[tw] macro to set or toggle a tiddly tag without displaying a checkbox?
Does anyone know of a macro/plugin that allows a tiddler to set or toggle a tag on another tiddler? I have looked at Eric Shulman's CheckboxPlugin (http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CheckboxPlugin), which is close to what I want. However, I don't want to display the checkbox - I want the tiddler to "algorithmically" set the other tiddler's tag. So for example, something like <> If TiddlerName was tagged with TagName, then "on" does nothing, and "off" or "toggle" would remove the tag. If TiddlerName was not already tagged with TagName, then "on" or "toggle" would add TagName to TiddlerName's tag list, and "off" would remove it. Thanks is advance for any help or direction you can provide. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: macro to set or toggle a tiddly tag without displaying a checkbox?
Thank you! I was aware of lewcid's TaggerPlugin and Eric Shulmans CheckBoxToggleTag, but not of cycleTags. Unfortunately, all of these require user interaction to set the tags. I was looking to set the tags within code. Fortunately, I found the following method which will work, though I found it is quite slow: store.setTiddlerTag("tiddlerTitle",true|false,"tagName") -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] how can you capture that a tag tiddler has been renamed?
I would like to alert when a tag tiddler is about to be saved with a new name in order to give the user the option to update all tiddlers with that tag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: PartTiddlerPlugin : Concatenate rows from various tiddlers into a table ?
Would this work? <> On Nov 26, 4:31 am, julien23 wrote: > I wish I could concatenate rows from various tiddlers in a single > tiddler with ForEachTiddlerPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] I can't get TaggerPlugin to work correctly
http://forposting.tiddlyspot.com/#TestTiddler Above is a link to an empty TiddlyWiki except for the following changes: 1) copy/pasted SaqImtiaz's TaggerPlugin (http://tw.lewcid.org/ #TaggerPlugin) 2) changed ViewTemplate to show the tagger dropdown 3) added TestTiddler with tags "test1" and "test2" Can anyone tell me why the dropdown does not work? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: I can't get TaggerPlugin to work correctly
Thanks, that worked! On Dec 6, 5:37 pm, Mike wrote: > Try Addinghttp://www.tiddlywiki.com/coreplugins.html#DeprecatedFunctionsPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] javascript to display all of a tiddler's tags that are themselves tagged with a certain tag
I am trying to develop my own simplified GTD solution. I am trying to write a script that will display an action item with a checkbox and a filtered tag list. So for example, [ ] "action" depends on: ["action2", "action3", ...] where "action1" is the title of the tiddler that contains information about the action, and that is tagged with (among other things) the names of the other actions which must be completed first ("action1", "action2", etc.). The checkbox will toggle the existence of a "done" tag. And all actions are tagged with "action". So far, I can only get as far as: [ ] "action" depends on: using the inline (wiki) syntax of Eric Shulman's CheckBoxPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/#CheckboxPluginInfo) as follows in a tiddler named DisplayAction: [x($1|done)] [[$1]] depends on: I believe I can use Eric Shulman's InlineJavascriptPlugin (http:// www.tiddlytools.com/#InlineJavascriptPluginInfo) to do the last piece, but I need the javascript code that will display a list of the current tiddler's tags that are themselves tagged with the tag "action". Can anyone help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: javascript to display all of a tiddler's tags that are themselves tagged with a certain tag
Thanks! That got me experimenting...I was able to do it in a single tiddler as follows: [x($1|done){}{}{}] [[$1]] var out=[], n=0, t=store.getTiddler('$1'); tids = store.filterTiddlers("[tag[action]]"); for (var i=0; i0?', ':'') + '['+'['+tids[i].title+']'+']'; } if (out) return '[ @@color: #228B22; '+out+' @@ ]'; The only problem is that the color statement does not get applied to the link that is generated. Any ideas there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: javascript to display all of a tiddler's tags that are themselves tagged with a certain tag
Thank you both Mark and Alex. The inline class assignment worked! For my own education, though, can you explain the significance of ".tiddlyLinkExisting" in the stylesheet? -saverio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ForEachTiddler modification to remove last "/n"
Try > write > (index>1?"\n":"")+'"*[["+tiddler.title+"]]" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ForEachTiddler modification to remove last "/n"
Sorry, my suggestion is an edit of the quoted text, so it appears hidden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Access for multiple users to edit wiki
Try if (config.options.txtUserName != "Me" && config.options.txtUserName ! = "Another guy") { readOnly = true; showBackstage = false;} For other users with edit access, simply keep appending && config.options.txtUserName !="..." to the if condition On Feb 3, 4:59 am, Claudio Li wrote: > Tried the following, but failed (both users cannot edit the wiki) > > if(config.options.txtUserName != "Me") { > readOnly = true; > showBackstage = false;} > > if(config.options.txtUserName != "Another guy") { > readOnly = true; > showBackstage = false; > > } > > On 3 February 2010 03:35, Mike wrote: > > > An alternate method (albeit longer) > > > if (config.options.txtUserName!="SomeName") { > > readOnly=true; > > showBackstage=false;} > > > Each user with editing access would be a new line replacing SomeName > > > Good Luck ! > > > Mike > > > On Feb 2, 11:13 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > Possibly you could try: > > > > readOnly="Name1;Name2;Name3".indexOf(config.options.txtUserName)==-1 ; > > > > As long as the names aren't subsets of each other > > > ("Jon","Joni","Jonis"...) > > > > On Feb 2, 7:33 am, Dusty Jones wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to make my wiki read only for everyone but a few users. I'm > > > > currently doing it by using flagging it read only for everyone but > > > > myself using the > > > > > readOnly=config.options.txtUserName!='My User Name' > > > > > in the loading options. But I want to make it so that more uses can > > > > edit and have default read/write access. Is there a way to do > > > > something like > > > > > txtUserName!='My User Name' OR 'This User Name' OR 'That User Name' > > > > > I'm not familiar with the syntax, but I gave that a shot and it didn't > > > > work out too well :P > > > > > Any help on this is appreciated! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "TiddlyWiki" group. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] What are the advantages/disadvantages of tags vs fields vs slices?
>From reading a number of posts over the last few weeks, I have learned that there are multiple ways to embed structured information within a tiddler. These include tags, custom (or extended) fields, data fields, slices, and form fields. Have I missed any? When is it better to use one over another? For example, I am constructing my own simple TW task manager. I started with tiddlers that are tasks, tagged with "action". Other tiddlers are projects, which are sets of related and sometimes ordered tasks, tagged with "project". A task tiddler can also be tagged with the name of a project to which it belongs, and/or also with the names of any other tasks on which it depends. The problem is that for a given task, there could be multiple tags, one of which is the project to which it belongs, and the others are other tasks on which it depends. To distinguish whether a given tag of a task tiddler refers to a project or another task requires looking up that tag's parent tiddler to determine whether it itself is tagged with either "task" or "project". I am wondering whether there is a simpler way, or whether it would just be more efficient to use custom fields, such as "belongsToProject", and "dependsOnTasks". Another option is to record this information in slices. This question generalizes to how best to annotate tiddlers with semantic tags which encode relationships, such as "isParentOf", "isChildOf", "hasIngredient", "isMemberOf", etc., etc., etc. I like the simplicity and transparency of using just plain vanilla tags, but I think they are not powerful enough. I am interested in others' opinions and experiences. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What are the advantages/disadvantages of tags vs fields vs slices?
