Glyphs

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I found a web site (batworld.de) with a load of different glyphs for
TB! The problem is that the whole site is German and I can't figure
out what's required to d/l the files. If I click on a download link I
get taken to a page that I can't figure out. Can some kind soul (a)
point me at an English language site with these images on or (b) tell
me what I need to do to d/l the glyphs from this site.

TIA

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glyphs?

[ken green]

Are glyphs no longer supported?  I thought I only had to copy the BMP
file to the TB program directory to get the glyphs I want.  Is that
only for a new install?  I upgraded to 2.10.03 this morning.

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Glyphs

[Lynn]

Hi all -

I dl'd v3, and installed it .. ONE of the filters is not
working, for this list, though all my other lists seem
fine .. I got rid of the virtual folder that was driving
me nuts, and the  folders are now behaving in a
conventional fashion, I think .. at least they aren't
breeding in there as they were before.

So I thought I'd see if there weren't some better glyphs
(from my point of view), and dl'ed some of those, but they
aren't registering.

I put the .bmp file in TheBat! folder, and the high colour
image checkbox is checked in the preferences folder. I
restarted TB.

What have I missed .. ? Are there some instructions in
English somewhere?

tia,

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Glyphs

[Tony Boom]

Hello TBUDL,

  I seem to have misplaced my alternate glyph images.

  Can someone please refresh my memory as to where to obtain them
  from please.


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glyphs

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Bat Folk.

  Where does TB! store its glyph.bmp? Or is
  it not called that?

  I'm trying to find it because I'd like to
  try a replacement.

  Thank you.

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Glyphs

[rich gregory]

PK> Thanks for your reply. I solved this issue. I was using a glyphs. 

I see this new mention of glyphs above, and a while back I think I saw a reference to 
glyphs.bmp (a file I looked for and never found on this PC).  Is the a file that holds 
a bunch of icons that you folks have some use for or control over?




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glyphs

[Peter Meyns]

Hi folks,

does anybody know a source for TB!'s default icons as glyphs.bmp? I once
had them, but they got lost in my last crash...

Or is there another way to get the default icons into my graphics program
for editing?

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Re: Glyphs

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Wednesday, January 7, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I found a web site (batworld.de) with a load of different glyphs for
> TB! The problem is that the whole site is German and I can't figure
> out what's required to d/l the files. If I click on a download link I
> get taken to a page that I can't figure out. Can some kind soul (a)
> point me at an English language site with these images on or (b) tell
> me what I need to do to d/l the glyphs from this site.

Yu must be registered AFAIK. You can try to use www.thebatworld.de or
www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm for many glyphs too.

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Re: Glyphs

[Darrin]

Hi,
On Wednesday at 6:01 AM you wrote:
sec> I found a web site (batworld.de) with a load of different glyphs for
sec> TB! The problem is that the whole site is German and I can't figure
sec> out what's required to d/l the files. If I click on a download link I
sec> get taken to a page that I can't figure out. Can some kind soul (a)
sec> point me at an English language site with these images on or (b) tell
sec> me what I need to do to d/l the glyphs from this site.


There is a free translator site that will translate german to english.
http://plugin.imtranslator.com/
Just paste the text in and translate it. It does a fairly good job.

There is also another good site with glyphs.
http://www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm


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Re: glyphs?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, May 6, 2004, ken green wrote:

> Are glyphs no longer supported?  I thought I only had to copy the BMP
> file to the TB program directory to get the glyphs I want.  Is that
> only for a new install?  I upgraded to 2.10.03 this morning.

file must be named glyphs.bmp, option "High colour images" in "Options
| Preferences" must be turned ON and program must be restarted for
detecting glyphs file.

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Re: glyphs?

[ken green]

Marek Mikus wrote:
file must be named glyphs.bmp, option "High colour images" in "Options
| Preferences" must be turned ON and program must be restarted for
detecting glyphs file.
High color images!  Of course!  Thanks - that was it.

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Re: Glyphs

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Lynn,

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 you wrote in 

L> What have I missed .. ? Are there some instructions in
L> English somewhere?

Have you named the file "glyphs.bmp"?  It will only work with that name.

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Re: Glyphs

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Lynn,

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:42:15 -0700GMT (5-9-2004, 7:42 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RW>> Have you named the file "glyphs.bmp"?  It
RW>> will only work with that name.

L> Didn't change the name. glyphs.bmp ...

Did you restart TB?
Have you got a checkmark at:
  Options -> Preferences -> System -> 'High colour images'

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Re: Glyphs

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was Sat, 4 Sep 2004, at 23:38:06 -0700,
   @  @  when Lynn wrote:


> Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:29:03 PM, you wrote:

RW>> Oh dear. Dunno what to suggest then 'cos
RW>> just putting glyphs.bmp into my
RW>> TB! folder works a treat.

> They're all a bit different I suppose. Thanks anyway.

If the glyphs.bmp is in the folder where your thebat.exe is, and new
icons still doesn't show, then the only problem could be with the .bmp
file. Try to use another one. (I can send you one I use now, if you
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Re: Glyphs

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~( __ _"o   Was Sun, 5 Sep 2004, at 21:57:00 +0530,
   @  @  when Mean Drake wrote:

> Could someone send a glyphs.bmp file offlist. Would like to know its
> layout and try to make a few of my own.

