM Mail. But that's only a fraction of my email. Most goes trough my domain names. DC> your message caused me to look at my provider's email services. They DC> never mention IMAP in their entire documentation. >From their POV it's probably a wise decision. :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.20 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best way to use The Bat on two home computers?
Hello Dwight, Friday, March 28, 2008, 11:58:31 PM, you wrote: DAC> Better yet, switch to IMAP and leave POP behind. You'll be glad you DAC> did. Except of course when your provider has decided to stop offering IMAP :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spell checker not working?
Hello Leonard, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 11:59:16 AM, you wrote: LSB> What are the macros for the following that appears in your signature? LSB> On Pentium M - 1.4 GHz, 1 GB RAM and 60 GB HDD With MyMacros or zOmbie's Macros and probably others. Some macros no longer work, some might slow down TB! http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00705.html -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 Functionality
Hello, Citing myself once more: MP> Hello Leonard, MP> Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 8:32:50 PM, you wrote: LSB>> (Third try in posting this query) MP> They're coming in in reverse order! :-) Perhaps this has something to do with: ,--/ Marck's message: \ | This is an administrative cross post. | | Johannes is in the process of moving the lists to new homes on servers nearer | (in the next room instead of across the country). | | Please bear with us while the move and DNS changes take hold - we may | experience a little turbulence! ;-) `-8<--- which, AFAICS, went rather smoothly. -- Best wishes, Mark __ Message made with The Bat, 4.0.18.6 started replying on vrijdag 28 maart 2008 at 02:18:22 -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F4 Functionality
Hello Leonard, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 8:32:50 PM, you wrote: LSB> (Third try in posting this query) They're coming in in reverse order! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have lost my F4 functionality
Hello Leonard, Thursday, March 27, 2008, 12:32:57 AM, you wrote: LSB> I have lost the F4 functionality (highlighting a portion of an LSB> in-coming message and replying to the sender, but quoting only the LSB> highlighted portion). LSB> Now when I hit F4, a new message is generated without an addressee and LSB> nothing quoted A) Is this so in all folders/accounts? B) Please set %REPLYTO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (delete the +-signs) -- Best Wishes, Mark ___ Message from Kantoor Mark Partous, Enterprisenumber: 0854.511.996 using The Bat, 4.0.18.6 on donderdag 27 maart 2008 om 14:16:48 Windows 2000 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: WAS: moving parked messages
Hello Luc, Tuesday, March 18, 2008, 10:33:36 PM, you wrote: L> The way i go around this for the time being is that i mark them as L> unread and move them. That way i easily find them back and L> "shortcut" them as parked and read. If one uses the method described by Ian White and creates a colour group [f.i. "Moving Parked", "Parkeerbeheer" :-) or whatever], assigns it to the parked messages before moving them, one doesn't have to worry about unread messages that already were in the folder you were moving them to. FWIW :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.18.2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 4:17:13 PM, you wrote: RG> We're talking about antispam sniper? No. Antispamsniper (Pro) is not the same as Antispam Sniper (Pro). Both have a freeware version. This is what I use: http://www.antispamsniper.com/ also "promoted" here : http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/plugin/plugins.php :-) I suppose you are talking about: http://www.bestsecuritytips.com/content+index.id+6.htm That, I have never used. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello Rick, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 2:20:12 PM, you wrote: RG> It installs a service called TMAGENT in the free and paid versions. RG> In the free it send info back and serves up ads. In the paid it just RG> sends info back. If you remove it you will break the program Says who/what? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back to TB
Hello David, Saturday, March 1, 2008, 12:11:07 AM, you wrote: DE> 3) Anti Span. OK what is out there. Why don't you try spic? You can find it here, but it's hard to get without a portion of span: http://www.spicnspan.com/ :-) If you're willing to trade an "n" for an "m" this would be my advise: http://www.antispamsniper.com/ I use the Pro- but there's a freeware version too. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.9 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat 4.x and PGP 9.x
Hello O., Saturday, February 23, 2008, 7:29:40 PM, you wrote: OMM> I have searched, so I'm sorry if I have missed this. However, I am OMM> trying to set up PGP Desktop 9.0.6 to work via the bat. Right now I OMM> have to use the tray icon. OMM> Is there any way around this? Thank you all you helpful tbudl folks! I don't know if PGP 9 has ever worked with TB! I seem to remember some people had problems when PGP 9 became available, but I don't know if they were ever able to use it (in an integrated way) with TB! Personally, I never stopped using PGP 8.0.2, which works fine in combination with TB! -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TNEF support, how does it work?
