RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck
Is Linda describing you or the truck, Allan? J Mark From: Linda Palit mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:20 AM To: Cavers Texas mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma. 180,000 miles. Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little, suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but... Contact me off list if interested. $4000 Linda No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6496 - Release Date: 07/16/13
RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck
Is Linda describing you or the truck, Allan? J Mark From: Linda Palit mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:20 AM To: Cavers Texas mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma. 180,000 miles. Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little, suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but... Contact me off list if interested. $4000 Linda No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6496 - Release Date: 07/16/13
RE: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck
Is Linda describing you or the truck, Allan? J Mark From: Linda Palit mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:20 AM To: Cavers Texas mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Off Topic-caver Truck Offering my truck to CAVERS first--2000 Toyota Tacoma. 180,000 miles. Maintained but time for a bunch of work- clutch slipping a little, suspension needs some work, etc,etc. nothing huge, but... Contact me off list if interested. $4000 Linda No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6496 - Release Date: 07/16/13
Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns
How's it work underground?! J Mark Alman From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Steve Peerman Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:59 PM To: Lee H. Skinner Cc: SWR Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns Lee, And from the Las Cruces newspaper: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_23581010/google-maps-crew-f inds -unique-challenges-mapping-carlsbad Funny, I always depend on my GPS when I'm caving . . . :) ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns
How's it work underground?! J Mark Alman From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Steve Peerman Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:59 PM To: Lee H. Skinner Cc: SWR Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns Lee, And from the Las Cruces newspaper: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_23581010/google-maps-crew-f inds -unique-challenges-mapping-carlsbad Funny, I always depend on my GPS when I'm caving . . . :) ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns
How's it work underground?! J Mark Alman From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Steve Peerman Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:59 PM To: Lee H. Skinner Cc: SWR Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Google Street View in Carlsbad Caverns Lee, And from the Las Cruces newspaper: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_23581010/google-maps-crew-f inds -unique-challenges-mapping-carlsbad Funny, I always depend on my GPS when I'm caving . . . :) ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
RE: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th
Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
RE: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th
Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
RE: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th
Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair
RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave
Thanks for the interesting post, George. I do have one question, though, and I am NOT picking sides here: What's the difference between houses 800 to 900 yards away from the Bracken Cave entrance and bats living under the Congress Street Bridge in Austin, smack dab in the middle of downtown Austin? The Austin colony seems to be functioning fine and thriving, may I say, growing? And the buildings (read high rises) are much closer than 800 to 900 yards. Just playing dumb here, so please don't advocate having me drawn and quartered and left in a pile of guano! Inquiring minds just want to know. Your thoughts? (I'm ducking under a table now) Mark Alman (not Minton) J From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:09 PM To: Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave http://www.kens5.com/news/Bracken-Bat-Cave-vs-Crescent-Hills--208381441. html For more information and to learn how to help, go to http://www.batcon.org/index.php/media-and-info/latest-news/714-save-brac ken-cave-reserve.html?utm_campaign=educationutm_source=externalutm_med ium=redirect. San Antonio City Council will meet to discuss and decide on this issue in one week. Sign the on-line petition but if you have time, remember that your letters and e-mails will have much greater impact, especially if received before the meeting on the 29th so the mayor, councilors, and their staff have time to read or at least review them. If you live in the San Antonio, your physical presence at the council meeting is also important. Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org
RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave
Thanks for the interesting post, George. I do have one question, though, and I am NOT picking sides here: What's the difference between houses 800 to 900 yards away from the Bracken Cave entrance and bats living under the Congress Street Bridge in Austin, smack dab in the middle of downtown Austin? The Austin colony seems to be functioning fine and thriving, may I say, growing? And the buildings (read high rises) are much closer than 800 to 900 yards. Just playing dumb here, so please don't advocate having me drawn and quartered and left in a pile of guano! Inquiring minds just want to know. Your thoughts? (I'm ducking under a table now) Mark Alman (not Minton) J From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:09 PM To: Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave http://www.kens5.com/news/Bracken-Bat-Cave-vs-Crescent-Hills--208381441. html For more information and to learn how to help, go to http://www.batcon.org/index.php/media-and-info/latest-news/714-save-brac ken-cave-reserve.html?utm_campaign=educationutm_source=externalutm_med ium=redirect. San Antonio City Council will meet to discuss and decide on this issue in one week. Sign the on-line petition but if you have time, remember that your letters and e-mails will have much greater impact, especially if received before the meeting on the 29th so the mayor, councilors, and their staff have time to read or at least review them. If you live in the San Antonio, your physical presence at the council meeting is also important. Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave
Very true, George. I hadn't thought of that. Mark From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:31 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP; Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave Mark, That's a good and fair question. It also ties more into biology so I'll defer to Jim Kennedy to answer more authoritatively than I can as a hydrogeologist. However, in the comments I sent to the San Antonio City Council I pointed out that the high-density development is also over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Such developments have been demonstrated to diminish the volume of water replenishing the region's primary water supply as well as having a much greater risk of degrading the quality of the water. While bats are getting the emphasis, this type of development is also bad for people who rely on the Edwards. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:15 PM To: George Veni; Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave Thanks for the interesting post, George. I do have one question, though, and I am NOT picking sides here: What's the difference between houses 800 to 900 yards away from the Bracken Cave entrance and bats living under the Congress Street Bridge in Austin, smack dab in the middle of downtown Austin? The Austin colony seems to be functioning fine and thriving, may I say, growing? And the buildings (read high rises) are much closer than 800 to 900 yards. Just playing dumb here, so please don't advocate having me drawn and quartered and left in a pile of guano! Inquiring minds just want to know. Your thoughts? (I'm ducking under a table now) Mark Alman (not Minton) J From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:09 PM To: Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave http://www.kens5.com/news/Bracken-Bat-Cave-vs-Crescent-Hills--208381441. html For more information and to learn how to help, go to http://www.batcon.org/index.php/media-and-info/latest-news/714-save-brac ken-cave-reserve.html?utm_campaign=educationutm_source=externalutm_med ium=redirect. San Antonio City Council will meet to discuss and decide on this issue in one week. Sign the on-line petition but if you have time, remember that your letters and e-mails will have much greater impact, especially if received before the meeting on the 29th so the mayor, councilors, and their staff have time to read or at least review them. If you live in the San Antonio, your physical presence at the council meeting is also important. Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave
Thanks for the interesting post, George. I do have one question, though, and I am NOT picking sides here: What's the difference between houses 800 to 900 yards away from the Bracken Cave entrance and bats living under the Congress Street Bridge in Austin, smack dab in the middle of downtown Austin? The Austin colony seems to be functioning fine and thriving, may I say, growing? And the buildings (read high rises) are much closer than 800 to 900 yards. Just playing dumb here, so please don't advocate having me drawn and quartered and left in a pile of guano! Inquiring minds just want to know. Your thoughts? (I'm ducking under a table now) Mark Alman (not Minton) J From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:09 PM To: Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave http://www.kens5.com/news/Bracken-Bat-Cave-vs-Crescent-Hills--208381441. html For more information and to learn how to help, go to http://www.batcon.org/index.php/media-and-info/latest-news/714-save-brac ken-cave-reserve.html?utm_campaign=educationutm_source=externalutm_med ium=redirect. San Antonio City Council will meet to discuss and decide on this issue in one week. Sign the on-line petition but if you have time, remember that your letters and e-mails will have much greater impact, especially if received before the meeting on the 29th so the mayor, councilors, and their staff have time to read or at least review them. If you live in the San Antonio, your physical presence at the council meeting is also important. Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave
Very true, George. I hadn't thought of that. Mark From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:31 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP; Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave Mark, That's a good and fair question. It also ties more into biology so I'll defer to Jim Kennedy to answer more authoritatively than I can as a hydrogeologist. However, in the comments I sent to the San Antonio City Council I pointed out that the high-density development is also over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. Such developments have been demonstrated to diminish the volume of water replenishing the region's primary water supply as well as having a much greater risk of degrading the quality of the water. While bats are getting the emphasis, this type of development is also bad for people who rely on the Edwards. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:15 PM To: George Veni; Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave Thanks for the interesting post, George. I do have one question, though, and I am NOT picking sides here: What's the difference between houses 800 to 900 yards away from the Bracken Cave entrance and bats living under the Congress Street Bridge in Austin, smack dab in the middle of downtown Austin? The Austin colony seems to be functioning fine and thriving, may I say, growing? And the buildings (read high rises) are much closer than 800 to 900 yards. Just playing dumb here, so please don't advocate having me drawn and quartered and left in a pile of guano! Inquiring minds just want to know. Your thoughts? (I'm ducking under a table now) Mark Alman (not Minton) J From: George Veni [mailto:gv...@nckri.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:09 PM To: Texas Cavers; New Mexico Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] News report on threat to Bracken Bat Cave http://www.kens5.com/news/Bracken-Bat-Cave-vs-Crescent-Hills--208381441. html For more information and to learn how to help, go to http://www.batcon.org/index.php/media-and-info/latest-news/714-save-brac ken-cave-reserve.html?utm_campaign=educationutm_source=externalutm_med ium=redirect. San Antonio City Council will meet to discuss and decide on this issue in one week. Sign the on-line petition but if you have time, remember that your letters and e-mails will have much greater impact, especially if received before the meeting on the 29th so the mayor, councilors, and their staff have time to read or at least review them. If you live in the San Antonio, your physical presence at the council meeting is also important. Please share this message with anyone you think may be interested. George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
RE: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
How long until the signs start getting stolen? Colorado had a highway with the same number going west out of Durango in the SW corner of the state in the early 2000's. Signs kept getting stolen. Number change soon afterwards. It'll happen here, too. :} Mark From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:58 AM To: David Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69 It's supposed to go to the Rio Grande Valley, not Laredo--well, maybe a branch to Laredo. But the primary destination is supposed to be the Pharr Bridge. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I was driving in northeast Houston today, ( which is an area of town a tourist should avoid ), and the old US Hwy 59, is now marked I-69 north of Loop 610, at least to the northern edge of Harris County. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69 While this is currently totally irrelevant, east Texas cavers will someday ( in 10 years ? ) take I-69 to go caving in Arkansas, Indiana, or to Bustamante, N.L., Mexico. The last time I was south of Houston on Hwy. 59, the signs still read Future I-69 I am not aware of any ongoing highway construction anywhere along this route. I have not been to Laredo in a year, but I bet very soon, you will see signage or new roads related to Interstate 69. David Locklear Ref: http://www.i69texasalliance.com/news.html
RE: [Texascavers] Interstate 69
How long until the signs start getting stolen? Colorado had a highway with the same number going west out of Durango in the SW corner of the state in the early 2000's. Signs kept getting stolen. Number change soon afterwards. It'll happen here, too. :} Mark From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:58 AM To: David Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Interstate 69 It's supposed to go to the Rio Grande Valley, not Laredo--well, maybe a branch to Laredo. But the primary destination is supposed to be the Pharr Bridge. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I was driving in northeast Houston today, ( which is an area of town a tourist should avoid ), and the old US Hwy 59, is now marked I-69 north of Loop 610, at least to the northern edge of Harris County. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_69 While this is currently totally irrelevant, east Texas cavers will someday ( in 10 years ? ) take I-69 to go caving in Arkansas, Indiana, or to Bustamante, N.L., Mexico. The last time I was south of Houston on Hwy. 59, the signs still read Future I-69 I am not aware of any ongoing highway construction anywhere along this route. I have not been to Laredo in a year, but I bet very soon, you will see signage or new roads related to Interstate 69. David Locklear Ref: http://www.i69texasalliance.com/news.html
