[tw] [TW5] - Is there anaything like a 'tabs' macro?
Hi all, Looking through the docs of TW5, I couldn't find anything about a 'tabs' macro. The TWc 'tabs' macro is used by me very often to publish information in a clear, easy accessible, way. I even mix horizontal and vertical tabs. Two usecases: 1) My TWc documentation about (Windows) portable software https://www.dropbox.com/s/kkfhrabfnio38za/Portable_software_documentation.html 2) My TWc - written in Dutch - about the history of the district of Amsterdam I was born in: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/Amsterdam_1822-2009.html Is there already anything in TW5 like a 'tabs' macro? Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: [TW5] - Is there anaything like a 'tabs' macro?
Hi Tobias, Thanks for your reply. I just started to explore TW5. It has many possibilities but at the moment it is very 'technical' for an ordinary end user. I hope there will be soon some macros. In the meantime I'am just trying to work with it and see how far I can go. When you posted your VerticalTabs, way back in 2009, I thought it can be useful for me. And it is, as you could see in my second use case ;-). For sure I am using TabEditPlugin. When 'publishing' my TW I have to switch it off (removing the systemConfig tag) otherwise it still opens tiddlers by double clicking. Cheers, Ton On Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:49:08 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote: Înteresting, I have never seen so many nested tabs ;-) This must sure be a handy tool for you... http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#TabEditPlugin I don't think you should try to use the current low level widget implementation for complex collections like yours with $button and $reveal widgets. Better wait for full blown macro support and tab macros that work more like those you're used to, perhaps even simpler. Otherwise, have a look at those sidebar shadow tiddlers in tw5 to see how it's currenty done... way too complex for your purposes. Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] - Is there anaything like a 'tabs' macro?
Hi Jeremy, I'll wait ;-) Cheers, Ton On Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:51:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: There's no tabs macro yet, mainly because macros currently can only have fixed numbers of arguments. Best wishes Jeremy On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Ton, When you posted your VerticalTabs, way back in 2009, I thought it can be useful for me. And it is, as you could see in my second use case ;-). For sure I am using TabEditPlugin. When 'publishing' my TW I have to switch it off (removing the systemConfig tag) otherwise it still opens tiddlers by double clicking. Nice to hear that you find it useful. As for double-clicking, I might just fork it and turn editing off by default when in readOnly mode. I think the difference between being an editor and a viewer has only rarely been considered by plugin authors (that includes myself and things like TagSearchPlugin). Best wishes, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] [TW5] - build version
Hi all, I just started trying TW5. I already love it but hope that there will be a bunch of macros soon (I speak as an end user). Is there a way to see which build (or build date) I am using? The TWc macro version does not work. Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] [TW5] - build version
Hi Jeremy, Thanks Ton On Friday, September 20, 2013 1:04:55 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Ton The version number is shown at the bottom of the Tools tab in the sidebar. The syntax for it in TW5 is currently $version/, but we'll probably ship with a version macro as well. Best wishes Jeremy On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:29 AM, TonG ton.g...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Hi all, I just started trying TW5. I already love it but hope that there will be a bunch of macros soon (I speak as an end user). Is there a way to see which build (or build date) I am using? The TWc macro version does not work. Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.1 BETA 1
Hi Eric, With the steps: 1) go to http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/beta 2) edit a tiddler 3) press save changes I could download/save it. Character encoding looks OK now with FF 21/Win7 64-bit. Can you give some clarification about the naming of the saved file? My downloaded/saved file was named tTnydxvD.htm; the download message shows a much longer filename (see image). Cheers, Ton On Monday, June 10, 2013 2:07:34 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote: Greetings All! I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic, version 2.8.1 BETA 1, is now available for viewing/download, here: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/beta NOTE: Although TW280 was recently released, this revision addresses several key issues in the new HTML5-based download/save handling, including fixes for a critical failure to load error in older versions of IE (8 and earlier) [1] and a change in encoding so that FireFox no longer corrupts international characters when using download/save handling. [2] ALL TESTERS... please retest your documents with TW281b1 as soon as possible and report any *new* problems immediately. Because this build includes a fix for a critical show stopper problem that is affecting real-world users, it will be promoted to full release status within the next day or two if no problems are reported. [1] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/pull/135 [2] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/136 enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: Saving_message.jpg
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.1 BETA 1
Hi Mario, Thanks for clarification. Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:54:06 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote: On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:33:44 AM UTC+2, TonG wrote: Can you give some clarification about the naming of the saved file? My downloaded/saved file was named tTnydxvD.htm; the download message shows a much longer filename (see image). Hi Ton, Firefox creates a uniqe id for download handling of the HTML page but it uses only 8 characters to save the file. There has been some discussion, about the naming, some time ago in the firefox dev community, but I don't have the link anymore. At the moment, there seems to be no possibility for manual file name input. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 2.8.0 full release
Hi Eric, Many thanks for the great saving additions. I tried your suggested steps: 1) go to http://www.TiddlyWiki.com 2) edit a tiddler (just add something to HelloThere) 3) press save changes and yes I could download/save it. But I noticed some character encoding problems: - '© 2013 UnaMesa' in the Main Menu shows as '© 2013 UnaMesa - 'options »' in the Sidebar shows as 'options »' Windows 7 64-bit Firefox 21.0 (char encoding UTF-8) Cheers, Ton On Jun 3, 1:44 am, G.J.Robert robertus0...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats and thanks! Eric Shulman於 2013年6月3日星期一UTC+8上午4時01分21秒寫道： Greetings All, I'm pleased to announce that TiddlyWiki Classic v2.8.0 is now available for general use. The full release can be viewed/downloaded from here: http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/ Please see the [[WhatsNew]] tiddler for a summary of changes in this revision. enjoy, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi Vincent, An update about not being able to edit the title of a tiddler in my main TW: 1) I found the size of the font is important. I can edit the title for a font-size up to and including 1.98em. From 1.99em upwards it is not possible anymore (TWtid/TWtedv1.63). 2) In my main TW I use a modified ViewTemplate with divs for classes tagging, tagged and tagClear between divs toolbar and title. But with a default ViewTemplate the problem stays. 3) In a MTC with TWtid and TWted v1.63 I can edit the title even with a font-size of 10em! 4) With TWtid/TWted v1.64 in my main TW I can edit the title for a font-size up to and including 2.54em. From 2.55em upwards it is not possible anymore. No idea why. I made a MTC with topmenus. modified ViewTemplate and with TWtid/TWted v1.64 [1] which has the title problem: I can edit the title for a font-size up to and including 2.54em. From 2.55em upwards it is not possible anymore. The font-size for the title is at the top of the StyleSheet. N.B. With plugins v1.64 there is no shift in an old unmodified main TW (#displayArea, .tiddler as was in the past), so your solution for the positioning issue works. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW_271_TWed_164_topmenu.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi Vincent, I think about replacing Table editor v1.4.6 (which I use daily) by this version; it means I like this version very much. Testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/TWted v1.62, TWtcalc v0.81. 1) Backstage button visible again. 2) The list item is now correct. 3) Table editing works good. Some - minor - points: a) After e.g. row/column editing (insert/copy/paste rows/columns) you cannot edit the cell contents directly; you need to leave the table area and re-enter this area to enable cell editing again. b) When using the arrow keys to go from one cell to another, there is different behavior using - (step from cel to cell with content selected) or - (step first from character to character in a cell and then to the other cell). c) By disabling TWtid and TWted (no checkmarks in option panels) stops editing possibility but leaves the area boundary marks of table and block elements (an arbitrary viewer of my TW does not want to see these). In the old table only editor v1.4.6 I used Simon Baird's ToggleTagPlugin to toggle the systemConfig tags to disable editing and get rid of the H, C and E buttons. Cheers, Ton On Apr 19, 6:46 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: TWtid v1.6.2 + TWted v1.6.2 + TWtcalc v0.8.1 Ark, Yakov, and Ton, I think I had fixed the incorrect list item and incorrect positioning issues. Please check and see. The Error in macro tabs, slider, tiddler should be fixed too. Also fixed some bugs in options panel and added support for IE 10. See release note athttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRelease%20Note%20v1.6.2%2B0.8.1...for download links, test cases and other info. Have fun! Vincent ps. There was a tiddler explaining the positioning issue made yesterday but now gone, possibly due to the recent hardware failure in TiddlySpace. Will make it again later. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:31:08 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Some initial testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/ TWted v1.60, TWtcalc v0.80 1) Cannot reach the backstage (backstage button not available) with all 3 plugins activated (systemConfug tag) Without the 3 plugins active the backstage button is there. With only TWtid active the backstage button disappears 2) Example Transclusion support gives an error in all the transclusion cases: Error in macro tiddler Error in macro slider Error in macro tabs Clicking on the error shows: Error while executing macro tiddler: TypeError: b.tiddler is null After removing the systemConfig tag of all 3 plugins the Transclusion support tiddler does not show errors anymore and works as expected: everything is transcluded. = Upgraded to TWtid/TWted v1.61 1) Disappearing backstage button remains. 2) No errors anymore in Transclusion support example. I had a quick look at both examples. Most things seem to work. I did notice the strange behavior with the example of Yakov: --- * [[TWtid.min]] -- wikitext manipulator * [[TWted.min]] -- editor Some more text --- I will test further and report. Cheers, Ton On Apr 15, 2:55 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with versions 1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items was possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried locally your example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15 over Win7 x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned here are gone. Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix. Thanks again. Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see below). Maybe conflicting with some addons? On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hi Vincent, воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0 There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion support. Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual mode and flying C buttons, etc. Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are displayed. One small detail: second-level list items are displayed as * item text instead of ** item text I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong. This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because of the wrong selection of a list item to edit issue. Two * appear where they should be. (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like Arc does. I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have the positioning issue with local files
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi Vincent, Some initial testing with Win7 64-bit, FF v20.01, TW v2.71, TWtid/ TWted v1.60, TWtcalc v0.80 1) Cannot reach the backstage (backstage button not available) with all 3 plugins activated (systemConfug tag) Without the 3 plugins active the backstage button is there. With only TWtid active the backstage button disappears 2) Example Transclusion support gives an error in all the transclusion cases: Error in macro tiddler Error in macro slider Error in macro tabs Clicking on the error shows: Error while executing macro tiddler: TypeError: b.tiddler is null After removing the systemConfig tag of all 3 plugins the Transclusion support tiddler does not show errors anymore and works as expected: everything is transcluded. = Upgraded to TWtid/TWted v1.61 1) Disappearing backstage button remains. 2) No errors anymore in Transclusion support example. I had a quick look at both examples. Most things seem to work. I did notice the strange behavior with the example of Yakov: --- * [[TWtid.min]] -- wikitext manipulator * [[TWted.min]] -- editor Some more text --- I will test further and report. Cheers, Ton On Apr 15, 2:55 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, tested with all other plugins set off and then the same with versions 1.6.1: the behaviour is almost the same понедельник, 15 апреля 2013 г., 6:10:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, Thanks for the quick reply. What you found with the list items was possibly fixed in the version 1.6.1 just uploaded. I tried locally your example tiddler below with the latest FF 20.0.1 and Opera 12.15 over Win7 x64 and Win XP. It seemed the list item issues you mentioned here are gone. Please try again and let me know if there are more to fix. Thanks again. Some of the issues, however, I never had before and now (see below). Maybe conflicting with some addons? On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:54:15 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hi Vincent, воскресенье, 14 апреля 2013 г., 14:11:02 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: TWtid v1.6.0 + TWted v1.6.0 + TWtcalc v0.8.0 There were quite some bug fixes and much improved transclusion support. Edits plain text in addition to block elements. Removed manual mode and flying C buttons, etc. Indeed, backstage is back again and DefaultTiddlers are displayed. One small detail: second-level list items are displayed as * item text instead of ** item text I didn't have this issue, though. Not sure what was wrong. This one seems to be gone, or may be I even have mistaken because of the wrong selection of a list item to edit issue. Two * appear where they should be. (in Opera) In FireFox I have this strange positioning issue like Arc does. I got the correct position both on- and off-line. Did you have the positioning issue with local files? I meant a local file, couldn't get any editor box online. Great news that plain text is being conquered. But the situation of bugs/behaviour is complicated, so let me continue my post in a follow-me form. First, I create a tiddler New Tiddler with the following 5 lines of content (in a TW with vanilla theme -- PageTemplate etc, only some additional CSS): Beginning * [[TWtid.min]] -- wikitext manipulator * [[TWted.min]] -- editor Some more text As I click on the first list item, I get an edit area and a preview of the second one. If I edit it (say, change to * [[TWted.min]] -- editor+) and press ctrl+enter, I get the first list item visually substituted with the wikified new text which was thought to be from the second item; but if I click edit and view the tiddler's text, it becomes clear that actually the second item was changed, and that's a problem of representation. Next, let's remove the added +, the text is back to initial. Now I click one of the two list items again and start pressing the down key. The editor acts as if there were *three* list items: two copies of the second one and the first one; and the edit area and the preview for the first one are displayed on the left, under the no tags box; moreover, the preview area is grey as is the no tags box is. Next step is trying to click the first line (Beginning). Instead of opening the first line, the editor opens actually the two first lines. That's not a bug, but an unexpected behavior. Do you mean you see the editbox containing both Beginning and * [[TWtid.min]] -- wikitext manipulator? Yes, right. I didn't notice this behavior and don't see it in 1.6.1, hopefully fixed somehow? This and all the issues below still present.. My assembly is TW 2.6.5 + Opera 12.15, win7 x64. (ok, retested in TW 2.6.6 as well, should I go 2.7.1 also?) Than, let's try to click the last two lines. The editor opens the whole text (the previewer behaves accordingly), but the height of
[tw] Re: TW2.7.1 does strange things - SinglePageMode stopped single-paging!!!
Hi skye riquelme, To enable the backstage you can try the bookmarklet EnableEdit by Saq Imtiaz. His site is not online anymore, but the info can still be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8286741/lewcid.ord.htm Also Tobias Beer added the info at http://tiddlywiki.org/#Bookmarklets Cheers, Ton On Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:03:06 PM UTC+2, skye riquelme wrote: Oooops...spoke too soon. The work around I mentioned lets me edit the tiddlers and have SinglePage and Breadcrumbs working. BUT I dont have access to the backstage. Playing more.readOnly=false in the default tiddler does not turn on the backstage button, and putting readOnly=false in a systemConfig tiddler.allows the backstage buttonbut stops SinglePage and Bradcrumbs from working.. its on or the other! Any ideas on how I can have access to the backstage AND have SinglePageMode and Breadcrumbs all working at the same time??? Thanks Skye Em domingo, 31 de março de 2013 14h39min22s UTC-3, skye riquelme escreveu: Hi Again... Still dont understand where that conflict comes from, but the work-around is very simple. I took the offending bit of javascript out of the tiddler marked as systemConfig.and stuck it into the Default tiddlerso the TW opens, initially in read only modebut once you click past the default tiddler. it resets to edit mode. so everything fine.. exceptwhy did it stop working after so many months... maybe just one of those TW gremlins!!! Thanks Skye Em domingo, 31 de março de 2013 14h25min55s UTC-3, skye riquelme escreveu: Hi Ton Yeah...theres a few bits of sloppy code that I hadnt cleaned up but now I havethanks for the hint OK, I have identified where the problem comes from.I have a tiddler marked systemConfig that actually sets various parameters...its called xxConfig.. I havent messed with it for many monthsbut now I find that if it has the lines - config.options.chkHttpReadOnly=false readOnly=false .. then SinglePage and BreadcrumbsDONT work...if I remove those lines then SinglePage and Breadcrumbs do work... but I am viewing this over http.. so switching it to view only makes it difficult to work!! So, anyone have any idea why chkHttpReadOnly and readOnly mess with SinglePage and Breadcrumbs Plugins??? Thanks Skye Em domingo, 31 de março de 2013 09h16min24s UTC-3, TonG escreveu: Hi skye riquelme, Looking at your site I see the following errors (at the right side): 1) Erro na macro relinquishEdit 2) Erro na macro wikify 3) Clicking the Calendar icon gives: TypeError: e is null 4) Hovering over the icon that shows the Twitter icon and others gives: TypeError: e is null So I think there are more problems then you reported (SinglePageMode and BreadCrumbsPlugin not working). After sorting out what gives above mentioned errors, you can go further searching for your reported problems. Assuming only one plugin gives the poblems, you can switch the plugins off intelligently: disable 15 of the plugins and see what happens. Then you know in which set the problem resides. Switch of 8 of the remaining problem plugins and so forth ... Cheers, Ton On Sunday, March 31, 2013 1:59:22 AM UTC+1, skye riquelme wrote: Hi All. Finally got around to upgrading one of my main TWs to 2.7.1...everthing seemed to go well...except that now the SinglePageMode display wont work, nor the BreadCrumbsPlugin.. I have updated all the other plugins (all 30!!!), and still cant get these two to work. I loaded SinglePageModePlugin into an empty TW2.7.1.. and it works fine... so I guess theres a clash with another of my (30) plugins. Anyone seen something like this? Any ideas as to what this could be.. I hope I dont have to turn off each of the 30 plugins, one by one to see where the conflict is Note...I am using FF19...and the TW in question is online (updated through Upload and UploadTiddler Plugins) - maybe someone can have a look and see if you can see what is happening - www.unigaia-brasil.org/AquiAiDragons (the breadcrumbs list hides under the black clock face!!!). Thanks Skye -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???
