Re: [TeX-music] Daniel Taupin, tributes and memorial typesettings
Hi Christian, Christian Mondrup wrote: Dear all. I've now set up a dedicated web page dedicated to tributes and memorial typesettings for Daniel Taupin, see http://icking-music-archive.org/Memorial/Taupin/Statements.html. Hence I repeat my request for contributions to that page. This one has lyrics in Russian but you can listen to MIDI, or just play it on the piano. And the words are simple: Memory eternal (I'm not sure abut correct English), though the actual meaning makes sense only for Christians. It's sung at funeral services in the Church. http://www.sobor.org/music/MemoryEternalDav.pdf http://www.sobor.org/music/MemoryEternalDav.mid Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX beta 2.412; PMX 2.411 for OSX; M-Tx beta 0.54c; Other changes
Hi
Can this all be done with M-Tx? Because I have recently been using Ap very much
and it often produced broken PS files when a slur crossed the page boundary.
Broken in the sense that ps2pdf crashed on it.
Thank you!
Alexander
Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
I redid "Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen (Heinrich van
Herzogenberg)"
with the new Apl option.
It is amazing how easy it is to make the broken slurs with the right shape.
For most of the flatten slurs it is simpy "sf...sf" and if they collaps, using
something as
"suf+7s+3s+2...s+7".
If i understand well the vertical offsets of the broken slurs are relative to the
start of the slur
("suf+7s+3s+2" and not "suf+7s+10s+9").
Thank you very much Don for this amazing feature that fasten up a lot the typing of music.
Andre
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Re: Slurs crossing stems (was RE: [TeX-music] abcpp)
Hi Don, Yes-yes, I understand this and don't complain (not the shape of my :-)-er). But I wanted to point out that making the slurs end pointing to the ends of the stems is not necessarily bad :-). Thank you! Alexader Don Simons wrote: Alexander V. Voinov wrote As I remember, one of the rules is that slurs should not cross the stems. That is why I always have to raise (or lower) slurs manually in my scores, when they join more than 2 notes. And this is boring. :-) I suppose you're referring to PMX. It's true that PMX is oblivious to any intervening notes when deciding how to set a slur. But it's not true that one would *always* have to adjust the slur manually to avoid stem crossings in such cases. For example, if the stem directions of all the notes in the slur were the same, then the slur should still be OK unless one of the intervening notes is well removed from the line between the first and last note, and then only if the offset is in the direction opposite the stems. It would be exceedingly complex to design an algorithm that checked for this...it would not only have to know the lengths of all the stems (which varies) and their anchor points, but also the exact shape of the slur. Does anyone know if any of the "big boys" like Finale and Score can do this? --Don Simons ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] abcpp
Hi Christian, Christian Mondrup wrote: I must say that I'm impressed with the typesetting result, sheet note graphics as well as lyrics :-) However, I do have a suggestion for improvement: slurs should start and end close to their anchoring noteheads which is not the case with some of the slurs in your Dufay score. This score contains quite a few cases of slurs starting or ending at the end of a stem. As I remember, one of the rules is that slurs should not cross the stems. That is why I always have to raise (or lower) slurs manually in my scores, when they join more than 2 notes. And this is boring. :-) Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Re: PS-slurs K and DVI-preview
Hi All, With a new Linux distro which I installed recently (a Mandrake clone) I'm able to see all slur-ps slurs in xdvi. I didn't (yet) investigate how was it compiled. I don't see any slowdown (CPU 1.7G). Alexander Stanislav Kneifl wrote: It won't work anyway as the slurs are not in a form of embedded EPS files, but rather a PostScript code fragments scattered across a page and relying on the DVIPS header files... Sorry. Stanislav. Bob Tennent wrote: >| >|Which DVI-previewers can display the postscript slurs type K? >| >|AFAIK, PostScript slurs require a PostScript interpreter. It seems that xdvi can be compiled to call ghostscript to render PostScript specials, but this can be slow because of the number of calls to ghostscript needed. Bob T. ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] OT: question about minidisc to CDROM transcription
Hi Daniel, Stationary minidisc decks usually have optical out. What would you use on the computer side? I'd use Edirol UA-5, because I use it for stationary sound recording. But if you use Edirol UA-5 (or Mbox or whatever in this class), I think it's fine to transfer recordings from minidiscs through its analog inputs, because the quality is good enough. When you digitally copy sound from a minidisc, you can't copy it back digitally to a minidisc, because of protection measures (like those of DVDs). Another OT question: are you sure that you don't hear any sound corruption because of the minidisc compression? I'm just curious how detectable is the effect of this comression. Alexander Daniel Taupin wrote: I know that is off topic, but it concerns music. My problem is that I have recorded several pieces (of various authors, but played by me... using MusiXTeX to make the score :-)) on "minidiscs". The quality is pretty good since I use a high quality microphone. But minidiscs are not pratical for listening since one has to dispose of the reader and connect it to a HiFi device. Therefore, I'm interresting in converting my minidiscs to Audio CDROMs (classic CDROMs). And my question: Has on of you musicians an experience of transporting scores (i;e. tracks) of a minidisc to an Audio cerom (using an engraver like Nero on my PC) without any digital/analogic conversion, i.e. not using the sound input of the PC, but reading the minidisc (either by a reader connected to the PC, or by and USB ouput of a minidisc reader), and transferring the USB input on the PC to CDROM engraver? If the answer is YES or non empty, please continue discussion directly to me, in order not to overload the lis with off-topic discussions. ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Beam patterns in new PMX Beta; volunteer porter.
Hi Don, Don Simons wrote: > I still haven't had any volunteers to make up-to-date unix/linux versions. I > won't be picky about which version (2.4 vs 2.402) but it should include the > docs, example files, and pmx.tex. I did fix the EOL character in > pmx240.for. What do you mean to volunteer? I always recompiled your .for on Unix and put .tex somewhere. If you mean rpm, this applies only to Linux, although some geeks use it on othere systems as well. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint
Hi One more request for M-Tx: not to beam 8ths by default for vocal/choral music. It is very annoying to type b8 ca8 b8 aa8 g8 aa8 Thank you Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint - annoying a-repeat
Hi Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > you can play with the meter number as yo can see in this example (sorry it is pmx): > (if you dont want to see the meterchanges m8806 ---> m8800) It doesn't work anyway. But even if it did, the point of my message is different: that it's just one more 'if' in prepmx: if(eigths AND NOT (CHORAL OR VOCAL))... And it doesn't hurt anybody else. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint
Hi Christian, Christian Mondrup wrote: > > One more request for M-Tx: not to beam 8ths by default for vocal/choral music. > > It is very annoying to type b8 ca8 b8 aa8 g8 aa8 > > elementary, my dear Watson :-) use prepmx option -b either at the > command line promt or in the preamble Options clause. It doesn't work. I didn't check in the manual, but my script calls prepmx with -b for many months, maybe years. > > Documented in the M-Tx manual. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -headspaceerror!