There is one package with three variants of the glyphs, and (some basic)
instructions, here: <http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html>.

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Re: Glyphs

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Tony Boom,

Responding  to  your article on Wednesday, July 26, 2000 at 10:31:07 GMT
+0100 (which was 26/07/2000 16:31 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

TB>   I seem to have misplaced my alternate glyph images.

TB>   Can someone please refresh my memory as to where to obtain them
TB>   from please.

I think, I still have it on ftp://ftp.dutaint.co.id/the_bat/util-option


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Re: Glyphs

[Daniel Hutchinson]

Wednesday, July 26, 2000, 4:31:07 AM, Tony Boom wrote:

TB>   Can someone please refresh my memory as to where to obtain them
TB>   from please.

I believe you're talking about the following site:

http://www.glyphweb.com/graphics.html

HTH.  Hutch




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Re: Glyphs

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Daniel, 

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 at 07:02:03 [GMT -0500], you wrote:
DH> I believe you're talking about the following site:
DH> http://www.glyphweb.com/graphics.html
DH> HTH.  Hutch

No, he's referring to the glyphs for the TB buttons and such.



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Re: Glyphs

[Tony Boom]

This message: 26/07/2000 15:44 GMT.
Hello Leif,

On 26 July 2000 at 23:20:57 GMT +0900 (which was 15:20 where I live)
Leif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed:

LG> No, he's referring to the glyphs for the TB buttons and such.


  Leif is correct but thank you Daniel anyway.

  Many thanks to Syafril, I now have them thank you.


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Hello everyone...

I've been working here and there on my own glyphs.bmp, and have come
to a stopping point. I've edited all the icons I wish to edit for now.
Maybe I'll pick it up again later, but for now I'll release it to
everyone. It is available at:

http://www.premier1.net/~jthomp/tb/glyphs.zip

To use, unzip glyphs.bmp to your TB directory and (re)start TB.

Please read the readme.txt as well.

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Re: glyphs

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, October 4, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

>   Where does TB! store its glyph.bmp? Or is
>   it not called that?

>   I'm trying to find it because I'd like to
>   try a replacement.

You can download it from this location (26kB):
ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/glyphs/tbglyphs_ritlabs_160.zip

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Re: glyphs

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jan,

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:05:07 -0400GMT (5-10-02, 1:05 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JR> Thanks for the link. I guess I wasn't clear. I can't figure out
JR> how to replace the default TB! icon bmp with a new one.

Just place it in the TB-directory, TB will use it in stead of the ones
that are hardcoded in the executable. I believe they're loaded at
start-up, so you need to close and restart TB. (IIRC)

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Re: glyphs

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Hi Jan,

@4-Oct-2002, 19:43 -0400 (00:43 UK time) Jan Rifkinson [JR] in
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JR> ... Any further help would be appreciated.

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html contains a complete
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Re: glyphs

[Luc]

 Good night Jan,
  
It was foretold that on 5-10-2002 @ 21:29:54 GMT-0400 (which was
3:29:54 where I live) Jan Rifkinson spread these wise comments:
  

JR> I've  saved  an  altered TB! glyph file to The Bat! directory with
JR> the  name  glymph.bmp, closed down & re-started TB! w/o luck. So I
JR> must be missing something.

Try saving it as glyphs.bmp

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Re: glyphs

[Allie C Martin]

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote:'

JR> Sorry, typo. My file is actually 'glyphs.bmp' Maybe I need a
JR> re-boot but I don't know why that would be the case.

You need only exit and restart TB!. There's no need to reboot.

JR> The bmp has all the icons used by TB! in one file which I d/l a
JR> long time ago when the discussion on changing TB!'s toolbar
JR> appeared. Where did your glyph.bmp come from? Maybe that's the
JR> problem although, again, I don't know why.

If it's still not working for you then we have to check the obvious.
The first was the file name. The other is if you've looked at the
glyphs themselves. There are a couple that have glyphs almost
identical to TB!'s default. Have you inspected the glyphs to see
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Re: glyphs

[Carsten Thönges]

* Jan Rifkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I've saved an altered TB! glyph file to The
>   Bat! directory with the name glymph.bmp,
>   closed down & re-started TB! w/o luck. So I
>   must be missing something.

 -> Options
  -> Preferences
   -> [x] High colour images ...

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Re: glyphs

[Luc]

 Good afternoon Jan,
  
It was foretold that on 5-10-2002 @ 08:14:17 GMT-0400 (which was
14:14:17 where I live) Jan Rifkinson spread these wise comments:
  

JR> Where  did  your  glyph.bmp  come  from?  Maybe that's the problem
JR> although, again, I don't know why.

A reboot isn't necesarry, just an exit and start up again. My guess
would be that something's wrong with the files you dl'd. Here's where
i got mine:
http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html

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Re: glyphs

[Chris Weaven]

On Saturday, October 5, 2002 10:35 your local time, which was 09:35 my
local time, Pete Milne [PM] wrote;

JR>> I now have new glyphs

PM> How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available for TB!?

I agree!

