Re: Upgrade to new version
On Monday, November 13, 2017 thus spake Maxim: MM> Version 8 keys are backwards-compatible for version 7 as well. Hello Maxim, Can I roll-back to v7.x? (In another post I cited a show-stopping issue w/ v8.0.10) Best regards, RG -- Using The Bat! email program version 8.0.10 Random tagline: It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice; there are two other possibilities, one is paperwork and the other is nostalgia." - Frank Zappa Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to new version
Wednesday, November 15, 2017, 5:03:06 PM, you wrote: > No problem here. It kept all the settings seamlessly. thanks Paul, installing over the top worked fine for me too. -- Tom using TheBat! 8.0.10 on Win7 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to new version
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Wednesday, November 15, 2017, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote: T> Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote: >> on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:44 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: MM>>> After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually MM>>> create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The MM>>> Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar. T> Peter, T> thanks but I am confused. This explains how the program is easily T> started after the installation. I am wondering how to install the new T> version. The idea is of course that my existing accounts, templates T> and other customizations remain. That's why I asked if I need to T> uninstall first, then install and import a backup or if I can install T> over the existing program. No problem here. It kept all the settings seamlessly. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v8.0.8 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Time flies like an arrow - Fruit flies like a banana Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to new version
Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote: > on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:44 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: MM>> After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually MM>> create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The MM>> Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar. Peter, thanks but I am confused. This explains how the program is easily started after the installation. I am wondering how to install the new version. The idea is of course that my existing accounts, templates and other customizations remain. That's why I asked if I need to uninstall first, then install and import a backup or if I can install over the existing program. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on Win7 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to new version
Hello Tom, First, buy the version 8 registration key and enter it for your version 7 registration. Version 8 keys are backwards-compatible for version 7 as well. Make sure that The Bat! 7 displays your version 8 key, it should tell in the about box that the registration key is valid until version 8.9. Then, download and install the version 8 .MSI file. Don't uninstall anything. Version 8 will update all the program files and will keep using your data files. If you like to pin The Bat! to the Windows Taskbar, the icon will no longer be valid. To make it survive installations of the new versions, do the following, once. After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Director Ritlabs, SRL www.ritlabs.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade to new version
Hello Everyone, I notice a new version has come out and wonder what the recommended upgrade procedure is. In the past I sometimes had to move the program to a new pc but in this case I will do the update / upgrade on the same pc. Can I install over the top or is is recommended to uninstall and reinstall? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 4.2.33.9 on Win 7Prof, 64bit Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hello Geoff, On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 05:55:25 +0100 GMT (08-Sep-15, 11:55 +0700 GMT), Geoff Lane wrote: > I've looked first thing each morning since, and it seems that the > option "auto re-enables" every day :( Consider this customer service. The system knows what you want before you ask. Ritlabs has learned from Apple: http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/apple-hiring-more-artificial-intelligence-experts-as-it-takes-aims-at-google/ (Sorry mods, could not resist. Feel free to throw the fish my way.) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Using The Bat! 5.8.8 on Windows Vista Build 6002 On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 9:22:40 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: > Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for > updates when The Bat! starts Arghh! I unchecked this option. I then closed and reopened the Options dialog box to see if it was still unchecked (it was). However, the "New version available" message has since reappeared. On opening the Options dialog box, I noted that the "check for updates" option has somehow been enabled again. I've looked first thing each morning since, and it seems that the option "auto re-enables" every day :( -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hello Jack, On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 15:34:18 -0500 GMT (08-Sep-15, 03:34 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: > Hello Leonard, > On Monday, September 07, 2015 you wrote: LSB>> On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 12:54:39 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: >>> I too am running 5.2.2 and I found the trigger here: >>> OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - UPDATES (right above "Other options") LSB>> Thanks. I see it now. It is already checked, but I do not receive any LSB>> update information when TheBat starts. > Out of curiosity I ticked the box for "Check for updates when the Bat starts" > the closed TB! and re-started it. No update information here either. Perhaps > it happens only *when* they announce a new version? I believe it only checks when TB! is opened for the first time on that day. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hello Leonard, On Monday, September 07, 2015 you wrote: LSB> On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 12:54:39 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: >> I too am running 5.2.2 and I found the trigger here: >> OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - UPDATES (right above "Other options") LSB> Thanks. I see it now. It is already checked, but I do not receive any LSB> update information when TheBat starts. Out of curiosity I ticked the box for "Check for updates when the Bat starts" the closed TB! and re-started it. No update information here either. Perhaps it happens only *when* they announce a new version? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver 5.2.2, OS: Windows 7 Pro ver 6, build 7601, Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 12:54:39 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > I too am running 5.2.2 and I found the trigger here: > OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - UPDATES (right above "Other options") Thanks. I see it now. It is already checked, but I do not receive any update information when TheBat starts. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hi Geoff, on Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0100GMT (06.09.2015, 09:34 +0200GMT here), you wrote: GL> Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box GL> appearing whenever I open TB? Options - Preferences - Other Options - [ ]Check for updates when The Bat! starts -- Cheers Peter Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Using The Bat! 5.8.8 on Windows Vista Build 6002 On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 9:22:40 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: > on Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0100GMT (06.09.2015, 09:34 +0100GMT here), > Geoff Lane wrote: GL>> Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box GL>> appearing whenever I open TB? > Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for > updates when The Bat! starts Many thanks -- much appreciated. -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"New version available" dialog box
