Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Sue Heim wrote: BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. ** And it can apply to the employer's needs but even then they aren't likely to pay for it. My sister has a Master's in LA. She works for the Dept. of Transportation (Highways) _as_ a landscape architect but had to obtain the degree on her own nickel in order to qualify for the transfer into the job. I'm looking now at online options for a master's in technical communications for myself. Just to have it in case some day I want to hang out my consultancy shingle. Dori Green __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Hi all, OK, I'll weigh in here with a slightly different perspective. I was 42 when I decided a major career change had to be in my future. After getting some professional career counseling, I chose to go into technical communication. There was an excellent master's program in technical communication, through the English Department at a local university, and I made the decision to go for it. Two years later, I came out of the program with the master's degree and a job before I even graduated. (I also got on-the-job experience as a student by doing an internship.) I know for a fact that the degree was a key factor in winning that first full-time job. I *don't* know for a fact but strongly suspect that it has been a major contributing factor in at least one other position I have held over the years. And I also believe that it has allowed me to obtain a higher salary than I would have otherwise gotten (though that was not a particularly strong factor in my decision to get the degree). Am I a better writer and technical communicator than I would have been without the degree? No doubt about it. Am I in a better position because of it than I would be without it? Probably. Has it given me a perspective and understanding of the profession I would not otherwise have? Absolutely. Would I have gone for the degree if I were already working in the field of technical communication? I doubt it, but I can't say for certain. I certainly wouldn't have done it *just* for the money. There are other, more intangible benefits, to having the degree; but those benefits definitely do translate, I think and hope, into my being a better technical communication professional than I would have otherwise been. Sorry for the length. One of my major weaknesses as a TCr. Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? (Apologies to both Sean and the group if this appears twice, but I got a strange error when trying to send earlier.) If that's how your boss feels, don't list it as a personal development goal or expect to get approval to use the company's money in whole or in part for graduate education. If attaining a graduate degree is really important to you personally, pay the tuition and fees yourself and negotiate the necessary terms (scheduling flexibility, etc.) with your existing employer. (I'm planning to start an executive MBA program next year. I know the personal return on investment that I expect to get from doing a graduate program, and what the business case is for me paying for it myself. :-) My employer has no tuition reimbursement policy, but has stated a willingness to work with me in terms of scheduling.) - bc -- Barry Campbell -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://campbell-online.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Right. -Original Message- snip If that's how your boss feels, don't list it as a personal development goal or expect to get approval to use the company's money in whole or in part for graduate education. snip Good luck! Sounds like fun. (I'm planning to start an executive MBA program next year. I know the personal return on investment that I expect to get from doing a graduate program, and what the business case is for me paying for it myself. :-) My employer has no tuition reimbursement policy, but has stated a willingness to work with me in terms of scheduling.) Cheers, Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review. Last year, I put on there getting more familiar with our product line and becoming an SME in some areas, and I'm doing that. But I do that anyway. Slots in company training courses on our product were given to folks other than me this year, because I already have a good base and the other folks are newer. So, company training is not something I have ready access to. And, I learn our product anyway. And, moreover, I want new things in my self review, not the same ones every year. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
From pure business logic, unless they have a need to brag to customers about the number of MA/PhDs they hire, why would they want to have to pay higher salaries? --- Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review. Last year, I put on there getting more familiar with our product line and becoming an SME in some areas, and I'm doing that. But I do that anyway. Slots in company training courses on our product were given to folks other than me this year, because I already have a good base and the other folks are newer. So, company training is not something I have ready access to. And, I learn our product anyway. And, moreover, I want new things in my self review, not the same ones every year. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com User Interface design blog http://user-advocacy.blogspot.com/ Code::Design::UI::Consulting http://www.dionysius.com/ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
It sounds like *you're* the one who has your company's best interests at heart. Your continuing education isn't a perk, it's an investment. Still, you might want to post this kind of thing anonymously next time... -Original Message- From: Brierley, Sean Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:13 PM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews... This message contains confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing, copying, electronic storing or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please notify us, by replying to the sender, and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Hi Sean, Is the masters degree that you're pursuing relevant to your job? Donna - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Great question! (I was waiting for it.) Outlining the degree and graduate coursework was not part of my self evaluation. So my boss doesn't know that. So, the opinion that getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews is a sweeping opinion that is not limited by the object of the degree or coursework. And, honestly, I haven't decided what. I want to support my career at my current employer, and I need the four-year school to be geographically convenient, but I am not sure beyond that. Offhand, I'd say with a BA in English and a 15-year history of technical writing, a Masters in English would be easiest. Do I have things to learn there and can my employer benefit from them? Secondly, I have coursework in programming. We do software, can graduate coursework in programming, networks, and such fit into a masters degree in English? Or, am I close enough to a technical degree? How about an educational bent? What if I took coursework related to educating, would my writing and my employer benefit? How about if I pursued a management degree? That's the list in my head, anyway. I was really waiting for feedback from my employer before delving into this. What would you do and why? Thoughts? Cheers, Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jones, Donna Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:00 PM To: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit Hi Sean, Is the masters degree that you're pursuing relevant to your job? DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