[Texascavers] Wild Caving in Austin Area
Anyone in the Austin area interested in helping these folks out, maybe, with Whirlpool? Please contact me off line, if so. Thanks! Mark From: Mark Alman [mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:48 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Subject: Fw: Wild Caving in Austin Area Hello, I met Mark Alman at a BSA training event, and I really enjoyed hearing about the caving opportunities here in Texas. Our BSA Venturing Crew is going to the Austin area and then to the coast this summer for their High Adventure, and they are very interested in a Wild Caving experience. They looked into a wild caving tour at Natural Bridge Caverns, but it is only for small groups and we will have around 15 people. The boys are not at all interested in the public tour – they want to “get dirty”. They are ages 14-18 and are a very active and responsible group. Do you have any suggestions for a wild caving experience in the Austin area, or between Austin and the DFW area? Any suggestions you could provide would be much appreciated! Thanks, Marc Pyne COR Crew 104
[Texascavers] Wild Caving in Austin Area
Anyone in the Austin area interested in helping these folks out, maybe, with Whirlpool? Please contact me off line, if so. Thanks! Mark From: Mark Alman [mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:48 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Subject: Fw: Wild Caving in Austin Area Hello, I met Mark Alman at a BSA training event, and I really enjoyed hearing about the caving opportunities here in Texas. Our BSA Venturing Crew is going to the Austin area and then to the coast this summer for their High Adventure, and they are very interested in a Wild Caving experience. They looked into a wild caving tour at Natural Bridge Caverns, but it is only for small groups and we will have around 15 people. The boys are not at all interested in the public tour – they want to “get dirty”. They are ages 14-18 and are a very active and responsible group. Do you have any suggestions for a wild caving experience in the Austin area, or between Austin and the DFW area? Any suggestions you could provide would be much appreciated! Thanks, Marc Pyne COR Crew 104
[Texascavers] Wild Caving in Austin Area
Anyone in the Austin area interested in helping these folks out, maybe, with Whirlpool? Please contact me off line, if so. Thanks! Mark From: Mark Alman [mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:48 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Subject: Fw: Wild Caving in Austin Area Hello, I met Mark Alman at a BSA training event, and I really enjoyed hearing about the caving opportunities here in Texas. Our BSA Venturing Crew is going to the Austin area and then to the coast this summer for their High Adventure, and they are very interested in a Wild Caving experience. They looked into a wild caving tour at Natural Bridge Caverns, but it is only for small groups and we will have around 15 people. The boys are not at all interested in the public tour – they want to “get dirty”. They are ages 14-18 and are a very active and responsible group. Do you have any suggestions for a wild caving experience in the Austin area, or between Austin and the DFW area? Any suggestions you could provide would be much appreciated! Thanks, Marc Pyne COR Crew 104
RE: [Texascavers] Argh...here we go again
Good luck, Karen! Mark From: Karen Perry [mailto:txcavem...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:00 PM To: Phil Sanders; pecos-valley-gro...@googlegroups.com; texascavers@texascavers.com; south region; Chris Jackson; Gail Jackson; David Bunnell; Edward Rowland; Emily Ficker; Gosia Kosior; Ingrid kelly; RD Milhollin; ut_h.sapi...@yahoo.com; utcac...@yahoo.com; Bill - WRES Weston Subject: [Texascavers] Argh...here we go again On Thursday May 16 I will have a 3rd surgery on the right knee. This time a different doctor and hospital, will be in Artesia. Karen
RE: [Texascavers] Argh...here we go again
Good luck, Karen! Mark From: Karen Perry [mailto:txcavem...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:00 PM To: Phil Sanders; pecos-valley-gro...@googlegroups.com; texascavers@texascavers.com; south region; Chris Jackson; Gail Jackson; David Bunnell; Edward Rowland; Emily Ficker; Gosia Kosior; Ingrid kelly; RD Milhollin; ut_h.sapi...@yahoo.com; utcac...@yahoo.com; Bill - WRES Weston Subject: [Texascavers] Argh...here we go again On Thursday May 16 I will have a 3rd surgery on the right knee. This time a different doctor and hospital, will be in Artesia. Karen
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month!
Re: [DFWgrotto] [Texascavers] RE: Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Really? Mark From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:59 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: John Brooks; texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... It is April Fools day Mark. Sent cellularly. -Don On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald
[DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
(Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can't make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn't help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month!
Re: [DFWgrotto] [Texascavers] RE: Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Really? Mark From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:59 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: John Brooks; texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... It is April Fools day Mark. Sent cellularly. -Don On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org ___ DFWgrotto mailing list dfwgro...@dfwgrotto.org http://dfwgrotto.org/mailman/listinfo/dfwgrotto_dfwgrotto.org
Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don’t take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring ‘em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month!
Re: [DFWgrotto] [Texascavers] RE: Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Really? Mark From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:59 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: John Brooks; texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... It is April Fools day Mark. Sent cellularly. -Don On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Huh? Channel 5, at least here in Dallas where you and I live, is NBC. Channel 4 is Fox. Time to wake up and/or sober up, John! J Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:49 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Just proves you just can't trust FOX News anymore Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:26 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Have you been smokin’ something, John, or it this an appropriate “story”, given today’s date? Just talked to ‘em and they laughed and said they wish. Got enough to wet the ground and the cave and the area above it are, fortunately/unfortunately, still dry as bone. Project is still on for this weekend. Thanks, Mark From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:39 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com; Metroplexcavers; DFWgrotto Subject: Re: [DFWgrotto] Go to the TSA Spring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't... Channel 5 is reporting that Longhorn Caverns completely flooded during this weekends storms. Probably best to cancel and attend the TSA Convention. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:08 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: (Last reminder, thankfully! Sheesh!) Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can’t make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn’t help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you’d like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don’t freak out! It’s not some “One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water” conspiracy!). It’s not that big of a deal! It’s just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what’s available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald
RE: [Texascavers] Thank you.
Good luck, Monica! We're pulling for you! Mark Alman From: Espeleo Coahuila [mailto:espeleocoahu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:34 PM To: TSA Cavers; texasca...@texascaver.com; Mark Alman Subject: [Texascavers] Thank you. Hi friends.. I want to dedicate this month by all of you! You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver family! I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life. Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments I had 3 years with out cancer, the next week I have the next appointment with the doctor and the next year possible finish the treatment. wiht your love I can do it!!! Thank you! Love you. Moni. -- LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora) Associazione Geografica La Venta- Italia (socia) Centro de Estudios Karsticos La Venta (socia) Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia) Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora) Texas Speleological Association (Socia) Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia) 045-844-1478311 cel. monicaponce1 by skype.
RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Gawd, let's hope not, Stefan! The move to a two way membership (cheaper for online TEXAS CAVER. Higher for mailed version), IMHO, probably saved the TSA and kept it solvent. The NSS needs to do this. I would have no problem with an online (cheaper) option. I read 'em once and then they go on the shelf. I'm not that attached to printed material. Mark (TSA Chairman at the time) From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:31 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the same? ;-) Cheers, Stefan From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/ Phil On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote: FYI to Texas Cavers: There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday's NSS Board of Governor's meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught the NSS Editor by surprise (he hadn't be informed of the pending proposal). For more info, consult an NSS BOG member. Frank NSS 10816F -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
RE: [Texascavers] Thank you.
Good luck, Monica! We're pulling for you! Mark Alman From: Espeleo Coahuila [mailto:espeleocoahu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:34 PM To: TSA Cavers; texasca...@texascaver.com; Mark Alman Subject: [Texascavers] Thank you. Hi friends.. I want to dedicate this month by all of you! You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver family! I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life. Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments I had 3 years with out cancer, the next week I have the next appointment with the doctor and the next year possible finish the treatment. wiht your love I can do it!!! Thank you! Love you. Moni. -- LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora) Associazione Geografica La Venta- Italia (socia) Centro de Estudios Karsticos La Venta (socia) Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia) Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora) Texas Speleological Association (Socia) Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia) 045-844-1478311 cel. monicaponce1 by skype.
RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Gawd, let's hope not, Stefan! The move to a two way membership (cheaper for online TEXAS CAVER. Higher for mailed version), IMHO, probably saved the TSA and kept it solvent. The NSS needs to do this. I would have no problem with an online (cheaper) option. I read 'em once and then they go on the shelf. I'm not that attached to printed material. Mark (TSA Chairman at the time) From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:31 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the same? ;-) Cheers, Stefan From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/ Phil On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote: FYI to Texas Cavers: There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday's NSS Board of Governor's meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught the NSS Editor by surprise (he hadn't be informed of the pending proposal). For more info, consult an NSS BOG member. Frank NSS 10816F -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
RE: [Texascavers] Thank you.
Good luck, Monica! We're pulling for you! Mark Alman From: Espeleo Coahuila [mailto:espeleocoahu...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:34 PM To: TSA Cavers; texasca...@texascaver.com; Mark Alman Subject: [Texascavers] Thank you. Hi friends.. I want to dedicate this month by all of you! You are my family and I'm a very lucky to have a wonderful texas caver family! I don't want to forget, that you are very important in my life. Thanks for help me and support me in all my Cancer treatments I had 3 years with out cancer, the next week I have the next appointment with the doctor and the next year possible finish the treatment. wiht your love I can do it!!! Thank you! Love you. Moni. -- LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora) Associazione Geografica La Venta- Italia (socia) Centro de Estudios Karsticos La Venta (socia) Grupo Espeleologico Vaxakmen, A.C. (socia) Association for Mexican Cave Studies (colaboradora) Texas Speleological Association (Socia) Union Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleologicas (Socia) 045-844-1478311 cel. monicaponce1 by skype.
RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News
Gawd, let's hope not, Stefan! The move to a two way membership (cheaper for online TEXAS CAVER. Higher for mailed version), IMHO, probably saved the TSA and kept it solvent. The NSS needs to do this. I would have no problem with an online (cheaper) option. I read 'em once and then they go on the shelf. I'm not that attached to printed material. Mark (TSA Chairman at the time) From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:31 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Wonder if this one'll drag on as long as the TSA newsletter discussion of the same? ;-) Cheers, Stefan From: Phil Winkler [mailto:pw...@dca.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:16 PM To: Frank Binney Cc: Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] BOG proposal to end printed NSS News Read all about it in the March 23 BOG Meeting topic: http://cavechat.org/ Phil On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Frank Binney wrote: FYI to Texas Cavers: There is apparently a proposal being presented at this Saturday's NSS Board of Governor's meeting to end delivery of the printed NSS News as part of your regular NSS membership. This news has generated considerable recent comment on the Western US caving lists, and has caught the NSS Editor by surprise (he hadn't be informed of the pending proposal). For more info, consult an NSS BOG member. Frank NSS 10816F -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
[Texascavers] Go to the TSA SPring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can't make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn't help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Go to the TSA SPring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can't make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn't help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Go to the TSA SPring Convention at CWAN, Saturday, April 6th! BUT, if you don't...
