Re: Upgrade advice, please

[MAU]

Hello Mary,

> Thanks very much for answering. I realised fairly soon that this
> list wasn't very busy, so I sent an email to Ritlabs, and they answered very 
> quickly.

Glad you got help and solved your issue.

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Re: Upgrade advice, please

[Mary Cassidy]

MAU wrote:

> It looks like not many people is watching this list any more. 

> I am still using Win 10, so I have no idea about Win 11, sorry.

> I am using 9.5.1 and I find it very stable. No idea about v10.3.2, I 
> never upgraded or tried v10.

> I asume it will, but I really don't know. I have never used TB's 
> back-up.


Hi Miguel, 

Thanks very much for answering. I realised fairly soon that this list wasn't 
very busy, so I sent an email to Ritlabs, and they answered very quickly.

In case it helps anyone else, they said:

"Newer versions of The Bat! are backwards compatible, this means the latest The 
Bat! v10 will be able to restore backups created in v4 or any other earlier 
version of the program.

If you have large accounts, then consider creating separate .tbk backups for 
each account." 

So I split up my very large accounts into a series of smaller ones, downloaded 
v10, and  
the restore function worked perfectly!

I've been using v10 for a few days now, and I haven't noticed any problems with 
it.

I'm very happy, because I have a huge number of emails dating back around 20 
years, and I can now search and retrieve them very easily on my new W11 machine.

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Re: Upgrade?

[Susanne]

Hello Thomas,

Friday, March 22, 2019, 8:50:24 PM, you wrote:

> You have to download the file manually, close TB!, and then
> double-click on the downloaded file.

> Your mails, your settings, and your licence will stay in place.

Thanks!

One reason I'm thinking of upgrading is that I read you can now resize images
in version 8. It's always bothered me that I couldn't do this.

I'm currently using the new version as a trial, as my license apparently doesn't
carry over to this version, but I can't find how to do the resizing when 
inserting a picture.
Does anyone know how to accomplish this?

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Re: Upgrade?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:28:06 -0700 GMT (23-Mar-19, 04:28 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

> is there a way to upgrade TB from within the program and have it
> use the license key automatically?

Go to Help / Check for upgrade, and it will direct you to the download
side.

You have to download the file manually, close TB!, and then
double-click on the downloaded file.

Your mails, your settings, and your licence will stay in place.

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Re: Upgrade Policy

[Alexander Petrari]

Hello,

You wrote:

PM> Given that TB is current on 8.6.x it looks like v9 is around the corner, so
PM> it seems incredibly bad value if I buy now and I am no longer entitled to
PM> upgrades after v9 is released. I could be misreading the policy.


We release major The Bat! versions approximately every 12-24 months regardless
of the sub-version number. The currently sold licenses for v8 will not be
accepted by v9 when it is released. For the past versions we did post
announcements on the start of selling licenses for the next major version.
Currently we are still working on v8.

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Re: Upgrade to new version

[Rich Gregory]

On Monday, November 13, 2017 thus spake Maxim:
MM> Version 8 keys are backwards-compatible for version 7 as well.


Hello Maxim,

Can I roll-back to v7.x?
(In another post I cited a show-stopping issue w/ v8.0.10)

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Re: Upgrade to new version

[Tom]

Wednesday, November 15, 2017, 5:03:06 PM, you wrote:

> No problem here. It kept all the settings seamlessly.

thanks Paul,
installing over the top worked fine for me too.

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Re: Upgrade to new version

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Wednesday, November 15, 2017, 1:40:29 PM, you wrote:


T> Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote:

>> on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:44 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

MM>>> After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually
MM>>> create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The
MM>>> Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar.

T> Peter,

T> thanks but I am confused.  This explains how the program is easily
T> started after the installation. I am wondering how to install the new
T> version. The idea is of course that my existing accounts, templates
T> and  other  customizations  remain.  That's  why  I asked if I need to
T> uninstall  first, then install and import a backup or if I can install
T> over the existing program.



No problem here. It kept all the settings seamlessly.


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Re: Upgrade to new version

[Tom]

Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 5:40:20 PM, you wrote:

> on Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:21:44 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote:

MM>> After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually
MM>> create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The
MM>> Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar.

Peter,

thanks but I am confused.  This explains how the program is easily
started after the installation. I am wondering how to install the new
version. The idea is of course that my existing accounts, templates
and  other  customizations  remain.  That's  why  I asked if I need to
uninstall  first, then install and import a backup or if I can install
over the existing program.

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Re: Upgrade to new version

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Tom,

First, buy the version 8 registration key and enter it for your version 7 
registration.

Version 8 keys are backwards-compatible for version 7 as well.

Make sure that The Bat! 7 displays your version 8 key, it should tell in the 
about box that the registration key is valid until version 8.9.

Then, download and install the version 8 .MSI file. Don't uninstall anything. 
Version 8 will update all the program files and will keep using your data files.

If you like to pin The Bat! to the Windows Taskbar, the icon will no longer be 
valid. To make it survive installations of the new versions, do the following, 
once. After you have installed version 8, we would recommend you to manually 
create a shortcut on the desktop to point to C:\Program Files\The 
Bat!\thebat64(or 32).exe, and then drag this shortcut to the taskbar.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 22 March 2016 at 4:39:32 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:



> How do I get TB! to find the cert adb?

Tools | Address Book | View | Certificate Aggress Books

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 22 March 2016 at 9:14:14 PM, in
, Jernej Simončič
wrote:



Options ->> S/MIME and TLS -> select Microsoft CryptoAPI.  



Just for the record, I am using TB! 7.1.18 on Windows 10 with Avast 
Free Antivirus 11.1.2253, with TB!'s Internal Implementation selected 
for S/MIME and TLS certificates. My Trusted Root CA address book 
contains three certificates for Avast and my intermediate CA AB 
contains one. 


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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jernej,

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 22:14:14 +0100 GMT (23-Mar-16, 04:14 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 14:48:49, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> How would I do that? - I do like avast!, and I don't know whether
>> Windows Defender is as good.

Options ->> S/MIME and TLS -> select Microsoft CryptoAPI.

Thanks; Anton already mentioned this. I will try in the office and
will report back.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 14:48:49, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> How would I do that? - I do like avast!, and I don't know whether
> Windows Defender is as good.

Options -> S/MIME and TLS -> select Microsoft CryptoAPI.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Feli Wilcke]

Hello Thomas, 

Am 22. März 2016 14:48:49 MEZ, schrieb Thomas Fernandez :
 
>> Your antivirus is doing a MITM attack on the connection, which is why
>> it's failing.
... 
>I disabled avast! in the office, and could use the computer without
>problems. Windows 10 automtically enables Windows Defender when no
>other antivirus is enabled, so I was reasonably safe (I hope).

I'm using NOD32 for ages (it was suggested on the german list some years ago) 
and had no problems at all with certificates when switching to W10. 
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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jernej,

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:00:44 +0100 GMT (22-Mar-16, 18:00 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 5:39:32, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>>  22-Mar-16, 11:26:51: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for
>> SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root.

> Your antivirus is doing a MITM attack on the connection, which is why
> it's failing.

Thanks, that was it!

I had already download that TB! version again and reinstalled, hoping
that the certificates will show up in the ABD, but they didn't.
Checking here on my home PC, I don't see any certs in the RootCa
addressbook either...

I disabled avast! in the office, and could use the computer without
problems. Windows 10 automtically enables Windows Defender when no
other antivirus is enabled, so I was reasonably safe (I hope).

I only wonder why there was no MITM problem with avast! under Windows
8, and it suddenly appeared after the Windows upgrade.

> It might work if you switch TB to use the Windows certificate store,
> but such MITM actually leaves you more vulnerable.