*Hi **smallhagrid, You can try the bookmarklet EnableEdit by Saq Imtiaz*. His site is not online anymore, but the info can be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8286741/lewcid.ord.htm Cheers, Ton On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:26:57 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: But the backstage does not show - is there another way to make it show, please ?? I guess you need to either permanently disable readOnly over http or toggle readOnly mode manally each time using: TiddlyTools.com/#ToggleReadOnly http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleReadOnly Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???
Hi Tobias, Nice to have it at an official place ;) Cheers, Ton On Monday, March 25, 2013 2:53:03 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: Hi Ton Smallhagrid, A few weeks ago I took the time to list all bookmarklets known to me at... http://tiddlywiki.org/#Bookmarklets Among that you also find *EnableEdit*. Cheers, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi Vincent, I saw new versions of your plugins (1.5.1/0.7.8) and tried these. I did not expect a solution for my problems, so just an update of my testing: They behave exactly the same as the previous ones (v1.5.0/0.7.7): * Blank page without TWtcalc (Win7 64-bit, FF 19, Chrome 25). * No backstage button and E button with all 3 plugins installed (FF Chrome). * Hovering over the block elements (in FF) you see the C button except for item3 and item6 in the ordered list and item3 in the unordered list. In Chrome you see it everywhere. Glad to hear you want to make a separate table editor plugin. Without your plugin(s), editing of (not to small) tables is a nightmare. I'am using v1.4.6 daily and cannot imagine I succeeded editing tables in the past without it :). It saves me a lot of time. Cheers, Ton On Mar 16, 6:10 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, On Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:08:42 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent I was busy with other things and didn't have time to test (meantime using the v1.4.6 table editor). So, after a long time I started testing the new versions (v1.5/0.7.7). To be honest I only need the table editing feature. That feature makes editing tables a breeze and I think it is worth to make a separate plugin for that feature alone (I'am still using the table-only version 1.4.6 daily). Good point! I also had this thought of code separation but for a different reason: they are too fat to be called plugins! I will start separating them after releasing 1.5.1/0.7.8. Also I will spend some time on the documentation as mentioned in my last reply to Yakov. I don't need the possibility of editing of other parts (on a PC with large screen), but I can imagine other users do like it. For mobile devices it is a different story (small screen). In most of my TWs I installed Eric Shulman's Quick Edit package, but after some time I noticed I used that package only for a few special (custom defined) formats like an iFrame or an iFrame within a slider. All other formatting (headers, lists, bold, ... and even some CSS style wrapping) I do by hand. For testing (Windows 7, Firefox 19.02) I made a minimal test case based on the new TW 2.7.1. When I only added TWtid.min and TWted.min I only got a blank screen after saving and reloading. At first I thought it had something to do with the TW version, but older TWs behaved the same. Older versions of FF did not help either. Since other browsers also showed a blank page, it wasn't a FF issue. But I remembered seeing the the v1.5 plugins working (weeks ago I did some preliminary testing). When I added TWtid.min, TWted.min *AND* TWtcalc.min (v0.7.7) to an empty TW everything worked as expected. After deleting TWtcalc.min the blank page reappeared! So there is a certain dependency between the plugins. That wasn't the case with version 1.4.6; I use TWtid and TWted WITHOUT TWtcalc! So this explains why I never had the problem of blank page, I always use TWtcalc. Now I have a clear direction where to look for the bug. Thanks a lot! A MTC with TWtid.min, TWted.min and TWtcalc.min did NOT show the backstage button in the upper right corner. I could go within the backstage with help of the EnableEdit bookmarklet by Saq Imtiaz. It repairs the backstage/close buttons during the session, but after reloading the TW the backstage button doesn't show again. With tables, headers and ordered/unordered lists I only see the C button; no E button is visible although TWtid and TWted are enabled and TWted is active in View mode (default settings). I remember from preliminary testing I saw the E button and could do some editing. An older (v3.6) portable version of FF behaved the same: no backstage button, no E button. Chrome portable (v25) behaved the same as well: no backstage button, no E button. Another strange thing I noted in FF (NOT in Chrome): !!!Ordered list # item1 # item2 # item3 ## item3.1 # item4 # item5 # item6 ## item6.1 !!!Unordered list * item1 * item2 * item3 ** item3.1 Hovering over the block elements (in FF, v19 v3.6) you see the C button except for item3 and item6 in the ordered list and item3 in the unordered list. In Chrome you see it everywhere. I don't know what is happening; I can't even start testing. My MTC can be found here [1] Thanks for the test case. Next week I shall find some time to have a look and fix them. Have fun! Vincent Cheers, Ton [1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TWtid_TWted_TWtcalc.html On Mar 15, 8:36 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yakov, On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:31:09 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hi Vincent, glad the development goes on. Could you specify what bug you was talking about in the WYSIWYG discussion? The cursor in the preview one? The bug was fixed lately so
[tw] Re: A View Mode Editor and a simple Calcualtor
Hi Vincent I was busy with other things and didn't have time to test (meantime using the v1.4.6 table editor). So, after a long time I started testing the new versions (v1.5/0.7.7). To be honest I only need the table editing feature. That feature makes editing tables a breeze and I think it is worth to make a separate plugin for that feature alone (I'am still using the table-only version 1.4.6 daily). I don't need the possibility of editing of other parts (on a PC with large screen), but I can imagine other users do like it. For mobile devices it is a different story (small screen). In most of my TWs I installed Eric Shulman's Quick Edit package, but after some time I noticed I used that package only for a few special (custom defined) formats like an iFrame or an iFrame within a slider. All other formatting (headers, lists, bold, ... and even some CSS style wrapping) I do by hand. For testing (Windows 7, Firefox 19.02) I made a minimal test case based on the new TW 2.7.1. When I only added TWtid.min and TWted.min I only got a blank screen after saving and reloading. At first I thought it had something to do with the TW version, but older TWs behaved the same. Older versions of FF did not help either. Since other browsers also showed a blank page, it wasn't a FF issue. But I remembered seeing the the v1.5 plugins working (weeks ago I did some preliminary testing). When I added TWtid.min, TWted.min *AND* TWtcalc.min (v0.7.7) to an empty TW everything worked as expected. After deleting TWtcalc.min the blank page reappeared! So there is a certain dependency between the plugins. That wasn't the case with version 1.4.6; I use TWtid and TWted WITHOUT TWtcalc! A MTC with TWtid.min, TWted.min and TWtcalc.min did NOT show the backstage button in the upper right corner. I could go within the backstage with help of the EnableEdit bookmarklet by Saq Imtiaz. It repairs the backstage/close buttons during the session, but after reloading the TW the backstage button doesn't show again. With tables, headers and ordered/unordered lists I only see the C button; no E button is visible although TWtid and TWted are enabled and TWted is active in View mode (default settings). I remember from preliminary testing I saw the E button and could do some editing. An older (v3.6) portable version of FF behaved the same: no backstage button, no E button. Chrome portable (v25) behaved the same as well: no backstage button, no E button. Another strange thing I noted in FF (NOT in Chrome): !!!Ordered list # item1 # item2 # item3 ## item3.1 # item4 # item5 # item6 ## item6.1 !!!Unordered list * item1 * item2 * item3 ** item3.1 Hovering over the block elements (in FF, v19 v3.6) you see the C button except for item3 and item6 in the ordered list and item3 in the unordered list. In Chrome you see it everywhere. I don't know what is happening; I can't even start testing. My MTC can be found here [1] Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TWtid_TWted_TWtcalc.html On Mar 15, 8:36 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yakov, On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:31:09 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hi Vincent, glad the development goes on. Could you specify what bug you was talking about in the WYSIWYG discussion? The cursor in the preview one? The bug was fixed lately so no need to worry about it. However, for your information I'll put some words here to explain. In TWted the editbox adjusts its height as the user is typing, and, for reasons unknown to me, the adjustment requires (for some browsers) first setting its height to 0 to get the correct height of its content (see herehttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BDynamic%20TextArea%20Height%5D%5Dif interested). In a recent coding time I accidentally removed some of the codes to set the correct height back, resulting in a zero-height editbox once I started to type. But the editbox still had the focus and received all the keystrokes, and the previewer was still working, so it looked like the previewer was responding to my typing, that gave me a feeling of W-G. First, I'd like to suggest some things which are not directly connected with the development: * how about adding a simple startup message in the repository [1]? Instead of the default GettingStarted tiddler, add a breif intro about the plugins and links to them, so you don't need to attach the links each time and a visitor doesn't need to search * it seems it's time to update the Descrition slices in both TWted/TWted.min and TWtid/TWtid.min (those are no longer about tables only) * I think it's better to specify what version of TWtid TWted needs (the same, or not below, or.. you may specify this in the Needs to have slice) * the metadata table of the plugins being cut (see the screenshot 1) don't make them look better; in addition, when one tries to grab the scrollbar, he or she mouseovers it and the table jumps into the edit mode, so scrollbar avoids
[tw] Re: NightPalette, notes and questions about ColorPalette, suggestions for TW core
@Tobias Why not mention your own ColorFool script [1]? I use it a lot. BTW your VerticalTabs are marvelous, especially in combination with horizontal tabs. Cheers, Ton [1] http://verticaltabs.tiddlyspot.com/#ColorFool On Feb 2, 6:42 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yakov, Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2013 12:10:44 UTC+1 schrieb Yakov: By the way, Tobias, why a separate space instead of tiddlywiki.org? At least it can be referenced there. Sure, some of this will definetely end up directly in tiddlywiki.org. For now, I just wanted to have something up and running, a little showcase for Erics great PaletteMaker http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PaletteMaker, a dedicated playground for others to experiment and learn about nothing but Colors TiddlyWiki. Chances are that other, purely color related stuff ends up there which does not necessarily need to be in tiddlywiki.org, e.g. links to any of... -http://www.colourlovers.com -http://colorschemedesigner.com - etc... ...which are now referenced under... -http://color.tiddlyspace.com/#Tools As I said in some other post... I see tiddlywiki.org as the best of compendium, but not necessarily as the exhaustive 1:1 copy of each and everyones contribution. It should have lots of detailed information but surely not every last bit of it. If you wish, @color may be the right place for the tiddlywiki colouring taskforce to make the color lovers heart rejoice... but it might just end up a tad bit too much details for what the average tiddlywiki user wants to read about Colors + TiddlyWiki. Cheers, Tobias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: Can't import
Hi, You can upgrade your TW manually, see http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/2192ca1c77dec21e/1ba6348d41559ae2?lnk=gstq=Download+the+latest+empty.zip+from#1ba6348d41559ae2 Cheers, Ton On Dec 29, 9:45 pm, George Harnish lefo...@gmail.com wrote: Since the solution seems to be opening the old TiddlyWiki file in a text editor, copying the stuff between !--POST-SHADOWAREA-- and !--POST-STOREAREA--, would it be useful to create am external bash (or other) script to do the updating? On Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:27:52 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Is that firefox extension going to have long term support? Will Tw ever work in Chrome? I regard TiddlyFox as critical to TiddlyWiki's usefulness, and so expect to continue to enhance and extend it. The story for Chrome isn't so good; Chrome extensions don't have enough privileges to access the file system. Java is slowly dying, and I'm not optimistic that Chrome will continue to support Java given Google's dislike of security holes in software they don't control. I suspect that pretty soon the best option for using TiddlyWiki on Chrome will be to either use one of the cloud services like Dropbox or to run a local node.js instance. Best wishes Jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/7jB6Mi04K2AJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Main menu
Hi Steve, The tiddler NewButtons contains the top menu (+action, +project, ...). The MainMenu (holding GettingStarted) is not used/shown. Cheers, Ton On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:38:43 PM UTC+1, steve wrote: Hi I've been using TiddlyWiki for some time but want to move to monkeyGTD. The mainmenu on the left of TW is missing in monkey and I can't find a way to get it to appear or to be able to edit the new top menu. I just want somewhere in the page template to put links to some tiddlers I use all the time. Maybe I'm misunderstanding some key feature of monkey? Any help appreciated. Thanks Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/N92a7SnT8JAJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I played around with your latest prelease and can see future possibilities. On the other hand it would be nice to just have a no frills table editor. Table editing was always very difficult in TW and is now a pleasure with your plugin(s). I'am using the (stable) version 1.4.6 daily and there I only miss the keyboard navigation you already implemented in prereleases. A (stable) 1.4.x release with added keyboard navigation would be much appreciated. I second Yakov's remarks about the Edit mode in the prerelease: do not combine general editing with table/headings/list editing. As Yakov already stated: there is no fallback anymore (at the moment you cannot even edit body text). Cheers, Ton On Dec 11, 12:21 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello :) Good timing! Indeed! Well, during development I noticed that clicking a link can trigger two actions: opening the link and the edit box, due to event bubbling. But I didn't like it that way so I introduced the option to restrict it to one action, either opening the link or opening the edit box. Now I know that two actions can be expected in some cases, I will figure a way to put it back. No-no-no, two actions were expected but they are not desired, so everything is fine. I just want to be sure that there wouldn't be two actions in some untested situations, that's what I was talking about. But as I understand, you basically stop bubbling the onclick event, so that shouldn't happen anyway, right? The new alpha looks good, but I have one important question: why did you move inline editing into the edit mode? On the one hand, inline editing has this nice feature that one doesn't need to scroll up to the menu -- well, double-click now makes editor open right in place, but to close edit mode one has to scroll up and click done/cancel; on the other hand, with usual edit mode, one has a usual fallback to edit what is unsupported for now. I think * the ordinary edit mode shouldn't be hijacked, but rather two options should remain * there should be an option to be permanently in the inline edit mode, like it was implemented before Best regards, Yakov. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlySnip and Firefox 17 (with TiddlyFox)
Hi Julian, TiddlySnip did work with Firefox up to version 16. After upgrading to v17 TiddlySnip does not work anymore. I hoped TiddlyFox would help, but it only works for standard TWs (at least for me it works with all my TWs). But I think there must be a solution by changing the TiddlySnip code like the TiddlyFox code. Not being a programmer, I cannot do anything in that direction. At the moment I'm using the Utilu Mozilla Firefox Collection http://utilu.com/UtiluMFC/ The latest version 1.0.9.2 contains versions ranging from v2 to v20 nightly build that can be used simultaneously, next to your standard Firefox browser. Upgrading has been switched off in these versions. I installed v3.6 (the latest version without any problems with TW), v16 (I use it for TiddlySnip) and v17 (as a clean installation of FF for testing purposes). Cheers, Ton On Dec 10, 7:21 pm, Julian Schütte julian.schue...@gmx.net wrote: Did you get it working? Reinstalling does not help. At the onclick handler of the Save button in tiddler.xul, saveTiddlerWindow(loadedTW,tiddlerList,storeType), all three parameters are null. Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2012 06:15:25 UTC+1 schrieb Corey S: Reinstall? Then turn off updates. FF is really cheezing me off with the 6 week version cycle. I've held mine at v12. On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:27:52 AM UTC-8, TonG wrote: Hi all, My TiddlySnip (with MaxVersion= 99.9) does not work anymore with FF 17 (Win 7 64-bit). Clicking the Save button in the Preview snippet to save window has no effect. TiddlySnip did work with Firefox up to version 16. After upgrading to v17 (and installing the new TiddlyFox extension v1.0alpha7), TiddlySnip does not work anymore. Downgrading TiddlyFox to v1.0alpha6 did not help either. I suspect it has something to do with stricter security in Firefox. Any other ideas than downgrading Firefox to v16? Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I can confirm Yakov's observations about strange behaviour of transcluded sections in a slider. I do see it in my work FF17 and in my test FF17. What I also observed was that in the tiddler with 2 sections, only the table in the first section shows the 'E' button; the table in the second section only shows the 'C' button. I made a MTC [1]. 1) Start MTC; it shows Test2 and Test1 tiddlers. The slider in Test2 works normal. 2) With the slider closed, click the 'E' button = strange behaviour of the slider. 3) After clicking the 'E' button again, the strange behaviour stays. Hope that helps. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWtable146_TWted146_slider.html On Dec 4, 7:02 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yakov, On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:50:02 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for the delay, time is pressing as usual :) No problem. You see I am slow these days, too. Yes, partial self-transclusion now works correctly (tested in Opera and FF). Strange behaviour in two tiddlers mentioned in my previous post (with two transclusions, one by the tiddler macro and another by slider) remains nearly the same in both Opera and FF (did you mean this by the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel?). Tapping E on one of the tables (when the slider is opened) toggles edit mode of both, opening edit mode when the slider is closed causes troubles with the other table when the slider is opened. Hm..., that is strange, for I don't see such behavior with my Opera and FF in Ubuntu as well as Win7 64 and Win XP 32... (yes I meant that by the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel). However, I found some other bugs from this test case, will fix them as soon as I have time. And you are right that the codes in TWtable+TWted can be easily generalized to work on all types of block elements (paragraphs, tables, lists, blockquotes, headers, block examples, preformats...) In principle it should work on inline elements as well but I will leave it later. I had done the generalization for block elements over the weekend and started working on the list editing things. Thanks to your detailed explanations simple lists are now editable in my development version, but list trees and other things are more complicated than I thought, shall need much more time... Will put up a pre-release file for you to play with in a few days (well, I hope so). Have fun! Vincent The hide until mouseover option is fine, it also works in touchscreen (instead of mouseover, one needs to tap a table to make buttons visible, just as expected), thanks. Best regards, Yakov. четверг, 29 ноября 2012 г., 19:45:59 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, Thank you very much for so much detailed description of your ideas, I actually haven't thought that deep yet! I will think more about it and probably start working on it not far from now, though it seems like a big project to me. About the bugs I think I have fixed a couple of them, - the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel, - the strange results in partial self transclusion, The keyboard navigation in a spanned cell shall be fixed soon. Ton, I should have fixed the TWtcalc bug you mentioned, too. A pre_release file is prepared at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release.htmlfor you to try. Please do try it and tell me if there are more I need to fix. Thanks. Have fun! Vincent On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:57:36 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello. About sliders: the story seems to be rather complicated and may be far from usual usage. I put many tests in one tiddler and that's where sliders work incorrectly. I simplified the test and made it closer to real cases. Create tiddler 1 with couple of sections and a table in each: !Section 1 |table 1|c |editable|k |h-cell1|h-cell2||h |c11|c12++|| |c21|c22|| !Section 2 with merged cells: |h-cell1||h-cell2|h |c11|c12|c13| |~|c22|c23| then create another tiddler which transluces this sections, one via tiddler and another via slider: tiddler [[Tiddler 1##Section 1]] slider [[Tiddler 1##Section 2]] * And then try this: first, open the slider and click E on a table. Each table will enter the edit mode, no matter which E button was clicked. (then click E again or reload the tiddler or go to edit mode and back) And second, close the slider, click E on the table which is transcluded via tiddler, then (or after clicking E once more) open the slider. The table disappears; if you click E on the first table again, the second table appears once more, but with messed numeration. Regarding the self transclusion. A usual case for it is when I create sliders (without NestedSlidersPlugin) and tab sets like this: slider [[This tiddler##section]] somelabel sometooltip/% !section some content !end%/ /% !section 1 ...
