Re: Desktop Search Tools
On Monday, May 23, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz cleverly scripted: > I found it works best when you set it to index messages on exiting TB. Greetings Alexander S. Kunz, 16:06, Monday, May 23, 2005 Yes, that's the way it is supposed to work, but it seems to need help getting started. It didn't automatically index everything when I configured it to do so and then closed TB down to force it to start. Not sure why, but it seemed to go better when I forced the re-indexing manually. Hopefully, this will be useful feedback for the author. -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: Chuck Loeb - I Got It Bad (And That Ain't Good) -- Random Quote Tagline -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. - Albert Einstein, 1879-1955 Mail Handler : ^o^ The_Bat! v3.0.1.33 ^o^ The OS: Windows XP_pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2. Spam Filter : Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2. Gatekeeper: Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5. Virus Sniffer : Symantec Corporate Edition v9.0. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Gary Lucas & everyone else, on 23-Mai-2005 at 21:53 you (Gary Lucas) wrote: > I re-indexed four times before the count of mail messages appeared to > asymptote on the GDS status page, so the plugin still needs some > tweaking. However, the searches are quick once the indexes are in place. > This looks like a very promising tool. I found it works best when you set it to index messages on exiting TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Whistler's Law: You never know who's right, but you always know who's in charge. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
On Sunday, May 22, 2005, Steve Caine cleverly scripted: > I can confirm, though, that it works fine with Firefox 1.0.4. I'm > using that as my browser along with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 and Google > Desktop Search The Bat! Version: 1.0.0.7. Greetings Steve and All, 14:34, Monday, May 23, 2005 I can confirm that this combination works. Firefox, The Bat 3.0.1.33, the GDS plugin 1.0.07 for The Bat, Win XP pro. The initial behavior was a little strange. After I configured the plugin in TB and forced an initial "re-index" only a small number of the mail indexes showed up in GDS. GDS updates in the background and so it takes a while, but the process seemed to stall after a few thousand messages were indexed. I went back to plugin configuration re-indexed again and another thousand mail messages showed in the GDS count almost immediately. I re-indexed four times before the count of mail messages appeared to asymptote on the GDS status page, so the plugin still needs some tweaking. However, the searches are quick once the indexes are in place. This looks like a very promising tool. -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: Theo Bishop - Walk With Me -- Random Quote Tagline -- Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are dead. - Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963 Mail Handler : ^o^ The_Bat! v3.0.1.33 ^o^ The OS: Windows XP_pro 5.1 Build 2600 SP2. Spam Filter : Achim's Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2. Gatekeeper: Sygate Personal Firewall v5.5. Virus Sniffer : Symantec Corporate Edition v9.0. Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Steve Caine & everyone else, on 23-Mai-2005 at 05:01 you (Steve Caine) wrote: >> Though not directly related to TB, a warning about Google Desktop since >> many of you are using Opera as their browser: once you installed Google >> Desktop search, you can't access the normal Google webpages thru Opera. >> Seems like Google programmed their local proxy to work only with IE. :-( > I can confirm, though, that it works fine with Firefox 1.0.4. I'm > using that as my browser along with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 and Google > Desktop Search The Bat! Version: 1.0.0.7. Extremely odd... I tried again @ work today... and it works there. Maybe because I'm connecting thru a proxy at work all the time. Either way, it needs improvement. :-) 'nuff OT. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed. -- Albert Einstein Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
On 5/22/05, Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Though not directly related to TB, a warning about Google Desktop since > many of you are using Opera as their browser: once you installed Google > Desktop search, you can't access the normal Google webpages thru Opera. > Seems like Google programmed their local proxy to work only with IE. :-( I can confirm, though, that it works fine with Firefox 1.0.4. I'm using that as my browser along with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 and Google Desktop Search The Bat! Version: 1.0.0.7. Steve. -- Steve Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Steve Thomas & everyone else, on 11-Mai-2005 at 15:45 you (Steve Thomas) wrote: > Are there any desktop search tools that can search TB message files? I'm > thinking in terms of Google or Yahoo desktop search engines. Though