Re[2]: 3 quickies
Hello Batlisters. In a post time stamped 22:17:35 +0700 re: 3 quickies Syafril Hermansyah wrote: SH if you still have the problem for the conversion, send me the SH *.csv file privately, then I will send you back *.abd file. Syafril, thanks very much for your very kind offer. I've managed to import the bulk of my OE address book where I need a name, I just add it from rcvd posts. I'm not completely sold on TB! so I'm maintaining OE on my machine as I evaluate TB!. Worse comes to worse I can always open OE find the person I'm looking for. Regards, Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 3 quickies
Hello Batlisters. In a post time stamped 22:54:46 +0200 re: 3 quickies ArekG wrote: A did you download Netscape Navigator instead of Netscape A Communicator? If answer is 'yes', you cannot get an address A book, because Navigator is stand-alone browser! Yes, I believe this is what I did because my *only* interest in Netscape was to test pages created for my website. I never anticipated using for any another purpose , at this juncture, I'm not sure it's worth the space on my drives which are already packed. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re:3 quickies
Hello Jan, On Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 2:51:45 PM, you wrote: JR Mark, I use IE (Internet Explorer) but downloaded JR Netscape for testing/compatibility purposes. It looks to JR me that I did not download the address book module. Jan, did you download Netscape Navigator instead of Netscape Communicator? If answer is 'yes', you cannot get an address book, because Navigator is stand-alone browser! In this case you should download Netscape Communicator (much bigger in size...) and then you will be able to do all those things Syafril has said about exporting address book from OE to TB!... -- Regards, ArekG [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Bezplatne konta pocztowe z radiowa dusza. http://poczta.fm -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Syafril, Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 3:43:34 AM, you wrote: SH Do as follow: SH - from OE, export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then SHexport to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose SHfields you want to convert). SH - From Netscape Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then SHexport to LDIF format. SH - From TB! address book import LDIF format. SH That's the way I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5 SH address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I SH send him back in *.abd file). I thought that the latest Netscape would import direct from OE5, don't have it installed ATM so I can't check. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Jan, Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 1:02:30 AM, you wrote: JR Mark, I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a JR couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find JR an LDIF converter. I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?) JR but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert JR my OE address book to the LDIF format. JR Can you lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many JR thanks. The procedure is on the site http://www.interguru.com/msieall.htm otherwise just open Netscape address book and import from OE5, this is a *.wab (windows address book) -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hello Gerd, Monday, October 09, 2000, 10:38:50 PM, Gerd Ewald wrote: Sorry, can't provide a better solution. But I remember having discussed a similar problem with someone off-list. I browsed my msgs but can't find out who it was. I wrote about a few days ago. Don't know you didn't notice it. Just export OE address book as Comma Separated Text and now import into TB! as Address List (Plaint text) from Address Book/File/Import Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hello Mark Aston, Responding to your article on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 at 07:10:02 GMT +0100 (which was 10/10/2000 13:10 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : SH Do as follow: SH - from OE, export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then SHexport to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose SHfields you want to convert). SH - From Netscape Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then SHexport to LDIF format. SH - From TB! address book import LDIF format. SH That's the way I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5 SH address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I SH send him back in *.abd file). MA I thought that the latest Netscape would import direct from OE5, don't MA have it installed ATM so I can't check. You right as far as OE5 installed at same PC with NS, for this case the procedure more simple, from Netscape Messanger Address Book just do "import from Outlook Express" then export to LDIF format. Commonly OE user not installed Netscape Messanger, so I ask him to send *.csv file, then send him back *.abd with instruction save at TB! default directory. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 16:15:15 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 3 quickies