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, The MTC in my last post was based upon the official releases of TWtable and TWted (v1.4.6). The weird behaviour stays with the prelease file of november 30. MTC based on that prelease file (after deletion of superfluous tiddlers) [1] Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/pre_release_3.html On Dec 4, 11:16 am, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, I can confirm Yakov's observations about strange behaviour of transcluded sections in a slider. I do see it in my work FF17 and in my test FF17. What I also observed was that in the tiddler with 2 sections, only the table in the first section shows the 'E' button; the table in the second section only shows the 'C' button. I made a MTC [1]. 1) Start MTC; it shows Test2 and Test1 tiddlers. The slider in Test2 works normal. 2) With the slider closed, click the 'E' button = strange behaviour of the slider. 3) After clicking the 'E' button again, the strange behaviour stays. Hope that helps. Cheers, Ton [1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWtable146_TWted146_slider... On Dec 4, 7:02 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yakov, On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 1:50:02 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for the delay, time is pressing as usual :) No problem. You see I am slow these days, too. Yes, partial self-transclusion now works correctly (tested in Opera and FF). Strange behaviour in two tiddlers mentioned in my previous post (with two transclusions, one by the tiddler macro and another by slider) remains nearly the same in both Opera and FF (did you mean this by the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel?). Tapping E on one of the tables (when the slider is opened) toggles edit mode of both, opening edit mode when the slider is closed causes troubles with the other table when the slider is opened. Hm..., that is strange, for I don't see such behavior with my Opera and FF in Ubuntu as well as Win7 64 and Win XP 32... (yes I meant that by the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel). However, I found some other bugs from this test case, will fix them as soon as I have time. And you are right that the codes in TWtable+TWted can be easily generalized to work on all types of block elements (paragraphs, tables, lists, blockquotes, headers, block examples, preformats...) In principle it should work on inline elements as well but I will leave it later. I had done the generalization for block elements over the weekend and started working on the list editing things. Thanks to your detailed explanations simple lists are now editable in my development version, but list trees and other things are more complicated than I thought, shall need much more time... Will put up a pre-release file for you to play with in a few days (well, I hope so). Have fun! Vincent The hide until mouseover option is fine, it also works in touchscreen (instead of mouseover, one needs to tap a table to make buttons visible, just as expected), thanks. Best regards, Yakov. четверг, 29 ноября 2012 г., 19:45:59 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, Thank you very much for so much detailed description of your ideas, I actually haven't thought that deep yet! I will think more about it and probably start working on it not far from now, though it seems like a big project to me. About the bugs I think I have fixed a couple of them, - the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel, - the strange results in partial self transclusion, The keyboard navigation in a spanned cell shall be fixed soon. Ton, I should have fixed the TWtcalc bug you mentioned, too. A pre_release file is prepared at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release.htmlforyou to try. Please do try it and tell me if there are more I need to fix. Thanks. Have fun! Vincent On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:57:36 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello. About sliders: the story seems to be rather complicated and may be far from usual usage. I put many tests in one tiddler and that's where sliders work incorrectly. I simplified the test and made it closer to real cases. Create tiddler 1 with couple of sections and a table in each: !Section 1 |table 1|c |editable|k |h-cell1|h-cell2||h |c11|c12++|| |c21|c22|| !Section 2 with merged cells: |h-cell1||h-cell2|h |c11|c12|c13| |~|c22|c23| then create another tiddler which transluces this sections, one via tiddler and another via slider: tiddler [[Tiddler 1##Section 1]] slider [[Tiddler 1##Section 2]] * And then try this: first, open the slider and click E on a table. Each table will enter the edit mode, no matter which E button was clicked. (then click E again or reload the tiddler or go to edit mode and back) And second, close the slider, click E on the table which
[tw] Utilu Mozilla Firefox Collection
Hi all, I came across the Utilu Mozilla Firefox Collection. http://utilu.com/UtiluMFC/ The latest version 1.0.9.2 contains the following versions (that can be used simultaneously, next to your standard Firefox browser): Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.20 Mozilla Firefox 3.0.19.0 Mozilla Firefox 3.5.19.0 Mozilla Firefox 3.6.28.0 Mozilla Firefox 4.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 5.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 6.0.2.0 Mozilla Firefox 7.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 8.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 9.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 10.0.2.0 Mozilla Firefox 10.0.11.0 ESR Mozilla Firefox 11.0.0.0 Mozilla Firefox 12.0.0.0 Mozilla Firefox 13.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 14.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 15.0.1.0 Mozilla Firefox 16.0.2.0 Mozilla Firefox 17.0.0.0 Mozilla Firefox 17.0.0.0 ESR Mozilla Firefox 18.0.0.0 beta 1 Mozilla Firefox 19.0.0.0 Aurora Mozilla Firefox 20.0.0.0 Nightly Can be handy nowadays! Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Sorry, but I could not try your Dropbox prerelease file in Firefox 17 since the Configuaration/Edit modes are not available to me (Win 7 64- bit + Firefox v17) When I hover with the mouse over the table, I only see cell references like A1, B1 or formulas but no buttons at all. Are other users of Firefox v17 having the same problem? Since TiddlySnip stopped working for me with Firefox v17 (other post), I have Firefox v16 available as well, and surprise: I see the H, C, and E buttons when hovering over the table. I do like it this way: no distracting buttons when you just view tiddlers with tables. And although 2,3 now shows as 2,3, I can calculate with it. I expected something like #VALUE! (as in OpenOffice), but got strange calculations (A1 containing text, A2 =product(2*A1) ): A1 A2 2,3 6 3,4 8 2,036 2,003 4006 2,013 4026 This way it will be difficult to debug wrong table entries (e.g. , instead of .). Is it possible to mimic the #VALUE! error of OpenOffice? And all of a sudden I could not edit the cells anymore. I could go to edit mode of the tiddler by double clicking the table (or using the Edit button in the toolbar), but after clicking Cancel, editing the cells was still not possible. Only after reloading the TW everything worked again. I hope to do more testing in the weekend. Cheers, Ton On Nov 29, 4:53 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and I forgot to mention that the buttons are now visible only when mouse enters the table or the table is in edit mode, and invisible otherwise. On Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:45:59 PM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: Yakov, Thank you very much for so much detailed description of your ideas, I actually haven't thought that deep yet! I will think more about it and probably start working on it not far from now, though it seems like a big project to me. About the bugs I think I have fixed a couple of them, - the wrong behavior in a closed slider panel, - the strange results in partial self transclusion, The keyboard navigation in a spanned cell shall be fixed soon. Ton, I should have fixed the TWtcalc bug you mentioned, too. A pre_release file is prepared at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release.htmlfor you to try. Please do try it and tell me if there are more I need to fix. Thanks. Have fun! Vincent On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:57:36 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello. About sliders: the story seems to be rather complicated and may be far from usual usage. I put many tests in one tiddler and that's where sliders work incorrectly. I simplified the test and made it closer to real cases. Create tiddler 1 with couple of sections and a table in each: !Section 1 |table 1|c |editable|k |h-cell1|h-cell2||h |c11|c12++|| |c21|c22|| !Section 2 with merged cells: |h-cell1||h-cell2|h |c11|c12|c13| |~|c22|c23| then create another tiddler which transluces this sections, one via tiddler and another via slider: tiddler [[Tiddler 1##Section 1]] slider [[Tiddler 1##Section 2]] * And then try this: first, open the slider and click E on a table. Each table will enter the edit mode, no matter which E button was clicked. (then click E again or reload the tiddler or go to edit mode and back) And second, close the slider, click E on the table which is transcluded via tiddler, then (or after clicking E once more) open the slider. The table disappears; if you click E on the first table again, the second table appears once more, but with messed numeration. Regarding the self transclusion. A usual case for it is when I create sliders (without NestedSlidersPlugin) and tab sets like this: slider [[This tiddler##section]] somelabel sometooltip/% !section some content !end%/ /% !section 1 ... !section 2 ... !end %/tabs . Although, I place the sections *after* the transclusion macros most of the times (this test case appear from that tiddler with many tests in it). As for the test, it doesn't work for me. What I did: * downloaded the pre_release.html file via FireFox - save - save all * open it (in both FF 16.0.2, 17.0 with enabled and disabled TiddlyFox and in Opera 12.11 without TiddlySaver.jar), opened the test tiddler * click E, click c14, add + in there, click out (in edit mode the content is shown as c14+), then click E again (the content is shown as c14+c14 now) * open edit mode of the tiddler (in there the table is unchanged, the content of the cell being c14) The behavoir is the same with all the combinations of browsers/saving engines listed above. Navigation with keyboard is very nice, thanks! I especially like the behavior of the cursor when navigating left and right. The thing that needs some more tweaking is merged cells: currently arrows don't move focus into the ~ and cells; what I'd expect is that pressing left always moves
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Keyboard navigation is a very valuable addition when in Edit mode. Very nice; it speeds up editing so much. I noticed it is sometimes difficult to enter Edit mode for the first time. You enable Edit mode via de 'C' button, but a click at a cell does not 'open' the cell. After opening the tiddler once (edit, cancel) it works as expected and stays working. In practice it means you try to edit a cell and click a few times the cell, since you think the first click was not recognized. The tiddler opens in Edit mode (double click effect) and you click cancel and start edting the table. For the first time I tried TWtcalc in a TW with many tables and noticed that some of my tables missed text. A cell containing 1,2 (meant as text) showes as ,. So I tried putting an ' (apostrophe) in front, but that did not help. This brings up a few questions: 1) Is there an option to set numbers as text, like the apostrophe in Excel/OpenOffice? 2) Is it possible to switch of the calculation in tables (other than removing the systemConfig tag of TWtcalc and reloading)? 3) Is it wise to add something to the table when calculations must be performed? Like editable for tables that can be edited, plus an option to force all tables to be editable. You can imagine people don't like to inspect and edit all their tables (to force cells containing number combinations to be text), just for one table with calculations in it. Cheers, Ton On Nov 28, 6:05 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Yakov, It was a lucky evening that I was quick (usually not) to figure a way for simple keyboard navigation and fixed the bug of *partial self inclusion* (well, let's put it this way for the moment) as you brought up in the last post. It seems to work for me but I'd like you to try it before next release. A simple test file is available athttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release.html, in which you can find two tiddlers to play with. The one with title test is showing that *partial self inclusion* is working, while the other with a longer title is for keyboard navigation testing (*use only the four arrow keys*). Please try and give me comments/suggestions. Thanks. Have Fun! Vincent On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:18:20 PM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: Yakov, On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:27:33 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, glad the work is going on. The bug you mentioned is present in Android 2.3.6 as well and is not present in Android 4.0.3. I suspect that the problem is inside some html/javascript rendering engines in Android core which are used by AndTidWiki. Unfortunately, Michael (the author of ATW) is rather busy and haven't done any improvements of ATW I suggested, so it's not likely that he'll investigate this issue (which seems rather deep and complicated). Anyway, things look much better now, but unfortunately, I'll move to TWted+TWtable on Android some time later because I need to switch core versions in TWs to 2.6.6 and do some other things first. So I should upgrade to Android 4.0.3, if my poor device can do that... As for sliders, in my tests the E button doesn't work for tables within sliders; on the other hand, CSS is now tidy and clean which is very nice. It works fine in quite a few browser/OS combos that I tested: - Chrome in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - FF in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - Opera in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - IE9 in Win7 64 - IE8 in WinXP 32 - Safari in Win7 64 Which browser or operating system are you using? I still have couple of bugs which changed behavior, one in a complex context, but another is with the test tiddler I mentioned before: Section !!end |let's move the colomns|c |h-cell1|h-cell2|h-cell3|h-cell4|h |c13|c11|c12|c14| |c34|c21|c22|c24| tiddler [[test##Section]] Now it has this behavior: clicking E seemingly induces the edit mode (a row and a colomn with numbers appear), but clicking on a cell doesn't open the editing field. This tiddler is interesting in that it includes its beginning at its end, which is unusual as far as I know. Certainly I will try to see if I can fix it, but just for my curiosity, could you tell me why you would do that? My experiments are detained (may be I'll start this week) but what I've already noticed about the workflow is the lack of navigation by keyboard. Namely, it would be very helpful to be able to push down when editing a cell to go to another cell [the one below], or may be something like alt+down (which is more helpful with left and right which are used heavily to navigate within a cell. Keyboard navigation is the thing I am working on, but would take a while to release. For now the easiest navigation is to enable the Cat mode (option chkTWtedCatTheMouse, Activate/Deactivate edit mode with mouse motion.) and level it up (option chkTWtedNoClick, Edit
[tw] TiddlySnip and Firefox 17 (with TiddlyFox)
Hi all, My TiddlySnip (with MaxVersion= 99.9) does not work anymore with FF 17 (Win 7 64-bit). Clicking the Save button in the Preview snippet to save window has no effect. TiddlySnip did work with Firefox up to version 16. After upgrading to v17 (and installing the new TiddlyFox extension v1.0alpha7), TiddlySnip does not work anymore. Downgrading TiddlyFox to v1.0alpha6 did not help either. I suspect it has something to do with stricter security in Firefox. Any other ideas than downgrading Firefox to v16? Cheers, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Thanks for the fast response. I wasn't aware of a newer (modified by Tobias Beer) version of the TableSortingPlugin. After installing the v2.03 version all my problems were gone: no broken QuickEdit toolbar anymore, backstage button present and Autosave working again. No idea about the relation between this problems; I am not a programmer. Your modified version in Dropbox (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/ MTC_TW266_TWTable144_TWted144_TableSort202A_QuickEdit244.html) does work also (local), but seen over http the close button (x) - after clicking the 'C' button - displays weird, something like ⊗— (if it does not show in Google groups: a with caret, S with caret upside down and 2 'em' symbols?). May be that has something to do with Dropbox an UTF-8 as was reported when Jeremy Ruston announced TiddlyWiki in the Sky (with Dropbox) . But, when using the newest version of TableSortingPlugin, there is no need to change the code Cheers, Ton P.S Just saw you last post. This version does also works, but shows the same weird characters for the Close button when viewed over http. On Nov 12, 9:11 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, I was wrong to remove the codes for sorting purposes. The TWtable needs them to correctly show the sorting status when the header is fixed, without them it still does the sorting but does not show the status. So I put them back but changed slightly so it won't cause that TypeError: config.tableSorting.refresh is not a function again. Seems to work. You can find it at the same place:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable144_TWted144_Table... . Vincent On Monday, November 12, 2012 10:53:59 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, It turned out that we are using different versions of TableSortingPlugin, one of which has this function *refresh()* which the TWtable uses to refresh the table for sorting purposes. In the other version there is no such a function so results in TypeError: config.tableSorting.refresh is not a function. I found it not necessary to explicitly refresh the table any more (due to some changes in one of the previous versions), so removed the codes from your test file accordingly. It seems to work again. But I am not sure if that will cause other problems. Please try the following modified test file https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable144_TWted144_Table...and let me know the results. Thanks. For your information, the one I am using is version 2.0.3 modified by Tobias Beer in 2010, available at http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/bags/tobibeer_public/tiddlers/TableSo It seems to work with tabs as well. Vincent On Monday, November 12, 2012 3:17:00 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I installed the newest version 1.4.4 of your plugins in one of my TWs with a lot of tables. This TW contained the following plugins: FadingMessagesPlugin 0.2 FontSizePlugin 1.0 HoverMenuPlugin 1.11 InlineTabsPlugin 2.0 NestedSlidersPlugin 2.4.9 QuickEditPlugin 2.4.4 SimpleSearchPlugin 0.4.1 TWtable.min 1.4.4 TWted.min 1.4.4 TabEditPlugin 0.32 TableOfContentsPlugin 2.4.3 TagsplorerMacro 1.3.3 TiddlersBarPlugin 1.2.5 ToggleElementMacro 0.6 WikifiedMessagesPlugin 0.4 Everything worked fine (so you can extend the list of working plugins) till I needed to sort tables and installed TableSortingPlugin. Then I got problems in Edit mode: the toolbar of the QuickEditPlugin was broken. It has something to do with transclusion with the tiddler macro; error: TypeError: config.tableSorting.refresh is not a function. I use a modification of the TableSortingPlugin, modified for sorting in tabs, see: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/993f08... The original TableSortingPlugin did not change anything. So I made a MTC with the QuickEdit package, TableSortPlugin, TWTable and TWted [1] and observed that the backstage button has disappeared. I do not see that in my working TW (where the backstage button has been modified). Lateron I found that config.tableSorting.refresh is used in TWTable. I haven't found time to check the CatTheMouse mode thoroughly; I will do it in the near future. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable144_TWted144_TableS... On Nov 10, 9:59 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: PS Ah, and don't forget to add this option to the TWted.min Options section. By the way, I think the Note section of the TWted.min should go at least after the header table, if present at all (the Source slice seems to be enough), what do you think? пятница, 9 ноября 2012 г., 13:02:55 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Didn't plan to release anything today, but I just like