On Mar 3, 8:15 am, "Mark S." wrote: > Slices and sections are a convenient, natural way to enter tiddler- > specific data. You don't need to modify your tiddler template (though > you can) or get extra plugins for manipulating them (though you can). > Slices are single lines of information. Sections can be whole > paragraphs or documents. They can be accessed using the <> > transclusion if you get Eric Shulman's WikifyPlugin. (I've added a > patch to the plugin I use to access sections as well) Sections and > fields can be hidden by /%...%/ if you don't want information > cluttering up the tiddler display. The idea of keeping the project a task belongs to and its dependencies on other tasks in two different slices. But how then can one modify the values of the slices in a *controlled* way, ie. a dropdown of available projects with an option to create a new project, or a dropdown of other tasks, without just editing the tiddler and free texting everything? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What are the advantages/disadvantages of tags vs fields vs slices?
On Mar 3, 8:15 am, "Mark S." wrote: > Tags are useful to show relationships (parent-child) between tiddlers, I think tags are ideal for "attributes" of tiddlers. To use them for relationships, other than the simplest and most generic of relationships, is stretching their functionality, unless you supplement with your own code to disambiguate the type of relationship. I think what is missing from TW is semantic tagging. Are there any plans for a "semantic TiddlyWiki", just as Semantic Mediawiki (http://semantic-mediawiki.org) extended vanilla Mediawiki? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What are the advantages/disadvantages of tags vs fields vs slices?
On Mar 3, 9:54 am, Måns wrote: > > But how then can one modify > > the values of the slices in a *controlled* way, ie. a dropdown of > > available projects with an option to create a new project, or a > > dropdown of other tasks, without just editing the tiddler and free > > texting everything? > > As I mentioned - Eric's GridPlugin is very good - Chrck it out.. > > Regards Måns Mårtensson Thank you. If I am interpreting correctly, GridPlugin is a good way to display and *free-text* edit slices of *multiple* tiddlers at a time. I would like to display and *dropdown* edit slices of a *single* (ex. the current) tiddler. I think I will have to create a unique EditTemplate for taska that utilizes ListBoxPlugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: What are the advantages/disadvantages of tags vs fields vs slices?
On Mar 3, 10:36 am, "Mark S." wrote: > Relationships *are* a type of attribute. Very interesting! I see it from the other end - attributes are one type of relationship, which I define as triads of ["source", "relationship type", "target"] - ex. ["George H Bush" "isTheFatherOf", "George W Bush"]. Tags are really dyads, or at least triads where the relationship type is fixed and implied, "hasAttribute". To bring it back to my original problem of task management, if I have a tiddler "A" with tags "task", "B", and "C", the only way to infer that "A" belongs to project "B" and depends on task "C" and not vice versa is to note that "B" is tagged with "project" and "C" is tagged with "task". You are right, > So its all string manipulation, no matter how you get at it. or at least tiddler manipulation. But what if I could enhance tags to explicitly define the relationship type. Then I could have tiddler "A" tagged with "isA(task)", "belongsTo(B)", "dependsOn(C)". These, in essence, are extended fields, but extended fields are more hidden and obscured than tags. I hope that a future version of TW combines the best of both tags and extended fields to make it a truly semantic product. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Which TiddlyWiki adaptation do you like best?
Can you expand on how you take advantage of tagglytagging? Do you mean the idea that a tag can also be its own tiddler? Or do you mean the viewTemplate in MPTW? I guess I am asking, exactly what functionality of tagglytagging (not of MPTW in toto) is not already provided in vanilla TW? thanks -saverio On Mar 9, 3:35 pm, twgrp wrote: > For information management I use MPTW (tagglytagging is essential, to > name one thing) and also one of the TreeView variants (not sure > which...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] How can tiddler titles that appear in custom fields be updated when the tiddler is renamed?
Tiddlers are uniquely identified by their titles. If I rename (or delete) a tiddler that is the tag of another tiddler, I can use Simon Baird's http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#RenameTagsPlugin to make sure the tag is properly updated. But what if the renamed tiddler is the value of another tiddler's extended/custom field? To avoid this problem, I was thinking instead to store in the custom field a different tiddler identifier that is stable across name changes. Does one exist? If not, could someone suggest an approach to creating (and maintaining) one? Alternatively, (question to Simon Baird) could the RenameTagsPlugin be changed to look at custom fields as well as tags? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How can tiddler titles that appear in custom fields be updated when the tiddler is renamed?
Bump -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How can tiddler titles that appear in custom fields be updated when the tiddler is renamed?
I have tiddlers which define tasks, and are tagged as such. Tasks can belong to other tiddlers which are projects, tagged with "project". I currently tag the task tiddler with the project to which it belongs, as well as other tasks on which it is waiting. However, this makes it difficult to distinguish whether a tag is referring to the project the tiddler belongs to or the task on which it depends. If a task depends on a project, then it would be impossible to distinguish the parent project from the dependent project. Therefore, I have been planning to move this information into separate custom fields, "project", and "waitingFor". With the original approach, I could depend on RenameTagsPlugin to ensure integrity if I happened to change the title of a project or task tiddler. But RenameTagsPlugin will not work on custom fields. Therefore, I was thinking to store a different unique reference instead of the tiddler name, so that even if I change the name of a project or task, the reference store in the custom fields would not have to be updated. I think that is what you mean by storing the UUID in the custom field instead of the title. Can you elaborate on that approach? Does TW define a UUID for each tiddler? Thank you! On Mar 14, 6:01 am, FND wrote: > Could you elaborate on your use case? It would help to know why you're > storing tiddler references in custom fields in the first place. > > The obvious option is to use UUIDs as tiddler titles, but that of course > makes linking inconvenient for users. Perhaps you could store a UUID in > a custom field, so lookups later use that field instead of the title? > > -- F. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Can ListBoxPlugin accept a tag expression to determine the list items?
Eric Shulman's excellent ListBoxPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/ #ListboxPluginInfo) does exactly what I want, except I would like to define the list items with tiddlers that define a tag expression rather than just a single tag value. Am I missing something obvious? Or perhaps there is an "easy" workaround? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Can ListBoxPlugin accept a tag expression to determine the list items?