Come on out to the next Longhorn Caverns State Park Project weekend! (I can't make it out to the Convention this year, as I committed to a Scout group months ago to be at the Longhorn Caverns SP Project in April, which WILL be occurring. Sorry. Couldn't help it!) We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, April 6th. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them, as well as had gloves and work gloves. Work in the morning, caving in the afternoon! This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! If you decide to attend, please let me know so that I can give you the gate combo and other info! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes
. Matt Turner said it’s silly to have so many cave organizations in Texas. Jim talked about old ways that the organizations were run, and how the current ones are doing better. LeeJay said it’s a responsibility of the leaders to build up their organization. Matt mentioned that there are a lot of “fun-time cavers” who want to cave, but not help with the organization. Agreed! Other than that, great job, y’all, and glad to see that the TSA is doing so well and in the black. (A HUGE hand to Michael for this, as well! I didn’t see his name mentioned and it should be in 3” headlines. Being the throttle and “financial conscience” of an organization is a tough job where you make no friends when you make difficult monetary decisions and I applaud him for his continued excellent service over the years!). Keep up the hard work, y’all! Thanks, Mark Alman – retired TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:55 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes Sorry it took so long to get this out to everyone! -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto TSA Secretary Membership Chair NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
RE: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes
. Matt Turner said it’s silly to have so many cave organizations in Texas. Jim talked about old ways that the organizations were run, and how the current ones are doing better. LeeJay said it’s a responsibility of the leaders to build up their organization. Matt mentioned that there are a lot of “fun-time cavers” who want to cave, but not help with the organization. Agreed! Other than that, great job, y’all, and glad to see that the TSA is doing so well and in the black. (A HUGE hand to Michael for this, as well! I didn’t see his name mentioned and it should be in 3” headlines. Being the throttle and “financial conscience” of an organization is a tough job where you make no friends when you make difficult monetary decisions and I applaud him for his continued excellent service over the years!). Keep up the hard work, y’all! Thanks, Mark Alman – retired TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:55 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes Sorry it took so long to get this out to everyone! -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto TSA Secretary Membership Chair NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
RE: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes
. Matt Turner said it’s silly to have so many cave organizations in Texas. Jim talked about old ways that the organizations were run, and how the current ones are doing better. LeeJay said it’s a responsibility of the leaders to build up their organization. Matt mentioned that there are a lot of “fun-time cavers” who want to cave, but not help with the organization. Agreed! Other than that, great job, y’all, and glad to see that the TSA is doing so well and in the black. (A HUGE hand to Michael for this, as well! I didn’t see his name mentioned and it should be in 3” headlines. Being the throttle and “financial conscience” of an organization is a tough job where you make no friends when you make difficult monetary decisions and I applaud him for his continued excellent service over the years!). Keep up the hard work, y’all! Thanks, Mark Alman – retired TSA Chairman and TEXAS CAVER Editor From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:55 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] TSA Winter business meeting minutes Sorry it took so long to get this out to everyone! -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto TSA Secretary Membership Chair NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
RE: [Texascavers] New Texas Caver!!!
Congratulations to you and your wife, GP! Mark From: George-Paul Richmann [mailto:gprichm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:59 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; Jennifer Richmann Subject: [Texascavers] New Texas Caver!!! It is my pleasure to introduce the newest in Texas Cavers from Ohio currently living in Ohio: George Augustus 'Gus' Richmann was born at 1:55 PM this last Sunday. At 7 lbs. 3 oz. and 19 inches long he should be pretty good at pushing leads; however, Jen is emphatic that it will be many years before he sees another 'birth canal'. Both Gus and Mom are doing very well for being three days old at their respective roles. Warm regards from Ohio, Jen, Gus and GP Richmann -- George-Paul Richmann (513) 490-3100 tel:%28513%29%20490-3100 gprichm...@gmail.com
[Texascavers] Reminder! - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- This Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to remind you about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 this coming Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (large tarps, shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Reminder! - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- This Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to remind you about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 this coming Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (large tarps, shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Reminder! - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- This Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to remind you about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 this coming Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. Bring cash or a check, as they don't take credit or debit cards! If you have hand tools (large tarps, shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to let you know about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to let you know about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, March 2nd!
This just an announcement to let you know about the next Longhorn Caverns Project weekend. We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, March 2nd. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave, and maybe even try to work in some ridge walking. If you'd like to volunteer, TPWD is requesting that you register as a volunteer at: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper system. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! · The usual gathering at Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls Saturday night. If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! We'll even try to make sure we don't accidentally lock you in afterwards! J Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed
Thanks for the update, Mike. Could I make one other suggestion:? Please publish the names of past and future violators. A bit of public shame and humiliation may go a long way to getting the situation under control. (Plus, we'll know who to personally thank for the new set of restrictions!). Just my 1/50th of a dollar, Send me a SASE if you'd like a refund. Mark Alman -Original Message- From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:25 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed A few months ago I announced that Beck Ranch Cave was closed. We had cavers that went into the cave without permission and one group was detained by the Sheriff. Other caver related factors contributed to the closure. Since the closure, security efforts including a Home Owners Association Patrol, electronic and other security activities has been started. PLEASE DO NOT GO INTO BECK RANCH CAVE. If you are observed within the fence or in the cave YOU WILL BE ARRESTED. The Texas Cave Conservancy will host our TCC Winter Conference February 22-24 in the Cedar Park Texas area. We have caves there that you will be able to visit. The owner of Beck Ranch Cave is holding an event that same weekend and they will be out in the field. They know that we are hosting our event in Cedar Park and have asked the Sheriff to provide an extra patrol at the parking area and around the cave. It is painful to have to send this message out, however, I feel that I owe the Texas Caving community this notice- to give them a chance to decide if a trespass trip is worth the effort. Please spread word of this message to other cavers. Come on out and have fun at the TCC Winter Conference. Thank you for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh-President TCC - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed
Thanks for the update, Mike. Could I make one other suggestion:? Please publish the names of past and future violators. A bit of public shame and humiliation may go a long way to getting the situation under control. (Plus, we'll know who to personally thank for the new set of restrictions!). Just my 1/50th of a dollar, Send me a SASE if you'd like a refund. Mark Alman -Original Message- From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:25 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed A few months ago I announced that Beck Ranch Cave was closed. We had cavers that went into the cave without permission and one group was detained by the Sheriff. Other caver related factors contributed to the closure. Since the closure, security efforts including a Home Owners Association Patrol, electronic and other security activities has been started. PLEASE DO NOT GO INTO BECK RANCH CAVE. If you are observed within the fence or in the cave YOU WILL BE ARRESTED. The Texas Cave Conservancy will host our TCC Winter Conference February 22-24 in the Cedar Park Texas area. We have caves there that you will be able to visit. The owner of Beck Ranch Cave is holding an event that same weekend and they will be out in the field. They know that we are hosting our event in Cedar Park and have asked the Sheriff to provide an extra patrol at the parking area and around the cave. It is painful to have to send this message out, however, I feel that I owe the Texas Caving community this notice- to give them a chance to decide if a trespass trip is worth the effort. Please spread word of this message to other cavers. Come on out and have fun at the TCC Winter Conference. Thank you for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh-President TCC - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed
Thanks for the update, Mike. Could I make one other suggestion:? Please publish the names of past and future violators. A bit of public shame and humiliation may go a long way to getting the situation under control. (Plus, we'll know who to personally thank for the new set of restrictions!). Just my 1/50th of a dollar, Send me a SASE if you'd like a refund. Mark Alman -Original Message- From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:25 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Closed A few months ago I announced that Beck Ranch Cave was closed. We had cavers that went into the cave without permission and one group was detained by the Sheriff. Other caver related factors contributed to the closure. Since the closure, security efforts including a Home Owners Association Patrol, electronic and other security activities has been started. PLEASE DO NOT GO INTO BECK RANCH CAVE. If you are observed within the fence or in the cave YOU WILL BE ARRESTED. The Texas Cave Conservancy will host our TCC Winter Conference February 22-24 in the Cedar Park Texas area. We have caves there that you will be able to visit. The owner of Beck Ranch Cave is holding an event that same weekend and they will be out in the field. They know that we are hosting our event in Cedar Park and have asked the Sheriff to provide an extra patrol at the parking area and around the cave. It is painful to have to send this message out, however, I feel that I owe the Texas Caving community this notice- to give them a chance to decide if a trespass trip is worth the effort. Please spread word of this message to other cavers. Come on out and have fun at the TCC Winter Conference. Thank you for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh-President TCC - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] REMINDER - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Finally, the TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water/Birth certificate type of conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Please go to http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ to sign up. All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next weekend! Thanks! Mark
[Allcavers] REMINDER - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Finally, the TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water/Birth certificate type of conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Please go to http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ to sign up. All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next weekend! Thanks! Mark ___ To Subscribe to this list send a blank message to: allcavers-subscr...@metroplexcavers.org To Unsubscribe send a blank message to: allcavers-unsubscr...@metroplexcavers.org
[Texascavers] REMINDER - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Finally, the TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water/Birth certificate type of conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Please go to http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ to sign up. All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next weekend! Thanks! Mark
[Allcavers] REMINDER - Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Finally, the TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water/Birth certificate type of conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Please go to http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ to sign up. All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next weekend! Thanks! Mark ___ To Subscribe to this list send a blank message to: allcavers-subscr...@metroplexcavers.org To Unsubscribe send a blank message to: allcavers-unsubscr...@metroplexcavers.org
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
Very, very nice job on this issue of the TC, Jill! Enjoyed it immensely and Linda's interview with Pete Strickland was highly entertaining! For those of you who aren't TSA members, Jill's superb work on the TEXAS CAVER is reason enough to join! Keep up the great work! Mark From: Jill Orr jill...@swbell.net To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:10 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Caver TSA members: The Q4 issue of the Texas Caver is available on line. Thanks to all who supported the magazine this issue with Stories, Photos and Proofing. If you have photos or stories for the next issue: Don’t Wait! Send them in. Happy Caving. Jill http://www.cavetexas.org/members/txcaver/index.php
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver
Very, very nice job on this issue of the TC, Jill! Enjoyed it immensely and Linda's interview with Pete Strickland was highly entertaining! For those of you who aren't TSA members, Jill's superb work on the TEXAS CAVER is reason enough to join! Keep up the great work! Mark From: Jill Orr jill...@swbell.net To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:10 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Caver TSA members: The Q4 issue of the Texas Caver is available on line. Thanks to all who supported the magazine this issue with Stories, Photos and Proofing. If you have photos or stories for the next issue: Don’t Wait! Send them in. Happy Caving. Jill http://www.cavetexas.org/members/txcaver/index.php
RE: [Texascavers] Gravity-powered LEDs.
Details! :) Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:20 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Gravity-powered LEDs. The only problem is that the light would be at the top of the drop while the caver is on the bottom! Mark At 10:53 AM 1/17/2013, Ted Samsel wrote: And at the end of the abseil/rappel, sunt lux! http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/01/kerosene-lamps-face-gravity-powe red-usurper/ Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Kyle brings up a good point and one that I neglected to mention. TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Thanks for the heads up, Kyle! Mark From: Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W Burnet, Texas 78611 cell 512-636-6206 just one more cast, dad LIndsey Rodgers From: Kyle Leonard [mailto:kyl.leon...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:40 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd! Hi Mark, Is TPWD still requiring that all volunteers register online with the state? I plan on bringing a good amount of Aggies your way and hope we can be of useful service. Thanks, Kyle Leonard President Aggie Speleological Society On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:13 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Gravity-powered LEDs.
Details! :) Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:20 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Gravity-powered LEDs. The only problem is that the light would be at the top of the drop while the caver is on the bottom! Mark At 10:53 AM 1/17/2013, Ted Samsel wrote: And at the end of the abseil/rappel, sunt lux! http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/01/kerosene-lamps-face-gravity-powe red-usurper/ Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd!