Hello Batlisters. In a post time stamped 07:13:29 +0100 re: 3 quickies Mark Aston wrote: MA The procedure is on the site http://www.interguru.com/msieall.htm MA otherwise just open Netscape address book and import from OE5, this is MA a *.wab (windows address book) Mark, I use IE (Internet Explorer) but downloaded Netscape for testing/compatibility purposes. It looks to me that I did not download the address book module. On the interguru site, I had found the page you reference but it seems like it refers to Outlook not OEincludes the following description "(note: NOT Outlook express, which is a totally different animal). The Wabout link leads to a a site which describes it's product as a program to be used for importing IE records into Outlook. Let me say that I have exported from IE to CSV format was able to import it into TB! however, I was not able to import all the information that was exported from IE, such as Tel #, web page, etc. despite the fact that I set this up in the fields. Also Graham offered "Dawn" as a program to facilitate export-import process. My personal experience with Dawn was that I was not successful exporting to a Pegasus format importing into TB!. Undoubtedly, I took a wrong turn -- don't know where, however. So I take this opportunity to thank you all for your help. My conclusion, on day 20 of my TB! evaluation period, is that the TB! developers should make this transfer easier given the popularity of OE. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hello Jan Rifkinson, Responding to your article on Tue, 10 Oct 2000 at 08:51:45 GMT -0400 (which was 10/10/2000 19:51 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : JR Let me say that I have exported from IE to CSV format JR was able to import it into TB! however, I was not able JR to import all the information that was exported from IE, JR such as Tel #, web page, etc. despite the fact that I JR set this up in the fields. That's what I found here, so I recommend to use Netscape Messanger as "translation engine". 3-4 month ago, I had help more than 3 people to convert OE5 AB to TB!. JR So I take this opportunity to thank you all for your JR help. My conclusion, on day 20 of my TB! evaluation JR period, is that the TB! developers should make this JR transfer easier given the popularity of OE. While I agree this, if you still have the problem for the conversion, send me the *.csv file privately, then I will send you back *.abd file. -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 22:11:43 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 3 quickies
Hello A., Sunday, October 08, 2000, 2:14:28 AM, you wrote: JR 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see I've exported address book from Outlook express as Comma separated text. Then imported into TB! as Address List Plain text. It's done with success. Strange is, didn't work comma separated import in this case Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoop *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
3 quickies
Hello BatListers, Gerd wrote: Well, when I had to import the adresses from Outlook, I just exported any adress as Vcard from OE and imported the vcard in TB. Not very elegant, esp. when many adresses have to be imported. At least it worked :-) ! Thanks for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this, OE wanted me to select a single card. If I did this, I would be doing it all day as I have a rather large address book. Were you able to select a group of addresses at one time to export? If so, could you explain exactly what steps you took? Thanks very much. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan Rifkinson ! On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:55:24 -0400 GMT your local time, which was 09.10.2000, 21:55 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: Not very elegant, esp. when many adresses have to be imported. At least it worked :-) ! Thanks for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this, OE wanted me to select a single card. [...] + Yeah, that's what I meant with "...not very elegant...". It took me hours ! But at least it was less work than typing all in. Sorry, can't provide a better solution. But I remember having discussed a similar problem with someone off-list. I browsed my msgs but can't find out who it was. - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.47 Beta/7 - PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - - Erwerbsregel #10R Gier ist der Tod. - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOeIe2Ey/sHrVbGGHEQKJNwCfUcBKy09jvrFbStMVATw1oEhwF4kAnj8J OzmD6kjnLDTQCHQj4vhotvqi =iBGX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hi Jan, Monday, October 09, 2000, 8:55:24 PM, you wrote: JR Thanks for your help, Gerd. However, when I tried this, JR OE wanted me to select a single card. If I did this, I JR would be doing it all day as I have a rather large JR address book. Were you able to select a group of JR addresses at one time to export? If so, could you JR explain exactly what steps you took? Thanks very much. Try http://www.interguru.com/ convert your OE address book to LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to LDIF with similar results. -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46d Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 3 quickies
Hello Batlisters. In a post time stamped 22:23:38 +0100 re: 3 quickies Mark Aston wrote: Mark Try http://www.interguru.com/ convert your OE address book Mark to LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you Mark have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to Mark LDIF with similar results. Mark, I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find an LDIF converter. I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?) but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert my OE address book to the LDIF format. Can you lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many thanks. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