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Re: glyphs

[Ron Secord]

Hi Chris,

@Saturday, October 05, 2002, 11:33 -0700 (2:33 PM here) Chris Weaven
[CW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Pete Milne:

PM>> How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available
PM>> for TB!?

CW> I agree!

I did a search w/ Google and came up with this link. Bear in mind that
the site is, I believe, Dutch but you can get the glyphs anyway. Have
fun!

http://www.bat.caschy.org/glyphs/index.html

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Re: glyphs

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ron,

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:20:35 -0400GMT (8-10-02, 1:20 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

RS> Bear in mind that the site is, I believe, Dutch

Make that German.

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Re: glyphs

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:20:35 AM, you wrote:


PM>>> How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available
PM>>> for TB!?

RS> http://www.bat.caschy.org/glyphs/index.html

All we need now is a little program were you can load all the glyphs
and compose your own :-)

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SOT: glyphs

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Ron Secord wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> Bear in mind that the site is, I believe, Dutch but you can get the
> glyphs anyway.

I don't intend to correct Ron (the site is German), but I'd like to
get this of my chest:

Even though the Pennsylvania Dutch were originally Germans, Dutch !=
German. What adds the the widespread confusion is that in German the
adjective and the name of the language German is "Deutsch", which most
English speakers pronounce 'dutch' (this probably started the
misnomer for the Pennsylvania Dutch).

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Re: glyphs

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Ron Secord wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> I did a search w/ Google and came up with this link. Bear in mind that
> the site is, I believe, Dutch but you can get the glyphs anyway. Have
> fun!

> http://www.bat.caschy.org/glyphs/index.html

FWIW, my favorite is set #7, it enhances contrasts and thus
facilitates recognizing button and icon meanings.

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Re: glyphs

[Ron Secord]

Hi Roelof,

@Monday, October 07, 2002, 01:39 +0200 (7:39 PM here) Roelof Otten
[RO] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Ron Secord:

RS>> Bear in mind that the site is, I believe, Dutch

RO> Make that German.

LOL, I figured I'd take a shot in the dark

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Re: glyphs

[Ron Secord]

Hi Markus,

@Tuesday, October 08, 2002, 12:54 +0200 (6:54 AM here) Markus Gloede
[MG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

MG> FWIW, my favorite is set #7, it enhances contrasts and thus
MG> facilitates recognizing button and icon meanings.

Actually, I'm using set #7 also, but I changed a couple of the glyphs
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Re: glyphs

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:06:25 PM, you wrote:

RS> Hi Markus,

RS> @Tuesday, October 08, 2002, 12:54 +0200 (6:54 AM here) Markus Gloede
RS> [MG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL:

MG>> FWIW, my favorite is set #7, it enhances contrasts and thus
MG>> facilitates recognizing button and icon meanings.

RS> Actually, I'm using set #7 also, but I changed a couple of the glyphs
RS> to suit my taste.


Ron/ Markus,
If you are borh usinf #7 please tell me what the last symbol is?
(Bottom row far left)

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Re: glyphs

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> If you are borh usinf #7 please tell me what the last symbol is?
> (Bottom row far left)

Far left? That would be "Valid certificate". Or do you mean far right,
something that resembles a pen? My guess is that this stands for the
action "sign" (not sure where it appears).

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Re: glyphs

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 2:21:17 PM, you wrote:

MG> Hi,

MG> Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

>> If you are borh usinf #7 please tell me what the last symbol is?
>> (Bottom row far left)

MG> Far left? That would be "Valid certificate". Or do you mean far right,
MG> something that resembles a pen? My guess is that this stands for the
MG> action "sign" (not sure where it appears).

Hi Markus,
Sorry your right, far right :(
It looks like a USB memory pen.

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Re: glyphs

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Ron,

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 07:06 your local time, which was 04:06 my
local time, Ron Secord [RS] wrote;

MG>> FWIW, my favorite is set #7, it enhances contrasts and thus
MG>> facilitates recognizing button and icon meanings.

I'm using 7 too!

RS> Actually, I'm using set #7 also, but I changed a couple of the glyphs
RS> to suit my taste.

How do you go about changing a select few of the Glyphs?

How does TB! recognise which picture belongs where?

Can I copy and paste certain pictures over from another set?

The reason I ask is because I'd rather a horizontal folder set rather
than the angles ones they are.

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Re: glyphs

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Deborah W wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> They're in The Bat directory, & in Win Explorer they show up fine. But
> however many times I close down TB & restart it, I still have the same
> old glyphs. Any ideas?

Check under Options/Preferences/General, there is one option "use high
color images", perhaps that makes a difference.

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Re: glyphs

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:18:23 PM, you wrote:

DW> They're in The Bat directory, & in Win Explorer they show up fine. But
DW> however many times I close down TB & restart it, I still have the same
DW> old glyphs. Any ideas?


Hi Deborah,
   They must be in the same directory as thebat.exe.
   
   -Go to explorer and The Bat directory.
   -Make sure you can see thebat.exe and glyphs.bmp.
   -Now double click thebat.exe

   If you now see the glymps, you must have an other copy of the bat
   somewhere.

