Re[6]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello tracer, t I leave this to someone else to comment on as I havent got the time to t visit your system (g). well, as I'm behind 3 proxies 2 firewalls you may need some time... Roel no, only dos finds the drives... Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to Roel running 95/98 systems...) t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as t this makes absolutely no sense. Motherboard: not really sure it's an Intel it supports the pentium 75,90,100 120 not sure about the chipset... Processor: intel pentium 75 Linux: SuSe 6.2, sco-unix: 5.03, Beos 4.0 - They all screw up... only msdos survives... Roel since it's a rather old motherboard, I'm forced to use 'extended Roel chs'... lba-mode finds about 500 mb of a 3.1GB disk... t sounds like this is the reason.. well, the problem occurs before there should be the need for an os: it happens at system-check... (the bios rejects the drive on startup, the os doesn't have a clue there is even one...) t Once you fiddle with the bios, almost any os gets a problem unless you t use special tools to get at the other part of the drive I can't even get an error from the os... as the os sits on the hard-disk that has vanished from the system-check... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My wife ran away with my best friend. I sure miss him. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[7]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Hello Roel, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello tracer, Roel no, only dos finds the drives... Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to Roel running 95/98 systems...) t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as t this makes absolutely no sense. Roel Motherboard: not really sure Roel it's an Intel it supports the pentium 75,90,100 120 As far as I know P60/66/75 and 90 were on one kind of chipset. 100 had a different board and then 120/133 up had another chipset again. Its a bit history but I think as sockets where different size unlikely they all could fit on your board I have had an Intel p60 in the far past and never had problems but my drives were small. Ok, I have asked a few friends as well if they have any ideas. I mean if you can run dos it should be possible to get Linux on it (!) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote: Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote: Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Samba. Sure, build a firewall to keep your intranet secure, and then run Samba. Tomorrow, folks, we build submarines with screen doors. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Seems like hell :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with a large hammer .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999, 6:39:29 AM, Roel wrote: SL Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Seems like hell :-) Better than trying to find a free NFS for Windows. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Roel, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello tracer, Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail t if you donot do that Roel use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) ok... understood... never used it that way, I like mail to sit on my pc!! Roel here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is Roel keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an Roel internet gateway... Roel since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the Roel occasional defrag scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to Roel reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason) sounds like my kids could loose their p75 (g) Roel This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the Roel other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... ok, will try that but that means having to network that lot and thats work in the house... t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... t C only has the MS and OS stuff. Roel same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up running Roel in 15 minutes :-) 100% agreed. Thats one of the services I offer them here, cloned copy of their proper running system so if they mess it up (g) they can be back in 15 minutes as it was when they liked it. Better for me as its hard work recovering stuff, dificult to charge for and customer unhappy as system isnt the same. All they have to do is keep added software and make backups of data. Their system is on a cd as ghost image (well, a few at present...) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Hello Steve, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote: Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 6:19:33 PM, Roel wrote: use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) Steve Uhm, sure. I'll just share my mail folders over the internet. ;) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... Steve *cough* No comment. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Uhm, sure. I'll just share my mail folders over the internet. ;) no, that doesn't happen as I'm working with 2 network-cards here (cable-modems, you gotta love 'em) all I have to do to prevent this, is turn off the bindings for 'file printer sharing' 'client for microsoft networks' on the network-card connected to my cable-modem et voila: you can't login anymore :-) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... SL If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. tried it, linux couldn't find my hard-disks :-( - and as we all know it's rather difficult to run without one ;) No really, this was my original idea, but some weird problem (not solely linux, also sco-unix and beos can't find it...) therefore, I'm condemned to running windows... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) Exactly. Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry. If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept? It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse my venting. Because Windows is still considered a single-user environment and people don't move from one machine to the other. This is quickly becoming not the case as computers become more pervasive. To think, Unix got it right 20-30 years ago yet there are still people who don't get it when others say that Microsoft has seriously stifled innovation. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, Well, it does have advantages over the ini-concept (no 64k-limit, additional data-types,...) SL Those limits are arbitrary. not if you use the microsoft-routines for accessing ini-files... (if you use just a write/read then it's limited to 4GB) Personaly: the registry concept is a good thing for certain programs (office stuff like that) it surely does have it advantages (everything is stored in a single place, making things much easier for programmers etc) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? (i mean user-specific settings that also work on an nt-network with server-based user-profiles for example) SL Or the fact that you want to move a program from one drive to another SL because one drive is getting close to full. I'm sorry, but anything which SL breaks because of basic system maintenance should be grounds for castration. Indeed, but there are utils that fix these things (I know, it should have been provided by MS...) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you ain't Moslem, you ain't Shiite. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: (OT): Windows Registry
Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:03:57 PM, Roel wrote: Well, it does have advantages over the ini-concept (no 64k-limit, additional data-types,...) SL Those limits are arbitrary. not if you use the microsoft-routines for accessing ini-files... (if you use just a write/read then it's limited to 4GB) Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in them, don't they? :) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? Flat files in a user's home directory. (i mean user-specific settings that also work on an nt-network with server-based user-profiles for example) An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. Indeed, but there are utils that fix these things (I know, it should have been provided by MS...) Exactly. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in SL them, don't they? :) well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and maybe even lower...) so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? SL Flat files in a user's home directory. well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the registry) (about the latter one: don't ask me how or even why, but it can be done...) (hell, where could somebody use this for? -excluding hackers!) SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... since your budget or boss will :-( -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Anything not nailed down is a cat toy. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: (OT): Windows Registry
Monday, November 15, 1999, 2:28:53 PM, Roel wrote: well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and maybe even lower...) so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) File-specs can be updated. ;) SL Flat files in a user's home directory. well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the OK, non-flat-files in the user's home directory. :) SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... since your budget or boss will :-( NT costs less, the boss, well, what he don't know won't hurt him. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL File-specs can be updated. ;) well, since MS abandond the ini-file idea, i doubt they will... MS puts everything in the registry... they only support win.ini system.ini for compatibility with older progs drivers... (also a few network-related ini's) all other ini-files are like 'abandond' (at least by MS) SL OK, non-flat-files in the user's home directory. :) oops, didn't think of those :-) you're right :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RUNTIME ERROR 6D at 417A: 32CF: Incompetent user .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[2]: (OT): Windows Registry
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Feh, silly me for thinking that MS would actually do anything in a sane SL manner or even consider the concept of backwards compatibility. :/ unfortunately, you're right :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A diplomat thinks twice before saying nothing. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Steve, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail if you donot do that One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... C only has the MS and OS stuff. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[3]: (OT): Windows Registry
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Roel, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello Steve, SL Those limits are arbitrary. The Microsoft routines obviously have bugs in SL them, don't they? :) Roel well, it's not a real bug, as the ini-file-specification sets size Roel limits to 64k... (remember that these were developped for win 3.x and Roel maybe even lower...) Roel so they just obey the limit that MS has set for ini-files... :-) SL Those "advantages" aren't exclusive to the registry. What has these advantages too? SL Flat files in a user's home directory. Roel well yes, but then you can't use simple acsii-files if you want to Roel store binary data (or even executable strings like you can in the Roel registry) (about the latter one: don't ask me how or even why, but it Roel can be done...) (hell, where could somebody use this for? -excluding Roel hackers!) virus writers Or MS wanting your system to do things they donot want you to know about... SL An NT-Network isn't an advantage. Any IT professional can tell you that SL and as one such professional I can tell you many reasons why NT is the worst SL choice to have a central repository for user files (that is all a "profile" SL is). I'd much rather have Unix with NFS. Roel I'm not so fond of NT either, but sometimes you can't make the call... Roel since your budget or boss will :-( Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello tracer, Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail t if you donot do that use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the occasional defrag scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason) This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... t C only has the MS and OS stuff. same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up running in 15 minutes :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay Alert. Stay Awake. Stay Alive. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