I am enjoying! Works perfectly. Thank you! By the way, have you thought more about what you proposed in the following thread: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/1242ee8bac2d743a/3ee32ae81dd9d954?lnk=gst&q=listboxplugin#3ee32ae81dd9d954 Would this be an extension of ListBoxPlugin, or another plugin altogether? Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ImportTiddlers' control panel won't scroll
When I try to import, such as from TiddlyTools, I correctly get a list of tiddlers, and can choose a subset of them to import, but then it "hangs" while importing. When I click outside of the import box to clear the window and "unhang", I find that the selected tiddlers have NOT been imported. Therefore, I have resorted to copy and paste. Any ideas of what may be going wrong? On Mar 16, 9:29 am, Eric Shulman wrote: > > If you attempt to import a non-TW plain text file, or if the selected > file is not recognized as a valid TW file format and does not contains > a valid "store area" definition (perhaps due to not being saved > correctly), then ImportTiddlersPlugin will not find any tiddlers and > will instead treat the entire file content as a single text tiddler to > be imported. > > -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ImportTiddlers' control panel won't scroll
Great - this fixed my problem, too! Thank you. On Mar 16, 12:14 pm, Eric Weir wrote: > On Mar 16, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Måns wrote: > > > Just for testing - You could disable the ImportTiddlersPlugin in you > > TW (from the backstage) and try to use it from the bookmarkletversion > > on TiddlyToolshttp://tiddlytools.com/#InstantBookmarklets.. > > Regards, > -- > Eric Weir > Decatur, GA USA > eew...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] ToggleScrollingSidebars does not automatically refresh
I am using Eric Shulman's http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ToggleScrollingSidebars. The toggle does not immediately take effect. It appears that I need to open a tiddler before the new setting (either on or off) is enforced. This is not the way the plugin behaves on the tiddlytools website. Please see: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example.html for the minimal tiddlywiki file that shows the problem on Firefox 3.6. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ToggleScrollingSidebars does not automatically refresh
bump. I don't think this delayed behavior is "as designed", because toggling the feature on the TiddlyTools website has an immediate effect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Updating TW on startup
Add to the bottom of PageTemplate: Then add the LoadTiddlers macro to the tiddler SiteStartup. This is courtesy of Eric Shulman (http://www.tiddlytools.com/ #SiteStartup) On Mar 23, 10:48 am, skye riquelme wrote: > > OR can I sneak a LoadTidlers command into the MarkupPreHead > > OR some other way to do it ??? > > Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ToggleScrollingSidebars does not automatically refresh
On Mar 23, 4:35 pm, Mike wrote: I am usng 3.5 with no problems (winxp, 7, vista, 2k) Mike, can I interpret your comment to mean that you downloaded the Dropbox file above to your machine and did not observe the delayed activation of the setting using Firefox 3.5? I don't think it is a TW plugin interaction because the file above is *completely empty* except for ToggleScrollingSidebars and the GettingStarted tiddler. I don't think it is a browser plugin interaction problem because the tiddlytools.com website works properly on the same browser instance (FF 3.6) that shows the problem with the Dropbox file. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] using a macro within the tabs macro
I would like to use the tabs macro as follows: <> "tab2 label" "tab2 tooltip" "tiddler2" >> Based on what seemed a promising discussion (http://groups.google.com/ group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/5aa73a7941df3cf0/ d4f2ed179997e962?lnk=gst&q=tabs+macro#d4f2ed179997e962) [though the request there was the opposite, to embed the tabs macro within newTiddler], I tried enclosing the tiddler macro expression in quotes, breaking up the closing >> into '>' + '>', and enclosing the whole expression in {{ }}, but nothing has worked. Can anyone help me out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using a macro within the tabs macro
Interesting suggestion, but I am unable to get it to work. I've posted a test TW here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example2.html Basically, it consists of a tiddler [[project 1]] which is associated with links, documents, tasks, meetings, and notes. Links and documents are defined within [[project 1]], but tasks, meetings, and notes are independent tiddlers tagged with [[project 1]] and their type. I defined a tiddler [[ProjectInfo]] with the "tabs" and "part" macros that I hoped would bring all related information about a project into one view. It accepts a parameter which is the project name. But as you can see in [[TestProjectInfo]], when [[ProjectInfo]] is called "with:[[project 1]]", the tabs are all empty, instead of displaying what is intended. On Mar 25, 12:20 am, Anthony Muscio wrote: > Try thehttp://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#PartTiddlerPluginplugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using a macro within the tabs macro
I tried before using PartTiddlerPlugin, but was only partially successful, hence my original post. The tabs that reference the slices correctly display, but not the tabs that are populated by the matchTags macro. I uploaded both versions for people to play with. I removed PartTiddlerPlugin from the slices example to rule out an interaction with MatchTagsPlugin. Could there be an issue with MatchTagsPlugin? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example_using_slices.html http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example_using_parts.html On Mar 25, 4:44 pm, Måns wrote: > Hi Saverio > > I would do this in tiddler [[ProjectInfo]] - however it doesn't seem > to work in your tw??!! Maybe theres a conflict with the > parttiddlerplugin - or we found a new bug in TW 2.6?? > I have an (overly complicated (I know - but it works)) example, where > I use all kinds of macros in tabs > here:http://stormp.tiddlyspot.com/#Tr%C3%A6Manager > < 'Tasks' 'Project tasks' [[ProjectInfo##Tasks]] > 'Links' 'Project-related links' [[ProjectInfo##Links]] > 'Documents' 'Important documents' ProjectInfo##Documents > 'Minutes' 'Meeting minutes' ProjectInfo##Minutes > 'Notes' 'Project notes' ProjectInfo##Notes > > /% > !Tasks > <> > !end > !Links > <> > !end > !Documents > <> > !end > !Minutes > <> > !end > !Notes > <> > !end %/ > > Regards Måns Mårtensson > > On 25 Mar., 20:13, Saverio wrote: > > > Interesting suggestion, but I am unable to get it to work. I've > > posted a test TW here:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example2.html > > > Basically, it consists of a tiddler [[project 1]] which is associated > > with links, documents, tasks, meetings, and notes. Links and > > documents are defined within [[project 1]], but tasks, meetings, and > > notes are independent tiddlers tagged with [[project 1]] and their > > type. > > > I defined a tiddler [[ProjectInfo]] with the "tabs" and "part" macros > > that I hoped would bring all related information about a project into > > one view. It accepts a parameter which is the project name. But as > > you can see in [[TestProjectInfo]], when [[ProjectInfo]] is called > > "with:[[project 1]]", the tabs are all empty, instead of displaying > > what is intended. > > > On Mar 25, 12:20 am, Anthony Muscio wrote: > > > > Try thehttp://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#PartTiddlerPluginplugin. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using a macro within the tabs macro
Yes, but I am trying to make [[ProjectInfo]] generic for any project, so I need to be able to send it a parameter. I think that's what causes the macros to break down, because the sent parameter does not get down to the level of the slices/parts, where they are needed. On Mar 25, 6:19 pm, Måns wrote: > Ahaa - This works > [[ProjectInfo]] > < alpha one "ProjectInfo##Foo" > bravo two "ProjectInfo##Bar" > >> > /% > !Foo > <> > !end > !Bar > <^^%5^^" "\n" sort:-modified ->> > !end > %/ > > Please try it out > > Regards Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using a macro within the tabs macro
