Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Deborah, PK>> Try "Time and Chaos" http://www.isbister.com/ I use it for a number PK>> of years. > > I've been using T&C for only a few months, but I'll second the vote. > It's terrific. Does it somewhat "interface" or "talk" to TB to send mail, etc.? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...? (PIM's; OT)
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:42:13 PM, Joseph N. wrote: > Anyone who is not interested in Outlook should look into > IBM/Lotus Organizer. It's quite powerful despite its ease of use; it > syncs flawlessly with Palms (can't vouch personally for other types of > handhelds); and it imports/exports info from other programs smoothly. Although Organizer is very good, I cannot seem to keep my appointment category data in the move from Datebook to Org, so cannot use it. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello John JP> One major problem (IMO - your needs may vary) is the inability to have JP> recurring tasks. You can set events to repeat at regular intervals but, I agree, there's no way to automate irregular future commitments. -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hi Clive, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, at 08:21:52 [GMT +] (which was 19:21 where I live) you wrote: > What's wrong with Palm's own desktop? Needs vary, but I switched from > Outllok to this and find it more effective and easier to use -- > particularly the creation of lists and labels. One major problem (IMO - your needs may vary) is the inability to have recurring tasks. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Honk if you love peace and quiet. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Dave, > Wow! 2 years of TBing for me, and I had no idea this existed! I don't know if it was here or in TBBETA that someone said recently that it takes about 10 years to become aware of all TB capabilities. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Julian JBL> I still use Outlook for my contacts JBL> and diary (I have not got round to finding a suitable replacement that JBL> will work with my Palm) What's wrong with Palm's own desktop? Needs vary, but I switched from Outllok to this and find it more effective and easier to use -- particularly the creation of lists and labels. -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hi Andy, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, at 15:11:56 [GMT -] (which was 02:11 where I live) you wrote: > OK, assuming you've not filtered out my email completely because I'm > using Outlook 2000 :-), I have a question (or two). I've just found The > Bat!, test-installed it (latest as of yesterday, 1.62 is it?), and it > looks good, but it seems to me that a move from one email client to > another will be a massive investment of my time. I moved a couple of weeks ago the mail on my pc on the office LAN from Outlook 2000 to Bat!. Have been running it at home for several years (not sure, may be a couple of years) before this. All I can say - should have done the change at the office years ago. What stopped me previously was the inability of Bat! to connect with Microsoft Post Office. Solution - scrubbed my self off the MS Post Office, now all office mail is addressed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and MDaemon on the mail server sees that this is internal mail and automatically routes it to me. (I think Mark Pearlstone had a hand in writing this piece of brilliance). Just for the far superior filtering was enough for me. However, trying to import the Outlook address book - forget it. I found it easier to update the Bat! address book from an Outlook print out. (Best e-mail move I have ever made - YMMV) -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Do ministers do more than lay people? Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Andy, Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 3:11:56 PM, you wrote: AH> Hello all. AH> OK, assuming you've not filtered out my email completely because I'm AH> using Outlook 2000 :-), I have a question (or two). I've just found The AH> Bat!, test-installed it (latest as of yesterday, 1.62 is it?), and it AH> looks good, but it seems to me that a move from one email client to AH> another will be a massive investment of my time. AH> 1. Is it worth it? (OK, I know you're all going to say yes!) AH> 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things that AH> OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? I can't tell you how to do all the things you're asking, because I haven't used TB for long enough (How long is long enough? How long is a piece of string ). What I can tell you is that I changed from OL/OE two months ago and I've never regretted it. TB is far better as a dedicated mail client instead of the "how many functions can we cram into it" Outlook, and is more effective than OE. I still use Outlook as my PIM, but I have no regrets that I no longer use it for mail. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 9:57:45 AM, Miguel wrote: >> - I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them > But the Message Finder "saves" the last 9 searches you have > done with all conditions (not just the search strings). You can > re-use any of them by opening the Message Finder and going to > Edit->Use previous conditions. Wow! 2 years of TBing for me, and I had no idea this existed! Thanks Miguel!! -- Dave Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Marck, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 at 00:26:21[GMT +](which was 00:26 where I live) you wrote: > Just change any folder that is configured to be one of those using > the settings. All other folder similarly set will be affected by the > changes. But only when you close the folder in which you made the changes first as I found out this afternoon. Otherwise you will have to make the changes in each folder separately as you open it. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/3 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Happiness is the reward we get for living to the highest right we know. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Greg, @14-Jan-2003, 18:04 -0600 (00:04 UK time) Greg Strong [GS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> I have "Use the account default column settings" enabled for all >> my folders (well, most of them) and have no problem seeing them >> in that consistent format. GS> Can you change the default column settings? If yes, how? Just change any folder that is configured to be one of those using the settings. All other folder similarly set will be affected by the changes. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/3 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+JKqvOeQkq5KdzaARAqiPAJ9MYJH0lYJJLBq8lEGbFzLhM5qmfgCg94ei QB5tq4Ri/Be5Q2qrJesz02M= =YfSp -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Greg, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 18:04:57[GMT -0600](which was 00:04 where I live) you wrote: > Can you change the default column settings? If yes, how? Yes I can. I right clicked on the toolbar and selected the columns I wanted. I think I've found out what I was doing wrong. I didn't shut the folder that I made the adjustments in so they didn't take in the other folders I subsequently opened. Now corrected and all working fine thanks. Can't see the wood for the trees again ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/3 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. Power corrupts, but we need electricity Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Marck, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 23:13:17[GMT +](which was 23:13 where I live) you wrote: > The pop-up folder view is different from the Main window folder view > and stores and separate configuration. Just set the columns once and > they will be remembered for the pop-up folder too. Well that's very weird because, earlier on, I changed the columns in one of the folders but it didn't take in the others. I have a horrible feeling that I left that particular folder open and it didn't save the settings and apply them to the other ones as I opened them. I have now done it again and it works just fine thanks. As has been said several times already today, this programme has surprises round every corner and almost all of them are nice ones too ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/3 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. "The harder you work the luckier you become." Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Marck, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, at 16:44:55 GMT + (1/14/2003, 10:44 AM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have "Use the account default column settings" enabled for all my > folders (well, most of them) and have no problem seeing them in that > consistent format. Can you change the default column settings? If yes, how? -- Best regards, Greg Strong TB! v1.62 Beta/17 on Windows XP Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Gerard, > Beaten by TB! again, you got to love this baby :) I do :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, @14-Jan-2003, 19:28 Richard Wakeford [RW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RW> However I still get spurious columns that I don't want and that RW> I do not have in the main folders :-( The pop-up folder view is different from the Main window folder view and stores and separate configuration. Just set the columns once and they will be remembered for the pop-up folder too. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/3 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+JJmPOeQkq5KdzaARAraLAJ465mr9OygDHFc5QKc6zsbtSVZ07ACgzaOi rKLTxiaPNFFMMQIzlpHH8BA= =q2kO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 3:11:56 PM,Andy wrote: AH> I've also not been massively impressed with stability / quality. The AH> uninstaller doesn't work, for a start, and I've had a few 'crashes' AH> (didn't bother recording the details...) Thoughts on this? Andy, I had to pick up on this as I've not had the problem you describe despite using three different versions of TB! to date, including 1.62. Crashes are very rare in TB! unlike Outlook Express which had a tendency to fall over if you held you head at the wrong angle! I've used the uninstaller as well and it does work fine - all it leaves behind are the files which are created by you during the use of the progran - e.g. your mail databases and address book, which is what any decent software should do anyhow. Hope this helps :-) -- Cheers, Anne Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 98 4.10 Build Visit The Bat! Users' Unofficial Help Forum http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
ON Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 4:57:45 PM, you wrote: MAU> Hello Andy, >> - I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them MAU> No, you cant save them in the way you say. But the Message Finder MAU> "saves" the last 9 searches you have done with all conditions (not MAU> just the search strings). You can re-use any of them by opening the MAU> Message Finder and going to Edit->Use previous conditions. Hi Miguel, Thanks for that. I was just repeatedly doing the same search and thought what I great function this would be. Beaten by TB! again, you got to love this baby :) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Good players have the power to think while they are competing. Most golfers are not thinking even when they believe they are. They are only worrying. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Marck, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 16:44:55[GMT +](which was 16:44 where I live) you wrote: > I have "Use the account default column settings" enabled for all my > folders (well, most of them) and have no problem seeing them in that > consistent format. Hm, not here, well not everything. Some of my newer folders did not have the "default column" setting selected (they do now) and I do at least now get consistent window sizes an well as threading and messages sorted by received date for "View folders". However I still get spurious columns that I don't want and that I do not have in the main folders :-( -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/3 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. The fool who is silent can pass for wise Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Andy, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:11:56 - GMT (14/01/03, 22:11 +0700 GMT), Andy Holt wrote: > 1. Is it worth it? (OK, I know you're all going to say yes!) Of course we are. ;-) In addition to what has been said already, let me add the following: The aspect that made me migrate to The Bat was the seperate handling of multiple accounts. I know that Outlook can pop several accounts, but all messages are put into the same inbox. This creates problems; I have friends you have a private and a business email, and they want me to use only their private mailbox, but when they reply to my messages, the replies always come from their office email address. Luckily, this can easily be overcome with TB's templates. I myself never used Outlook but used to different email clients (Netscape and Eudora), one for private and the other for business. Equally inefficent. TB solved the problem, and I have now 7 competely seperate email accounts (at six different providers) within the same email client. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If God dropped acid, would he see people? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, @14-Jan-2003, 16:32 Richard Wakeford [RW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RW> ... where can you apply global settings instead of having to RW> reset each folder that is opened? I have "Use the account default column settings" enabled for all my folders (well, most of them) and have no problem seeing them in that consistent format. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/3 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+JD6KOeQkq5KdzaARAphvAKD7TbvDG22nwISGv29V5qNKdpLiOQCgjzft R8VqblSHVKyYVEQIXptrBBU= =z+DN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
On 14 January 2003, 15:11, Andy Holt wrote: > 1. Is it worth it? (OK, I know you're all going to say yes!) --- This very much depends on your priorities. If you need all the bells and whistles that Outlook provides (such as HTML, Outlook Forms, or WordMail), then "No". If you need the security of an MUA that resolutely refuses to execute malignant code or fetch offsite resources, then Outlook is a non-starter. This is where I came in. > 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things that > OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? --- - Built in calendar functions - Notes (OK, you can fake notes, but it's not the same!) But ... there are things in TB that Outlook can't match. For example, TB's filtering is much more powerful than Outlook's rules; you can attach templates to address book groups and contacts, to message folders and to accounts. > Some small examples seem to be that: > - I cannot open different folders at once in different windows --- Yes you can. Try this: 1. Double click a message. The folder opens with current message selected. 2. If required, from the View menu of the folder window, choose Message List. 3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 for all other folders you want to view. > - I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them --- Maybe not, but Edit->Use previous conditions in the Message Finder lets you re-use the last nine searches. > - I cannot import OL filter rules (OK that's a one shot problem, but I > do have loads) --- As you say, this is a one-off. You also have a bit of a learning curve because the TB Sorting Office makes Outlook look pretty sick > - I cannot export folders back to OL .PST files - this makes a migration > more risky ~~~ You can't. However, many of us use a relatively cheap shareware product called Mailbag Assistant (http://www.fookes.com/) to manage archives. This gives much of the benefits of multiple Outlook PST files. AFAIK, the only standard mail format that Outlook understands is individual emails. This does make reverting to Outlook onerous. It's easy to do (export from TB or MBA as individual emails), but time-consuming. FWIW, I've had a few crashes from TB. However, they only affect TB. Contrast this with Outlook, which used to crash far more regularly and take the OS with it, leaving an ungraceful shutdown the only option. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Jonathan, On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 at 09:32:25[GMT -0600](which was 15:32 where I live) you wrote: > Yes you can... it's just unusual how you do it. If you double click on > an email in a folder, it appears you have just opened an email... Well > that is almost correct. Now click on View - Message List. You now have > the folder listed in that 'email' window. You can open as many as you > want then. I've never used this facility up until now when I thought I'd have a go. It certainly is useful but where can you apply global settings instead of having to reset each folder that is opened? For each folder I open I have to reset the columns, window size and sort by Threading and received time which is my preference. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/3 | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 | and using the best browser: Opera. "In every walk with nature, one receives far more than he seeks." Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 3:11:56 PM, Andy Holt wrote: > 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things that > OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? I moved from Outlook 2002, and I cannot now think of anything that I miss particularly, apart, maybe, from the ability of Outlook to track shared documents, etc. That is a theoretical issue, because in reality I never used it anyway. I still use Outlook for my contacts and diary (I have not got round to finding a suitable replacement that will work with my Palm), and there is no easy way of synchronising address book entries, but this is not a major problem. Some of the things that I can do with TB! out of the box, I had to spend a lot of money on with Outlook. For example, I used Email Templates in Outlook (a costly add-on that cost more than TB!) which had 1/2 the functionality and 1/4 of the ease of use of TB! templates and filters. > - I cannot export folders back to OL .PST files - this makes a migration > more risky As others have suggested, don't allow TB to delete mail from the server. You can then download it into Outlook as well, just in case you want to go back. I did this for a couple of weeks, although I purchased the full version of TB a day after I downloaded it, because I knew there was no going back! > I've also not been massively impressed with stability / quality. The > uninstaller doesn't work, for a start, and I've had a few 'crashes' > (didn't bother recording the details...) Thoughts on this? No problems here with crashes, and I haven't had to use the uninstaller yet! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003 @ 7:11:56 AM [-0700], Andy Holt wrote: > 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things that > OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? Johnathan and Marck have answered your other questions but I wanted to touch on this one. I used Outlook for several years. Due to Outlook's susceptibility to virii, limited filter configuration, and poor poor ability to view mail headers, I was always looking for a new mail client. About a year ago I found The Bat! and have never looked back. I can't think of one thing Outlook did that I cannot do in TB!. However, I CAN think of many things TB! can do that Outlook could not. :] (Good ol' F9) -- Matt Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
Hello Andy, > - I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them No, you cant save them in the way you say. But the Message Finder "saves" the last 9 searches you have done with all conditions (not just the search strings). You can re-use any of them by opening the Message Finder and going to Edit->Use previous conditions. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, Andy Holt wrote... > OK, assuming you've not filtered out my email completely because I'm > using Outlook 2000 :-), I have a question (or two). I've just found The > Bat!, test-installed it (latest as of yesterday, 1.62 is it?), and it > looks good, but it seems to me that a move from one email client to > another will be a massive investment of my time. > 1. Is it worth it? (OK, I know you're all going to say yes!) I'd say 100% without a doubt. It may take you a little getting used to at first, such as the editor, and filtering options... but once everything is in your head, you'll wonder why Outlook never had half the options. > 2. (for ex-Outlook 2000 users) Being honest, are there any things >that OL 2000 does that you cannot do in TB!, that you miss? I couldn't comment. There are a lot of things I can say the other way around that OL is missing that TB has. > Some small examples seem to be that: > - I cannot open different folders at once in different windows Yes you can... it's just unusual how you do it. If you double click on an email in a folder, it appears you have just opened an email... Well that is almost correct. Now click on View - Message List. You now have the folder listed in that 'email' window. You can open as many as you want then. > - I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them Save searches? > - I cannot import OL filter rules (OK that's a one shot problem, but I > do have loads) This I've noticed... but TB's filtering is a lot more powerful, and you could probably cut some of the filters out. > - I cannot export folders back to OL .PST files - this makes a migration > more risky If you're not sure, you could set Outlook to leave mail on server, and set TB to do the same. Then just play with both until you have made that final decision. That way you don't lose any mail, and if you're not sure, you can still jump back... if you wanted ;) > I'd be glad of any workarounds to these, plus feedback on the questions > above. > I've also not been massively impressed with stability / quality. The > uninstaller doesn't work, for a start, and I've had a few 'crashes' > (didn't bother recording the details...) Thoughts on this? Most curious. It depends on what you're doing I guess. Since I started using TB! a while ago, I think I've had 3 crashes. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPiQtjSuD6BT4/R9zEQKM7ACdEFB7Mj0c/tSk9sNcjZ42uvAy6OwAoP+Z C4jrIrLVDCAhKc5XFwt8ohzz =Fith -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Should I stay or should I go...?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Andy, @14-Jan-2003, 15:11 Andy Holt said: > Some small examples seem to be that: - I cannot open different > folders at once in different windows - Double click on any message in the message list. You can open dozens or even (given memory and resources) hundreds of separate "Folder view" windows. Enable the "message list" (in the "view" menu) for the first folder view window and you should be all set. > I cannot save searches and thus make explorer short cuts to them - No. TB does not become part of the Explorer as MS product does. You can copy search results into a new folder within the system if you need a separate copy of the results. > I cannot import OL filter rules (OK that's a one shot problem, but > I do have loads) - A reasonable thought and not a lot that can be done about it. > I cannot export folders back to OL .PST files - this makes a > migration more risky No, but you can export to other formats or (in-extremis) export the folder contents as .eml or .msg files and drag them into Outlook folders. > The uninstaller doesn't work, for a start, This was introduced in a recent update and is corrected in the next release (1.62e). > and I've had a few 'crashes' (didn't bother recording the > details...) Thoughts on this? Generally TB is acknowledged to be high on stability and on standards support. It also has the most effective filtering system there is and the fastest protocol transport capabilities. If you are a power mail user, it is worth using in earnest for a week. If you are a newbie anxious to make yourself completely immune from viral infection, it is a godsend. If you are happy with the client you have and TB would represent to bug a learning curve / wrench from the familiar then it may not be for you. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/3 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+JCxxOeQkq5KdzaARApzpAJ4igJhLEVR7r3Ft4BxmdDfBzLduzgCg8gAU 7MOcz4rCWy1t/q3OTNPRgSE= =BQ4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
