Sync SmartBat with CalDav server or Windows Calendar

[Andrew Savchenko]

Hello,

I am unsure as to how many of us actually use SmartBat for scheduling, 
but wouldn't it be neat to sync it with an external CalDav or "Windows 
Calendar"?

I have looked around and it seems like such option is currently not
available.

@Ritlabs,
Was this ever requested / discussed / on roadmap?


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Re: Spell Check SmartBat

[Chris]

Roelof Otten @ 1/30/2006 9:50:44 AM
"Spell Check SmartBat" 

>> Is there any way to spell check in SmartBat?
> No.

Is anyone else interested in this?

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Re: Spell Check SmartBat

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:01:45 -0600GMT (30-1-2006, 5:01 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

C> Is there any way to spell check in SmartBat?

No.

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Spell Check SmartBat

[Chris]

Is there any way to spell check in SmartBat?

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Re: Smartbat new features ?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Saturday, September 3, 2005, Ludovic LE MOAL wrote:

>> options "Show in taskbar" and "Allways on top" were added into
>> Preferences dialog.

> What's strange is that I checked "Show in taskbar" when I installed
> the 3.60.07 version. After my problem, I went back to the 3.51.10 and
> I was still able to show it in my taskbar :)

these options were existing before, but was not possible to set them
via Preferences dialog.

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Re: Smartbat new features ?

[Ludovic LE MOAL]

Hi,

On Friday, September 2, 2005 at 11:21:49 PM, Marek Mikus wrote:

>> SO could say me what's new in smart bat ? I can't find notes about
>> it...

> options "Show in taskbar" and "Allways on top" were added into
> Preferences dialog.

What's strange is that I checked "Show in taskbar" when I installed
the 3.60.07 version. After my problem, I went back to the 3.51.10 and
I was still able to show it in my taskbar :)
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Re: Smartbat new features ?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, September 2, 2005, WilWilWil wrote:

> SO could say me what's new in smart bat ? I can't find notes about
> it...

options "Show in taskbar" and "Allways on top" were added into
Preferences dialog.

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Smartbat new features ?

[WilWilWil]

Hi,

SO could say me what's new in smart bat ? I can't find notes about it...

Thanks.

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SmartBat Usability Improvement; Outlook Interface emulation

[Martin Schneider]

Hello,

I also postet this mail in the BETA-Mailinglist and only got one
answer. Maybe in this group more people want to agree/disagree my
opinion. ;)

As the discussion about the SmartBat started I also have a wish:
please improve the usability to create a new date. It should be
possible to create a reminder when double clicking on a date or right
clicking on a date (or date-range) to create the new data. Also there
should be a possibility to see more than the actual month.

For usability (I am sorry to say that) Outlook is the standard. And I
must say for usability Outlook is quite okay for the Calendar. So
please have a look there how to make easy usage of calendar.

Also good would be that you can invite people. It would be perfect if
it even would be compatible with Outlook for invitations and
confirmations and stuff like that. I think many business user would
wish that feature.

I hope not to get flames because I mention a product which really is
not good (as a mail client) but it is fine with the workgroup
usability. If you could improve the handling of "The Bat" in the
scheduler that would be great.

Another question I have is that almost every software is able to
synchronise with Outlook. However if you want to use another (better)
software then you have the problem that you can't synchronise data
(calender, contacts, etc.) with the other software (e.g. MobilePhone
software, PDA's and stuff like that).

Would there be a possibility to program a interface which is
simulating Outlook but retrieving data from "The Bat"?

And what do you think about such an interface? I think it would be
very helpful and would make "The Bat" for many people (who need the
workgroup function) an alternative.

And no, this for sure is not a showstopper for the release of the
actual version of "The Bat". But I think this feature no other
software has so far! So think about it. ;)

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Nick,

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:42:42 -0600 GMT (30/10/2003, 04:42 +0700 GMT),
Nick Danger wrote:

> Failing that, does anyone know of a way to stop me from getting
> infuriated

Meditation?

scnr

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> When I tried it yesterday it didn't, but now it does again too.

Maybe it is also due to daylight saving time change last weekend ;-)

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[Ravi/Shell-Shocked]

> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting
> the time tagline when first opening up?

This is again a workaround - but it's what I use with some
success.

Instead of restarting SmartBat every time, hide and show it
with your favourite hiding/showing utility.

For me it's powerpro.

This way the time only gets inserted if I ever restart TB -
which is like almost never.

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MAU,

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:56:25 +0100GMT (30-10-03, 0:56 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

>> Start the Scheduler instead SmartBat and then switch to SmartBat.
M> It still inserts the time tag line here.

When I tried it yesterday it didn't, but now it does again too.

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> Start the Scheduler instead SmartBat and then switch to SmartBat.

