[tw] Re: [TWC] new tiddlers creation from type list

2014-06-14 Thread julien bouchez
Hi all

I made the title space free and removed unecessary %22 at the end

forEachTiddler
where
'tiddler.tags.contains(twTypes)' 
   write 
 ' newJournal title:$1__0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss focus:%22title%22 text:{{
store.getTiddlerText(%22+tiddler.title+Template%22)/}/} label:
+tiddler.title+ [[+tiddler.title+]] [[$1]]\\'
  begin
 'new...'


I get something cleaner than previously :

title :
testTiddler_2014_06_14_09_07_52

tags
Constants testTiddler

text
{{store.getTiddlerText(ConstantsTemplate)/}/}

I am allmost there... I just can't figure out how to have this store to 
work.

Anyone ?

Regards

Julien


On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:51:37 PM UTC+2, julien bouchez wrote:

 ...still have a problem ...

 it makes tiddlers like this : Constants @ testTiddler

 title
 %22testTiddler

 tags
 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 Constants testTiddler %22

 text
 {{store.getTiddlerText(ConstantsTemplate)/}/}

 ... still looking at it




 On Friday, June 13, 2014 9:54:33 PM UTC+2, julien bouchez wrote:

 Hi all

 mistake at the end :

 \\'

 would work fine

 Thank you all

 Julien

 On Friday, June 13, 2014 9:46:50 PM UTC+2, julien bouchez wrote:

 Eric,

 thank you for the  = %22  I knew I was messing with double quote but 
 did no know how to google for equivalence...

 in [[testTiddled]] I get :

 newJournal title:%22testTiddler _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 
 focus:%22title%22 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22CompanyTemplate%22)/}/} 
 label:%22Company Company testTiddler%22// newJournal 
 title:%22testTiddler _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22ConstantsTemplate%22)/}/} label:%22Constants 
 Constants testTiddler%22// newJournal title:%22testTiddler 
 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22PartsTemplate%22)/}/} label:%22Parts Parts 
 testTiddler%22// newJournal title:%22testTiddler 
 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22PeopleTemplate%22)/}/} label:%22People 
 People testTiddler%22// newJournal title:%22testTiddler 
 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22PlanningTemplate%22)/}/} label:%22Planning 
 Planning testTiddler%22// newJournal title:%22testTiddler 
 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:store.getTiddlerText(%22QuotationsTemplate%22)/}/} label:%22Quotations 
 Quotations testTiddler%22//

 I don't know why it does not start the newJournal macro...


 On Friday, June 13, 2014 8:11:58 PM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Friday, June 13, 2014 10:41:56 AM UTC-7, julien bouchez wrote:

 [[FetNewHere]]
 forEachTiddler
  where
  'tiddler.tags.contains(twTypes)' 
  write 
  ' newJournal title:$1 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss focus:title 
 text:{{store.getTiddlerText(+tiddler.title+Template)/}/}
 label:+tiddler.title+ [[+tiddler.title+]] [[$2]]//'
 
 I don't manage to have this last piece of code working.
 Could you please help me ?


 Your use of double-quotes is the problem.  ForEachTiddler clauses (such 
 as the write) clause, use single-quotes to surround the entire clause 
 and 
 double-quotes to construct the string expression within that clause. 
  However, the string expression you are using contains TW macro syntax 
 which uses double-quotes around it's parameters.  Unfortunately, you can't 
 nest the double-quotes... so the first double-quote in your macro syntax 
 ENDS the ForEachTiddler string expression, rather than being literal 
 quotes 
 in the output.