How would I do that? - I do like avast!, and I don't know whether
Windows Defender is as good.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Anton,

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:55:42 +0500 GMT (22-Mar-16, 19:55 +0700 GMT),
Anton Belenki wrote:

>> you can also try to enable option (Options/S/MIME and TLS...), which is 
>> shown in screenshot.

> screenshot didn't attach.

> go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft CryptoAPI.

I see... Thanks, I'll try tomorrow in the office.

Note: I had sent my original request by Gmane, as this email account
is not set up on my office computer. I could create a new topic and
read replies, but could not any reply with Gmane - but that is sure
off-topic here.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Anton Belenki]

> you can also try to enable option (Options/S/MIME and TLS...), which is shown 
> in screenshot.

screenshot didn't attach.

go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft CryptoAPI.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Anton Belenki]

> !22-Mar-16, 11:26:51: FETCH - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server
> certificate. The certificate or one of the certificates in the certificate
> chain does not have a valid signature.

you can also try to enable option (Options/S/MIME and TLS...), which is shown 
in screenshot.

it once helped to resolve my certificate problems.

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Re: Upgrade to Win10: Certificates lost

[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 5:39:32, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>  22-Mar-16, 11:26:51: FETCH - Issuer: generated by avast! antivirus for
> SSL/TLS scanning, avast! Web/Mail Shield, avast! Web/Mail Shield Root.

Your antivirus is doing a MITM attack on the connection, which is why
it's failing. It might work if you switch TB to use the Windows
certificate store, but such MITM actually leaves you more vulnerable.

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[TheLimit]

On 12/13/2013 you wrote:

> If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch
> section on the far left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8

Sorry,  but  it  doesn't do that here. Win7, SP 1. I just ran the
Win updates, FWTW.

Ignore  the sig. I have no idea where TB! is finding it, but it's
not the sig the template points to. Thanks, though!

Cheers!

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Rick]

>I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!
If you are on XP it will have to drag to the quick launch section on the far 
left next to the start button. This works for 7 and 8

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Friday, December 13, 2013, 5:45:47 PM, you wrote:


T> On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

>> Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
>> the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar"
>> message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
>> whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
>> down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
>> you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
>> don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
>> as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
>> task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
>> it.  I just checked.

T> I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!




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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[TheLimit]

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

> Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
> the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar"
> message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
> whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
> down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
> you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
> don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
> as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
> task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
> it.  I just checked.

I'll give it another shot then .. Thanks again!


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Lynn,

On Friday, December 13, 2013 you wrote:


T> On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

>> Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.

T> Jack,  I  just  did all that.

T> Filemgr  -  TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut.
T> Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click

Actually you have to drag the shortcut all the way down into
the task bar before you'll see that "pin to task bar"
message.  If the task bar is accessible with the window from
whence it came still open, you can just drag it straight
down into the task bar from that window.  I didn't know if
you had the TheBat folder opened full screen or not.  You
don't really have to drop the shortcut on the desktop first
as I suggested earlier.  And, just to make sure, even if the
task bar is locked the shortcut can still be dropped into
it.  I just checked.


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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[TheLimit]

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

> Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.  Lets
> try getting a TB!  shortcut on your task bar.  First, close
> all open windows on your desktop.  Second, if you're running
> Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER.  When the window opens up
> double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES
> (x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!,
> right-click on TheBat.exe.  From the menu which appears
> choose CREATE SHORTCUT.  A TB!  shortcut
> (TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe.
> Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop
> it there.  Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
> shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
> should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should
> be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
> it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
> onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
> your computer.


Jack,  I  just  did all that.

Filemgr  -  TB!folder - thebat!.exe - right click. Make shortcut.
Copy shortcut (drag) to desktop - right click

No links to 'pin to ..' anything at all, not on the task bar, not
on the menu, not from the icon on the desktop, nor from the icon
on the taskbar after TB! is loaded. In fact, before sending this,
I just went to the file manager and checked to make sure those
links wouldn't appear on the .exe icon, on right clicking it. I'll
check again after closing TB!, but I don't expect anything
different.

Some  of  this  stuff may be WinDoze being 'helpful', but I'm not
discovering anything there, either.

The  weird  thing  is  that  now  TB! and some other packages are
loading  at  much  lower  resolution  than they were, or probably
should  be.  I'll pick the brain of the guy who loaded the system
here  this time.  I never used to let anyone load my systems, and
maybe  I need to go back to that, but he really is very much more
knowledgeable  than  I, and he offered ... and it was a gift, and
one  shouldn't look gift horses in the mouth, should one? Or have
they changed that rule since I was in school ..?

lol!  I do appreciate the help, though. It really is beginning to
seem like anything I touch goes badly south these days.

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[TheLimit]

On 12/12/2013 you wrote:

> Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
> shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
> should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should
> be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
> it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
> onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
> your computer.

The  only one requiring it seems to be TB!. I'll try later when I
reboot.

> As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there.
> Your sig, maybe.  My sig looks like this:

Actually,  mine  is  very  much  simpler, but this is NOT the sig
which  is  indexed to this folder. Yes, I use the macros, yes, it
worked, not for months or a couple of versions, for YEARS.

I  haven't  had  a  chance  to dig around and find out where it's
getting  this  file,  or  why  it isn't honoring the links in the
templates.  It takes so long to plow through the mail and file it
manually that I haven't got there yet. Nor to the filters.

But  it  would  be  a  help not to have to load it manually every
time,  so  thanks  again!  At  this rate, I'm going to owe you my
first born son! lol!

Don't hold your breath ... I'm past the relevant age :-)

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Lynn,

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 you wrote:


T> On 12/8/2013 you wrote:


>> Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
>> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
>> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


T> I  can't  either.  At all. I've tried every way I could think of.
T> The  links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started
T> with a 'search for software' .

Well, I might be able to help with some of this stuff.  Lets
try getting a TB!  shortcut on your task bar.  First, close
all open windows on your desktop.  Second, if you're running
Win 7, go to START+COMPUTER.  When the window opens up
double-click LOCAL COMPUTER, then double-click PROGRAM FILES
(x86), locate and open (double-click) the folder THE BAT!,
right-click on TheBat.exe.  From the menu which appears
choose CREATE SHORTCUT.  A TB!  shortcut
(TheBat.exe-shortcut) will appear below TheBat.exe.
Left-click and drag that shortcut to your desktop and drop
it there.  Close all open windows, left-click and drag the
shortcut down into the task bar and release.  A dialog box
should appear saying "pin to task bar" which it now should
be.  Now delete the shortcut remaining on your desktop as
it's no longer necessary.  That's how I got my TB!  shortcut
onto my task bar.  The same can be done for any program on
your computer.

As far as the sudden slooowness, I can't help there.
Your sig, maybe.  My sig looks like this:



-- 
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama

Using The Bat! ver: %THEBATVERSION.
Running %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME Pro ver %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION build 
%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
%SetEditor="1"%
%SetHeader("X-Rogue",":Deuxdad:")%-

%ACCOUNT="Jack LaRosa"



The macros (all preceded with a percent sign) will supply
the correct information when you select the template you're
going to use.  As to where TB!  gets the template to use, as
there are several places to create templates, that's a
secret known only to select grand masters of TB!  I joke of
course but I always have a helluva time figuring out which
template I need to modify to accomplish any changes.

It may be that your sig(s) have text instead of macros in
them which is why they haven't changed.  For one thing as
you are probably already aware, the "cut mark" has to be
DASH+DASH+SPACE+RETURN to work correctly.

There are templates in the AB of course but also in ACCOUNT
PROPERTIES and FOLDER PROPERTIES.  I think that's all.
Which template gets used under which circumstances has
always been a mystery to me and I've successfully
accomplished changes only through trial and error (mostly
error).

Hope some of this helps.

