Re: Old files, file extension questions (Cache Matter :))
Hello RS, Not mentioning that due to the fact that I live in Shanghai sometimes the links embedded in the message are not possible to be downloaded from some foreign servers (with a high ping and sometimes Time Out up to 50%) - service quality I know, so I do not complain here just dreaming at the moment :) I'm on DianXin, biggest Internet provider in China and as it always is with biggest service they give you sucks... unfortunately I can't have installed any other. Just if anyone in China wonders if to install WanTong - I had it before I moved to new apartment and it was 'flying'. Just a little off topic. I'm also the user of Shanghai telecom. I agree that its service is bad sometimes. But, trust me, the service of netcom(merged into unioncom now) is worse. Perhaps we can discuss those things in private mails:-) -- Best regards, Miles Chang mailto:drift...@gmx.com Translator of Chinese The Bat! AntispamSniper Agent: The Bat! v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) Plugins: AntispamSniper v3.2.6.4 MyMacros 1.11a Platform: Windows XP (v5.1.2600, Service Pack 3) with AVG 2011 (v10.0.x) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions (Cache Matter :))
Hi Miles, Just a little off topic. I'm also the user of Shanghai telecom. I agree that its service is bad sometimes. But, trust me, the service of netcom(merged into unioncom now) is worse. Perhaps we can discuss those things in private mails:-) Condolences about Shanghai Telecom ;) Never tied a mix you've mentioned and not going to :) -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 4.2.44.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Friday, August 12, 2011 (11:41 ; GMT+8) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
Follow up new problem/issue. AM *2. Mail Folders: .BCK, .BK0, .BK1, IBO, IB1* AM My individual mail folders have a lot of OLD files (at least +1 year) that AM have extensions that look like the above. usually named something like AM MESSAGES.BCK I get the .BCK files when I try to back-up or compress folders and there is some problem. Next time the file extension increases to .BK0, then .BK1, then .BK2 and so on. You can recover messages from there, but I usually decide that I don't miss any messages, so I delete these files. I have never seen .IB0 or .IB1 files. 1. I went ahead and deleted everything that looked like a backup -- it's possible that some of the odd extensions (like IBO) were created by some other backup or virus protection program a long the way... but the main thing was all those files were at least a year old, so whatever they are, I don't need them now. AM *1. Attachment Folder, *.msg extensions* *.msg should be messages that were attached to emails. You can double-click on them and then they will open in TB!. So you can decide whether you want to keep them. 2. I did figure out how to read them. I didn't want to open them up in TB because I wanted the program to be closed while I was doing the cleanup, but I found another utility that made it easy to drag drop read. I delete the Cache and the imgfiles folder several time a day. I view a lot of graphics and things can get out of control quickly. I have a batch file to do it on the fly, but it is part of my Ccleaner routine too 3. Once I deleted the contents of the cache file it didn't come back, and all of the files in the cache were pretty old, so I'm guessing that it might not be used with version 5. Nothing at all is in the imgfiles directory other than two empty files called FilesDB.info and FilesDB.info__ Maybe that has something to do with my settings. 4. Now for the new/different problem or bug. I have always had TheBat configured to save all attachments to a separate folder (rather than the body of messages). I was housecleaning because the attachments folder seemed to have grown extremely large. I discovered to my dismay when doing the cleaning that TheBat had created multiple copies many of the attachments, generally with names following this pattern: filename.ext, filename1.ext, filename2.ext -- and I could see that recent copies of the documents seemed to correspond with the date/time that scheduled backups are run on my system. This happened with many, but not all, attachments. Sometimes there were as many as 60 copies of the same file. Obviously a problem when it is a large file to start with, but even with small files is all adds up. I SUSPECT that this may be tied to parked emails. I've always known that TheBat has the annoying tendency to make extra copies of parked emails from time to time, but it didn't occur to me that it might be replicating the attachments as well. Since the time of the duplication seems to also correlate with automated backup, I've decided to stop backing up the attachments folder. (I have alternate backup in place for that, so that would be easy enough to restore if needed). But I wanted to raise this as this is definitely an issue that could impact performance for others - so it is something to watch out for. I had noticed that the routine backups were starting to take very long to complete -- now I have an idea what was going on, though I still don't know why it happened. -Abigail Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
Hi On Wednesday 10 August 2011 at 1:48:33 AM, in mid:cahoaklbist6rbholqwwz15w5bn_fiu5hvmo7ouppfe6pz5m...@mail.gmail.com, Abigail Marshall wrote: Am I assuming correctly that the files in TheBat cache are unnecessary (except for those currently in use)? In other words, safe to delete all files from cache as part of regular maintenance? I know nothing of a The Bat! cache, but it is safe (when TB! is not running) to delete bat*.tmp files from your temp folders. Generally they are deleted when no longer needed but can get left behind. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com To know what we know, and know what we do not know, is wisdom. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
Hi On Wednesday 10 August 2011 at 1:48:33 AM, in mid:cahoaklbist6rbholqwwz15w5bn_fiu5hvmo7ouppfe6pz5m...@mail.gmail.com, Abigail Marshall wrote: Am I assuming correctly that the files in TheBat cache are unnecessary (except for those currently in use)? In other words, safe to delete all files from cache as part of regular maintenance? I know nothing of a The Bat! cache, but it is safe (when TB! is not running) to delete bat*.tmp files from your temp folders. Generally they are deleted when no longer needed but can get left behind. I delete the cache even with TB running - it will recreate any files it needs. I keep the imgfile folder clean too as I download all graphics and it can fill in a hurry. I might add that the cache and imgfile folders SAVE BANDWIDTH. I am on a wide band connection. If you are on dial up, you might want to be a bit more selective as to how often you clean them out -- Rick Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on; and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. The Tempest v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Old files, file extension questions