Kyle brings up a good point and one that I neglected to mention. TPWD and the folks at Longhorn are requiring volunteers to register before coming out. (Don't freak out! It's not some One World Order/Black Helicopter/Fluoride in your water conspiracy!). It's not that big of a deal! It's just an easier way for them to track volunteer hours and for YOU to see what's available and needed at parks across the state. Thanks for the heads up, Kyle! Mark From: Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W Burnet, Texas 78611 cell 512-636-6206 just one more cast, dad LIndsey Rodgers From: Kyle Leonard [mailto:kyl.leon...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 1:40 PM To: Alman, Mark @ ESG - WSS - IRP Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend- Saturday, February 2nd! Hi Mark, Is TPWD still requiring that all volunteers register online with the state? I plan on bringing a good amount of Aggies your way and hope we can be of useful service. Thanks, Kyle Leonard President Aggie Speleological Society On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:13 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Well, with the Holidays and the failed Mayan Apocalypse behind us, what better way to kick off 2013 than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend?! We will meet at the parking lot up from the Visitor Center at around 9:30 Saturday, February 2nd. If you can help out Friday night, please let me know. The TPWD has graciously followed through and approved funds and is assigning work crews to begin some long overdue trail improvements to quite a few areas throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, we will be trying to stay out of the way and work on a few other projects, both in the cave and above the cave. One of these we will have to perform after hours on Saturday night (after going into town to dine at the Bluebonnet Café!) and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have hand tools (shovels, hand saws, limb loppers, chainsaws, wheelbarrows), please feel free to bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! If you have any kids interested in getting into caving, volunteer service, camping, and just hanging out with some cool folks, bring 'em along! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you next month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit
Disney and LucasFilms should also be sued for making a terrible movie, as well. As much as I wanted another Indiana Jones movie, uh, Steve? Should have stopped at 3, buddy! Mark From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:32 PM To: Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit A caver friend called this to my attention. Some of you know David and Eleanor Larson's XMET project in Belize. That project gets permission to visit and map caves in Belize from Dr. Jaime Awe, who filed this lawsuit about the Crystal Skulls DirtDoc On Wednesday, one of the most entertaining lawsuits of the year was filed in Illinois federal court. It comes from Dr. Jaime Awe, director of the Institute of Archeology of Belize. This real-life Indiana Jones is suing on behalf of the nation of Belize over the Crystal Skull artifact, popularized in the 2008 Steven Spielberg film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Awe is demanding the return of the Crystal Skull from a treasure-hunting family who allegedly stole it 88 years ago from Belize, and if that's not enough, the lawsuit targets Lucasfilm, its new owner the Walt Disney Co. and Paramount Pictures, which released the Crystal Skull film, for allegedly using a replica likeness of the Crystal Skull. Among the damages claimed are the illegal profits of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The movie grossed about $786 million worldwide. According to the lawsuit, the Crystal Skull is attributed to Mayan culture and is a hardstone carving from clear or milky quartz that resembles a human skull. It's believed to have magical or otherwise supernatural powers, and there are four known valuable Crystal Skulls in the world. Three are on public display at the British Museum in London, the Musee du Quai Branly in Paris and the Smithsonian in Washington. And the fourth? Awe, whose profile is listed here, says that a proclaimed adventurer named F.A. Mitchell-Hedges traveled to Belize in the early 1920s. His adopted daughter Anna Mitchell-Hedges is alleged to have first discovered a Crystal Skull under a collapsed altar while exploring temple ruins in Belize. She reportedly disclosed this in a documentary that aired on the Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy) in 2008. The skull is described as 5 inches high, 7 inches long and 5 inches wide. It was taken to the U.S in 1930, then travelled with the father to England and remained there until his death in 1959, after which it was kept by the daughter and later the daughter's husband in Indiana. The family is said to have made money exhibiting it. STORY: Steven Spielberg Proud of Fourth 'Indiana Jones' Movie Criticisms The 2008 film is noted as utilizing a replica that clearly resembles the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and specifically references it. On the other hand, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull says the artifact was found in Peru and was of unspecified Native American heritage. LucasFilm never sought, nor was given permission to utilize the Mitchell-Hedges Skull or its likeness in the Film, says the complaint. To date, Belize has not participated in any of the profits derived from the sale of the Film or the rights thereto. The plaintiff is suing the Mitchell-Hedges family for removing the Crystal Skull from the country and never returning it. In movies, an adventuresome archeologist might steal it back. In real life, they go to court. Just as provocatively, although arguably a tad late, is the claim that the exhibition of the skull in the Spielberg film is unlawful. The lawsuit filed by attorney Adam Tracy attempts to make this claim by saying that Belize has a right, title and interest in and to the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and its likeness, and that the film companies have participated in a civil conspiracy and tortiously interfered with its prospective economic advantage.
RE: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit
Disney and LucasFilms should also be sued for making a terrible movie, as well. As much as I wanted another Indiana Jones movie, uh, Steve? Should have stopped at 3, buddy! Mark From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:32 PM To: Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit A caver friend called this to my attention. Some of you know David and Eleanor Larson's XMET project in Belize. That project gets permission to visit and map caves in Belize from Dr. Jaime Awe, who filed this lawsuit about the Crystal Skulls DirtDoc On Wednesday, one of the most entertaining lawsuits of the year was filed in Illinois federal court. It comes from Dr. Jaime Awe, director of the Institute of Archeology of Belize. This real-life Indiana Jones is suing on behalf of the nation of Belize over the Crystal Skull artifact, popularized in the 2008 Steven Spielberg film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Awe is demanding the return of the Crystal Skull from a treasure-hunting family who allegedly stole it 88 years ago from Belize, and if that's not enough, the lawsuit targets Lucasfilm, its new owner the Walt Disney Co. and Paramount Pictures, which released the Crystal Skull film, for allegedly using a replica likeness of the Crystal Skull. Among the damages claimed are the illegal profits of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The movie grossed about $786 million worldwide. According to the lawsuit, the Crystal Skull is attributed to Mayan culture and is a hardstone carving from clear or milky quartz that resembles a human skull. It's believed to have magical or otherwise supernatural powers, and there are four known valuable Crystal Skulls in the world. Three are on public display at the British Museum in London, the Musee du Quai Branly in Paris and the Smithsonian in Washington. And the fourth? Awe, whose profile is listed here, says that a proclaimed adventurer named F.A. Mitchell-Hedges traveled to Belize in the early 1920s. His adopted daughter Anna Mitchell-Hedges is alleged to have first discovered a Crystal Skull under a collapsed altar while exploring temple ruins in Belize. She reportedly disclosed this in a documentary that aired on the Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy) in 2008. The skull is described as 5 inches high, 7 inches long and 5 inches wide. It was taken to the U.S in 1930, then travelled with the father to England and remained there until his death in 1959, after which it was kept by the daughter and later the daughter's husband in Indiana. The family is said to have made money exhibiting it. STORY: Steven Spielberg Proud of Fourth 'Indiana Jones' Movie Criticisms The 2008 film is noted as utilizing a replica that clearly resembles the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and specifically references it. On the other hand, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull says the artifact was found in Peru and was of unspecified Native American heritage. LucasFilm never sought, nor was given permission to utilize the Mitchell-Hedges Skull or its likeness in the Film, says the complaint. To date, Belize has not participated in any of the profits derived from the sale of the Film or the rights thereto. The plaintiff is suing the Mitchell-Hedges family for removing the Crystal Skull from the country and never returning it. In movies, an adventuresome archeologist might steal it back. In real life, they go to court. Just as provocatively, although arguably a tad late, is the claim that the exhibition of the skull in the Spielberg film is unlawful. The lawsuit filed by attorney Adam Tracy attempts to make this claim by saying that Belize has a right, title and interest in and to the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and its likeness, and that the film companies have participated in a civil conspiracy and tortiously interfered with its prospective economic advantage.
RE: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit
Disney and LucasFilms should also be sued for making a terrible movie, as well. As much as I wanted another Indiana Jones movie, uh, Steve? Should have stopped at 3, buddy! Mark From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 1:32 PM To: Cave Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Crystal Skull Lawsuit A caver friend called this to my attention. Some of you know David and Eleanor Larson's XMET project in Belize. That project gets permission to visit and map caves in Belize from Dr. Jaime Awe, who filed this lawsuit about the Crystal Skulls DirtDoc On Wednesday, one of the most entertaining lawsuits of the year was filed in Illinois federal court. It comes from Dr. Jaime Awe, director of the Institute of Archeology of Belize. This real-life Indiana Jones is suing on behalf of the nation of Belize over the Crystal Skull artifact, popularized in the 2008 Steven Spielberg film Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Awe is demanding the return of the Crystal Skull from a treasure-hunting family who allegedly stole it 88 years ago from Belize, and if that's not enough, the lawsuit targets Lucasfilm, its new owner the Walt Disney Co. and Paramount Pictures, which released the Crystal Skull film, for allegedly using a replica likeness of the Crystal Skull. Among the damages claimed are the illegal profits of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The movie grossed about $786 million worldwide. According to the lawsuit, the Crystal Skull is attributed to Mayan culture and is a hardstone carving from clear or milky quartz that resembles a human skull. It's believed to have magical or otherwise supernatural powers, and there are four known valuable Crystal Skulls in the world. Three are on public display at the British Museum in London, the Musee du Quai Branly in Paris and the Smithsonian in Washington. And the fourth? Awe, whose profile is listed here, says that a proclaimed adventurer named F.A. Mitchell-Hedges traveled to Belize in the early 1920s. His adopted daughter Anna Mitchell-Hedges is alleged to have first discovered a Crystal Skull under a collapsed altar while exploring temple ruins in Belize. She reportedly disclosed this in a documentary that aired on the Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy) in 2008. The skull is described as 5 inches high, 7 inches long and 5 inches wide. It was taken to the U.S in 1930, then travelled with the father to England and remained there until his death in 1959, after which it was kept by the daughter and later the daughter's husband in Indiana. The family is said to have made money exhibiting it. STORY: Steven Spielberg Proud of Fourth 'Indiana Jones' Movie Criticisms The 2008 film is noted as utilizing a replica that clearly resembles the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and specifically references it. On the other hand, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull says the artifact was found in Peru and was of unspecified Native American heritage. LucasFilm never sought, nor was given permission to utilize the Mitchell-Hedges Skull or its likeness in the Film, says the complaint. To date, Belize has not participated in any of the profits derived from the sale of the Film or the rights thereto. The plaintiff is suing the Mitchell-Hedges family for removing the Crystal Skull from the country and never returning it. In movies, an adventuresome archeologist might steal it back. In real life, they go to court. Just as provocatively, although arguably a tad late, is the claim that the exhibition of the skull in the Spielberg film is unlawful. The lawsuit filed by attorney Adam Tracy attempts to make this claim by saying that Belize has a right, title and interest in and to the Mitchell-Hedges Skull and its likeness, and that the film companies have participated in a civil conspiracy and tortiously interfered with its prospective economic advantage.
RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
Geary, Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here? Thanks, Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Rafal, I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a response. Thanks, Geary From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H. sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how specific is the PCR used by Baylor College of Medicine for Trypanosoma cruzi? Where PCR primers used for detection tested against other related protozoa? Have the primers withstood the test of clinical practice? Rafal Kedzierski DFW caver From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:18:40 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Folks, Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were captured around the porch areas. Here is the email recently sent to me by Kristy Orsburn Murray a researcher at Baylor. We finally were able to develop and establish the PCR for testing the insects for Chagas. We ran the PCRs yesterday. I wanted to let you know that 3 of the 4 kissing bugs were positive, including the blood fed triatomine. It was still alive when we received it, and it had defecated in the Ziploc baggie. We took the feces separate from the insect and also ran PCR, and the feces was positive. This was the insect that said it was found under a rug in one of the cabins. We are running a blood meal analysis on it to see if we can identify the source of the blood meal. If human, do you know who was in that cabin at the time of the collection? Perhaps we should test those of you who might be exposed to these insects. With such a high percentage positive, the risk for transmission of Chagas could be high. Let me know if you have any questions. We are happy to help. Best wishes Kristy I suspect that the results from the bugs collected at the Deep Cabin are not unique to south Texas and that many of these bugs are positive. I have five additional bugs from Bexar County that will be submitted for testing. Chagas is not a nice disease and I suspect that a number of cavers who have camped out in the hill country over the years have been exposed. Below are some links on Chagas information. It is a personal decision on whether you should get tested and where and how you sleep. I'm sure this will create some lively discussions. Geary Schindel http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Chagas-disease-carri er-may-be-threat-in-Texas-3650719.php (From San Antonio Express News) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagas_disease(From Wikipedia) http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/ (From Centers for Disease Control) http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chagas-disease/DS00956 (From Mayo Clinic) http://www.who.int/topics/chagas_disease/en/ (From World Health Organization)
RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
Geary, Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here? Thanks, Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Rafal, I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a response. Thanks, Geary From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H. sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how specific is the PCR used by Baylor College of Medicine for Trypanosoma cruzi? Where PCR primers used for detection tested against other related protozoa? Have the primers withstood the test of clinical practice? Rafal Kedzierski DFW caver From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:18:40 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Folks, Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were captured around the porch areas. Here is the email recently sent to me by Kristy Orsburn Murray a researcher at Baylor. We finally were able to develop and establish the PCR for testing the insects for Chagas. We ran the PCRs yesterday. I wanted to let you know that 3 of the 4 kissing bugs were positive, including the blood fed triatomine. It was still alive when we received it, and it had defecated in the Ziploc baggie. We took the feces separate from the insect and also ran PCR, and the feces was positive. This was the insect that said it was found under a rug in one of the cabins. We are running a blood meal analysis on it to see if we can identify the source of the blood meal. If human, do you know who was in that cabin at the time of the collection? Perhaps we should test those of you who might be exposed to these insects. With such a high percentage positive, the risk for transmission of Chagas could be high. Let me know if you have any questions. We are happy to help. Best wishes Kristy I suspect that the results from the bugs collected at the Deep Cabin are not unique to south Texas and that many of these bugs are positive. I have five additional bugs from Bexar County that will be submitted for testing. Chagas is not a nice disease and I suspect that a number of cavers who have camped out in the hill country over the years have been exposed. Below are some links on Chagas information. It is a personal decision on whether you should get tested and where and how you sleep. I'm sure this will create some lively discussions. Geary Schindel http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Chagas-disease-carri er-may-be-threat-in-Texas-3650719.php (From San Antonio Express News) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagas_disease(From Wikipedia) http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/ (From Centers for Disease Control) http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chagas-disease/DS00956 (From Mayo Clinic) http://www.who.int/topics/chagas_disease/en/ (From World Health Organization)
RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas
Geary, Could you or Rafal list the symptoms here? Thanks, Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:46 PM To: 'rafal kedzierski'; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Rafal, I've forward your question to Krista and told her I would be happy to post a response. Thanks, Geary From: rafal kedzierski [mailto:rafal...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 2:29 PM To: Geary Schindel; texas cavers tc Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Just throwing gas on the fire of complexity of life, I just want to point out that Trypanosoma cruzi or causitive factor in Chagas disease is not only trypanosome in the environment. Most of them are not directly harmful to H. sapiens. Therefore, before anyone jumps to any conclusion, how specific is the PCR used by Baylor College of Medicine for Trypanosoma cruzi? Where PCR primers used for detection tested against other related protozoa? Have the primers withstood the test of clinical practice? Rafal Kedzierski DFW caver From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:18:40 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Results of testing for Chagas in Kissing bugs in Texas Folks, Back in June, I collected four kissing bugs from the Deep and Punkin preserve in Edwards County, Texas. This was in support of some research being conducted by the National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine. Two of the bugs were captured in the cabin and two were captured around the porch areas. Here is the email recently sent to me by Kristy Orsburn Murray a researcher at Baylor. We finally were able to develop and establish the PCR for testing the insects for Chagas. We ran the PCRs yesterday. I wanted to let you know that 3 of the 4 kissing bugs were positive, including the blood fed triatomine. It was still alive when we received it, and it had defecated in the Ziploc baggie. We took the feces separate from the insect and also ran PCR, and the feces was positive. This was the insect that said it was found under a rug in one of the cabins. We are running a blood meal analysis on it to see if we can identify the source of the blood meal. If human, do you know who was in that cabin at the time of the collection? Perhaps we should test those of you who might be exposed to these insects. With such a high percentage positive, the risk for transmission of Chagas could be high. Let me know if you have any questions. We are happy to help. Best wishes Kristy I suspect that the results from the bugs collected at the Deep Cabin are not unique to south Texas and that many of these bugs are positive. I have five additional bugs from Bexar County that will be submitted for testing. Chagas is not a nice disease and I suspect that a number of cavers who have camped out in the hill country over the years have been exposed. Below are some links on Chagas information. It is a personal decision on whether you should get tested and where and how you sleep. I'm sure this will create some lively discussions. Geary Schindel http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Chagas-disease-carri er-may-be-threat-in-Texas-3650719.php (From San Antonio Express News) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagas_disease(From Wikipedia) http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/chagas/ (From Centers for Disease Control) http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chagas-disease/DS00956 (From Mayo Clinic) http://www.who.int/topics/chagas_disease/en/ (From World Health Organization)
[Texascavers] Volunteers Needed for Girl Scout Winter Jam at CBSP, January 12th
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and, now, I need your help. For the last several years, cavers from around the state have participated with the folks at TPWD and GS leaders from the Austin and San Antonio area for their annual event at CBSP. I just wanted to let you know that we have been invited to again assist the Girl Scouts from the Austin and San Antonio area at Colorado Bend SP for their annual Girl Scout Extravaganza. They are needing our help to lead groups of girls on caving trips on Saturday, January 12th. They are usually split into three (or four groups) and we typically visit Dynamite Cave, Turtle Shell Cave, and Cicurrina (sp?) Cave and, possibly, Gorman Falls. A short cave talk at the Park office is usually given beforehand and the girls will be providing their own equipment. Female leaders are especially effective with the Scouts, as they seem to like and appreciate members of the fairer sex who aren't afraid to have fun and get dirty! I was planning on helping, as were the kids, as we have the last 6 or 7 ( 8?) years, but I found out my parents will be swinging through the DFW area to see us and, primarily, their two new great granddaughters that same weekend. If any of you could head up this endeavor, I would be very much indebted to you and the Conference Center available for GS caving volunteers' use. Please let me know if you can assist and I appreciate your past help and, I hope, participation in January. Thanks! Mark Alman
[Texascavers] Volunteers Needed for Girl Scout Winter Jam at CBSP, January 12th
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and, now, I need your help. For the last several years, cavers from around the state have participated with the folks at TPWD and GS leaders from the Austin and San Antonio area for their annual event at CBSP. I just wanted to let you know that we have been invited to again assist the Girl Scouts from the Austin and San Antonio area at Colorado Bend SP for their annual Girl Scout Extravaganza. They are needing our help to lead groups of girls on caving trips on Saturday, January 12th. They are usually split into three (or four groups) and we typically visit Dynamite Cave, Turtle Shell Cave, and Cicurrina (sp?) Cave and, possibly, Gorman Falls. A short cave talk at the Park office is usually given beforehand and the girls will be providing their own equipment. Female leaders are especially effective with the Scouts, as they seem to like and appreciate members of the fairer sex who aren't afraid to have fun and get dirty! I was planning on helping, as were the kids, as we have the last 6 or 7 ( 8?) years, but I found out my parents will be swinging through the DFW area to see us and, primarily, their two new great granddaughters that same weekend. If any of you could head up this endeavor, I would be very much indebted to you and the Conference Center available for GS caving volunteers' use. Please let me know if you can assist and I appreciate your past help and, I hope, participation in January. Thanks! Mark Alman
[Texascavers] Paging Fritz Holt
Hey, Fritz! Please contact me offline, or, if someone has his email, could you shoot it to me? Thank you. Thank very much! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!- POSTPONED TILL February 2013
Good morning, y'all! After discussions with folks at TPWD Friday, and a future meeting the week of November 5th on current and future projects and priority/scheduling, I have come to the conclusion that it would be best to hold off on the Longhorn Project till 2013. Complicating project dates, much to my delight, is the fact that our family is about to be blessed with the birth of two granddaughters and future cavers around the first of December and around the Christmas timeframe. (If you think I'm going to miss the birth of these two little cuties for a caving project, you're plumb loco!). Thanks for your current interest and past participation in this fun and productive project in 2012! TPWD and the folks at LCSP sincerely appreciate it! Give me a holler if you'd like more details. Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!- POSTPONED TILL February 2013
Good morning, y'all! After discussions with folks at TPWD Friday, and a future meeting the week of November 5th on current and future projects and priority/scheduling, I have come to the conclusion that it would be best to hold off on the Longhorn Project till 2013. Complicating project dates, much to my delight, is the fact that our family is about to be blessed with the birth of two granddaughters and future cavers around the first of December and around the Christmas timeframe. (If you think I'm going to miss the birth of these two little cuties for a caving project, you're plumb loco!). Thanks for your current interest and past participation in this fun and productive project in 2012! TPWD and the folks at LCSP sincerely appreciate it! Give me a holler if you'd like more details. Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!- POSTPONED TILL February 2013
Good morning, y'all! After discussions with folks at TPWD Friday, and a future meeting the week of November 5th on current and future projects and priority/scheduling, I have come to the conclusion that it would be best to hold off on the Longhorn Project till 2013. Complicating project dates, much to my delight, is the fact that our family is about to be blessed with the birth of two granddaughters and future cavers around the first of December and around the Christmas timeframe. (If you think I'm going to miss the birth of these two little cuties for a caving project, you're plumb loco!). Thanks for your current interest and past participation in this fun and productive project in 2012! TPWD and the folks at LCSP sincerely appreciate it! Give me a holler if you'd like more details. Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
P.S. If you do decide to come out and help, the TPWD staff has stated and is requiring the following: From: Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Mark Winford Cc: David Bell; Terence Young; Michelle Devaney; Christina Utley Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W Burnet, Texas 78611 cell 512-636-6206 It's a very cool website and TPWD has several volunteer opportunities, besides caving (imagine that!) that you might be interested in. Complete the online application and see what other areas of interest are out there and might appeal to you. I know I found some! Very painless! Thanks! Mark From: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com Subject: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror, and Halloween will soon be behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off the fall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much needed equipment for us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, this project will involve scoring ~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf (c) ) to improve traction, safety, and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!) crews to be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: * Free camping Friday and Saturday nights * Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). * A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw on caps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
Nah, only if you're a Brit! :) Mark From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Karen karen.mast...@gmail.com; Julia Germany germa...@aol.com Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Background check to be a volunteer?!! Is this some form of police state we’re now in?! From:Karen [mailto:karen.mast...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:35 PM To: Julia Germany Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com; diane.dismu...@tpwd.state.tx.us; deirdre.his...@tpwd.state.tx.us; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Mark, How far in advance does TPWD need this filled out? If a background check is needed, I'd guess there is a cut-off point. Thanks, Karen On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: This is SOOO cool! I am already registered. NOTE: When you sign up for LCSP, they require a background check. Can't be any worse than the 24-pager I just completed for a job in Austin! And, you can sign up for so many other things, too - like grant writing!! And even more exciting activities above ground, too. This was long overdue - very proud of TPWD for setting this up. What a great tool! julia -Original Message- From: Mark.Alman mark.al...@l-3com.com To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germanyj germa...@aol.com; Kuvasz1 kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon.tiu lyndon@gmail.com; bill b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanichole natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefrancke cefran...@yahoo.com; trogdog trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycountry cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreaiken mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellember bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchandler kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery409 sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtucker caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmayeu4 mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 2:43 pm Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! P.S. If you do decide to come out and help, the TPWD staff has stated and is requiring the following: From:Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us?] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Mark Winford Cc: David Bell; Terence Young; Michelle Devaney; Christina Utley Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ Allvolunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W cell 512-636-6206 It’s a very cool website and TPWD has several volunteer opportunities, besides caving (imagine that!) that you might be interested in. Complete the online application and see what other areas of interest are out there and might appeal to you. I know I found some! Very painless! Thanks! Mark From:Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay
Re: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