-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[TheLimit]

On 12/8/2013 you wrote:


> Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


I  can't  either.  At all. I've tried every way I could think of.
The  links don't come up, period. Every time it has to be started
with a 'search for software' .

It's  annoying,  but less so than the filters, the sig files, the
sudden sloowness ... those are dealbreakers.

Still fighting for it, but running out of steam. This sig, for
instance, must exist on my system somewhere, but it is NOT
current. I'm running Win7 at SP 1, or thought I was, and TB! is
now at 5.8.10 for a certainty .. unless the install failed
catastrophically with no messages, but put the old version up.
Where'd it get it from??? Sig files are hard linked in the
folder/address templates!

Hanging in ...

-- 
Lynn


theli...@comcast.net * * *Aun Aprendo
*** Win7U ***  OVB Kubuntu Linux  13.04 *** 
I'd rather be WARP'ed* * *  Team OS/2


Windows 6, Build 7601
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS>> Hello TBUDL,

GS>> I have a few questions.

GS>> 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB> Only one little annoyance.

PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.


-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS>> Hello TBUDL,

GS>> I have a few questions.

GS>> 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB> Only one little annoyance.

PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.





-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:30:09 AM, you wrote:

JSL> Hello Paul,

JSL> On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB>> Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB>> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS>>> Hello TBUDL,

GS>>> I have a few questions.

GS>>> 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB>> Only one little annoyance.

PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

JSL> Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
JSL> create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
JSL> problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.







Thanks - just tried again and it now works.


-- 



Paul

-
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6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1  

...Afraid of heights? Not me, I'm afraid of widths! 



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 11:58:11 AM, you wrote:

PVN> 12/8/2013  7:51 PM

PVN> Hi Paul,

PVN> On 12/8/2013 Paul Berger wrote:

PB>> Only one little annoyance.

PB>> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

PVN> On the System Tray at the right end of the TaskBar 
PVN>  Click on "Customize"



Thanks now OK.


-- 



Paul

-
 Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7
6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1  

...Experience is the name I give to my mistakes



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Greg,
Sunday, December 8, 2013, 7:51:48 PM, among other things, you wrote:

GS> 3)  Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems?
In my computer it is unuseable.  It will not send or receive messages. There is 
still a lot to be done.

The 32 bit version is useable but at this stage gives little or no advantage
over version 5.8.10.

I give next a copy of what Maxim said when alpha testing started:

What's  new  in  this ALPHA (English):

1.  Support of IDN (Internationalized Domain Names) in email addresses.

2.   The  Bat!   version  6,  unlike  previous  versions, is a fully-Unicode
application.   This  gives  advantages  to the users that work with multiple
languages  simultaneously.   While previous versions worked mostly well with
multiple  languages  in  file  names, subject lines, etc., there were places
that  a  language  different  that Windows-default language “for non-Unicode
programs” might not work well in The Bat!.

3.   There  will  be  64-bit  version of thebat.exe also available alongside
32-bit version.

4.  There is a new sorting office option – extract files by masks.

-- 
Best regards,
  
 Roger 

:flag-SouthAfrica:

The   Bat!  v5.8.10  POP3,  on  Windows 7,
version 6 1, build 7601   and Service Pack 1



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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Paul,

On Sunday, December 08, 2013 you wrote:

PB> Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB> Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS>> Hello TBUDL,

GS>> I have a few questions.

GS>> 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?


PB> Only one little annoyance.

PB> In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.

Huh?  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment but I can
create a TB! shortcut and pin it to the taskbar with no
problem. I now have a Bat icon on my taskbar.





-- 
Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama



Using The Bat! ver: 5.2.
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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Paul Berger]

Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

Monday, December 9, 2013, 4:51:48 AM, you wrote:

GS> Hello TBUDL,

GS> I have a few questions.

GS> 1)  Has there been many problems with the new v6?

GS> 2)  Is  there  a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw
GS> Maxim's email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question.

GS> 3)  Has anybody upgraded to the 64 bit version of TB without problems?

GS> Sorry  I  haven't  been  keeping  up with the list.  Too busy!

GS> I have upgraded the old WinXP to Windows 8 64 bit version earlier this
GS> year. Just upgraded to Windows 8.1 from Windows 8.0 with BAD
GS> experience. I thought it unusual for the upgrade of Windows taking
GS> well over the 1-2 hours per instructions. After the upgrade I found it
GS> unusual that a Citrix window was open when I only use Citrix to log
GS> into work remotely. I have huge concerns with security for work. After
GS> the upgrade I also didn't like the fact that I had to log onto MY PC
GS> using a Microsoft account rather than my password.

GS> Thank goodness for old disk imaging software for backup because I've
GS> now downgraded back to Windows 8.0. Given the bad experience with
GS> Windows I thought it appropriate to ask the question above before
GS> upgrading TB.

GS> Still using TB email client on my main PC after all these years. :)

GS> Take Care!



Only one little annoyance.

In Windows 7 you cannot put the Bat icon onto the task bar.


-- 



Paul

-
 Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7
6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1  

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Re: Upgrade from 5.8.2 to 6.0.10

[Rick]

>2) Is there a separate download for the 64bit version of TB? I saw Maxim's 
>email on 64bit version on TBBeta, hence question.

Install the MSI files then copy the 64 bit exe to the program folder. 6.0.12 
has a lot of problems but I have not found any real show stoppers other than 
the AVs

-- 
Rick
Cannot open file "C:\ProgramData\The Bat!\cookies\politics.txt"

v6.0.12 on Windows 6.2 Build  9200

Using all POP accounts
I download all images

 





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Re: Upgrade from 1.62r to 5.3x

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Geroge and Rick,

Saturday, January 19, 2013, 4:54:46 AM, you wrote:

>>FWIW, I went from v1.6 something to version 5.0 under WinXP with no issues. 
>>Hopefully, the same ease of upgrading would apply going to 5.3.

R> ... and we all KNOW to backup first. Too many times I have "waited" :))

Thanks a lot. I have asked him to reprt back whether it worked for
him.

-- 
Cheers,
Thomas.



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Re: Upgrade from 1.62r to 5.3x

[Rick]

>FWIW, I went from v1.6 something to version 5.0 under WinXP with no issues. 
>Hopefully, the same ease of upgrading would apply going to 5.3.

... and we all KNOW to backup first. Too many times I have "waited" :))


-- 
Rick
Cannot open file "C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\Application Data\The 
Bat!\cookies\quotes.txt"

v5.3.6.2 (BETA) on Windows 6.2 Build  9200

Using all POP accounts
I download all images

 





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Re: Upgrade from 1.62r to 5.3x

[Geoff Lane]

On 18 January 2013, 16:17, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Someone on the German list has v1.62r running under Windows XP. He
> asks whether he can upgrade to 5.3x (just install the new version on
> top of the existing as usual) without problems.

> Since the database structure was changed several times between these
> two versions, I am not sure. Does anybody know?

FWIW, I went from v1.6 something to version 5.0 under WinXP with no
issues. Hopefully, the same ease of upgrading would apply going to
5.3.

-- 
Geoff Lane
Cornwall, UK
--
Using The Bat! v5.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3



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Re: Upgrade from 4.0.24

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, January 1, 2010, Eric wrote:

> I've just received the notice of release 4.2.16.

> The on-line information seems to imply that it is a free upgrade from any 
> earlier version 4 release.

> I'd previously had the impression that an upgrade from my current
> version - 4.0.24 - would be charged for. [Which is why I'm still using it!]