It still inserts the time tag line here.

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Re: Dummying up SmartBat

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Nick,

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:42:42 -0600GMT (29-10-03, 22:42 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

ND> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
ND> tagline when first opening up?

Start the Scheduler instead SmartBat and then switch to SmartBat. I'll
readily admit that it's a lousy workaround, but...

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Dummying up SmartBat

[Nick Danger]

Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
tagline when first opening up?

Failing that, does anyone know of a way to stop me from getting
infuriated at it every time I have to either delete the line or page
back and forth to remove it?

I keep hearing the voice of Steve Lamb in my head screaming at the
program "Don't assume you know I want the date automatically inserted
on startup!"

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Re: How do you use SMARTBAT?

[ken green]

Allen wrote:
> It's small enough and discrete enough that should a user not wish to
> use it, it won't be in the way pestering them.


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Re: How do you use SMARTBAT?

[Allen]

10/23/2003, 12:41 AM: Darrin said in "How do you use SMARTBAT?"

D> Hi,  I  havent  really messed with this feature and was curious about
D> how  others  are  using,  if  they  are  using  it. Seems like a nice
D> feature, but in my opinion ritlabs should keep their concentration on
D> other features of TB instead of something like this. Isnt this what a
D> PIM is for?

I  find  it  handy  to  have  the  little notepad right there within the
program  for various annotations -- handier than swapping out to another
program.  I  also have it configured to send out some birthday greetings
automatically, just in case I forget -- but that's about it. I don't use
it too heavily.

I'd  be  bothered if TB became a fully-bl[own/oated] PIM like Outlook --
however,  I  donn't mind the presence of SmartBat. It's small enough and
discrete  enough  that  should a user not wish to use it, it won't be in
the way pestering them.

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Re: How do you use SMARTBAT?

[Vishal]

Hi Darrin

Thursday, October 23, 2003, 12:41:45 AM, you wrote:

D> Isnt this what a PIM is for?

Wouldn't be surprised if they headed that way..they've got a great address book,
email client, notepad and scheduler..what next? and they've certainly got the
smarts to produce a good PIM.

I wonder if this'll start a whole new slew of "YES!"s and "NOOO!"s :)

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How do you use SMARTBAT?

[Darrin]

Wednesday, October 22, 2003
9:39:09 PM

Hi,
I havent really messed with this feature and was curious about how
others are using, if they are using it. Seems like a nice feature, but
in my opinion ritlabs should keep their concentration on other
features of TB instead of something like this. Isnt this what a PIM is
for?
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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[MAU]

Hello Jernej,

> Hmm, I've heard somewhere that M$ stopped supporting CSAPI in Office XP, but
> it should work with 2k - at lease I can choose Slovenian (CSAPI) from the
> spell checker menu. I'm missing the English and German CSAPI entries though
> (I have those two dictionaries installed, too; with Office 97 I did have
> English CSAPI entry in TB).

I never tried with 97 but, as I say, TB doesn't seem to see any CSAPI
dics with Office 2000 or XP. At least in my system.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[Jernej Simončič]

On Thursday, September 18, 2003, 0:06:25, MAU wrote:

> XP (in Spanish) running on Win2K. But up to a couple of months ago I had
> Office 2000 in English and TB did not find CSAPI dics either.

Hmm, I've heard somewhere that M$ stopped supporting CSAPI in Office XP, but
it should work with 2k - at lease I can choose Slovenian (CSAPI) from the
spell checker menu. I'm missing the English and German CSAPI entries though
(I have those two dictionaries installed, too; with Office 97 I did have
English CSAPI entry in TB).

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[MAU]

Hello Jernej,

> Which Office do you have?

XP (in Spanish) running on Win2K. But up to a couple of months ago I had
Office 2000 in English and TB did not find CSAPI dics either.

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[MAU]

Hello Marck,

> No, because they always just plain "worked" for me, so I don't know
> what to suggest to help you *make* them work for you.

Thanks anyway.

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[Jernej Simončič]

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 20:21:09, MAU wrote:

> This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work in my
> PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why this may be or
> any way to force TB to find them?

Which Office do you have?

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

U>> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
U>> spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

> Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
> redlines synchrinize 

That doesn't change the fact that it would be a good idea if TB's
interface and the IntPack were consistent with eachother.

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Re: CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Mau,

@17-Sep-2003, 20:21 +0200 (19:21 UK time) MAU [M] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

>> Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary...

M> This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work
M> in my PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why
M> this may be or any way to force TB to find them?

No, because they always just plain "worked" for me, so I don't know
what to suggest to help you *make* them work for you.

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CSAPI dictionary (was: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness>

[MAU]

Hello Marck,

> Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary...