Hello MAU, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 10:34:34 AM, you wrote: M> I think that would be what people would expect. As I say in another M> message I don't get much TNEF email lately (I have trained my M> correspondents) but they used to use rich text showing quoted text in red (with no >>>, etc.) and their own text in blue. If you can't see the M> colours, it is difficult to tell which text is quoted and which not. Some time ago, I have been waiting for a couple of months for a reply from someone who had simply quoted my text, except for the first question to which he replied with a full written sentence. I did not understand why he only had answered that question and not the others. Those were questions in which I asked him under what code-number some expenses had to be entered. Turned out he HAD answered my question by putting numbers right behind my question. My original questions looked like this (not the real content, of course): question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 perhaps was + same question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 and /or question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 also question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345? to which he replied: question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 perhaps was + same question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 and /or question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 0123 1204 or 1205 also question 012345 question 012345 question 012345 question 012345? 4223 and so on. It was only much later that I saw the added numbers. And looking at that winmail.dat with winmail opener, I now see that he wrote those number in red. Needless to say I would have seen his replies much earlier if I would have looked at it with winmail opener. Even if TB! would keep on showing the text version only, I now know that, to make sure I do not oversee possible replies, I'd better open the winmail.dat with winmail opener... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.14 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request (or help?)
Hello Steven, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 3:53:00 PM, you wrote: SPV> One can work around this shortcoming by creating a new SPV> message and cut'n'pasting from the old one, but it seems SPV> like it should be easy enough for the application to SPV> further simplify this task, as Thunderbird has done. Not the same as what you have in mind, but you could right-click on the message, choose "send to folder", choose the out-folder and there you can edit the message. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote: MP>> Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? MM> I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. What happens when you activate an AB New Message Template in which you put f.i. (not necessarily as a salutation): "1. Joe" in the AB entry for him alone "2. Sue" in the AB entry for her alone (*) "3. Joe And Sue" in the AB entry for both Which one shows up then? (*) I presume Johnny Cash is not envolved! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:24:00 PM, you wrote: MM> I have an additional entry for him alone and for her alone both with their own handles. Are there any AB New Message templates active for those? If not, what happens when you activate one for him in which you put "Dear Joe and Sue" or whatever [f.i. you could also use something like "The miserable life of a toilet blessed with a severe form of Mysophobia"] :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 10:37:01 PM, you wrote: MM> Understandably this is hard to understand (even for me, and I wrote it!) MM> Thanks for taking a look at this for me. Before writing I tried that out and it worked as expected. Could it be you have more than one entry for them in your AB? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book and New Message Template
Hello Maggie, Thursday, January 24, 2008, 6:38:02 PM, you wrote: MM> If I choose a new email from the New Message button in the address book MM> when their name is highlighted, all is well and the new message reads: Dear Joe and Sue. MM> If I create a message by calling a new message from the main screen and MM> using their nickname (handle), the salutation says Dear Joe only. MM> How can I get the new message to read Dear Joe and Sue when using the nickname to call a new message? Perhaps I'm missing something, but what's wrong with simply putting "Dear Joe and Sue" (without quotes of course & instead of using a macro) in the AB - New Message Template, meanwhile not forgetting to tick "use specific template for new messages" (translated - text may be slightly different)??? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copy TB structure to Voyager
Hello Bats, Two questions: 1) Is it possible to copy my TB! setup (accounts, folders, rules...) without coying the messages themselves. (did not see this possiblity in Back-Up) 2) If I were to collect mail with Voyager, leaving the messages on the server, would The Bat! still see those as unread messages that have to be downloaded? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.25 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! Version 3.99.3