Hi Hiroaki, Hiroaki MORIMOTO wrote: > I wrote about this alternative PS-slur package to this ML in last November, > but i have got no comment. Is there anybody using this package? I remember this. But for me it's absolutely critical that it's accessible through M-Tx and PMX therefore I waited for the support in the latter. If the difference amount to changing one include to the other, I'd add one more sed command to my script mtx2dvi. But I suspect that it requires something more. Don, can you comment on this? Can PMX support this just out of the box? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358)-headspace error!
Hi Stanislav, From: Stanislav Kneifl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -headspace error! Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:11:33 +0200 > And long slur (and generally any line at low angle) will be jagged on > priners with less than 600 dpi resolution, regardless of its bitmapped > or vector nature. This is a fact. Yes, this is very annoyning, sometimes they are broken not only on the screen but also on the print. I was just surprised that a postscript _program_ which draws bezier curves would result in that stepwise look both on the screen and on the print. Thank you once again for these macros anyway. Another question: why isn't it possible to make it work with Yap (or xdvi). I see that Yap desperately tries to interpret psslur.pro but fails somewhere. We all know that Yap and xdvi can display ps pictures, why it's not possible for the slurs? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -headspaceerror!
Hi Stanislav, First impressions of users: The ends of shorter (one opinion) or all (other opinion) slurs might be finer (sharper). The steppity does not matter, nobody detected it. Therefore the most significant obstacle is the unavailability in Yap. Thank you Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -headspace error!
Hi Stanislav,
... and what I reported previously about the printed output is also
related to this. Slurs are too "steppy" also on the paper, not only on
the screen, though it's less detectable. This does not depend on the
difference between PS and PDF.
Alexander
Stanislav Kneifl wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> I think the problem is at your side. The slurs are drawn as a Bezier
> curves and there is no (easy) way nor reason to implement antialiasing
> in a PS code. The only way you can influence the smoothness is the
> flatness parameter determining the maximum allowed difference between
> the bezier curve and its actually drawn approximation - line polygon.
> You can make some experiment - look for line
>
> /drawseg { 0 0 moveto
>
> in the psslurs.pro and replace it with
>
> /drawseg { currentflat 2 div setflat 0 0 moveto
>
> and see what happens for differrent values of 2 :-)
>
> A screenshot of your problem could tell more, but I suppose it is only a
> matter of screen output.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stanislav.
>
> Alexander V. Voinov wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > Don Simons wrote:
> >
> >> "Alexander V. Voinov" wrote:
> >>
> >>>... and for the short slurs old ones actually look better (slightly, but
> >>>it's detectable). And these are majority, even in our choral music where
> >>>a lexem may by sung in 15 measures.
> >>
> >>I've already commented to Stanislav that the short slurs seem too light, and
> >>suggested it would be nice at least to be able to optionally change the
> >>thickness from the default. Why do you think the old ones are better?
> >
> >
> > I didn't mean thickness. I my concrete example old slurs have more
> > regular curves, smoother, finer. Maybe it's an effect of converting from
> > PS to PDF via Acrobat Distiller, I don't know.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Opinions about stuff like this are valuable to the developers.
> >
> >
> > When you see the resulting PDF on the screen the slurs look too
> > "finalish" :-). Is it possible to antialias them, or it's too much a
> > demand?
> >
> > Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -headspace error!
Hi Stanislav,
See this PDF: http://www.sobor.org/tmp/MercyOfPeaceKvl.pdf
Here the slurs look too stepwise, in a great contrast to the refined
"TeXish" look of the rest.
Alexander
Stanislav Kneifl wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> I think the problem is at your side. The slurs are drawn as a Bezier
> curves and there is no (easy) way nor reason to implement antialiasing
> in a PS code. The only way you can influence the smoothness is the
> flatness parameter determining the maximum allowed difference between
> the bezier curve and its actually drawn approximation - line polygon.
> You can make some experiment - look for line
>
> /drawseg { 0 0 moveto
>
> in the psslurs.pro and replace it with
>
> /drawseg { currentflat 2 div setflat 0 0 moveto
>
> and see what happens for differrent values of 2 :-)
>
> A screenshot of your problem could tell more, but I suppose it is only a
> matter of screen output.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stanislav.
>
> Alexander V. Voinov wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > Don Simons wrote:
> >
> >> "Alexander V. Voinov" wrote:
> >>
> >>>... and for the short slurs old ones actually look better (slightly, but
> >>>it's detectable). And these are majority, even in our choral music where
> >>>a lexem may by sung in 15 measures.
> >>
> >>I've already commented to Stanislav that the short slurs seem too light, and
> >>suggested it would be nice at least to be able to optionally change the
> >>thickness from the default. Why do you think the old ones are better?
> >
> >
> > I didn't mean thickness. I my concrete example old slurs have more
> > regular curves, smoother, finer. Maybe it's an effect of converting from
> > PS to PDF via Acrobat Distiller, I don't know.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Opinions about stuff like this are valuable to the developers.
> >
> >
> > When you see the resulting PDF on the screen the slurs look too
> > "finalish" :-). Is it possible to antialias them, or it's too much a
> > demand?
> >
> > Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - headspace error!
Hi Arjen Bax wrote: > > Aloha Alexander Voinov, > > You wrote May 30, 2002 7:27 AM: > > > When you see the resulting PDF on the screen the slurs look too > > "finalish" :-). Is it possible to antialias them, or it's too much a > > demand? > > Do you preview your PS-file with Gsview? In that case it might help to > set your "Graphics Alpha" to a higher number of bits (4 instead of 1). > You can find the setting via menu Media->Display Settings. No, I directly proceeded to convert it to PDF, because this is what site visitors would see (PS being downloadable). Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - headspace error!
Hi Don, Don Simons wrote: > > "Alexander V. Voinov" wrote: > > ... and for the short slurs old ones actually look better (slightly, but > > it's detectable). And these are majority, even in our choral music where > > a lexem may by sung in 15 measures. > > I've already commented to Stanislav that the short slurs seem too light, and > suggested it would be nice at least to be able to optionally change the > thickness from the default. Why do you think the old ones are better? I didn't mean thickness. I my concrete example old slurs have more regular curves, smoother, finer. Maybe it's an effect of converting from PS to PDF via Acrobat Distiller, I don't know. > Opinions about stuff like this are valuable to the developers. When you see the resulting PDF on the screen the slurs look too "finalish" :-). Is it possible to antialias them, or it's too much a demand? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - headspace error!
