Re[2]: 3 quickies

2000-10-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Batlisters.

  In a post time stamped 22:17:35 +0700 re: 3 quickies
  Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

SH if you still have the problem for the conversion, send me the
SH *.csv file privately, then I will send you back *.abd file.

  Syafril, thanks very much for your very kind offer. I've
  managed to import the bulk of my OE address book  where
  I  need  a  name, I just add it from rcvd posts. I'm not
  completely  sold  on  TB!   so I'm maintaining OE on my
  machine as I evaluate TB!.  Worse comes to worse I can
  always open OE  find the person I'm looking for.

  Regards,

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Re[2]: 3 quickies

2000-10-12 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Batlisters.

  In a post time stamped 22:54:46 +0200 re: 3 quickies
  ArekG wrote:

A did you download Netscape Navigator instead of Netscape
A Communicator? If answer is 'yes', you cannot get an address
A book, because Navigator is stand-alone browser!

  Yes,  I  believe  this  is  what I did because my *only*
  interest  in  Netscape  was to test pages created for my
  website.  I  never  anticipated  using  for  any another
  purpose , at this juncture, I'm not sure it's worth the
  space on my drives which are already packed.

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Re:3 quickies

2000-10-11 Thread ArekG

Hello Jan,

On Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 2:51:45 PM, you wrote:

JR  Mark,  I  use  IE  (Internet  Explorer)  but  downloaded
JR  Netscape for testing/compatibility purposes. It looks to
JR  me that I did not download the address book module.

   Jan, did you download Netscape Navigator instead of Netscape
   Communicator? If answer is 'yes', you cannot get an address book,
   because Navigator is stand-alone browser!
   In this case you should download Netscape Communicator (much bigger
   in size...) and then you will be able to do all those things
   Syafril has said about exporting address book from OE to TB!...

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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Syafril,

Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 3:43:34 AM, you wrote:

SH Do as follow:
SH -  from  OE,  export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then
SHexport to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose
SHfields you want to convert).
SH -  From  Netscape  Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then
SHexport to LDIF format.
SH -  From TB! address book import LDIF format.

SH That's  the  way  I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5
SH address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I
SH send him back in *.abd file).

I thought that the latest Netscape would import direct from OE5, don't
have it installed ATM so I can't check.



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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Jan,

Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 1:02:30 AM, you wrote:

JR   Mark,  I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a
JR   couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find
JR   an  LDIF  converter.  I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?)
JR   but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert
JR   my OE address book to the LDIF format.

JR   Can  you  lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many
JR   thanks.

The procedure is on the site  http://www.interguru.com/msieall.htm
otherwise just open Netscape address book and import from OE5, this is
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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Michal Kozusznik

Hello Gerd,

Monday, October 09, 2000, 10:38:50 PM, Gerd Ewald wrote:

 Sorry, can't provide a better solution. But I remember having discussed a
 similar problem with someone off-list. I browsed my msgs but can't find out who
 it was.

I wrote about a few days ago. Don't know you didn't notice it.
Just  export  OE  address  book as Comma Separated Text and now import
into TB! as Address List (Plaint text) from Address Book/File/Import

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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Mark Aston,

Responding  to  your  article  on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 at 07:10:02 GMT +0100
(which was 10/10/2000 13:10 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

SH Do as follow:
SH -  from  OE,  export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then
SHexport to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose
SHfields you want to convert).
SH -  From  Netscape  Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then
SHexport to LDIF format.
SH -  From TB! address book import LDIF format.

SH That's  the  way  I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5
SH address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I
SH send him back in *.abd file).

MA I thought that the latest Netscape would import direct from OE5, don't
MA have it installed ATM so I can't check.

You  right as far as OE5 installed at same PC with NS, for this case the
procedure  more  simple,  from  Netscape  Messanger Address Book just do
"import from Outlook Express" then export to LDIF format.

Commonly  OE user not installed Netscape Messanger, so I ask him to send
*.csv  file,  then  send  him  back  *.abd  with instruction save at TB!
default directory.


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Re[2]: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Batlisters.

  In a post time stamped 07:13:29 +0100 re: 3 quickies
  Mark Aston wrote:

MA The procedure is on the site  http://www.interguru.com/msieall.htm
MA otherwise just open Netscape address book and import from OE5, this is
MA a *.wab (windows address book)

  Mark,  I  use  IE  (Internet  Explorer)  but  downloaded
  Netscape for testing/compatibility purposes. It looks to
  me that I did not download the address book module.