This reminds me that I could never get CSAPI dictionaries to work in my
PC. TB doesn't even find them. Do you have any idea why this may be or
any way to force TB to find them?

TIA.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

@17-Sep-2003, 18:24 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Urban:

MDP> correctly redlines synchrinize ...

... and synchronize  (d'oh!).

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 12:17 +0200 (11:17 UK time) Urban [U] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to
Marck:

>> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
>> English spellings throughout.

U> TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the
U> American spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

Yes, but the CSAPI British dictionary is more accurate and correctly
redlines synchrinize (and why are you arguing British spelling with
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

> TB, being an effectively European product uses standard British
> English spellings throughout.

TB is entirely consistent in this. Both the British and the American
spellcheckers redlines synchronise here.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Urban,

@17-Sep-2003, 00:49 +0200 (23:49 UK time) Urban [U] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to
myob:

U> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

>> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

U> Wow, I just discovered... Neither is the word synchronise (in the
U> Tools menu) The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

Synchronise is British English. Synchronize is the American
spelling, now also adopted in British English as an alternative
spelling. TB, being an effectively European product uses standard
British English spellings throughout.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Bob Morris]

G'day Urban,


Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:49:03 AM, you wrote:

U> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

>> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

U> Wow, I just discovered...
U> Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu)
U> The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.


I guess that depends on whether you use an "English" dictionary as
used in most of the English speaking world, or an American one.
"SmartBat" is of course a trade name so unlikely to appear in either
version.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Urban]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, myob wrote:

> SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

Wow, I just discovered...
Neither is the word synchronise (in the Tools menu)
The word synchronize, however, seems to be correct.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:48:27 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 23:48 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> I vote for the above.

I have sent it to the wishlist as "Bug report 1720". I don't know why
it is called a bug report, I checked and I was really in the wishlist.

> And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads.

LOL!

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 9:30:10 PM, you wrote:

>> Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab?

> Maybe. But that would be a wishlist item and not a bug report. ;-)

I agree.  I was just mumbling to myself.  :)

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 10:34:24 PM, you wrote:

> Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the
> file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional.
> Setting in SmartBat itself:

> 1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted
> 2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted
> 3.) Ask every time

I vote for the above.

And my ballot has been swept of all hanging chads.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 5:05:29 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Jack,

> Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote:

JM>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
> context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
> the menu which I assume applies to selected text?

Mark, I was talking about deletion via Windows Explorer, when one no longer
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Mark,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

JM>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
> context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
> the menu which I assume applies to selected text?

That's probably why the "delete" command doesn't work on the pad
itself because it's a text delete command.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[myob]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT(16/09/2003, 2:17 AM + GMT), Jack Morrison 
wrote:

JM> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a
JM> new pad named "Clips."

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

I was unable to delete things too - which is why I stopped
using SmartBat. [A word not in the dictionary, I see.]

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Mark L]

Hello Jack,

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 2:17:30 AM, you wrote:

JM> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

Where is the 'Delete pad' command. I can only find a 'Close pad' under the
context menu? I have a 'Delete' option only under the Editor section of
the menu which I assume applies to selected text?
The Close pad I find useful as you can then reopen Pads to edit them
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:40:23 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:40 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF>> always, so... ;-)

> It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

Right. I just tried it. It is much more convenient than firing up vim
every time I come across a new cookie.

> In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
> if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

I see no reason to delete the tab.

> My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means
> of you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

The name of the file is identical with the name of the tab. Default
location is "...\The Bat!\Mail", but if you navigate and open a file
in another directory, I cannot find a way to make that directory
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
TF> always, so... ;-)

It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing.

I also use it to edit my mass mailing template.

I save occasional clips of text that I wish to keep.

In fact, in all my uses, I don't wish to delete the linked text document
if I wish to delete the pad in SmartBat!

My only grouse here is that SmartBat! doesn't seem to offer a means of
you knowing where the linked text file is and its name.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:19:33 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 10:19 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

TF>> The point is, TB should delete the file automatically.

> If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
> using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
> longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
> the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
> one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
> SmartBat use.

Ohm that's a way of using SmartBat I never thought about - a
replacement text editor.

Well, we have different needs here, so I agree that whether or not the
file should be deleted when the pad is deleted thought be optional.
Setting in SmartBat itself:

1.) Delete text file when pad is deleted
2.) Keep text file when pad is deleted
3.) Ask every time

The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Allie Martin]

Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:

TF> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
TF> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
TF> automatically.

If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been
using it as a means to edit certain text files quickly. If I wish to no
longer do so, I wish to remove the pad and not delete the actual file at
the same time. An automatic deletion would assume that the only reason
one would have need for the linked text file would be in the context of
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
> automatically.

Can't argue with that ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:08:45 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:08 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
>> number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> I haven't reported anything, because I'm not even sure what to
> report yet.