What would a graduate degree provide to your employer, in tangible benefits? Besides personal development, I mean. I can kinda understand where they are coming from. A graduate degree is way different than a BA or BS. What type of advantage would having the advanced degree give you in order to do your job better? Are there positions in your department where having a graduate degree would be a requirement, thereby allowing for promotional opps? Wouldn't specialized training and/or classes/conferences provide better benefit to your employer? Just playin' devil's advocate here! :) ...sue On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review. Last year, I put on there getting more familiar with our product line and becoming an SME in some areas, and I'm doing that. But I do that anyway. Slots in company training courses on our product were given to folks other than me this year, because I already have a good base and the other folks are newer. So, company training is not something I have ready access to. And, I learn our product anyway. And, moreover, I want new things in my self review, not the same ones every year. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Getting an advanced degree doesn't support the company's goals, yet they'll pay people who have them more to do the same work. The message I get from this is that the company pays more for advanced degrees because qualified candidates who have them won't work for less, doesn't want to have to pay you more if you get an advanced degree and figures that if you get one you'll leave them for someone who will pay you more. Gene Kim-Eng - Original Message - From: Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Brierley, Sean wrote: At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. That's ludicrous. How can *learning* be an activity that is not in support of company goals? That reminds me of the signs I saw once, Just say NO to the library when residents were facing a very small tax increase to fund a community library. Dana *** Dana Worley Software Product Manager/Manager, Software Support Group Campbell Scientific, Inc. Microsoft MVP, Windows Help __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Fair enough. Why hire PhDs and MA/MSes then, if a BA gets it done? Or, is hiring PhDs and MA/MSes fresh, with no experience in the company, better than growing an employee from a BA to an MA/MS/PhD? Would graduate coursework in education, language, networks, computing, management, help an employee be a better asset to a company and grow within the company? Or, is it better to hire those who have this stuff coming in? I am looking for thoughts from the group. Cheers, Sean From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:13 PM To: Brierley, Sean Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit What would a graduate degree provide to your employer, in tangible benefits? Besides personal development, I mean. I can kinda understand where they are coming from. A graduate degree is way different than a BA or BS. What type of advantage would having the advanced degree give you in order to do your job better? Are there positions in your department where having a graduate degree would be a requirement, thereby allowing for promotional opps? Wouldn't specialized training and/or classes/conferences provide better benefit to your employer? Just playin' devil's advocate here! :) ...sue On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review. Last year, I put on there getting more familiar with our product line and becoming an SME in some areas, and I'm doing that. But I do that anyway. Slots in company training courses on our product were given to folks other than me this year, because I already have a good base and the other folks are newer. So, company training is not something I have ready access to. And, I learn our product anyway. And, moreover, I want new things in my self review, not the same ones every year. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Well, you say all of that. But the statement was that getting a masters degree does not benefit the company. That's it. The statement did not include a discussion of MIS degree versus English Lit. versus Landscaping. Would a masters in MIS including coursework in networking benefit a tech writer with a BA in English writing documentation for a networking and telephony company focused on private voice networks and voice-over IP? Could a masters in English include such coursework? Would the documentation benefit from a graduate-level understanding of and formal training in education? These are my thoughts. Cheers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:20 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit the company. It does benefit the employee. Learning, by itself, incorporates a pretty broad spectrum, yes? What benefit would a Masters in English Lit provide a computer software company? What benefit would a Masters in Computer Networking provide a company who creates standalone games (such as Solitaire)? There would have to be a real advantage to an employer. Pursuing a graduate degree on one's own would probably be a viable option. I dunno if it would help, but it would provide a sense of self-satisfaction. DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
I thought he was trying to get a degree in soccer ball usability and design. ;) On 6/12/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Sue Heim wrote: It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit the company. It does benefit the employee. Of course, but I know Sean well enough to assume he's not going for a degree in basket-weaving (or landscape architecture ;). If it's on his evaluation as a goal, then he felt it was an activity that supported the company's goals. There's also the argument that pursuit of a degree in itself helps one to be a better thinker, better writer, better problem solver, etc. I've always been surprised how one skill can cross over to something entirely different that you would never expect. Dana *** Dana Worley Software Product Manager/Manager, Software Support Group Campbell Scientific, Inc. Microsoft MVP, Windows Help __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com -- Wade Courtney North San Diego County Yahoo: wcourtne http://blog.stinkingbadges.org http://www.frappr.com/elpicoso http://www.myspace.com/elpicoso http://www.linkedin.com/in/wadecourtney Persian Officer: Fools! Our arrows will blot out the sun. Stelios: Then we will fight in the shade! __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