Hi All, Every time I open TB, a "New version available" dialog box appears. This includes a checkbox to check for new versions. However, even when I've clear this before either going to the download page or clicking Cancel in the dialog box, this dialog box still appears each time I open TB! I get the same behaviour when using TB on my Windows 7 computer, so it's not just this one machine. Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box appearing whenever I open TB? TIA, -- Geoff Using The Bat! Pro 5.8.8 on Windows Vista build 6002 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hi Geoff, on Sun, 6 Sep 2015 08:34:14 +0100GMT (06.09.2015, 09:34 +0100GMT here), Geoff Lane wrote: GL> Is there a registry hack or other way to stop this dialog box GL> appearing whenever I open TB? Sorry, forgot one step: Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for updates when The Bat! starts -- Cheers Peter Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. Samuel Butler (1612-1680) Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Using The Bat! 5.8.8 on Windows Vista Build 6002 On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 5:00:23 PM, Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote: > I am on 5.2.2. I do not have the Update Entry. What version do I need > for that entry? I'm on 5.8.8 and the update option is there for that version. It wasn't for the version of TB 5 for which I upgrated. IIRC, 5.8.8 was the latest stable version of TB5 last time I checked and I don't want to buy a licence for version 6 or 7. > What would be an upgrade path to the current version? https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/upgrade_policy.php should have the information you seek. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
Hello Leonard, On Sunday, September 06, 2015 you wrote: LSB> On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 4:22:40 AM, Peter Meyers (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: >> Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for >> updates when The Bat! starts LSB> I am on 5.2.2. I do not have the Update Entry. What version do I need LSB> for that entry? LSB> What would be an upgrade path to the current version? LSB> Thank you. I too am running 5.2.2 and I found the trigger here: OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - UPDATES (right above "Other options") -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver 5.2.2, OS: Windows 7 Pro ver 6, build 7601, Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "New version available" dialog box
On Sunday, September 6, 2015, 4:22:40 AM, Peter Meyers (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote: > Options - Preferences - Other Options - Confirmations - [ ]Check for > updates when The Bat! starts I am on 5.2.2. I do not have the Update Entry. What version do I need for that entry? What would be an upgrade path to the current version? Thank you. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Using The Bat! v5.2.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version?
I'd written for help because after reinstalling The Bat (when I had to also reinstall my Windows 7 operating system), the Preferences window would not enlarge and would not allow me to make any changes. Basically, no one had a suggestion that worked, so I guess I'm going to try to solve the problem by upgrading to a new version of The Bat. I'm currently using 4.2.44.2. Does anyone have a suggestion as to which version is the most stable? The current version seems to be 6.3.2, but when I try to see what's new in that version, the link is broken. That doesn't make me feel very comfortable about that version. Thanks. Mike Greenbaum Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version?
Hello Mike, Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 2:48:35 PM, you wrote: I'd written for help because after reinstalling The Bat (when I had to also reinstall my Windows 7 operating system), the Preferences window would not enlarge and would not allow me to make any changes. Basically, no one had a suggestion that worked, so I guess I'm going to try to solve the problem by upgrading to a new version of The Bat. I'm currently using 4.2.44.2. Does anyone have a suggestion as to which version is the most stable? The current version seems to be 6.3.2, but when I try to see what's new in that version, the link is broken. That doesn't make me feel very comfortable about that version. Thanks. Mike Greenbaum Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Hi Mike, I'm using v5.8.8 and haven't had any problem. Did consider upgrading awhile back, but found this version better. Karla -- Best regards, Cafe Noir mailto:cafe.n...@mail.ru Secure Email Natural Health http://pobox.com/~potentia http://www.63y.in Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version 4.0.24
Does anyone know whether the earlier bug in 4.0.11, 4.0.14 and 4.0.18 has been fixed in this new version? The bug in Windows XP meant that when you right-click on a file in windows explorer to send to The Bat, it opened The Bat but did not open a new email with the attachment in it. Then when you tried to quit, it would not do so; you had to use Task Manager to close it. In February I put in a bug report, and got the reply that this was a known bug and was being fixed. So went back to 3.99.25. Tried 4.0.18 but it had the same problem, so carefully uninstalled 4.0.18 and went back to 3.99.25. Today tried to contact the Support site to confirm whether the bug is now fixed, but the Support site seems to have gone. If anyone knows, it would save a lot of trouble in uninstalling and reinstalling. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...I have a rock garden. Three of them died last week. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version 4.0.24
Does anyone know whether the earlier bug in 4.0.11, 4.0.14 and 4.0.18 has been fixed in this new version? The bug in Windows XP meant that when you right-click on a file in windows explorer to send to The Bat, it opened The Bat but did not open a new email with the attachment in it. Then when you tried to quit, it would not do so; you had to use Task Manager to close it. If anyone knows, it would save a lot of trouble in uninstalling and reinstalling. Works like a charm now. Fixed. THe only thing is the message window stays in back of the main window and you have to click it to get it to the front -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version 4.0.24
Hello Rick, On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:04:03 -0400 GMT (25/04/2008, 08:04 +0700 GMT), Rick wrote: R Works like a charm now. Fixed. THe only thing is the message window R stays in back of the main window and you have to click it to get it to R the front Confirmed. But if you choose Send To / Mail Recipient, the editor winow opens correctly in the front. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: When foreigners are alone, they all prefer to speak English to each other. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.24 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version 4.0.24