We are working on it. When people confirm what I have just described,
that's what we will report.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:59:50 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:59 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> But the text file stays on the HD.

> Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
> select "delete". Poof, gone ;-)

Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that
way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 21:07:14 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 09:07 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

>> I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
>> is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
>> the maintab in the new tab.

> Shouldn't there be a way to set the default opening tab?

Maybe. But that would be a wishlist item and not a bug report. ;-)

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:41:24 PM, you wrote:

> Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
> number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:41:24 PM, you wrote:

> I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not
> confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not
> Internet Explorer,

Yup. Sorry about that.

> and I used total Commander instead and deleted the
> file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in
> SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty:

> I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
> is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
> the maintab in the new tab.

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Re[2]: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Jack Morrison]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:31:01 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Jack,

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in
> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
>> "Clips."

>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

Yup.  That does it.

And it saves on missile costs, too.

Thanks!

But it's still discomforting; I don't have a lot of faith in
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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Thomas,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 you wrote in 

>> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
>> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

> But the text file stays on the HD.

Select "New pad". Right click on selected pad from file list and
select "delete". Poof, gone ;-)

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Richard,

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:01 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:31 +0700 GMT),
Richard Wakeford wrote:

>> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

> If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
> the way it should work I know, but it does ;-)

But the text file stays on the HD.

I have noticed that the missing part from the main pad is back now
that I have used "Close Pad". So that one is simply a display bug.

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:17:30 -0500 GMT (16/09/2003, 08:17 +0700 GMT),
Jack Morrison wrote:

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!
> It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do.

Confirmed. When you report it to backtrack, please advise the Bug ID
number for those of us who want to keep an eye on it.

> You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via
> Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index.

I didn't try the cruise missile thing, so that part is not
confirmed... By MS Explorer, I guess you mean windows Explorer and not
Internet Explorer, and I used total Commander instead and deleted the
file while TB closed. Upon restart of TB, the tab is still there in
SmartBat, but of course the text is gone. But it is not empty:

I had two entries in the Main Tab. When I open SmartBat, the new tab
is opened automatically, and I see the older of the two entries from
the maintab in the new tab. When I go to the main tab, that entry is
missing. Back to the new tab, it is gone there too. Closing SmartBat
and reopening it shows the entry back in the new tab and missing from
the main tab, but gone again when going back to the new tab. No text
file for the new tab on the HD. Anybody can confirm this?

So, I type something into the new tab. A text file gets created on the
HD. Close SmartBat, reopen, the old entry from the main tab is there
again, plus the newly-type text. Main tab is still missing that entry.
Back to new tab shows only the newly-typed text. Text file on HD
contains only the newly-typed text. Is anybody seeing the same?

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Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 you wrote in <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
> "Clips."

> Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

If you use "Close pad" instead, then it goes - no missile needed. Not
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[Jack Morrison]

First, create a "new pad" in SmartBat.  For example, a new pad named
"Clips."

Now try to delete it.  Good luck with that!

It will remain in the SmartBat's tabular index no matter what you do.
You can even fire a cruise missile at it, totally destroying it via
Microsoft Explorer, but it will *still* be included in the tabular index.

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Re: Smartbat

[Carsten Thönges]

* Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[SmartBat]

>> What's it for?
>> It appears to be a text editor, but what is its purpose?

> You  -can-  put text/notes in there . . . [...]

You can link a pad with some text file (F6, right click, New Pad,
select a text file).

If you receive newsletters you could extract relevant or important
parts from those mails using TB! filters and append them to that
file linked to SmartBat.

There was¹ a German website where you could input your favorite
actors, directors, movies genres etc and they sent you a newsletter
telling you when there was something on TV that fitted your
preferences. Needless to say that these newsletter came with a whole
lot of advertising. So I created a filter to extract the one line
with the important information and appended it to a text file.

Later I just had to press F6 to take a look at the list of good
movies on TV the next days.

Just a thought about using SmartBat.

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Re: Smartbat

[Paul Richardson]

Allen wrote:

> in the future
> it can act as a scheduler

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Re: Smartbat

[Allen]

PR> What's it for?
PR> It appears to be a text editor, but what is its purpose?

PR> Not mentioned in the help file.

You  -can-  put text/notes in there . . . more usefully, in the future
[as  already  implemented  in  the betas] it can act as a scheduler as
well  --  reminding  you  of  birthdays or other events, automatically
sending   out   emails   based   on  time/date  --  sort  of  a  mini
calendar/scheduler.   If  I recall, in the 1.62 release, all it really
is is a text editor to store notes to yourself in.

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What's it for?
It appears to be a text editor, but what is its purpose?

Not mentioned in the help file.