> What is the correct position?

this depends on date, when You bought registration key. If You bought key
after 20 November 2007, You can freely upgrade your version to any 4.x
version, if before this date, You can freely update until 4.0.38.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3
with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.2.1
Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM


 



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Re: Upgrade question

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, at 20:46:14 [GMT +0200] (which was 20:46 where I
live) Peter Meyns wrote:

Hi Peter,

...<*snip*>

HMdB>> dash, dash, space, enter

HMdB>> You already are using a sig delimiter ;-)

HMdB>> --
HMdB>> Henk M. de Bruijn

> But yours is broken... :(

Sorry, solved that. I hope ;-)

-- 
Henk 
__
The Bat! Voyager version 4.0.32.1 Pro on Windows XP SP3
Antispamsniper for the Bat! 2.8.1.1
CSAPI & Hunspell spellchecker English & Dutch
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Re: Upgrade question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Teresa,

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:08:17 -0700 (PDT)GMT (25-8-2008, 21:08 +0200,
where I live), you wrote:

TE> I've set the sig delimiter - please let me know if it's not
TE> correct. Didn't mean to cause any problems.

TE> Teresa

TE>  -- 

Since you're asking. :-) No it isn't correct, otherwise it couldn't be
quoted. Yours starts with a space, the only space that's supposed to
be on that line is the last one.
But as soon as you've installed TB again, the default template will
include the cutsign.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

It is hard to believe that even his friends like him.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.0.28.4
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
3 pop3 accounts
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

pgpzn8yk8JMF4.pgp
Description: PGP signature

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Re: Upgrade question

[Teresa Eckford]

Thanks for all the info, Roelof :) Appreciate the quick response.

I've set the sig delimiter - please let me know if it's not correct. Didn't 
mean to cause any problems.

Teresa

 -- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


  

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Re: Upgrade question

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Henk,

on  Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:03:45 +0200GMT (25.08.2008, 19:03 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

>> What is, if I may ask, a signature delimiter?

HMdB> dash, dash, space, enter

HMdB> You already are using a sig delimiter ;-)

HMdB> --
HMdB> Henk M. de Bruijn

But yours is broken... :(

-- 
Cheers
Peter

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Re: Upgrade question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chrille,

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:43:05 +0200GMT (25-8-2008, 18:43 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

C> What is, if I may ask, a signature delimiter?

That's the dash dash space on a single line that many mail and usenet
clients use to indicate the end of the body and the begin of the
signature.
When quoting everything beneath the signature delimiter is ignored.
As you can see, I didn't quote your signature, because you used a
signature delimiter.
A signature is a tool against unnecessary quoting and it's courtesy
for those replying to your message that they don't have to trim your
signature from their quotes.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

And those who lack the courage say it's dangerous to try.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.0.28.4
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
3 pop3 accounts
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

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Re: Upgrade question

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Chrille,

on  Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:43:05 +0200GMT (25.08.2008, 18:43 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

C> Monday, August 25, 2008, 18:21:11, you wrote:

C> What is, if I may ask, a signature delimiter?

It is the  that you obviously have in your template
at the beginning of your signature. It makes the signature appear in
another size and font (if set so) and isn't quoted in a reply.

-- 
Cheers
Peter

"Example is not the main thing in influencing others. It is the only thing."
 Albert Schweitzer



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Re: Upgrade question

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Teresa,

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:00:00 -0700 (PDT)GMT (25-8-2008, 18:00 +0200,
where I live), you wrote:

TE> I"ve just scrubbed my computer and reinstalled the OS, so am reloading
TE> all my software. I figure this is a good time to upgrade to V4 of TB.

Now is as good time as ever.

TE> Do I need to install the old version first, then download the upgrade
TE> and install?

You don't have to install the old version first, though that might
depend on how old your current version is. I don't expect any problems
with a backup from v3, but a backup by an older version might be
difficult to restore, so if you were using v1 or v2 then a two step
install might be advisable.

TE>  Or can I just pay the upgrade price and download from the
TE> upgrade? 

There is no separate download file for an upgrade, you simply download
the install version and go with that. When you were using v3 you can
use the v3 license for the current version. The v3 license is still
valid for v4.0.x from v 4.1.x you'll need a new license. As the guys
at Ritlabs started publishing v4 versions since last year my guess is
that the first 4.1 version won't be far away now, so a license upgrade
to v4 will be necessary soon, I guess.

TE> Also, am I allowed a backup version on my laptop as long as both
TE> versions don't run at the same time?

Yep.

TE> Thanks :)

TE> Teresa


And please use a signature delimiter next time.


-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art.
http://www.voormijalleen.nl/
The Bat! 4.0.28.4
Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
3 pop3 accounts
OTFE enabled
Quad Core 2.4GHz
4 GB RAM

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Re: Upgrade to v4.0.11?

[Robin Anson]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 at 20:20:19 -0600, Greg wrote:> Hello Thomas,
> I've already installed. I want to buy the upgrade license. Can I
> purchase the upgrade license without being a returning customer at
> CIFNet authorization per https://www.cifnet.com/ritlabs/order.php ?

If you had a licensed copy of v3.x, it is still good for V4.0.x. There
is no need for a separate licence.

-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v4.0.11
  Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
  Popfile v0.22.4




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Re: Upgrade to v4.0.11?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Greg,

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:05:29 -0600 GMT (10/02/2008, 08:05 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:

GS> How can you upgrade to v4 on CIFnet when you either misplaced or
GS> never had a "Login" or "Password" for CIFnet?

I don't think I ever had such a login.

GS> I looked through my files and did not find a CIFnet "Login" or
GS> "Password", so maybe this is all new. Any ideals on how to get the
GS> upgrade to v4? TIA!

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Hier abgesellte Fahrzeuge werden brutal zerlegt!!! *
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

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Re: Upgrade?

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 8 September 2006 at 11:49:34 PM, in
, Mary Bull wrote:

> Maybe my memory is confused and only wishful thinking.

It was said on this list at the time that some people who had only
just purchased v1 a few days before the release of v2 were sent a
new key free when they contacted RIT.

> Buyer Beware, I reckon, should be the watchword.

Indeed.

-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back

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Re: Upgrade?

[Mary Bull]

Hello MFPA!

On Friday, September 08, 2006, 5:15 PM, you wrote:

>> Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got
>> 3.xx.

>> If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months,
>> anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in
>> the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought
>> within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within
>> the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one
>> being given to others who were upgrading.

> YMMV but I bought v2 *twelve days* before v3 was released. Several
> emails to RITlabs elicited the following standard reply:-

>>> You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The
>>> Bat! version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time
>>> limit in using. Upgrading is optional.

Maybe my memory is confused and only wishful thinking.

Buyer Beware, I reckon, should be the watchword.

-- 
Best regards,
Mary
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Re: Upgrade?

[MFPA]

Hi

On Friday 8 September 2006 at 4:36:50 AM, in
, Mary Bull wrote:

> Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got
> 3.xx.

> If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months,
> anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in
> the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought
> within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within
> the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one
> being given to others who were upgrading.

YMMV but I bought v2 *twelve days* before v3 was released. Several
emails to RITlabs elicited the following standard reply:-

>> You are not obliged to upgrade to the 3.xx version. The
>> Bat! version that you purchased is fully functional and has no time
>> limit in using. Upgrading is optional.

-- 
Best regards,
 
MFPA

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Re: Upgrade?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, September 07, 2006, 8:11 PM, you wrote:

SA>> Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released?

> Nobody in his right mind will answer this question . ...

:rofl2: Because my right mind--or is it left mind--just did!!

:woe:

-- 
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Mary
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Re: Upgrade?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Avi!

On Thursday, September 07, 2006, 7:57 PM, you wrote:

> My question is, 
> Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released?  If I
> upgrade now will I have to shell out more $$$ in a short while (say,
> within 12 months) because of a ver. 4 upgrade?

Anybody's guess. This is v. 3.85. Two years ago in September, we got
3.xx.

If you're being watchful of the price, I'd wait another three months,
anyway. However, when 3.xx came along, and some people got caught in
the situation you describe, IIRC correctly, those who had bought
within the last few days were given refunds for the upgrade. Within
the last few weeks, an even more substantial discount than the one
being given to others who were upgrading.