Thank you both, Måns and Anthony!! The TW support on this Google group is awesome! On Mar 26, 3:05 am, Anthony Muscio wrote: > I am doing something very similar. > > I achieved this using the inline tabs plugin On Mar 26, 3:27 am, Måns wrote: > Hi again > > The 'with-argument' doesn't seem to work inside the tabs macro *but* > it does outside - therefore you can do this*1 - and put it in the > viewtemplate*2 to be shown in tiddlers tagged with project On Mar 26, 4:38 am, Måns wrote: > Here's yet another one using autotabs and > forEachTiddlerPlugin:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3105342/TW/example4.html > > Regards Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using a macro within the tabs macro
Just for closure, I was able to simplify Måns's approach: <> /% !Tasks <> !Minutes <> !Notes <> !end %/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ToggleScrollingSidebars does not automatically refresh
bump ELS, any ideas? On Mar 23, 7:51 pm, Mike wrote: > I did try your tw2.6.0 and a vanilla tw2.5.3 and neither was working > correctly with v2.0 of the transclusion. > I have the old script (1.1.0) and it does work, but requires > InlineJavascripPlugin. > > The best solution is to see if ELS catches this thread and has a > moment to look at it and see what is going on. > > Mike > > On Mar 23, 5:17 pm, Saverio wrote: > > > On Mar 23, 4:35 pm, Mike wrote: > > I am usng 3.5 with no problems (winxp, 7, vista, 2k) > > > Mike, can I interpret your comment to mean that you downloaded the > > Dropbox file above to your machine and did not observe the delayed > > activation of the setting using Firefox 3.5? > > > I don't think it is a TW plugin interaction because the file above is > > *completely empty* except for ToggleScrollingSidebars and the > > GettingStarted tiddler. > > > I don't think it is a browser plugin interaction problem because the > > tiddlytools.com website works properly on the same browser instance > > (FF 3.6) that shows the problem with the Dropbox file. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] trying to use TaggerPlugin in EditTemplate
I want to be able to restrict the selection of tags by group. Saq Imtiaz's TaggerPlugin (http://tw.lewcid.org//#TaggerPlugin) works great in ViewTemplate, but when accessed from edit mode immediately causes the tiddler to go into, and remain in, view mode. The only way to get back is to close and re-open the tiddler. Any ideas of what is going on and how to avoid this? Alternatively, if you can show me to how to restrict tagChooser's list of tags to only those tagged themselves with a certain tag, that would be just as well. thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: trying to use TaggerPlugin in EditTemplate
Looks intriguing. I think I will be able to modify to my needs, but can you tell me exactly which tiddlers I need to import? Just [[x- tagger config]], [[x-tag]], and [[DeliciousTagging]]? On Mar 30, 6:38 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > You could try my variation/mod of Jack's DeliciousTagging... > > http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#DeliciousTagging > > (Look at the tag chosers in edit mode). > > Beware that for using this, you'd have to be able to understand and > configure a few lines of configuration in the sourcecode, especially > the one which asks you to point to your custom tag-caegories (in my > case that would be "x-tagger config##Tags"). Any tags/tag-tiddlers > tagging to whatever you've put in the 'exclude'-array will not be > displayed. > > Here are the minimal config parameters which you might want to > adapted: > > catList:'ATiddlerWithAListOfTags##OrASectionOfATiddler', > catsMore:[], //empty > exclude:[], //or put something like... > ['excludeLists','excludeDelicious'], > > Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: tiddlywiki 5 and html
Any thought paid to supporting semantically rich tagging in TW 5? That is, being able to associate a relationship type with the tag instead of just assuming generic "isA"? Extended fields does this to some extent, but they are hidden and not as easy to use as tags. It would be cool to combine the functionalities of both tags and extended fields. > Yes, I think that the core should provide better support for different > tagging scenarios. > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:jer...@osmosoft.comhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: tiddlywiki 5 and html
I think "simply" (tongue in cheek) 1) extending the tag definition to optionally allow definition of the relationship type as: tags = "conventionalUntypedTag1 isA(tagA) conventionalUntypedTag2 belongsTo(tagB) dependsOn(tagC)" 2) then storing these under the cover as extended fields isA = conventionalUntypedTag1 conventionalUntypedTag2 belongsTo = tagB dependsOn = tagC 3) but enhancing or adding tag access methods that allow retrieval/ editing of the relationship type as well as the tag values would go a LONG way... Thank you for considering! On Apr 1, 10:54 am, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Any thought paid to supporting semantically rich tagging in TW 5? > > That is, being able to associate a relationship type with the tag > > instead of just assuming generic "isA"? Extended fields does this to > > some extent, but they are hidden and not as easy to use as tags. It > > would be cool to combine the functionalities of both tags and extended > > fields. > > I'm currently modelling tags the same as before: as a list of strings, > with no internal structure. > > You could certainly imagine extending the core tagging to include a > relationship type that defaults to "is a", as you suggest. I'd thought > idly in the past about doing this in a lightweight way by supporting > the convention of dealing with tags of the format > :, like Flickr. It'd be interesting to explore > what you think would be the smallest extension to classic TiddlyWiki > that would unlock your desired functionality, > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:jer...@osmosoft.comhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: tiddlywiki 5 and html
Oops, tagA would be stored under the isA extended field, as well: > isA = conventionalUntypedTag1 conventionalUntypedTag2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: GridPlugin - the missing piece ;-)
I've advocated for combining tag functionality with custom field functionality in order to support "semantic tagging" [1], but I may need to wait for TW 5 [2]. [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/b501b9832122e775?hl=en [2] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/33f9cb46d5d15566#50a12a240db4c49b On Apr 9, 12:51 pm, twgrp wrote: > Surely, many more must be interested in editing tags easily in tiddler > lists? Or am I missing something, e.g do fields totally replace tags? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] freezing the title bar
Any suggestions on how to freeze the title bar display so it never scrolls out of view? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: freezing the title bar
Thank you. That is exactly what I want (see http://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd1.html), but I am not sure where to look for the code that implements the frozen header. I don't think it is in PageTemplate. Perhaps in StyleSheet? On Apr 22, 4:38 pm, wolfgang wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > Yann Perin's TweakedTW 1 usees a frozen header. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: freezing the title bar
Hmm, I can get the left and right sidebar menus to lock position, but still can't get the title bar to freeze. I've posted my TW to: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/example4.html If anyone can look at it and help, it would be greatly appreciated. In addition to being able to freeze the header, I also am having trouble having the blue gradient extend down to the bottom of the title bar, and the togglesidebar controls on the left and right hand side of the title bar to display as white. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] closing PopupMacro's popup window with a second click
How can I make SaqImtiaz's PopupMacro (http://tw.lewcid.org/ #PopupMacro) close the popup window when the button is clicked a second time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
What would be the css code to put in the tagcolor field for strikethrough text? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: closing PopupMacro's popup window with a second click