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Re: Smartbat hotkeys

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello ravi,

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:54:19 +0100 GMT (11/07/03, 15:54 +0700 GMT),
ravi wrote:

> For example in the main editor I can change the autoformat
> key from Ctrl+Shift+F to whatever I like.

> I can't seem to do this in SmartBat :-(

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[ravi]

> Does Alt-F12 not do what you want? You can change the
> SmartBat hotkey from F6 to anything you like (conditions
> apply). ;-)

I don't want to change the key to access SmartBat - but the
keys used within.

For example in the main editor I can change the autoformat
key from Ctrl+Shift+F to whatever I like.

I can't seem to do this in SmartBat :-(

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Re: Smartbat hotkeys

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello ravi,

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:58:35 +0100 GMT (10/07/03, 21:58 +0700 GMT),
ravi wrote:

> Is there any way to change the SmartBat hotkeys?

Does Alt-F12 not do what you want? You can change the SmartBat hotkey
from F6 to anything you like (conditions apply). ;-)

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Re: SmartBat new features?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Jan,

On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 1:56:37 PM you [JR] wrote (at least
in part):

PP>> [...] I guess it's not for integrating
PP>> different editors, but more for being
PP>> able to switch between Editor and e.g.
PP>> Calendar and whatever should come with
PP>> "PIM" functionality which is announced.
PP>> [/...]

JR>   Sorry, I must have missed this. There was
JR>   an announced PIM functionality for TB! ?
JR>   Can you point me to it or was it to the
JR>   German list? TIA

Don't know if I've read something about this on TBBETA or only on
German list. Chances are this information was only given by German
distributor ... All I know is: Stefan is working on it and it was
planed to be already released but not stable enough, not even for a
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Re: SmartBat new features?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 12:47:01 PM you [DH] wrote (at least
in part):

>> I guess it's not for integrating different editors, but more for being
>> able to switch between Editor and e.g. Calendar and whatever should
>> come with "PIM" functionality which is announced.

DH> Then I want at least the editor of my choice being in SmartBat instead
DH> of Notepad.

I guess "Notepad" is just "a name" in this context.
This editor, currently included and used, does not have anything in
common with Notepad for me, except the fact is allows to enter
characters. Notepad is not capable of displaying bold characters, nor
colored ones. It does not evaluate e.g. the "Calculator" makro, etc,
etc.

So I guess chances are not very high the editor will change, but the
same low chances are the "real Notepad" will be used.
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Re: SmartBat new features?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Peter!

On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 11:28:39 AM you wrote:

> I guess it's not for integrating different editors, but more for being
> able to switch between Editor and e.g. Calendar and whatever should
> come with "PIM" functionality which is announced.

Then I want at least the editor of my choice being in SmartBat instead
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Re: SmartBat new features?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 10:08:04 AM you [DH] wrote (at least
in part):

>>   Are there any attempts at documenting this feature (besides the FAQ
>>   which has some brief mentions of it)???

DH> And when this new design will do what I think it will - namely
DH> incorporating various editors into TB via SmartBat

I guess it's not for integrating different editors, but more for being
able to switch between Editor and e.g. Calendar and whatever should
come with "PIM" functionality which is announced.
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Re: SmartBat new features?

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Jim!

On Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 12:32:13 AM you wrote:

>   Are there any attempts at documenting this feature (besides the FAQ
>   which has some brief mentions of it)???

And when this new design will do what I think it will - namely
incorporating various editors into TB via SmartBat - when will others
installed on a system, like TextPad on mine, be supported?




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SmartBat new features?

[Jim D]

Myotis Mates,

  I notice that my F6 SmartBat now has what looks like tabs along the
  left margin...the one there says "Notepad". Still nothing in the
  Help Files about SmartBat, and I still can't print a file open in
  it.

  Are there any attempts at documenting this feature (besides the FAQ
  which has some brief mentions of it)???

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Re: Printing from SmartBat?

[Tim Musson]

Hey Jim,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, December 5, 2002 at 12:38:04 PM.

JD> Myotis Mates,

JD>   Is there any way to print a text file from SmartBat? I can't seem to
JD>   find a way to do it. Seems to be a pretty fundamental feature, I am
JD>   surprised that there seems to be no way to do it...

Not that I know of.  You could always open the file SmartBat keeps
it's data in and print that.  ...\MAIL\SmartBat.INI has the settings.

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[Jim D]

Myotis Mates,

  Is there any way to print a text file from SmartBat? I can't seem to
  find a way to do it. Seems to be a pretty fundamental feature, I am
  surprised that there seems to be no way to do it...