But this is total speculation. For myself, if v. 4.xx came out
tomorrow, I'd buy it. The improvements have been that great over the
last few beta series.

-- 
Best regards,
Mary
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Re: Upgrade?

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Avram,

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 you wrote in


SA> Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released?

How long is a piece of string springs to mind here :-)

If you're going to wait for version 4 then why not wait for 5 or 6?
Version 3 is a totally different beast to your version 1.62 and I think
you'll be pleasantly surprised. Anyway, you may well be entitled to a
free or vastly reduced upgrade should TB! bring out version 4 in the
near future. No mention has been made of it as yet. We're still chugging
through loads more beta testing.

-- 
Regards,
Richard

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Re: Upgrade?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Avram,

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:57:00 -0400 GMT (08/09/2006, 07:57 +0700 GMT),
Sacks, Avram wrote:

SA> Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released?

Nobody in his right mind will answer this question . The reason is
that v2 was delayed by more than a year, while v3 appeared suddenly
before a release was even rumoured.

SA> If I upgrade now will I have to shell out more $$$ in a short
SA> while (say, within 12 months) because of a ver. 4 upgrade?

No, you won't have to shell out more money. v3 will still be working
in 12 months, regardless of whether a v4 has been released by then.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

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RE: Upgrade?

[Sacks, Avram]

Mary Bull on Monday, September 04, 2006 at 4:25 PM wrote, in response to
a post by Jack S. LaRosa on TBUDL that asked about downloading the
latest version without having to shell out any more money:

> Yes, go ahead and get v. 3.85.01. So long as we are in the 3.xx
> series, your current registration number is good.

[snip]
 
> We had to pay for the upgrade (at a discount) from the 2.xx series to
> the 3.xx series. I expect that when and if 4.xx comes along, there'll
> be an upgrade charge then.


My question is, 
Does anyone know when it is likely that ver. 4 will be released?  If I
upgrade now will I have to shell out more $$$ in a short while (say,
within 12 months) because of a ver. 4 upgrade?


-- 
Avi
Still using The Bat, ver. 1.62r on Win XP Pro SP2
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Re: Upgrade?

[Mary Bull]

Hello Jack!

On Monday, September 04, 2006, 4:08 PM, you wrote:

> Can I go to the RIT Labs home page and simply download the latest
> version without having to shell out any more money? We used to be
> able to do this but the version I'm using now we had to pay for.

Yes, go ahead and get v. 3.85.01. So long as we are in the 3.xx
series, your current registration number is good.

I simply installed v. 3.85.01 over my current (beta) 3.81.18--which
was the beta rar for the 3.80.06 msi install. And I was good to go.
My registration number was automatically entered.

We had to pay for the upgrade (at a discount) from the 2.xx series to
the 3.xx series. I expect that when and if 4.xx comes along, there'll
be an upgrade charge then.

For now, no worries. :)

-- 
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Re: Upgrade?

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 you wrote in 

JSL> We used to be able to do this but the version I'm using now we had
JSL> to pay for.

Yup, no charge as it's just an upgrade of version 3. Actually, it's a
release version as of today.

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Richard

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Re: Upgrade from 1.62

[Dave Goodman]

On 3/7/2006 Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> The   term   "Match"   means  that  it  will  use  Regex.  If  you use
> "Contains" it does not use Regex.

Aha! Thanks, Stuart.

--

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Re: Upgrade from 1.62

[Dave Goodman]

>> I've been running the now antique v.1.62r and am about to upgrade to the
>> newest v.3.n. But there is a complication. For various reasons, v.1.62r
>> is installed on my D: drive, where it lives happily with all it's data.
>> ...

> A pain-free way, as to (de)installation itself, would be something like
> this...

> Copy your mail databases (usually the folder "Mail") somewhere on D:
> drive.

> Deinstall the old TB.

> Install the new TB (and tell it where the mail database is).

> The rest of the happenings is not necessarily pain-free though, ...

Thank you, Mica, for your thoughts. The upgrade to 3.x along with the
change to drive C: went quite smoothly with respect to the program installation
and the program finding the .TBB files. All is running smoothly, but you
were right... I'm having to do some of the configuration and filter set
up manually.

With regard to the new filtering setup, I see in the help file a
reference to "Advanced filtering conditions". But I do not see them
anywhere in the sorting office.

Also, I make considerable use of regex in filters, but I have not been
able to get them to work in the new filtering setup. In version 1.x
there was a checkbox for regex, but I don't find one in 3.x (unless it
is in the "Advanced filtering conditions" which I can't find.

If anyone would care to contribute a pointer on these to issues it would
be much appreciated.

--

Dave Goodman
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Re: Upgrade from 1.62

[Mica Mijatovic]

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   ***^\ ."_)~~
 ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 5 Mar 2006,
   @  @  at 20:17:26 -0500, when Dave Goodman wrote:

> I've been running the now antique v.1.62r and am about to upgrade to the
> newest v.3.n. But there is a complication. For various reasons, v.1.62r
> is installed on my D: drive, where it lives happily with all it's data.

> However, I now want to install the new v.3.n in the more customary
> C:\Program Files\xxx. It is essential that the mail databases be
> left on the D: drive and be accessible to the new installation on C:.

> I've been uncertain whether to just install the newer version to C:,
> then tell it where the .TBB files, etc. are, and then perhaps uninstall
> the old version. Or vice versa. Or whatever.

> Any words of wisdom on the best way to accomplish this in as pain-free a
> way as possible would be greatly appreciated.

A pain-free way, as to (de)installation itself, would be something like
this...

Copy your mail databases (usually the folder "Mail") somewhere on D:
drive.

Deinstall the old TB.

Install the new TB (and tell it where the mail database is).

  ***

The rest of the happenings is not necessarily pain-free though, so if
you have some more complex/specific filtering system or similar, it's
good then to do another copy of your "Mail" folder ("just in case"),
since "automatic" transfer into the new filtering systems and file
formats, coming with version 3, will not work always, so the pain might
be present woohoo.[1]


___

[1] Studying recently again some works of Monsieur de Sade (Comte
Donatien Alphonse Francois) though, I could not say for sure verily what
a proper treatments and estimations of the matters of a pain could be in
particular individual cases.

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Re: Upgrade/re-install question

[Mary Bull]

Hello Susanne!

On Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 2:32 AM, you wrote:

> I am currently running version 2.02.3 CE, and am wondering
> which version I can upgrade to for free (can't find that
> info on the ritlabs website).

Susanne, you had a good reply from Gerard. The latest you can upgrade
to for free is v. 2.12.00.

It was a pretty usable, stable version for me.

Here's the URL for the page from which you can download it, in case
you don't have that:

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php

-- 
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Mary
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Re: Upgrade/re-install question

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Susanne,

Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 9:32:27 AM, you wrote:

> I am currently running version 2.02.3 CE, and am wondering
> which version I can upgrade to for free (can't find that
> info on the ritlabs website).

Your v2 license works with every version of the v2 series.

The last stable release of the v2 series was version 2.12.00, this
version can be downloaded from the Ritlabs site.

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Re: Upgrade/re-install question

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 9:32:27 AM, you wrote:
S> I am currently running version 2.02.3 CE, and am wondering
S> which version I can upgrade to for free (can't find that
S> info on the ritlabs website).

S> Mainly, I will have to reformat my hard drive, and I can't
S> find the download of the version I am currently running.
S> I have my registration information, but as far as I know I
S> should install the same version when
S> I re-install all my programs after the reformat.

S> If I upgrade now, before the re-format, I could then use
S> that version to reinstall the Bat...

S>  I'm not quite sure my above mail explains what I mean
S> all that well.