99% there, thank you!! However, re-clicking a *nested* popup button closes the *parent* popup panel. I have a tiddler as follows which popups a list of notes, some of which are tagged with a particular "topic", others of which are unassociated with a topic. The intended display is first to list the topics, which are themselves popups to the list of notes tagged to that topic, followed by a popup button for the unassociated notes: <>/% !Notes < \>"}} "" topic>> <> !TopicNotes <> !UnclassifiedNotes var topics = store.getMatchingTiddlers('topic'); var tagfilter='note', out=''; for(var t=0; t<topics.length; t++) { tagfilter += ' AND NOT ' + topics[t].title; } var notes = store.getMatchingTiddlers(tagfilter); for(var t=0; t<notes.length; t++) { out += (t>0?'\n':'') + '*[[' + notes[t].title + ']]'; } return out; !end%/ On Sep 30, 9:33 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio... > > I have modded PopupMacro and uploaded it to a dedicated tiddlyspace > [1]. This Mod by default works when hovering over a popup button, > instead of clicking. > > You can find a working example in my MainMenu [2]. > > If you want it to work 'old fashion style' via click, you have to > either set the macro parameter "nohover" or put something like this in > a zzConfig tagged systemConfig: > > config.macros.popup.hover=false; > > Cheers, Tobias. > > [1]http://popup.tiddlyspace.com > [2]http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
Thank you! Intersting, because before my post, I had tried color: gray; text-decoration: line-through; This makes the links gray but does not do the strike-through. Dropping the color statement causes the strike-through to display. Reversing the two statement also show strike-through, but no gray! Can I conclude that the two statements are mutually exclusive, and that the first statement takes precedence over subsequent ones? On Sep 30, 10:14 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > > What would be the css code to put in the tagcolor field for > > strikethrough text? > > Ask google ;o) > > {text-decoration: line-through;} > > Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: closing PopupMacro's popup window with a second click
Sorry for the delay. Here is an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4462381/popup.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
Excellent. Thank you! Any thoughts about a methodology for combining styles in tiddlers with multiple styled tags? On Sep 30, 6:44 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverin, > > Great to see you use it! Actually, it looks like the blanks in your > css were the problem, so I (hopefully) corrected the code to allow for > blanks in css definitions. > > Get it from here... > > http://coloredlinks.tiddlyspot.com > > Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
A real use case example is that I have tiddlers that represent tasks. Tasks tagged with 'urgent' are red. However, tasks tagged with 'done' should be displayed with strikethrough. Currently, which style gets displayed is the *first* tag in the tiddler's tag list, not the *last* tag recorded, nor some other "semi-intelligent" algorithm for reconciling. A sophisticated method would be to be able to define a hierarchy of tags, and the system applies the styles sequentially from low to high (higher tags overwriting the style of lower tags when they are mutually exclusive). In my example, completed urgent tasks would be both red and strikedthrough. Not an urgent use case that I need, but something for you to think about in your free time. :-) Thanks! On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > So you mean where the tags that a tiddler is tagging to have different > styles attached? > > Mhhh... dunno if that's such a good idea in general ...but one could > make it an option if it wouldn't require a plethora of code. I'll > think about that. > > On the other hand what would you want that for? ...or are you simply > being playful about what else could be done? > > Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
A real use case example is that I have tiddlers that represent tasks. Tasks tagged with 'urgent' are red. However, tasks tagged with 'done' should be displayed with strikethrough. Currently, which style gets displayed is the *first* tag in the tiddler's tag list, not the *last* tag recorded, nor some other "semi-intelligent" algorithm for reconciling. A sophisticated method would be to be able to define a hierarchy of tags, and the system applies the styles sequentially from low to high (higher tags overwriting the style of lower tags when they are mutually exclusive). In my example, completed urgent tasks would be both red and strikedthrough. Not an urgent use case that I need, but something for you to think about in your free time. :-) Thanks! On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > So you mean where the tags that a tiddler is tagging to have different > styles attached? > > Mhhh... dunno if that's such a good idea in general ...but one could > make it an option if it wouldn't require a plethora of code. I'll > think about that. > > On the other hand what would you want that for? ...or are you simply > being playful about what else could be done? > > Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: NEW: ColoredLinksPlugin
A real use case example is that I have tiddlers that represent tasks. Tasks tagged with 'urgent' are red. However, tasks tagged with 'done' should be displayed with strikethrough. Currently, which style gets displayed is the *first* tag in the tiddler's tag list, not the *last* tag recorded, nor some other "semi-intelligent" algorithm for reconciling. A sophisticated method would allow definition a hierarchy of tags which ColoredLinksPlugin could use to apply styles sequentially from low to high rank (higher-ranked tags overwriting the styles of lower-ranked tags when they are mutually exclusive). In my example, completed urgent tasks would be both red and strikedthrough. Not an urgent use case that I need, but something for you to think about in your free time. :-) Thanks! On Oct 6, 2:34 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > So you mean where the tags that a tiddler is tagging to have different > styles attached? > > Mhhh... dunno if that's such a good idea in general ...but one could > make it an option if it wouldn't require a plethora of code. I'll > think about that. > > On the other hand what would you want that for? ...or are you simply > being playful about what else could be done? > > Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: closing PopupMacro's popup window with a second click
I have not tried more than single-level nesting, but seems to work perfectly so far! Thank you! On Oct 6, 12:56 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > Let me tell you, this was not pretty ...although the result is. ;o) > > After hours of pulling my hair out over infinite loops and rethinking > on how to best rewrite Saq's code from scratch, I've got the baby > working the way you initially hoped... meaning: click-toggle as deeply > nested as you want. > > Now, I have changed the code quite a bit in that there no longer are > any id's given to popups. Instead it's all (!) classes and what's > more... they count up nicely!!! > > There are new parameters:'defaultValue' ...namely: > arrow:'\u25BC' > popClass:'popup' > btnClass:'popbutton' > > When popups and buttons are created they not only get those classes > assigned but depending on their nesting level they also get... > > level1: popup1 / popbutton1 > level2: popup2 / popbutton2 > etc... > > ...whereas if you defined popClass as myPopup, then it would be > myPopup1, myPopup2, etc... > > That way you can have one nested popups thingy that is horizontal and > another one being vertical and you can easily style the different > levels via css as I have done in your document reuploaded here [1]. > > The arrows are now in their own container floating to the right with a > classname of "poplevel". Having those as a parameter allows you to > have different arrows for different nesting levels. > > Note that all styles should be put into StyleSheetPopup. > > I will later on release the thing ... maybe with hover again, if I get > that to work properly. > > Cheers, Tobias. > > [1]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2040050/group/2010.10.06%20popup%20saverio.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: closing PopupMacro's popup window with a second click