Hello Jan Rifkinson, Responding to your article on Mon, 9 Oct 2000 at 20:02:30 GMT -0400 (which was 10/10/2000 7:02 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : Mark Try http://www.interguru.com/ convert your OE address book Mark to LDIF which TB! can import without editing fields. If you Mark have a copy of Netscape you can import from OE and export to Mark LDIF with similar results. JR Mark, I appreciate your response but I'm still left w a JR couple of questions. At the interguru site I didn't find JR an LDIF converter. I have a copy of Netscape 4.08 (?) JR but being an IE person, I couldn't find a way to convert JR my OE address book to the LDIF format. JR Can you lead me through the Netscape alternative? Many JR thanks. Do as follow: - from OE, export to CSV format (go to Address Book, select all, then export to others address book, choose Comma Separate by Value, choose fields you want to convert). - From Netscape Messanger, Import address book from CSV format, then export to LDIF format. - From TB! address book import LDIF format. That's the way I did here when helping some friend to convert his OE5 address book to TB! (he just send me his address book in CSV file, and I send him back in *.abd file). -- Best regards, - Syafril - Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company: Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL: http://www.dutaint.co.id Using The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 Created : Tuesday, October 10, 2000, 9:38:13 GMT +0700 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]
Hello BatListers. In a post time stamped 19:14:28 -0500 re: 3 quickies A Curtis Martin wrote: JR 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see JR specific formats set out for PegasusEurdora but not JR Outlook Express which is probably the most widely used JR emailer [ at least in the U.S. ] A. I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE A. users. :-) Is there someone who has made the transition from Outlook Express to TB! who can answer the above question? Many thanks. Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]
On Sunday, October 08, 2000, 2:15:20 PM, Jan wrote: JR 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR importing an address book from Outlook Express. A. I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE A. users. :-) Is there someone who has made the transition from Outlook Express to TB! who can answer the above question? Many thanks. Sorry, not that I'm dodging the call to serve my country...ehhh, fellow Batmen, it's just that I don't know the answer. While I took great pain importing all my old mail into TB, I purposefully left my old address book (which was in a mess anyway) behind. So, maybe someone else could pick this one up. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.47 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: 3 quickies [ now 1 quickie ]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan, Your best bet is to get a copy of Dawn, which is a program that can convert your OE address book from OE format to one of a number (including from memory, Pegasus) that could be recognised by TB. Its freeware and available from a number of software libraries. I seem to remember seeing it on Softseek (www.softseek.com). Graham *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 08/10/00 at 17:15 Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see JR specific formats set out for PegasusEurdora but not JR Outlook Express which is probably the most widely used JR emailer [ at least in the U.S. ] A. I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE A. users. :-) Is there someone who has made the transition from Outlook Express to TB! who can answer the above question? Many thanks. Jan Rifkinson PGP Keys on keyserver Ldap://certserver.pgp.com Key ID 0x5273E2CD (RSA) Key ID 0x99DB10BD (DH/DSS) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Encrypted with PGP Plugin for Calypso Comment: PGP 6.5.8 for verification of sender and internet security iQA/AwUBOeDyjS7i2PqZ2xC9EQJoQgCfcaLTfNsg383ckVaKJIncGQy7bRoAoO/C Xl/GMXZntixH/8TEczOVtTJx =UmNF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
3 quickies
Hello BatListers, 1. Is it possible to attach an address to a folder when "create new msg" is selected? For example, I have a folder that gets all the msgs filtered from this list, If I click on the "create a new msg" with my cursor on TBUDL folder, the correct template appears but I still have to enter the address manually. Not that I'm that lazy, just curious. 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see specific formats set out for PegasusEurdora but not Outlook Express which is probably the most widely used emailer [ at least in the U.S. ] 3. Am I the only person who finds TB! address book a little squirrely? For example, when searching for a name it doesn't seem to include the separate sub-folders in the search. Is there a setting that I've missed perhaps? Thanks regards, Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 19:45:28 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR 1. Is it possible to attach an address to a folder when JR "create new msg" is selected? For example, I have a folder JR that gets all the msgs filtered from this list, If I click on JR the "create a new msg" with my cursor on TBUDL folder, the JR correct template appears but I still have to enter the JR address manually. Not that I'm that lazy, just curious. Yes. In the new message template for the folder insert the following: %To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Watch out however when hitting mailto: links in messages residing in this folder. They will be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. A more foolproof method would be to create an address book entry for TBUDL, define templates for it and include it in your favourites menu by ticking the favourites column box in the address book. Whenever you wish to write a new message to the list, select TBUDL from your favourites menu elicited by either hitting the little arrow on the new message toolbar button or right clicking on the To: field in the editor window. JR 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see JR specific formats set out for PegasusEurdora but not JR Outlook Express which is probably the most widely used JR emailer [ at least in the U.S. ] I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE users. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "DILATE: To live longer. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOd+8ZPAXeSHuB5k3EQIX2ACg30MD0wt8BkdPcdGgOeDQmwYKrvMAn1kW 2JB3woxjO53OCRHc6IM6BesV =Wf3L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org