not directly related to TB, a warning about Google Desktop since many of you are using Opera as their browser: once you installed Google Desktop search, you can't access the normal Google webpages thru Opera. Seems like Google programmed their local proxy to work only with IE. :-( -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "Monkey turbulence" (5:34) by Ltd. Noise from the album 'About 8 Minutes' Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl & everyone else, on 12-Mai-2005 at 21:44 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote: >> You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, > I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. Looks like this regsvr32 commandline tries to add an entry to the TBPlugin.ini file (in TB's mail directory). Can you check your ini file if the entry was added? If OTFE is used and the mailbase is crypted, maybe the ini file has a different name, or the file itself is crypted, too, so the plugin can't be added by the installer. The relevant part of it here is... .- | [Plugins] | Count=3 | Plugin #1=%PROGRAMDIR%\plugins\mymacros.tbp | Plugin #2=%PROGRAMDIR%\plugins\XMP.tbp | Plugin #3=C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search The Bat! Plug-In\GoogleDesktopSearchTheBat.dll | | [Plugin Data] | Plugin #1=:ACECZ3V0ZW4gdGFnDQpoaQ0KaGVsbG8NCmhhbGxvDQpvbg0KAQACAgkCYnllDQotLQ0KAwAC | Plugin #3=:DfCtugABAAD//wwA | `- I don't know what the "plugin data" section is, maybe it is only configuration settings? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) All the strength and force of man comes from his faith in things unseen. -- J. F. Clark Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Desktop Search Tools)
Hallo Steve, On Thu, 12 May 2005 22:02:56 +0100GMT (12-5-2005, 23:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SL> test it I will gladly do it. SL> Best wishes, SL> Steve Lee SL> http://jumbocruiser.com SL> Tel +44 7768 211612 SL> SL> Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Steve. )<)))'> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. -- Groetjes, Roelof Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpri96Os62Rf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Desktop Search Tools
>> Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. > > I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. I also have the Pro version and can not get it to work. Real shame. If the author would like me to pay for an upgrade to Pro so he can test it I will gladly do it. Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Alexander, On 12 May 2005, 16:32 you wrote: >> I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed >> under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? >> If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? > You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, > regsvr32 /s GoogleDesktopCantRemember.dll - make sure that TB is NOT > running when you do this. When you're done and you restart TB the plugin > will be automatically added (at least thats how it was here - how this > works I don't know, but it works). > Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. I tried this but no joy. Thanks anyway. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "There are no hopeless situations: there are only men who have grown hopeless about them." CLAIRE BOOTH LUCE ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC8 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Martin Webster on tbudl & everyone else, on 12-Mai-2005 at 00:10 you (Martin Webster on tbudl) wrote: >> So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! > I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed > under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? > If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? You have to use the cmdline function described in the thread on Google, regsvr32 /s GoogleDesktopCantRemember.dll - make sure that TB is NOT running when you do this. When you're done and you restart TB the plugin will be automatically added (at least thats how it was here - how this works I don't know, but it works). Can't say anything about Pro with OTFE I'm using the Home version of TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I don't believe in the generation gap. I believe in Regeneration gaps. Every day you regenerate, or else you're not living. (Duke Ellington) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Martin, On 12 May 2005 at 23:10:57 GMT +0100 (which was 00:10:57 where I live), Martin Webster on tbudl wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of "Desktop Search Tools": > Hello Alexander, > On 11 May 2005, 21:01 you wrote: >> So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! > I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is > listed under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! > plug-in? If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a > TBP file? I've installed the plug-in too but it doesn't show me any folders. I think it's because I'm using OTFE and the plug-in doesn't support it (yet??). -- Best regards, Dick ___ In earlier times, they had no statistics, and so they had to fall back on lies.