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Sudip Pokhrel]

Hi Jan,

On Sunday, September 29, 2002 09:55 your local time, (19:40 my local
time), you [JR] wrote:

JR> I guess you know that you can assign a system hot_key to call
JR> SmartBat up from anywhere. Right? That makes it sort of
JR> independent. :-)

Yes that's how I call SmartBat, but this obviously requires running
TB! all the time. More importantly, I'm stressing independent SmartBat
because it would (or should) include basic functionality like Save,
Print, Open, etc. Besides, it would be a nice freeware gift from
RITLabs... ;)

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Paul Wilson]

Sunday, 9/29/2002, 8:59 AM

Hi Joseph,
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 21:22:58 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:22 PM where I live) 
you wrote about: 'SmartBat maintenance'

JN> Okay, I confess to not having read these posts on SmartBat very
JN> closely, since I haven't used it much and find better alternatives
JN> most of the time.  But  what do you mean "one file" for this and
JN> another for that?  I don't see the interface between SmartBat and
JN> multiple files, or the file-open or index views that presumably would
JN> be needed.  What do you mean?

Open SmartBat,(F6) right click in the body of the pad, choose new pad,
or press Ctrl-n, name the new file and you have a new tab at the
bottom. I do wish that links and E-mail addresses could be made
clickable in SmartBat.
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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Quin,

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:38:07 -0600GMT (29-9-02, 6:38 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

QS> Where did you learn of CTRL + F4? It works as you said.

I pressed in SmartBat (in the text field) on the right mouse button,
there I saw New tab, Next tab, Previous tab, Close tab. And all of
them had shortcuts.

In lots of programs, the right mouse button gives the local options
for an object. You can try that before searching in help files etc.

QS> But what about Count=0 and Active=0? I guess "Count=n" means the total

Dunno.

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Quin Selman]

Hello Roelof,

Saturday, September 28, 2002, 4:36:14 PM, you wrote:

QS>> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat?

> Press  and the focused tab is closed. This doesn't work
> for the main-tab. The tab is closed and after exiting and starting
> SB the tab won't appear again, but the file that was allocated to
> the tab still exists.

Where did you learn of CTRL + F4? It works as you said.

I see in SmartBat.INI,

[Pads]
Count=0
Active=0
Pad#1=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Billybong.txt

where Billybong.txt represents the contents of the tab I deleted with
CTL + F4.

If I delete the whole line, "Pad#1=C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\MAIL\Billybong.txt," the file that was allocated to that tab (I
guess "Pad#1" is what the "tab" should be called) is removed.

But what about Count=0 and Active=0? I guess "Count=n" means the total
number of tabs (where just the main tab=0) but
what does "Active=n" mean?

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Quin Selman]

Hello Thomas,

Saturday, September 28, 2002, 10:35:57 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Quin,

> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600 GMT (28/09/02, 22:42 +0700 GMT),
> Quin Selman wrote:

QS>> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat?

>   key?

Nope. It's never that simple, is it?

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Sudip Pokhrel]

Hi Paul,

On Saturday, September 28, 2002 18:16 your local time, (Sunday, 07:01
my local time), you wrote:

> I use it for saving macros and QT's that people post. One file for
...
> I have found it to be one of the most useful features of The Bat!

Yes, and I would like to see Smartbat made into an independent
executable program - mainly because I'm so addicted to TB!'s editor
that I'd like to use a similar environment for notes, snippets, etc.
And, yes nothing like this (free caret editor) exists or at least -
despite searching vehemently - I have not been able to find one.

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Re[2]: SmartBat maintenance

[Joseph N.]

   On Saturday, September 28, 2002, Paul Wilson wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> One file for recipes another for notes that will eventually go into
> a message to be sent. I have a file that my wife and I use for notes
> to each other, things to do, shopping list

Okay, I confess to not having read these posts on SmartBat very
closely, since I haven't used it much and find better alternatives
most of the time.  But  what do you mean "one file" for this and
another for that?  I don't see the interface between SmartBat and
multiple files, or the file-open or index views that presumably would
be needed.  What do you mean?

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Paul Wilson]

Saturday, 9/28/2002, 6:11 PM

Hi Alexander,
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 01:34:43 [GMT +0300] (which was 3:34 PM where I live) 
you wrote about: 'SmartBat maintenance'


AC> While we are at it, what purpose was SmartBat designed for?  I
AC> can't see anything mentioned in the documentation...

I use it for saving macros and QT's that people post. One file for
recipes another for notes that will eventually go into a message to be
sent. I have a file that my wife and I use for notes to each other,
things to do, shopping list. I have found it to be one of the most
useful features of The Bat!
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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Alexander Cicovic]

Hello there,

While we are at it, what purpose was SmartBat designed for?  I
can't see anything mentioned in the documentation...



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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Quin,

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600GMT (28-9-02, 17:42 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

QS> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat?

