date:20171108

Thanks BJ

Just saving out of inkscape with plain SVG Fixed it for me, drag and drop 
worked.

Tony

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:35:26 PM UTC+11, BJ wrote:
>
> There was a thread way back, see
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/9QuUTfGGgCQ/Q3oJVBFH0uMJ
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:43:40 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Birthe,
>>
>> Yes, I have had a close look, Trying to copy path values and more. I 
>> Imagine Jeremy or someone knows the difference or limitations between a 
>> TiddlyWIki svg and a standard one. I would hope there is a translation 
>> process. 
>>
>> I can actual generate some from some apps that work, but I am keen to 
>> transform an existing one with substantial edits and save.
>>
>> Let us see what we get.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 2:26:54 PM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> First take a look at the svg in tiddlywiki. You will find that they are 
>>> not complete SVG image documents; it is fragment of a HTML document. They 
>>> do not have the type image/svg+xml.
>>> It is not easy to get results with all icons. 
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

2017-11-08 Thread BJ

hi Jed,
Sounds like the watch component could be useful when developing plugins 
using node.

BJ

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:38:48 PM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> NOTE: This only works on the node version of tiddlywiki.
>
> Because I am not using them separately and I don't know of a good reason 
> to separate them for now, I combined the two plugins into one and made them 
> work well.
>
> With this plugin you can have a multi-user tiddlywiki when running on 
> node. It is pretty much like the demo from before but this one works 
> better. And prevents multiple browsers from editing the same tiddler. And 
> hopefully just runs smoother in general.
>
> The code can probably be made a bit more efficient in some places but it 
> is ready for beta testing. I have designed in with the idea of having a 
> single tiddlywiki process serving multiple wikis and being able to 
> selectively server specific tiddlers to each connected browser, but those 
> features aren't ready yet.
>
> This plugin has three distinct parts that I don't know if I should split 
> into separate plugins or not since they don't do much on their own:
>
> A file system monitoring component that watches for changes and pushes the 
> changes to connected wikis as they happen, so you don't need to refresh the 
> server.
> A web sockets component that could be used to connect to any web socket 
> server, but for now it only connects the browser to the node process for 
> two-way communication.
> An annoying but necessary bit of code that determines which changes need 
> to get pushed to which wikis and what to ignore to prevent infinite 
> updating loops. If I never touch this code again I will be happy.
>
> Does anyone have an opinion about if any of the pieces should get their 
> own plugin?
>
> As part of this I had to add some more hooks to the navigator widget. I 
> will make a pull request on GitHub because it doesn't affect what the 
> navigator widget does at all but it was necessary for this, so maybe other 
> people will find it useful.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] SVG Files Creatin and Importation

2017-11-08 Thread BJ

There was a thread way back, see

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/9QuUTfGGgCQ/Q3oJVBFH0uMJ

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:43:40 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Thanks Birthe,
>
> Yes, I have had a close look, Trying to copy path values and more. I 
> Imagine Jeremy or someone knows the difference or limitations between a 
> TiddlyWIki svg and a standard one. I would hope there is a translation 
> process. 
>
> I can actual generate some from some apps that work, but I am keen to 
> transform an existing one with substantial edits and save.
>
> Let us see what we get.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 2:26:54 PM UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> First take a look at the svg in tiddlywiki. You will find that they are 
>> not complete SVG image documents; it is fragment of a HTML document. They 
>> do not have the type image/svg+xml.
>> It is not easy to get results with all icons. 
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] SVG Files Creatin and Importation

2017-11-08 Thread Birthe C

Hi Tony,

First take a look at the svg in tiddlywiki. You will find that they are not 
complete SVG image documents; it is fragment of a HTML document. They do 
not have the type image/svg+xml.
It is not easy to get results with all icons. 

Birthe


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)



On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 5:13:26 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Coda,
>
> Outside the tiddlywiki node js platform Jed is building this for, I almost 
> have a practical way of exporting commands from tiddlywiki to the Operating 
> system. Node or single file.
>
>
And then you'll need the "watch" plugin to pick it up and know what to do 
with it -- or am I missing something?
 

> My only hump is to export files with my desired file extension without 
> being forced to use txt .tid and .json (cry for help)
>

http://tiddlywiki.com/#Creating%20a%20custom%20export%20format

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

2017-11-08 Thread Birthe C

I experience the same as Mark explains in Firefox on Windows on my best 
computer. The unexplainable is, that Firefox on Linux Mint Mate 17.3 on my 
10  year old laptop - only 32 bit and with 2gb ram I have no problems at 
all. I am synchronizing, so I am rather sure they are used in the same way 
for the same things.

Can anyone explain that to me?


Birthe

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpot.com down - or only me?

2017-11-08 Thread AndrewMc

Yes, I too can confirm this issue. This just highlights the saving/upload 
issue for me as I have been editing my TW solely on Tiddlyspot and have no 
way to upload an edited local copy.

