Re: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread Allie Martin
Michael Thompson, [MT] wrote:

MT Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a
MT PGP signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer,
MT it opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding
MT it to my keyring.

MT Any ideas?

I assume that you've enabled the PGP 8 integration with TB! by going to
Tools/OpenPGP/'Choose OpenPGP Version'?

After doing that, go to Tools/OpenPGP/OpenPGP Preferences.

The PGP options dialog should appear.

Go to the Servers tab and enable the option:

Synchronize with server upon ... verification.

You can now try checking a signature signed with a key not on your
keyring. The autochecking mechanism should be triggered. If it's not,
then I don't know what's wrong. Likely a problem with your PGP
installation.

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss

 When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should
 automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key.
 Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you
 should hit SELECT then IMPORT. Once you have imported the key open
 PGPKeys and select that key then select SIGN. If you have configured
 your PGP properly is should then attempt to connect to a public key
 server and update that signed key.

Of course, you sign the key only when you have verified it good, by
contacting the owner of the key... You never know who may be tweaking ;) 
Or who is relying on your signature. :)

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-28 Thread Peter Meyns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Michael,

on Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:05:43 +0100GMT (28.08.03, 20:05 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MT   Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP
MT   signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it
MT   opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it
MT   to my keyring.

MT   Any ideas?

MT   I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5

I have no experience with PGP 8. With 6.5.8 I had to provide some key
servers in PGP keys. Now every time TB! encounters an unknown key it
connects to the key servers and tries to retrieve it. It didn't work
with your key. Where can I get your public key to verify your signature?

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-28 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, Michael Thompson wrote...

   Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP
   signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it
   opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it
   to my keyring.

There should be an option in PGP that will automatically fetch PGP
keys, it's not an option inside TB iirc. I'm not sure where it is in
PGP 8 however.

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Re: PGP signature

2003-08-28 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Thursday, August 28, 2003
6:19:16 PM (GMT -05:00)
RE: PGP signature

Greetings Michael,

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 2:05:43 PM, you wrote:

Michael   Is there any way to add some ones key from a message? When I get a PGP
Michael   signed message, and click on the signature button on the viewer, it
Michael   opens the PGP log window, but there seems to be no way off adding it
Michael   to my keyring.

Michael   Any ideas?

Michael   I am using PGP Version 8 and The Bat! version 2/b5

As well as with yours. Your key seems not to be available from any public
key server.

Anyway ...

When you select to verify the key of another your PGP should
automatically scan the public key servers for that individuals key.
Once located a box should pop up with the key information and you
should hit SELECT then IMPORT. Once you have imported the key open
PGPKeys and select that key then select SIGN. If you have configured
your PGP properly is should then attempt to connect to a public key
server and update that signed key.


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 DG Raftery Sr.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Gavin Sinclair wrote...

 A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
 PGP signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.

 :-) One person's forest of crap might be another's wondrous
 choreography of sparkling ciphertext! Well, at least it could mean
 something to those who understand its reason for being.

 True :)  I understand their meaning and still think it's a forest of
 crap.  Even if I thought signing messages in a public forum were a
 brilliant idea, I'd still think it's noise, because it's metadata, not
 actual message.  It belongs in the same category as all the header
 information that we care about, but don't really need to see.

This is where PGP/MIME signatures would come in handy :) You wouldn't
see that 'crap' as it'd be an attached signature.

 BTW I'm pretty sure some other mailers (Mozilla? KMail?) hide the
 PGP/GnuPG/OpenPGP metadata from view (which is all I want, not to
 see it removed), and it seems like a pretty good idea for TB!

It depends on the format. I am not sure you'll find Mozilla stripping
the pgp signatures from view if it is an inline signature, but you
probably wouldn't see it if it was PGP/MIME signed. There is Sylpheed
(or was it evolution... Syafril will probably know... I've completely
forgotten myself) on Linux (there is a win32 version too) that does
replace the normal PGP signatures (inline ones that is) with a
padlock.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Melissa!

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 12:03:07 AM you wrote:

M -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
M Hash: SHA1

M On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 8:27:37 PM PST, Gavin Sinclair
M wrote:

 A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
 PGP signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.

 ... 