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thursday, April 24, 2008, 5:22:47 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Rick, TF On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:04:03 -0400 GMT (25/04/2008, 08:04 +0700 GMT), TF Rick wrote: R Works like a charm now. Fixed. THe only thing is the message window R stays in back of the main window and you have to click it to get it to R the front TF Confirmed. But if you choose Send To / Mail Recipient, the editor TF winow opens correctly in the front. Thank you and Rick for your quick reply. Have now updated and all seems to work perfectly. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v4.0.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Always remember that you are unique, just like everyone else. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anybody know when V4 is supposed to be released? Thanks Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) Charset: us-ascii wj8DBQFHeOAdqrjyIUpt6bgRAvR5AJ4mYeGeQQPteQ4yO+5zGbD7WwKfdgCaAno0 7PUrKHcViOD1RENCbG93+v4= =7O/E -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version
Hello all, Monday, December 31, 2007, Richard wrote: Anybody know when V4 is supposed to be released? we are in alpha stage and beta stage is soon, as I think, we can expect it in january 2008 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.5 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
%SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% LLM --^ LLM Isn't there a « - » missing there? I would have written : LLM %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)%- Even if I delete the Rogue line in the template LLM This is not what asked... Sorry, I didn't understood. I don't understand anymore... ;-) What are you talking about ? @ -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
I've found the origin of the problem : the %CURSOR in the template becomes @ in the editor ! ASK From the wrapping of your message I assume you are using the Windows ASK editor? ASK But anyway... I just set my editor prefs to the Windows Editor (I normally ASK use MicroEd), and I don't have any @ where the %CURSOR macro is. ASK Are you absolutely sure that you haven't defined another reply template, ASK for example if you have an addressbook entry in TB, or a folder template, ASK or... ? Sure ! I 've made a test and insert the string TEST in the template I use to be sure. I can see TEST and @ I've made an other test : I 've deleted the template, and directly type %CURSOR in properties of the account at \template\new message... Same thong occurs : a @ instead of the Cursor ! @ -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
ASK Is it this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5256 maybe? Exactly what I have ! If I switch to Micro Ed for new mail instead of HTML/PlainText, the problem doesn't occur ! It seems to be fixed in 3.62.07... I just had a look at Ritlabs Web Site, but the version available is always the version of 28 oct. that I downloaded it 2 days ago and it was the 3.62.05. How can I reach the 3.62.07 that bugtrack say this problem is solved in it ? I hope it is not a beta... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello WilWilWil everyone else, on 31-Okt-2005 at 18:29 you (WilWilWil) wrote: ASK Is it this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5256 maybe? Exactly what I have ! If I switch to Micro Ed for new mail instead of HTML/PlainText, the problem doesn't occur ! It seems to be fixed in 3.62.07... I just had a look at Ritlabs Web Site, but the version available is always the version of 28 oct. that I downloaded it 2 days ago and it was the 3.62.05. How can I reach the 3.62.07 that bugtrack say this problem is solved in it ? I hope it is not a beta... No its not. They silently replaced the MSI with a more recent version. If you download it now, you'll get 3.62.08 btw. Funny thing is that I complained about that yesterday evening, describing (in theory) exactly what has happened to you now. 9Val, do you read this? ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good. Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
ASK No its not. They silently replaced the MSI with a more recent version. Silent release... Not nice method for user that want to follow the releases because have bugs to solved... ;-) I try it and come back in few minutes... Thanks for advice. -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello Alexander, 9Val, do you read this? ;-) I believe he reads only TBBeta, but I'm not sure. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.08 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Well... Come back with version 3.62.08, and with my favorite character as you can see below ! :- Thank you Rit ! :-) @ -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.08 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello all, Monday, October 31, 2005, WilWilWil wrote: Well... Come back with version 3.62.08, and with my favorite character as you can see below ! :- Thank you Rit ! :-) @ it is fixed in 3.62.09, wait for it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.62.08 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
MM it is fixed in 3.62.09, wait for it. Who knows when a silent release is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php How can I know that systematically ? TBBETA ? -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.08 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello all, Monday, October 31, 2005, WilWilWil wrote: MM it is fixed in 3.62.09, wait for it. Who knows when a silent release is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php How can I know that systematically ? TBBETA ? .08 build had one specific bugfix, next build has many fixes and I expect, it will be announced. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.62.08 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
ON Monday, October 31, 2005, 7:24:00 PM, you wrote: MM .08 build had one specific bugfix, next build has many fixes and I MM expect, it will be announced. Loudly? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. - Bertrand Russell - Using The Bat! v3.62.05 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hi, On Monday, October 31, 2005 at 6:19:05 PM, WilWilWil wrote: LLM This is not what asked... Sorry, I didn't understood. I don't understand anymore... ;-) What are you talking about ? I spoke about the « - » missing at the end, not about the rogue line. You wrote : ',- [ ] '| %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% `- I suggested : ',- [ ] '| %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)%- `- -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.62.07 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
W 3- I don't understand why all new mails begin with the character W @ just before the cursor in the new blank editor. :-( RO Could you post us your template? Thanks, here it is (seems that the @ replace the %cursor) : %CURSOR -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB %THEBATVERSION %BAYESITVERSION %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSCSDVERSION %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% %Language=FR %ACCOUNT=WilWilWil -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hi, On Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 12:41:32 PM, WilWilWil wrote: %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% --^ Isn't there a « - » missing there? I would have written : %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)%- instead. -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.62.05 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
%SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% LLM --^ LLM Isn't there a « - » missing there? I would have written : LLM %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)%- Even if I delete the Rogue line in the template, the @ appears in the editor when I create a new mail... -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