 Press  and the focused tab is closed. This doesn't work for
 the main-tab.
 The tab is closed and after exiting and starting SB the tab won't
 appear again, but the file that was allocated to the tab still
 exists.

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Re: SmartBat maintenance

[Thomas F.]

Hello Quin,

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:42:22 -0600 GMT (28/09/02, 22:42 +0700 GMT),
Quin Selman wrote:

QS> How do we delete a tab from SmartBat?

  key?

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Hello TBUDL,

  How do we delete a tab from SmartBat?

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Re: SmartBat doesn't hyperlink

[Jonathan Angliss]

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On Thursday, August 22, 2002, Joseph N. wrote...

> Web links pasted into SmartBat take on the blue, underlined
> appearance of hot links, but they do not link. Clicking or
> double-clicking on them doesn't get anywhere.

This was mentioned about 23rd May, in the thread "Re: Link catching,
was Re: Cookies wanted!" ;)

> Is there some reason this would be appropriate, or is it a bug?

I'd say they either didn't put it there, or did it by design... who
knows.  I'd probably assume they forgot to put it in... maybe put it
on the wishlist to see if it can be included in later versions.

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[Joseph N.]

I confess to not having read the last few threads on SmartBat,
thinking quickly and erroneously that it was one of those TB! variants
in the crypto category.  Now that I have my own SmartBat comment, I'm
hoping this hasn't already been raised

Web links pasted into SmartBat take on the blue, underlined appearance
of hot links, but they do not link.  Clicking or double-clicking on
them doesn't get anywhere.

Is there some reason this would be appropriate, or is it a bug?

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Re: Printing from SmartBat

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jim,

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:03:41 -0700GMT (15-8-02, 19:03 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

JD> I can't seem to find a way to print from a SmartBat pad. Is there
JD> really no way to do this? Or am I just missing the obvious?

I don't see a way either. Only option seems to be copy and into
notepad or something like it.

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[Jim D]

Hello tbudl,

  I can't seem to find a way to print from a SmartBat pad. Is there
  really no way to do this? Or am I just missing the obvious?

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Re: QT's, was-Re: SmartBat

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Paul,
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:42:07 -0400, you wrote:

> JA> Or you could create a quick template shared to all accounts, and called it
> JA> say newcookie, and all you put in it is:
> 
> JA> %COOKIE="c:\path\to\cookie.txt"
> 
> JA> then if you don't like the one you have, delete it, then type
> JA> newcookie.  This saves submitting it as a suggestion, and it
> JA> also saves having to selected a file if you use the same file for cookies
> JA> all the time.
> 
> thanks for reminding me, I forgot I lost my cookie templates in the
> crash!!! I named my QT "nc" ( newcookie, but easier to type:).

Glad it was useful.  I wasn't sure if it'd work as required, but I'm sure it
matches.  I only picked newcookie because I use an "nc" QT for new clients ;)

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QT's, was-Re: SmartBat

[Paul Cartwright]

On Saturday, August 10, 2002, 9:28 PM, you wrote:

JA> Or you could create a quick template shared to all accounts, and called it say
JA> newcookie, and all you put in it is:

JA> %COOKIE="c:\path\to\cookie.txt"

JA> then if you don't like the one you have, delete it, then type
JA> newcookie.  This saves submitting it as a suggestion, and it also
JA> saves having to selected a file if you use the same file for cookies all the
JA> time.

thanks for reminding me, I forgot I lost my cookie templates in the
crash!!! I named my QT "nc" ( newcookie, but easier to type:).


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Re: SmartBat

[Jonathan Angliss]

Hi Cricket,
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:11:30 -0400, you wrote:

> I think I can follow what MT was asking ... I have the "%Cookie=..."
> macro in my template and it works fine. However, if the displayed Tag
> is not what I want or is not appropriate for the message and I want to
> change it, I would highlight the tag, right click and select "Insert
> Cookie". I believe THESE cookies are the ones he is talking about.
> They come from the "Cookie Window" that is loaded at
> Account->Properties->Templates-Cookies.

Or you could create a quick template shared to all accounts, and called it say
newcookie, and all you put in it is:

%COOKIE="c:\path\to\cookie.txt"

then if you don't like the one you have, delete it, then type
newcookie.  This saves submitting it as a suggestion, and it also
saves having to selected a file if you use the same file for cookies all the
time.

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Re: SmartBat

[Cricket]

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On Saturday, August 10, 2002 Sudip Pokhrel stated:

SP> Hi Michael,

SP> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:13:19 +0100 GMT (Aug 10, 12:58 my local time),
SP> you [MT] wrote:

MT>> Now, my question is this, how can you get your Cookies line to
MT>> look to this file, without having to Import them into the Cookie
MT>> Window?

SP> Insert: %cookie="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\cookies.txt" into your
SP> template, of course substitute the path accordingly.