Hi Don, Don Simons wrote: > > Alexander V. Voinov wrote > > I still have errors on undefined control sequences of the form > > islurdXXX. > > I just checked the copy of pmx.tex from > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/pmx2358.zip > and it has the new slur definitions. Is that the copy you are using? Are > you sure there is no other pmx.tex higher up in your search path? I'm _very_ sorry. It's again an extra copy in the path. Now it works, thank you. But I'd vote to retain at least minimal support for the old slurs. At least for previewing. I started to teach non-tech people to typeset scores in M-Tx/PMX, there certainly will miss Yap. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - headspace error!
"Alexander V. Voinov" wrote: > > Hi Don, > > I still have errors on undefined control sequences of the form > islurdXXX. ... and for the short slurs old ones actually look better (slightly, but it's detectable). And these are majority, even in our choral music where a lexem may by sung in 15 measures. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - headspace error!
Hi Don, I still have errors on undefined control sequences of the form islurdXXX. Alexander Don Simons wrote: > > A big oops! The file slur-ps.zip that I had uploaded to the archive several > days ago was out of date :-( I'm terribly sorry for any inconvenience this > caused (Andre, Alexander). I know how frustrating it can be to install new > freeware as I just finished installing MikTeX with plenty of detours. Now I > think it's fixed; please try the corrected version > > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/musixtex/slur-ps.zip > > --Don Simons > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser
Hi All,
Don Simons wrote:
>
> Alexander V. Voinov wrote
> > Don Simons wrote:
> > > Have you downloaded the most recent musixps.tex, psslurs.pro, and PMX
> > > executable?
> >
> > Do you mean this all is not in the package you announced?
>
> It's all in the two packages that I announced (and provided direct links
> from the announcement). It just never occurred to me to include the
> postscript slur stuff with PMX, for the same reasons PMX does not come with
> musixtex or tex files.
I installed these both packages, but got the following:
) (C:\localtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\musixps.tex
MusiXPS PostScript slurs, ties and crescendos 0.92 (12.5.2002)
) bar 1 bar 2 bar 3 bar 4 bar 5 bar 6 bar 7 bar 8 bar 9 bar 10 bar 11
bar 12
bar 13 bar 14 bar 15 bar 16 bar 17 bar 18 bar 19 bar 20 [1] bar 21 bar
22
bar 23 bar 24 bar 25 bar 26 bar 27 bar 28 bar 29 bar 30 bar 31 bar 32
! Undefined control sequence.
l.268 \pnotes{4.00}\tieforisd
\islurd0{'G}\hl G\nextvoice%
?
Why?
Thank you
Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser
Hi Don Don Simons wrote: > Have you downloaded the most recent musixps.tex, psslurs.pro, and PMX > executable? Do you mean this all is not in the package you announced? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Adapting MusiXTeX for people not using latinalphabets.
Hi Daniel, From: "taupin (wanadoo-lps)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [TeX-music] Adapting MusiXTeX for people not using latin alphabets. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:18:26 +0200 > Due to a complaint coming from a russion music typesetter, I'm one of those, but I don't see any real problem with the current toolset of MusiXTeX. Thank you anyway. I use a custom set of Type 1 fonts for all textual fragments of scores, because I prepare PDFs as the final output format, and the standard Russian complements to cm fonts became available in Type 1 format only recently (with the help of this great font tracing utility announced here several months ago), and these fonts are too wide anyway for lyrics. There is a more important request, related to lyrics, that is to allow to break words with hyphen+blanks instead of just hyphen within a line of lyric, so that one can type: ( a4 b4 c4 b4 [ a8 g8 ] a4 ) g8 ga8 g8 ga8 g8 ca8 Ma-ry has a lit-tle lamb. Now one has to type: ( a4 b4 c4 b4 [ a8 g8 ] a4 ) g8 ga8 g8 ga8 g8 ca8 Ma-ry has a lit-tle lamb. Which is less visual. But this request of probably to go to to the authors of PMX/M-Tx. (And also it would be great not to beam eights by default when the style is set to Choral). Thank you Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Problems with \setvolta and \Setvolta
Hi Daniel, Daniel Taupin wrote: > > After somebody sent me a faulty test file, I find out that \setvolta and > \Setvolta systematically cause Overfull hboxes ion the line where it > appears. > > Question: >1) Has somebody else observed the same problem? Most likely yes, but I need to check if it was volta (and reconstruct the case). >2) Has somebody found a correction? No. :-( Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll
Hi All, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > This i must confess: the slurs with a large vertical distance are much > better With this, I would only wonder why the default for a slur is to connect the notes even when they are for sure to cross some stems? I spend much of the typesetting time trying to guess correct N and M in (+N f4 g4 [ a8 g8 ] )+M and this is boring. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll
Hi Don, Don Simons wrote: > > For future PMX planning, I'd like to know if there are any M-Tx or PMX users > who do not use postscript slurs when creating new scores (and if not, why > not). I do not anticipate making old scores unusable, but I may confine > future slur enhancements to apply only when "Ap" has been issued. Thank you. I would confess that I didn't try them yet, mostly because I use M-Tx and I was not sure that the move is as straight as for the pure PMX users. If there is no difference I would try this weekend. Regards Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Noteedit: PMX --> M-Tx (?)