I'm running TB Home Edition 5.0.20.1 and as I have been using TB for many years, there seem to be a lot of old stuff accumulated that is taking up space and so I'm doing some housecleaning -- but I'm not sure what is safe to delete and what isn't. So I have these questions: *1. Attachment Folder, *.msg extensions* TB is configured to store all attachments in a single folder. As attachments take a lot of room, it makes sense for me to go through the folder and either move important files that I need to keep to another part of my computer, and delete other stuff I don't need, especially for older stuff. Attachments can be very large files that take up a lot of room, and they are hard to find within the mail program after a few weeks or months have gone by. In other words: Pictures of my grandson: (move from attachments to /pictures/grandson directory -- easier to find that way anyway) Funny joke cat pictures mailed the senders 300 closest friends: delete. forever. goodbye. But I see a lot of files in the attachments folder that have the extension *.msg - *I don't know what those are and whether they are needed or not. Are they just superfluous attachments that come from outlook users? or will deleting the .msg file also mean that I have deleted the content of the email that it was initially attached to as well? (In which case maybe I need to back up before deleting?) *2. Mail Folders: .BCK, .BK0, .BK1, IBO, IB1* * * My individual mail folders have a lot of OLD files (at least +1 year) that have extensions that look like the above. usually named something like MESSAGES.BCK Am I correct in assuming that these are all backups of one sort or another, and that the ONLY files I need in each folder are: MESSAGES.TBB and MESSAGES.TBN I'm thinking that I could probably get rid of a lot of unneeded stuff, and likely speed up my mail handling if I just got rid of these older files. Anyway, I'd appreciate it if anyone would let me know if there is a reason NOT to delete the above files. Keep in mind that I am talking about files that show last modified that are at least a year old. Thanks, Abigail Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
One more question, along the same lines: Am I assuming correctly that the files in TheBat cache are unnecessary (except for those currently in use)? In other words, safe to delete all files from cache as part of regular maintenance? -Abigail Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
One more question, along the same lines: Am I assuming correctly that the files in TheBat cache are unnecessary (except for those currently in use)? In other words, safe to delete all files from cache as part of regular maintenance? I delete the Cache and the imgfiles folder several time a day. I view a lot of graphics and things can get out of control quickly. I have a batch file to do it on the fly, but it is part of my Ccleaner routine too -- Rick You're only young once; you can be immature forever v5.0.22.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions
Hello Abigail, On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:19:28 -0700 GMT (10/Aug/11, 6:19 AM +0700 GMT), Abigail Marshall wrote: AM *1. Attachment Folder, *.msg extensions* *.msg should be messages that were attached to emails. You can double-click on them and then they will open in TB!. So you can decide whether you want to keep them. These should be attachments to messages, not the messages itself. AM *2. Mail Folders: .BCK, .BK0, .BK1, IBO, IB1* AM * AM * AM My individual mail folders have a lot of OLD files (at least +1 year) that AM have extensions that look like the above. usually named something like AM MESSAGES.BCK I get the .BCK files when I try to back-up or compress folders and there is some problem. Next time the file extension increases to .BK0, then .BK1, then .BK2 and so on. You can recover messages from there, but I usually decide that I don't miss any messages, so I delete these files. I have never seen .IB0 or .IB1 files. AM Am I correct in assuming that these are all backups of one sort or another, AM and that the ONLY files I need in each folder are: AM MESSAGES.TBB and AM MESSAGES.TBN Yes, most of my folders have only these two files. AM Anyway, I'd appreciate it if anyone would let me know if there is a reason AM NOT to delete the above files. Keep in mind that I am talking about files AM that show last modified that are at least a year old. As I said, I delete that stuff. But please wait for others to comment before you follow my advice. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old files, file extension questions (Cache Matter :))
Hi Rick, Am I assuming correctly that the files in TheBat cache are unnecessary (except for those currently in use)? In other words, safe to delete all files from cache as part of regular maintenance? I delete the Cache and the imgfiles folder several time a day. I view a lot of graphics and things can get out of control quickly. I have a batch file to do it on the fly, but it is part of my Ccleaner routine too I wish to have an option to save a cache with a TBK backup file :) And an option in Message Maintenance to clean cached files for messages that were removed would be a nice feature :) I don't know why but it's getting longer on TB! (even up to 1 minute) than on Thunderbird (3-15 seconds mostly) to get external link pictures in the messages downloaded. Not mentioning that due to the fact that I live in Shanghai sometimes the links embedded in the message are not possible to be downloaded from some foreign servers (with a high ping and sometimes Time Out up to 50%) - service quality I know, so I do not complain here just dreaming at the moment :) I'm on DianXin, biggest Internet provider in China and as it always is with biggest service they give you sucks... unfortunately I can't have installed any other. Just if anyone in China wonders if to install WanTong - I had it before I moved to new apartment and it was 'flying'. -- Best Regards, RS (FEDARA) The Bat! 4.2.44.2 Windows 7 x64 Professional (7601 Service Pack 1) Wednesday, August 10, 2011 (11:50 ; GMT+8) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