M There is a regex macro that you can use in your TB! reply templates to
M strip PGP signature material - and other stuff - from quoted text in
M replies:

M [all one line in a template]:

M %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP
M %-SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-%
M - -BEGIN PGP
M SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|_{64,}\n.*MSN|\z)%-%REGEXPBLINDMAT
M CH=%text%SUBPATT=4'

 ... 

One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls from
heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick Templates, then I
used the backspace button to turn it into one long line.

And it works! In order to comply with a request that Leif Gregory made
of me when I first joined this list in October, 2002, I have been
manually stripping everything below the cut line (delimiter)for months
now, before replying to it on the list. What a joy to use your
expression on this reply to you and have everything gone in one click. :)

Slightly off this subject: many people are not providing a double
hyphen cut line which actually works in writing to this list. My
memory of the way Leif explained it to me is that there should be two
line spaces (two clicks of Enter) both above and below the cut line
(two hyphens plus a click of the space bar).

If the two clicks of Enter below the hyphens don't happen, the cut line
will not function. According to Leif, this model will strip everything below
the cut line in the same way your regular expression MACRO as a
template works. Except it will be the sender who has extended this
courtesy to those who are replying on TBUDL. I practiced it with him, back in
October, and he said what I was doing worked.

Incidentally, wouldn't this work for Gavin:

1) Put the message into the full reading pane with a double-click on its highlighted
line in the message list pane.

2) Click Reply or click the reply Green Arrow, usingthe quick template of your regular
expression MACRO.

3) Read the message in this window, and then click the red X to close it.

4) At that point The Bat! will ask, Save the Message (meaning the reply),
and the correct answer is No, since nothing has been written--the Reply
(text editor) window has simply been used for reading, without the signature,
delightful (to me) cookies, and PGP signatures.

Or is that a bad idea?


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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Mary Bull wrote...

M -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
M Hash: SHA1

[1] See comment a little further down :)

M On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 8:27:37 PM PST, Gavin Sinclair
M wrote:

 A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
 PGP signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.

  ... 

M There is a regex macro that you can use in your TB! reply templates to
M strip PGP signature material - and other stuff - from quoted text in
M replies:

M [all one line in a template]:

M %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP
M
%-SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-%
M - -BEGIN PGP
M
SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|_{64,}\n.*MSN|\z)%-%REGEXPBLINDMAT
M CH=%text%SUBPATT=4'

  ... 

 One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls from
 heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick Templates, then I
 used the backspace button to turn it into one long line.

I'm not entirely sure this was copied correctly.  As you notice at [1]
it still has the PGP header line.  The above code should have stripped
it.  I think the problem has to do with where you have one of your %-.
The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:

%quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(%-
- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|%-
\n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
- -+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
\n+Get your FREE download|%-
\z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4'

I have a feeling a little bit of a nasty word wrap might have caught
somebody somewhere. Notice how on the first line it has the %- on the
end, but the quoted one above has the %- on the second line at the
front. I'm not sure how much of an affect it'd have, but it'd be
willing to guess it breaks the match up on the PGP Header line.

 Slightly off this subject: many people are not providing a double
 hyphen cut line which actually works in writing to this list. My
 memory of the way Leif explained it to me is that there should be
 two line spaces (two clicks of Enter) both above and below the cut
 line (two hyphens plus a click of the space bar).

Not as far as I know. I've always seen it as just --  and a return
after. No need for a double return above/below the 'cut'. In fact, I
use mine as below, -- new linename and I've not had a problem
with it so far.

- --
Jonathan Angliss
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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024bIicY47n0qGshe1GewWqS
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Jonathan,

On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 03:38:18 -0600GMT (1-1-03, 10:38 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JA Notice how on the first line it has the %- on the end, but the
JA quoted one above has the %- on the second line at the front. I'm
JA not sure how much of an affect it'd have, but it'd be willing to
JA guess it breaks the match up on the PGP Header line.

It does indeed. Recently it was discussed on this list. The %- at the
end of a line tells TB to forget the Enter immediately following the %-.
A %- at the beginning or in the middle of a line does nothing.
Therefore Melissa's macro was looking for this:
-BEGIN PGP
SIGNED
While it ought to look for
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED

However Melissa also stated that it ought to be put in one long line,
that makes all %- macros rather useless, but it has the effect that
the macro works, because there are no faulty line breaks.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jonathan!