Hi Susanne,

You can upgrade for free upto (but not including) version 3.
I would recommend the latest version 2.xx. I am not quite sure which on that is
.

All you need to reinstall TB! is a backup made with TB! and the mail with your
registration info and a version 2 install package

You simply reinstall TB and import the backup, point it to your registration
email and you are done.

-- 
Best regards,
 Gerard 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
There is no such thing as a golfer playing over his head. A hot streak is simply
a glimpse of a golfer´s true potential.

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Re: Upgrade from home to pro?

[Chris]

Darrin Rich @ 2004-Dec-19 1:46:23 AM
"Upgrade from home to pro?" 

> Sorry for being so lame, but what is On the fly encryption?

Simply put, your message base is encrypted. In the regular version of
The Bat!, the message base is stored unencrypted. Anyone with a text
editor and the proper permissions can read your downloaded e-mail.

As I see it, there are two ways to decrypt the message base. You can
either enter your password or insert a hardware token (usually a USB
key-like device).

-- 
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Re: Upgrade from home to pro?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Darrin,

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:19:36 -0800GMT (19-12-2004, 7:19 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

DR> What are the real pro features? I didnt see a whole lot of usefull
DR> differences between the pro and home edition. Am I missing something?

On the fly encryption
hardware token support
Only security related issues.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

FIDO: Fading Into Discreet Obsolescence

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Re: Upgrade from home to pro?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Darrin,

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:56:56 -0800GMT (18-12-2004, 14:56 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

D>   Im using the trial version of tbat now. If I decide to purchase the
D>   pro, must I install that one first? or can I just enter the pro
D>   license into this version?

You can simply enter the pro license number, the home and pro
installation files contain the same executable for TB.
The only difference between the two installation packages is that the
pro version contains additional languages, but you can download the
international pack for those too. (It works for home users too.)
TB's real pro features are unleashed by the license code.

-- 
Groetjes, Roelof

sorry, I don't date outside my species

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Re: Upgrade cleared Basyit Filter white&black lists

[Gerard]

ON Thursday, October 14, 2004, 3:19:03 AM, you wrote:
BM> I'm curious, my BayesIt! program directory is under
BM> TB!'s - the default.  My BayesIt! data directory is
BM> under Mail.  Specifically:

BM> Program Files
BM>The Bat!
BM>BayesIt

BM> data
BM>TheBat
BM>Mail
BM>bayesit

BM> How are you set up?

Hi Bill,

Notice the difference is only a !

Program Files
 Internet
   The Bat (program)
   Images
  Default
  Roques
  pcwimages
   BayesIt
  Logs

   TheBat!
   Attachements
   Mailstore

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 Gerard 
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Re: Upgrade cleared Basyit Filter white&black lists

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 9:22:19 PM, you wrote:
PO> Nope, worked just fine here. But, ok, here Bayes Filter doesn't live in
PO> TB's install directory.

Hi Peter,

I neither does in mine.

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 Gerard 
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courageous without first being afraid.

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Re: Upgrade cleared Basyit Filter white&black lists

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 9:25:23 PM, you wrote:
BM> I backed them up - just in case.

I did backt up TB! never thought about the lists.

BM> However the install was smooth as silk (so far)

Here to.

BM> and both my black and white lists were untouched.

And there is were it differs.

A well, it's not a biggy. Nothing that 10 min of meditation can't cure ;-)

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 Gerard 
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Re: Upgrade cleared Basyit Filter white&black lists

[Bill McCarthy]

On Wed 13-Oct-04 1:44pm -0400, Gerard wrote:

> I just upgraded to TB! 3.0.1 and found that my Basyit
> Filter white&black files were empty.

I backed them up - just in case.  However the install
was smooth as silk (so far) and both my black and white
lists were untouched.

-- 
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Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez wrote:

AM>> Yes, it means running the complete installation.

TF> You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first.

Yes, thanks. :)

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Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 05:47:41 -0500 GMT (07/06/2004, 17:47 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

C>> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did
C>> not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean
C>> to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to
C>> exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ?

AM> Yes, it means running the complete installation.

You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first.

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Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

[Allie Martin]

Cyrille, [C] wrote:

C> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did
C> not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean
C> to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to
C> exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ?

Yes, it means running the complete installation.

Simply run the install. It will automatically update the old one.
Uninstalling and then reinstalling the newer version isn't necessary.

In fact, on the TB! download page, below the table listing the files
for download is:

,- /  \
| * Note for users of previous versions of The Bat! - do not uninstall
| your existing copy of The Bat! - just install the new version over. It
| will save your breath and time.
`-

C> What other files does the installation exe update?

C> Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run
C> the installation exe?

For full releases you may miss updates to files like the help.

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Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello Cyrille,

On 7 Jun 2004 at 08:24:50 +0200 GMT [08:24 CEST] you wrote:

C> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand
C> one thing:
C> When you say "install over" do you mean to run the complete
C> installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe
C> against the new thebat.exe ?

C> What other files does the installation exe update?

C> Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run
C> the installation exe?

Without the installation you will not get the smilies and if there were
any updates to the helpfile you will miss those as well.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ETM]

>> Anyone know where I can download v1.62r? I inadvertently
>> kept 1.61 and discarded 1.62r

> http://www.thegoat.net/public/TheBat/

Also at

http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

Paul Berger wrote:
> Anyone know where I can download v1.62r? I inadvertently kept 1.61 and
> discarded 1.62r


http://www.thegoat.net/public/TheBat/

(I assume this is OK since all require registration keys)

-- 
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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

Jonathan Angliss wrote:
> I can give you hope


Thank you for your post.  I have come to a workable solution for now,
while I anxiously await the stability and feature set that The Bat's
potential hints at.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Jean,

@28-Jan-2004, 10:50 +0100 (28-Jan 09:50 UK time) Jean Site [JS] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

>> is may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
>> first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
>> accounts.

JS> you switch the accounts to POP3 first!

JS> How can I do that?

You can only do that while upgrading from v1 to v2. You can't do it
if (as you are) you are already running v2. While in v1, just change
the Account properties | Transport settings from IMAP to POP3.

(PS: nice "trim to context" - thank you!).

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Tuesday, January 27, 2004, ken green wrote...

M>> These instructions were an integral part of the beta cycle for v2.

> If a Bat user purchases an upgrade to the Christmas Edition, THEY
> HAVE TO BE ON THE BETA LIST to get through the problems of
> installation?

Not entirely the case. The issues relating to this upgrade were much
discussed on TBUDL as well. It's just those that like to live on the
bleeding edge became experienced in such issues before others, and
were able to help out more.

> You are lucky that you are not trying to get IMAP to work. Do you
> access e-mail from more than one computer? I'd love to hear how you
> do that and what's working for you. I'm willing to keep trying to
> get things working, but the last few hours have seemed like I was
> going backwards...

I use IMAP, but then I'm on of those that lives on the edge. I can
give you hope... IMAP is improving greatly. The next release will
certainly hold improvements.

> As far problems with v2 - go back through the mail archives. There
> have been problems that are certainly not limited to IMAP (column
> width, missing messages, HTML, etc.)

Yes, from what I remember, they introduced a new view modes feature
around then.. That is another item that has certainly improved
dramatically in the latest betas, so keep your eyes open for the next
release.

> Sure, software can't be perfect. There are going to be bugs. But
> that doesn't mean those bugs aren't important and shouldn't be
> addressed. At the same time, it's not fair to focus only on the
> negative. Yes, v2 appears to be a big improvement over v1. I won't
> deny that. I was excited about the improvements. Unfortunately, I
> could only enjoy those improvements for a day and a half before
> hitting big problems on my desktop. It's like someone stole
> Christmas...