Hi Joerg, Joerg Anders wrote: > > This mail is only for PMX users who use noteedit for > PMX generation. Some users requested M-Tx export. > > I think about. But I certainly can't support both, PMX and M-Tx. > So, I could only substitute PMX export against M-Tx export. > Because M-Tx is a PMX pre-processor this souldn't be > a restriction.(?) I can't speak for everybody, but I never use PMX directly, only through M-Tx. If noteedit generated human readable M-Tx, I'd [try to] begin using it and try to promote it to my less emacs-friedly colleagues. Thank you Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Subject: MusiXTeX version T.104
"D. Taupin (wanadoo-lps)" wrote: > > Don Simons wrote: > > > > Hi, Daniel-- > > > > Today I downloaded musixtex.tex 1.04 for the purpose of uploading to the > > Icking archive. Have you finished correcting the wording about the GNU > > General Public License? Since there appear to be no changes in functionality > > from 1.03, I'll wait until I hear from you before I update the archive. > > Two changes: > 1) \texteuro > 2) GPL in musixdoc and musix*.tex sources and in main *.mf routines. > > > > > I notice that you still used the bitmapped fonts in making musixdoc.pdf. > > When I took over the software section of the archive, I made a pdf of > > musixtex.doc 1.03 using postscript fonts: > > You are welcome to do it but only as AN ALTERNATIVE. In fact, I > experience that several users of Acrobat Read DO NOT have all fonts, PDF usually contains all necessary fonts. It's a problem of the author who creates a PS (to convert to PDF) and not the problem of the users. Yes, a PDF with embedded fonts is larger, but who cares these days? Anyway it's smaller than one with raster fonts! Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Subject: MusiXTeX version T.104
Hi Daniel, "D. Taupin (wanadoo-lps)" wrote: > - T.98 \hidebarrules, \showbarrules implemented Hmm. It says: ) (avvmtx.tex) (hipstart.tex) (C:\localtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\musixtex.tex) (C:\localtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\pmx.tex) (C:\localtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\musixmad.tex (C:\localtexmf\tex\generic\musixtex\musixadd.tex MusiXADDitional instruments T.99 <24 March 2000> ) MusiXMore ADditional instruments T.99 <24 March 2000> ) ! Undefined control sequence. l.72 \hidebarrules % ? Should I \include something more? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] A small PMX/LaTeX incompatibility
Hi Donald, Donald A Simons wrote: > However, I'd be glad to hear from list members if they think any action is > needed on this. And if there is such a desire, I'd appreciate some help > from the TeXperts in suggesting a work-around that lets "Ae" and LaTeX > co-exist in peace. Hm. I inserted Ae in my score, and got: ) bar 0 ! Undefined control sequence. l.73 \starteq % ? What do I need to do to enable this? Returning to the Subject. Do I understand correctly that if I do not use equal spacing I shouldn't come across this problem with LaTeX? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] line of lyric in the new musixlyr
Hi Rainer, Rainer Dunker wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 08:51:50PM -0800, Alexander V. Voinov wrote: > > [...] > > line of lyrics sometimes becomes broken (not exactly > > horizontal). See an example here: > > > > http://www.sobor.org/music/tmp/example.zip > > > > Two PDFs, suffixed as 'rus' show the difference: an -old one is built > > with the previous (old?) version of musixlyr (and same old versions of > > M-Tx and PMX). All the rest, including a fully English version, is built > > with the latest M-Tx (c053h), PMX (2.35) and musixlyr. > > Hmm - I've processed the PaschaEirmos1 example without noticing the > problem. I guess that this has to do with different fonts we're using. I used Type 1 versions of my Russian fonts and Type 1 (bluesky?) versions of cm fonts in the transliterated example (which you processed). Did you use mf versions in your processing? > > Since you're using 12pt font size (which is nonstandard for musixlyr), > you may try to fix this problem by inserting the command \setlyrstrut > after your global font change "%%\rm" within your score header. If that > doesn't work, please complain again. Yes, it does work, so I thank instead of complain :-). WBR Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] octaves for scores and for MIDI generation
Hi Donald, Donald A Simons wrote: > > Alexander V. Voinov wrote > > > Sometimes it is desirable or even necessary to generate MIDI with some > > voices put one octave lower (higher) than they appear in the scores. If > > there are no better proposals, can it be possible to extend M-Tx/PMX > > with a special octave change suffix, which would affect only MIDI and > > not the scores? For example (+) and (-), or something else? > > > > I don't think it's likely that I would include this in PMX, it's just too > specialized to justify the programming effort. However, I have been > thinking about including voice-specific transposition. With that feature > active, you could make a slightly altered version of your score to produce > the MIDI file. But this is what we do now (I saw other examples, e.g. by Christian): making slightly altered versions. Though it's not difficult, but boring and error-prone, you have to regenerate such version each time. Text file explosion as well, it's all becomes unmantainable at some point. I don't think this request is more specialized that some features found in M-Tx and/or PMX. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] line of lyric in the new musixlyr
Hi All, Christian Mondrup wrote: > > I observe that the line of lyrics sometimes becomes broken (not exactly > > horizontal). See an example here: > > > > http://www.sobor.org/music/tmp/example.zip > > > I can reproduce - but not explain your problem. Hopefully Rainer Dunker > will take care of that. It may noted in addition, that (in this same example) with smaller fonts the effect disappears. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] octaves for scores and for MIDI generation
Hi All, I recall that it was discussed a year ago, but I don't see if there were any changes in preprocessor directives for this. Sometimes it is desirable or even necessary to generate MIDI with some voices put one octave lower (higher) than they appear in the scores. If there are no better proposals, can it be possible to extend M-Tx/PMX with a special octave change suffix, which would affect only MIDI and not the scores? For example (+) and (-), or something else? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] line of lyric in the new musixlyr
Hi I've installed the new musixlyr package from the archive: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/ I observe that the line of lyrics sometimes becomes broken (not exactly horizontal). See an example here: http://www.sobor.org/music/tmp/example.zip Two PDFs, suffixed as 'rus' show the difference: an -old one is built with the previous (old?) version of musixlyr (and same old versions of M-Tx and PMX). All the rest, including a fully English version, is built with the latest M-Tx (c053h), PMX (2.35) and musixlyr. Thank you Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MiKTeX & MusiXTeX et. al.