I wish that's what it was, Natasha. It's that freakin' new landowner (lawyer, naturally) in Houston! You coming that weekend? Mark From: Natasha Glasgow natashanich...@yahoo.com To: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:39 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Crown Over is still off limits!!??!!?? Officer Loverboy must really be putting up a fight Natasha Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 13:46, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror,and Halloween willsoonbe behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off thefall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much neededequipmentfor us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, thisprojectwill involve scoring~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf©) to improve traction, safety,and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there’s enough interest, I’dliketo do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!)crewsto be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use ofThe Basement forwild cave tours(the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald EagleBoat CruiseSundayon beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw oncaps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror, and Halloween will soon be behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off the fall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much needed equipment for us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, this project will involve scoring ~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf (c) ) to improve traction, safety, and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!) crews to be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: * Free camping Friday and Saturday nights * Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). * A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw on caps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
P.S. If you do decide to come out and help, the TPWD staff has stated and is requiring the following: From: Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Mark Winford Cc: David Bell; Terence Young; Michelle Devaney; Christina Utley Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ All volunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn's zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W Burnet, Texas 78611 cell 512-636-6206 It's a very cool website and TPWD has several volunteer opportunities, besides caving (imagine that!) that you might be interested in. Complete the online application and see what other areas of interest are out there and might appeal to you. I know I found some! Very painless! Thanks! Mark From: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com Subject: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror, and Halloween will soon be behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off the fall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much needed equipment for us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, this project will involve scoring ~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf (c) ) to improve traction, safety, and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!) crews to be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: * Free camping Friday and Saturday nights * Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). * A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw on caps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
Nah, only if you're a Brit! :) Mark From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Karen karen.mast...@gmail.com; Julia Germany germa...@aol.com Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Background check to be a volunteer?!! Is this some form of police state we’re now in?! From:Karen [mailto:karen.mast...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:35 PM To: Julia Germany Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com; diane.dismu...@tpwd.state.tx.us; deirdre.his...@tpwd.state.tx.us; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Mark, How far in advance does TPWD need this filled out? If a background check is needed, I'd guess there is a cut-off point. Thanks, Karen On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: This is SOOO cool! I am already registered. NOTE: When you sign up for LCSP, they require a background check. Can't be any worse than the 24-pager I just completed for a job in Austin! And, you can sign up for so many other things, too - like grant writing!! And even more exciting activities above ground, too. This was long overdue - very proud of TPWD for setting this up. What a great tool! julia -Original Message- From: Mark.Alman mark.al...@l-3com.com To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germanyj germa...@aol.com; Kuvasz1 kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon.tiu lyndon@gmail.com; bill b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanichole natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefrancke cefran...@yahoo.com; trogdog trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycountry cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreaiken mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellember bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchandler kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery409 sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtucker caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmayeu4 mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 2:43 pm Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! P.S. If you do decide to come out and help, the TPWD staff has stated and is requiring the following: From:Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us?] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Mark Winford Cc: David Bell; Terence Young; Michelle Devaney; Christina Utley Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ Allvolunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W cell 512-636-6206 It’s a very cool website and TPWD has several volunteer opportunities, besides caving (imagine that!) that you might be interested in. Complete the online application and see what other areas of interest are out there and might appeal to you. I know I found some! Very painless! Thanks! Mark From:Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay
Re: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
I wish that's what it was, Natasha. It's that freakin' new landowner (lawyer, naturally) in Houston! You coming that weekend? Mark From: Natasha Glasgow natashanich...@yahoo.com To: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:39 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Crown Over is still off limits!!??!!?? Officer Loverboy must really be putting up a fight Natasha Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 13:46, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror,and Halloween willsoonbe behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off thefall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much neededequipmentfor us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, thisprojectwill involve scoring~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf©) to improve traction, safety,and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there’s enough interest, I’dliketo do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!)crewsto be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use ofThe Basement forwild cave tours(the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald EagleBoat CruiseSundayon beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw oncaps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
[Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror, and Halloween will soon be behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off the fall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much needed equipment for us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, this project will involve scoring ~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf (c) ) to improve traction, safety, and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there's enough interest, I'd like to do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!) crews to be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: * Free camping Friday and Saturday nights * Free use of The Basement for wild cave tours (the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). * A Free Vanishing Texas Bald Eagle Boat Cruise Sunday on beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw on caps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
Nah, only if you're a Brit! :) Mark From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com To: Karen karen.mast...@gmail.com; Julia Germany germa...@aol.com Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Background check to be a volunteer?!! Is this some form of police state we’re now in?! From:Karen [mailto:karen.mast...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:35 PM To: Julia Germany Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com; diane.dismu...@tpwd.state.tx.us; deirdre.his...@tpwd.state.tx.us; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Mark, How far in advance does TPWD need this filled out? If a background check is needed, I'd guess there is a cut-off point. Thanks, Karen On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: This is SOOO cool! I am already registered. NOTE: When you sign up for LCSP, they require a background check. Can't be any worse than the 24-pager I just completed for a job in Austin! And, you can sign up for so many other things, too - like grant writing!! And even more exciting activities above ground, too. This was long overdue - very proud of TPWD for setting this up. What a great tool! julia -Original Message- From: Mark.Alman mark.al...@l-3com.com To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germanyj germa...@aol.com; Kuvasz1 kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon.tiu lyndon@gmail.com; bill b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanichole natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefrancke cefran...@yahoo.com; trogdog trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycountry cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreaiken mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellember bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchandler kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery409 sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtucker caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmayeu4 mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2012 2:43 pm Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! P.S. If you do decide to come out and help, the TPWD staff has stated and is requiring the following: From:Terry Rodgers [mailto:terry.rodg...@tpwd.state.tx.us?] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:24 AM To: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS; Mark Winford Cc: David Bell; Terence Young; Michelle Devaney; Christina Utley Subject: RE: Longhorn Caverns trail supplies - Hi Mark! We have finally finished the paperwork to get volunteers at Longhorn!!! Here is the site to go to and apply: http://ec.volunteernow.com/custom/1353/ Allvolunteers must apply, then select a location, easiest to plug in Longhorn’s zip code, 78611. The new system works faster than the older paper. Thanks Mark! Terry Rodgers Inks Lake State Park 3630 Park Road 4 W cell 512-636-6206 It’s a very cool website and TPWD has several volunteer opportunities, besides caving (imagine that!) that you might be interested in. Complete the online application and see what other areas of interest are out there and might appeal to you. I know I found some! Very painless! Thanks! Mark From:Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com; natashanich...@yahoo.com; cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman; bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay
Re: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!
I wish that's what it was, Natasha. It's that freakin' new landowner (lawyer, naturally) in Houston! You coming that weekend? Mark From: Natasha Glasgow natashanich...@yahoo.com To: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com; germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com; kuva...@mygrande.net kuva...@mygrande.net; lyndon@gmail.com lyndon@gmail.com; b...@zaraenvironmental.com b...@zaraenvironmental.com; cefran...@yahoo.com cefran...@yahoo.com; trog...@hotmail.com trog...@hotmail.com; cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net cowboycoun...@sbcglobal.net; mreai...@gmail.com mreai...@gmail.com; Mark Alman texascav...@yahoo.com; bellem...@yahoo.com bellem...@yahoo.com; edwin lehr edwin_leh...@hotmail.com; kristopherchand...@yahoo.com kristopherchand...@yahoo.com; sharonavery...@yahoo.com sharonavery...@yahoo.com; caseydtuc...@gmail.com caseydtuc...@gmail.com; mmay...@gmail.com mmay...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:39 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Caving AND Power Tools?! It Must Be a Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th! Crown Over is still off limits!!??!!?? Officer Loverboy must really be putting up a fight Natasha Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 13:46, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Well, with TCR in the rear view mirror,and Halloween willsoonbe behind us by the time this rolls around, what better way to kick off thefall than a Longhorn Caverns Project weekend involving caving, electricity, and power tools! The TPWD has graciously followed through and purchased some much neededequipmentfor us to make some long overdue trail improvements to a few areas Throughout the cave. Other funds for several other projects in the cave are to follow. In the meantime, thisprojectwill involve scoring~ 61 feet of concrete throughout the cave (after we remove some gawd awful Astroturf©) to improve traction, safety,and overall appearance. We will have to do this after hours on Saturday night and, if there’s enough interest, I’dliketo do this on Friday night, as well. We have enough equipment for 8 (!)crewsto be at work at one time. As a reward for helping out with this, the park is offering: · Free camping Friday and Saturday nights · Free use ofThe Basement forwild cave tours(the Crownover back entrance is still off limits). · A Free Vanishing Texas Bald EagleBoat CruiseSundayon beautiful Lake LBJ to observe bald eagles! If you have water jugs with screw oncaps, please bring them. Hope to see the old hands back at the project this month, as well as any new faces interested in helping out. This is a truly fun and enjoyable project and we try hard to keep it that way and we guarantee a great weekend! Come out to a spectacular and historic cave and park, friendly park staff, and the always entertaining camaraderie of cavers! Hope to see you this month! Thanks! Mark
Re: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux
(Cue the patriotic music and Texas and American flags waving in the background) During this highly politicized election year, I am pleased to announce the two candidates running for TSA Vice Chair and TSA Secretary. They are (drum roll please): Vice Chair: Roger Moore Secretary: Ryan Monjeras A sincere thank you to those who took the time to nominate someone and to those of you who took the time to think it over (at least a minute or two) before declining! Please be sure to attend the TSA business meeting at 8 AM and greet the dawn (Good morning, Crash!) and perform your civil duty by voting for these fine folks or, if you must cast a write in vote, you'll be free to do that, as well! Or you can send you write in votes to me and I will forward them to Don. Remember: In order to vote, either at TCR or by email, you MUST be a registered TSA member! Vote early and vote often! Finally, a humongous hats off to Ellie for serving the last few of years as Vice Chair and to Denise for her excellent service as TSA Secretary, all the time while attending nursing school! I am in awe of you two ladies and the TSA extends its thanks and appreciation for your years of hard work and dedication to making the TSA what it is. I know the two of you made my job and my years as Chairman much, much easier! Thanks! Mark Alman 2013 TSA Nominations Chair From: Oztotl d...@oztotl.com To: TSA Cavers List texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning.
Re: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux
(Cue the patriotic music and Texas and American flags waving in the background) During this highly politicized election year, I am pleased to announce the two candidates running for TSA Vice Chair and TSA Secretary. They are (drum roll please): Vice Chair: Roger Moore Secretary: Ryan Monjeras A sincere thank you to those who took the time to nominate someone and to those of you who took the time to think it over (at least a minute or two) before declining! Please be sure to attend the TSA business meeting at 8 AM and greet the dawn (Good morning, Crash!) and perform your civil duty by voting for these fine folks or, if you must cast a write in vote, you'll be free to do that, as well! Or you can send you write in votes to me and I will forward them to Don. Remember: In order to vote, either at TCR or by email, you MUST be a registered TSA member! Vote early and vote often! Finally, a humongous hats off to Ellie for serving the last few of years as Vice Chair and to Denise for her excellent service as TSA Secretary, all the time while attending nursing school! I am in awe of you two ladies and the TSA extends its thanks and appreciation for your years of hard work and dedication to making the TSA what it is. I know the two of you made my job and my years as Chairman much, much easier! Thanks! Mark Alman 2013 TSA Nominations Chair From: Oztotl d...@oztotl.com To: TSA Cavers List texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning.
Re: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux
(Cue the patriotic music and Texas and American flags waving in the background) During this highly politicized election year, I am pleased to announce the two candidates running for TSA Vice Chair and TSA Secretary. They are (drum roll please): Vice Chair: Roger Moore Secretary: Ryan Monjeras A sincere thank you to those who took the time to nominate someone and to those of you who took the time to think it over (at least a minute or two) before declining! Please be sure to attend the TSA business meeting at 8 AM and greet the dawn (Good morning, Crash!) and perform your civil duty by voting for these fine folks or, if you must cast a write in vote, you'll be free to do that, as well! Or you can send you write in votes to me and I will forward them to Don. Remember: In order to vote, either at TCR or by email, you MUST be a registered TSA member! Vote early and vote often! Finally, a humongous hats off to Ellie for serving the last few of years as Vice Chair and to Denise for her excellent service as TSA Secretary, all the time while attending nursing school! I am in awe of you two ladies and the TSA extends its thanks and appreciation for your years of hard work and dedication to making the TSA what it is. I know the two of you made my job and my years as Chairman much, much easier! Thanks! Mark Alman 2013 TSA Nominations Chair From: Oztotl d...@oztotl.com To: TSA Cavers List texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: [Texascavers] 35th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion Redux The Texas Speleological Association is having a meeting and election at 8 a.m. Come prepared to elect a new generation of servants Sunday morning.