Hello Simon, Monday, September 17, 2007, 8:44:09 PM, you wrote: S> I have noticed that most people on this list seem to be using TB! version S> 3.99.2x or below, and not 3.99.3. Did I miss something? Is 3.99.3 not a S> particularly stable release? I think you mistakenly consider .3 to be the same as .30 and thus a more recent version than .24... Perhaps you would have expected 3.99.3 to be named 3.99.03? If it is of any consolation: you're not the only one to be 'deceived'! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.24 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .EML associations don't remain "sticky"
Hello lonewolf, Saturday, September 1, 2007, 11:31:55 PM, you wrote: lrca> Hey, I spoke too early! Issue has come back after a reboot. Go back to 3.99.3 and see if it happens again (I think it won't). -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.24 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .EML associations don't remain "sticky"
Hello Jurgen, Saturday, September 1, 2007, 7:41:09 AM, you wrote: >> Thanks, the problem has come back - not Outlook but Outofluck Express >> seems to keep grabbing it. JH> In the Control Panel is 'Internet Options'. That has the tab 'Programs'. JH> Go there and look what's set as email program. I bet it's Outbook Perplex. I think it's a wrong bet. Going back to 3.99.3 will probably solve the problem. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.24 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need help with filter
Hello John, Saturday, August 4, 2007, 1:33:51 PM, you wrote: JP> I have a filter - first in the list - to pick up messages marked as JP> Spam by K9. JP> I have set up K9 to add to the beginning of the Subject the word JP> "{Spam}" (without the "). JP> The filter reads:- JP> Subject contains {Spam} JP> Move to \\myisp\Inbox\Spam JP> Mark as read I don't use K9 anymore (or TB!), but you can copy/paste this one; once you have pasted it, don't forget to change the folder to your preference! Also: this filter deletes the message from the server (I suppose you'd want that too, but I may be mistaken): TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [4A31FDE0.01C49062.236C3EE8.40D55E8C] Name: K9\20Spam Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20spam\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMark\5CPrePost\5CSpam\20Trap\20K9 DeleteFromServer IsActive IsSendQueue endFilter -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Useful filter to catch those blank spam+pdf
Hello, Wednesday, August 1, 2007, 8:36:20 AM, you wrote: awc> Used to be that you could paste the text of a filter in, now I awc> can't find the option at all. How do we do it in the new version? Whith focus on the heading of the set of rules where you want the new rule to reside: Edit, Paste or simply Ctrl-V Not that it has caught anything yet. When pasted, I get a rule saying: Message Source match -+[0-9]+\r\n(?:[a-zA-Z\-]+: [^\r]+\r\n)+(?:\r\n){1,}-+[0-9]+\r\n(?:[a-zA-Z\-]+: [^\r]+\r\n)*Content-Type: application/pdf; and an action: Set memo. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello ETM, Monday, July 9, 2007, 11:30:42 PM, you wrote: E> Can you move that archive away from TB! and use E> Mailbag to open it, say, on an external hard E> drive? Yes. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello ETM, Monday, July 9, 2007, 10:51:47 PM, you wrote: E> What does that mean, does it or doesn't it work as E> an archiver? ,--/ from the website: \ | If you're buried alive in e-mail, let Mailbag Assistant come to the rescue | with tools to search, organize, analyze and archive your mountain of messages | Â- tools that are probably inadequate or unavailable in your mail program. `-8<--- In Mailbag Assistant, you open your TB! files, choose which messages you want to archive, then copy them to a Mailbag (archive) file. I think it is clear I was not using the word "archiving" as in compression tools such as PK/Win/7-zip, Winrar e tutti quanti... :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Archiving Mail
Hello Marten, Monday, July 9, 2007, 6:39:45 PM, you wrote: MG> Hmmm I had a look at that as a result of your reply but it doesn't seem to MG> do the archiving - it just looks at the emails. Oh dear! And I thought all the mail I wanted to preserve resides in Mailbag archives. Not only the the messages received in TB! but also in Poco, OE a.o. :-) Seems you did not take a good look, or your definition of archiving differs from mine... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.99.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Installation problems with Vista
Chris- Sunday, July 8, 2007, 1:34:26 PM, you wrote: > (You may have to confirm some of these actions.) > 1) Log in as an administrator. ...and better yet, enable the Administrator account: open a command prompt box and type net user Administrator /Active:yes Of course, my preference would be to go with your original inclination and throw it against the wall, then go back to XP. I've got a Vista system at work that I fire up when I absolutely need to, and won't touch it any other time. -- -Mark Wieder Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html