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 3:38:18 AM you wrote:

J [1] See comment a little further down :)

I think you are right, and I did get caught in trying to quote
Melissa's MACRO. I am very inexperienced. Would have been better just
to refer to it and let those interested pick it up off the thread. :)
Thank you for putting this correction in. I wouldn't want anyone to be
disappointed, who tried to use my version.

  ... 

M There is a regex macro that you can use in your TB! reply templates to
M strip PGP signature material - and other stuff - from quoted text in
M replies:

M [all one line in a template]:

M %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP
M
J %-SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|-%
M - -BEGIN PGP
M
J SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|_{64,}\n.*MSN|\z)%-%REGEXPBLINDMAT
M CH=%text%SUBPATT=4'

  ... 

 One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls from
 heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick Templates, then I
 used the backspace button to turn it into one long line.

J I'm not entirely sure this was copied correctly.  As you notice at [1]
J it still has the PGP header line.  The above code should have stripped
J it.  I think the problem has to do with where you have one of your %-.
J The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:

J %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
J SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(%-
J - -*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|%-
J \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
J - -+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%-
J \n+Get your FREE download|%-
J \z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4'

J I have a feeling a little bit of a nasty word wrap might have caught
J somebody somewhere. Notice how on the first line it has the %- on the
J end, but the quoted one above has the %- on the second line at the
J front. I'm not sure how much of an affect it'd have, but it'd be
J willing to guess it breaks the match up on the PGP Header line.

Again, thanks.

 Slightly off this subject: many people are not providing a double
 hyphen cut line which actually works in writing to this list. My
 memory of the way Leif explained it to me is that there should be
 two line spaces (two clicks of Enter) both above and below the cut
 line (two hyphens plus a click of the space bar).

J Not as far as I know. I've always seen it as just --  and a return
J after. No need for a double return above/below the 'cut'. In fact, I
J use mine as below, -- new linename and I've not had a problem
J with it so far.

I am going to copy and paste here, what I am seeing below your 'cut'
line in this Reply text editor window. Do you mean that TB! will strip
it before it gets published in my quote to the list, if I don't
manually strip it or use Melissa's MACRO?

I am going to send this Reply without doing anything to what is below
your 'cut' line. Please do not take this as criticism. I am trying to
learn. I have only been using The Bat! since October 15, 2002.

Begin Copy-and-Paste:

J - --
J Jonathan Angliss
J ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

J -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
J Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393  B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73

J iQA/AwUBPhK3ECuD6BT4/R9zEQLeKwCaAi2iej+1dqBi1JzA7vnOA1n0m+QAoIn9
J 024bIicY47n0qGshe1GewWqS
J =kUrU
J -END PGP SIGNATURE-


J 
J Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
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End Copy-and-Paste.

J - --
J Jonathan Angliss
J ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

J -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
J Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393  B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73

J iQA/AwUBPhK3ECuD6BT4/R9zEQLeKwCaAi2iej+1dqBi1JzA7vnOA1n0m+QAoIn9
J 024bIicY47n0qGshe1GewWqS
J =kUrU
J -END PGP SIGNATURE-


J 
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 5:03:07 PM, Melissa wrote:

 I'll sign this one just for you. ;-)

 Melissa

Heh, no manual deforestation required.  Thanks again!

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Allie Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote:'

 True :) I understand their meaning and still think it's a forest
 of crap. Even if I thought signing messages in a public forum
 were a brilliant idea, I'd still think it's noise, because it's
 metadata, not actual message. It belongs in the same category as
 all the header information that we care about, but don't really
 need to see.

I agree with this completely.

JA This is where PGP/MIME signatures would come in handy :) You
JA wouldn't see that 'crap' as it'd be an attached signature.

PMMail 2000 doesn't use PGP/MIME and yet it very nicely deals with
the PGP metadata. It does exclude the PGP stuff from the viewer as
it does with the message headers.

In the status bar of the message viewer, you'll see that the message
the message has been PGP signed and whether or not the signature is
good/bad; valid/invalid. You therefore don't have to see the PGP
stuff within the message text and you don't have to manually check
the signature either.