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Observations, but no explanations: Both of your Dropbox test files [1], [2] do show the 'C' and 'E' buttons when used over http (FF16). If I look at my file [3] over http, I only see the 'C' button. The only difference is that in [2] the buttons touch each other while in [1] there is 1 pixel spacing. Trying to get the files locally I observed something strange (it has nothing to do with the buttons, but I want to mention it). Normally right-clicking the page and selecting 'View Page Source' opens my configured editor (Notepad++), but with both your files the standard FF window with source text opens. This does NOT happen with my original Dropbox file [3] and other Dropbox files in my public Dropbox folder. Anyway, viewing the files locally, does show ONLY the 'C' button (FF16). If I use (installed) Safari v5.1.7, I only see the 'C' button (local and over http; local as if the plugins are disabled: small table without thick border lines). If I use Google Chrome portable (v22.0.1229.94) and Opera portable (12.02), I only see the 'C' button (local and over http). Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html [3] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html On Nov 3, 5:50 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Yakov, Cookie history is a very good point! But my FF still works normally after removing cookies, and my Opera does not have a cookie history because I only installed it a couple of days ago. The same folder issue is cleared as the same file still works at another folder. However, from your screenshot I did suspect something and made two files in my Dropbox's public folder for testing, please try and see if one of them works. 1. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html 2. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html Vincent On Saturday, November 3, 2012 6:39:20 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Well, first if you can reproduce the problem over http, that's already kind of an option. Next, where do you place Ton's TW? In the same folder as your dev TWs? I mean, although that's unlikely, there can be some forgotten cookie-option (may be you renamed something like enable TWted and didn't accounted that somewhere in your code, but as your browsers already have those cookies with old names and values, everything works), could it be so? пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 19:38:08 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Ton Yakov, It seems to me that you are facing the same problem, but I am afraid this is not an easy one for me (maybe easy for someone else) because Ton's MTC file works normally with my FF16.02 / Win7x64 (and Opera 12.02 / Win7x64 as well, see attachment). Well, to be precise it works only if saved locally. It has the same problem if opened over the internet. I have no idea how to debug under such a situation. Any suggestions? Vincent On Friday, November 2, 2012 10:22:24 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3, TWted v1.4.3), see [1] After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is not possible. FYI: The latest combined version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work with the plugins mentioned in my last post. Cheers, Ton [1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button hovers over the E button, so it's practically invisible, see the screenshot of inspection (it stays in the latest versions). Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This may be connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same screenshot): the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but not at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal width (not wider than the table). Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :) пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov Ton, Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your test file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed in the next release (see below). It seems to fix the blocking saveChanges() issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if that also fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 x64. Yakov please try and tell me the results. Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other things
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3, TWted v1.4.3), see [1] After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is not possible. FYI: The latest combined version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work with the plugins mentioned in my last post. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button hovers over the E button, so it's practically invisible, see the screenshot of inspection (it stays in the latest versions). Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This may be connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same screenshot): the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but not at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal width (not wider than the table). Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :) пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov Ton, Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your test file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed in the next release (see below). It seems to fix the blocking saveChanges() issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if that also fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 x64. Yakov please try and tell me the results. Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other things for a while. TWtable v1.4.3 - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable - Bug fix for missing backstage and blocking of saveChanges(). - The missing backstage happens for TW files that start with the default GettingStarted tiddler or any other shadowed tiddlers, because TWtable does not touch any shadowed tiddlers. It doesn't even try to find it, which resulted in a null value for a shadowed tiddler and then an exception thrown when TWtable is retrieving its title (to find its containing DOM element). If this happened when loading the DefaultTiddler then the backstage, which comes up after that, would have got no chance to load up. - I did not notice this because it did not happen to my own minimal test file, which does not start with any of the shadowed tiddlers. *But this should have happened since transclusion synchronization was implemented. Why it did not? Or it did?* - Some more bug fixes for sorting with SortableGridPlugin and TableSortingPlugin. - These bugs were partly introduced in codes to fix rows/columns and the code splitting. *Hope there are not much left*... - Changed back to normal font size for table caption. TWted v1.4.3 - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted - Set default text-alignment of a table cell to inherit. - Removed some dead codes. TWtcalc v0.7.3 - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc - Defined ROWS() and COLS()/COLUMNS() functions, which counts the number of rows/columns within a range of cells. - Bugs fixed for COLUMN()/COL() and COLUMNA()/COLA() functions. - These bugs were introduced in codes supporting absolute references. - Bug fixed with ROUND() function. - It was returning NaN when the argument results in 0. Have Fun! Vincent On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:02:38 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I had not much time to test the new versions, but I am using version 1.3.10 daily with much pleasure. Editing tables is so easy now; it saves me a lot of time. First test with the split versions was not a success (Win7 x64, FF16): I used the Minimal Test Case made for TableEdit v 1.3.9 (TW v2.6.5 with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler), added TWTable v1.4.2-1 and TWted v1.4.2, tagged them systemConfig and deleted TableEdit v1.3.9. At that moment I realized autosave was not working (I cannot recall exactly when it stopped), but manual saving was not possible either. With help of the bookmarklet Save current storeArea contents to clipboard from TiddlyTools I could restore the TW but now the backstage button had disappeared. Anyway, I could edit my sample table. May be its a coincidence, but both problems (autosave/backstage button) appeared in earlier versions of TableEdit (before the split
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent,
Very strange. May be others can have a look at my MTC [1] and report
of they see the 'E' and 'C' buttons or only the 'C'. button.
I don't know if it helps but I observed the following for a local
file:
FF16:
With TWTable and TWted both enabled I only see the 'C' button.
With TWted disabled (option) I only see the 'C' button.
With TWted and TETable both disabled I still see the 'C' button
although the table has the non-editable appearance ('small' table
without thick borders)
I do see exactly the same with Safari 5.1, Opera 12 portable and
Google Chrome portable 17.
If I use the Dropbox link [1] FF and Safari behave the same (I see
only the 'C' button); with Chrome I can't access my Dropbox file
(error).
[1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html
On Nov 2, 4:38 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Ton Yakov,
It seems to me that you are facing the same problem, but I am afraid this
is not an easy one for me (maybe easy for someone else) because Ton's MTC
file works normally with my FF16.02 / Win7x64 (and Opera 12.02 / Win7x64 as
well, see attachment). Well, to be precise it works only if saved locally.
It has the same problem if opened over the internet.
I have no idea how to debug under such a situation.
Any suggestions?
Vincent
On Friday, November 2, 2012 10:22:24 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
Hi Vincent,
I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3,
TWted v1.4.3), see [1]
After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only
the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is
not possible.
FYI: The latest combined version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work
with the plugins mentioned in my last post.
Cheers,
Ton
[1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html
On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button hovers
over the E button, so it's practically invisible, see the screenshot
of
inspection (it stays in the latest versions).
Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This may
be
connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same screenshot):
the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but
not
at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal width
(not wider than the table).
Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :)
пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
написал:
Yakov Ton,
Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your
test
file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage
problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed in
the
next release (see below). It seems to fix the blocking saveChanges()
issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if that
also
fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 x64.
Yakov please try and tell me the results.
Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other
things
for a while.
TWtable v1.4.3
- (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min
- (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable
- Bug fix for missing backstage and blocking of saveChanges().
- The missing backstage happens for TW files that start with
the
default GettingStarted tiddler or any other shadowed
tiddlers,
because TWtable does not touch any shadowed tiddlers. It
doesn't
even try to find it, which resulted in a null value for a
shadowed tiddler and then an exception thrown when TWtable is
retrieving its title (to find its containing DOM element). If
this happened
when loading the DefaultTiddler then the backstage, which
comes
up after that, would have got no chance to load up.
- I did not notice this because it did not happen to my own
minimal test file, which does not start with any of the
shadowed tiddlers.
*But this should have happened since transclusion
synchronization was implemented. Why it did not? Or it did?*
- Some more bug fixes for sorting with SortableGridPlugin and
TableSortingPlugin.
- These bugs were partly introduced in codes to fix
rows/columns
and the code splitting. *Hope there are not much left*...
- Changed back to normal font size for table caption.
TWted v1.4.3
- (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min
- (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted
- Set default text-alignment of a table cell to inherit.
- Removed some dead codes.
TWtcalc v0.7.3
- (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min
[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2 includes fixes for local file import
Hi Eric, When using Chrome I copied the generated URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html Looks normal to me. You can download a few portable browsers from www.PortableApps.com (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, ...) I saw my portable Chrome is old; I'll download the newest version v22 and test again. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 6:33 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: IE9: 2) I CANNOT import from Tiddlytools; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is CORS enabled I've seen this too. I'm investigating... Google Chrome portable 17 + TiddlySaver (24-10-2009) 2) I CANNOT import from a TW in the same folder; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. After you select the desired file, the enter a URL field is automatically filled with the file:// URI for the selected file. It is this URI that is actually used as the target of the import processing. However, there's some browser-specific trickiness to constructing that file:// URI, and some browsers have changed their file selection handling in recent versions, which might result in a badly formed local URI that cannot be opened (because of an invalid path or filename). Try this: After selecting a file, put the focus in the enter a URL input field, then copy the generated URI and post it here so I can see what it produced. I'll bet it's not properly formed. Also, can you provide a link for downloading/installing Google Chrome portable 17, so that I can test possible fixes here. thanks, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2 includes fixes for local file import
Hi Eric, Chrome v22 behaves the same. Generated URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html And when you click 'Open': Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 7:15 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, When using Chrome I copied the generated URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html Looks normal to me. You can download a few portable browsers fromwww.PortableApps.com (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, ...) I saw my portable Chrome is old; I'll download the newest version v22 and test again. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 6:33 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: IE9: 2) I CANNOT import from Tiddlytools; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is CORS enabled I've seen this too. I'm investigating... Google Chrome portable 17 + TiddlySaver (24-10-2009) 2) I CANNOT import from a TW in the same folder; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. After you select the desired file, the enter a URL field is automatically filled with the file:// URI for the selected file. It is this URI that is actually used as the target of the import processing. However, there's some browser-specific trickiness to constructing that file:// URI, and some browsers have changed their file selection handling in recent versions, which might result in a badly formed local URI that cannot be opened (because of an invalid path or filename). Try this: After selecting a file, put the focus in the enter a URL input field, then copy the generated URI and post it here so I can see what it produced. I'll bet it's not properly formed. Also, can you provide a link for downloading/installing Google Chrome portable 17, so that I can test possible fixes here. thanks, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2 includes fixes for local file import
Hi Eric, Update. Opera portable v12 URI: file://localhost/D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html And when you click 'Open': Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. I can import from TiddlyTools. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 7:20 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, Chrome v22 behaves the same. Generated URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html And when you click 'Open': Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 7:15 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric, When using Chrome I copied the generated URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html Looks normal to me. You can download a few portable browsers fromwww.PortableApps.com (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, ...) I saw my portable Chrome is old; I'll download the newest version v22 and test again. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 6:33 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: IE9: 2) I CANNOT import from Tiddlytools; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from url, please ensure this url exists and is CORS enabled I've seen this too. I'm investigating... Google Chrome portable 17 + TiddlySaver (24-10-2009) 2) I CANNOT import from a TW in the same folder; error: Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. After you select the desired file, the enter a URL field is automatically filled with the file:// URI for the selected file. It is this URI that is actually used as the target of the import processing. However, there's some browser-specific trickiness to constructing that file:// URI, and some browsers have changed their file selection handling in recent versions, which might result in a badly formed local URI that cannot be opened (because of an invalid path or filename). Try this: After selecting a file, put the focus in the enter a URL input field, then copy the generated URI and post it here so I can see what it produced. I'll bet it's not properly formed. Also, can you provide a link for downloading/installing Google Chrome portable 17, so that I can test possible fixes here. thanks, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2 includes fixes for local file import
Hi Eric, I don't know if it is a sandbox issue. I used Chrome portable Version 22.0.1229.94 Thereafter I tried 2 other portable browsers: SRWare Iron portable Version 22.0.1250.0 (16), a Chrome derivative, behaves the same: not possible to import from local file. URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html Error: Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. I can import from TiddlyTools. Comodo Dragon (portable) Version 22.1.1.0 (Based on Chromium 22.0.1229.94) , also a Chrome derivative, behaves the same: not possible to import from local file. URI: file:///D:/Test/Test6/TWHelp.html Error: Error retrieving tiddlers from local file, please make sure the file is in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki. Click Cancel to try again. I can import from TiddlyTools. Cheers, Ton On Nov 2, 7:31 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: Chrome v22 behaves the same. Hmmm.. curious. I've got a regular installation of Chrome, version: 22.0.1229.94 m, which is reported as up-to-date, and it opening/ importing works. I wonder if it's a 'sandbox' issue because of the portability tweaks? -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I had not much time to test the new versions, but I am using version 1.3.10 daily with much pleasure. Editing tables is so easy now; it saves me a lot of time. First test with the split versions was not a success (Win7 x64, FF16): I used the Minimal Test Case made for TableEdit v 1.3.9 (TW v2.6.5 with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler), added TWTable v1.4.2-1 and TWted v1.4.2, tagged them systemConfig and deleted TableEdit v1.3.9. At that moment I realized autosave was not working (I cannot recall exactly when it stopped), but manual saving was not possible either. With help of the bookmarklet Save current storeArea contents to clipboard from TiddlyTools I could restore the TW but now the backstage button had disappeared. Anyway, I could edit my sample table. May be its a coincidence, but both problems (autosave/backstage button) appeared in earlier versions of TableEdit (before the split). So I started from scratch and checked if autosave worked after every change. * empty TW v2.6.6 * Added systemConfig tagged tiddler with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; * Added TWtable tagged with systemConfig Up till then everything was OK, but after reloading the TW the backstage button had disappeared (the same in Chrome 17 portable) * Added a tiddler with a table. Table could be edited. See MTC [1] I did not do any further tests. For your information, the following plugins work together with TableEdit v1.3.10: DropDownMenuPlugin 2.1 GotoPlugin 1.9.2 ImageSizePlugin 1.2.3 ImportTiddlersPlugin 4.6.2 InlineJavascriptPlugin 1.9.6 ListFiltrPlugin 0.9.1 Beta NestedSlidersPlugin 2.4.9 QuickEditPlugin 2.4.4 QuickNotePlugin 2.1.0 QuickOpenTagPlugin 3.0.1a RenameTagsPlugin 3.0 ($Rev: 5501 $) SaveAndReloadMacro 1.0 SearchOptionsPlugin 3.0.10 SimpleMessagePlugin 0.1 TabEditPlugin 0.32 TableOfContentsPlugin 2.4.3 TagSearchPlugin 1.2.0 (2010-10-10) TagsplorerMacro 1.3.3 TiddlerTweakerPlugin 2.4.5 TiddlersBarPluginMP 1.2.5 TiddlyFileImportr 0.2.7 ToggleTagPlugin 3.1.0a YourSearchPlugin 2.1.6 (2012-04-19) Note: there are 2 search plugins installed. I can switch between them, but mainly use YourSearchPlugin. Both worked together with TableEdit. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable142-1_TWted142.html On Nov 1, 6:40 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent, Thanks a lot for the feedback. Currently I do not have time to work on these plugins so you will need to wait a while for the next upgrade. Here are a few quick replies I can make at this moment. That's ok, for current use TableEditor 1.3.12 seems to be good enough. Both Opera 12.02 and FireFox 16.02 work in my Win7 x64 (running in VirtualBox 4.1.22 r80657 over Ubuntu 12.04) with TWtable+TWted, so I am guessing there might be a plugin conflict in your system. Could you try to verify this? No, it's definitely not a plugin conflict as for testing I use separate repositories, where only TableEditor (couple of versions) and others (TWted, TWted.min etc) are stored, and only one set is active (i.e. when I test TableEditor, TWted and others have systemConfigDisable, when I test TWted + TWtable, others get the tag). And I also noticed that TWtcalc.min is not hiding all its codes, which is due to the use of percentage symbol (%) in the recently modified COUNT() function. Maybe will switch to another symbol... Well, you can try @@display:none @@ wrapper instead of /% %/, I think this will work. I see. That was my mistake! Guess I should change it to TWtable.min... or just remove it and show a warning message if TWtable (or TWtable.min) is not installed (because people can choose to install either one)... This depends on the plugin mechnism. The Requires slice is used by users to see what is required, but also by TW plugin engine which makes sure that the required plugins are launched *before* the requiring one (I'm not sure what is done if the required plugin is not found, but this can be investigated by learning the loadPlugins function [1]). If the two plugins can be launched in an arbitrary order and work anyway, than I'd suggest to replace Requires by some synonym, so that it would serve for users, but doesn't do anything with the plugin launch order. However, I have stopped TableEditor so further development will go to TWtable+TWted combo. We shall fix the first issue before other things. Sure, very true. I didn't know about sliders so tables in there are not properly prepared. This will be added in the near future. Ok (it's just previously they worked well, if I remember correctly). Looking forward. [1]https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/main.js#L138 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[tw] Re: HELP! Firefox conflicts and losing new edits.