I can honestly understand where you are coming from. When I first
installed the early 1.63 betas which was about the time of IMAP, there
were problems... they are ironing them out... as they do with all
bugs... yes everybody on the beta list was pretty upset at RitLabs for
releasing the first 2.x version... but since then, things have made a
tremendous improvement.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

quoting Marck D Pearlstone:
K>> If there were no such thing, why is there a CONVERSION PROCESS
K>> during the upgrade?

M> Pass - I didn't know they'd been added.

OK.  We were coming from different places.


M> These instructions were an integral part of the beta cycle for v2.

If a Bat user purchases an upgrade to the Christmas Edition, THEY HAVE
TO BE ON THE BETA LIST to get through the problems of installation?

What's wrong with that picture?  (I realize this isn't your fault)




M> I agree. It should be described as a manual, pre-upgrade step, as it
M> was in the beta cycle. It seems to me that it's too dangerous to let
M> it convert automatically en-route.

OK, we're in agreement.  :)




K>> Oh come on... to say "everything seems to be doing OK" is
K>> completely relative. Your response was either in jest, or naive
K>> and myopic. Surely you haven't missed the numerous problems with
K>> v2.?

M>  Ouch! where did that come from? I thought you were saying v2
M> was fine on the laptop after a clean install? I'm sure that's what
M> you said. That's what I'm agreeing with.

Sorry.  I was venting and quite frustrated.  I have wasted entirely
too much time trying to get The Bat working the way I want.  My
success on the laptop was a short-lived victory.




M> As for "numerous problems". No. I've seen reports of numerous
M> gotchas in configuring IMAP. But v2 is still a major improvement
M> over v1 in *every* respect for all users, even for IMAP. Okay, I
M> don't use IMAP and as a result my frustration levels are sat at zero
M> .. nowhere near the volcanic peaks you seem to have hit with it all
M> :-).

You are lucky that you are not trying to get IMAP to work.  Do you
access e-mail from more than one computer?  I'd love to hear how you
do that and what's working for you.  I'm willing to keep trying to get
things working, but the last few hours have seemed like I was going
backwards...

As far problems with v2 - go back through the mail archives.  There
have been problems that are certainly not limited to IMAP (column
width, missing messages, HTML, etc.)

Sure, software can't be perfect. There are going to be bugs. But that
doesn't mean those bugs aren't important and shouldn't be addressed.
At the same time, it's not fair to focus only on the negative. Yes, v2
appears to be a big improvement over v1. I won't deny that. I was
excited about the improvements. Unfortunately, I could only enjoy
those improvements for a day and a half before hitting big problems on
my desktop. It's like someone stole Christmas...




>>> This may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
>>> first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
>>> accounts.

K>> Will do.  Thanks for the help.

M> I try. Sorry if I'm coming over as glib here - don't intend to at
M> all. Just trying to keep up with the twists and turns of the saga.


A saga it is  My apologies for venting at you and taking your
comments personally.  I realize you're trying to help.  But I hate
that you're not using IMAP!  ;)

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Ken,

@27-Jan-2004, 18:14 -0600 (28-Jan 00:14 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

K>>> My main business account Inbox came back empty (from the IMAP to Pop
K>>> conversion?)

>> Hang on a minute... I didn't think there was such a thing.

K> If there were no such thing, why is there a CONVERSION PROCESS
K> during the upgrade?

Pass - I didn't know they'd been added.

K> Are you talking about something else?

No.

K> The conversion process is part of the install for v2. A message
K> box comes up, reporting that IMAP folder will be created as POP.
K> There is even an apology for the inconvenience <-- there's an
K> understatement! :)

During the beta cycle, we were told to convert to POP3 before
upgrading. I didn't know that it had been automated. I would assume
that the automatic procedure was tested before incorporating it into
the release. Clearly, it was not tested on all configurations and
permutations. Your configuration obviously tripped it up.

>> The instructions for the upgrade were always to convert IMAP accounts
>> to POP *before* upgrading.

K> Where are those instructions?

These instructions were an integral part of the beta cycle for v2.

... 

>> There is no transition from v1 IMAP to v2 IMAP.

K> Right. That fact is established. But there is a transition
K> process during v2 install that converts IMAP accounts to POP. If
K> that doesn't work, why not just pop up a window that says:
K> "Please convert all IMAP account to POP so that The Bat doesn't
K> screw your message base up, cause you to unistall, and revert to
K> your backup."

I agree. It should be described as a manual, pre-upgrade step, as it
was in the beta cycle. It seems to me that it's too dangerous to let
it convert automatically en-route.

K>>> When I stripped all things Bat from my laptop and did a clean
K>>> install of v2, everything seems to be doing OK.

>> ... as I (or anyone) would expect.

K> Oh come on... to say "everything seems to be doing OK" is
K> completely relative. Your response was either in jest, or naive
K> and myopic. Surely you haven't missed the numerous problems with
K> v2.?

 Ouch! where did that come from? I thought you were saying v2
was fine on the laptop after a clean install? I'm sure that's what
you said. That's what I'm agreeing with.

As for "numerous problems". No. I've seen reports of numerous
gotchas in configuring IMAP. But v2 is still a major improvement
over v1 in *every* respect for all users, even for IMAP. Okay, I
don't use IMAP and as a result my frustration levels are sat at zero
.. nowhere near the volcanic peaks you seem to have hit with it all
:-).

K>>> I was feeling good about The Bat again. I'm now going to have to
K>>> spend time trying to get back to 1.62r and see if I can recover
K>>> some messages

>> This may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
>> first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
>> accounts.

K> Will do.  Thanks for the help.

I try. Sorry if I'm coming over as glib here - don't intend to at
all. Just trying to keep up with the twists and turns of the saga.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

Marck D Pearlstone wrote:
K>> My main business account Inbox came back empty (from the IMAP to Pop
K>> conversion?)

> Hang on a minute... I didn't think there was such a thing.

If there were no such thing, why is there a CONVERSION PROCESS during
the upgrade? Are you talking about something else? The conversion
process is part of the install for v2. A message box comes up, reporting
that IMAP folder will be created as POP. There is even an apology for
the inconvenience <-- there's an understatement! :)



> The instructions for the upgrade were always to convert IMAP accounts
> to POP *before* upgrading.

Where are those instructions?



> This was known not to work during the process of an upgrade. At least,
> that's how it was during beta testing.

Perhaps.  This was not a beta install.  This was installing CE.



K>> The upgrade procedure STINKS.

> This may be true, but we were always told to do the conversion
> manually before upgrading.

When you say "we were always told" what are you referring to?  I may
have missed that memo.




> There is no transition from v1 IMAP to v2 IMAP.

Right.  That fact is established.  But there is a transition process
during v2 install that converts IMAP accounts to POP.  If that doesn't
work, why not just pop up a window that says: "Please convert all IMAP
account to POP so that The Bat doesn't screw your message base up, cause
you to unistall, and revert to your backup."



> I don't know what happened to that advice and why it's not in the
> standard v2 upgrade procedure.

It sounds like I missed this advice.



K>> When I stripped all things Bat from my laptop and did a clean
K>> install of v2, everything seems to be doing OK.

> ... as I (or anyone) would expect.

Oh come on... to say "everything seems to be doing OK" is completely
relative.  Your response was either in jest, or naive and myopic. Surely
you haven't missed the numerous problems with v2.?



K>> What a shame...

> Indeed.

Not as cute as you probably intended.



K>> I was feeling good about The Bat again. I'm now going to have to
K>> spend time trying to get back to 1.62r and see if I can recover
K>> some messages

> This may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
> first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
> accounts.

Will do.  Thanks for the help.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Ken,

@27-Jan-2004, 17:35 -0600 (27-Jan 23:35 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to ken:

... 

K> Would it help to set all accounts to POP and do another full
K> backup in 1.62? Then try to restore from that?

This is the optimum route.

... 