We wonder why other clients never incorporate some of the no brainer
features of TB!. I wonder the same about this feature of PMMail.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Allie Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'

MB One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls
MB from heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick
MB Templates, then I used the backspace button to turn it into one
MB long line.

MB And it works! In order to comply with a request that Leif
MB Gregory made of me when I first joined this list in October,
MB 2002, I have been manually stripping everything below the cut
MB line (delimiter)for months now, before replying to it on the
MB list. What a joy to use your expression on this reply to you and
MB have everything gone in one click. :)

Why do you use it as a quick template? Is this by choice?

I ask because you can use the macro in your reply templates. It will
work just fine on messages that aren't PGP signed. Just replace the
%quotes macro with this macro and you'll not have to manually do
anything from then. :)

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Jonathan,

@1-Jan-2003, 03:38 -0600 (09:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JA The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:

 ... snip

That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
with '-'. It would be better to give the URL for it:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#quote+extraction

moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jonathan.

Actually it is a note about the thread that seems to have become a
haven of excessive quoting. Please remember to trim your reply to
simply provide a context for your comments.
/moderator

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
TB! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2
'
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003 at 6:03:49 AM you wrote:

MB One good thing about lurking: occasionally a little manna falls
MB from heaven. I copied and pasted your template into Quick
MB Templates, then I used the backspace button to turn it into one
MB long line.

 ... 

A Why do you use it as a quick template? Is this by choice?

Yes, because I forgot how to do the other templates. It has been a
long time since I've had the use of this desktop machine (it crashed
and had to be re-done, and so I forgot most of what was taught me in
November.

However, I thought, since Gavin (originator of the thread) did not
know what templates were, that would be an easy route for him, also.
It's the first use of templates that I learned.

A I ask because you can use the macro in your reply templates. It will
A work just fine on messages that aren't PGP signed. Just replace the
A %quotes macro with this macro and you'll not have to manually do
A anything from then. :)

So I can just copy and paste there (isn't it in Accounts,
Properties?) in the same way I did into Quick Templates? Thanks,
Allie. I will try it now.


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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Allie Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'

MB So I can just copy and paste there (isn't it in Accounts,
MB Properties?) in the same way I did into Quick Templates? Thanks,
MB Allie. I will try it now.

You can do the following:

Create an address book entry for TBUDL and using the list address,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Right click the entry and select properties. Hit the 'Reply' tab,
enable the option 'Use a specific template for replies'.

Place in there, your reply template for the list (I reproduced it
from what I saw in your reply message so you could just copy and
paste the template below. There is deliberate wrapping there so you
don't have to adjust the macros to be a single long line.):

---start template 

Hello %OFRomFName,

On %ODate, %OTime, you wrote:

%quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3

-- 
Mary

The Bat! %THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME%-
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Allie,

On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, 7:15 AM, you wrote:

 ... 

A You can do the following:

A Create an address book entry for TBUDL and using the list address,
A [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

This entry I had already.

A Right click the entry and select properties. Hit the 'Reply' tab,
A enable the option 'Use a specific template for replies'.

A Place in there, your reply template for the list (I reproduced it
A from what I saw in your reply message so you could just copy and
A paste the template below. There is deliberate wrapping there so you
A don't have to adjust the macros to be a single long line.) ...

Thank you so much. I have done this now. Trying it out in this reply.
I made one manual adjustment.

In my experience reading these lists, there must be two Enter clicks below
the 'cut' line.

I just made an experiment of replying to one Lister, who said his form worked.
(I had been manually deleting everything below the 'cut' line, when
everything traveled into my Reply text editor window. That one time, I didn't
manually delete what was below his line. And it all showed up on the
Post when I received it.

I do believe there must be two lines left empty below the (-- ). So I
put them there in this message, although the template doesn't have
them.

That's simple to do manually. :)

Again, thanks for your help.


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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Allie Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mary Bull [MB] wrote:'

MB In my experience reading these lists, there must be two Enter
MB clicks below the 'cut' line.

For the signature delimiter to work? No, the extra empty lines
aren't necessary. If you prefer having them there then your choice
of course. :)

MB That's simple to do manually. :)

You could put in your template so you don't have to be doing it
manually all the time.

MB Again, thanks for your help.