I've found the origin of the problem : the %CURSOR in the template becomes @ in the editor ! What can I do ? Second problem : if I delete the template in preferences of account for new mail, I can't create a mail anymore with this account ! %BLANK does not work too ! I'm tired of always new bugs on new versions ! @ -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hi, On Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 4:11:52 PM, WilWilWil wrote: %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)% LLM --^ LLM Isn't there a « - » missing there? I would have written : LLM %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:wilwilwil:)%- Even if I delete the Rogue line in the template This is not what asked... -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.62.07 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello WilWilWil everyone else, on 30-Okt-2005 at 16:24 you (WilWilWil) wrote: I've found the origin of the problem : the %CURSOR in the template becomes @ in the editor ! From the wrapping of your message I assume you are using the Windows editor? But anyway... I just set my editor prefs to the Windows Editor (I normally use MicroEd), and I don't have any @ where the %CURSOR macro is. Are you absolutely sure that you haven't defined another reply template, for example if you have an addressbook entry in TB, or a folder template, or... ? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Suppose you were an idiot... and suppose you were a member of congress... but I repeat myself. (Mark Twain) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello WilWilWil everyone else, on 29-Okt-2005 at 17:37 you (WilWilWil) wrote: 3- I don't understand why all new mails begin with the character @ just before the cursor in the new blank editor. :-( Is it this: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5256 maybe? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Inverse (3:40) by Black Star Liner from the 2000 album 'Interior Horizons' Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hello, 1- I'm very happy because I can copy / paste from Word to TB again without any bug or lost of characters ! :-) 2- I'm disappointed because the awful blue cells when reply HTML mails is always there ! :-( 3- I don't understand why all new mails begin with the character @ just before the cursor in the new blank editor. :-( Bye -- WilWilWil :flag-france: TB 3.62.05 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New Version 3.62.05 : one bug solved, one bug staying, one bug appears
Hallo Wil, On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:37:50 +0200GMT (29-10-2005, 18:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W 3- I don't understand why all new mails begin with the character W @ just before the cursor in the new blank editor. :-( Could you post us your template? -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easy to propose impossible remedies. The Bat! 3.62.05 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpi0j6zU0wv0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new version minimal glyphs
Hello Bat Lovers, Friday, August 19, 2005, 2:08:06 PM, you wrote: A.Translator Miroslav Florensen has finished a new version of this clean and A.Translator elegant minimal glyphs, meant for TB! 3.5 and later. Thanks for this link, the Glyph is excellent! Help me. How exactly do you use GLYPH's in v3.5x? I have copied BMP file to bat directory where thebat.exe resides but nothing happens. -- Chuck Smith Using The Bat! 3.60.02 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 [uptime :: 0d 0h 32m] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new version minimal glyphs
Chuck Smith drukte met precisie uit : I have copied BMP file to bat directory where thebat.exe resides but nothing happens. I don't know about other glyphs, but this is what you do with the minimal ones: Close TB! Copy both minimal.png and minimal-small.png to the TB directory, choose a size (I like the middle 24 x 24) open the folder and copy the batskin.xml you'll find inside also to your TB directory. Start TB! up again. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new version minimal glyphs
Hello Chuck, Help me. How exactly do you use GLYPH's in v3.5x? you can use your own Glyph Set, by using the Batskin.xml. You find a documentation of the Batskin.XML file here: http://thebat.zetema.de/batskin_docu_en.html (English) http://thebat.zetema.de/batskin_docu_de.html (German) If you need only the Batskin.xml: [3 KB] http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/batskin_XML_org_360.zip You can use this Glyph Set as a template, there is a install instruction inside the Zip-archiv: [126 KB] http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/glyphs_original_350.zip At present there are only few Glyph Sets, which were adapted for the version v3.5 and higher. Here you find an overview: http://thebat.zetema.de/glyphs.html -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new version minimal glyphs
Hello rich gregory everyone else, on 20-Aug-2005 at 18:58 you (rich gregory) wrote: So I take it 3.x glyphs will not work under v2.12? Correct. The v2 versions used the glyphs.bmp file, v3 however uses an entirely new system, allowing for different icons sizes and such. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Kids get ideas about UFO's where I learned about sex: the tabloids and the sleazy press. -- J. Allen Hynek Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new version minimal glyphs
Hello Rich, So I take it 3.x glyphs will not work under v2.12? you can take this Glyph Set for TheBat! v1.x/v2.x [29 KB] http://thebat.zetema.de/zip/glyph_original_v3_to_v2.zip I adapted the v3 Glyph for Version v1/v2, unfortunately the quality is not the best. Preview: http://thebat.zetema.de/original.html#v3tov2 -- Best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.zetema.de/bat-mail.xml Klipfolio Klip: http://thebat.zetema.de/klipfolio Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
new version minimal glyphs
Miroslav Florensen has finished a new version of this clean and elegant minimal glyphs, meant for TB! 3.5 and later. see: http://bat-mail.de.vu Enjoy! -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:31:24 -0400 GMT (06/08/2005, 23:31 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM Can I do that now(close TB and double-click on that file), or should I HJM wait until after I have set-up all my other accounts? You should have done that before setting up accounts, because it would have saved you work. Now that you have set them up already, I wouldn't reimport the old registry key any more, because you will lose the info you have already typed in. The registry key will be overwritten. Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue setting up accounts. That's my advice. -- Cheers, Thomas. Xerox: The Original Copycats Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:15:00 -0400 GMT (08/08/2005, 01:15 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Since TB is running on your machine now, just go ahead and continue setting up accounts. That's my advice. HJM Or what that means, either. It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. -- Cheers, Thomas. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hallo Jack, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. JM But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file with your registration key that I extracted from it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, vidi, vacuum, (I came, I saw--nothing.) The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaxsvLmVbjG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version of The Bat won't load!