RE: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur
They say most accidents happen at home. Hell, I know what I'm doing this weekend... I'm moving!!! Hope you get to feeling better, Pete. Take advantage of being waited on hand and foot! It'll be over with before you know it. Mark Alman From: Tim Stich [mailto:timstic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:24 PM To: Herman Miller Cc: Mailing List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur He must have gotten a spider fracture of the femur head, which I assume is better than splitting the femur in half. Arrrgh. Anyway, hope you heal up quickly and get back on your feet soon, Pete! An old boss of mine must have broken three different bones at her own home as well. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com Best of luck with the recovery Pete. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Irony is everywhere! Pete and family, keep as well as possible under the circumstances. I'll direct good thoughts your way. Louise Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:21:26 -0500 From: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com; pstrickla...@austin.rr.com; jociehoo...@austin.rr.com Subject: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur I'm posting this on behalf of Pete Strickland, for those of you who have not heard the news. Most of you know Pete, and probably have been in his famous hot tub at Texas caver events and NSS Conventions over the last several decades. Pete slipped on his wet bathroom floor last Monday night (Oct 1st), took a hard fall, and fractured the head of his right femur. He is in the Round Rock Hospital (just north of Austin) and is scheduled for at least a week of excruciating (his words) physical therapy before he can go home. His wife Jocie Hooper (a RN) and sons Colin and Evan are taking turns to be with him. Just talked to Jocie who said he won't be able to put any weight on the right leg for a month. When Colin made the announcement on Wed at the UT Grotto meeting, there was much concern about Pete, most of it regarding the possibility that he would not be able to bring his hot tub to the upcoming Texas Caver Reunion Oct 19-21. Although he probably will not be there, his sons plan to bring the hot tub, and will appreciate help in setting it up. Logan
RE: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur
They say most accidents happen at home. Hell, I know what I'm doing this weekend... I'm moving!!! Hope you get to feeling better, Pete. Take advantage of being waited on hand and foot! It'll be over with before you know it. Mark Alman From: Tim Stich [mailto:timstic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:24 PM To: Herman Miller Cc: Mailing List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur He must have gotten a spider fracture of the femur head, which I assume is better than splitting the femur in half. Arrrgh. Anyway, hope you heal up quickly and get back on your feet soon, Pete! An old boss of mine must have broken three different bones at her own home as well. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com Best of luck with the recovery Pete. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Irony is everywhere! Pete and family, keep as well as possible under the circumstances. I'll direct good thoughts your way. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:21:26 -0500 From: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com; pstrickla...@austin.rr.com; jociehoo...@austin.rr.com Subject: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur I'm posting this on behalf of Pete Strickland, for those of you who have not heard the news. Most of you know Pete, and probably have been in his famous hot tub at Texas caver events and NSS Conventions over the last several decades. Pete slipped on his wet bathroom floor last Monday night (Oct 1st), took a hard fall, and fractured the head of his right femur. He is in the Round Rock Hospital (just north of Austin) and is scheduled for at least a week of excruciating (his words) physical therapy before he can go home. His wife Jocie Hooper (a RN) and sons Colin and Evan are taking turns to be with him. Just talked to Jocie who said he won't be able to put any weight on the right leg for a month. When Colin made the announcement on Wed at the UT Grotto meeting, there was much concern about Pete, most of it regarding the possibility that he would not be able to bring his hot tub to the upcoming Texas Caver Reunion Oct 19-21. Although he probably will not be there, his sons plan to bring the hot tub, and will appreciate help in setting it up. Logan
RE: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur
They say most accidents happen at home. Hell, I know what I'm doing this weekend... I'm moving!!! Hope you get to feeling better, Pete. Take advantage of being waited on hand and foot! It'll be over with before you know it. Mark Alman From: Tim Stich [mailto:timstic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:24 PM To: Herman Miller Cc: Mailing List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur He must have gotten a spider fracture of the femur head, which I assume is better than splitting the femur in half. Arrrgh. Anyway, hope you heal up quickly and get back on your feet soon, Pete! An old boss of mine must have broken three different bones at her own home as well. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com Best of luck with the recovery Pete. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Irony is everywhere! Pete and family, keep as well as possible under the circumstances. I'll direct good thoughts your way. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:21:26 -0500 From: lmcn...@austin.rr.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com; pstrickla...@austin.rr.com; jociehoo...@austin.rr.com Subject: [Texascavers] Pete Strickland broke his femur I'm posting this on behalf of Pete Strickland, for those of you who have not heard the news. Most of you know Pete, and probably have been in his famous hot tub at Texas caver events and NSS Conventions over the last several decades. Pete slipped on his wet bathroom floor last Monday night (Oct 1st), took a hard fall, and fractured the head of his right femur. He is in the Round Rock Hospital (just north of Austin) and is scheduled for at least a week of excruciating (his words) physical therapy before he can go home. His wife Jocie Hooper (a RN) and sons Colin and Evan are taking turns to be with him. Just talked to Jocie who said he won't be able to put any weight on the right leg for a month. When Colin made the announcement on Wed at the UT Grotto meeting, there was much concern about Pete, most of it regarding the possibility that he would not be able to bring his hot tub to the upcoming Texas Caver Reunion Oct 19-21. Although he probably will not be there, his sons plan to bring the hot tub, and will appreciate help in setting it up. Logan
[Texascavers] Just a Few Days Remain! - Request for officers for 2013 - The TSA Wants YOU To Volunteer!
Thankfully, I have had a pretty good response to my last plea and we even have some candidates (!) for the open positions of TSA Secretary and TSA Vice Chair. Thanks to all of the cavers who have responded with nominations and those of you who thought it over AND declined or accepted their respective nomination! The TSA could not function without people like you willing to serve or, at least, think it over. I'm going to close nominations on Monday, October 8th, and will post the candidates soon after on CaveTex, after conferring with the TSA leadership. Meanwhile, if this sounds like something you'd like to do or you have someone in mind, shoot an email my way. I also know that there are PLENTY of people out there who like to tell the TSA officers how to do their jobs, how they are doing them wrong, how they could do them better, what is wrong with the TSA, or want to conduct change on an institutional scale. Now is YOUR time! If I don't hear from you, I'll assume everything in the TSA is hunky dory and the new TSA leadership will not be bothered by your criticisms and you will forever and evermore hold your peace. So, nominate that special someone or volunteer now and be sure to vote at TCR. Make your voice heard! Democracy is a terrible thing to waste. (cue the patriotic music and flag waving in the background about now). Mucho gracias! Mark Alman (Borrowing from one of Ron Ralph's excellent past emails from when he was the TSA Nominations Chair). Cavers: It is once again time to consider running for office. The Texas Speleological Association needs your hat in the ring for the 2013 election at the Texas Caver Reunion. The positions are for one year and duties are outlined below. Knowing your reluctance to volunteer for any position, I am asking your friends (ha!) to suggest to me that you will be a fine candidate. I will then contact you and ask if you will run and serve. Our present officers (2012) are: President - Don Arburn (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) Vice-President - Ellie Watson (OPEN. Ellie is standing down, after many years of superb service to the TSA). Secretary - Denise Prendergast (OPEN. Denise is standing down, after many years of excellent record keeping for the TSA). Treasurer - Michael Cicherski (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) This is the first call for nominations. Please respond with your thoughts on possible candidates at your earliest convenience. Sincerely, Mark Alman, TSA Elections Committee Chair September 17, 2012 214-289-9181 - Cell Duties of TSA Officers Nominations for TSA officers are in progress. This page is an excerpt from the TSA Constitution describing the duties of TSA Officers. Article IV: Officers A. The Executive Council consists of the Chairman, Vice-Chairman, Secretary, Treasurer and the Chair of each standing committee. Elected officers shall take office on the first day of the New Year. 1. The Chairman, when present, shall preside over all TSA meetings. 2. The Vice-Chairman is responsible for meeting and program arrangements and shall preside at TSA meeting is the absence of the Chairman. 3. The Secretary records the minutes of TSA meetings and maintains a current list of members. 4. The Treasurer keeps track of TSA assets by maintaining adequate financial records, including those for The Texas Caver. The Treasurer prepares a budget for the fiscal year, maintains the membership database, and insures the database is available electronically to the membership. B. A vacancy in any elected office other than that of Chairman may be filled by the Executive Council by appointing any full member in good standing or by special election if so desired by the Executive Council. C. The Vice-Chairman shall fill a vacancy in the office of Chairman. D. Officers may be removed from their position by a three-quarters majority vote at any Member Meeting. NOTES: The vice chair has historically organized the TSA spring convention, in other words, No Vice Chair = No TSA Convention! And the chairman is responsible for organizing the TSA business meetings...ie preparing agendas, scheduling the meeting...keeping things moving at the meetingsand being a speleo-referee to keep things civil.
[Texascavers] Just a Few Days Remain! - Request for officers for 2013 - The TSA Wants YOU To Volunteer!
Thankfully, I have had a pretty good response to my last plea and we even have some candidates (!) for the open positions of TSA Secretary and TSA Vice Chair. Thanks to all of the cavers who have responded with nominations and those of you who thought it over AND declined or accepted their respective nomination! The TSA could not function without people like you willing to serve or, at least, think it over. I'm going to close nominations on Monday, October 8th, and will post the candidates soon after on CaveTex, after conferring with the TSA leadership. Meanwhile, if this sounds like something you'd like to do or you have someone in mind, shoot an email my way. I also know that there are PLENTY of people out there who like to tell the TSA officers how to do their jobs, how they are doing them wrong, how they could do them better, what is wrong with the TSA, or want to conduct change on an institutional scale. Now is YOUR time! If I don't hear from you, I'll assume everything in the TSA is hunky dory and the new TSA leadership will not be bothered by your criticisms and you will forever and evermore hold your peace. So, nominate that special someone or volunteer now and be sure to vote at TCR. Make your voice heard! Democracy is a terrible thing to waste. (cue the patriotic music and flag waving in the background about now). Mucho gracias! Mark Alman (Borrowing from one of Ron Ralph's excellent past emails from when he was the TSA Nominations Chair). Cavers: It is once again time to consider running for office. The Texas Speleological Association needs your hat in the ring for the 2013 election at the Texas Caver Reunion. The positions are for one year and duties are outlined below. Knowing your reluctance to volunteer for any position, I am asking your friends (ha!) to suggest to me that you will be a fine candidate. I will then contact you and ask if you will run and serve. Our present officers (2012) are: President - Don Arburn (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) Vice-President - Ellie Watson (OPEN. Ellie is standing down, after many years of superb service to the TSA). Secretary - Denise Prendergast (OPEN. Denise is standing down, after many years of excellent record keeping for the TSA). Treasurer - Michael Cicherski (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) This is the first call for nominations. Please respond with your thoughts on possible candidates at your earliest convenience. Sincerely, Mark Alman, TSA Elections Committee Chair September 17, 2012 214-289-9181 - Cell Duties of TSA Officers Nominations for TSA officers are in progress. This page is an excerpt from the TSA Constitution describing the duties of TSA Officers. Article IV: Officers A. The Executive Council consists of the Chairman, Vice-Chairman, Secretary, Treasurer and the Chair of each standing committee. Elected officers shall take office on the first day of the New Year. 1. The Chairman, when present, shall preside over all TSA meetings. 2. The Vice-Chairman is responsible for meeting and program arrangements and shall preside at TSA meeting is the absence of the Chairman. 3. The Secretary records the minutes of TSA meetings and maintains a current list of members. 4. The Treasurer keeps track of TSA assets by maintaining adequate financial records, including those for The Texas Caver. The Treasurer prepares a budget for the fiscal year, maintains the membership database, and insures the database is available electronically to the membership. B. A vacancy in any elected office other than that of Chairman may be filled by the Executive Council by appointing any full member in good standing or by special election if so desired by the Executive Council. C. The Vice-Chairman shall fill a vacancy in the office of Chairman. D. Officers may be removed from their position by a three-quarters majority vote at any Member Meeting. NOTES: The vice chair has historically organized the TSA spring convention, in other words, No Vice Chair = No TSA Convention! And the chairman is responsible for organizing the TSA business meetings...ie preparing agendas, scheduling the meeting...keeping things moving at the meetingsand being a speleo-referee to keep things civil.