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 1:25:57 PM UTC+13, Pedruchini wrote:
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> Same problem here.
>
> Is Tiddlyspot dead ?
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpot.com down - or only me?

2017-11-08 Thread Mat

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 1:25:57 AM UTC+1, Pedruchini wrote:
>
> Same problem here.
>
> Is Tiddlyspot dead ?
>

Clearly not dead but, apparently then, something is wrong. I've had 
problems saving all day today so I'll send an alert to the tiddlypspot 
admin.

In case someone here doesn't know what TiddlySpot is:
TiddlySpot is a fantastic service, totally free, that lets you host TWs 
online. 
This is - if not the the first time - then at least one of the *very* few 
times in a *decade* that there is a problem. I have 100+ TWs hosted there 
and assuming things are solved, I strongly continue to recommend it.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpot.com down - or only me?

2017-11-08 Thread Pedruchini

Same problem here.

Is Tiddlyspot dead ?

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

Arlen,

Post Script

 I almost have a practical way of exporting files and commands from 
tiddlywiki to the Operating system. Node or single file.

*My only hump is to export files with my desired file extension without 
being forced to use txt .tid and .json (cry for help)*

However since the settings.json is a json file have you thought of using 
tiddlywiki as an interface, to create and update the settings, file? It 
could code away the complexity for users. But it would need to bypass the 
tiddler formating of the json file.

I am happy to work on this for you. Once I get passed the above hump.

That is a tiddlywiki based generation of those files.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] TiddlySpot.com down - or only me?

2017-11-08 Thread Mat

Does http://tiddlyspot.com/ show 500 Server Error for anyone else?

I do get my TWs to *load*, but I can't save/upload in them.

Tried both Chrome and FF, on Win10.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

Arlen,

I did not see anything on the console with 412 errors that I recall. I am 
now using the latest version a lot so I am giving it a "soak" test.  

Was there a debug setting I should just use the console - in my case, 
Windows 10,  the command window that appears.

Lovely work!

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Diego

As Coda said. The CSS had a typo () not {}, but the simple ; and : will 
work, however the Appear plugin is not there.

I also accidentally left the title in the CSS

.myh (font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic

when it should be

.myh { font-size:18px; }

I prefer
.myh { 
  font-size:18px; 

}

In which I pile more CSS

Regards
Tony


You may nee d to test it in your own wiki then.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 9:28:57 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Tony,
>
> Hm, I cant seem to get that working on tiddlywiki.com
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:20:25 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Diego,
>>
>> Thy this quirky tip, it works for me. I am not certain that semi-colon 
>> and Colon are native wikimarkdown, but it works on tiddlywiki.com
>>
>> Use Semi-colon Title <$appear
>>
>> Eg;
>> ;My Title <$appear...
>>
>> you can also move any css to a stylesheet
>> eg;
>>
>> .myh (font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic
>> )
>>
>> Then use
>>
>> ;.myh My Title <$appear...
>>
>> (notice semi-colon Period CSSname Space} this CSSname is myh
>>
>> This is so useful let me know if it does not work
>>
>> I have styles for .q and .a (question and Answer) which I use as follows
>>
>> ;.q What is the Question?
>> :.a Well the answer once provided is indented below the question and in a 
>> different colour
>>
>> (notice colon Period CSSname Space) this CSSname is a or q
>>
>> Further I have a search in the tiddler footer which lists questions and 
>> answers found in each tiddler at the bottom.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:46:43 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>>>
>>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>>>
>>> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
>>> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
>>> title as:
>>>
>>> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an 
>>>  element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that 
>>> problem, but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which 
>>> doesnt look good (imo). 
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there anyway to solve this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> DIego
>>>
>>

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[tw] Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts?

Folks,

Calling any Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts!

I feel like a meetup, since re-newing my vows with tiddlywiki.

If there is any interest I will set up a meeting, most likely using 
eventbright.

Leave suggestions here as well, as to times; locations, and venues, I have 
a low cost venue in "Broadway/Glebe" (Sydney) and Randwick, then there is 
always a pub or cafe.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

Coda,

Outside the tiddlywiki node js platform Jed is building this for, I almost 
have a practical way of exporting commands from tiddlywiki to the Operating 
system. Node or single file.

My only hump is to export files with my desired file extension without 
being forced to use txt .tid and .json (cry for help)

This may not seem exactly on topic, but it is simply the inverse of "to 
monitor and notify the tiddlywiki of other files"

That is a tiddlywiki based generation of those files.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

Magev,

What exactly is the relationship you want to highlight? They should already
be in a hierarchy in your wiki if you did it correctly.

I presume you have children tagging parents and looked at the TagglyTagging
for TW5 of Tobias (great for automatic hierarchies based on the current
tiddler), you could also use the count widget to provide totals of the
children or siblings of every tiddler (put it in the viewteplate).

If the issue is your hierarchy has too many children in each level you can
do at least the following;
Establish additional categories and divide each group into subgroups at
each level, alternatively if this would be too much work and not applicable
just divide a list of siblings alphabetically with a first letter, or in
the case of naming conventions there are often classes prefixes in the name.