Hi Naamah, I don't know if there is a better option, but this works: Tiddlytools has a bookmarklet Save current storeArea contents to clipboard (search for bookmarklet). Drag the bookmarklet to your bookmarks. With your TW open, click the bookmarklet and follow the instructions. Then at least you can have all your tiddlers as plain text in a text editor. Use an old (v3.6.x) portable version of Firefox to circumvent the security/saving problems with new versions (especially v 15 and up). Good luck, Ton On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:16:18 AM UTC+1, Naamah wrote: So, after a long time letting it languish, I come back to a TW I'd been working on, and I put about six hours' worth of work on it before realizing that it wasn't creating backups, and I couldn't save. So now I have this file open with six hours' worth of work on it that I really really don't want to lose, and no way to save it. I found the discussion about modifying the user.js file, and to the extent that I understood what it was saying (I am not sure I did, this is far from my forte) I think I actually did that, but it does say that I have to restart Firefox to get the preferences thing to work. If I restart Firefox, I'll lose my work. Needless to say, I am absolutely livid. I'm using Firefox 16.0.1 on a Windows 7 computer. Please advise. I've done the best thing I can think of to do, which is take a (massive) screencap of every edit I've committed, but dear god, it'll be just as much work restoring it from there as it was putting it in in the first place. Keep in mind I am smart, but I know f-all about computers, programming, and the like (which is why I liked TW in the first place). Please try to make things incredibly simple. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/eFnFG6x9AFsJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Disappearing backstage symbol also with MTC on Win7, FF15 Chrome portable 17. Cheers, Ton On Oct 10, 2:47 am, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Table edit plugin 1.3.11, makes my backstage '' symbol disappear, meaning I am unable to access the backstage. This is in Firefox 15.0.1 on Linux, 64 bit. Keep up the great work :) ...Lyall -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I made a Minimal Test Case [1] Lyall changed his backstage symbol. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_1.3.11.html On Oct 10, 10:18 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Lyall, My backstage does not have the '' symbol but a curly arrow, maybe I am looking at the wrong place? Besides, I do have access to my backstage with my FF15.0.1/Ubuntu 64, so I guess it's probably plugin conflict? If so then it will be great if you can find the conflicting one. If not then I'll need more information to have a better idea. Cheers Vincent On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:47:38 AM UTC+8, Lyall wrote: FYI: Table edit plugin 1.3.11, makes my backstage '' symbol disappear, meaning I am unable to access the backstage. This is in Firefox 15.0.1 on Linux, 64 bit. Keep up the great work :) ...Lyall -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Table Editor v1.3.10 does save again. Don't bother about the FF15/Win7 issue I have. I think is has something to do with my profile. Disabling all add-ons did not help. But a 'fresh' FF15 portable on the same Win7 PC does work as expected. Two other Win7 PCs with FF15 and about the same set of add-ons do too work as expected. Cheers, Ton On Friday, September 28, 2012 8:07:14 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, The saveChange bug turned out to be a silly mistake of mine! Thanks for the info. But the FF15/Win7 issue is still far from me for the same browser/OS combo works here. Maybe you can tell me what addons you have so I can get them installed and try? TableEditor v1.3.10 - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Changes made: - Fixed the saveChange()-not-functioning bug when TableEditor is disabled. - Set to true the spellcheck property of the edit box, making use of the spell-checking feature in HTML5. - Larger font-size in table caption if given. - Added option chkTEditorClickAway to toggle the click-away-to-accept behavior. - This could be convenient when one needs to hop between windows to read and take notes. Vincent On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:53:17 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I tried your configuration option but can't get it to work. I do not get configuration options when I click the 'C' button (FF15/Win7). The only effect I see when I click 'C': the 'E' button dims! But with IE9, Google Chrome 17 portable it works! With a fresh FF15 portable it works as well. I tried diasbling all add-ons in my (installed) FF to no avail. May be it is something in my profile. I tested further with FF15 portable. When I disable the Table editor, autosave did not work anynmore but even manual saving (button 'save changes') was impossible! The same holds for IE9 and Google Chrome 17 portable. See MTC [1]. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_139.html On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:43:19 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin. TableEditor v1.3.9 - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it. There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for interested people. Seems to work. Have Fun! Vincent On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Thanks for the workaround. Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the TableEditor itself. Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow tiddler YourSearch Options. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, although the actual reason remains unclear to me... TableEditor v1.3.8 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link issue in multi-line mode. Have fun! Vincent On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo Borkowski (abego-software). When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled autosave does not work anymore. With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled autosave does work as expected. I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Just an update about the FF15/Win7 issue. Disabling all FF add-ons did not help. Resetting FF (menu Help Troubleshooting Information Reset Firefox) did not help. Uninstalling FF (without removing personal data) did not help. Uninstalling FF (with removing personal data) did help. So I started with a 'fresh' installation of FF, imported my bookmarks and added all my add-ons one-by-one. In between I checked every time if I could bring up the Configuration menu, which was possible. I ended with FF with the same add-ons as before AND with a working Configuration menu. I guess my FF profile was corrupted. Cheers, Ton On Sep 28, 12:35 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, Table Editor v1.3.10 does save again. Don't bother about the FF15/Win7 issue I have. I think is has something to do with my profile. Disabling all add-ons did not help. But a 'fresh' FF15 portable on the same Win7 PC does work as expected. Two other Win7 PCs with FF15 and about the same set of add-ons do too work as expected. Cheers, Ton On Friday, September 28, 2012 8:07:14 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, The saveChange bug turned out to be a silly mistake of mine! Thanks for the info. But the FF15/Win7 issue is still far from me for the same browser/OS combo works here. Maybe you can tell me what addons you have so I can get them installed and try? TableEditor v1.3.10 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Changes made: - Fixed the saveChange()-not-functioning bug when TableEditor is disabled. - Set to true the spellcheck property of the edit box, making use of the spell-checking feature in HTML5. - Larger font-size in table caption if given. - Added option chkTEditorClickAway to toggle the click-away-to-accept behavior. - This could be convenient when one needs to hop between windows to read and take notes. Vincent On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:53:17 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I tried your configuration option but can't get it to work. I do not get configuration options when I click the 'C' button (FF15/Win7). The only effect I see when I click 'C': the 'E' button dims! But with IE9, Google Chrome 17 portable it works! With a fresh FF15 portable it works as well. I tried diasbling all add-ons in my (installed) FF to no avail. May be it is something in my profile. I tested further with FF15 portable. When I disable the Table editor, autosave did not work anynmore but even manual saving (button 'save changes') was impossible! The same holds for IE9 and Google Chrome 17 portable. See MTC [1]. Cheers, Ton [1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_139.html On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:43:19 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin. TableEditor v1.3.9 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it. There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for interested people. Seems to work. Have Fun! Vincent On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Thanks for the workaround. Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the TableEditor itself. Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow tiddler YourSearch Options. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, although the actual reason remains unclear to me... TableEditor v1.3.8 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link issue in multi-line mode. Have fun! Vincent On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo Borkowski (abego-software). When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled autosave does not work anymore
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I tried your configuration option but can't get it to work. I do not get configuration options when I click the 'C' button (FF15/Win7). The only effect I see when I click 'C': the 'E' button dims! But with IE9, Google Chrome 17 portable it works! With a fresh FF15 portable it works as well. I tried diasbling all add-ons in my (installed) FF to no avail. May be it is something in my profile. I tested further with FF15 portable. When I disable the Table editor, autosave did not work anynmore but even manual saving (button 'save changes') was impossible! The same holds for IE9 and Google Chrome 17 portable. See MTC [1]. Cheers, Ton [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_139.html On Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:43:19 AM UTC+2, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, Thanks for the suggestions. I have added an option to enable/disable the plugin, also a popup for easy configuration for the plugin. TableEditor v1.3.9 - (min version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version) http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Main thing is a popup for easy configuration of the plugin. Press the 'C' button to bring it up. Note that if you disable the plugin, you'll need to go AdvancedOptions shadow tiddler to re-enable it. There is an option to enable/disable transposition of a table for interested people. Seems to work. Have Fun! Vincent On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:17:57 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Thanks for the workaround. Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the TableEditor itself. Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow tiddler YourSearch Options. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, although the actual reason remains unclear to me... TableEditor v1.3.8 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link issue in multi-line mode. Have fun! Vincent On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo Borkowski (abego-software). When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled autosave does not work anymore. With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled autosave does work as expected. I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the table and text overlay. That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did not show up anymore! Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet. 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the TableEditor is enabled. I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Thanks for the workaround. Yes, it works, not only in my MTC but also in my TW with 20+ plugins. Anyhow, I still use ToggleTagPlugin to enable/disable the TableEditor. May be it is an idea to let the plugin make a shadow tiddler where you can put in all configuration options including enable/disable of the TableEditor itself. Just as is done in YourSearchPlugin [1] where there is the shadow tiddler YourSearch Options. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin On Sep 24, 7:44 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, Fortunately it didn't take me too much time to figure a workaround, although the actual reason remains unclear to me... TableEditor v1.3.8 - (min version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - (full version)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Workarounds on the autosave issue with YourSearchPlugin and the broken link issue in multi-line mode. Have fun! Vincent On Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo Borkowski (abego-software). When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled autosave does not work anymore. With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled autosave does work as expected. I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin [2]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the table and text overlay. That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did not show up anymore! Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet. 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the TableEditor is enabled. I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help either. I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as expected. One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin Let's keep having fun! Vincent On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to consistent testing in several days. Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at [1]? As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which bothers you? Best regards, Yakov. [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent; Forgot to mention in the last post: Tested with Win 7 FF 15 The autosave problem was also found with Google Chrome 17 portable. A Minimal Test Case with TableEditor did autosave correctly in FF. There must be a conflicting plugin. I tried to disable the plugins that use autoSaveChanges to no avail. There are about 20 plugins left to try :-) Cheers, Ton On Sep 21, 7:55 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the table and text overlay. I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did not show up anymore! Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the TableEditor is enabled. I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help either. I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as expected. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to consistent testing in several days. Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at [1]? As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which bothers you? Best regards, Yakov. [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link below. Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any useful test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a larger one to test when I have a chance. FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. Cheers Vincent On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0 (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables without a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code using the following wrapper: /*** [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] /% ***/ [code here] /*** %/ ***/ As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that tiddler .. macro gets an error if used with section which contains a table: tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a table]]. Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, transcluded it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the first tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened at the same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as it was before editing). I also did a test with merged cells (||one long cell|, |one high cell|\n|~|) and it seems that everything works fine. Is it cut-and-past the whole column to the one next you are talking about? If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo Borkowski (abego-software). When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled autosave does not work anymore. With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled autosave does work as expected. I made a Minimal Test Case [2]. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin [2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the table and text overlay. That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version? I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did not show up anymore! Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet. 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the TableEditor is enabled. I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help either. I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as expected. One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong. Cheers, Ton [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin Let's keep having fun! Vincent On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to consistent testing in several days. Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at [1]? As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which bothers you? Best regards, Yakov. [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link below. Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any useful test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a larger one to test when I have a chance. FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. Cheers Vincent On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0 (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables without a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. A small note
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the table and text overlay. I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did not show up anymore! Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the TableEditor is enabled. I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help either. I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as expected. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin [2] http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr [3] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vincent, sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to consistent testing in several days. Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at [1]? As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which bothers you? Best regards, Yakov. [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Yakov, I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link below. Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any useful test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a larger one to test when I have a chance. FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. Cheers Vincent On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: Hello Vincent, thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0 (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables without a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code using the following wrapper: /*** [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] /% ***/ [code here] /*** %/ ***/ As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that tiddler .. macro gets an error if used with section which contains a table: tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a table]]. Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, transcluded it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the first tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened at the same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as it was before editing). I also did a test with merged cells (||one long cell|, |one high cell|\n|~|) and it seems that everything works fine. Is it cut-and-past the whole column to the one next you are talking about? If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, though). If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left is changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, D. It is close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole colomn (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so that one needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a new colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such manual sorting would be nice.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Vincent, With v1.3.5 the tabs ... and tiddler ... macros work OK. I saw you left out the default added table caption 'Table n' when no caption was specified. That's good, I think. Thanks a lot. I second Yakov's observation: It's really nice that each time I open TW google group, there's something new and sometimes incredibly useful, or at least interesting questions to answer.. Cheers, Ton On Sep 11, 5:33 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: TableEditor v1.3.5 - min versionhttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN - full versionhttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor Some minor changes described in revision history in the full version. Major change is multiple transclusion support, seehttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--Transclusionfor example. The previous problematic example should also work now (http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransc...). It works fine within my limited tests. Please try and give feedback. Thanks. Vincent On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:30:34 PM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: Ton, Thanks for trying it out so hard! After seeing your result, I figured that I wouldn't want to use it that way myself. So I changed the codes to better support multiple transclusion. Seems to work within my tests. I will put it on soon for interested people to try and see. Thanks again for the always useful feedback! Vincent On Monday, September 10, 2012 7:28:25 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Your precondition of ONE transclusion macro - one tiddler ... macro or one tabs ... macro - in ONE tiddler sounded very logical to me given the explanation in http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransc... Your example showed me yesterday that only the first table (from the first transcluded tiddler) can be edited; I could not edit the second table (at least I thought so). But today I can edit the second table of your example (win 7, FF 15, IE 9, Chrome 17 portable)! So I made a Minimal Test Case [1] I could edit all tables in a tiddler with two tabs ... macros in it. But there is an issue: If you do not switch the tabs in the second tabs ... macro BEFORE edting, you cannot edit the first row of the table in this second tab ... macro and upon editing cells in other rows the cell contains the value of the cell above the edited cell (upon saving values are sometimes saved in the 'wrong' cell). So switching tabs in the second tabs ... macro is essential for correct editing. I could also edit all tables in a tiddler with four tiddler ... macros in it. But there is an issue as well: you cannot edit the first row of the table in the last three tiddler ... macros and upon editing cells in other rows the cell contains the value of the cell above the edited cell. I could not find a trick as with the tabs ... macro. Note that the tables in the transcluded tiddlers are numbered Table 0, Table 1, Table 2, Table 3 (in your example http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransc... both are labeled Table 0). Test conditions for the MTC: Win 7, FF 15, IE 9, Chrome 17 portable. Cheers, Ton On Sep 10, 12:36 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent, thank you so much! This is indeed a much-and-long-needed plugin. I tested a bit in Android, it even works there in both AndTidWiki and FireFox 15! Couple of notes: * there's an inconvenient behavior of editable (because of editable class or chkTEditorAllTableEditable) tables without a given caption. Browsers are separated in the following two groups: Opera, FireFox (including FF for Android), IE create a nonpresistent caption Table 1 etc (Table 2, if there are two such tables) which is just displayed with the E button but which is not stored (if, for instance, chkTEditorAllTableEditable is changed to false, such caption dissapear); while Chrome and Safari (and AndTidWiki) don't create such caption and don't create the E button as well. It would be more convenient if in such case each browser creates an empty caption (or a caption with nbsp; content which is not visible). * may be it's not consistent mentioning this as you already discuss copying and pasting colomns, but a useful (and probably not difficult to implement) feature would be shifting colomns left and right (such buttons can be added besides those insert colomn left/right in the same menu). This is especially useful in tables created for comparison of things. * in Android, there are some problems with row/colomn menus: ** once a (say, colomn) menu appears, I can't make it disappear, only substitute it with the menu of another colomn (would be nice to make it disappear by tapping somewhere outside the table) ** there's a bug with row menus in AndTidWiki, it behaves