You're welcome.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Mary Bull wrote...

J [1] See comment a little further down :)

 I think you are right, and I did get caught in trying to quote
 Melissa's MACRO. I am very inexperienced. Would have been better
 just to refer to it and let those interested pick it up off the
 thread. :) Thank you for putting this correction in. I wouldn't want
 anyone to be disappointed, who tried to use my version.

  Don't take it as offence, or anything like that. Chances are, you
  were probably caught by a bad line wrap somewhere. Everybody gets
  caught by it at one time or another (check all those that paste
  their filters which contain a long event such as creating a batch
  file).

[cut]

J Not as far as I know. I've always seen it as just --  and a
J return after. No need for a double return above/below the 'cut'.
J In fact, I use mine as below, -- new linename and I've not
J had a problem with it so far.

 I am going to copy and paste here, what I am seeing below your 'cut'
 line in this Reply text editor window. Do you mean that TB! will strip
 it before it gets published in my quote to the list, if I don't
 manually strip it or use Melissa's MACRO?

  Not in my case. I've PGP Signed my messages, which mean that the cut
  mark gets modified (although still half there). In this case, I put
  -- , but PGP modifies it to put - -- which as you can see is
  different, so TB wont' cut it. Hence the need for a macro.

 I am going to send this Reply without doing anything to what is below
 your 'cut' line. Please do not take this as criticism. I am trying to
 learn. I have only been using The Bat! since October 15, 2002.

 Begin Copy-and-Paste:

  Something else to note is that copying and pasting text might not
  get processed by macos, or TB internal macros (such as stripping
  signatures), unless you explicitly use the %CLIPBOARD macro.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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Hash: SHA1

On Wednesday, January 01, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

JA The correct version taken right from the website looks like this:

  ... snip

 That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
 with '-'.

  Then maybe the template on the main site needs to be updated no?

  http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#qtsamples Quick
  template #7. The odd thing is that is the one I use, and it strips
  just fine. Maybe it just accidentally works?

 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#quote+extraction

  This one seems a little more extensive, containing catches for other
  things as well. Some of which would probably vanish if people used
  proper cut marks anyway (ie, adverts at the bottom of the emails).

- --
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Jonathan,

@1-Jan-2003, 11:25 -0600 (17:25 UK time) Jonathan Angliss [JA] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
 with '-'.

JA   Then maybe the template on the main site needs to be updated
JA   no?

Nono - you misunderstand me :-). When you quoted it, there were some
lines of the macro that begin with '-'. You then PGP signed the
posting. PGP prefaced *all* of those lines with an extra '- ' before
signing. That messes with how the macro works when someone copies
and pastes it from your posted version. It's a pain like that.

- --
Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread M. Evans
Allie Martin,

 We wonder why other clients never incorporate some of the no brainer
 features of TB!. I wonder the same about this feature of PMMail.

Exactly right.  Good P G P support is one reason I bought Bat.
Among other things, I use digital signatures to verify consulting
contracts with clients worldwide.

My only wish for Bat would be better integration with Gnu P G.
Such as

a) customizable locations for the Gnu EXE that don't
   depend upon PATH environment var
b) key manager
c) integrated Gnu P G distribution/setup with Bat (not an
   internal implementation of Gnu P G though) --
   for setup convenience of inexperienced dummy users who
   are totally confused by the Gnu P G web sites and public
   key systems generally -- so that they never have to even
   look at a Gnu P G website to use it

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Jonathan Angliss
 That won't work either - PGP has '- ' quoted the lines that start
 with '-'.

 JA   Then maybe the template on the main site needs to be updated
 JA   no?

 Nono - you misunderstand me :-). When you quoted it, there were some
 lines of the macro that begin with '-'. You then PGP signed the
 posting. PGP prefaced *all* of those lines with an extra '- ' before
 signing. That messes with how the macro works when someone copies
 and pastes it from your posted version. It's a pain like that.

Ahh... my bad... I should have realised that, commenting just earlier that
PGP replaces lines starting with a - with - -.  I should have just
pasted a link, but the one you referenced was a bit better as it included
some extra checking, and strips out more stuff :)

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 3:27:37 PM, Gavin wrote:

 Hi all,

 [PGP signatures argably shouldn't be displayed in emails,] but the
 help and the FAQ mention nothing.