 One way to avoid this is to use the javascript hex code for the 
 literal quote characters: %22

 forEachTiddler
  where
  'tiddler.tags.contains(twTypes)' 
  write 
  ' newJournal title:%22$1 _0MM_0DD_0hh_0mm_0ss%22 focus:%22title%22 
 text:{{store.getTiddlerText(%22+tiddler.title+Template%22)/}/}
 label:%22+tiddler.title+ [[+tiddler.title+]] [[$2]]%22//'
 

 Let me know how it goes...

 enjoy,
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Re: [tw] Updated Classic parser for TW5

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi BJ

Thanks, that's great, much appreciated.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:06 AM, BJ buggy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy,
 the command

 git log --diff-filter=D --summary plugins/tiddlywiki

 will pickout the commits for deletions.
 You will need to checkout the files from the commit previous to the one
 that deleted them i.e.

 git checkout  b006cf163f783cee0d06fc7c21414dcafd149d90~1
 plugins/tiddlywiki/tw2parser/wikitextparser.js
 git checkout  b006cf163f783cee0d06fc7c21414dcafd149d90~1
 plugins/tiddlywiki/tw2parser/wikitextrules.js

 then commit them back into the tree

 cheers

 BJ


 On Friday, June 13, 2014 4:50:23 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi BJ


 Hi Jeremy, I ready to submit a pull request, however your original
 tw2parser is not currently visible on your tree. Can you create a branch of
 tiddlywiki5 with the tw2parser reinstated so that I can re-apply my
 changes, that way we will have a proper history.
 cheers


 I'm not sure if my GitHub knowledge is up to this. How would I find the
 right version to reinstate, and how would I reinstate it?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 BJ


 On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:05:56 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi BJ

 Superb, very happy to see this. I'd welcome a pull request when you're
 ready.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:57 PM, BJ bugg...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have updated the tw2parser plugin for tw5 v5.0.12
 It now supports sections and slices.
 I have put in a framework for handle the tw2 macro calls and have put
 in the tabs as well as the slider macro.
 The code is at https://github.com/buggyj/TiddlyWiki5/tree/tw2parser
 see the demo: http://twclassic-with-tw5.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: [TWC] new tiddlers creation from type list

2014-06-14 Thread Eric Shulman


 text
 {{store.getTiddlerText(ConstantsTemplate)/}/}

 I am allmost there... I just can't figure out how to have this store to 
 work.


Try changing /}/} to just }}

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Eigeldinger

hi Jeremy,

got it working on my system.
currently using the code from the github repo.

maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you 
can nicely jump to each tiddler.
maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not 
like it all that much. *smile*
screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types 
of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or 
not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.


cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days 
or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's 
code.


greetings,
simon




Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi Simon


as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.


Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
(it's on the roadmap as better ARIA support). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup TW
generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the ticket.


btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:


Hi all,

I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't know
what those do either.

would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
apropriate labels.

btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe soneone
could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might need.


i have linux and windows machines.

greetings and thanks,
simon

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[tw] Re: FeT - For Each Tiddler Questions.

2014-06-14 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Heureka.

Thanks a lot...
Jan

Am 14.06.2014 01:14, schrieb Eric Shulman:

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:29:09 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Wow, what a change a little ' can do...
The script works fine now allso when it is called in the Template.
One last wish: Is there a way to supress the reportline for the
tiddlers where the field important is undefined?


The following script will produce the same output as before, but will 
skip any tiddlers that do not have the important field defined... 
and, if no tiddlers have that field, then the entire output is skipped.

|
script
varpre=@@font-size:2em;[img(30px,)[Tag.png]] Denken an:\n;
varpost=@@;
varout=;
vartids=store.getTiddler($1).getLinks();
for(vari=0;itids.length;i++){
varval=store.getValue(tids[i],important);
if(val)out+=Für [[+tids[i]+]]: +val+\n
}
if(out.length)returnpre+out+post;
/script
|

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[tw] Re: [TWC] new tiddlers creation from type list

2014-06-14 Thread julien23
Hi Eric

I have already tried
...Template%22)}}
according to whatever's saying but I get the red

new... Error in macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error in 
macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error in macro 
newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal

...Template%22)\}\}
does not make it any better

On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:34:18 AM UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 text
 {{store.getTiddlerText(ConstantsTemplate)/}/}

 I am allmost there... I just can't figure out how to have this store to 
 work.