Sunday, August 7, 2005, 5:30:54 PM, you wrote: Hallo Jack, On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:13:36 -0400GMT (7-8-2005, 21:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: It means, just go ahead with what you are doing anyway. Forget about the registry key (that .reg file) you have. You don't need it any more and would cause damage if you double-clicked on it now. JM But I've *already* clicked on it, as requested. Thomas meant the full registry back-up for TB. Not the single key file with your registration key that I extracted from it. Okay. Thanks for the clarification. -- Best regards, Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hallo Handsome, On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (5-8-2005, 13:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM Fool me once... JM :( JM Jack JM -Original Message- moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof I collect fairy tales, said the Moderator grimly. pgp3U7EFKvRmX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hallo Handsome, On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (5-8-2005, 13:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM Alexander, thanks for the reply. JM moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. Actually your message included the signature delimiter of the reply you were quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof WARNING! Moderator armed and shoots back! pgp4DwGVppWJw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, You got five mod-postings for a single message. That must be a record. On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 18:46 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to HJM recover from a simple upgrade. Not usually. You have an unusual problem, and Alexander just described how you can solve it. HJM I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. I thought it was a nice step-by-step instruction. Remember to back-up the registry key, he didn't describe how to do that. HJM I'm going to study your message for a while, and then, if I HJM think I can pull it off, I'll give it a try this weekend at home, HJM when I have time enough to do all those things. Please ask if you have further questions, but make sure you follow the list rules as outlined by the mods. Another thing is that your messages don't thread, which is annoyance to some (including me), so I hope you'll be back to using a professional email client again soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. I was arrested for selling illegal-sized paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Two Bat fiascos out of two Bat upgrades must be some kind of record, too. Unfortunately, I'm basically forced to post this way because I'm posting from a LOUSY, web-based e-mail client that my provider supplies. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to post/read at all. Hopefully you'll bear with me until I can get back to using TB. And, no, I don't expect upgrades to mess things up *this* badly, where I'm basically dead in the water, and backups won't even help me. It's never happened to me before. Ever. And *of course* it was a nice step-by-step set of instructions (and my thanks go out to Alexander for at least trying to help me), provided you're used to doing that kind of stuff. But I'm not. No, he didn't explain how to backup the registry key, so it was a good opportunity for you to do so, or so I would have thought. And the mods can either learn to be more flexible when someone basically has no other choice, or I suppose they could ban me. Because I can't do anything about it right now. Maybe if they spent more time helping me than they're spending slapping me with assorted fish, I'd be up and running by now and able to fully comply with the list's rules. I'm not a scoflaw by nature. No, I'm not in a very good mood right now. And if you think that you're annoyed... Jack -Original Message- From: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 5, 2005 9:10 AM To: Handsome Jack Morrison on TBUDL TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello Handsome, You got five mod-postings for a single message. That must be a record. On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 07:46:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 18:46 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to HJM recover from a simple upgrade. Not usually. You have an unusual problem, and Alexander just described how you can solve it. HJM I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. I thought it was a nice step-by-step instruction. Remember to back-up the registry key, he didn't describe how to do that. HJM I'm going to study your message for a while, and then, if I HJM think I can pull it off, I'll give it a try this weekend at home, HJM when I have time enough to do all those things. Please ask if you have further questions, but make sure you follow the list rules as outlined by the mods. Another thing is that your messages don't thread, which is annoyance to some (including me), so I hope you'll be back to using a professional email client again soon. -- Cheers, Thomas. I was arrested for selling illegal-sized paper. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 05-Aug-2005 at 13:46 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: I can't believe that I have to go through all of that just to recover from a simple upgrade. I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. Its not so difficult. If you can copy files and install/uninstall program, you're almost there. I didn't describe how to back up the registry settings, but thats not difficult, either. Click Start, Run and type regedit. The registry editor will open. On the left, navigate to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch and open it. Locate Software and open it. Locate Rit and right-click it. A popup menu will open, select Export, a file requester will open, enter some name, click on Save and you have successfully backed up TB's registry settings. However, I'm starting to lose confidence in the stability of The Bat. Some local setting at your end got corrupted somehow, and the developers of the program where not aware of this corruption to happen. So, they didn't know that they have to catch it. Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. But I don't like the way these troubles keep popping up. Neither would I. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Around us are pseudo-events, to which we adjust with a false consciousness adapted to see these events as true and real, and even as beautiful. -- R. D. Laing Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Untrimmed reply (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hallo Jack, On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:31:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (5-8-2005, 17:31 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM And the mods can either learn to be more flexible when someone JM basically has no other choice, or I suppose they could ban me. JM Because I can't do anything about it right now. That'll be the first editor that can't delete a part of the quoted text. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jack. ' Please trim replies to context. A sure fire indicator that insufficient trimming has been done is that the original signature and list footer remain in the quoted text. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear! pgp8LUWHdPFW6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