  On  the  interguru  site,  I  had  found  the  page  you
  reference  but  it seems like it refers to Outlook  not
  OEincludes  the  following  description "(note: NOT
  Outlook  express,  which is a totally different animal).
  The  Wabout  link leads to a a site which describes it's
  product as a program to be used for importing IE records
  into Outlook.

  Let  me say that I have exported from IE to CSV format 
  was  able  to import it into TB! however, I was not able
  to import all the information that was exported from IE,
  such  as  Tel  #, web page, etc. despite the fact that I
  set this up in the fields.

  Also  Graham  offered  "Dawn" as a program to facilitate
  export-import  process. My personal experience with Dawn
  was  that  I  was  not successful exporting to a Pegasus
  format  importing into TB!. Undoubtedly, I took a wrong
  turn -- don't know where, however.

  So  I  take  this  opportunity to thank you all for your
  help.  My  conclusion,  on  day  20 of my TB! evaluation
  period,  is  that  the  TB!  developers should make this
  transfer easier given the popularity of OE.

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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-10 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Jan Rifkinson,

Responding  to  your  article  on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 at 08:51:45 GMT -0400
(which was 10/10/2000 19:51 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

JR   Let  me say that I have exported from IE to CSV format 
JR   was  able  to import it into TB! however, I was not able
JR   to import all the information that was exported from IE,
JR   such  as  Tel  #, web page, etc. despite the fact that I
JR   set this up in the fields.

That's  what  I  found here, so I recommend to use Netscape Messanger as
"translation  engine".  3-4  month  ago, I had help more than 3 people to
convert OE5 AB to TB!.

JR   So  I  take  this  opportunity to thank you all for your
JR   help.  My  conclusion,  on  day  20 of my TB! evaluation
JR   period,  is  that  the  TB!  developers should make this
JR   transfer easier given the popularity of OE.

While  I  agree  this, if you still have the problem for the conversion,
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Re[2]: 3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Michal Kozusznik

Hello A.,

Sunday, October 08, 2000, 2:14:28 AM, you wrote:


JR  2.  What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when
JR  importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.  I  see

I've  exported  address  book  from Outlook express as Comma separated
text.  Then  imported  into  TB! as Address List Plain text. It's done
with success.
Strange is, didn't work comma separated import in this case


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3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello BatListers,

  Gerd wrote:

Well,  when  I  had  to  import  the adresses from Outlook, I just
exported any adress as Vcard from OE and imported the vcard in TB.
Not  very elegant, esp. when many adresses have to be imported. At
least it worked :-) !

  Thanks  for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this,
  OE  wanted  me to select a single card. If I did this, I
  would  be  doing  it  all  day  as I have a rather large
  address  book.  Were  you  able  to  select  a  group of
  addresses  at  one  time  to  export?  If  so, could you
  explain exactly what steps you took? Thanks very much.

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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Gerd Ewald

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Hello Jan Rifkinson !


On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:55:24 -0400 GMT your local time,
which was 09.10.2000, 21:55 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

 Not  very elegant, esp. when many adresses have to be imported. At
 least it worked :-) !

   Thanks  for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this,
   OE  wanted  me to select a single card.

[...]


+
Yeah, that's what I meant with "...not very elegant...". It took me hours ! But
at least it was less work than typing all in.

Sorry, can't provide a better solution. But I remember having discussed a
similar problem with someone off-list. I browsed my msgs but can't find out who
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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Jan,

Monday, October 09, 2000, 8:55:24 PM, you wrote:


JR   Thanks  for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this,
JR   OE  wanted  me to select a single card. If I did this, I
JR   would  be  doing  it  all  day  as I have a rather large
JR   address  book.  Were  you  able  to  select  a  group of
JR   addresses  at  one  time  to  export?  If  so, could you
JR   explain exactly what steps you took? Thanks very much.

Try http://www.interguru.com/ convert your OE address book to LDIF
which TB! can import without editing fields. If you have a copy of
Netscape you can import from OE and export to LDIF with similar
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Re[2]: 3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Batlisters.

  In a post time stamped 22:23:38 +0100 re: 3 quickies
  Mark Aston wrote:

Mark Try  http://www.interguru.com/  convert your OE address book
Mark to  LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you
Mark have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to
Mark LDIF with similar results.

  Mark,  I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a
  couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find
  an  LDIF  converter.  I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?)
  but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert
  my OE address book to the LDIF format.

  Can  you  lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many
  thanks.

Jan Rifkinson
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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-09 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Jan Rifkinson,

Responding  to  your  article  on  Mon, 9 Oct 2000 at 20:02:30 GMT -0400
(which was 10/10/2000 7:02 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

Mark Try  http://www.interguru.com/  convert your OE address book
Mark to  LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you
Mark have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to
Mark LDIF with similar results.