 Try changing /}/} to just }}

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[tw] (TWc) Can't transcluded tiddler containing checkboxes

2014-06-14 Thread magev958
Hi all
I've created a tiddler containg checkboxes using the plugin CheckBoxPlugin 
from http://www.tiddlytools.com/#CheckboxPlugin. I'd like to use it in the 
ViewTemplate for edit field in ViewMode. But when I tried to transcluded it 
into an other tiddler it is blank.
 
I've setup this tiddlySpace - 
http://magnus-evald-orchidelirium.tiddlyspace.com/
 
any help appreciated
/Magnus

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[tw] Re: [TWC] new tiddlers creation from type list

2014-06-14 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:57:03 AM UTC-7, julien23 wrote:

 I have already tried
 ...Template%22)}}
 according to whatever's saying but I get the red

 new... Error in macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error 
 in macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error in macro 
 newJournal Error in macro newJournal Error in macro newJournal

 click on the red text to show a popup with the actual error message 
returned by the macro.  This may provide the clue to what is wrong.

Note: it's possible that using %22 in the ForEachTiddler context may not be 
correct.  Try using \ (backslash-doublequote) instead.

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[tw] Re: (TWc) Can't transcluded tiddler containing checkboxes

2014-06-14 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 3:32:02 AM UTC-7, magev958 wrote:

 I've created a tiddler containg checkboxes using the plugin CheckBoxPlugin 
 from http://www.tiddlytools.com/#CheckboxPlugin. I'd like to use it in 
 the ViewTemplate for edit field in ViewMode. But when I tried to 
 transcluded it into an other tiddler it is blank.
  
 I've setup this tiddlySpace - 
 http://magnus-evald-orchidelirium.tiddlyspace.com/


This seems very strange.  Your [[test]] tiddler seems to be correctly 
invoking tiddler checkboxSummer, and that *should* display the content 
from that tiddler.  Does the problem only occur when the transcluded 
tiddler contains checkboxes?  If the problem is with the checkbox handling, 
then it should still render the heading text that occurs before the 
checkboxes.  If you remove all the checkbox syntax from [[checkboxSummer]], 
can you get the remaining text (the headings) to display?

-e

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Birthe C
Hi Simon

Knowing nothing about screenreaders, programming and all that. Do you think 
hint text on the buttons would solve your problem?
Maybe you would like to try it out? In the link following I have tried to 
put text on at least some of the buttons for tiddlercontrols and 
pagecontrols.
The link is to an empty TW 5 from Tiddlywiki.com with the above mentioned 
changes only.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22820223/EmptyTW5_5.0.12.html

Birthe
Sorry if I am totally misunderstanding.



On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+2, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:

 hi Jeremy, 

 got it working on my system. 
 currently using the code from the github repo. 

 maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki: 
 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before 
 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search. 
 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close. 
 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere 
 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you 
 can nicely jump to each tiddler. 
 maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not 
 like it all that much. *smile* 
 screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types 
 of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or 
 not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables. 

 cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days 
 or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's 
 code. 

 greetings, 
 simon 




 Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston: 
  Hi Simon 
  
  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. 
  
  Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with 
 screenreaders 
  (it's on the roadmap as better ARIA support). It would be great to get 
  your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements. 
  
  Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup 
 TW 
  generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've 
  added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here: 
  
  https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650 
  
  If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the 
 ticket. 
  
  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe 
  soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i 
  might need. 
  
  You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install 
  TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here: 
  
  http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js 
  
  Best wishes 
  
  Jeremy 
  
  
  
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, simon.ei...@vol.at javascript: 
 wrote: 
  
  Hi all, 
  
  I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around. 
  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. 
  i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the 
  screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more. 
  maybe they just include a icon and no text. 
  for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled 
  correctly. 
  i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't 
 know 
  what those do either. 
  
  would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no 
  apropriate labels. 
  