Hi Andre, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > 2. > the ligatures are replaced by a pound sign (in Latex) Sorry, what does this mean? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] mtxC053h.zip
Hi Dirk, Did you change the syntax of M-Tx files? I try the following: === Title: abc Composer: cde Style: SATB Space: 3 4 Meter: 0/4 Flats: 2 Systems: 1 Pages: 1 g4 g b b a b g2 g4 g a b c2 b4 a g2 g4 g b b a b g2 g4 g a b c2 b4 a g2 g4 g b b a b g2 g4 g f d c2 d4 f g2 g4 g b b a b g2 g4 g f d c2 d4 f g2 === And it says ==> This is M-Tx 0.53h (Music from TeXt) <20 November 2001> Writing to test15.pmx Unidentifiable line: ERROR on line 9 If you did, where could one get the new manual? Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] New PMX beta Version 2.35
Hi Don et al. Don Simons wrote: > Cautionary accidentals: follow accidental with 'c'. Will it be available via M-Tx? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PostScript slurs
Hi All, Christian Mondrup wrote: > Don Simons wrote: > > > > In the coming days I'll be looking into incorporating the postscript > > slurs into PMX. I haven't decided whether to make them an option, or to > I would say that the use of postscript slurs should be kept separate > from the "old" slurs by means of a new PMX syntax. By doing so there'll > be no backward compatibility problems. The disadvantage is of course > that typesetters will be forced to re-edit their scores if they want to > change to postscript slurs. The advantage is that a new syntax might > better adopt to the curvature variations offered in Stanislafs code. But as I understand the difference would be most striking for long slurs, or will all slurs look differently? If the change is homogeneous and improving the look of _all_ slurs, regardless of their length, I'd vote for the replacement and keeping the old switched on by a command-line option/global flag (like those used in the first lines of M-Tx texts, not sure which of them related to PMX :-). I have a special intent to vote for the old syntax with the new slurs because I'm a user of M-Tx :-). WBR Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PDF: a dissident view
Hi All, Christian Mondrup wrote: > Personally I agree with Dirk that the screen rendering quality of > Ghostview is better than that of Acrobat Reader (that is not true for > DVI/xdvi in my experience - maybe due to my hardware). My main reason > for converting as many of our postscript scores as possible to pdf is > that I as sheet note editor regularily receive emails from frustrated, > non-techie users having problems with handling the postscript format. > Another important aspect is the browser problem that Mats mentions. Yes. My users will never bother with other formats. If it's not PDF, it's nonexistent. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Re: Printing problems with type-1 fonts
Hi Don, Don Simons wrote: > Flush with success, I thought maybe updating Acrobat would enable it to > deal with the type-1 slurs in a pdf. So I downloaded and installed > Acrobat Reader 5.0. But alas, it's a step BACKWARDS from Acrobat 4.0 > which I had been using: the long slurs in type-1 fonts now don't show up > at all, either on screen or in the printed page. :-( Plus in my experience Acrobat Reader 5 reproduced 5 straight stuff lines with different widths, which compromises the very reason to deal with PDF (screen look quality). And it was not easy to get rid of Acrobat Reader 5, I have to admit. BTW did anybody try to view MusiXTeX score PDFs on a PDA? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] beta testers
Don Simons wrote: > 4. Report problems, bugs, kudos, etc. directly to the developer or to > the mailing list. What is 'kudos'? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Re: 3rd line of music
HI Don Don Simons wrote: > Then what about the 2nd (middle) line? Stem direction and default shift > could be optional (as it could for any line), but there still needs to > be a default. > > And remember, in keeping with PMX/MusiXTeX convention, lines are > numbered from bottom to top. I assume your comment applies to the > lowest line of the 3, which in PMX/MusiXTeX numbering would be No.1 > > It looks like a default setting could be > > Lowest line (#1): Stems down, right shift by .5 > Middle (#2): Stems down, no shift > Upper (#3): Stems up, no shift In my examples the middle line follows the first one, therefore it's: Lowest line (#1): Stems down, right shift by .5 Middle (#2): Stems up, no shift Upper (#3): Stems up, no shift What did you mean by 'stems down, no shift'? How can it be possible? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Re: 3rd line of music
Hi All, Another example: music for homogeneous choirs where 3 voices (2 sopranos + alto or 2 tenors + bariton) are place on one staff. I used C: to emulate this. Thankfully the line of music, which I presented this way, was really an exact tertia of the first without its own melodic curve. Otherwise I'd have to move the third line to the second staff. Which would be counterintuitive in this case. What is the real limitation: the underlying MusixTeX or the preprocessor? Alexander Christian Mondrup wrote: > > nitadori wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok! Thank you! BTW: I'm not sure how many users need more > > > than 2 lines of music. Most scores have at most 2. > > > > > I tried to typeset Bach's Recercar a 6. > > > > Another similar example is the fantasia in g minor by J.S.Bach (BWV572) > typeset with a recent version of Finale by Oliver Nicolson and available > from the Bach section of our archive. As demonstrated in these cases the > need for more than 2 voices per staff comes in with keyboard music > composed in multi voice counterpoint. A third staff voice has been added > to the latest version of the sheet note editor MUP to meet such needs. > > Bye > -- > Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer > Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus > Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark > Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] musix13.pfb is fixed.
Hi Takanori, There are also ugly problems with *long* slurs. Adobe acrobat badly dislikes them. So that I have to comment them out in the map file you supply. I will come up with some examples when return home (from work). Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > musix13.pfb has a bug that the glyph size was wrong. > I fixed the bug and sent it to CTAN administrator and he replaced it. > Please use the new one. > > The archive file size is very big. It's about 4 MB. But the size of > musix13.pfb is 30 kB. Should I post musix13.pfb to this mailing list? > -- > Takanori > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Type-1 font experiences
Hi All Please post your .map files for tetex, which you made to connect these new fonts, somewhere! Thank you Alexander Christian Mondrup wrote: > Don Simons wrote: > > > > Thanks so much to Takanori Uchiyama for making the Type 1 versions > > available. We've been talking about this for quite some time. > > > > I have to be honest and report that getting them installed and printing > > has not been easy or straightforward, and I still can't get it all done > > under Windows98. The procedure I have than works OK for making a pdf is > > > > Linux (tetex) dvips => Win98 Acrobat Distiller > > > > I simply could not figure out how to get Acrobat to handle the Type 1's > > when I made the .ps in a DOS window with emtex's dvips. Perhaps dvips > > (emtex) wasn't embedding the fonts properly. But I chose to look into > > Linux rather than hash out the Windows problems on list, knowing that > > not so many others use Windows. > > > > Now the real reason for this post is to point out what seems to be a > > purely Linux problem: I also succeeded in making a pdf directly with > > dvipdfm. The printed output was OK except for the horizontal beams. > > Every one protruded beyond the stem where it should have stopped. I'm > > guessing the horizontal beams are drawn in postscript, while the slanted > > ones are fonts. It looks like dvipdfm is extending the lines that make > > up the beams with a semicircle whose diameter equals the line width. So > > the questions are: Has anyone else noticed this? > > Not with the pdf scores I've been producing by means of the new type 1 > fonts and dvipdfm (Redhat Linux/TeTeX). Take as an example André's > typesetting of Mozart, 'Laudate Dominum' to which I on request added a > pdf score a few days ago. There are lots of beams in the piano > accompaniment. When viewing the result with gv (a flavour of Ghostview) > I don't recognize anything like that described. However, for certain > magnifications Acrobat Reader actually shows *some* beams somewhat > extended. But they get 'normal' again with changed magnification. > > > Are there any options > > that could fix it? Or is this just a feature of the way dvipdfm draws > > lines and/or solid boxes? (I haven't yet loaded the new versions of the > > fonts, but I don't think they would affect this). > -- > Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer > Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus > Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark > Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX-mode for Emacs
Hi All, Yes, after publishing my changes I went to the auctex site and didn't find 9.10p. But I use it for years and never interested in updated. Alexander Reinhard Katzmann wrote: > > Hi Alexander! > > > > I have some more modifications to auctex which allow to detect and account > > > for file dependencies like .mtx->.tex->.dvi. But I was not sure that these > > > changes were good from the point of view of the package design and > > > hesistated to publish them immediately. Now I will place them (that is, a > > > diff file) for everybody to try. > > > > I didn't find the original package, it's somewhere on CDs. I place here: > > http://www.sobor.org/tmp/auctex/, two files of auctex-9.10p, which were > > really modified: tex.el and tex-buf.el. > > The package of auctex can be found on the following site: > URL : http://www.cs.auc.dk/~amanda/auctex/ > > It would be nice to know on which version this patch is based. Either > my Linux distribution still has not upgraded or it is considered > as quite instable (I have version 9.9p installed). > > > Note that these changes are not intended to use .pmx as the primary > > score source. It implements instead a direct dependency of .tex (or even > > .dvi, if I recall) on .mtx. But it should be straightforward to add a > > .pmx support. > > AFAIK up to now only mtx/pmx files are treated similar to tex files. > Is someone working on additional "native" support for pmx ? > (I still have to test how it looks on a normal pmx file). > > (Sorry, first Mail used wrong "From") > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards, > > Reinhard Katzmann > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX-mode for Emacs
Hi All, "Alexander V. Voinov" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have some more modifications to auctex which allow to detect and account > for file dependencies like .mtx->.tex->.dvi. But I was not sure that these > changes were good from the point of view of the package design and > hesistated to publish them immediately. Now I will place them (that is, a > diff file) for everybody to try. I didn't find the original package, it's somewhere on CDs. I place here: http://www.sobor.org/tmp/auctex/, two files of auctex-9.10p, which were really modified: tex.el and tex-buf.el. Note that these changes are not intended to use .pmx as the primary score source. It implements instead a direct dependency of .tex (or even .dvi, if I recall) on .mtx. But it should be straightforward to add a .pmx support. I place there also some more files which may be useful. > Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX-mode for Emacs
Hi All,
I have some more modifications to auctex which allow to detect and account
for file dependencies like .mtx->.tex->.dvi. But I was not sure that these
changes were good from the point of view of the package design and
hesistated to publish them immediately. Now I will place them (that is, a
diff file) for everybody to try.