You could set a field for your grouping prefix in each tiddler, or you
could use Prefix[A] in a filter to list all beginning with A

Ask again if you cant work it out.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

FF took memory and didn't give it back. If you read the talk about it blame 
was often put on extensions. But extensionless it did the same after a 
short while. The memory handling was from the start a mess. Its been used 
as a bit of a trojan horse to dump extensions in the process of becoming 
chrome mate-able. Its memory is better now, though still greedyish, 
recoverable. But i don't think most of that is due to ditching the orphans.

J.

Mark S. wrote:
>
> This is real hoarding though. Giving it more memory would probably make 
> things worse. Gradually, no matter how many tabs I have open, the total FF 
> memory grows. Somewhere around 2g it becomes unstable and crashes if I 
> don't restart first. Typically I need to restart once or twice a day. By 
> contrast, I can leave Chrome up for days and it stays down around 300m per 
> thread. It's looking like the new FF will avoid that problem, but of course 
> I'm still using it lightly.
>
> It's entirely possible that one or more of the extensions that I'm using 
> is locking in the memory. The way extensions use memory is part of the 
> reason for the change, the people at Moz say.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:50:19 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> On Memory hoarders, for Chrome and Firefox, I recently realised that 90% 
>> of what I do is in browsers, at least with the work on my plate, and my 
>> growing network of tiddlywikis on my desktop class laptop.. 
>>
>> As a result I realised I needed the browsers to be first class citizens, 
>> as apps on my computer and I have configured them to use more memory than 
>> they do by default. My new computer has 16GB of RAM so giving 1-2GB a 
>> browser where I spend most of my time was a no brainer. 
>>
>> I still have performance issues occasionally, I have still not 
>> identified, they come when I am tired and less patient, and cant think in 
>> the gaps. They seem to be some indeterminate issues with internet speed, 
>> and browser performance.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

2017-11-08 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017 23:05:24 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin a écrit :
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017 22:45:41 UTC+1, Jed Carty a écrit :
>>
>> No, everything from Gatekeeper is included in this new version.
>>
>
> OK, so I just test it but didn't see any save function when I create a new 
> tiddler, like node.js version. If I manualy save, it download file like 
> standolone. But I can see tid file in subfolder tiddlers.. If I refresh my 
> TW in browser, I don't see anu tiddler previously created..
>
> Edit : if a reload with another port (:8081 for example), I can see 
> history tiddler now.
> If I edit a tiddler on my mobile phone, I can see your icon lock.
>
>
> 
>
>
For your information, if I delete a tiddler, I can see on other device 
"Missong tiddler - clic to create" on river in live mode. But if I recreate 
the same tddler, It can't refresh this message and we can see error log on 
terminal.

But it's real live mode for normal editing. Congrats and keep working on it 
! Thanks Jed.

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings



On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:28:57 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Tony,
>
> Hm, I cant seem to get that working on tiddlywiki.com
>
>
Typo:

.myh {font-size:18px; }


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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

This is real hoarding though. Giving it more memory would probably make 
things worse. Gradually, no matter how many tabs I have open, the total FF 
memory grows. Somewhere around 2g it becomes unstable and crashes if I 
don't restart first. Typically I need to restart once or twice a day. By 
contrast, I can leave Chrome up for days and it stays down around 300m per 
thread. It's looking like the new FF will avoid that problem, but of course 
I'm still using it lightly.

It's entirely possible that one or more of the extensions that I'm using is 
locking in the memory. The way extensions use memory is part of the reason 
for the change, the people at Moz say.

Mark

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:50:19 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> On Memory hoarders, for Chrome and Firefox, I recently realised that 90% 
> of what I do is in browsers, at least with the work on my plate, and my 
> growing network of tiddlywikis on my desktop class laptop.. 
>
> As a result I realised I needed the browsers to be first class citizens, 
> as apps on my computer and I have configured them to use more memory than 
> they do by default. My new computer has 16GB of RAM so giving 1-2GB a 
> browser where I spend most of my time was a no brainer. 
>
> I still have performance issues occasionally, I have still not identified, 
> they come when I am tired and less patient, and cant think in the gaps. 
> They seem to be some indeterminate issues with internet speed, and browser 
> performance.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Hey Tony,

Hm, I cant seem to get that working on tiddlywiki.com

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:20:25 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Diego,
>
> Thy this quirky tip, it works for me. I am not certain that semi-colon and 
> Colon are native wikimarkdown, but it works on tiddlywiki.com
>
> Use Semi-colon Title <$appear
>
> Eg;
> ;My Title <$appear...
>
> you can also move any css to a stylesheet
> eg;
>
> .myh (font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic
> )
>
> Then use
>
> ;.myh My Title <$appear...
>
> (notice semi-colon Period CSSname Space} this CSSname is myh
>
> This is so useful let me know if it does not work
>
> I have styles for .q and .a (question and Answer) which I use as follows
>
> ;.q What is the Question?
> :.a Well the answer once provided is indented below the question and in a 
> different colour
>
> (notice colon Period CSSname Space) this CSSname is a or q
>
> Further I have a search in the tiddler footer which lists questions and 
> answers found in each tiddler at the bottom.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:46:43 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>>
>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>>
>> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
>> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
>> title as:
>>
>> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an 
>>  element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that 
>> problem, but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which 
>> doesnt look good (imo). 
>>
>>
>> Is there anyway to solve this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> DIego
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Diego,