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BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. Not a Masters, though! :) So there Pfftt! BIG grin ...sue On 6/12/07, Dana Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 12, 2007, Sue Heim wrote: It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit the company. It does benefit the employee. Of course, but I know Sean well enough to assume he's not going for a degree in basket-weaving (or landscape architecture ;). If it's on his evaluation as a goal, then he felt it was an activity that supported the company's goals. There's also the argument that pursuit of a degree in itself helps one to be a better thinker, better writer, better problem solver, etc. I've always been surprised how one skill can cross over to something entirely different that you would never expect. Dana *** Dana Worley Software Product Manager/Manager, Software Support Group Campbell Scientific, Inc. Microsoft MVP, Windows Help __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
Yes; I don't know (but doubt it); and yes. --- Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a masters in MIS including coursework in networking benefit a tech writer with a BA in English writing documentation for a networking and telephony company focused on private voice networks and voice-over IP? Could a masters in English include such coursework? Would the documentation benefit from a graduate-level understanding of and formal training in education? These are my thoughts. Cheers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:20 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit It depends on what the learning is. To obtain a graduate degree just for the sake of it does not necessarily benefit the company. It does benefit the employee. Learning, by itself, incorporates a pretty broad spectrum, yes? What benefit would a Masters in English Lit provide a computer software company? What benefit would a Masters in Computer Networking provide a company who creates standalone games (such as Solitaire)? There would have to be a real advantage to an employer. Pursuing a graduate degree on one's own would probably be a viable option. I dunno if it would help, but it would provide a sense of self-satisfaction. DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com User Interface design blog http://user-advocacy.blogspot.com/ Code::Design::UI::Consulting http://www.dionysius.com/ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
LOL! Nah, am teaching that course. grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wade Courtney Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:40 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit I thought he was trying to get a degree in soccer ball usability and design. ;) DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
I would do so just so I could live off my millions and putter around in the back yard. Cheers, Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:44 PM To: Dana Worley Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit BTW, I do have a degree in Landscape Archicture. Not a Masters, though! :) So there Pfftt! BIG grin DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis of information in this e-mail.E-mail messages may contain computer viruses or other defects, may not be accurately replicated on other systems, or may be intercepted, deleted or interfered with without the knowledge of the sender or the intended recipient. If you are not comfortable with the risks associated with e-mail messages, you may decide not to use e-mail to communicate with IPC. IPC reserves the right, to the extent and under circumstances permitted by applicable law, to retain, monitor and intercept e-mail messages to and from its systems. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
My own approach to continuing education is that it needs to be something I want to expand myself. What I'm getting from what you wrote is that you don't have a definite direction in mind. You have a successful career in technical writing; chances are good you're making a darned good salary. What new horizons do you see for yourself in, say, five years after having achieved a Masters degree? Do you want to change careers? Do you want to advance within your company and if so, does that require a move away from technical writing (in many companies, there's no career path for technical writers other than to become the manager of technical writers) into marketing, development or project management? If you want to advance within your company, whose job do you want? And if that's the case, do you think there's a realistic possibility that a) the person currently in that position will either leave or get promoted at the right time for you to step in to the position AND b) that if you've timed things correctly, you, with your freshly minted graduate degree, will be the logical choice for the company to fill that position? Or do you see the company growing such that when you get that degree there'll be an appropriate opportunity commensurate with your experience and expanded knowledge AND something that would be gratifying to you? I've been extremely fortunate with my lowly pair of Associate degrees to have worked as a technical writer for 20 years now and to have acquired the skills and experience to command a pretty good price in the marketplace. However, I've been doing contract work for most of the last ten years (I've only had one employee position in the last ten years and that lasted six months until a senior VP walked into our remote corporate office and announce that the office was being closed), thus I've been reasonably insulated from corporate life. I'm also fortunate that I love being a technical writer and don't have any desire to move into other aspects of corporate life. One small benefit to being a contractor is never having to do those self evaluations and come up with objectives. The only career objective I can come up with is to change careers and become a dabbler... just dabble in whatever strikes my fancy until I become bored with it. I guess what I'm saying is I don't have a clear sense of your career objective... what DO you want to be when you grow up grin? Mike -- Mike StarrWriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer -Website developer Graphic Designer-Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax:(262) 697-6334 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.writestarr.com - Original Message - From: Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TCP@techcommpros.