Re: Mailing List filters
On Sunday, January 09, 2000, 2:28:08 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: Sunday, January 09, 2000, 9:38:30 AM, Nick wrote: Steve, what is the theory/purpose behind filtering all Mailing List mail to one main Folder, and then re-filtering from there to your various other List-specific Folders... that filtering those mails to various folders from the Inbox wouldn't serve? I don't do that. I misunderstood what you were asking. In fact, I'm actually quite confused on why you are asking it in the first place. It's not important... forget it. I must have misunderstood an earlier message in this thread referring to a 'catch-all mailing list filter'. From that post, I presumed that all mail from Mailing Lists would be filtered into one folder for reading, and then the read mail from there, would be further re-filtered into individual folders... one for each Mailing List. It just seemed redundant to me, and I was questioning the advantages/disadvantages of doing it that way. Nick --- -=Nick Andriash=- MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Hi there! On 10 Jan 00, at 13:27, tracer wrote about "Re[2]: Mailing List filters": That was a side-efefect of your celebrations... Alexander Seems it wasn't me. I never use the word "bash";-) But hey, *don't* you bash Alexander everything when dreaming? I somehow doubt this;-)) I thought you ran Linux Yup, and I understand what you're talking about, but I ment I never use "bash" word when writing/speaking in literal English (well, it's literal to the same extent to which I'm similar to Pope of Rome, but anyway;-)) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything which is not prohibited is compulsory. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Sunday, January 09, 2000, 10:27:00 PM, tracer wrote: I thought you ran Linux I do. My shell is zsh. Bash is too much of a bloated pig. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Saturday, January 08, 2000, 12:25:01 PM, Alexander wrote: You got it right. Just Steve is dreaming aloud, as it's characteristic for him;-) Hey now, I thought it was characteristic of me to bash everything and never say anything positive. At least that is what someone said about me recently. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 08:43:49PM +0700, tracer wrote:
No idea, I use one filter per mailing list and send them to folders
in an account which will never dial out or in called mailing lists...
As far as I can see you have no way of getting all mailing lists in
one go and if you could it would cost me a LOT more time making the
expression then to make an extra filter...
Then you don't know regex, do you? Here's the perlized version to catch
all lists off listar, majordomo and LSERV.
if (($line =~ m/^X-List: (.*)/) ||
($line =~ m/^Sender: owner-(.*)@/) ||
($line =~ m/^Sender: (.*)-owner@/)){
$filter_to = $account/Mailing Lists/$1;
}
I could, if I felt like it, merge all that into one regex, but sometimes
it is faster to compile three simpler regex instead of one complex one. That
logic, along with the ability to use the register results in the folder area,
would catch most of the email list traffic out there.
Took me 1 minute to make that pseudo code. Takes me about the same time
to make one filter. I have over 30 lists on my two accounts. ~30 minutes
compared to ~1 minute. Which is faster agian? :)
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Re: Mailing List filters
Hi there! On 9 Jan 00, at 4:02, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: Mailing List filters": Saturday, January 08, 2000, 12:25:01 PM, Alexander wrote: You got it right. Just Steve is dreaming aloud, as it's characteristic for him;-) Hey now, I thought it was characteristic of me to bash everything and never say anything positive. At least that is what someone said about me recently. :P Seems it wasn't me. I never use the word "bash";-) But hey, *don't* you bash everything when dreaming? I somehow doubt this;-)) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: THE ROAD TO SUCCESS IS ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Sunday, January 09, 2000, 8:39:11 AM, dMb wrote: Once you've filtered all your mailing list messages into a folder/account, do you then filter them again into separate subfolders, one for each list? Yes. Mailing list, subfolder for each mailing list. I realize that each additional filter slows processing down, so any way to streamline it would be appreciated. Well, what I am talking about can't happen yet with TB!. I know it works, however, as a friend of mine does it all the time with his mailing list mail with procmail doing the filtering at delivery time. For each of the specialized folders you could keep those, but reduce the "normal" mailing list filters down to a single regex filter. That is if they allowed macros in the filter to folder name, allowed TB to create folders if they aren't already there, and allowed the macros to read from the previous regex's registers. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sunday, January 09, 2000, 8:53:41 AM, Steve Lamb wrote: Sunday, January 09, 2000, 8:39:11 AM, dMb wrote: Once you've filtered all your mailing list messages into a folder/account, do you then filter them again into separate subfolders, one for each list? Yes. Mailing list, subfolder for each mailing list. Steve, what is the theory/purpose behind filtering all Mailing List mail to one main Folder, and then re-filtering from there to your various other List-specific Folders... that filtering those mails to various folders from the Inbox wouldn't serve? Seems to me like a redundant step, but I'm sure I'm missing something here. Perhaps you have all mail coming to your Inbox, and then are manually filtering from there? I'm on 8 relatively high volume Mailing Lists, and I don't seem to have any trouble filtering directly from the Inbox into each Mailing List-specific Folder I've set-up. Nick --- -=Nick Andriash=- MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:38:30 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: Yes. Mailing list, subfolder for each mailing list. Steve, what is the theory/purpose behind filtering all Mailing List mail to one main Folder, and then re-filtering from there to your various other List-specific Folders... that filtering those mails to various folders from the Inbox wouldn't serve? Seems to me like a redundant step, but I'm sure I'm missing something here. Perhaps you have all mail coming to your Inbox, and then are manually filtering from there? No, not a redundant step at all. It allows him to read all mailing list mail in one central location and then they are filtered to their respective subfolders. I'm on 8 relatively high volume Mailing Lists, and I don't seem to have any trouble filtering directly from the Inbox into each Mailing List-specific Folder I've set-up. It's easier to just read messages from 1 folder instead of eight. -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Compassion -- that's the one thing no machine ever had. ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sunday, January 09, 2000, 11:10:50 AM, Allie Martin wrote: No, not a redundant step at all. It allows him to read all mailing list mail in one central location and then they are filtered to their respective subfolders. Oh, I see. Alright, then the messages that would be re-filtered from that point, would all be 'read' messages, correct? In that case, all of the Mailing List-specific folders that those read messages would be re-filtered to, would then act as some kind of archive for each List? Interesting. It's easier to just read messages from 1 folder instead of eight. Hmmm... perhaps... to some. Personally, I would find it confusing to start reading 500 messages from 8 different Mailing Lists in one folder. I find it much easier to filter from the Inbox directly into each Mailing List Folder. One glance at the Folder Tree on the left shows me what Folders have new mail, and how many, and I can quickly choose which ones, if any, to read. Once I read them, messages I want to keep, are then put into their respective archive folders, which I've set up as sub folders of each Mailing List folder. I have to do that manually for now, as I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the Read Messages Filter section yet... but I will. I'm really enjoying The Bat, and hopefully my new registration will arrive via E-Mail on Monday or Tuesday. When it does, Outlook 2k will officially be rendered as my back-up Mailer. :o) If version 2 is anything like Leif claims it is, then I'll also be able to relegate Netscape to back-up as well. I've tried Opera, but find it extremely difficult/frustrating to set up News reading and Mail, to say nothing of the trouble getting Plug-ins to work. Nick --- -=Nick Andriash=- MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:34:57 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: It's easier to just read messages from 1 folder instead of eight. Hmmm... perhaps... to some. Personally, I would find it confusing to start reading 500 messages from 8 different Mailing Lists in one folder. Well, certainly in a situation like that it becomes counterproductive and chaotic. :) I find it much easier to filter from the Inbox directly into each Mailing List Folder. One glance at the Folder Tree on the left shows me what Folders have new mail, and how many, and I can quickly choose which ones, if any, to read. Once I read them, messages I want to keep, are then put into their respective archive folders, which I've set up as sub folders of each Mailing List folder. I have to do that manually for now, as I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the Read Messages Filter section yet... but I will. That's how I did it before but I have since changed since I usually check my mail often enough that the chaos of 500 messages in a central location doesn't greet me. :)) -- -=Allie=- | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ Do NOT look into laser with remaining eyeball! ] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
On Sunday, January 09, 2000, 11:48:21 AM, Allie Martin wrote: That's how I did it before but I have since changed since I usually check my mail often enough that the chaos of 500 messages in a central location doesn't greet me. :)) :o) When I'm home all day, I stay on top of the situation very well, but I work 11 hour shifts, and when I get home, I will have, depending on the day, approximately 200-500 messages waiting to be read. The way I have things set up, work nicely for me, and if I was getting fewer messages, I might look at the concept of one Mailing List Folder... then re-filter read messages from there. I might even give that a try on a couple of Mailing Lists I have light traffic on, and see how it works for me. Off to work now... thanks for replying Allie. Nick --- -=Nick Andriash=- MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Keys available from KeyServers --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Sunday, January 09, 2000, 9:38:30 AM, Nick wrote: Steve, what is the theory/purpose behind filtering all Mailing List mail to one main Folder, and then re-filtering from there to your various other List-specific Folders... that filtering those mails to various folders from the Inbox wouldn't serve? I don't do that. I misunderstood what you were asking. In fact, I'm actually quite confused on why you are asking it in the first place. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Hello Nick, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 at 11:34:57 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA If version 2 is anything like Leif claims it is, then I'll also be NA able to relegate Netscape to back-up as Ack,ack... foul.. misquote (or bad wording on my part!) grin I did not mean to imply that TB2 will be a browser! RITLABS is going to write a browser! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site http://www.pcwize.com TBUDL FAQ http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Sort of like an inverse Einstein. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Mailing List filters
Hi there! On 8 Jan 00, at 22:24, Andrew K. Lovetski wrote about "Mailing List filters": Steve Lamb wrote: I prefer to have one regex filter that would catch mailing list mail and filter it into a folder under the "Mailing Lists" folder using the name of the mailing list that sent it. That way when I add new mailing lists I don't have to add a new filter. If I want the mail from a particular list to go elsewhere, I'll then create a filter to run before the "catch-all mailing lists" filter. How can I setup such a filtering system? AFAIS, I can specify only a particular folder to put messages in. No regexps are allowed in folder's name... Or is it not possible in the current version of TB? You got it right. Just Steve is dreaming aloud, as it's characteristic for him;-) -- SY, Alex (St.Petersburg, Russia) http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev --- Thought for the day: Today is the difference between yesterday and tomorrow. --- PGP public keys on keyservers: 0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS) fingerprints: F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA) A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS) --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