Thy this quirky tip, it works for me. I am not certain that semi-colon and 
Colon are native wikimarkdown, but it works on tiddlywiki.com

Use Semi-colon Title <$appear

Eg;
;My Title <$appear...

you can also move any css to a stylesheet
eg;

.myh (font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic
)

Then use

;.myh My Title <$appear...

(notice semi-colon Period CSSname Space} this CSSname is myh

This is so useful let me know if it does not work

I have styles for .q and .a (question and Answer) which I use as follows

;.q What is the Question?
:.a Well the answer once provided is indented below the question and in a 
different colour

(notice colon Period CSSname Space) this CSSname is a or q

Further I have a search in the tiddler footer which lists questions and 
answers found in each tiddler at the bottom.

Regards
Tony

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:46:43 AM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>
> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>
> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
> title as:
>
> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
> <>
> 
>
> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an  
> element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that problem, 
> but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which doesnt 
> look good (imo). 
>
>
> Is there anyway to solve this?
>
> Thanks!
> DIego
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)



On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:02:42 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jed,
>
> I see no reason for the plugin to be divided for the solution you have 
> given us, however see my coments why I think you may
>  
>
>> This plugin has three distinct parts that I don't know if I should split 
>> into separate plugins or not since they don't do much on their own: 
>>
>
>> A file system monitoring component that watches for changes and pushes 
>> the changes to connected wikis as they happen, so you don't need to refresh 
>> the server.
>>
>
> Could this be used to monitor and notify the tiddlywiki of other files, 
> say to auto catalogue files placed in a folder? I could go a long way with 
> this.
>
> A web sockets component that could be used to connect to any web socket 
>> server, but for now it only connects the browser to the node process for 
>> two-way communication.
>>
>
> Can we use this to integrate with other solutions and services? 
>


Jed,

Yeah, I'm with Tony on this... BIG +1

I'd certainly like to monitor (watch) folders for other things.  The 
results (a message) is posted to TW to announce the event and a button 
clicked to send a "start this script" (exec in node?) on the server side 
(same machine usually).

THAT would be seriously useful.  I think I read a post here where someone 
was asking about running apps using TW as the client.

Any showstopper security issues doing something like this?
 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

2017-11-08 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017 22:45:41 UTC+1, Jed Carty a écrit :
>
> No, everything from Gatekeeper is included in this new version.
>

OK, so I just test it but didn't see any save function when I create a new 
tiddler, like node.js version. If I manualy save, it download file like 
standolone. But I can see tid file in subfolder tiddlers.. If I refresh my 
TW in browser, I don't see anu tiddler previously created..

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

Jed,

I see no reason for the plugin to be divided for the solution you have 
given us, however see my coments why I think you may
 

> This plugin has three distinct parts that I don't know if I should split 
> into separate plugins or not since they don't do much on their own: 
>

> A file system monitoring component that watches for changes and pushes the 
> changes to connected wikis as they happen, so you don't need to refresh the 
> server.
>

Could this be used to monitor and notify the tiddlywiki of other files, say 
to auto catalogue files placed in a folder? I could go a long way with this.

A web sockets component that could be used to connect to any web socket 
> server, but for now it only connects the browser to the node process for 
> two-way communication.
>

Can we use this to integrate with other solutions and services? 


> Does anyone have an opinion about if any of the pieces should get their 
> own plugin?
>
>  
One idea I had that could use the architecture of your solution was a 
separate log of every tiddler that changes, such that all changes could be 
retrieved, as a result of the activities of multiple users on multiple 
wikis.

Lovely work,

I will be testing this in coming days.

Tony
 

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

Mark,

On Memory hoarders, for Chrome and Firefox, I recently realised that 90% of 
what I do is in browsers, at least with the work on my plate, and my 
growing network of tiddlywikis on my desktop class laptop.. 

As a result I realised I needed the browsers to be first class citizens, as 
apps on my computer and I have configured them to use more memory than they 
do by default. My new computer has 16GB of RAM so giving 1-2GB a browser 
where I spend most of my time was a no brainer. 

I still have performance issues occasionally, I have still not identified, 
they come when I am tired and less patient, and cant think in the gaps. 
They seem to be some indeterminate issues with internet speed, and browser 
performance.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

thanks again BJ! That does it! 