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit Great question! (I was waiting for it.) Outlining the degree and graduate coursework was not part of my self evaluation. So my boss doesn't know that. So, the opinion that getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews is a sweeping opinion that is not limited by the object of the degree or coursework. And, honestly, I haven't decided what. I want to support my career at my current employer, and I need the four-year school to be geographically convenient, but I am not sure beyond that. Offhand, I'd say with a BA in English and a 15-year history of technical writing, a Masters in English would be easiest. Do I have things to learn there and can my employer benefit from them? Secondly, I have coursework in programming. We do software, can graduate coursework in programming, networks, and such fit into a masters degree in English? Or, am I close enough to a technical degree? How about an educational bent? What if I took coursework related to educating, would my writing and my employer benefit? How about if I pursued a management degree? That's the list in my head, anyway. I was really waiting for feedback from my employer before delving into this. What would you do and why? Thoughts? Cheers, Sean __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Sean, I can only relate my experience and thought process, and then you can use whatever seems to be of benefit. I was in my mid-40's when I decided that I wanted a Masters--I made that choice for me, not my employer. I also chose an arena that would allow me to build on experience, but not limit my horizon, so I chose Organizational Communication. I definitely did NOT want a Masters in Technical Communication (which in no way is a comment on the many who do choose that program), I love training and marcom too much, so this degree program seemed a perfect fit. I knew that corporate culture at my employer at the time embraced personal and professional development--reimbursement based on improving skills in the current job or one that I wanted to move into (a key phrase in the guidelines). So I was able to combine my interest in the program with the company's stated mission to develop management and leadership skills ... and two years later I received an MA in OCOM. In between the parent company closed down the division I worked for, and I headed into the contractor life. Did I plan for that? Absolutely not. Am I glad I did it? Completely. It really was one of those know your audience situations. It was also a win-win. I knew they'd never buy into tech comm as a higher level career path, but the program I went for didn't limit it, so it worked extraordinarily well. I'd paid for it on my own (and did for my last term). Connie P. Giordano The Right Words Communications Information Design (704) 957-8450 (cell) www.therightwords.com It's kind of fun to do the impossible. - Walt Disney ---Original Message--- From: Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit Sent: 12 Jun '07 15:28 Fair enough. Why hire PhDs and MA/MSes then, if a BA gets it done? Or, is hiring PhDs and MA/MSes fresh, with no experience in the company, better than growing an employee from a BA to an MA/MS/PhD? Would graduate coursework in education, language, networks, computing, management, help an employee be a better asset to a company and grow within the company? Or, is it better to hire those who have this stuff coming in? I am looking for thoughts from the group. Cheers, Sean From: Sue Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:13 PM To: Brierley, Sean Cc: TCP@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit What would a graduate degree provide to your employer, in tangible benefits? Besides personal development, I mean. I can kinda understand where they are coming from. A graduate degree is way different than a BA or BS. What type of advantage would having the advanced degree give you in order to do your job better? Are there positions in your department where having a graduate degree would be a requirement, thereby allowing for promotional opps? Wouldn't specialized training and/or classes/conferences provide better benefit to your employer? Just playin' devil's advocate here! :) ...sue On 6/12/07, Brierley, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We just did our self-evaluations for our employer. At the department meeting today, the boss said getting a masters degree was not an objective that supported company goals and was not a good objective for our self reviews. Yours truly mentioned pursuing a masters degree in his self review. Last year, I put on there getting more familiar with our product line and becoming an SME in some areas, and I'm doing that. But I do that anyway. Slots in company training courses on our product were given to folks other than me this year, because I already have a good base and the other folks are newer. So, company training is not something I have ready access to. And, I learn our product anyway. And, moreover, I want new things in my self review, not the same ones every year. Additionally, my employer pays folks with an MA more than folks with a BA, and folks with a PhD significantly more, for the same level of work. And, allegedly, my employer does have tuition reimbursement, though I can find no examples of it. So, when I heard the statement from my boss about doing graduate coursework was not an objective that supported company goals, I was a little put off. Thoughts? Sean DISCLAIMER: Important Notice * This e-mail may contain information that is confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, do not duplicate or redistribute it by any means. Please delete it and any attachments and notify the sender that you have received it in error. Unintended recipients are prohibited from taking action on the basis
Re: [TCP] graduate education not a benefit
I was going to get a combined MA in debauchery and sloth, but I found the field was full so I spent my years after getting a BA in Journalism writing for anyone who would pay me and studying video production, photography, magazine publishing and web development. Getting married to a wonderful woman also put the kibosh in debauchery...sigh. Al Geist Technical Writing, Help, Marketing Collateral, Web Design and Award Winning Videos Voice/Msg: 802-658-3140 Cell: 802-578-3964 E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geistassociates.com (Online portfolio and resume) See also: URL: http://www.geistimages.com (Fine art photographic prints for home or office and beautiful note cards for all occasions.) __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