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
Thanks for the update, Mike, and all you and the TCC do for Texas caves! It's a real shame when trespassers and cavers (who definitely should know better) flaunt the rules and policies governing access. I'd like to see a list of caves that we have lost access to, due to unauthorized access by cavers (whom once again, should have known better). River Styx and some after hours unauthorized trips in Carlsbad come to mind. Must be several more that slip my feeble memory. Sigh, Mark From: Mike Walsh [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:25 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such as changing cloths in the parking lot of a public park. Cavers in their underwear, and less, have made it difficult to keep cave open. As a result, all authorized trips will be for cave management activities such as cave clean up, the bi-annual monitoring, fire ant control and inspection, etc. These trips will be set up by the Texas Cave Conservancy. We will host an annual cave clean up and restoration visit. The next clean up day will be Saturday -February 23, 2013. If you are interested in assisting us in conducting the cave management activities, send us your name in an e-mail to tcc-ca...@austin.rr.comWe will place you on the list and contact you prior to our work project. Further, the TCC would like to make it very clear to Texas cavers that steps have been taken to alert law enforcement when unauthorized visitation is taking place. The TCC now has to notify the cave owner prior to each authorized visit. A Neighborhood Watch system is in place to observe the cave. A house near the cave can easily observe people entering the cave and call for law enforcement. In addition, electronic monitoring should greatly increase the number of trespassers arrested. We have been notified that all unauthorized visitors that are detected will be arrested and charged with trespassing. This will include cavers. We want to thank all of the cavers that worked with us to protect the cave. Your work has made a difference. The TCC has done everything possible, short of these new actions, to prevent problems. I will be at the Texas Caver's Reunion in October if you would like to ask questions. Once again, Thank You for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh President-Texas Cave Conservancy 512-249-2283 mikewaus...@austin.rr.com
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
Thanks for the update, Mike, and all you and the TCC do for Texas caves! It's a real shame when trespassers and cavers (who definitely should know better) flaunt the rules and policies governing access. I'd like to see a list of caves that we have lost access to, due to unauthorized access by cavers (whom once again, should have known better). River Styx and some after hours unauthorized trips in Carlsbad come to mind. Must be several more that slip my feeble memory. Sigh, Mark From: Mike Walsh [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:25 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such as changing cloths in the parking lot of a public park. Cavers in their underwear, and less, have made it difficult to keep cave open. As a result, all authorized trips will be for cave management activities such as cave clean up, the bi-annual monitoring, fire ant control and inspection, etc. These trips will be set up by the Texas Cave Conservancy. We will host an annual cave clean up and restoration visit. The next clean up day will be Saturday -February 23, 2013. If you are interested in assisting us in conducting the cave management activities, send us your name in an e-mail to tcc-ca...@austin.rr.comWe will place you on the list and contact you prior to our work project. Further, the TCC would like to make it very clear to Texas cavers that steps have been taken to alert law enforcement when unauthorized visitation is taking place. The TCC now has to notify the cave owner prior to each authorized visit. A Neighborhood Watch system is in place to observe the cave. A house near the cave can easily observe people entering the cave and call for law enforcement. In addition, electronic monitoring should greatly increase the number of trespassers arrested. We have been notified that all unauthorized visitors that are detected will be arrested and charged with trespassing. This will include cavers. We want to thank all of the cavers that worked with us to protect the cave. Your work has made a difference. The TCC has done everything possible, short of these new actions, to prevent problems. I will be at the Texas Caver's Reunion in October if you would like to ask questions. Once again, Thank You for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh President-Texas Cave Conservancy 512-249-2283 mikewaus...@austin.rr.com
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
Thanks for the update, Mike, and all you and the TCC do for Texas caves! It's a real shame when trespassers and cavers (who definitely should know better) flaunt the rules and policies governing access. I'd like to see a list of caves that we have lost access to, due to unauthorized access by cavers (whom once again, should have known better). River Styx and some after hours unauthorized trips in Carlsbad come to mind. Must be several more that slip my feeble memory. Sigh, Mark From: Mike Walsh [mailto:mikewaus...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:25 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such as changing cloths in the parking lot of a public park. Cavers in their underwear, and less, have made it difficult to keep cave open. As a result, all authorized trips will be for cave management activities such as cave clean up, the bi-annual monitoring, fire ant control and inspection, etc. These trips will be set up by the Texas Cave Conservancy. We will host an annual cave clean up and restoration visit. The next clean up day will be Saturday -February 23, 2013. If you are interested in assisting us in conducting the cave management activities, send us your name in an e-mail to tcc-ca...@austin.rr.comWe will place you on the list and contact you prior to our work project. Further, the TCC would like to make it very clear to Texas cavers that steps have been taken to alert law enforcement when unauthorized visitation is taking place. The TCC now has to notify the cave owner prior to each authorized visit. A Neighborhood Watch system is in place to observe the cave. A house near the cave can easily observe people entering the cave and call for law enforcement. In addition, electronic monitoring should greatly increase the number of trespassers arrested. We have been notified that all unauthorized visitors that are detected will be arrested and charged with trespassing. This will include cavers. We want to thank all of the cavers that worked with us to protect the cave. Your work has made a difference. The TCC has done everything possible, short of these new actions, to prevent problems. I will be at the Texas Caver's Reunion in October if you would like to ask questions. Once again, Thank You for working with the Texas Cave Conservancy. Mike Walsh President-Texas Cave Conservancy 512-249-2283 mikewaus...@austin.rr.com
[Texascavers] Resend - Hello!? - Request for officers for 2013 - The TSA Wants YOU To Volunteer!
Sorry. It's early! It should read that I've had ZERO response for TSA VICE CHAIR. Mark From: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:38 AM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] Hello!? - Request for officers for 2013 - The TSA Wants YOU To Volunteer! The crickets are chirping so loudly that I thought I better re-announce this. It's been a week since I announced the beginning of the 2013 officer nomination process for the TSA. So far, I have had two people respond with their interest in serving as TSA Secretary. Thanks you so much (you know who you are)! That's the good news. The bad news is that we have had ZERO response for TSA Secretary. This is definitely very bad news, as we are on course for no TSA Convention this spring, unless someone steps up! Please consider this and volunteer. We need some new blood to step up! Thanks, Mark From: Alman, Mark @ SSG - WSG - EOS Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:44 AM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] Request for officers for 2013 - The TSA Wants YOU To Volunteer! (Borrowing from one of Ron Ralph's excellent past emails from when he was the TSA Nominations Chair). Cavers: It is once again time to consider running for office. The Texas Speleological Association needs your hat in the ring for the 2013 election at the Texas Caver Reunion. The positions are for one year and duties are outlined below. Knowing your reluctance to volunteer for any position, I am asking your friends (ha!) to suggest to me that you will be a fine candidate. I will then contact you and ask if you will run and serve. Our present officers (2012) are: President - Don Arburn (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) Vice-President - Ellie Watson (OPEN. Ellie is standing down, after many years of superb service to the TSA). Secretary - Denise Prendergast (OPEN. Denise is standing down, after many years of excellent record keeping for the TSA). Treasurer - Michael Cicherski (standing, unless someone REALLY wants to run) This is the first call for nominations. Please respond with your thoughts on possible candidates at your earliest convenience. Sincerely, Mark Alman, TSA Elections Committee Chair September 17, 2012 214-289-9181 - Cell Duties of TSA Officers Nominations for TSA officers are in progress. This page is an excerpt from the TSA Constitution describing the duties of TSA Officers. Article IV: Officers A. The Executive Council consists of the Chairman, Vice-Chairman, Secretary, Treasurer and the Chair of each standing committee. Elected officers shall take office on the first day of the New Year. 1. The Chairman, when present, shall preside over all TSA meetings. 2. The Vice-Chairman is responsible for meeting and program arrangements and shall preside at TSA meeting is the absence of the Chairman. 3. The Secretary records the minutes of TSA meetings and maintains a current list of members. 4. The Treasurer keeps track of TSA assets by maintaining adequate financial records, including those for The Texas Caver. The Treasurer prepares a budget for the fiscal year, maintains the membership database, and insures the database is available electronically to the membership. B. A vacancy in any elected office other than that of Chairman may be filled by the Executive Council by appointing any full member in good standing or by special election if so desired by the Executive Council. C. The Vice-Chairman shall fill a vacancy in the office of Chairman. D. Officers may be removed from their position by a three-quarters majority vote at any Member Meeting. NOTES: The vice chair has historically organized the TSA spring convention, in other words, No Vice Chair = No TSA Convention! And the chairman is responsible for organizing the TSA business meetings...ie preparing agendas, scheduling the meeting...keeping things moving at the meetingsand being a speleo-referee to keep things civil.
RE: [ot_caving] FW: Israeli War Imminent?
The majority of this below is false. Please refer to http://www.snopes.com/politics/israel/iranwar.asp Mark From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:09 AM To: Off-Topic Texas Cavers; Mandy holt; Jenny Holt; 'bbat...@gmail.com'; 'Jacquetta Breedlove'; 'Steve Ashmore'; Chris Young; 'Bob Rathbun'; Reed Moraw; 'Guy H Heath'; 'Guy H Heath'; Henri Childers; Sally Dearing; 'whisenh...@sbcglobal.net'; 'John Edwards'; 'James E. Wagner'; 'Janice Vieira'; 'James E. Wagner' Subject: [ot_caving] FW: Israeli War Imminent? Inside information for those concerned about world conflicts and their effects on the USA. Fritz Subj: Israeli War Imminent? I received the following from a reliable friend and fellow correspondent today, 09/18/12: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:28 PM Subject: Israel War Imminent? Received 9/11/2012 from a close friend. Time to really increase the prayer time. I am sending this to those of you I know that care about Israel and are prayer warriors. My brother and his family live in Jerusalem - he is a minister - and a former Navy SEAL - his office is close to one of Israel 's largest underground military bases. He called me last night which is very unusual - usually it is email. He called to tell me that he is sending his family back to the US immediately due to what he is seeing happen within the last week and what he is being told by his military contacts in both the Israel and US military. He said he is seeing with his own eyes military movements the likes of which he has never seen in his 20+ years in Israel . What he called a massive redeployment and protective tactics of forces is underway. Over the last two days he has seen anti-aircraft missile deployments throughout the Jerusalem area including 3 mobile units that he can see from his office windows. In addition, he has seen very large Israeli armored columns moving fast toward the Sinia where Egypt has now moved in Armor. There are reports of the top military leaders meeting with Israel 's Sr. Rabi which is something that has happened preceding every prior military campaign. His admonition is to watch carefully and pray for Israel and its people. He is convinced that barring something extraordinary Israel will attack Iran - with or without the US - and very soon. It is the belief in Israel that Obama does not stand with Israel but with the Arab countries. He has told me before that Israel will saber rattle from time to time but that this time is very different from what he is seeing and hearing. He was at the Wailing Wall 2 days ago and there were hundreds of IDF soldiers there. As he was leaving he passed at least 20 military buses full of soldiers in route to the wall. He has never seen this before either. Just thought I would pass this along. My brother is not an alarmist by any means. When he talks like this it gets my attention for sure and usually I find he knows more than he shares. There are reports that Israel is asking Obama to come to Israel immediately but they are being answered with silence. My opinion is that I see the making of the perfect storm. EMAIL ETIQUETTE: If you forward my email message, please, delete my email address, use bcc, and thereby, avoid spam. Thank you! 8^) =