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:51:25 PM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>
> try
>
> Tagged with Test Topic<$appear 
> show="»" hide="«">
> <>
> 
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:27:41 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Thanks BJ - That does indeed make the text larger, but does not actually 
>> match the full "style" of the h2 tag. I dont know much about CSS, but Ill 
>> start looking into it.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:37:01 PM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> maybe
>>>
>>> @@font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic@@<$appear show="»" 
>>> hide="«">
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:46:43 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:

 Hello all,

 I have been using Tobias' appear widget

 https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear

 to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
 visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
 title as:

 !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
 <>
 

 The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an 
  element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that 
 problem, but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading 
 which 
 doesnt look good (imo). 


 Is there anyway to solve this?

 Thanks!
 DIego

>>>
>>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

No, everything from Gatekeeper is included in this new version.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

2017-11-08 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017 21:41:28 UTC+1, Jed Carty a écrit :
>
> I forgot to add the link to the GitHub repo. It has installation 
> instructions. https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-MultiUser
>

Hi Jed, for sure I'll test this new repo. Great news ! (I read previous 
thread).
So we don't need to test Gatekeeper anymore ?

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 3:20:23 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:

Even though I've had a twitter account for years, I still don't
understand how it all works. When I go to @Firefox, it's all twinkles and
sunbeams with a few technical questions in between.

I know EXACTLY what you mean. It's annoying as hell. I've spent countless
hours "helping" by filing damn good bug report on bugzilla too -- that's a
very hit or miss affair.

I assume they somehow suppress any negativity from their followers.

I don't think that's possible. Really. Thing is, there's enough traffic
(tweets) that any individual tweet is just lost in the noise.

Is there a way to see the actual comment flow to @Firefox?

Assuming you're viewing twitter in the browser, click on a tweet -- any
responses will appear below.

I know there must be some push-back,

There is: https://twitter.cm/CodaCoder/status/928323164974727168 -- every
chance I get I moan about the same thing. They raved about the big switch
to react (in the debugger), raved about going open source with it on
github; what did we get? A far worse debugger UX. it was only after months
and months of nagging they added (wait for it) watches. A debugger that
can't watch variables? What???

One responder on twitter said "Join the #slack group", been there, done
that, all "twinkles and sunbeams" like you said. Waste of time.

because the forum on mozilla has an almost unbroken stream of
individuals expressing in eloquent, impassioned mini-essays their concern
for what is happening. None of them get answered, of course.

Yep, I've read them, too. I don't know what the answer is (not sure I even
care any more). They've certainly lost a ton of brownie points over this
in my view.

(sorry about weird formatting above -- GG did something weird when I pasted
the twitter link -- notepad to the rescue!)

Coda

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

There was ONE thread of great significance in a dev group at Mozilla in 
which the "Saving Problem" was debated at length many moons ago. TiddlyWiki 
featured in it. It went nowhere. I can't find it now.

Twitter doesn't really have threads unless you elect to reply to a reply. 
You just ignore stuff that is a pain in the ass and then it stays in the 
void.

On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:20:23 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Even though I've had a twitter account for years, I still don't understand 
> how it all works. When I go to @Firefox, it's all twinkles and sunbeams 
> with a few technical questions in between. I assume they somehow suppress 
> any negativity from their followers. Is there a way to see the actual 
> comment flow to @Firefox? I know there must be some push-back, because the 
> forum on mozilla has an almost unbroken stream of individuals expressing in 
> eloquent, impassioned mini-essays their concern for what is happening. None 
> of them get answered, of course.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:08:38 PM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> I already tried and failed.
>>
>> coda coder wrote:
>>>
>>> Condense that to 280 chars and tweet it @Firefox @FirefoxNightly 
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

Even though I've had a twitter account for years, I still don't understand 
how it all works. When I go to @Firefox, it's all twinkles and sunbeams 
with a few technical questions in between. I assume they somehow suppress 
any negativity from their followers. Is there a way to see the actual 
comment flow to @Firefox? I know there must be some push-back, because the 
forum on mozilla has an almost unbroken stream of individuals expressing in 
eloquent, impassioned mini-essays their concern for what is happening. None 
of them get answered, of course.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:08:38 PM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I already tried and failed.
>
> coda coder wrote:
>>
>> Condense that to 280 chars and tweet it @Firefox @FirefoxNightly 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

I already tried and failed.

coda coder wrote:
>
> Condense that to 280 chars and tweet it @Firefox @FirefoxNightly 
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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> They do promise it will be 2x faster and 33% less memory. My FF is  
> definitely a memory hoarder.
>

A faster chrome? Good luck to them keeping any long-term advantage on an 
overall approach they fell in bed with. 

J.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

I forgot to add the link to the GitHub repo. It has installation 
instructions. https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-MultiUser

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[tw] [TW5] Presenting: the MultiUser wiki plugin (formerly Gatekeeper and TiddlyWebSockets)

NOTE: This only works on the node version of tiddlywiki.

Because I am not using them separately and I don't know of a good reason to
separate them for now, I combined the two plugins into one and made them
work well.

With this plugin you can have a multi-user tiddlywiki when running on node.
It is pretty much like the demo from before but this one works better. And
prevents multiple browsers from editing the same tiddler. And hopefully
just runs smoother in general.