  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe 
 soneone 
  could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might 
 need. 
  
  
  i have linux and windows machines. 
  
  greetings and thanks, 
  simon 
  
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[tw] [TW5] ViewTemplate equivalent

2014-06-14 Thread ParisWiki
Hi,

In TW5 what is the equivalent of ViewTemplate in TWC, in order to not 
publish the author and the modification date for each tiddler?

Thank you,
JCG

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Simon,

Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.

I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title attributes
to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page controls. I'd be
grateful if you could let me know how they work with the screen reader:

http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/

(Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and haven't
started the other updates).

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger simon.eigeldin...@vol.at
 wrote:

 hi Jeremy,

 got it working on my system.
 currently using the code from the github repo.

 maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
 can nicely jump to each tiddler.
 maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not like
 it all that much. *smile*
 screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
 elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
 visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.

 cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
 so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.

 greetings,
 simon




 Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

  Hi Simon

  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.


 Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
 (it's on the roadmap as better ARIA support). It would be great to get
 your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

 Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup TW
 generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
 added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

 If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the ticket.

  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

 soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
 might need.

 You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
 TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:

  Hi all,

 I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
 as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
 i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
 screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
 maybe they just include a icon and no text.
 for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
 correctly.
 i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
 know
 what those do either.

 would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
 apropriate labels.

 btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
 soneone
 could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
 need.


 i have linux and windows machines.

 greetings and thanks,
 simon

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[tw] [TW5] ViewTemplate equivalent

2014-06-14 Thread Alberto Molina
Oops!

The tiddler is $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle.

Sorry.

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
 I've started making the changes

The changes are in github in the accessibility branch:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/accessibility

Best wishes

Jeremy


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wrote:

 Hi Simon,

 Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.

 I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title
 attributes to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page
 controls. I'd be grateful if you could let me know how they work with the
 screen reader:

 http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/

 (Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and
 haven't started the other updates).

 Best wishes

 Jeremy




 On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger 
 simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:

 hi Jeremy,

 got it working on my system.
 currently using the code from the github repo.

 maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
 can nicely jump to each tiddler.
 maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not
 like it all that much. *smile*
 screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
 elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
 visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.

 cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
 so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.

 greetings,
 simon




 Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

  Hi Simon

  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.


 Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
 (it's on the roadmap as better ARIA support). It would be great to get
 your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

 Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup
 TW
 generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
 added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

 If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the
 ticket.

  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe

 soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
 might need.

 You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
 TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:

  Hi all,

 I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
 as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
 i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
 screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
 maybe they just include a icon and no text.
 for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
 correctly.
 i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
 know
 what those do either.

 would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
 apropriate labels.

 btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
 soneone
 could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
 need.


 i have linux and windows machines.

 greetings and thanks,
 simon

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[tw] Re: Drop-down list bug

2014-06-14 Thread ikemitsu
Forgot to mention: it appears only when Tags selected.

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[tw] [TW5] Anchor within a tiddler

2014-06-14 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Tiddlywiky is not intended for that type of use. 
Did you tried substories? Check it out at tiddlywiky.com 

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 accessibility

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Eigeldinger

hi jeremy,

thanks.
looks good so far.
the toolbar biuttons are now labeled properly.

greetings,
simon

Am 14.06.2014 19:51, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

I've started making the changes


The changes are in github in the accessibility branch:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/compare/accessibility

Best wishes

Jeremy


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wrote:


Hi Simon,

Thanks for the feedback. I've added a couple of points to the ticket.

I've started making the changes by applying aria-label and title
attributes to the view and edit toolbar buttons, and the three page
controls. I'd be grateful if you could let me know how they work with the
screen reader:

http://tw5test.tiddlyspot.com/

(Note that I've only addressed the toolbar buttons I mentioned, and
haven't started the other updates).