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Your precondition of ONE transclusion macro - one tiddler ... macro or one tabs ... macro - in ONE tiddler sounded very logical to me given the explanation in http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransclusion Your example showed me yesterday that only the first table (from the first transcluded tiddler) can be edited; I could not edit the second table (at least I thought so). But today I can edit the second table of your example (win 7, FF 15, IE 9, Chrome 17 portable)! So I made a Minimal Test Case [1] I could edit all tables in a tiddler with two tabs ... macros in it. But there is an issue: If you do not switch the tabs in the second tabs ... macro BEFORE edting, you cannot edit the first row of the table in this second tab ... macro and upon editing cells in other rows the cell contains the value of the cell above the edited cell (upon saving values are sometimes saved in the 'wrong' cell). So switching tabs in the second tabs ... macro is essential for correct editing. I could also edit all tables in a tiddler with four tiddler ... macros in it. But there is an issue as well: you cannot edit the first row of the table in the last three tiddler ... macros and upon editing cells in other rows the cell contains the value of the cell above the edited cell. I could not find a trick as with the tabs ... macro. Note that the tables in the transcluded tiddlers are numbered Table 0, Table 1, Table 2, Table 3 (in your example http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransclusion both are labeled Table 0). Test conditions for the MTC: Win 7, FF 15, IE 9, Chrome 17 portable. Cheers, Ton On Sep 10, 12:36 am, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent, thank you so much! This is indeed a much-and-long-needed plugin. I tested a bit in Android, it even works there in both AndTidWiki and FireFox 15! Couple of notes: * there's an inconvenient behavior of editable (because of editable class or chkTEditorAllTableEditable) tables without a given caption. Browsers are separated in the following two groups: Opera, FireFox (including FF for Android), IE create a nonpresistent caption Table 1 etc (Table 2, if there are two such tables) which is just displayed with the E button but which is not stored (if, for instance, chkTEditorAllTableEditable is changed to false, such caption dissapear); while Chrome and Safari (and AndTidWiki) don't create such caption and don't create the E button as well. It would be more convenient if in such case each browser creates an empty caption (or a caption with nbsp; content which is not visible). * may be it's not consistent mentioning this as you already discuss copying and pasting colomns, but a useful (and probably not difficult to implement) feature would be shifting colomns left and right (such buttons can be added besides those insert colomn left/right in the same menu). This is especially useful in tables created for comparison of things. * in Android, there are some problems with row/colomn menus: ** once a (say, colomn) menu appears, I can't make it disappear, only substitute it with the menu of another colomn (would be nice to make it disappear by tapping somewhere outside the table) ** there's a bug with row menus in AndTidWiki, it behaves in the following way: tiddler content: |table 1|c |editable|k |h-cell1|h-cell2||h |c11|c12+|| |c21|c22|| when entering the edit mode, a menu of (~nonexisting) row (effectively of the line after the last row) appears without me tapping anywhere; clicking the add row below button adds a row outside the talbe, with a blank line of space between it and the table, if such space line was present, and adds a row after the last row of the table one otherwise; clicking add row above creates a row after the last one in any case; delete row button deletes the line after the table if it is present, or does nothing otherwise. It's really nice that each time I open TW google group, there's something new and sometimes incredibly useful, or at least interesting questions to answer.. Thanks again, Best regards, Yakov. воскресенье, 9 сентября 2012 г., 14:30:34 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: Ton, Thanks a lot. The TabEditPlugin did give me a good idea about how to do. TableEditor v1.3.4 minimized version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN full version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor The main change is *transclusion support*: it is *now possible to edit a transcluded table loaded with tabs ... or tiddler ... macros*. Examples: 1.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TabsMacro 2.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TiddlerMacro Things work fine with ONE transclusion macro - one tiddler ... macro or one tabs ... macro - in ONE tiddler. *More than one transclusion macros in the same tiddler will confuse the
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, You're the man. Excellent. The ease with which you can edit tables is so great that the precondition of one transclusion (tiddler ... or tabs ... macro) per tiddler is minor. Anyway, in case you use the TableEditor in combination with the TabEditPlugin you can use more tabs ... macros in a tiddler and edit them! In case of more tiddler ... macros per tiddler you have to open the transcluded tiddlers by hand. A minor issue if you can edit tables so easy! Thanks a lot. Ton On Sep 9, 12:30 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ton, Thanks a lot. The TabEditPlugin did give me a good idea about how to do. TableEditor v1.3.4 minimized version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--MIN full version:http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor The main change is *transclusion support*: it is *now possible to edit a transcluded table loaded with tabs ... or tiddler ... macros*. Examples: 1.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TabsMacro 2.http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--TiddlerMacro Things work fine with ONE transclusion macro - one tiddler ... macro or one tabs ... macro - in ONE tiddler. *More than one transclusion macros in the same tiddler will confuse the TableEditor*. Seehttp://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor--Example--IssueWithTransc... for details. Vincent On Saturday, September 8, 2012 9:26:36 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: Hi Vincent, Yes, Version 1.3.3 solves my problem with TiddlerBarsPlugin and (partly) the problems with the tabs macro: the 'E' is shown but you cannot Edit the contents as you already stated (tab transclusion). As a workaround I installed the old but still working TabEditPlugin from Saq Imtiaz [1] May be it contains ideas you can use. See MTC with TableEditor v1.3.3 and TabEditPlugin: MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html Cheers, Ton [1]http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#TabEditPlugin On Sep 8, 9:31 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: wolfgang, I tried in a clean TW file with only two plugins: EditSectionPlugin and TableEditor v1.3.3, no such jumps are happening! Maybe I fixed it somehow along the way without knowing it? However, the jummping happens if TiddlersBarPlugin is included. I don't know about other plugins, you can play with this filehttps:// dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/CleanTest-with-EditSectionPlugi...and see. Vincent On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:22:39 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote: HI Vincent, I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this column', but this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It seems possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet... No, just wanted a first row which shows the letter for each column at the top, and a first column showing the numbering of rows - just as in spreadsheets and which would be auto updated when a row or column is added or deleted. I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the 'done' button to the toolbar in view mode. That's great! But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted. Though gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example whenever cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell). Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and '', the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the formatters do their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that function. Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I tested here (with your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1): Chrome/Ubuntu 12.04, FF 14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7, Safari/Win7. I guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the plugins you are using and I am not. If you can find it then I can try to fix it. Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, it must be some plugins interfering. Actually the same jumps happens in my TW with EditSectionPlugin on saves. Already thought too bad, because in this case the possible option to use it with TableEditor for editing cell formatting didn't looked that good anymore. However, at TiddlyTools these jumps on saves with EditSectionPlugin do not happen there. TiddlersBarPlugin and OpenTopPlugin were the first coming to mind, but disabling these didn't solve it. Will keep looking for the offending. Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent, Yes, Version 1.3.3 solves my problem with TiddlerBarsPlugin and (partly) the problems with the tabs macro: the 'E' is shown but you cannot Edit the contents as you already stated (tab transclusion). As a workaround I installed the old but still working TabEditPlugin from Saq Imtiaz [1] May be it contains ideas you can use. See MTC with TableEditor v1.3.3 and TabEditPlugin: MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html Cheers, Ton [1] http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#TabEditPlugin On Sep 8, 9:31 am, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote: wolfgang, I tried in a clean TW file with only two plugins: EditSectionPlugin and TableEditor v1.3.3, no such jumps are happening! Maybe I fixed it somehow along the way without knowing it? However, the jummping happens if TiddlersBarPlugin is included. I don't know about other plugins, you can play with this filehttps://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/CleanTest-with-EditSectionPlugi...and see. Vincent On Monday, August 27, 2012 9:22:39 PM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote: HI Vincent, I am guessing your =A means 'copy the whole column A to this column', but this syntax is not supported in the current TableCalculator. It seems possible to support such a syntax though...I am not sure yet... No, just wanted a first row which shows the letter for each column at the top, and a first column showing the numbering of rows - just as in spreadsheets and which would be auto updated when a row or column is added or deleted. I've figured a way to work with the UndoPlugin without adding the 'done' button to the toolbar in view mode. That's great! But what still is disrupting the workflow are the 'jump-ups' with a refresh of long table tiddlers after each row/column added/deleted. Though gladly this doesn't happen with every cell edited, but for example whenever cells are joined too (ie: after entering a '~' in a cell). Upon insertion/deletion of rows/columns, or joining cells by '~' and '', the TableEditor calls the story.refreshTiddler() to let the formatters do their jobs. The 'jump-ups' is probably caused somewhere in that function. Unfortunately this does not happen in all the browsers I tested here (with your large table and Eric's UndoPlugin 0.2.1): Chrome/Ubuntu 12.04, FF 14.0.1/Ubuntu 12.04, FF14.0.1/Win7, Chrome/win7, IE9/Win7, Safari/Win7. I guess the TableEditor is interfering with some of the plugins you are using and I am not. If you can find it then I can try to fix it. Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, it must be some plugins interfering. Actually the same jumps happens in my TW with EditSectionPlugin on saves. Already thought too bad, because in this case the possible option to use it with TableEditor for editing cell formatting didn't looked that good anymore. However, at TiddlyTools these jumps on saves with EditSectionPlugin do not happen there. TiddlersBarPlugin and OpenTopPlugin were the first coming to mind, but disabling these didn't solve it. Will keep looking for the offending. Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables
Hi Vincent,
I like the TableEditorPlugin more and more. It saves a lot of work!
But I ran into some 'rendering' problems:
1) Transclusion of tiddlers with (editable) tables:
There is a difference between opening transcluded tiddlers via
DeafaultTiddlers or just opening them.
Via DefaultTiddlere the 'E' button is NOT shown; by normal opening the
'E' button is shown, but the width of the table is so small that only
part of the table (one column?) shows up (with horizontal scrollbar).
If the 'E' button is not shown, clicking Edit/Cancel in the toolbar
does reveal the 'E' button with partly visible table (with scrollbar)
2) Tiddlers with (editable) tables shown via the tabs macro:
Opening the tiddler with the tabs macro (normal or via
DefaultTiddlers) shows thw 'E' button, but by clicking one of the tabs
the 'E' button disappears.
I made a minimal Test Case in Dropbox for the effects given in 1) and
2):
MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_tabs.html
3) Tiddlers with (editable) tables in combination with
TiddlerBarsPlugin [1]
Text positioned UNDER the table is shifted to the top so the table and
text overlay
I made a minimal Test Case in Dropbox for the effects given in 3):
MTC_Table_Editor_Tiddlers_Bar
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_Table_Editor_Tiddlers_Bar.html
[1] http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TiddlersBarPlugin
Cheers,
Ton
On Sep 6, 12:13 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote:
TableEditor v1.3.2http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TableEditor
- Fixed the table height bug and system AutoSave issue.
Question: How do I get notified when an option is changed? I tried
store.addNotification('SystemSettings', my_function) but only get notified
upon loading the file. What am I missing?
Vincent
On Thursday, September 6, 2012 7:42:47 AM UTC+8, Lyall wrote:
I seem to be having a little problem with formatting of tables in the new
version.
I loaded the plugin into a brand new tiddlywiki (from tiddlywiki.com) as
a part of trying to identify problematic plugin.
The following tiddler contents gives interesting results in Firefox 15,
linux, 64 bit.
Between, not including the =-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-
|editable|k
|!Organization|~A company|
|!Organizational Uni|Employment Status - Employees|
|!Organizational Unit|~Wherever|
|!Common Name|Whatever|
|!Email Address|exa...@example.com javascript:|
|!Serial Number|1234567890123456789012345456678|
Some wordds that seem to cause - a problem.
See AnotherTiddlerForMore information
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
For me, I see what the attached screen shot shows.
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[tw] Re: Code snippet to edit this tiddler
Hi Mark, See [1]. I think that is what you need. Cheers, Ton [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d4e1711ce95a809f/38ae63bba8e48eb1?lnk=gstq=Script+for+Edit+button+to+open+a+tiddler+for+editing#38ae63bba8e48eb1 On Sep 6, 5:54 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a quick snippet of code that would allow me to put an Edit this tiddler button into a tiddler which would then be included in a slider? I could of course just put [[Name of tiddler]] into the tiddler, but I'd rather have something that will still be true even if I change the name of the tiddler, and that can be just put into the new tiddler text. Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Code snippet to edit this tiddler
Hi Mark, Forget my earlier post. toolbar editTiddler does the job. Cheers, Ton On Sep 6, 9:14 am, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, See [1]. I think that is what you need. Cheers, Ton [1]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/d4e171... On Sep 6, 5:54 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a quick snippet of code that would allow me to put an Edit this tiddler button into a tiddler which would then be included in a slider? I could of course just put [[Name of tiddler]] into the tiddler, but I'd rather have something that will still be true even if I change the name of the tiddler, and that can be just put into the new tiddler text. Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Mouseover problem
Hi Morris,
I think it is defined in StyleSheetColors:
.toolbar {color:[[ColorPalette::PrimaryMid]];}
.toolbar a {color:[[ColorPalette::TertiaryLight]];}
.selected .toolbar a {color:[[ColorPalette::TertiaryMid]];}
.selected .toolbar a:hover {color:[[ColorPalette::Foreground]];}
Cheers,
Ton
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:35:52 AM UTC+2, Morris Gray wrote:
Could someone tell me what mechanism is used to cause the toolbar on
tiddlers to come and go on mouseover.
My problem is that in edit mode, mousing off the tiddler makes the whole
thing go away. Note that this is an old TW I have cobbled together years
ago. But I can never remember how the toolbar comes and goes to find the
problem.
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[tw] Re: Upgrading from 2.6.2 to 2.6.5, importing tiddlers and syncing plugins
Hi Lyall, I had the same problem: not possible to upgrade from TW2.6.2 to 2.6.5. You can use the ImportTiddlersPlugin from TiddlyTools to import all your tiddlers from your old TW into en empty new one. ImportTiddlersPlugin is even available as an bookmarklet. Cheers, Ton On Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:42:16 AM UTC+2, Lyall wrote: I noticed that none of my plugins 'sync' any longer and I thought I would try get up to date by manually importing the plugins I use from TiddlyTools but I can't seem to 'import' plugins from tiddlytools. I figured I must simply be out of date. I have a tiddlywiki which is version 2.6.2 so I figured I would upgrade to the current 2.6.5. I am running TiddlyWiki in Firefox 14.0.1 on linux. Backstage upgrade doesn't work. Using the new empty tiddlywiki, I can't import tiddlers from my existing tiddlywiki. Exporting all my tiddlers to a file, using backstage works fine but loading an empty 2.6.5 and attempting to import the exported tiddlers fails. I am kind of stuck, short of breaking out a text editor and pasting all the tiddlers from old to new, does any one have any suggestions as to how I can proceed? ...Lyall -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/BsmdItpihtUJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: New: ListFiltrPlugin
Hi Tobias, Nice plugin. It even can be used in combination with the timeline macro and FND's tagsplorer macro! Thanks a lot, Ton On Jul 8, 9:53 am, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Here's a new plugin that might prove helpful for a number of usecases:http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#ListFiltr Essentially it allows to easily filter any rendered list or list-like pattern (but not tables). Enjoy, Tobias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: List tiddler links in drop down boxes or as a list of letters
Another approach: just using TWCore's tab macro. A tiddler containing: tabs A A B B C C ... Z Z And tiddlers A to Z containing your lists, e.g B containing: Bacon Beans Ball Bin Cheers, Ton On May 8, 10:53 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: I have a text list of about 500 words which will be links to other tiddlers. What I am after is an easy way to display this. I was thinking a drop down list for each letter (a-z) or even a list of letters (a-z) which when clicked displays the sub list. For example if I clicked on B below would be shown A B C D E F G... Bacon Beans Ball Bin For your purposes, start by putting the text list, sorted alphabetically, into a single tiddler (e.g., [[WordList]], and then add in single-letter section headings like this: !A About All Another !B Bacon Beans Ball Bin !C ...etc... !D ... !Z Zebra Zowie Zymurgy Note: since you want these words to all be links to tiddlers, you will have to enclose each within doubled square brackets (e.g., [[Zowie]]), otherwise they will appear a simple plain text (unless, of course, they are written as WikiWords, which are automatically treated as links). Next, install this plugin: http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ShowPopupPlugin which will let you embed the following macro calls in any tiddler you like: showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##A]] label:A showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##B]] label:B showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##C]] label:C ... showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##X]] label:X showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##Y]] label:Y showPopup tiddler:[[WordList##Z]] label:Z If you put the macros onto one line (i.e, omit the newlines above), you will get a single row of output that looks like: A B C ... X Y Z where clicking a letter shows a popup list with the contents of the corresponding section of the [[WordList]]. QED. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios WAS THIS ANSWER HELPFUL? IF SO, PLEASE MAKE A DONATION http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations note: donations are directly used to pay for food, rent, gas, net connection, etc., so please give generously and often! Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Inline, nested tabs extension?
Hi Antaeus, How about using Tiddlytools' QuickEdit package? http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPackage With that you can make custom insertions with a click of a button, e.g. inserting the default (2, 3, ..) tabs macro or inline tabs. Cheers, Ton On Apr 27, 1:45 am, Antaeus Feldspar afelds...@gmail.com wrote: I've been doing some experimenting, and I think I'm concluding that the syntax which I've always found concentration-breaking before about trying to set up tabs for content in the same tiddler isn't in the sections - it's in the tabs macro itself. I mean, just to set up a pane with two tabs takes a minimum of eight words in the macro invocation! I've figured out a way to use transclusion to make it easier, by substituting sensible defaults, but I'm not sure it'll really save that much except with large numbers of tabs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: ToggleLeftSideBar doesn't work
Hi Milind, Just to be sure: You know the difference between a transclusion and a plugin? According to Eric (from TiddlyTools): Unlike plugins, transclusions are only applied if they are 'rendered' somewhere in your document. To ensure that a transclusion will be always invoked, you can embed it in a tiddler that is displayed whenever the document is loaded, such as MainMenu, SideBarOptions, SiteTitle, SiteSubtitle or any tiddler listed in DefaultTiddlers). If rwuired, you can hide any unwanted output from an embedded transclusion by enclosing it within a little bit of CSS, like this: @@display:none;tiddler TiddlerName with: label tooltip@@. Cheers, Ton On Mar 16, 4:42 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Milind I tried to use the ToggleLeftSideBar tiddler but it doesn't work on my tiddlywiki. The tiddler shows up blank after I paste all the code. What do you call the tiddler? The title? It should have the exact same title as the code uses - to work as intended ... ToggleLeftSideBar Cheers Måns Mårtensson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How do I remove the Edit Menu, the Tab Menu (under the Edit Menu), and Backstage?