The code can probably be made a bit more efficient in some places but it is
ready for beta testing. I have designed in with the idea of having a single
tiddlywiki process serving multiple wikis and being able to selectively
server specific tiddlers to each connected browser, but those features
aren't ready yet.

This plugin has three distinct parts that I don't know if I should split
into separate plugins or not since they don't do much on their own:

A file system monitoring component that watches for changes and pushes the
changes to connected wikis as they happen, so you don't need to refresh the
server.
A web sockets component that could be used to connect to any web socket
server, but for now it only connects the browser to the node process for
two-way communication.
An annoying but necessary bit of code that determines which changes need to
get pushed to which wikis and what to ignore to prevent infinite updating
loops. If I never touch this code again I will be happy.

Does anyone have an opinion about if any of the pieces should get their own
plugin?

As part of this I had to add some more hooks to the navigator widget. I
will make a pull request on GitHub because it doesn't affect what the
navigator widget does at all but it was necessary for this, so maybe other
people will find it useful.

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Thanks BJ - That does indeed make the text larger, but does not actually 
match the full "style" of the h2 tag. I dont know much about CSS, but Ill 
start looking into it.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:37:01 PM UTC-6, BJ wrote:
>
> maybe
>
> @@font-size:18px;Tagged with Test Topic@@<$appear show="»" 
> hide="«">
> <>
> 
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:46:43 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>>
>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>>
>> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
>> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
>> title as:
>>
>> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an 
>>  element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that 
>> problem, but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which 
>> doesnt look good (imo). 
>>
>>
>> Is there anyway to solve this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> DIego
>>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

Ciao magev

As far as I understand botany species and sub-species can be represented 
via a tree structure? That could work in TW visually as there are several 
visual tools for that. I'm just not sure if plant hybrids fit that 
neatness. IF it sounds like a simple branching visual way to depict 
hierarchy could work let me know and I'll dig out some examples.

Best wishes
Josiah


On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:50:43 UTC+1, magev958 wrote:
>
> I have created a private wiki about my orchids. Each genus has got its own 
> tiddler that links to each species within the genus.
> Now I would like to show the relationship between the subfamily (5) -> 
> tribus (22) -> subtribus (58) -> genus (769) -> species (27863) but I do 
> not really know, without it gets far too big.
> I would like to have some ideas about how and what it could be done. Any 
> idea, no matter how crazy :)
> /Magnus
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Mysteriouse leading and Training space

I don't think this would have worked at all without wikify. The tricky 
thing is, just because you see text on screen doesn't mean that you can 
pass it to a macro.

So you see
 
[tag[tag1]] [tag[tag2]] -[tag[tag3]] 

but that's a rendering illusion. Because it was made inside of loops, 
what's actually there is something like:


"[tag[tag1]]"#"[tag[tag2]]"#"-[tag[tag3]]"

where # is some sort of white space character (possible even new line 
characters).

This sort of thing would leave you banging your head for hours before the 
Wikify widget. Now you can just turn the "perceived" text into a real text 
string and pass it to a variable.

This syntax:

<>" >>

would definitely not work because <> is inside of strings 
and so will be passed literally to the list-links macro which wouldn't know 
what to do with it.

This syntax:

<> >>

Doesn't work either. I've never been able to get a macro short cut 
(<>) to work inside of another macro short-cut. In situations where 
I need a macro called by a macro, I use <$macrocall>.

Good luck!
Mark

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 11:58:01 AM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks, That was perfect. works like a dream.
>
> Can you tell me Is this just that wikify removes the leading or trailing 
> spaces?
>
> If so could it be said to be  "work around" or is this a common need 
> because of artefacts such as this occurring?, or am I missing something?
>
> I will try and publish the resulting solution. 
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 1:26:51 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hey that's looking pretty good. Invoke it like this:
>>
>> <$wikify name=filt text="<>">
>> <$macrocall $name="list-links" filter=<> />
>> 
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:07:29 AM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I almost have a simple Boolean tag search see discussion working. 
>>> However 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I am bugged by the following, which does everything I want but results 
>>> in leading and trailing spaces in the resultant macro value. This seems to 
>>> be enough to stop any filter using this value.
>>>
>>> \define displaymyfilter()
>>> <$list filter="[list[EditInput!!input]]" variable=item>
>>> <$list filter="[!prefix[+]!prefix[-]]" variable=tagfilter>
>>> [tag[<>]] 
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[+]]+[removeprefix[+]]" variable=tagfilter>
>>> +[tag[<>]] 
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[-]]+[removeprefix[-]]" variable=tagfilter>
>>> -[tag[<>]] 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> Debug: Source Field "one two -three" Comes from {{EditInput!!input}}Debug: 
>>> My Constructed Filter " [tag[one]] [tag[two]] -[tag[three]] " Output of 
>>> <>Note: The leading and Trailing spaces in my 
>>> constructed filter.
>>>
>>>
>>> Which means
>>>
>>>
>>> <>" >>
>>>
>>>
>>> Throws a display error, does not work, multiple formats tried! also 
>>> <$list...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tiddler ends with a <$set>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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[tw] Re: savertiddlers release candidate (0.3)

Ok seems to work -- but you have to restart FF.