By the way, what you have done here also should be applicable to your TagSearchPlugin/QuickOpenTagPlugin combo (when you use the down arrow to display a list of tiddlers with a certain tag). On Oct 6, 12:56 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Hi Saverio, > > Let me tell you, this was not pretty ...although the result is. ;o) > > After hours of pulling my hair out over infinite loops and rethinking > on how to best rewrite Saq's code from scratch, I've got the baby > working the way you initially hoped... meaning: click-toggle as deeply > nested as you want. > > Now, I have changed the code quite a bit in that there no longer are > any id's given to popups. Instead it's all (!) classes and what's > more... they count up nicely!!! > > There are new parameters:'defaultValue' ...namely: > arrow:'\u25BC' > popClass:'popup' > btnClass:'popbutton' > > When popups and buttons are created they not only get those classes > assigned but depending on their nesting level they also get... > > level1: popup1 / popbutton1 > level2: popup2 / popbutton2 > etc... > > ...whereas if you defined popClass as myPopup, then it would be > myPopup1, myPopup2, etc... > > That way you can have one nested popups thingy that is horizontal and > another one being vertical and you can easily style the different > levels via css as I have done in your document reuploaded here [1]. > > The arrows are now in their own container floating to the right with a > classname of "poplevel". Having those as a parameter allows you to > have different arrows for different nesting levels. > > Note that all styles should be put into StyleSheetPopup. > > I will later on release the thing ... maybe with hover again, if I get > that to work properly. > > Cheers, Tobias. > > [1]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2040050/group/2010.10.06%20popup%20saverio.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] TagSearchPlugin error
The [[TAG:xyz]] option in TagSearchPluginConfig##More is not working -- the first tiddler which matches the xyz tag is repeatedly displayed. This can be seen on the website itself [http:// tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: UPDATE: TagSearchPlugin
I think the whole set of notions about slices, sections, fields, and tags needs a careful re-evaluation. The pros and cons of each of these alternatives should be enumerated and summarized. It may be that some methods should be consolidated, and perhaps other ways be made more robust, such as to support truly semantic tagging (see thread here [1]). [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/b501b9832122e775/fa4658e56659fcae?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=semantic+tag#fa4658e56659fcae On Oct 11, 5:01 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > I would say, for quite a few properties, using fields is a much more > native apporach as compared to tagging. That way, one could reserve > tagging for keywords and meta-information ...instead of using tags for > certain "logical properties". > > There are a few solutions outthere that make use of fields or allow > you to to aggregate tiddlers that fulfil certain field criteria, such > as "has-field" or "has-field-value" ...while the underlying > information is somewhat hidden from the general UI, yet still > accessible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki / TiddlyWeb and semantic web
> Let's think about: "A (task) depends on C (task/project/wahtever)" > > A contains: > |Author:| pmario | > |Description:| this is a task | > |Dependencies:| C, D | > > lorem ipsum 100 times > > What I would do: > *Tag A waiting > *Tag every finished task with: done > *A tagged: C > *tag mission critical tasks with "critical" > > Q4: "List all tiddlers that have Dependencies, and ar tagged waiting?" > A4: I am sure, that fET or a new macro can solve this. May be some > other macros can solve it allready too. > > Q5: "Which tasks are waiting" > A5: <> > > Q6: "display waiting tasks in project B" > A6: <> klick the link and have a > look at the text, why it is waiting > > Q7: "Which tasks are critical and waiting" > Q8: <> > This is exactly the way I have implemented my own gtd paradigm within TW. However, in addition to the plugins you mention, this approach requires building a set of *processes* that essentially encode the relationship "depends on". For example, when I click task A as being done, I have to go and search all other tasks tagged with [task A] and remove the [waiting] tag from themunless they themselves are dependent on another task that is not yet completed. If a task can depend on more than one other task or project at a time, than this can get very complicated very quickly. This is a lot of overhead to simply cross off a task from your todo list, especially if you are not a programmer. Of course, you can always download a ready made TW application with all of these extra functions built-in, and give up on the ability to customize, but then you give up as well a large part of the appeal of vanilla TW. Even then, an application for one use case is not generalizable to other use cases - a completely different application must be built. This goes against TW's other major attractive feature, the ability to re-using concepts and structures over and over again for different use cases. In my opinion, simple tags, which imply an isA relationship, go a *long* way, but not as far as possible with semantic tags. It would be nice for the next version of TW to support a more powerful method to relate tiddlers to each other. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki / TiddlyWeb and semantic web
> I'm sorry I still don't know, what "semantic tags" means for you. > > regards > Mario Semantic tag is both the specification of the *relation* as well as of the *value*. Here is another (made up on the fly) use case - an issue tracker. Each issue is a tiddler, and issues need to be associated with both the individual who initiated the issue (the "initiator") and the individual who is responsible for resolving the issue (the "resolver"). Each individual is its own tiddler, and an individual may be both an initiator of one or more issues while at the same time responsible for resolving one or more other issues. With tags alone (ie. not slices or fields), it is impossible to distinguish whether the individual tagged to an issue is the initiator or the resolver. For that, you need to also specify the relationship. This *can* be represented in TWs today with slices: |Initiator:| individualA | |Resolver: | individualB | or with extended fields (using pseudocode): tiddler.field['initiator']='[[individualA]]' tiddler.field['resolver']='[[individualB]]' The problem with slices is that you need to maintain the data within the body of the tiddler, even though it is *metadata* like a tag. The problem with fields is that they are obscure to the casual or non- programmer user. I am only suggesting a "simpler" method which would accomplish what slices and fields can do, but remains as transparent and easily understood as tags. Then, I could add tags such as 'hasInitiator(individualA)' and 'hasResolver(individualB)' as well as traditional tags such as 'urgent' and 'resolved'. This extends (but does not replace) the current tagging mechanism because if no relationship is specified, the "isA" or "is" relationship is assumed. The current methods that access and set tags would need to be extended to deal with the new types of tags, but hopefully would remain as easy to understand and utilize as today's methods to access and set tags. Tobias raised some good points above about how to reason over the reverse of a semantic tag or the cardinality of relationships, and I am sure there are other complicating issues that would need to get resolved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Deleting a TiddlySpace so I can start over again
Can someone explain this a little more? I am a heavy TW user, light tiddlyspot user, and new TiddlySpave user. I uploaded my TW to a TiddlySpace as an experiment, liked it, but kept updating my local version. Now I am considering doing all my work on the TiddlySpace version, but i want to replace what is currently there with my most recently updated local TW. I don't really understand the idea of putting tiddlers in different spaces, how spaces work with other, and the relationship of my spaces to other users' spaces. Also, what is the easiest way just to get my updated local TW onto TiddlySpace. With www.tiddlyspot it was easy to simply upload and overwrite with a new version. thanks. On Sep 21, 1:52 am, dickon wrote: > this is a brilliant thought (to have a separate ambit-plugins space > within my AMBIT Manual space) - I can see thattiddlySpace(like > TiddlyWeb, only moreso) requires a different way of thinking - spaces > within spaces within spaces. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki / TiddlyWeb and semantic web