Hi Liam, The backstage won't be visible when the document is readOnly, i.e., when viewed over http:. When viewed locally, the backstage is visible by default. To make the backstage button less visible try this (tip from Eric Shulman): Place the following into a tiddler tagged with systemConfig: config.messages.backstage.open.text=\xa0 config.glyphs.codes.bentArrowLeft=[\xa0,\xa0]; This replaces the backstage (and arrow) with non-breakable spaces, which don't display as visible text, but are still there to be clicked upon. Cheers, Ton On Feb 16, 9:03 am, Liam liam.holly.erick...@gmail.com wrote: To fix it, simply remove the leading/trailing whitespace from each row of the table, like this: Thanks Eric, you and the other blokes have been a great help. I've got it working now and am really pleased with it. I'm now looking to find where I can turn off BackStage visibility. Where does this reside? I can't find it in the 3 main theme tiddlers, View, Edit and Page. Liam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: does relative path supported?
Hi Larry, See: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/495831cdb81011a8/53598efcb238c44e?lnk=gstq=Khundeen#53598efcb238c44e Cheers, Ton On Jan 30, 10:33 am, larry lazhao...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sorry for a newbie question. I stored a test.html in a subfolder called test. In empty.html, I embed a link to test.html, clicking the link doesn't point to the file. [[test|file:///C:./test/test.html]] It works for absolute path. [[test|file:///C:/MyDoc/TiddlyWiki/test/test.html]] Thanks Larry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki can't see the latest version.
Hi Ian, If you cannot edit the TW to add the version macro ... There was a bookmarklet TiddlyInfo at Saq Imtiaz' site lewcid.org that gave the version of a TW, but I cannot find it anymore at Saq's new location http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/ But, Eric (Tiddlytools) has a bookmarklet Show Tiddlywiki Document info ... http://www.tiddlytools.com/#InstantBookmarklets that gives the version as well. Cheers, Ton On Jan 27, 9:48 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Use the version macro in a tiddler. It'll tell you your actual version. version -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How to save a tiddlywiki file to computer from the web
Hi Randal, May be this [1] is of interest. Cheers, Ton [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/forcecors/ On Dec 21, 12:47 pm, Bauwe Bijl bauweb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hans Are there any examples/documentation/posts that would enable a non-programming-but-technical person to figure out how to do the same? Yes..I have written some guides...and it's made simple to use because of the replication-distribution so non-technical users don't need to deploy the app (or install couchapp). Or did you just base your implementation on this?http://blog.unclephil.net/post/2010/06/01/Exercise%3A-Mixing-2-nice-p... It's a fork of Phils TiddlyCouch yes (not the plugin from link above)...a couchapp. I've added a newer tw version to use SystemSettings and an Atom feed. And created some empty replicate ready TiddlyCouches for distribution. You can: use a couchdb in the cloud use a couchbase local (so you can work off-line and private...sync later) (I usually write a tiddler on one of my local TiddlyCouches and post with curl to anywhere...almost like email)... (still examining whats needed to have a send button per tiddler :) Here is the base (where I write info about TiddlyCouch):http://bijl.iriscouch.com/bijl-ctw/_design/tiddlycouch/_list/tiddlywi... One of the 3 replicate-able TiddlyCouches...functional and empty (no content...howto inside)http://bijl.iriscouch.com/empty-ctw/_design/tiddlycouch/_list/tiddlyw... Here some information on howto install a local couchdb.http://bijl.iriscouch.com/bijl-ctw/_design/tiddlycouch/_list/tiddlywi... This is nice to do:http://bijl.iriscouch.com/bijl-ctw/_design/tiddlycouch/_list/tiddlywi... (free traveling tiddlers...like sending mail) Source:https://github.com/BauweBijl/TiddlyCouch note...it's experimental...(I'm working on several issues) B-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How to save a tiddlywiki file to computer from the web
Hi Randal, Or you can save the source code of your site: Firefox Tools Web developer Page source. Cheers, Ton On Dec 19, 12:41 pm, Bauwe Bijl bauweb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Randal As an alternative you can download a new TiddlyWiki empty.html and save it local (by downloading you get the latest tw-version). From the backstageimport you can load all the tiddlers from the old online document:http://churchofchrist.randal.fastmail.fm/ ...to the new local TiddlyWiki, from where you can start editing the content. When finished you can replace the old TiddlyWiki with the new on the server. Bauwe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Rounded Corners in Opera
Hi all, FYI, Internet Explorer 9 does show rounded corners. Cheers, Ton On Dec 5, 9:33 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Skye, I did find a nice article about CSS genereators [1] some time ago. Some of them also show a compatibility list. If you got your code, you can have a look what it means at mozillas site [2] :) have fun! Mario [1]http://blueblots.com/development/css3-generator/ [2]https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Rounded Corners in Opera
Hi all, Even Firefox (v4 and up) understands border-radius now. See [1] Cheers, Ton [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/border-radius On Dec 5, 11:01 am, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, FYI, Internet Explorer 9 does show rounded corners. Cheers, Ton On Dec 5, 9:33 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Skye, I did find a nice article about CSS genereators [1] some time ago. Some of them also show a compatibility list. If you got your code, you can have a look what it means at mozillas site [2] :) have fun! Mario [1]http://blueblots.com/development/css3-generator/ [2]https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'new tiddler' macro in Backstage?
@Eric, I tried your code in empty TWs v2.6.5 and v2.6.1 using Firefox v8.01 and Firefox 3.6.18 portable under Windows 7. In all 4 cases clicking the new tiddler button in the backstage does NOT open a new tiddler. Cheers, Ton On Nov 27, 1:40 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Ton, for trying to help. Eric read my mind right ;-). Though I didn't knew that macro buttons could be indicated directly as with the example by Jeremy, however, for having it implemented this way I found using a simple tiddler with the macros much more straightforward and easier to adjust. But that already works fine per the instructions of old tiddlywiki.org, and as already implemented in my example TW. By the way, asked years ago how to add the search input box in the backstage bar itself, and the solution offered by Fred had the limitation that YourSearch didn't work there, at that time. It does now! Thanks a lot, Eric. The action function first creates a container (and hides it using CSS). Next, it renders the newTiddler macro into the container. Then, it looks in the container to find the resulting a (link) element produced by the rendered macro, and invokes it's onclick handler to trigger the macro processing. Lastly, it cleans up by removing the container used to render the macro. Wow, wouldn't have though so many tricks would have to be used. If you put the above code into a systemConfig tiddler, you should be all set. Tried it with above dropbox TW, and since it didn't work there - just as before with the adjusted SaveAs sample code it renders the macro button, but no new tiddler actually created - also in an empty 2.6.4 TW. Neither worked. With which TW version it would? (am on XP with FF 8) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 'new tiddler' macro in Backstage?
@Eric
Yes, now it works!
Thanks,
Ton
On Nov 28, 7:06 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
By the way, just found yesterday that RescueStoreArea bookmarklet is
missing from your InstantBookmarklets tiddler. Today I realized you
replaced it with SaveToClipboard bookmarklet, but haven't updated the
InstantBookmarklets to reflect that change yet.
On 28 Nov., 19:00, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
Great!
Now it works like a charm. Just tried to adapt it for permaview and it
seems this can be used for all the other default macros.
Thanks again.
On 28 Nov., 17:41, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried your code in empty TWs v2.6.5 and v2.6.1 using Firefox v8.01
and Firefox 3.6.18 portable under Windows 7.
In all 4 cases clicking the new tiddler button in the backstage does
NOT open a new tiddler.
Sorry about that! I posted the code without testing it myself, and
there was a small error on one line. Change this:
e.getElementsByTagName('a')[0].onclick(ev);
to
e.getElementsByTagName('a')[0].onclick();
(i.e., remove the 'ev' argument from the function call)
I also noticed that when the backstage menu item is invoked, the
TWCore handler displays a message: [object] [object], which is
obviously not very useful. To bypass this spurious message, add this
line at the beginnning of the action function:
clearMessage();
This time, I tested the code and, with the above tweaks, it works as
intended.
enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: 'new tiddler' macro in Backstage?
Hi Wolfgang,
You can get working macro buttons with help of Jeremy Ruston's
BackstageTiddlersPlugin
http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/JeremyRuston/plugins/BackstageTiddlersPlugin.js
The code rewritten to:
//{{{
if(!version.extensions.BackstageTiddlersPlugin) {
version.extensions.BackstageTiddlersPlugin = {installed:true};
config.tasks.macros = {
text: macros,
tooltip: Access the raw tiddlers,
content: newTiddlersaveChanges};
config.backstageTasks.push(macros);
} //# end of 'install only once'
//}}}
gives you a macros entry in the backstage with buttons for new
tiddler and save changes.
Cheers,
Ton
On Nov 26, 4:14 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
Thanks Måns, but none of your samples are answering my question.
As I wrote in the opening post, it is very easy to add any tiddler, or
even the search input box to the backstage area. But no direct macro
button, as for example the one for 'new tiddler'.
See what I'm asking for in this example:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241006/Triptych_2.6.4.html
Just as I wrote, a new button appears, but it doesn't invoke the macro.
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[tw] Re: invalid cookie error
In the past tabs cookie with spaces in the name AAA AAA BBB BBB worked with spaces in the cookie name. Since TW version 2.6.1 (?) and/or Firefox 3.5 (?) I found spaces are not allowed anymore; error invalid cookie. Cheers, Ton On Nov 23, 10:27 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: tabs A title tab A sub-title blah /tab /tabs Deleting the white space in A title solved the issue. I'll check tiddlers with sliders in them to see if they show the same behaviour. However, I had no problem with this so far. The syntax you indicated isn't the TW standard tabs macro. IIRC, that looks like syntax from InlineTabsPlugin (I don't recall the author). If so, then I would suspect that plugin is attempting it's own cookie handling to track the current tab by remembering the tiddler title... and that plugin is probably failing on spaces in titles. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: some styling questions
Hi Wolfgang, In the ATriptych (theme) tiddler I find (section SideBarOptions) search ' s e a r c h '. If you remove search ' s e a r c h ', the search box disappears from the horizontal menu. Cheers, Ton On Nov 5, 7:44 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote: I've been converting the tiddlyspace triptych theme to a standalone TW theme with less dependencies. Thereby I run into some minor styling problems, though not really related to triptych theme itself. The following is occupying me: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241006/Triptych_2.6.2.html # Haven't been able to remove the search button from the horizontal menu at the top, like I was for example withhttp://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com - what could be the obstacle in this case? # I tried to have consistent color changes upon hovering over popup items, for example within the 'Welcome' popup buttons, but have been unable to get those created with ShowPopupPlugin to be consistent to the standard TW popups. Any ideas? # If one toggles from the standard theme shown by default at startup, to the actual triptych theme the displayArea needs a refresh. Then there is a 'Menu' item to the left of the top menu, which opens a prompt to enter a tiddler title for display in the main menu, which requires a refresh of the MainMenu for this change to take place too. Additionally I try to use HideWhenPlugin for top menu items to show/ hide with the different themes, which again would need an additional refresh. Except a manual refresh button no other available auto refresh solutions seem to be working if only a cookie value, but no actual tiddler is changed, like in these three instances. Has anyone come up with a solution to have a auto refresh related to cookie changes? Or any other solution to this problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: some styling questions
Hi Wolfgang,
Sorry I misread your post.
The strange thing is I see the button in your Dropbox example but when
I open the source (Firefox Tools Web Developer Page Source) in
Notepad++ and save it, I do NOT see the button anymore when I open
this saved html file.
Even when I open the temporary file Notepad++ uses when showing the
source, I do not see the button!
Also I get an error message when starting the saved TW or the
temporary one:
Error when including 'addons.html': The file 'addons.html' does not
appear to be a valid TiddlyWiki file
Can it be it is in addons.html?
Anyhow - in a standard TW - setting the label of the button to
{with merge(config.macros.search)} leaves a very small button.
That does not help either.
Cheers,
Ton
On Nov 6, 2:00 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
It's YourSearchPlugin which defies custom definitions.
The strange thing is that the search button isn't even defined in
YourSearchStyleSheet shadowed tiddler. So saving it blank only affects
the YourSearch results popup, custom classes assigned still aren't
applied ?!?
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[tw] Re: some styling questions
Hi Wolfgang,
I found this in the English translation plugin and use it in my Dutch
TWs:
merge(config.macros.search,{
label: search,
prompt: Search this TiddlyWiki,
accessKey: F,
successMsg: %0 tiddlers found matching %1,
failureMsg: No tiddlers found matching %0});
It works with the standard search.
I saw the config.macros.search.label=; in your zz_Config tiddler.
I'am sure this belongs to YourSearchPlugin (changed the label text in
a TW containig YourSearchPlugin).
Cheers,
Ton
On Nov 6, 3:56 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
a solution to have a auto refresh related to
cookie changes?
Or any other solution to this problem?
CookieSaverPlugin .. and AutoRefreshPlugin..
AutoRefreshPlugin fails completely to refresh - even with
the menu tiddler open in the Display area it doesn't refresh anything!!
Had a victory!
AutoRefresh transclusion by Eric placed in the CookieJar does refresh
the menus with cookies changed!
But since CookieSaverPlugin only works with TW v2.6.1 - though just
where Triptych plugins start to work - other tools, like TagsInTabs by
Tobias, wont - so a bid of a ambivalent victory.
Eric, to you have any plans to make CookieSaverPlugin to work with the
later 2.6.x TW versions again?
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[tw] Re: show tables side by side
Hi Julien,
If you add vertical-align:top; to Bauwe's solution you push the
tables to the top.
|vertical-align:top;tiddler Paramètres|vertical-
align:top;tiddler Outputs|
Cheers,
Ton
On Oct 22, 4:56 pm, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote:
Hi
I need to show tables side by side
http://julien23.tiddlyspot.com/#[[Tables%20side%20by%20side]]
I use
{{fourcolumns{
Table 1
Table 2
...
Table 7
}}}
But due to linebreak and depending on table size I have a offset at
the top
How can i fix that ?
NB : I also need to be able to slice my tiddlers
Thanks
Julien
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[tw] Re: previous versions
Hi Marc, See http://www.tiddlywiki.com/archive/ Cheers, Ton On Sep 14, 11:00 pm, Marc Stober marcsto...@gmail.com wrote: is there a repository of old versions of TiddlyWiki out there anywhere? (found this threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/9d7b38... but it's from 2006 and the answer seems to be out of date) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Multiple FireFox setup
Hi Bauwe, For Windows you can use portable versions of Firefox (and other browsers). See http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable also for legacy versions of Firefox. I don't know if portable versions exist for Linux. Cheers, Ton On Sep 2, 11:01 am, Bauwe Bijl bauweb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone... Recent Firefox versions might cause problems with TiddlyWiki...(many post lately here about it) ...for that reason I still use version 3, until solutions are available :) Just in-case... It is possible to install multiple versions of Firefox ... so you can install an older version (if you regret your update) or try-out a newer/beta etc. I created a small tutorial on howto install multiple Firefox versions (performed on linux...the basics are similar for other platforms): http://howtoos.nl/#MultipleFireFoxes Have fun! Bauwe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Multiple FireFox setup
Hi Bauwe, Although you solved it yourself, this might be of interest too (Windows): Multiple Firefox setup, see http://www.chip.de/downloads/Utilu-Mozilla-Firefox-Collection_41121773.html http://utilu.com/ Also for Internet Explorer: http://www.chip.de/downloads/Utilu-IE-Collection_18338510.html Cheers, Ton On Sep 2, 1:06 pm, Bauwe Bijl bauweb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton Yes...lets have all the options/workarounds listed here... I don't know if portable versions exist for Linux. There are some portable solutions around...both osx and linux ...perhaps portable is good for a snap-back to an older Firefox version...not tested here... With the profiles-solution from my first post you can run Firefoxes 3, 5, 6 and 7 simultaneously...and test/debug the versions...(without having to wait until some updated portable release is available) Bauwe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How to expand text area in editor?