I think I can follow what MT was asking ... I have the "%Cookie=..."
macro in my template and it works fine. However, if the displayed Tag
is not what I want or is not appropriate for the message and I want to
change it, I would highlight the tag, right click and select "Insert
Cookie". I believe THESE cookies are the ones he is talking about.
They come from the "Cookie Window" that is loaded at
Account->Properties->Templates-Cookies.

Mayhaps this should go to the suggestion box, but instead of
preloading the tags, this could be set to contain a listing of cookie
files. Then you could split your cookies to different files according
to content. And when you want to insert a cookie, you can select from
a specific file or "random".


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Re: SmartBat

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Michael,

@10 August 2002, 08:13 +0100  Michael Thompson [MT] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MT>   Now, my question is this, how can you get your Cookies line to
MT>   look to this file, without having to Import them into the Cookie
MT>   Window?

I keep mine in a file and use the macro like this to access them:
%cookie="C:\My documents\TB\Cookies.txt".

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Re: SmartBat

[Sudip Pokhrel]

Hi Michael,

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:13:19 +0100 GMT (Aug 10, 12:58 my local time),
you [MT] wrote:

MT> Now, my question is this, how can you get your Cookies line to
MT> look to this file, without having to Import them into the Cookie
MT> Window?

Insert: %cookie="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\cookies.txt" into your
template, of course substitute the path accordingly.

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SmartBat

[Michael Thompson]

Hello TBUDL,

  From The FAQ


  |For instance, I keep my "cookies" file in there, which makes it really easy to add 
new taglines as
  |and when they come in ;-).


  Now, my question is this, how can you get your Cookies line to look
  to this file, without having to Import them into the Cookie Window?
  
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Re: SmartBat

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Julius.

At 11:42 PM on Sunday, July 28, 2002 you wrote the following
about [SmartBat]:

JS> Could you please tell me more on how you use it? I still
JS> don't get it.

JS> I have CLIPMATE which can copy anything onto the
JS> clipboard, lets me edit and print or attach.

  I find it useful for a number of things.

  Maybe if RIT Labs included the possibility of auto
  clipping & printing, it might be more useful to you --
  replacing climate as a separate program since you can call
  it by a system wide hotkey. Depends on your use of
  clipboards.

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Re: SmartBat

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Hi Julius,

@29 July 2002, 23:42 -0400 (04:42 UK time)  Julius S. [JS] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Dierk Haasis:

JS> Could you please tell me more on how you use it? I still don't get
JS> it.

,-=[ From the FAQ: ]=-
SmartBat is a hotkey (default=f6) accessible notepad replacement that
functions similar to TB message editing. It keeps its text in
%TBdir%\Mail\SmartBat.TXT (settings in SmartBat.INI). Also, it saves
each time you exit.

You can load up a whole raft of default pads. For instance, I keep my
"cookies" file in there, which makes it really easy to add new
taglines as and when they come in ;-).

Open SmartBat!, Press Ctrl-N. It prompts you for a new file to open.
Select the file.

That's it. Now you have two tabs at the bottom of the SmartBat!
screen, and the one you just opened. Want another file permanently on
tap? Open that one too. I currently have 7 files auto-loaded into
SmartBat. And very nice it is too.
`|

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Re: SmartBat

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Julius!

On Monday, July 29, 2002 at 5:42:59 AM you wrote:

> Could you please tell me more on how you use it? I still don't get it.

I don't. Most of the time because I have a clipboard extender called
MultipleClipboard, which offers me 10 clipboards - usually enough for
me. After I have collected snippets there I paste them into TextPad or
directly into the application where I need them and compose my text.

I've only used SmartBat on two or three instances as a notebook,
mostly for testing purposes. Since PowerPro offers a utility "Notes"
(PostIts) I don't need SmartBat.


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Re[2]: SmartBat

[Julius S.]

Hi there, Dierk,

Could you please tell me more on how you use it? I still don't get it.

I  have  CLIPMATE  which can copy anything onto the clipboard, lets me edit
and print or attach.

Thanks,

   Julius, Montreal. ]
   

Saturday, July 27, 2002, 2:40:59 AM, you wrote:

DH> Hello Julius!

DH> On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 5:21:46 AM you wrote:

>>   Can  anyone  point  me  to  where  I  can learn about the real utility of
>>   SmartBat tool?

DH> You've already found the right place.

DH> SmartBat is a kind of clipboard extension to collect snippets from
DH> different mails (or other texts) for editing purposes. You can, for
DH> example, built up a collection of quotations from various mails you
DH> want to answer in only one reply to. You can also put in any other
DH> text information from different sources (through the clipboard) to
DH> compose a new mail body. that way you can even use external editors
DH> to compose a message.







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 Julius



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