-- Stephen Leacock Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Privacy is your right...only if you defend it: http://www.metropipe.net/landing.cgi?id=cloggy Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Alexander, On 11 May 2005, 21:01 you wrote: > So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! I've installed it but it hasn't indexed TB! at all. The plug-in is listed under Google Desktop preferences; should it be listed as a TB! plug-in? If so, how do I do this since it comes with a DLL and not a TBP file? -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "The business of everybody is the business of nobody." LORD MCCAULAY ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.5 Return RC8 IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Elis Bruce-Konuah & everyone else, on 11-Mai-2005 at 20:31 you (Elis Bruce-Konuah) wrote: > If anybody does try it, I'd be interested to hear your results. All right... that "index upon receive" option is not so good. :-) It'll index message before they arrive in TB's messagebase, and thus before they arrive at their final destination folder (if using filters). For mailing lists where you get your own messages sent back to you it may be irritating that you'll find one and the same message twice - one in your Sent mail folder and the other that you received back. I don't think this can be avoided. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I am going to record the facts for the information of God. He knows the facts, but he does not know this version of the facts. -- Leo Szilard Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Elis Bruce-Konuah & everyone else, on 11-Mai-2005 at 20:31 you (Elis Bruce-Konuah) wrote: > I haven't tried this myself, but a plugin does apparently exist: Great! Thanks for finding it. > http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/GoogleDesktopSearchTheBatInstaller.exe The D/L crawled at 1kb/s but I got it. > If anybody does try it, I'd be interested to hear your results. So far it works; both the indexing and the searching are very fast - nice! I've yet to try how it works on indexing newly arrived messages. What I'm missing is a "view in The Bat" option as it is with the native Outlook support. I don't know if that can be done with TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Microsoftophobia: the fear that software upgrades will force a hardware upgrade (David Calvarese) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Alexander S. Kunz said: > Hello Steve Thomas & everyone else, > > on 11-Mai-2005 at 15:45 you (Steve Thomas) wrote: > >> Are there any desktop search tools that can search TB message files? I'm >> thinking in terms of Google or Yahoo desktop search engines. > > Having TB messagebases indexed by Google desktop search would be ace. > Seeing that a lot of plugins for Google desktop already exist (mp3 and > whatnot), maybe someone can develop a TB plugin... :-) > I haven't tried this myself, but a plugin does apparently exist: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Google-Desktop-Developer/browse_thread/thread/cc25042dfb97be8d/9d75dd65ac40548a BEGIN QUOTE Everybody, forget about that bugggy alpha, there was a bug with The Bat! version detection. Great News, I will not able to work on a plug-in for a month or maybe two, I thought that I will improve plug-in quality with beta testing, but my job said no. :) Well, today I did spent several hours in searching for bugs and making release version. I've just finished testing it, and didn't meet a bug. :) Now I'm absolutelly sure that nobody will have problems with installation, and I even submited plug-in to google. There is a little lame documentation even inside. http://www.vgirlos2.narod.ru/GoogleDesktopSearchTheBatInstaller.exe Damn! I gotta find a better job. :) END QUOTE If anybody does try it, I'd be interested to hear your results. Regards Elis -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
Hello Steve Thomas & everyone else, on 11-Mai-2005 at 15:45 you (Steve Thomas) wrote: > Are there any desktop search tools that can search TB message files? I'm > thinking in terms of Google or Yahoo desktop search engines. Having TB messagebases indexed by Google desktop search would be ace. Seeing that a lot of plugins for Google desktop already exist (mp3 and whatnot), maybe someone can develop a TB plugin... :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) We need utopias. Without utopias the world would not change. -- Thornton Wilder Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Tools
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Desktop Search Tools
Hello tbudl, Are there any desktop search tools that can search TB message files? I'm thinking in terms of Google or Yahoo desktop search engines. -- Best regards, Steve "I know no class of my fellowmen, however just, enlightened, and humane, which can be wisely and safely trusted absolutely with the liberties of any other class." = Fredrick Douglass TB! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