Hi Mark, It is one of the configuration options. You can set it in Advanced options (check 'Shown unkown options'). Or set it in an configuration tiddler with config.options.txtMaxEditRows. Cheers, Ton On Aug 16, 10:50 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, Could someone tell me (or remind me) how to expand the number of lines used when editing. I'm using the quickedit capability, if that matters. Thanks! Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Code in a List
Hi Milind,
Try:
# List item
#
{{{
Code Line 1
Code Line 2
}}}
Cheers,
Ton
On Aug 14, 6:49 am, Milind Gupta milind.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
When I am trying to add a Code segment in a list it does't come
out as a proper code segment. What I write is:
# List item
#:{{{
Code Line 1
Code Line 2
}}}
The code lines come out in just 1 line and formatted weirdly. If I just
remove #: before the code block then it works fine.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Milind
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[tw] Re: Code in a List
Hi Milind,
Or better:
Write your code in a separate tiddler e.g. TiddlerCode containing:
{{{
Code Line 1
Code Line 2
}}}
and transclude it in the list:
# List item
#tiddler TiddlerCode
Cheers,
Ton
On Aug 14, 6:49 am, Milind Gupta milind.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
When I am trying to add a Code segment in a list it does't come
out as a proper code segment. What I write is:
# List item
#:{{{
Code Line 1
Code Line 2
}}}
The code lines come out in just 1 line and formatted weirdly. If I just
remove #: before the code block then it works fine.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Milind
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[tw] Re: IE problem
Hi, I tried your TW. It works as you describe in Firefox 4, but in Internet Explorer 9 the PluginManager starts with an error in the Swedish Translation: Error: Expected identifier, string or number. So, I cannot test it further. Regards, Ton On Jun 1, 11:44 am, magev958 magnus.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am having problem with my TiddlyWiki at work. When I try to edit a tiddler in Internet Explorer 8, I get an Permission denied-error. In Firefox 3,6 4.0 it is no problem but I can't install Firefox on all computer at work I'm afraid :) I have deactivated one plugin at a time and it seems that TiddlyLock is making trouble. Could anyone try to download and see if it is the same problem or if it is something going on with the shared server at work giving me a hard time. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/955759/Under_utveckling.html It's in swedish I'm afraid, but at top there is a button labeled redigering that activate the edit mode, then chose any tiddler and click the redigera-button to that tiddler. In Firefox it works and asks for a username but in IE I only get the error message. I put a lot of work in to this so I hate to see it wasted because of microsofts IE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: IE problem
Hi, I have more problems with IE: it renders your TW different than in FF: * Missing LMC logo (shows red cross) * Blue bar over the buttons (Senaste nytt Listvy Support Platina redigering), so I don't see them * No backstage button, so I cannot reach the backstage tools I still get the error in SwedishTranslation. It looks SwedishTranslation is still active. In FF I can reach the backstage and see SwedishTranslation active even after clearing the cache of FF. I tried to switch off SwedishTranslation, but in PluginManager the checkbox in front of plugins is not available. Tried then to remove the systemConfig tag, but cannot reach/edit the SwedishTranslation after clicking the 'redigering' button. Has to do with the fact that after clicking the 'redigering' button, the backstage button is not available anymore. Regards, Ton On Jun 1, 1:59 pm, magev958 magnus.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Strange, nerver encounter that problem. I have now disabled the translation plugin. Please try again. On 1 Juni, 13:04, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I tried your TW. It works as you describe in Firefox 4, but in Internet Explorer 9 the PluginManager starts with an error in the Swedish Translation: Error: Expected identifier, string or number. So, I cannot test it further. Regards, Ton On Jun 1, 11:44 am, magev958 magnus.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am having problem with my TiddlyWiki at work. When I try to edit a tiddler in Internet Explorer 8, I get an Permission denied-error. In Firefox 3,6 4.0 it is no problem but I can't install Firefox on all computer at work I'm afraid :) I have deactivated one plugin at a time and it seems that TiddlyLock is making trouble. Could anyone try to download and see if it is the same problem or if it is something going on with the shared server at work giving me a hard time. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/955759/Under_utveckling.html It's in swedish I'm afraid, but at top there is a button labeled redigering that activate the edit mode, then chose any tiddler and click the redigera-button to that tiddler. In Firefox it works and asks for a username but in IE I only get the error message. I put a lot of work in to this so I hate to see it wasted because of microsofts IE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: How to use embedded images in StyleSheet?
Hi Eric,
Thanks for answering and explaining the base-64 encoded binary image
structure.
But it does not solve my problem.
I made a MTC in Dropbox [1] consisting of
* TW with AttachFilePackage + FileDropPlugin; therein a topmenu
* two images: help.ico and background4.gif in the root and both
embedded
Note: a zipped version of the TW plus both *normal* images can be
found at [2]
With these images in the root it works fine: the topmenu shows the
help icon and has a colored background.
When I delete/remane the images in the root, the help icon stays in
the topmenu but the colored background disappears.
A tiddler Test shows both images with or without the images in the
root, so the embedded images as such work.
Only the CSS background definition does not work with the embedded
image.
Can you have a look at this MTC?
Thanks in advance,
Ton
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/TW262emptyEN.html
[2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC.zip
On May 3, 12:07 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 2, 12:31 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:
With AttachFilePackage + FileDropPlugin from TiddlyTools it is very
easy to produce embedded images.
When trying to use these embedded images I came across a problem.
The *normal* use like:
[img[tooltip|image]]
works perfect, but when I try to use embedded images in the StyleSheet
like:
background: url(background.gif) repeat-x top left;top left;
it does not work.
Attachment tiddlers are divided into sections. The ##data section
contains the actual base-64 encoded binary image, stored as a fully-
qualifed data: URI. You can insert the URI content directly into
the TW StyleSheet by using '[[TiddlerName]]' within the CSS syntax,
like this:
background-image: url('[[NameOfAttachedTiddlerWithImageData]]');
AttachFilePluginFormatters automatically retrieves the appropriate
image reference from the attachment tiddler (either the base-64 data:
URI, or a local file/path, or a remote http: URL), so that it will be
processed as part of the StyleSheet CSS.
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: How to use embedded images in StyleSheet?
Hi Eric,
That is it!
I assumed the square brackets were only needed in case of spaces in
the name of the tiddler; I should have read better.
Thanks,
Ton
On May 3, 10:09 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for answering and explaining the base-64 encoded binary image
structure.
But it does not solve my problem.
Please read my response *carefully*. I provided the EXACT syntax you
need to use:
background-image: url('[[NameOfAttachedTiddlerWithImageData]]');
However, the StyleSheet in your document says:
background-image: url('background4.gif');
which does not has the doubled square brackets around the tiddler
name, and therefore does not refer to an attachment tiddler at all;
instead, it is a normal relative reference to an *external image
file*. You MUST use doubled square brackets AND quotes (i.e.,
'[[...]]') around the attachment tiddler name for it to retrieve and
use the base-64 encoded content.
-e
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[tw] How to use embedded images in StyleSheet?
With AttachFilePackage + FileDropPlugin from TiddlyTools it is very easy to produce embedded images. When trying to use these embedded images I came across a problem. The *normal* use like: [img[tooltip|image]] works perfect, but when I try to use embedded images in the StyleSheet like: background: url(background.gif) repeat-x top left;top left; it does not work. For sure the documentation of AttachFilePluginFormatters only describes the *normal* use: quote This plugin extends the behavior of the following TiddlyWiki core wikify() formatters: * embedded images: [img[tooltip|image]] * linked embedded images: [img[tooltip|image][link]] * external/pretty links: [[label|link]] /quote But, TWs like TWT-Blackicity [1] do use embedded images in the StyleSheet in the way given above. I cannot figure out if this has something to do with the used TreeViewPlugin and/or JqueryTreeview. Or maybe different embedded images. TWT-Blackicity mentiones http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/b5e43fc11f57cebe/4d05050d19661f3d?lnk=gstq=For+reasons+explained+by+Paul+in+this+thread%3A+#4d05050d19661f3d where Wolfgang reports: quote If one does it without the AttachFile package but embeds data:uri's directly, or via transclusion, in the stylesheet - also IE does display the tiny Icons of treeview - and no need for AttachFile package and additional external pics in the first place [2]. /quote To be honest, I do not understand the method mentioned by Wolfgang. Can somebody shed some light on it and tell me how to use embedded images in the StyleSheet? Thanks in advance, Ton [1] http://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/index.html [2] http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/#Ico%20JqueryTreeviewCSS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Tiddler too large
Hi Pyriel,
== Main menu display area sidebar area ==
The layout - width of Main menu, display area (tiddler) and sidebar
area - is defined in StyleSheetLayout
#mainMenu {
position:absolute;
left:0;
width:10em;
text-align:right;
line-height:1.6em;
padding:1.5em 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em;
font-size:1.1em;
}
#displayArea {
margin:1em 17em 0 14em;
}
#sidebar {
position:absolute;
right:3px;
width:16em;
font-size:.9em;}
Default, at the left side is a margin of 14em: the room for the Main
menu and at the right side is a margin of 17em: the room for the
sidebar.
Default, the Main menu itself has a width of 10em, the sidebar area a
width of 16em.
So, if one want to adjust the display area, main menu and/or sidebar
area are affected and need to be adjusted accordingly.
Regards,
Ton
On Apr 21, 12:57 pm, Pyriel frnkc...@googlemail.com wrote:
I have enlarged the MainMenu.
Now dominates the tiddler into the MainMenu.
The tiddler is fixed to the left.
How can I change this setting?
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[tw] Re: Tiddler too large
Hi Pyriel,
I forgot to tell: make all adjustments in StyleSheet to overide the
defaults in StyleSheetLayout.
Regards,
Ton
On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Pyriel,
== Main menu display area sidebar area ==
The layout - width of Main menu, display area (tiddler) and sidebar
area - is defined in StyleSheetLayout
#mainMenu {
position:absolute;
left:0;
width:10em;
text-align:right;
line-height:1.6em;
padding:1.5em 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em;
font-size:1.1em;
}
#displayArea {
margin:1em 17em 0 14em;
}
#sidebar {
position:absolute;
right:3px;
width:16em;
font-size:.9em;}
Default, at the left side is a margin of 14em: the room for the Main
menu and at the right side is a margin of 17em: the room for the
sidebar.
Default, the Main menu itself has a width of 10em, the sidebar area a
width of 16em.
So, if one want to adjust the display area, main menu and/or sidebar
area are affected and need to be adjusted accordingly.
Regards,
Ton
On Apr 21, 12:57 pm, Pyriel frnkc...@googlemail.com wrote:
I have enlarged the MainMenu.
Now dominates the tiddler into the MainMenu.
The tiddler is fixed to the left.
How can I change this setting?
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[tw] Re: NEW: MineralTheme a theme for TiddlyWiki
Hi Bauwe, Looks very good! Thanks, Ton On Apr 21, 2:08 pm, Tobbe torbjorn.tornqv...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome theme Thanks alot //Tobbe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paolo, If you can do that ... that would be nice. Regards, Ton On Apr 20, 3:22 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paulo, Yes, It works and is an easy workaround. Thanks, Ton On Apr 20, 9:02 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: It's done. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 14:30, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo, If you can do that ... that would be nice. Regards, Ton On Apr 20, 3:22 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I should have been more precise. I should have said that it can't be done in a browser independent way. Eric's code is for IE and Firefox only and I prefer to avoid this kind of partial solutions that depend on browsers' manufacturers policies about security. Still, the tiddler list of filenames should be easy to implement. -- Paulo Soares On 20 Abr, 11:45, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paolo Julien, Searching for other solutions, I came across QuoteOfTheDayPlugin from TiddlyTools [1], [2] with the following syntax: QOTD tiddlername norandom noclick inline cookie:cookiename delay If tiddlername does not exist as a tiddler, it searches for a local directory name as can be read from the revisions: 2008.01.16 1.4.0 support using a local image file directory instead of tiddler name for getting list of items. If specified tiddler does not exist in the document, macro attempts to use tiddlername as a local directory name (using either absolute or relative path) and get list of all JPG/GIF/PNG files. And, indeed it does show the photos in the local directory (even, in my case of 1200+ photos). But, it shows all photos in the original size; there is no way to size the images. To me, a combination of both plugins should be ideal. No idea if this is difficult to achieve. Regards, Ton [1]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPlugin [2]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#QuoteOfTheDayPluginInfo On Apr 20, 12:25 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if that can be done at all because, by design, Javascript has strong limitations regarding file system access. A possible solution could be to provide a tiddler containing a list of filenames to be used by the plugin as an alternative to the current simple replacement rule. Would this work for you? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 16:53, julien23 jbouc...@capsule-ea.fr wrote: I am interested too... and my need is closed to Ton's need I wish I could have a photoGallery of all images below tw.html or attached in tw.html Thanks to contribute with any solution... On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi Paolo, Thanks for the explanation; I did not think of that (* as a restricted wildcard). Unfortunately renaming is not an option for me since the photos are also used inside tiddlers, so I have to adjust these tiddlers as well and I'am talking about 1200+ photos! I'am describing the history of a part of Amsterdam (in Dutch), so with text and photos (thumbnails 400 px high) in tiddlers. Most photos can be enlarged by clicking the photo (so I have 1 sets of photos: 1 set of 400 px high photos and 1 set of photos in all kind of dimensions). The TW can be found at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Amsterdam_1822-2009.html As an extra I thought of a slideshow of all available photos. I hope to find another solution of displaying photos in TW: a slideshow of photos in a certain folder at a fixed dimension of e.g. 800 px or - better - fullscreen. An alternative is making a separate slideshow (outside a TW), but that is not my first choice. Anyway, thanks for answering my question about the syntax. Regards, Ton On Apr 19, 3:56 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: That's it. In the plugin, the * is used as a restricted wildcard that is simply replaced be numbers in the range indicated by the 'sequence' parameter. So, in one of your examples, photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the plugin will look for the files 1.jpg to 4.jpg In my example photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 the files are named lisboa-1.jpg to lisboa-4.jpg. This was a simple solution that I've found flexible enough. I suggest you to find some automated way to rename your files. Cheers, -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 12:36, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paulo, My pictures are named: 1881_origineel_toilet.jpg 1900_ca_kaartje_Sigarenfabriek_Bout.jpg 2008_Het_Witte_Huis.jpg 2008_Marnix_van_St_Aldegondeschool_fontein2.jpg All pictures I want to show start with year and a short description is following. Therefor I tried *.jpg. Ton On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, Paulo Soares psoares...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ton, how are your pictures named? Are they named 1.jpg to 4.jpg? -- Paulo Soares On 19 Abr, 11:11, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nobody using the PhotoGalleryPlugin? Or ever tried it? A Minimal Test Case is available athttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/Test_PhotoGalleryPlugin.html Any help appreciated, Ton On Apr 16, 5:54 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2]http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Syntax for PhotoGalleryPlugin
Hi, I am trying to use Paulo Soares' PhotoGalleryPlugin [1] but can't get it to work. The syntax for using it is not clear to me. The example Lisboa [2] uses: photoGallery url:photos/lisboa-*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time: 2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 With my 4 photos in a subfolder Images of the folder wherein TW resides, I tried: photoGallery url:Images/*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 This did not work. With my photos in the same folder as my TW, I tried: photoGallery url:*.jpg sequence:'1-4' height:200 time:2000 labels:SubTitles numbers start:5000 but that did not work either. Since I am not a programmer, looking at the code did not help. I'am using TW v2.6.2, Windows 7, Firefox 4.0 Somebody an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, Ton [1] http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#PhotoGalleryPlugin [2] http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoares/addons.html#Lisboa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Does the Simile-Timeline-Plugin Work and is it still maintained?
Hi Jan Johannpeter, Here Martin's version works in TW v2.6.2 Cheers, Ton On Apr 11, 6:29 pm, whatever kbrezov...@gmail.com wrote: I have some issues with Dawn's example, but Martin's version works on version 2.6.2. w On Apr 11, 5:32 pm, Jan Johannpeter lasjoht...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello I wonder whethter the plugin that is implementing scripts the MIT-Visualisation-Freeware Simile (http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/examples/) in Tiddly Wiki working and whether it is still maintained. I found Martin Buddens wellworking example but it is impossible to integrate it into newer distributions.http://www.martinswiki.com/timeline/ The discussion on this googlegroup seems to stop 2007. Are there any newer experiences?http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/search?hl=engroup=tiddlywi... http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/search?hl=engroup=tiddlywi... I think this could be a great tool for educational und Organizing purposes. Regards Jan Johannpeter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: SearchOptionsPlugin: search results in tiddler
Thanks Eric, Ton On Apr 8, 7:56 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: typo in SearchOptionsPlugin: diplay:block instead of display:block Write list to SearchResults tiddler (option chkSearchListTiddler) Using the latest version (v3.0.9), I could not find this checkbox anymore, but it is *still possible* to write the search results to a tiddler by creating option chkSearchListTiddler somewhere else and checking it. Typo and Configuration option have been fixed. Get the update (v3.0.10) here: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SearchOptionsPlugin http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SearchOptionsPluginInfo -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: SearchOptionsPlugin: search results in tiddler
@Eric By accident - while translating some text in Dutch (making a special *renamed* plugin of it) - I found a typo in SearchOptionsPlugin: diplay:block instead of display:block Since I'am not a programmer, I do not know what the impact is (could not see any difference after correcting it). Regards, Ton On Apr 2, 12:37 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote: @Eric SearchOptionsPlugin v2.8.2 used to write the search results into a tiddler SearchResults. Starting v2.9.0: default is now to show search results at top of story column, similar to FND's SimpleSearchPlugin display, with an option to generate SearchResults tiddler as before. This behavior could be set with a checkbox: Write list to SearchResults tiddler (option chkSearchListTiddler) Using the latest version (v3.0.9), I could not find this checkbox anymore, but it is *still possible* to write the search results to a tiddler by creating option chkSearchListTiddler somewhere else and checking it. Was this option left out deliberately (I don't think so reading the revision history) or has this option just fallen out during revisions? Regards, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Revision history for core TiddlyWiki
Hi Marc, See http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/History Regards, Ton On Apr 5, 3:10 pm, Marc Stober marcsto...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Is there are revision history published somewhere for the core TiddlyWiki itself? Specifically, I'm using TiddlyWiki 2.5.2, what's changed it I upgrade to the latest version from TiddlyWiki.com/upgrade (2.6.2)? Thanks in advance, Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Tiddler with 2 names
Hi, You can transclude the first tddler into the second one. So Prinivil contains the real info and lisinopril contains only: tiddler Prinivil Regards, Ton On Apr 4, 6:15 pm, Faulk28 bob.marie...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to create a TiddlyWiki with a list of medications. Each medicine has a trade name and a generic name. For example, the cholesterol lowering drug Prinivil is also named lisinopril. I want to create a tiddler for each medicine I'm working with. So [[Prinivil]] and [[lisinopril]] would open to the same tiddler. I'm wanting a tiddler with 2 separate names. Is this possible? Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