Yes! A set of functions for resolving relation and tag value would be a great start. A cached table of declared relationships in a shaddow tiddler, updating it whenever tiddlers are saved or tags are edited, might help address the performance concern. Would continuing this discussion, perhaps on http://semantic.tiddlyspace.com, to flesh out a set of functional/technical requirements be a good next step? On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, Tobias Beer wrote: > Never looked at it that way... but doing a query against the store for > such tags would be rather straightforward... provided one knew what to > look for. > > Mapping... > > store.getTaggedTiddlers(resolver+':'+user) > > ...to some output list- or table-view seems rather simple. > > Not so simple would be to get all tiddlers with any resolver assigned. > But then the author of such a system would probably know which > tiddlers potentially are those that (might) have a 'resolver' > attached, e.g. 'issues' ...and that the specified entity would be one > of 'users'. However, one could always search for > indexOf('resolver:')==0 in all tags of all tiddlers (or maybe just a > preselected few that have a certain tag). > > However, I would still much prefer fields or slices for such a > usecase. I would also presume that searching for a field (or slice) > called "resolver" and the corresponding value for all tiddlers would > be much quicker than looking through all tags of all tiddlers to find > out which ones have a prefix of 'resolver:'. > > Usually, assigning resolvers to issues would probably not come with a > standard Edit- or ViewTemplate. In such a case, dedicated templates > seem much more appropriate. Thus, certain dedicated fields were no > longer difficult to access or edit. > > Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] lost access to backstage on tiddlyspace
After uploading my tiddlywiki to tiddlyspace, it seems I have lost access to everything in the backstage except for the cookie "Upload with options" page. Any ideas of how to get back the other buttons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: lost access to backstage on tiddlyspace
Solved! I had to disable UploadPlugin (http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ #UploadPlugin). I wonder if there are other plugins that are no longer relevant or that cause conflicts in TiddlySpace. On Oct 14, 2:59 pm, Saverio wrote: > After uploading my tiddlywiki to tiddlyspace, it seems I have lost > access to everything in the backstage except for the cookie "Upload > with options" page. Any ideas of how to get back the other buttons? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Extending TagSearch / Tagging
I was reminded of one of Eric Shulman's plugins (http:// www.tiddlytools.com/#ListboxPluginInfo), in which list items can be specified in a number of ways: 1) inline list definition (ie "value value value") 2) tiddler-based list definition ("+TiddlerName" to use a horizontal- rule separated list in TiddlerName, or "*TiddlerName" to first process TiddlerName through the TW parser before looking for the horizontal- rule separated list) 3) tag-based list defintions ("=tagvalue" or "=tag expression") Perhaps using a similar convention would be a way to implement Variant 4? On Oct 18, 3:23 am, Tobias Beer wrote: > This is in reply to Plausible's post [1] and I would appreciate some > feedback as to whether or not you would want to see an implementation > for this, too... and if so, which variant. > > Variant 4) would be to allow for all three alternatives, whereas... > cats:@Tags -> lookup section 'Tags' in the category tiddler > cats:%tags -> lookup field 'tags' in the category tiddler > cats:TagSearchConfig -> look for a section corresponding to the > category title in that tiddler > default: Use tiddlers tagging to the category -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: parsing html from another site
To do a search in YouTube, try: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=xyz where you replace xyz with your search terms On Oct 18, 2:18 pm, Bob Paige wrote: > I have a TW of songs we perform at my church, one song per tiddler. So far > I've been manually looking for youtube links for those songs, but I'm > wondering if there is some way to do this more automatically, or at least > without having to switch back and forth so much between browsers. > > My current solution (assuming you know the youtube url for the song) is a > macro that takes the URL as a parameter and displays it with this: > "+++[http://www.youtube.com/favicon.ico>] height='355'> name='wmode' value='transparent'> type='application/x-shockwave-flash' wmode='transparent' width='425' > height='355'>===" > > This gives me a youtube icon that, when I click on it, expands to show an > embedded youtube player. Works well. > > What would be cool is to have a macro that, given the song title, queries > youtube and parses the resulting html for song links, then display them as > options for the user (they could be embedded youtube viewers similar to > above). The user could select one and that URL would be placed in my > videolink field (an extended field I have on the tiddler). > > I think the big part I'm missing is the html-parsing; is there any existing > code to help me with this, or do I just need to roll my own in javascript? > > Or is there another elephant in the room I'm not seeing? > > -- > Bobman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Override Tiddler Creation
~McDonald On Oct 22, 3:16 pm, vcg3rd wrote: > I can't figure out how to override that so that when I write a name > that has a capital somewhere besides the first letter (e.g. > McDonald's) I do not create a tiddler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: using the toggleTag macro inside of MatchTags ?
I implemented exactly this functionality using MatchTagsPlugin [1] and CheckboxPlugin [2] as follows: <> You could simply change the tag "done" to "completed" and replace my tag criteria with your own. [1] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin [2] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CheckboxPlugin > On Nov 4, 9:51 am, Mad Scientist Jr > wrote: > > > I am looking to use matchTags and toggleTag to generate a numbered > > list of unfinished tasks, with a checkbox next to each task that if > > checked will add the 'complete' tag to that task. > > > By itself, the matchTags macro works, for example > > >" "\n" sort:+myfield > > (task AND mycategory AND someothertag) AND !(complete) >> > html> > > > Also, by itself, the toggleTag macro works, for example: > > <> > > > However when I try embedding toggleTag inside matchTags, for example: > > > >" > > "\n" sort:+myfield (task AND mycategory AND someothertag) AND ! > > (complete) >> > > > It doesn't work, I am seeing this output: > > > "" > > " sort: +myfield (task AND mycategory AND someothertag) AND ! > > (complete)>> > > > Does anyone know if & how to make it work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Collaboration using Dropbox - looking for investigators
I like this idea. It is like a wikified and extremely configurable Evernote or SpringPad application. It fixes the problems of both classic TiddlyWiki (lack of ubiquitous availability across platforms) and the shortcomings of Evernote (no linking between notes, no extensibility, no configurability). If any more work proceeds on this front, I would be very interested in trying it out. On May 7, 10:15 am, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > >> The interesting pattern for me would therefore be to explode the > >> TiddlyWiki file into separate files for each tiddler, stored alongside > >> the associated file attachments. > > > Could you explain a bit more.Do you mean separate files for each tiddler? > > Yes, so there would be the following differences from "classic" TiddlyWiki: > > - On save changes, the text of each modified tiddler would be saved to > a separate file in the same directory as the HTML file. The metadata > like modified date would still be stored in the TiddlyWiki file as > usual > - When the file loads, it would load the tiddler store from the > metadata, meaning that all the tiddlers would exist with the correct > metadata, but that the content of the tiddler wouldn't be available > until it was loaded from the external file. The tricky bit would be to > trigger the loading of the text of a tiddler just as it is first > displayed or accessed. This is slightly easier than the server-based > lazy loading situation because the local file APIs are synchronous. > > The point is that once the tiddlers exist as individual files, they > can take advantage of DropBox's revision history storage. > > > Maybe you could make a demo? I'm keen to test. > > It was one of the modes of operation I was exploring with TiddlyWiki > 5. I haven't done any work on it since then. I believe that Eric has a > set of plugins that achieves a similar effect, however. > > Cheers > > Jeremy > > > > > > > best wishes > > > Alex > > >>The individual files would lend > >> themselves to DropBox's own facilities for managing revisions and > >> sharing with other users. The TiddlyWiki file