   If not try reinstalling the bat because something is wrong :(
   
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Re: glyphs

[Ron Secord]

Hi Chris,

@Tuesday, October 08, 2002, 07:46 -0700 (10:46 AM here) Chris Weaven
[CW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Ron
Secord:

CW> How do you go about changing a select few of the Glyphs?

I just followed the "Editing TB glyphs" page by Tony Boom at:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html

CW> How does TB! recognise which picture belongs where?
I believe, and I may be wrong here, that the order is hard coded into
TB!

> Can I copy and paste certain pictures over from another set?
Yes you can. Just follow the link above.

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Re: glyphs

[marco]

Hi Deborah,

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:18:23 PM, you wrote:


L>> A reboot isn't necesarry, just an exit and start up again. My guess
L>> would be that something's wrong with the files you dl'd. Here's where


DW> I'm glad it's working for Jan, but it isn't working for me :-(

I have an XP machine with two profiles, both running The Bat!. For one
user the glyph stuff worked, for the other it didn't. So I compared
the settings and found out the following:

To use the icons in glyphs.bmp, you need to set the option "High color
images" (options/preferences -general). After a restart of TB! all the
new cool icons will show up!


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Re: glyphs

[Thomas F.]

Hello Deborah,

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:12:39 +0100 GMT (09/10/02, 16:12 +0700 GMT),
Deborah W wrote:

MG>> Check under Options/Preferences/General, there is one option "use high
MG>> color images", perhaps that makes a difference.

DW> I didn't even have to re-start TB :-)

I tried this back and forth right now. The change takes effect only
when I close and restart TB. Hmmm.

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Re: Glyphs

[MAU]

Hello rich,

> I see this new mention of glyphs above, and a while back I think I saw a
> reference to glyphs.bmp (a file I looked for and never found on this PC).  Is the
> a file that holds a bunch of icons that you folks have some use for or control
> over?

TB includes default glyphs (icons) in the executable file. If you copy a
glyphs.bmp file to TB's install directory, TB will use these icons
instead. You can find and download a good number of different options
here

http://batworld.de/glyphs/index.html

Even if you don't read German, just select glyph groups on the left
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Re: Glyphs

[Thomas Martin]

Hello rich,

on Thursday, 16. October 2003, at 10:48:13 [GMT -0400] you wrote:

> I see this new mention of glyphs above, and a while back I think I saw
> a reference to glyphs.bmp (a file I looked for and never found on this
> PC).  Is the a file that holds a bunch of icons that you folks have some
> use for or control over?

The standard Layout which has TheBat! is integrated in the program. If you
want to change the layout (icons) you have to copy a "glyphs.bmb" file in to
the root folder of TheBat!. TB! takes this file for the layout. There are
several Glyphs. Sorry i don't have a English spoken page for you only this on
in German:

http://www.batworld.de/glyphs/index.html

There are 48 different Glyps for downloading.


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Re: Glyphs

[Allie Martin]

Mau, [M] wrote:

M> You can find and download a good number of different options here

M> http://batworld.de/glyphs/index.html

M> Even if you don't read German, just select glyph groups on the left
M> menu and you will see them.

Hmmm. I'm impressed. I was longing for the day when such a page would
exist. How long has it been around. :)

Some need to incorporate v2.01 with regards to checkmarks being added
to the message flag icons for PGP/MIME and S/MIME signed messages.

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Re: Glyphs

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Allie,

Thursday, October 16, 2003, 4:39:23 PM, you wrote:
AM> Hmmm. I'm impressed. I was longing for the day when such a page
AM> would exist. How long has it been around. :)

Not sure of exact dates, but its been around quite a while IIRC.




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Re: Glyphs

[Thomas Martin]

Hello Leif,

on Thursday, 16. October 2003, at 16:42:10 [GMT -0600] you wrote:

AM>> Hmmm. I'm impressed. I was longing for the day when such a page
AM>> would exist. How long has it been around. :)

> Not sure of exact dates, but its been around quite a while IIRC.

IMHO since about 2 years the page from Caschy exists. But not all Glyph are
complete. In most of them the "cross" icon for the quarantine folder is
missing. (line 1 , symbol 13)

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Re: Glyphs

[MAU]

Hello Allie,

> Hmmm. I'm impressed. I was longing for the day when such a page would
> exist. How long has it been around. :)

I've known about it for almost 2 years now, but I don't really know how
long it has been around.

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Winter glyphs

[Andrew Perevodchik]

Hello!

Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)
http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/

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Changing glyphs

[Browning, Karl]

I have read the page "Editing The Bat! Glyphs" and am having a little
trouble. I have a copy of TB! 1.53d that I am testing (likely to register
soon), but there is no glyphs.bmp. I created my own, but I only wanted to
change a few and all of the images disappeared. After removing my file,
everything is back to normal.

The question is: where can I get a copy of glyphs.bmp that has the standard
glyphs in it?

Thanks much for any and all help,
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Re: glyphs

[David van Zuijlekom]

Hello Peter,

On Friday, May 17, 2002 at 21:51:18 +0200, you wrote concerning
'glyphs':
...
> does anybody know a source for TB!'s default icons as glyphs.bmp?