JR   Mark,  I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a
JR   couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find
JR   an  LDIF  converter.  I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?)
JR   but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert
JR   my OE address book to the LDIF format.

JR   Can  you  lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many
JR   thanks.

Do as follow:
-  from  OE,  export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then
   export to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose
   fields you want to convert).
-  From  Netscape  Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then
   export to LDIF format.
-  From TB! address book import LDIF format.

That's  the  way  I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5
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Re[2]: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]

2000-10-08 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello BatListers.

  In  a  post time stamped 19:14:28 -0500 re: 3 quickies A
  Curtis Martin wrote:

JR 2.  What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when
JR importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.  I  see
JR specific  formats  set  out  for  PegasusEurdora but not
JR Outlook  Express  which  is  probably  the  most  widely used
JR emailer [ at least in the U.S. ]

A. I'll  leave  that  for  the  likes  of Ming and other prior OE
A. users. :-)

  Is  there  someone  who  has  made  the  transition from
  Outlook   Express  to  TB!  who  can  answer  the  above
  question? Many thanks.

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Re: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]

2000-10-08 Thread Ming-Li

On Sunday, October 08, 2000, 2:15:20 PM, Jan wrote:

JR 2.  What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when
JR importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.

A. I'll  leave  that  for  the  likes  of Ming and other prior OE
A. users. :-)

   Is  there  someone  who  has  made  the  transition from
   Outlook   Express  to  TB!  who  can  answer  the  above
   question? Many thanks.

Sorry, not that I'm dodging the call to serve my country...ehhh,
fellow Batmen, it's just that I don't know the answer. While I took
great pain importing all my old mail into TB, I purposefully left my
old address book (which was in a mess anyway) behind. So, maybe
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Re: Re[2]: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]

2000-10-08 Thread Graham

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Jan,

Your best bet is to get a copy of Dawn, which is a program that can
convert your OE address book from OE format to one of a number
(including from memory, Pegasus) that could be recognised by TB.

Its freeware and available from a number of software libraries.  I
seem to remember seeing it on Softseek (www.softseek.com).

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JR importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.  I  see
JR specific  formats  set  out  for  PegasusEurdora but not
JR Outlook  Express  which  is  probably  the  most  widely used
JR emailer [ at least in the U.S. ]

A. I'll  leave  that  for  the  likes  of Ming and other prior OE
A. users. :-)

  Is  there  someone  who  has  made  the  transition from
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3 quickies

2000-10-07 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello BatListers,

 1.  Is  it  possible  to  attach  an address to a folder when
 "create  new  msg"  is selected? For example, I have a folder
 that gets all the msgs filtered from this list, If I click on
 the  "create  a  new msg" with my cursor on TBUDL folder, the
 correct  template  appears  but  I  still  have  to enter the
 address manually. Not that I'm that lazy, just curious.

 2.  What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when
 importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.  I  see
 specific  formats  set  out  for  PegasusEurdora but not
 Outlook  Express  which  is  probably  the  most  widely used
 emailer [ at least in the U.S. ]

 3.  Am  I the only person who finds TB! address book a little
 squirrely?  For example, when searching for a name it doesn't
 seem  to  include  the separate sub-folders in the search. Is
 there a setting that I've missed perhaps?

 Thanks  regards,

Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: 3 quickies

2000-10-07 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 19:45:28 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR  1.  Is  it  possible  to  attach  an address to a folder when
JR  "create  new  msg"  is selected? For example, I have a folder
JR  that gets all the msgs filtered from this list, If I click on
JR  the  "create  a  new msg" with my cursor on TBUDL folder, the
JR  correct  template  appears  but  I  still  have  to enter the
JR  address manually. Not that I'm that lazy, just curious.

Yes. In the new message template for the folder insert the following:
%To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Watch out however when hitting mailto: links in messages residing in
this folder. They will be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.

A more foolproof method would be to create an address book entry for
TBUDL, define templates for it and include it in your favourites menu by
ticking the favourites column box in the address book. Whenever you wish
to write a new message to the list, select TBUDL from your favourites
menu elicited by either hitting the little arrow on the new message
toolbar button or right clicking on the To: field in the editor window.

JR  2.  What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when
JR  importing  an  address  book  from  Outlook  Express.  I  see
JR  specific  formats  set  out  for  PegasusEurdora but not
JR  Outlook  Express  which  is  probably  the  most  widely used
JR  emailer [ at least in the U.S. ]

I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE users. :-)


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