[] I'm not even sure that I'm skilled enough to do all of those things. Its not so difficult. If you can copy files and install/uninstall program, you're almost there. We'll see. I didn't describe how to back up the registry settings, but thats not difficult, either. Click Start, Run and type regedit. The registry editor will open. On the left, navigate to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch and open it. Locate Software and open it. Locate Rit and right-click it. A popup menu will open, select Export, a file requester will open, enter some name, click on Save and you have successfully backed up TB's registry settings. Thank you, Alexander. I'll give it a try this weekend. Your help is *extremely* appreciated by me. However, I'm starting to lose confidence in the stability of The Bat. Some local setting at your end got corrupted somehow, and the developers of the program where not aware of this corruption to happen. So, they didn't know that they have to catch it. Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. That's what I'm trying to do, Alexander, but it seems like they're more interested in slapping me with fish because I'm having such a hard time complying with list netiquette, thanks to the LOUSY web-based interface my ISP provides me. I'm going to try to use the Gmane server over the weekend and post through there, using my new copy of Agent 3.0, so that my posts will look prettier to everyone and maybe get all the fish-slapping stopped. But I don't like the way these troubles keep popping up. Neither would I. This message is as conformative as I can make it, given what I have to work with. If it still violates the rules, so be it. -- Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hi Handsome, on Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:55:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (05.08.2005, 19:55 +0200GMT here), you wrote: HJM This message is as conformative as I can make it, given what I have to work with. HJM If it still violates the rules, so be it. I don't think it does. Even the sig delimiter works in your /inferior/ application. LOL -- Cheers Peter Money is the root of all evil. Send 20 Euro for more info. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome Jack Morrison everyone else, on 05-Aug-2005 at 19:55 you (Handsome Jack Morrison) wrote: Out of thousands of users, you've been one of the few unlucky ones with problems. The best thing you can do now is track down the problem and help the developers. That's what I'm trying to do, Alexander, but it seems like they're more interested in slapping me with fish ...but thats the business of our evil twisted moderators. ;-) They're not the ones who maintain the program, but have an eye on the list rules, and its the basement for the overall friendly helpful atmosphere here. Most of the developers are not very active on this list (more on TBBETA), but then again, if they had to keep up with all the listmail, they couldn't fix the bugs! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) 'Time' has ceased, 'Space' has vanished. We now live in a global village...a simultaneous happening. -- Alfred North Whitehead Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello Handsome, On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:31:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) GMT (05/08/2005, 22:31 +0700 GMT), Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: HJM And *of course* it was a nice step-by-step set of instructions HJM (and my thanks go out to Alexander for at least trying to HJM help me), provided you're used to doing that kind of stuff. But I'm not. That's why he posted what to do step-by-step. HJM No, he didn't explain how to backup the registry key, so it was a HJM good opportunity for you to do so, or so I would have thought. Close TB. Windows: Start / Run / Regedit. The registry editor will open. Find the key HK_Current_User / Software / RIT and highlight it. Go File / Export and export the key to a convenient location. For restoring the key after you have followed Alexander's instructions, close TB and double-click on that .reg file. Windows will import it automatically. Open TB and see your settings restored. HJM And the mods can either learn to be more flexible when someone HJM basically has no other choice, or I suppose they could ban me. HJM Because I can't do anything about it right now. Yes, you can. Step 1: Cool down. Step 2: Even with webmail, you can use inline quoting. We are trying to help you here. Cooperation from your side is appreciated. -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: Hey, can you give me another one of those full body cavity searches? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek appears to have abandoned me. Does anyone else have any ideas about how I can get my Bat back? Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Handsome Jack Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 5:28 PM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Marek, it didn't work. I got this MS error message: AppName: thebat.exe AppVer: 3.51.10.0 ModName: thebat.exe ModVer: 3.51.10.0 Offset: 005d1d4a Is there anything else I could try? I'm still dead in the water. Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 9:24 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting with cutmark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Handsome, Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 12:21:38 PM, you wrote: Marek appears to have abandoned me. Does anyone else have any ideas about how I can get my Bat back? moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message b) It encourages excessive quoting. and c) Since you (correctly) use a legitimate cut mark, the original text is now no longer available for comment, since it falls below the cut mark and will be automatically removed in any reply. The text you quote has effectively become a part of your signature. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Skin Tone : The sound your skin makes when you thump it. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Handsome, Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 12:21:38 PM, you wrote: Marek appears to have abandoned me. Does anyone else have any ideas about how I can get my Bat back? Whoops.. Supposed to be the cutmark mod.. My bad... moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. ... and, no, we can't add the cut mark to the list footer on the server because when there are 2 cut marks in a message, only the last is used. So that would penalize those that *do* correctly use a cut mark To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Skin Tone : The sound your skin makes when you thump it. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, I did what you recommended last night, but The Bat still freezes up at the splash screen. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? -- Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? many versions ago there was problem with starting of thebat and removing account.srb file helped. Backup this file and start TB without it, if it helps, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? Thanks again for your help, Marek. Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 8:00 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, I tried what you recommended last night, but TB still freezes at the splash screen and won't load. This is the error message I get: szAppName : thebat.exe szAppVer : 3.51.10.0 szModName : hungapp szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : Any other ideas? many versions ago there was problem with starting of thebat and removing account.srb file helped. Backup this file and start TB without it, if it helps, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting with cutmark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Handsome, Friday, July 29, 2005, 7:21:15 AM, you wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message b) It encourages excessive quoting. and c) Since you (correctly) use a legitimate cut mark, the original text is now no longer available for comment, since it falls below the cut mark and will be automatically removed in any reply. The text you quote has effectively become a part of your signature. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org I am logged in, therefore I am. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Handsome, Friday, July 29, 2005, 5:40:18 AM, you wrote: Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. ... and, no, we can't add the cut mark to the list footer on the server because when there are 2 cut marks in a message, only the last is used. So that would penalize those that *do* correctly use a cut mark To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Shin (n) Device used to locate furniture in the dark. Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hello Group On Friday, July 29, 2005, 4:30:44 PM, Leif wrote: Hello Handsome, What a lovely intro, you never call me Handsome :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK :Jeff_Gaines: Using TheBat! 3.51.10 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Marek, it didn't work. I got this MS error message: AppName: thebat.exe AppVer: 3.51.10.0 ModName: thebat.exe ModVer: 3.51.10.0 Offset: 005d1d4a Is there anything else I could try? I'm still dead in the water. Thanks! Jack -Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 29, 2005 9:24 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Friday, July 29, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: Marek, okay. Tonight I'll find the account.srb file, back it up, remove it, and then try to load TB again. I assume if it helps, send it to me means that I should send you a copy of the account.srb file, if this works? yes, if will be account.srb source of your problem, send it to me. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: New version of The Bat won't load!)