Alexander
Christian Mondrup wrote:
> Stefan Svensson wrote:
> >
> > Is there a pmx-mode for Emacs available somewhere?
>
> Not that I know of. But nevertheless I've found that standard TeX mode
> is useful for editing mtx source files because I most often intersperse
> them with lot of in-line musixtex code. To facilitate that I've added
> this to my ~/.emacs
>
> (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.mtx$" . tex-mode) auto-mode-alist))
>
> where you of course should replace "\\.mtx$" with "\\.pmx$"
>
> I also add some extra stuff
>
> (add-hook 'tex-mode-hook
> '(lambda ()
>(load-library "dk-tex-keys")
>(load-library "mtx-macros")))
>
> referring to the macros dk-tex-keys.el containing some macros for
> converting european letters to the corresponding TeX macros and
> mtx-macros containing some keybord macros
>
> Bye
> --
> Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer
> Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus
> Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark
> Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org
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Re: [TeX-music] Voice name abbreviations at the first system
Hi Christian,
Christian Mondrup wrote:
> %% \def\sa{\vbox{\hbox{\rlap{S.}}\hbox{\rlap{A.
> %% \def\tb{\vbox{\hbox{\rlap{T.}}\hbox{\rlap{B.
But now it broke the workaround, which enabled to make the last system
be shorter. Probably it reinializes something there, and repeates the
names of the voices in front of it. I placed the source and the result
as attachment. BTW it's my first use of the type 1 versions of the music
fonts. Thankx again to Bob Tennent!
Regards
Alexander
beglitanysr-m.pdf
%%\input avvmtx
%%\stdbarrules
%%\nobarnumbers
%%\let\barsav\bar
%%\font\lhbf = faqb6a at 14.4pt
%%\font\numf = faqb6a at 12pt
%%\font\tit = faqb6a at 20pt
%%\font\twit = faqri6a at 12pt
%%\font\twru = faqr6a at 11pt
%%\font\ru = liver at 14.4pt
%%\ru
%%\raggedbottom
%%\parskip 3\Interligne plus 2\Interligne minus 2\Interligne
%%\def\num#1{\kern-20pt\boxit{\numf#1}}
%%\def\numa#1#2{\kern-#2pt\boxit{\numf#1}}
%\def\te{\vbox{\hbox{\numfÒ$_1$}\hbox{\numfÒ$_2$}}}
%\def\ba{\vbox{\hbox{\numfÁ$_1$}\hbox{\numfÁ$_2$}}}
%%\def\te{\kern-7pt\vbox{\hbox{\rlap{\twruÒ$_1$}}\hbox{\rlap{\twruÒ$_2$
%%\def\ba{\kern-7pt\vbox{\hbox{\rlap{\twruÁ$_1$}}\hbox{\rlap{\twruÁ$_2$
%%\def\shortsys#1{\def\alaligne{\let\alaligne\alalignesav\stoppiece\hsize #1
\startbarno\barno\startpiece}}
Title: \xtit{Ïðîñèòåëüíàÿ åêòåíèÿ}{}
Composer: \twit Ñåðãåé Ðÿá÷åíêî
SATB3: Voices S,A T B; Choral; Clefs G G8 F
Style: SATB
Space: 7 1
Meter: 0/8
Sharps: 1
Systems: 3
Pages: 1
Name: \te \ba
Indent: 0.05
PMX: h10.5i w7i It76ifrtr Aa2
%PMX: h10i w7i It76i90:76:94 Aa2
U: \num{1}
b8 ba8 b8 a8 ( g4 a2 ) g0
@+1 g8 ga8 g8 e8 ( e4 f2 ) d0
L: Ãîñ-ïî-äè, ïî-ìè-ëóé.
d8+ da8 d8 c8 ( b4 c2 ) b0
g8 ga8 g8 a8 ( e4 d2 ) g0 zg-
U: \num{2}
b8 ba8 b8 a8 ( g4 a2 ) g0
g8 ga8 g8 e8 ( e4 d2s ) e0
L: Ãîñ-ïî-äè, ïî-ìè-ëóé.
d8 da8 d8 c8 b2d b0
g8+ ga8 g8 a8 ( e4 b2 ) e0 ze-
b8 ( b4d a8 ) g4 a2 g0
g8 ( g4d e8 ) e4 f2 d0
L: Ïî-äàé, Ãîñ-ïî-äè.
d8 ( d4d c8 ) b4 c2 b0
g8+ ( g4d a8 ) e4 d2 g0 zg-
b8 ( b4d a8 ) g4 a2 g0
g8 ( g4d e8 ) e4 d2s e0
L: Ïî-äàé, Ãîñ-ïî-äè.
d8 ( d4d c8 ) b4 b2 b0
g8+ ( g4d a8 ) e4 b2 e0 ze-
%%L3
%%\\\shortsys{94mm}\
X6 b8 ( b4d a8 ) g4 a2 g0
g8 ( g4d d8 ) e4 f2 d0
L:Òå-áå, Ãîñ-ïî-äè.
d8 ( d4d c8 ) b4 c2 b0
g8+ ( g4d a8 ) e4 d2 g0 zg-
Re: [TeX-music] Voice name abbreviations at the first system
Hi Don and Christian,
Don Simons wrote:
> \vbox{\hbox{T.}\hbox{B.}}
> \vbox{\hbox{S.}\hbox{A.}}
> Sorry, but I don't know how to translate this into M-Tx .