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Simon Eigeldinger 
simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:


hi Jeremy,

got it working on my system.
currently using the code from the github repo.

maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki:
1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before
2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search.
3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close.
4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere
5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you
can nicely jump to each tiddler.
maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not
like it all that much. *smile*
screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types of
elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or not
visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables.

cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days or
so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's code.

greetings,
simon




Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

  Hi Simon


  as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.




Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with screenreaders
(it's on the roadmap as better ARIA support). It would be great to get
your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements.

Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup
TW
generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've
added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650

If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the
ticket.

  btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe



soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i
might need.

You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install
TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, simon.eigeldin...@vol.at wrote:

  Hi all,


I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around.
as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader.
i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the
screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more.
maybe they just include a icon and no text.
for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled
correctly.
i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't
know
what those do either.

would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no
apropriate labels.

btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe
soneone
could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might
need.


i have linux and windows machines.

greetings and thanks,
simon

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[tw] [TW5] Transcluded object frame for pdf and web pages

2014-06-14 Thread andrew harrison
Hi again,
 My frame viewer displays either pages or files within an object frame.
 I'm having trouble with the styling. I know it should be moved to the
stylesheet if deviating from native styling. I was hoping there is existing
classes that I could use? I wish there was a list somewhere. I wanted it to
expand to the full size of the tiddler except at the top for the title and
link with no padding on the sides and bottom and still have rounded corners.
 Here is what I have so far:

$:/objectframe

\define objfra() [[$(title)$|$(path)$]] object type=text/html
data=$(path)$ style=width:100%;height:545px;/object

objfra

Tiddler with transcluded object frame template

$set name=path value=http://www.tiddlywiki.com;
$set name=title value={{!!title}}
{{$:/objectframe}}
/$set/$set

!-- Textual data in a zTXt chunk with duplicate words and spaces
removed and hidden using comment tags --

My working example: http://t3d.tiddlyspot.com/#Tiddlywiki

Any suggestions welcome.

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[tw] [TW5] Comprehensive WikiText documentation

2014-06-14 Thread jack . binysh
I'm new to TiddlyWiki, and looking for a guide to WikiText - the one found 
at  http://tiddlywiki.org/ seems out of date on some points, and the one at  
http://tiddlywiki.com/  doesn't seem complete yet. Is there a more 
comprehensive guide anywhere?

Thanks,
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Comprehensive WikiText documentation

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jack

Which version of TiddlyWiki are you using? The documentation at
http://tiddlywiki.org/ covers the older Classic versions of TiddlyWiki.
The new version 5 at tiddlywiki.com is not fully backwards compatible, and
has significant differences in the wikitext syntax. The documentation at
tiddlywiki.com only covers the new version.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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 I'm new to TiddlyWiki, and looking for a guide to WikiText - the one found
 at  http://tiddlywiki.org/ seems out of date on some points, and the one
 at  http://tiddlywiki.com/  doesn't seem complete yet. Is there a more
 comprehensive guide anywhere?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Anchor within a tiddler

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi JCG

 Can you help me in creating anchors withing tiddlers in order to create
internal and external links to specific div of a tiddler ?

There's no support for internal links within tiddlers at the moment. It's a
common request though.

A design principle of TiddlyWiki is to develop a comprehensive system for
aggregating and composing individual tiddlers into interactive
visualisations. The focus is on structures and operations between tiddlers
(the smallest unit of information), rather than within them. The TiddlyWiki
approach is to cut your content up into the smallest semantic units and
then thread them together with links and tags. The benefit is that smaller
chunks of content are more reusable.

Best wishes

Jeremy





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Re: [tw] [TW5] Transcluded object frame for pdf and web pages

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Andrew

The new external tiddler feature coming in 5.0.13 looks like it might be
useful for you.