Hallo Handsome, On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:28:58 -0400 (GMT-04:00)GMT (29-7-2005, 23:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JM Thanks! JM Jack JM -Original Message- JM From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Handsome. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Can you teach an old Moderator new tricks? pgpNfINmja7kP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version of The Bat won't load!
Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: ...nothing... can You be more specific? What happens? Any error or warning? Did You installed new version from scratch or upgraded old one? What system do You have? etc. etc. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version won't load...
Yesterday, I downloaded the new version and installed it. Unfortunately, it won't load...it freezes at the opening splash screen, and I get a Microsoft error message asking for permission to send it along to Microsoft, etc. I reinstalled it several times, same result. I rebooted several times, same result. I'd like not to lose the few addititions to The Bat files since my last back-up, so does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this problem? I'm making this post from my office, on another computer, using a webmail interface. If I eventually have to totally uninstall the program to get around this, will I be able to get up and running again with an old backup (after downloading a 3.5 version, instead of 3.5.1, and starting over)? Will the new installation still be able to find my old registration key? Help! -- Jack Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
-Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 8:38 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: ...nothing... Oh, come on now. It was more than nothing. can You be more specific? The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. I can leave the computer and come back an hour later (waiting for it to load) and the splash screen is still there and nothing else. The program just won't open. As I explained previously, I reinstalled version 3.5.1 several times, rebooted several times, and still just get the freeze at the splash screen. Then the error message. What happens? Any error or warning? I get the Microsoft error message, and it asks for permission to send it to Microsoft, which I did. Repeatedly. Did You installed new version from scratch or upgraded old one? I upgraded from 3.5 to the newest version, 3.5.1. What system do You have? etc. etc. HP Pavillion Notebook, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP Home, SP2, totally patched and up to date. I know this isn't a great amount of information, but it's all I have at this time. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version of The Bat won't load!
-Original Message- From: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 28, 2005 9:28 AM To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Subject: Re: New version of The Bat won't load! Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The program FREEZES at the opening splash screen. try to backup tbuser.def file in MAIL, remove it and restart program. Okay, I'll try that when I get home tonight. Thanks, Marek. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version threading
So, I'm glad you like it. I've just been informed, via a post on tbbeta, that the new beta series is already beginning. Come over and help us, if you want to. :) I would love to but as with VA I never got involved with the beta program because my data is too previous and I dare not risk corruption or loss. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version threading
Hello Steve! On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 6:11 AM, you wrote: So, I'm glad you like it. I've just been informed, via a post on tbbeta, that the new beta series is already beginning. Come over and help us, if you want to. :) I would love to but as with VA I never got involved with the beta program because my data is too previous and I dare not risk corruption or loss. I understand completely. It's nice, however, to see you in conversation with Stefan Tanurkov here. So at least we have one channel through which to reap the benefit of your expertise. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New version threading
So at least we have one channel through which to reap the benefit of your expertise. I would not be so arrogant as to assume I had expertise but thank you for that compliment. now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version threading
Steve Lee @ 2005-May-14 2:14:59 PM New version threading mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? Just type the characters for it: colon, dash, and close parenthesis. :-) Press F9 to view the source of this message and you will see that the above line is nothing more than text. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. There are 10 types of people in this world: those you can read binary and those who can't. pgpcWynl1Awy5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using Smiley Images [was Re: New version threading]
Hello Steve! On Saturday, May 14, 2005, 1:14 PM, you wrote, in part: now how do I put in one of those smileys everyone is so keen on? Smileys work from text handles that call images. You cannot view them in the Edit Mail Message window. To view them in View Message windows of any kind (including VFs and Browse Mail Ticker), you have to select RTV. A handy right-click context menu for the message body will let you switch from PTV to RTV. In that same menu, tick the box for Smileys. (There's a place in the Main Window Options/Preferences/Viewer-Editor to choose HTML/Rich Text View, plus a check box for Smileys, also.) You have a set of Default Smileys plus their .msl handles in The Bat!/Images folder. To put one of those in, just type the handle (or cp it into your message body text.) Be sure to include the enclosing colons ( : : ) with no space between handle and colons. Important: be sure to have a space on either outside of the colons. To use the additional images (not all of them Smileys, though we have them on the Smiley page--we have a large collection of flags, too), download them from: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php Put the pcwimages folder in The Bat!/Images. Also, put the pcwsmileys.msl file in The Bat!/Images. The Default folder there is your collection of images that came with TB!, and default.msl, which you can open in a text reader such as Notepad is your collection of handles for those. So, after you get the PCWize Smiley page Smileys, you'll have 2 folders and 2 .msl files in The Bat!/Images. Forgive me if I'm redundant. A look in the Images folder alone would have been enough for you to figure this out, I'm sure. If I haven't told this clearly, please ask. I guess I really should work up a QT with a mini-tutorial for answering questions about using Smileys. :) I'm tickled to tell you how to play with these, as I am the Official Keeper of the Smileys! :) Hope it's okay to brag--actually I'm just Leif Gregory's helper with this. 9Val had the original Smileys-called-from-text-handles idea, and then Leif (I think with some more input from 9Val), expanded on it. Some of us on TBOT were privileged to help beta-test the page, and then Leif asked if I would help him out as the page's administrator. Die-hard PTV users don't have much use for the concept. Others, like me, have had an immense amount of fun with them. :) -- Best regards, Mary, PCWSmileys Administrator http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New version threading