If you rename glyphs.bmp or delete the file you will get the default
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Re: glyphs

[Michael L. Cusac]

On Friday, May 17, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote to TBUDL:


> Or is there another way to get the default icons into my graphics program
> for editing?


Resource  Hacker,  maybe?  I don't use it, so I can't personally vouch
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Re: glyphs

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Michael,

on Fri, 17 May 2002 23:13:15 GMTGMT (which was 18.05.02, 01:13 +0200GMT
where I live), you wrote in
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>> ... get the default icons into my graphics program for editing?

MLC> Resource  Hacker,  maybe?  I don't use it, so I can't personally vouch
MLC> for it, but it has a good rep.

Thank you, a great tool which let me do exactly what I wanted (create my
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TB glyphs

[Lija]

Hello TBUDL subscribers,

Did anyone here create his own glyphs for TB?
If so, could you send that file to me privately, just for my own amusement?
Then, I must copy it to TB folder and correct name of that file must be
GLYPH.BMP, right?

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Re[2]: Glyphs

[Lynn]

Saturday, September 4, 2004, 10:36:42 PM, you wrote:

RW> Have you named the file "glyphs.bmp"?  It
RW> will only work with that name.

Didn't change the name. glyphs.bmp ...

??

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Re[3]: Glyphs

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello Lynn,

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 you wrote in 

L> Didn't change the name. glyphs.bmp ...

Oh dear. Dunno what to suggest then 'cos just putting glyphs.bmp into my
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Re[4]: Glyphs

[Lynn]

Saturday, September 4, 2004, 11:29:03 PM, you wrote:

RW> Oh dear. Dunno what to suggest then 'cos
RW> just putting glyphs.bmp into my
RW> TB! folder works a treat.

They're all a bit different I suppose. Thanks anyway.



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Re[2]: Glyphs

[Lynn]

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 1:43:12 AM, you wrote:

L>> Didn't change the name. glyphs.bmp ...

Oh rats! found it ... I was half asleep last night
probably ... the filename had a number attached to it.

Thanks!

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Re[2]: Glyphs

[Lynn]

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 2:43:53 AM, you wrote:

MM> If the glyphs.bmp is in the folder where your
MM> thebat.exe is, and new
MM> icons still doesn't show, then the only problem
MM> could be with the .bmp
MM> file. Try to use another one. (I can send you one I
MM> use now, if you
MM> wish.)

Got it working now .. it had a number attached to it, but
I really could have sworn that when I looked at it last
night it just said 'glyphs.bmp' .. anyhow, it's fixed.

That's what happens when you have been hammering the same thing
over and over and it's 4 hours past bedtime!

Thanks!

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Re[3]: Glyphs

[Mean Drake]

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 9:31:19 PM, you wrote:


> Sunday, September 5, 2004, 1:43:12 AM, you wrote:

L>>> Didn't change the name. glyphs.bmp ...

> Oh rats! found it ... I was half asleep last night
> probably ... the filename had a number attached to it.

> Thanks!

> Lynn


Could someone send a glyphs.bmp file offlist. Would like to know its
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Re[4]: Glyphs

[Mark Partous]

Hello Mean,

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 6:27:00 PM, you wrote:

MD> Could someone send a glyphs.bmp file offlist. Would like to know its
MD> layout and try to make a few of my own.

You can find "a few" here:
http://bat-mail.de.vu/tools.html
http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticles&secid=10
http://www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm

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Re[5]: Glyphs

[Mean Drake]

Sunday, September 5, 2004, 10:48:24 PM, you wrote:


> Hello Mean,

> Sunday, September 5, 2004, 6:27:00 PM, you wrote:

MD>> Could someone send a glyphs.bmp file offlist. Would like to know its
MD>> layout and try to make a few of my own.

> You can find "a few" here:
> http://bat-mail.de.vu/tools.html
> http://www.thebatworld.de/system/sections/index.php?op=listarticles&secid=10
> http://www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm

Got themthanks a lotBack to Lurk mode!!!


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glyphs documentation request

[Jason Thompson]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello everyone...

The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up
with some glyphs of my own.

I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie.
logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out the
outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured I'm
not really sure)

Does anyone know where I can find information on how TB uses the glyph
file? TB help file and Marck's TB FAQ weren't helpful. (pssst Marck,
this would be a nice addition to the FAQ :-)

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Version: PGP 6.5.8

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Re: glyphs release

[Marco Qualizza]

> Hello everyone...

> I've been working here and there on my own glyphs.bmp, and have come
> to a stopping point. I've edited all the icons I wish to edit for now.
> Maybe I'll pick it up again later, but for now I'll release it to
> everyone. It is available at:

> http://www.premier1.net/~jthomp/tb/glyphs.zip

> To use, unzip glyphs.bmp to your TB directory and (re)start TB.

Very nice work.  (I thought I was the only one freaky enough to like
purple and green mixed?! :-) ) I'm going to have to check out what
Tony's look like too.