For image tiddlers (gif, jpg, pdf, png etc.) and HTML tiddlers, you can now
set a field called _canonical_uri that points to the actual content of
the tiddler (the text field is ignored, and so should be omitted). These
external tiddlers are viewed as an IMG, EMBED or IFRAME as appropriate. You
can see an experiment here:

https://twitter.com/TiddlyWiki/status/476990101269282816

Under Node.js there is support for building a standalone HTML file with
selective external tiddlers; the images are automatically copied to an
/images/ folder.

Best wishes

Jeremy.





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andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi again,
  My frame viewer displays either pages or files within an object frame.
  I'm having trouble with the styling. I know it should be moved to the
 stylesheet if deviating from native styling. I was hoping there is existing
 classes that I could use? I wish there was a list somewhere. I wanted it to
 expand to the full size of the tiddler except at the top for the title and
 link with no padding on the sides and bottom and still have rounded corners.
  Here is what I have so far:

 $:/objectframe

 \define objfra() [[$(title)$|$(path)$]] object type=text/html 
 data=$(path)$ style=width:100%;height:545px;/object

 objfra

 Tiddler with transcluded object frame template

 $set name=path value=http://www.tiddlywiki.com;
 $set name=title value={{!!title}}
 {{$:/objectframe}}
 /$set/$set

 !-- Textual data in a zTXt chunk with duplicate words and spaces removed and 
 hidden using comment tags --

 My working example: http://t3d.tiddlyspot.com/#Tiddlywiki

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Comprehensive WikiText documentation

2014-06-14 Thread jack . binysh
I'm using TiddlyWiki 5.0.12, so version 5 -  I had guessed that was the 
difference between the two sets of documentation. There are some topics 
covered on tiddlywiki.org that do not seem to have a corresponding topic on 
tiddlywiki.com  http://tiddlywiki.com- an example would be monospacing 
text, which seems to work differently in TW5, but I'm not quite sure how. 
Is there a way of knowing where the differences between Classic and TW5 
are? Thanks for the help.

Jack

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 Hi Jack

 Which version of TiddlyWiki are you using? The documentation at 
 http://tiddlywiki.org/ covers the older Classic versions of TiddlyWiki. 
 The new version 5 at tiddlywiki.com is not fully backwards compatible, 
 and has significant differences in the wikitext syntax. The documentation 
 at tiddlywiki.com only covers the new version.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



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 found at  http://tiddlywiki.org/ seems out of date on some points, and 
 the one at  http://tiddlywiki.com/  doesn't seem complete yet. Is there 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Comprehensive WikiText documentation

2014-06-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jack

 an example would be monospacing text, which seems to work differently in
TW5

The new syntax is described here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Formatting%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BFormatting%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BCode%20Blocks%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D

 Is there a way of knowing where the differences between Classic and TW5
are?

Quite a while ago pmario put together this comparison:

http://compare-tw2-tw5.tiddlyspace.com

I'd like to have a summary tiddler on tiddlywiki.com of the syntax
differences - contributions welcome :)

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:25 PM, jack.bin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm using TiddlyWiki 5.0.12, so version 5 -  I had guessed that was the
 difference between the two sets of documentation. There are some topics
 covered on tiddlywiki.org that do not seem to have a corresponding topic
 on tiddlywiki.com  http://tiddlywiki.com- an example would be
 monospacing text, which seems to work differently in TW5, but I'm not quite
 sure how. Is there a way of knowing where the differences between Classic
 and TW5 are? Thanks for the help.

 Jack


 On Saturday, June 14, 2014 9:55:30 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Jack

 Which version of TiddlyWiki are you using? The documentation at
 http://tiddlywiki.org/ covers the older Classic versions of
 TiddlyWiki. The new version 5 at tiddlywiki.com is not fully backwards
 compatible, and has significant differences in the wikitext syntax. The
 documentation at tiddlywiki.com only covers the new version.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy



 On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:29 PM, jack@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm new to TiddlyWiki, and looking for a guide to WikiText - the one
 found at  http://tiddlywiki.org/ seems out of date on some points, and
 the one at  http://tiddlywiki.com/  doesn't seem complete yet. Is there
 a more comprehensive guide anywhere?