Well it looks like I came just in time. The new threading is a great improvement thank you. -- Best wishes, Steve Lee http://jumbocruiser.com Tel +44 7768 211612 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New version threading
Hello Steve! On Friday, May 13, 2005, 6:51 PM, you wrote: Well it looks like I came just in time. The new threading is a great improvement thank you. So, I'm glad you like it. I've just been informed, via a post on tbbeta, that the new beta series is already beginning. Come over and help us, if you want to. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAM P2Pplugin BODY**
Hi ritlabs-news, On Wed, 01 Sep 2004, at 01:48:04 [GMT+0300] (which was 8:48:04 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work in close contact with users to achieve their goals. It takes that long to draw icons? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 I think, therefore I am. I think. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Bat Users, On Wed, 01 Sep 2004, at 01:48:04 [GMT+0300] (which was 8:48:04 Australian Eastern Time) Rit Labs wrote in a self congratulatory e-mail: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work in close contact with users to achieve their goals. It takes ~that long~ to draw icons? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAM P2Pplugin BODY**
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:26:07 +1000, John Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work in close contact with users to achieve their goals. I've received this annoucement too. BULLSHIT!! Hey, RitLabs, you hear that? BULLSHIT!! Most annoying bugs in (basic) mail protocol functionality as reported for v1 *and* v2 are still in, and certainly others will be introduced. And now you want us to improve your cash flow? Forget it, not me!! -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi Cory, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:57:47 AM, you wrote: C On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 17:26:07 +1000, John Phillips C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work in close contact with users to achieve their goals. C I've received this annoucement too. BULLSHIT!! Hey, RitLabs, you hear C that? BULLSHIT!! C Most annoying bugs in (basic) mail protocol functionality as reported C for v1 *and* v2 are still in, and certainly others will be introduced. C And now you want us to improve your cash flow? Forget it, not me!! :( Looks like im not the only person to think like this. I am seriously thinking of installing Outlook 2003. It is a very good client (have to use it at work) and is pretty damn secure these days. TB! is just a huge let down now :( I hope Ritlabs go bust, nobody should pay for TB!3, it just isn't worth the money. -- Morgan http://mpugh.co.uk PGP Key: http://mpugh.co.uk/pgp.asc Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Morgan Pugh wrote on 01 September 2004 11:03: I am seriously thinking of installing Outlook 2003. It is a very good client (have to use it at work) and is pretty damn secure these days. It still has a few annoying issues, such as I can't touch any messages in the Outbox once I've sent/queued up messages - if I try to do so I can't send it at all without deleting it from the Outbox and starting again. And this is with Office 2003 Service Pack 1 as well! TB! is just a huge let down now :( I hope Ritlabs go bust, nobody should pay for TB!3, it just isn't worth the money. I think that's a bit harsh - I wouldn't wish anybody to be unemployed. People do have the choice whether or not to buy it - the upgrade is not being forced down anybody's throats. Regards, Martyn Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [News] TheBat! 3.0 new version announcement **SPAM** **SPAMP2Pplugin BODY**
Hello Martyn, TB! is just a huge let down now :( I hope Ritlabs go bust, nobody should pay for TB!3, it just isn't worth the money. I think that's a bit harsh - I wouldn't wish anybody to be unemployed. People do have the choice whether or not to buy it - the upgrade is not being forced down anybody's throats. I fully agree with you. And it also shows a complete lack of respect for those of us who, after all and aside of other issues, think the upgrade is worth the money it costs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hi MAU, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:25:03 PM, you wrote: M Hello Martyn, TB! is just a huge let down now :( I hope Ritlabs go bust, nobody should pay for TB!3, it just isn't worth the money. I think that's a bit harsh - I wouldn't wish anybody to be unemployed. People do have the choice whether or not to buy it - the upgrade is not being forced down anybody's throats. M I fully agree with you. And it also shows a complete lack of respect for M those of us who, after all and aside of other issues, think the upgrade M is worth the money it costs. Sorry if I offended anyone. I didn't mean to but you have to understand where I am coming from? Ritlabs are pretty much screwing over all its users. I bought both V1 and V2 and I don't think that anything added in V3 warrants it being a major upgrade from V2. Perhaps the problem was how Ritlabs announced this? I think they should have put an announcement on there site for the past month or so, then it wouldn't be such a big shock. Also they should have called 2.13 beta the 3.0 beta to avoid confusion. Also Ritlabs really need to improve there support. The e-mail address they supply with TB! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has never worked for me since V1 yet they still use it as the official contact from in the program. It isn't all that hard to have decent support. Get just one person who knows the program inside out and pay them to reply to emails all day. Other companies manage to do it just fine so I don't know why Ritlabs cant! -- Morgan http://mpugh.co.uk PGP Key: http://mpugh.co.uk/pgp.asc Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