K> One more thing... I seem to recall seeing something about icon
K> sets but cannot remember if that was for custom icons or what.
K> When I upgraded my desktop (v.2_CE over 1.62r) the icons remained
K> what they were. When I installed v2 on my laptop (clean install)
K> I got the new icon set.

K> What's up?

Remove the glyphs.bmp file manually, since it's a manual addition
and applies to both v1 and v2.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

Marten Gallagher wrote:
> But you did a backup and an EML export first didn't you.. so that's alright then ;-))


Backup yes.  EML export no.  Why EML export?  Are you kidding?  Create
over 60,000 EML files?

Full restore after reverting back to 1.62 seems to be OK.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Ken,

@27-Jan-2004, 17:18 -0600 (27-Jan 23:18 UK time) ken green [K] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

K> My main business account Inbox came back empty (from the IMAP to
K> Pop conversion?)

Hang on a minute... I didn't think there was such a thing. The
instructions for the upgrade were always to convert IMAP accounts to
POP *before* upgrading. This was known not to work during the
process of an upgrade. At least, that's how it was during beta
testing.

... 

K> Both this account and my business account showed up as IMAP -
K> even after the installation process told me they would be
K> converted to POP.

K> The upgrade procedure STINKS.

This may be true, but we were always told to do the conversion
manually before upgrading. There is no transition from v1 IMAP to v2
IMAP. I don't know what happened to that advice and why it's not in
the standard v2 upgrade procedure.

K> PROCEED WITH CAUTION!

K> When I stripped all things Bat from my laptop and did a clean
K> install of v2, everything seems to be doing OK.

... as I (or anyone) would expect.

K> No so on the desktop where I tried to upgrade.

K> What a shame...

Indeed.

K> I was feeling good about The Bat again. I'm now going to have to
K> spend time trying to get back to 1.62r and see if I can recover
K> some messages

This may indeed work, but make sure you switch the accounts to POP3
first and backup the messages you want to keep safe from any IMAP
accounts.

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[ken green]

> Well, I decided to take the plunge and upgrade my desktop to v2.

UPDATE: uninstalled TB (leaving message base directories intact),
re-installed 1.62r, full restore...

everything seems back to normal.

Now...

I would *LIKE* to use the v2 I paid for.  What is the best way to
upgrade to v2?  Should I export all my folders to Unix mailboxes?  Do
I need to completely uninstall again and try installing v2 from the
outset?  How will that handle a restore from a 1.62 backup?

Would it help to set all accounts to POP and do another full backup in
1.62?  Then try to restore from that?

I'm trying here...  but this is a lot of work for a COMMERCIAL product
that I paid for.  Come on, RIT LABs  get it together...  Please.

One more thing... I seem to recall seeing something about icon sets
but cannot remember if that was for custom icons or what. When I
upgraded my desktop (v.2_CE over 1.62r) the icons remained what they
were. When I installed v2 on my laptop (clean install) I got the new
icon set.

What's up?

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Re: upgrade: WARNING!

[Marten Gallagher]

On Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 11:18:01 PM, you wrote:

> Well, I decided to take the plunge and upgrade my desktop to v2.

[snip]

> I was feeling good about The Bat again.  I'm now going to have to
> spend time trying to get back to 1.62r and see if I can recover some
> messages

But you did a backup and an EML export first didn't you.. so that's alright then ;-))



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Re: Upgrade and transfer help sought.

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Leonard,

Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 8:06:28 AM, you wrote:
LSB> Is there an upgrade fee for 2.0?

From the 1.x version to the 2.x version, yes there is an upgrade fee.




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Re: Upgrade and transfer help sought.

[Darrin]

Hi,
On Wednesday at 6:38 AM you wrote:
LSB> I see that there are three versions of 2.0: 2.00.6, 2.01.3 and 2.02.3.
LSB> Is there any reason not to download the lastest and greatest?

Some users are having a few problems with 2.02.3 CE. I for one dont
have any problems. You may wish to hold off on the latest and get
2.01.3 for now.

LSB> Then, after upgrading, I am interested in moving the software,
LSB> including mailboxes, address books, etc. to a new computer. Where can
LSB> I find information on how to do this?
After installing your new version. Backup by going to Tools/Backup
within TB!. Download TB! on your other pc. Go to Tools/Restore and it
should restore everything as it was on your previous pc just fine. It
has always worked for me after reinstalling windows.


 

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Re: Upgrade problems

[Susanne]

 

Hi,

Sunday, December 28, 2003, 1:26:28 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It sounds to me like you've done a CD restore at some point
> and left
> your executable and many other files setup as Read Only. That
> would
> behave the way you're suggesting.

Thanks!

This was indeed the problem, and after changing the file
attributes, TB CE installed without a problem.

I had transferred TB from an old computer per CD a couple of
years ago.

Now to get used to the new look, and trying to find out what
"Inbox-Known" is...

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Re: Upgrade problems

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Susanne,

@28-Dec-2003, 13:04 -0800 (28-Dec 21:04 UK time) Susanne [S] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

S> Any advice as to what I'm missing?

It sounds to me like you've done a CD restore at some point and left
your executable and many other files setup as Read Only. That would
behave the way you're suggesting.

You'd have to use Windows Explorer to modify the file properties of
all of the files in the c:\Program Files\The Bat!\ folder not to be
Read Only.

You should certainly *not* have needed to install to a separate
directory. That's one sure fire way of losing the very settings you
wanted to keep.

Then again you've taken a huge leap of an upgrade. 1.53 is a very
old version of the software. Most people are upgrading from 1.6
versions. I don't know if anyone has any advice about that.

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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

[Raf Hofmans]

Hello,

S> Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my
S> password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm
S> certain I am using the correct one.

You'll have to buy a new key. Tip: thanks to the RitLabs Christmas
Discount, you can upgrade your current version for 14 US$. Check the
link below

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=389

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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

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folders you should rename them to something else as TB!v2 will convert
them  to  account  folders.  If  you have folder templates assigned to
manually  created  folders  named  Inbox and Sent you won't be able to
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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

[Scott Frederick]

Hello Thomas,

Saturday, December 27, 2003, 9:07:33 PM, you wrote:

TF> [...] But you can currently buy an upgrade key for a special
TF> discount, if you advise the S/N of your TB v1.xx version.

You don't even need your old serial number. Just buy the upgrade and
when the key arrives by email it will recognise the valid v1.xx
installation. Very smooth, and in my case very handy because I had
lost my v1.xx password.

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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:43:14 -0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 08:43 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

>> Some settings will stay. New features or reworked features may
>> require reconfiguration.

> How about folders and filters?

IIRC my column settings disappeared and I had to redo them. Other than
that, everything staid the same.

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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:39:10 -0800 GMT (28/12/2003, 04:39 +0700 GMT),
Susanne wrote:

> Also, while I still have the key I purchased years ago, my
> password is being rejected as incorrect, even though I'm
> certain I am using the correct one.

I think you'll need to buy a new key for v2 anyway, as the original
key you purchased was valid for all 1.xx versions only. But you can
currently buy an upgrade key for a special discount, if you advise the
S/N of your TB v1.xx version.

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Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie regelmaessig mit Butter
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Re: Upgrade to version 2?

[Susanne]

 

Hi,

Saturday, December 27, 2003, 5:55:27 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello Susanne,

> Saturday, December 27, 2003, 6:43:14 PM, you wrote:

>> How about folders and filters?

> I don't think I had to change a single thing when I
> upgraded (except the registration).

Thanks, that helps my decision!

and

Saturday, December 27, 2003, 5:50:46 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You should be OK with those, but you should backup prior to a major
> upgrade. Strange, inexplicable, things happen at times. :)

Believe me, I'll definitely back up TB before upgrading! :)

If something goes wrong, I can always go back to the old
version, if I have to...

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