*grin* I can see what you mean by the editor icons...  They're...
interesting. :-)  (Ok, I don't like them. :-p  I find that they're too
distracting... :-) )

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Glyphs file folder

[Ciprian Trofin]

A friend has installed TB! v2.01.3 on both a desktop and a notebook.
However, the buttons (toolbars) look different on these computers. I think
a "glyphs.bmp" file is to blame, but I cannot find it in TB! instalation
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Glyphs for v3.5

[Mike Dillinger]

Hello,

I had a glyphs file I was using in 3.0.1.33 that I really liked and
would like to use for v3.5.  Is there a how-to or some other
documentation that shows you how to set up glyphs for v3.5?  In case it
matters, it was glyphs_tb3001.zip for The Bat! World web site.

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Re[2]: glyphs

[Pete Milne]

Replying to your message of Friday, October 4, 2002, 7:50:01 PM:

L> Try saving it as glyphs.bmp

Mine is glyphs.bmp, so that should be correct.

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Re[2]: glyphs

[Pete Milne]

Replying to your message of Saturday, October 5, 2002, 10:20:46 AM:

JR> I now have new glyphs

How about a list of all the possible glyphs that are available for TB!?

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Re[2]: glyphs

[Deborah W]

On Saturday, October 5, 2002, 4:48:26 PM, Luc wrote:

L> A reboot isn't necesarry, just an exit and start up again. My guess
L> would be that something's wrong with the files you dl'd. Here's where
L> i got mine:
L> http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html

L> Maybe try them and it works.


I'm glad it's working for Jan, but it isn't working for me :-(

I've tried glyphs downloaded from the URL above, as well as different
sets from the URL Markus suggested earlier today. No luck.

They're in The Bat directory, & in Win Explorer they show up fine. But
however many times I close down TB & restart it, I still have the same
old glyphs. Any ideas?

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Re: SOT: glyphs

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Markus!

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002 at 12:40:39 PM you wrote:

> What adds the the widespread confusion is that in German the
> adjective and the name of the language German is "Deutsch", which
> most English speakers pronounce 'dutch' (this probably started the
> misnomer for the Pennsylvania Dutch).

Not just "probably", "Dutch" is a corruption of "deutsch". For all of
those needing a reference source, look for Hugh Brogan's standard
*Penguin History of the United States of America*.




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Re[2]: glyphs

[Mark Wieder]

I'm also now using #7, although I cut-and-pasted the mailbox icons and
the little black bat thingies from #11. Note that at least one of the
files (#11) has the wrong filename and needs renaming before it will
work.

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Re[2]: glyphs

[Deborah W]

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 4:30:43 PM, Gerard wrote:

G> Hi Deborah,
G>They must be in the same directory as thebat.exe.

Yep, they are.

G>-Go to explorer and The Bat directory.
G>-Make sure you can see thebat.exe and glyphs.bmp.
G>-Now double click thebat.exe

OK, I did that.

G>If you now see the glymps, you must have an other copy of the bat
G>somewhere.

Still can't see them :-(

G>If not try reinstalling the bat because something is wrong :(

:-(((

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Re[2]: glyphs

[Deborah W]

On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 4:36:11 PM, Markus Gloede wrote:

MG> Check under Options/Preferences/General, there is one option "use high
MG> color images", perhaps that makes a difference.


Ah-HAH! It *works* :-

I didn't even have to re-start TB :-)
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Re[2]: glyphs

[Deborah W]

On Thursday, October 10, 2002, 4:57:02 PM, Thomas F. wrote:

DW>> I didn't even have to re-start TB :-)

TF> I tried this back and forth right now. The change takes effect only
TF> when I close and restart TB. Hmmm.

I already had the new glyphs.bmp in the TB folder, but wasn't seeing
them. When I switched to high-colour images, I could see them without
closing & restarting TB.

To change the glyphs though, I have to close & restart. IOW, the "view
high-colour images" setting takes effect without a restart, but a new
glyphs.bmp doesn't.

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Re: Glyphs [PGP]

[John Morse]

Hi The_Bat! Users,

Thursday, October 16, 2003, 5:39:23 PM, you wrote:

AM>  -= allie_M =- | List Moderator
AM> PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html

Allie, are you a Dude?
I just checked out your pgp keys and the picture it showed was a man.
also, how do you add a picture to your pgp key?
I also uploaded them to the server, but how do people know where it
is?
for that matter how do I know where it is to tell someone, it just
said that it was uploaded successfully, but nothing else.
Should I put them on my server for people to download?

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Re: Glyphs [PGP]

[Leif Gregory]

Hello John,

Thursday, October 16, 2003, 4:51:33 PM, you wrote:
JM> Allie, are you a Dude?


You know Marck and I have selfsame wondered that very thought for
many a year! 

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Re: Glyphs [PGP]

[Allie Martin]

John Morse, [JM] wrote:

JM> Allie, are you a Dude?

Yupe! I am the 'Dude' you see in the pic and also here:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/rogues.html

You'll see a lot of other dudes on this list there. :)

JM> I just checked out your pgp keys and the picture it showed was a
JM> man.

Yeah, I'm a man.

JM> also, how do you add a picture to your pgp key?

If you're using PGP, then go into PGPKeys, right click your key and in
the menu, go to 'add' and select 'photo'.

JM> I also uploaded them to the server, but how do people know where it
JM> is?