would maintain pointers > >> to the tiddler files (perhaps allowing the inclusion of individual > >> tiddler files, or entire directories of files). Lazy loading could be > >> used to defer loading individual tiddler files until required. > > >> Best wishes > > >> Jeremy > > >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Alex Hough wrote: > >>> Hi Mario, > > >>> For me i think the advantage is that there is less complexity. > >>> * closer to using traditional TW - less learning to do. No including > >>> spaces, less plugins > >>> * faster - i know the lag is small on TiddlySpace, but letting dropbox > >>> sync in the background is quicker > >>> * safer - i've lost data in TiddlySpace - don't know why, but with > >>> autosave and backups with dropbox I feel safe. > > >>> !! Observations on TiddlySpace > > >>> I followed your links to the April tiddlyspace and the > >>> manefesto2. And tried to respond. I followed the spaces and replied to > >>> the tiddlers - but i don't think i got far. There is not a lot of > >>> activity there, indicating -- to me - that despite huge enthusiasm, > >>> the system is still not working for its intended purpose - as a > >>> vehicle for social discourse. I found it hard to read. > > >>> !! A really fast note-taking system > > >>> I liked Blane's comments - something like " i want a really fast > >>> note-taking system" : this is what I want too. > >>> But there seem a lack of discourse like activity from these spaces > >>> purposed for TS metadiscourse [1]. Part of it - for me - is that there > >>> is too much information and perspectives for me to process. After all, > >>> TW is not my job (open to offers though) and I can't afford to spend > >>> the time getting involved with the TS team more than I do. Many issues > >>> are complex, i'd have to learn a lot before i could understand the > >>> discourse and make a contirbution. But I do use TW for notemaking in > >>> meetings, and exploring and developing ideas. > > >>> !! Lots of Tweets for Dropbox and TW > > >>> I use Tweatdeck to read twitter feeds. I have a search for TiddlyWiki, > >>> and there are many messages talking about dropbox and TW. I remembered > >>> Udo include plugin from way back, now we have dropbox i think it comes > >>> into its own. Using a dropbox also helps if you want to share images > >>> and other files - pdfs (I know they are bad ) but lots of accademic > >>> papers are in this format. You can even host video in dropbox and use > >>> Erics media player plugin. Its good when the vids you want to share > >>> need to be private and you don't want to use vimeo or YouTube. TW and > >>> dropbox is getting more attention that TS at the moment, so I thought > >>> it would be good to investigate. > > >>> RSS reader works when the TW is local too. JayFresh wrote a nice > >>> plugin that Bauwe discovered - it makes tiddlers from RSS feeds - very > >>> nic
[tw] Re: Collaboration using Dropbox - looking for investigators
I agree. Standardize the back-end (tiddlers as independent files) with DropBox, leveraging its version control and ubiquitous syncing. Then built multiple/varied front ends for manipulating those files. The simplest ones would enable a single user to access (create, edit, view) their own tiddlers from any platform (PC, Mac, web, iOS, Android, etc.). More complicated ones could layer on view-only sharing, first of individual tiddlers or whole collections of tiddlers (ie. tiddywikis). Even more complicated front ends could enable actual collaboration (two-way sharing), either synchronously or asynchronously. But let's not lose sight of the benefit of even the simplest use case. On May 11, 1:56 am, HansBKK wrote: > My 2 cents: > > To me, Jeremy's tiddlers-as-independent-files is the core enabling > idea, for the reason he gave - it exposes each tiddler as an > independent entity for version control. > > Many people using Dropbox, that's all fine and good, but I'd hate to > see a lot of Dropbox-specific work done when there are so many other > version control systems out there suitable for enabling multi-user > collaboration on TW-hosted content. > > IMO we should let people use the version control & distribution > implementation they prefer - some are rabid Git'ers, others are > already set up with a Subversion network, and so on. These solutions > are very robust, both in features and reliability and IMO should be > the basis for handling the distributed authoring side of things. > > TW's strength is in the presentation side of things, and if the TW > developers focus on simply implementing that one key concept - TW > dynamically pulling tiddler content from external files - it could be > done pretty quickly. > > I don't think the TW code should be trying to overcome Dropbox's > limitations as a "back end" file-hosting/version control system - it > makes more sense for those users that need more than what Dropbox > offers to then just swap over to a more mature and widely implemented > platform for that side of things. > > To the extent developers do want to code to a specific back-end, then > I would recommend a plug-in architecture, allowing for the same front- > end code to talk to different file-hosting/version control systems, > but of course that would be a much bigger project, and IMO premature > at this stage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Absolute path for backup folder
I believe relative references work, ie. "../ADifferentDirectory" On May 11, 2:28 pm, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Is it possible to define a backup folder that is not a subdirectory to > > the one TiddlyWiki resides in? > > > How would one have to specify config.options.txtBackupFolder? > > > These do not work: > > config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'file:///C:\BackupFolder'; > > config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'C:\BackupFolder'; > > > Ir is it that filesystem access for TiddlySaver.jar is restricted to > > subdirectories? > > It was an intentional design decision to restrict the backup directory > to be a subdirectory of the TiddlyWiki directory. I was concerned > about making it too easy for an errant TiddlyWiki to smash ones > filesystem. > > As far as I remember, all three of the underlying APIs allow for > absolute paths to be used, so I think it would be possible to make > this modification to TiddlyWiki. > > Cheers > > jeremy > > > > > Cheers, Tobias. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "TiddlyWiki" group. > > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:jer...@osmosoft.comhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Collaboration using Dropbox - looking for investigators
How about a new toggle "share" that does this fancy stuff, so you can control what is uploaded to the Dropbox share, and what is not. Could you also untoggle, and the tiddler would be retracted from the share, but still remain in your private tiddler? On May 12, 12:04 pm, Bauwe Bijl wrote: > Hello everybody > > I started a new thread with the dropbox including and publishing on > the Public dropbox folder: > > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/374e22... > > So we can continue on experimenting on this thread with other (?) > solutions. > > Andrew > > > I am still > > trying to create multi user environment without server and without dropbox > > with just shared folders and I am almost there. I also need a lazy include > > somehow. > > You might find some usefull things in > the:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/374e22... > (dropbox or shared folders might be similar in this case) > > > I am wondering how difficult would it be to hijack <> so that > > it would create a new tiddler file with the title as the file name in pure > > store format and then automatically add it to an include list in the include > > pure store tiddler in the same folder. I only need it for IE7. I am still > > trying to create multi user environment without server and without dropbox > > with just shared folders and I am almost there. I also need a lazy include > > somehow. > > That's interesting yes... > However...the tiddler must be saved and the tw reloaded before the > exporter will list the tiddler. > Therefor I would like to see the "done" function does some loop for a > spacial tiddler...(saving auto>refresh>merge to export) > So that the tw where you write in will have a copy of the tiddler. > Normal tiddlers saved "normaly" > > check:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html > (the publish button should then not be neededjust a createnew > button (that creates such "special" tiddler that also is saved to the > export html) > > Bauwe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.