Now that one or two reply templates have been published, could all
this info be shoehorned into the FAQ somewhere?

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2003-01-01 Thread Allie Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Gavin Sinclair [GS] wrote:'

GS Now that one or two reply templates have been published, could
GS all this info be shoehorned into the FAQ somewhere?

It's already there in the macro and solutions library:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

This library includes a lot of macros which you can use in your
templates.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2002-12-31 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Gavin,

On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:27:37 +1100 GMT (01/01/03, 11:27 +0700 GMT),
Gavin Sinclair wrote:

 A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use PGP
 signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.  The Bat!
 being the powerful program it is, there must be a way to view the
 message without the noise, but the help and the FAQ mention nothing.

 Do you guys have any approach?

The best approach is to lobby the developers (once again) via the
wishlist.

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Re: PGP signature removal?

2002-12-31 Thread Gavin Sinclair
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 5:03:07 PM, Melissa wrote:

 A lot of messages on this list, and some on others I frequent, use
 PGP signatures that hide the actual message in a forest of crap.

 :-) One person's forest of crap might be another's wondrous
 choreography of sparkling ciphertext! Well, at least it could mean
 something to those who understand its reason for being.

True :)  I understand their meaning and still think it's a forest of
crap.  Even if I thought signing messages in a public forum were a
brilliant idea, I'd still think it's noise, because it's metadata, not
actual message.  It belongs in the same category as all the header
information that we care about, but don't really need to see.

Thanks for the tips.  I don't understand that template you gave me
very well, but I'm sure I won't remain ignorant for long.  (That's not
a cry for help, I'm off to the documenation now.)

BTW I'm pretty sure some other mailers (Mozilla? KMail?) hide the
PGP/GnuPG/OpenPGP metadata from view (which is all I want, not to see
it removed), and it seems like a pretty good idea for TB!

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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Thomas

Hi Nick,

On Tue, 15 May 2001 22:19:49 -0700GMT (16/05/2001, 13:19 +0800GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

NA At first glance it would appear not. The signature delimiter is hyphen
NA hyphen space, and even though a PGP signature will dash escape that text,
NA The Bat! will still recognize the delimiter.

No. You have to use a RegEx to cut off the sig, if it is different
from the basic dash-dash-space-enter. TB does *not* recognise
dash-space-dash-dash-space-enter as a sig delimiter.

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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On May 16, 2001, at 12:34:06 AM, Thomas wrote:

 No. You have to use a RegEx to cut off the sig, if it is different from
 the basic dash-dash-space-enter. TB does *not* recognise
 dash-space-dash-dash-space-enter as a sig delimiter.

It sure does on my machine, and I have no Regex's in my reply Template. If
I take any message of mine and hit the reply button, all information below
my delimiter is omitted. shrug


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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Nick,

On Wednesday, May 16, 2001 at 9:53:17 AM you wrote:

NA It sure does on my machine, and I have no Regex's in my reply Template. If
NA I take any message of mine and hit the reply button, all information below
NA my delimiter is omitted. shrug

I don't know why, but you seem to make something right. I've also
already noticed the PGP-delimiter is used meanwhile, but, it's
harm, not all the time. YOUR mails I can reply to and the ugly
PGP-parts are cutted of. Many other mails that came over the list too
(I haven't tested all yet), but I got a PM from Marck D. Pearlstone,
where the trick didn't work :-( The only difference (ignoring the
difference in the text *g*) I could see was the additional sig the
list attaches. I've copy Marcs mail to a temp folder, took of the
regexp in my reply-template, edited the mail and added originally the
sig from the list (-- \n ... Archives   : blablabla-stuff) ... it
didn't work out for me ... SO WHAT's the difference? I do the hell not
know why it's one/many time working and another time not :-(

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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello Peter!

On Wednesday, May 16, 2001 at 11:19:36 AM you wrote:

 I don't know why, but you seem to make something right. I've also
 already noticed the PGP-delimiter is used meanwhile, but, it's
 harm, not all the time. YOUR mails I can reply to and the ugly
 PGP-parts are cutted of. Many other mails that came over the list too
 (I haven't tested all yet), but I got a PM from Marck D. Pearlstone,
 where the trick didn't work :-(

Confirmed, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.