We check the same server you uploaded to. Most servers are
interconnected so uploading it to one will have it sent to the others. A
good server to upload to is pgp.surfnet.nl .

JM> for that matter how do I know where it is to tell someone,

You could just state that it's on the particular server you uploaded it
to or provide a link to a download as I do or send it via e-mail.

JM> it just said that it was uploaded successfully, but nothing else.

That's ok.

JM> Should I put them on my server for people to download?

Yes. Your public key should be made as available as possible for others
to have and use to verify your signed messages and also for encrypting
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Re: Glyphs [PGP]

[Allie Martin]

John Morse, [JM] wrote:

JM> Should I put them on my server for people to download?

By the way John, I forgot to mention.

If you really become interested in PGP, then you'll find that you have a
lot of questions about using PGP and PGP security in general rather than
issues specific to TB! working with PGP. In that case, I highly
recommend joining PGP-Basics. It's a great list with a bunch of really
helpful users. You can ask *anything* about PGP there and it will be
answered. :) They also offer to check your signatures and help you get
up to speed with encrypted messaging.

You can join here:

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Glyphs won't change

[Gene Brown]

Odd little problem with my glyphs.  When I upgraded to 2.0 the glyphs
didn't change, even though the splash logo did.  I moved up to 2.01,
but still no change.  I didn't think much of it until there was a
discussion here of alternate glyph collections and I thought I might
try something different.

Well, even loading in a new glyphs bmp file didn't change anything!  I
still have the old 1.xx glyphs.  This is a trivial issue, but now it
has me wondering.  How is this even possible?  Aren't the glyphs
integral to the exe file?

We have two computers networked here at home, and each has TB
installed.  The same upgrade files were used on both computers--one
changed, the other didn't.  How can this be?
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Re: Winter glyphs

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sunday, December 7, 2003, 6:24 AM, you wrote:


AP> Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)
AP> http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/

I'm hesitant to install those, the screenshot was not in English..



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Re: Winter glyphs

[Tony Boom]

On Sunday 07 December 2003 13:12, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> I'm hesitant to install those, the screenshot was not in English..

But the images were :)

All you do is put them in your main TB folder and reboot The Bat. If you don't 
like them, delete them and reboot TB again. They won't in any way shape or 
form hurt your Bat.

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Re: Winter glyphs

[Andrew Perevodchik]

Hello!

AP>> Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)
AP>> http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/

PC> I'm hesitant to install those, the screenshot was not in English..

No problem... updated to english :)

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Re: Winter glyphs

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sunday, December 7, 2003, 11:12 AM, you wrote:

AP> Hello!

AP>>> Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)
AP>>> http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/

PC>> I'm hesitant to install those, the screenshot was not in English..

AP> No problem... updated to english :)

wow! that was fast! although looking at it, I see message, edit, search,
then utilities. Looks to me like there is another icon in the middle,
"save" maybe??



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Re: Winter glyphs

[Andrew Perevodchik]

Hello!

AP>> No problem... updated to english :)

PC> wow! that was fast! although looking at it, I see message, edit, search,
PC> then utilities. Looks to me like there is another icon in the middle,
PC> "save" maybe??

You mean fourth? With floppy disk? Yep, save. When I turn glyphs off I
see the same. In fact I have TB v2.02 CE RC2...

Cool, I've found my old snowy glyphs for v1.* :) Uploaded there too...

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Re: Winter glyphs

[Darrin]

Hi,
On Sunday at 3:24 AM you wrote:

AP> Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)


Thanks :) nice lil christmas touch.

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Re: Winter glyphs

[mm Meister]

Hello Andrew,

Sunday, December 7, 2003, 6:24:28 AM, you wrote:

AP> Here we go... for those who like Bat v2 original glyphs... snowy ones :)
AP> http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/winterglyphs/

 Thank you! They installed very easily and even though I'm still on
 version 1.62r, work well giving a nice seasonal feel to The Bat!

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Re: Changing glyphs

[Thomas F]

Hello Karl,

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:20:21 -0400 GMT (12/07/01, 22:20 +0800 GMT),
Browning, Karl wrote:

BK> The question is: where can I get a copy of glyphs.bmp that has the standard
BK> glyphs in it?

The standard glyphs are in the exe. Only if you have a glyphs.bmp file
in your TB directory, will the standard as per exe be overridden.

If you want to create your own, it is a good idea to get one of the
glyphs file around, and modify that one. The position and size of each
glyph is important for TB to know where to use it.

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RE: Changing glyphs

[Browning, Karl]

From: Browning, Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
> The question is: where can I get a copy of glyphs.bmp that 
> has the standard
> glyphs in it?

I apologize for this message. After checking the tbot webpage, I found the
file I was looking for in the files sections.

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Re[2]: glyphs

[William Moore]

Hello Michael

Thank you for your email dated Saturday, May 18, 2002, 12:13:15 AM, in which you wrote:

MLC> On Friday, May 17, 2002, Peter Meyns wrote to TBUDL:

>> Or is there another way to get the default icons into my graphics program
>> for editing?

Try this
http://www.zsoftware.de/iconxtractor_e.htm

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Glyphs for TB

[Mandara]

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Aloha!

Hello again after a certain pause. I hope everything is still OK and
all are alive and well.