 Thanks,
 Jack

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[tw] Re: [TW5] ViewTemplate equivalent

2014-06-14 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Odder,

Works! I didn't know.

Its a better solution than mine.

Thanks,

Alberto

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[tw] Re: (TWc) Can't transcluded tiddler containing checkboxes

2014-06-14 Thread magev958
I did an other test transcludeing the CheckboxPlugin and it works fine. Seems 
to only be the checkbox syntax making a mess of things?

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[tw] [TW5] Question about the filter operator: list

2014-06-14 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi,

If I write the following in a new tiddler on tiddlywiki.com

$list filter=[[HelloThere]tags[]]
{{!!list}}
/$list

I get, as expected, the contents of the list field of the tiddlers which 
are used as tags of [[HelloThere]]. In this case, its the contents of the 
list field of the tiddler [[introduction]].

But if I write:

$list filter=[[HelloThere]tags[]list[]]/

I do not get the same results. The above code shows the contents of the 
list field of [[HelloThere]] instead of [[introduction]]. Why?

Am I wrong expecting the same results or is there something wrong in the 
code?

Alberto


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[tw] Re: (TWc) Can't transcluded tiddler containing checkboxes

2014-06-14 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 3:18:07 PM UTC-7, magev958 wrote:

 I did an other test transcludeing the CheckboxPlugin and it works fine. 
 Seems to only be the checkbox syntax making a mess of things?


I downloaded a copy of your tiddlyspace so I could experiment a bit.  I can 
create NEW tiddlers that use and transclude the checkbox syntax 
correctly... but the existing tiddlers [[checkboxSummer]] and [[test]] 
don't work (as you reported).  I also examined the generated DOM elements 
in the online tiddlyspace, and the 'viewer' DOM element for the rendered 
[[test]] tiddler is *empty*... which suggests that the tiddler macro is 
completely failing to transclude [[checkboxSummer]], rather than some kind 
of error in rendering the transcluded checkbox content.

As an experiment, try editing [[checkboxSummer]] and removing *all* the 
checkbox syntax, but leave the heading content does the transclusion 
into [[test]] work then?  If it doesn't, then the problem isn't with the 
checkbox syntax, but with something else about transcluding that tiddler. 
 If the heading content does appear, then it may be necessary to use a 
javascript debugger to figure out what is happening.

-e



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Transcluded object frame for pdf and web pages

2014-06-14 Thread andrew harrison
 Thanks Jeremy for the heads up about the new external tiddler feature
coming. I look forward to it. Until then I continued working on my object
viewer.
I've moved styling to my stylesheet and with some additional I'm now happy
with how it looks at least on my tablet. I hope it doesn't break or
interfere with TW5 internal workings.
This viewer displays either pages or files within an object frame. The view
fills and still has rounded corners.

Here is what I have so far:

$:/stylesheet

/* TIDDLERS WITH OBJECT VIEWER WITH ROUNDED CORNERS */
html .tw-object-frame {
 border-bottom-right-radius: 1em;
 border-bottom-left-radius: 1em;
 -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 1em;
 -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 1em;
 webkit-border-bottom-right-radius: 1em;
 webkit-border-bottom-left-radius: 1em;
 margin: 0 -42px -61px -42px;
 width: calc(100% + 84px);
 min-height: 80%;
}

$:/objectframe

\define objfra() [[$(title)$|$(path)$]] object type=text/html
data=$(path)$ class=tw-object-frame/object

objfra

Tiddler with transcluded object frame template

$set name=path value=http://www.tiddlywiki.com;
$set name=title value={{!!title}}
{{$:/objectframe}}
/$set/$set

!-- Textual data in a zTXt chunk with duplicate words and spaces
removed and hidden using comment tags so full content searchable --

My working example: http://t3d.tiddlyspot.com/#Tiddlywiki

Any suggestions welcome.

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