Thank you, Christian's solution works.
BTW, replying to you via 'Reply to All' (in netscape) I get both your
and list's addresses but when replying same way to Christian I get only
his own address and have to manually insert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Voice name abbreviations at the first system
Hi Christian, Christian Mondrup wrote: > > Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > > B. > > > T. > > > A. > > > S. > > > bttt > > > ./ > > > > Hmm. Looks like it's one of the few PMX constructions, which cannot be > > directly reproduced in M-Tx via %%. Right? > > Maybe I misunderstand your question. What's wrong with the result of: > > Style: SATB4 > Meter: C > Name: S. A. T. B. Thank you. To justify myself I can cite the manual: Name: Dietrich Gerald Names of instruments, performers etc. :-) A good chance to misinterpret! Also, when I do: Style: SATB Name S. A. T. B. It shows = S. = - = A. = - Instead of S. = A. = - T. = B. = - How to overcome this? Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Voice name abbreviations at the first system
Hi Andre, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > B. > T. > A. > S. > bttt > ./ Hmm. Looks like it's one of the few PMX constructions, which cannot be directly reproduced in M-Tx via %%. Right? Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Voice name abbreviations at the first system
Hi All, Can I specify those by means of M-Tx/PMX? I mean, e.g. S. A. T. B. for Soprano, Alto, Tenor and Bass at the corresponding staves of the first system. I have honestly browsed the docs, found other interesting things, but didn't find a notation for this. Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx and obsolete version of musixlyr
Hi Dirk, Dirk Laurie wrote: > If you are just a plain user of M-Tx with little interest in the > technical background of the package, don't read any further. Yes, but because considerable time passed, I thought I could give it a try... I didn't understand at which web site did you put the new version? Regardless of this, PMX 2.3 didn't like my scores, prepared with M-Tx 0.52 and PMX 2.20, so I rolled back to these versions, keeping only the basic MusixTeX recent (1.01 rpm with 1.02 and some recent update for ||o||). PMX 2.3 placed the systems from all the pages (say, 4) onto one single page, as if you toggled 'scroll lock'. Alexander > > > Dirk > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] M-Tx and obsolete version of musixlyr
Hi I have compiled the latest version of M-Tx (C053e), but it says that musixlyr is obsolete, and I don't see any newer version in any of the known places. What to do? Is this version of M-Tx too developmental for plain users to use it? Can the last stable version work with the PMX 2.3? Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MetaFont expertise?
Hi Christian Mondrup wrote: > > Bob Tennent wrote: > > > > Hi all. Many of us have longed for type 1 versions of the MusiXTeX fonts so > > that we can make pdfs that view well in the Acrobat reader (or at all in xpdf). > > I've recently been working with Peter Szabo's TeXTrace script and have managed > > to produce (unhinted) type 1 versions of musix16 and musix20. The pfbs and > > examples may be found here: > > > > ftp://ftp.cs.queensu.ca/pub/rdt/music/ > > > > What about the rest of the fonts (other sizes, slurs, ties)? Many that I've > > tried create problems for metafont at high resolution (needed to produce good > > type 1 fonts). > > > > I have no metafont expertise. Is there anyone willing to help with debugging > > the metafont sources to allow high-resolution use? > > I can't enough recommend all forces being set in to help Bob with this > project! Yes, this is very great. I only cannot figure out how could I replace these two fonts, so that the rest is still used as MF. May I ask the author to post some psfonts.map or so files? Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] 3 voices in 1 staff
Hi All,
Now I need this in M-Tx (i.e. 3 voices in 1 staff). Is it possible?
Thank you in advance
Alexander
Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
>
> sometimes i use this:
> ---
> 4 4 4 4 4 4 0 0
> 1 5 20 0.03
>
> bbtt
> ./
> AI0
> %\\let\nextinstrument\nextvoice\
> %\\def\nbinstruments{1}\
> %\\setstaffs12\
> %\\setclef16\
> \\setname1{ }\
> \\setinterinstrument2{14\Interligne}\
>
> X:0.5 c43 c c c X: /
> c42 c c c //
> c44 c c c /
> c44 c c c //
> c46 c c c /
> X:0.5 c45u cu cu cu X: /
>
> r0 | r | r | r /
> r0 | r | r | r //
> r0 | r | r | r /
> r0 | r | r | r //
> r0 | r | r | r /
> r0 | r | r | r /
> ---
> greetings
> Andre
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "nitadori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:51 PM
> Subject: [TeX-music] 3 voices in 1 staff
>
> > Hello.
> > I need to typeset 3 voices in 1 staff and tried
> >
> > ---
> > 4 -3 1 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > 1 5 20 0.03
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > bbtt
> > ./
> > \\let\nextinstrument\nextvoice\
> > \\def\nbinstruments{1}\
> > \\setstaffs12\
> > \\setclef16\
> > \\setname1{ }\
> >
> > X:0.5 c43 c c c X: /
> > c42 c c c //
> > c44 c c c /
> > c44 c c c //
> > c46 c c c /
> > X:0.5 c45u cu cu cu X: /
> >
> > r0 | r | r | r /
> > r0 | r | r | r //
> > r0 | r | r | r /
> > r0 | r | r | r //
> > r0 | r | r | r /
> > r0 | r | r | r /
> > ---
> >
> > But I get too small \interstaff .
> > Does anyone know good solution or other way
> > to typeset 3 voices without inline TeX?
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Keigo NITADORI
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [TeX-music] A meter change to C
Hi All, Thank you for suggestions, indeed it's documented. Alexander Christian Mondrup wrote: > Citat "Alexander V. Voinov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi All, > > > > I have to change meter in the middle of the piece to > C. With my current > > knowledge I can only do m2/2/2/2 (in all voices). All > attempts to do > > something like mC/C or m2/2/C, etc, fail. Please help > if it's really > > possible. > > It is, in M-Tx notation: > > Style: solo > Meter: 3/4 > Bars/Line: 3 > > g4 g g | g4 g g | g4 g g | g4 g g | > > m4/4/0/6 g g g g | g g g g | g g g g | g g g g > > See pmx docs, section 2.1 for printed meter syms > > Bye > -- > Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer > Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital > of Aarhus > Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark > Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] A meter change to C
Hi All, I have to change meter in the middle of the piece to C. With my current knowledge I can only do m2/2/2/2 (in all voices). All attempts to do something like mC/C or m2/2/C, etc, fail. Please help if it's really possible. Thank you in advance Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] basic question
Hi All
"Cornelius C. Noack" wrote:
> > Really much reason. If you like to bring a normal polygraphic look to a
> > large bulk of scores, you will have to reinvent many wheels with TeX.