Win 7, FF 57.0 (64bit)

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 11:16:58 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:
>
> oops! I forgot to bump the version number on the instruction, now its done.
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:09:41 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Is there a different version number for Windows? It says vsn 0.2 after 
>> following the directions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 10:46:19 AM UTC-8, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have produced a release candidate, version 0.3, so I will use it over 
>>> the next couple of days, and would ask that others do likewise. Provided 
>>> they are no issues I will then make the first release.
>>>
>>> Again the install instructions are here:  
>>> https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> BJ
>>>
>>
>>
>

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[tw] Welcomes ideas for how visually display the relationships between MANY tiddler

2017-11-08 Thread magev958

I have created a private wiki about my orchids. Each genus has got its own 
tiddler that links to each species within the genus.
Now I would like to show the relationship between the subfamily (5) -> 
tribus (22) -> subtribus (58) -> genus (769) -> species (27863) but I do 
not really know, without it gets far too big.
I would like to have some ideas about how and what it could be done. Any 
idea, no matter how crazy :)
/Magnus

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[tw] Re: savertiddlers release candidate (0.3)

2017-11-08 Thread okido

Hi BJ,

I tried following: version 0.3, TWc 2.9.0 beta3 and 2.5.0 on openSuse 13.2 
and FF57beta.
Disabling backups in the plugin and enable backups in TW gives the proper 
folders, no extra folders are created.
But saving backups is failing, 1 out 2 backups are not saved.
The download message is: readTiddlySaverInstruction57136378393.html, failed 
blob-source, once you restart the download the is the backup is made.

Have a nice day, Okido

Op woensdag 8 november 2017 19:46:19 UTC+1 schreef BJ:
>
>
> I have produced a release candidate, version 0.3, so I will use it over 
> the next couple of days, and would ask that others do likewise. Provided 
> they are no issues I will then make the first release.
>
> Again the install instructions are here:  
> https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers
>
> All the best
> BJ
>

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Sorry for not being clear! This still "kicks" the appear off the line 
resulting in the unwanted visual appearance. 

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:06:44 PM UTC-6, coda coder wrote:
>
> I haven't tested this or used the widget...  have you tried...
>
> heading text <$appear ...
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:46:43 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>>
>> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>>
>> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
>> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
>> title as:
>>
>> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an 
>>  element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that 
>> problem, but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which 
>> doesnt look good (imo). 
>>
>>
>> Is there anyway to solve this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> DIego
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

I haven't tested this or used the widget...  have you tried...

heading text <$appear ...

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:46:43 PM UTC-6, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been using Tobias' appear widget
>
> https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear
>
> to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
> visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
> title as:
>
> !! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
> <>
> 
>
> The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an  
> element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that problem, 
> but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which doesnt 
> look good (imo). 
>
>
> Is there anyway to solve this?
>
> Thanks!
> DIego
>

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[tw] Tobias' Appear Widget and Headings

Hello all,

I have been using Tobias' appear widget

https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#appear

to collapse longer sections of a tidder. The problem is I find it more 
visually appealing to have the appear widget appear next to the section 
title as:

!! Tagged with Test Topic <$appear show="»" hide="«">
<>


The problem is that this wraps everything in the appear content in an  
element. If I put the appear on the next line, this solves that problem, 
but visually, it just creates a small ">>" under the heading which doesnt 
look good (imo). 


Is there anyway to solve this?

Thanks!
DIego

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

Condense that to 280 chars and tweet it @Firefox @FirefoxNightly 

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:01:32 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Cari tutti
>
> I'm looking back. Reluctantly. 
>
> The transition of Firefox to 57 marks a point.
>
> The TiddlyWiki issues are the LEAST of it. TW now has multiple ways of 
> saving thanks to a great community of folk who care to gift the many ways 
> to go on.
>
> But I STILL have many problems that keep me on Firefox ESR holding back as 
> long as possible.
>
> The change to "web extensions" is a shift to "web restrictions." 
> Empirically there is virtually NO evidence the retired Firefox extension 
> API ever led to any serious issue. Show me any data it was actually abused. 
> But  there is an issue about misplaced paranoia.
>
> MY issue NOW is  NOT TiddlyWiki in FireFox. Its everything else. The 
> environment I created. 
>
> The ability through extensions to Edit Before Print, to  exactly Manage 
> Tabs, to have searchable Scrapbook of web downloaded pages (about 3,000), 
> to Customise the Firefox interface etc.
>
> My POINT  is that transfer of TiddlyWiki usage is in a context of material 
> praxis that enfolds many other things that DIE at 57.
>
> The change in Firefox at 57 is one of the worst non-upgradeable ones in 
> computer history.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Opinion: The Scars Of Firefox Will Linger

Cari tutti

I'm looking back. Reluctantly.