A while ago there was a word about Bat's glyphs here. They recommended
me to see Tony Boom's article at:
 in this regard. Now we have
another article of how to make own glyphs and/or how to use glyphs
already modified by other users, in two languages:
<http://tronogi.tripod.com/ostalo.html>. A small archive of such a
glyphs can be downloaded too. Also there is an idea of making sort of
glyphs "gallery" and enthusiasts are welcomed, if any.


I don't know if is possible, for those who can't receive mail from
tbudl for a while, using a similar address as this one for digest mode
is? Would be easier just to switch to "nomail mode" instead
un-subscribing.


Be happy,

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Re: glyphs documentation request

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Hi Jason,

On 02 October 2000 at 23:50:12 GMT -0700 (which was 07:50 where I
live) Jason Thompson wrote and made these points on the subject
of "glyphs documentation request":

JT> Does anyone know where I can find information on how TB uses the glyph
JT> file? TB help file and Marck's TB FAQ weren't helpful. (pssst Marck,
JT> this would be a nice addition to the FAQ :-)

(okay - when the answer comes up I'll paste it in there!)

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Re: glyphs documentation request

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On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:50:12 -0700, Jason Thompson wrote:

JT> The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up
JT> with some glyphs of my own.

JT> I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie.
JT> logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out
JT> the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured
JT> I'm not really sure)

 I should have read on before writing one of my earlier
messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified
any glyph files. I suggest forwarding your query to Ritlabs support.

I'll make some enquires myself and get back to you when I've struck
gold. :-)

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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello A . Curtis Martin,

Responding  to  your  article  on  Mon, 2 Oct 2000 at 05:59:49 GMT -0500
(which was 02/10/2000 17:59 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

JT>> The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up
JT>> with some glyphs of my own.

JT>> I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie.
JT>> logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out
JT>> the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured
JT>> I'm not really sure)

ACM>  I should have read on before writing one of my earlier
ACM> messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified
ACM> any glyph files. I suggest forwarding your query to Ritlabs support.

I still have the collection on ftp://ftp.dutaint.co.id/the_bat/util-option/
classic.zip --- from Max
glyphs.bmp --- from Stefan
new_glyphs.bmp --- from Marek Mikus
awglyphs.bmp --- from Christopher J. Trybowski


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Created : Monday, October 02, 2000, 20:46:42 GMT +0700

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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Tony Boom]

This message: 02/10/2000 22:20 GMT.

Hello A,


  A reminder of what A ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
  02 October 2000 at 05:59:49 GMT -0500

ACM> I should have read on before writing one of my earlier
ACM> messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified
ACM> any glyph files.


  It's a doddle. All I do is cut the ones I want out from the other
  applications and then paste them in the relevant place in the
  glyphs.bmp.

  I use Paint shop Pro and grab the images from the screen grab option.
  As for the transparency, it's just a matter of erasing the background
  of the pasted image and making it the same colour (Grey) of the
  original bmp.

  Perhaps I could create a step by step how-to if anyone is interested ??

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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Jason Thompson]

Hello Tony...

Yes, a how-to would be great if you don't mind. Thanks.

I've already begun making my own glyphs.bmp from stratch (except for a
little bit of help from the Wingdings font ;-) and transparencies have so far
behaved exactly like you said...Except for one icon. I re-created the toolbar
'create new message' icon, and upon restarting TB I found that the icon had
an incorrect transparency value. Turns out the trans. color was the pixel
in the very lower-left corner of the icon. I changed that one pixel to the
usual gray (r192,b192,g192 if I remember correctly) and the transparency
worked fine again. So I suppose that pixel is read in as the transparent value. A
good thing to know.

I'll be sure to post my glyphs when I'm done for anyone who wants to check
it out.

A suggestion to you programmers out there who know .bmp file format: How
about a utility to easily import graphics to create a custom glpyhs.bmp?

My apologies for posting without the usual PGP signing and TB signature.
I'm writing from work (on a Mac--bah!) using the GMX web interface... And
feeling naked without my usual software setup. ;-)

Jason Thompson
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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Jason,

On 03 October 2000 at 02:50:24 GMT +0200 (MEST) (which was 01:50 where I
live) Jason Thompson wrote and made these points on the subject
of "glyphs documentation request":

JT> Yes, a how-to would be great if you don't mind. Thanks.

If you would like to send me a copy with any graphical examples, I
will include it in the TB FAQ web site if you like.

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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Tony Boom]

This message: 03/10/2000 21:28 GMT.

Hello Marck,


  A reminder of what Marck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
  03 October 2000 at 10:26:04 GMT +0100

MDP> If you would like to send me a copy with any graphical examples, I
MDP> will include it in the TB FAQ web site if you like.


  In that case I'll compose it in html format. Not too sure how long it
  will take but I'll get to straight away.

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Re: glyphs documentation request

[Jason Thompson]

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Hello Charlie and everyone else...

CTc> would I be correct in thinking that this thread is referring to
CTc> the editing of graphic images used within TB?

Hmmm...Depends on what you're thinking specifically.

Glyphs can change the icons in TB, yes.
Glyphs can not "skin" TB or change its startup logo.

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