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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On May 16, 2001, at 8:38:25 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Confirmed, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

On your messages it doesn't... but on mine, it does. shrug

Win98SE with PGP 7.1, GnuPG 1.0.5 through GnuPGShell 1.76 and WinPT 0.2.0


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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hi Nick,

On 16 May 2001 at  08:35:16 -0700 (which was 16:35 where I  live) Nick
Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

NA Yes, I've noted that when you hit the reply button on Marck's
NA messages, the delimiter is ignored for some reason. It's not just
NA Marck's messages though, as Dierk's messages and many others act
NA the same way... where the delimiter is ignored when dash-escaped
NA by PGP.

NA I cannot see a pattern yet, but it may have something to do with
NA the PGP version one has... although I don't see how that should
NA matter.

I can. My dash-escaped sig has the trailing space removed when it is
escaped. Yours does not. I'm going to sign this with PGP-Tray to see
if it's that. I've used both GPG and PGP6.5.8 with plug-ins. The only
other variable is that Nick's using 7.1 of PGP.

Just did a dummy run. The answer is the plug-in. I will do the same
again - signed from the tool tray and you'll see it's fine.

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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-16 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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On May 16, 2001, at 9:01:33 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

 Just did a dummy run. The answer is the plug-in. I will do the same
 again - signed from the tool tray and you'll see it's fine.

Yes, it is in the Plugin. My last message was signed via the Plugin, and
my delimiter isn't working. OTOH, if I use GnuPGShell, or WinPT or
PGPTray, then the delimiter is recognised. So the Plugin must be stripping
that trailing space as you mention.


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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-15 Thread Thomas

Hello Paddy,

On Tue, 15 May 2001 09:56:48 -0700 GMT (16/05/01, 00:56 +0800 GMT),
Paddy L wrote:

PL Have I properly formatted the PGP signature

Probably (if I could only check it).

PL and the cut off (-- )?

That one is being mutilated by PGP signing. There is a RegEx to
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Re: PGP, Signature Format, OK?

2001-05-15 Thread Nick Andriash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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On May 15, 2001, at 9:56:48 AM, Paddy L wrote:

 Have I properly formatted the PGP signature and the cut off (-- )?

At first glance it would appear not. The signature delimiter is hyphen
hyphen space, and even though a PGP signature will dash escape that text,
The Bat! will still recognize the delimiter.

In your case however, it does not seem to which makes me think that you
perhaps did not include the space after the two hyphens. That delimiter
has to be on a line of it's own, but I am not sure with TB! if you have to
hit the enter key after the space. I will PGP sign this, and when
received, simply hit the Reply button and everything *below* the delimiter
should be gone, including the PGP stuff. ;o)


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Re: PGP signature verification: always get invalid signature format

2000-10-26 Thread A . Curtis Martin

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  On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:20:24  -0500, Tony A. T. Mendina wrote:

[snip]
TATM Moral of the story: check all your settings carefully when you
TATM discover a "bug!"

A very important moral there.

Another is to also carefully check if other applications or system
settings are interfering when others cannot duplicate your 'bug'. ;-)

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Re: PGP signature verification: always get invalid signature format

2000-10-25 Thread Tony A. T. Mendina

Tony A. T. Mendina [EMAIL PROTECTED] said at 11:57 PM on 10/24/2000:

 This kind of think came up this time last year, and though the
 discussion on how to transliterate Russian names was interesting, I
 couldn't find a solution in the archives. So here I am.

And now I want to post my solution for the benefit of anyone else who
runs across it:

I erased my hard drive a month or so ago; it's something I do
periodically to make Windows loose some weight (usually 50% if it's a
six-months old installation. I try out a lot of software).

After I did this, of course, I re-installed my apps (Including
TheBat!) and filled in the mail base from another copy.

When I set up the bat I did point it, as always, to my proper keyrings
and randseed file.

Alas, I forgot to check the box that indicates that I'm using version
6. SO, it was trying to use the version 6 keyrings according to the
"internal" method. Neither the public nor the private keyring
contained anything it could recognize---and all signatures came up as
invalid.

Moral of the story: check all your settings carefully when you
discover a "bug!"

Tony

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