The transition of Firefox to 57 marks a point.

The TiddlyWiki issues are the LEAST of it. TW now has multiple ways of
saving thanks to a great community of folk who care to gift the many ways
to go on.

But I STILL have many problems that keep me on Firefox ESR holding back as
long as possible.

The change to "web extensions" is a shift to "web restrictions."
Empirically there is virtually NO evidence the retired Firefox extension
API ever led to any serious issue. Show me any data it was actually abused.
But there is an issue about misplaced paranoia.

MY issue NOW is NOT TiddlyWiki in FireFox. Its everything else. The
environment I created.

The ability through extensions to Edit Before Print, to exactly Manage
Tabs, to have searchable Scrapbook of web downloaded pages (about 3,000),
to Customise the Firefox interface etc.

My POINT is that transfer of TiddlyWiki usage is in a context of material
praxis that enfolds many other things that DIE at 57.

The change in Firefox at 57 is one of the worst non-upgradeable ones in
computer history.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: More keyboard navigation

2017-11-08 Thread PMario

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 3:04:25 PM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> For the most part tiddlywiki doesn't know what tiddler you are looking at. 
>

That's right. ... The main reason always was, that getting this info 
required to hook into the browser scroll event mechanism. ... Which was 
begging for trouble. ... 

Now latest browsers implemented something called: Observers. ... There are 
several of them. IMO the one interesting for use is the "intersection 
observer 
". 
So everyone interested, could have a closer look and report back :)

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: More keyboard navigation

For the most part tiddlywiki doesn't know what tiddler you are looking at. 
That is the biggest problem for navigating the way you are talking about. 
Other people have talked about features like this and to my knowledge we 
don't currently have a way to make any of it work.

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[tw] More keyboard navigation

2017-11-08 Thread Stian Håklev

Hi all,
just beginning to set up my academic knowledge base on Tiddly, and excited 
to see the different approaches people have been taking!

One thing I'm wondering about is more keyboard support for navigation (not 
just editing). I tend to heavily prefer using the keyboard for navigation, 
and I could imagine a bunch of shortcuts for TW - like j/k for 
next/previous open tiddle, / to start a search in the search bar, etc. 
(With j/k, it would be nice if the currently active tiddle had a little 
outline, then clicking enter could open that tiddle for editing etc). While 
reading a tiddle, being able to quickly jump to links would also be awesome 
- but I guess this is more like Vimperator stuff... 

I wonder if anyone is working on these kinds of app/navigation keyboard 
shortcuts, and how hard it would be to add?

thanks!
Stian Håklev

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[tw] Re: How to use list template on a tiddler's fields?

2017-11-08 Thread JD

Oh, that was quick! I'll try this out and post a reply as soon as I'm done 
fiddling. I'm unfamiliar with the SET widget so it'll probably take some 
time for me to understand the internal process. 

About the buttons. I also wanted them to always be shown, but ran across 
the problem of accidentally clicking them during testing... I wonder if 
there's a quick way to set them to "disabled" or something. I know this 
one's solvable via html and CSS, I'll google this one!


On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 10:14:42 PM UTC+9, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I have a few things that may be useful:
>
> 1 - if you know what fields you are going to care about than you can make 
> a list that will display them all doing something like this (it is a bit 
> messy and I haven't tested it, but the general idea should work):
>
> <$list filter='[[fond-title]] [[font-h1]] [[font-h2]]'>
> 
> Heading h1:
> <$tiddler tiddler="TIDDLER A TEMP">
> <$edit-text tiddler="TIDDLER A TEMP" field="font-h1"/>
> <$reveal type=nomatch state="!!font-h1" text="">
> <$button>
> <$set name=CurrentValue filter='[[TIDDLER A TEMP]get]'>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="TIDDLER A" $field=font-h1 $value=<
> >/>
> 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="TIDDLER A TEMP" $field=<> 
> $value=""/>✓
> <$button>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="TIDDLER A TEMP" $field=<> 
> $value=""/>✕
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 2 - I have found that it is also always a better idea to have the values 
> you are editing in another tiddler. Never edit the fields of TIDDLER A from 
> inside TIDDLER A, always use some interface tiddler to edit fields in 
> TIDDLER A, or have some other tiddler like $:/settings/TIDDLER A with the 
> fields you edit and then have TIDDLER A reference those fields. I have 
> found this makes my work much tidier and easier to understand later.
>
> Another note about buttons:  In my experience it is a nicer if you always 
> have the buttons visible and just change the colour when they don't do 
> anything instead of making the buttons disappear. Either move the reveal 
> inside the button widget so that the buttons are always there but only act 
> if there is an action to do, or put a second reveal that has the opposite 
> condition that displays a dummy button that  is greyed out.
> That may be more of a personal preference for me. I am dyslexic and having 
> controls disappear and reappear can change the layout of a page and it is 
> hard for me to follow that.
>

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[tw] Re: How to use list template on a tiddler's fields?