> >
> > Alexander
> > ___
> I also find LaTeX (instead of plain TeX) quite useful for a lot of
> things, e.g. using other fonts, getting a page layout suitable to your
> own purposes (different size paper, e.g.), etc etc.
>
> But to run musixtex I think it a MUST to enclose the musixtex source
> (essentially) in a LaTeX environment
> \begin{music} <... musicxtex source ...> \end{music}
:-) Before I learned about these braces, I managed to do some simple mtx
to latex embedding just by (e.g.):
\documentclass[12pt,twoside]{article}
\usepackage[textwidth=7in,textheight=10.2in,left=10mm,top=20mm]{geometry}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\usepackage{graphics}
\def\nopagenumbers{}
\def\bye{}
\pagestyle{fancy}
%\addtolength{\headwidth}{10mm}
\fancyhead[RO,LE]{\thepage}
\chead[YY:]{Z}
\cfoot{}
\begin{document}
\thispagestyle{empty}
\input
\end{document}
Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] basic question
Hi Don Don Simons wrote: > I didn't find this particular file in the musixtex examples, so I can't > comment on it specifically. But most musixtex files do not use latex. > Personally I've never used it with musixtex, haven't even tried. I > thought some people have said that TeX doesn't even have the capacity to > let MusiXTeX and latex coexist, although your experience seems to > contradict that. Is there any particular reason you didn't just use plain > tex on the original file? Really much reason. If you like to bring a normal polygraphic look to a large bulk of scores, you will have to reinvent many wheels with TeX. Alexander ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript->gif
"Alexander V. Voinov" wrote:
> def process_pmx(basename, opcodes = ['jpeg']):
> os.system("/home/httpd/cgi-bin/pmx2dvi.sh %s 2>/dev/null 1>&2" %
> basename)
> if 'jpeg' in opcodes:
> os.system("dvips -T96mm,25mm -D120dpi -O 0mm,-18mm -o %s.ps
> %s.dvi; "
> "gs -dTextAlphaBits=4 -sDEVICE=ppmraw -r120x120
> -sOutputFile=%s.ppm "
> "-dNOPAUSE -dQUIET %s.ps -c quit 1>&2;"
> " cat %s.ppm | /usr/local/bin/ppmtojpeg >%s.jpg" %
> (basename, basename, basename, basename, basename, basename))
Lines are wrapped as usuall, but the wrap point are where the
indentation is broken, clearly seen.
Alexander
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript->gif
Hi All,
(BTW I'm checking reply-to-all, looks like working)
Please see the following page:
http://www.sobor.org/cgi-bin/genexample.py
Though it's in Russian, you may safely follow all followable links,
nothing harmful.
It uses PMX->MusixTeX->dvi->ps->ppm+antialiasing->jpg. uff...
The corresponding snippet of the program is:
def process_pmx(basename, opcodes = ['jpeg']):
os.system("/home/httpd/cgi-bin/pmx2dvi.sh %s 2>/dev/null 1>&2" %
basename)
if 'jpeg' in opcodes:
os.system("dvips -T96mm,25mm -D120dpi -O 0mm,-18mm -o %s.ps
%s.dvi; "
"gs -dTextAlphaBits=4 -sDEVICE=ppmraw -r120x120
-sOutputFile=%s.ppm "
"-dNOPAUSE -dQUIET %s.ps -c quit 1>&2;"
" cat %s.ppm | /usr/local/bin/ppmtojpeg >%s.jpg" %
(basename, basename, basename, basename, basename, basename))
I think everybody here can expand pmx2dvi.sh for themselves :-)
The _keyword_ is -dTextAlphaBits=4, that's all I know, thanks those who
advised me this.
BWR
Alexander
Christian Mondrup wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the many proposals which I'll study further when I return in
> a few days from a vacation. As I wrote in my request for proposals I'm a
> computer graphics ignorant. Would one of those in the know please give me a
> short explanation of the meaning of the term 'antialiasing'? not necessarily to
> the list. My intuition doesn't suffice to imagine what it actually means. What
> is alias (nome de guerre/nickname) for what ?
>
> Karl-Heinz Herrmann wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 09-Apr-01 Arjen Bax wrote:
> > > By coincidence I stumbled upon Greg Roelofs' & Jef Poskanzer's pngquant
> > > tool, to reduce the number of used colors in a png image. If you
> > > 'convert' (ImageMagick) to png instead of gif (IMHO also recommended
> > > because of the gif patent issue) this might be the right tool to use.
> > >
> > > Homepage: http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/apps/pngquant.html.
> >
> > Interesting tool. Thanks for the link.
> >
> > > It compiled OOTB on my Win98 PC with Cygwin.
> >
> > Linux binary runs nicely too.
> >
> > I did another testround and found the reason for the large gif files: They
> > are multipage. gimp 1.2 in layer dialog showed all 5 pages of the ps file in
> > the 120kB. gif was produced with:
> > convert donna.ps donna.gif
> >
> > netscape is doing an animation and stops at the last page.
> >
> > gif and png produced like this contain about 66 colors. the png filesize ist
> > at 18kB for the png, pngquant down to 8 colors reduces the size to 13kB, no
> > apparent quality loss in my eyes. The default resolution of convert is 72,
> > which is somewhat low to read them.
> >
> > convert -density 100x100 +adjoin donna.ps donna.gif
> > will produce one gif file for every page, size is 39kB. again -color 8 does
> > not change the filesize significantly, so xv shows only 8 colors.
> > png files are about the same size, pngquant reduces the files to 22kB (8
> > colors).
> >
> > so this would be the scriptable solution for small antialiased png files:
> >
> > [loop construct like "for file in *.ps ; do" for bash]
> >
> > convert $file `basename $file .ps`.png
> > mv `basename $file .ps`.png.0 `basename $file .ps`.png
> > pngquant 8 `basename $file .ps`.png
> > rm `basename $file .ps`.png*
> >
> > [loop end, "done" in bash]
> >
> > K.-H.
> >
> >
> > E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg7/FestFluGre/transport/khh/general.html
> > Sent: 09-Apr-01, 15:17:44
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Re: [TeX-music] Reply to sender or list?
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