Re: [TMIC] NEURONTIN

[Pieter and Heather]

I'm a little bit confused.  
If Neurontin/Gabapentin isn't supposed to help pain except for Epilepsy then 
why do I get relief from my pain when I use it?

Is this a stupid question on my part?

Heather in Calgary 
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  To: tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:40 AM
  Subject: [TMIC] NEURONTIN



  Dear Friend, 

  More bad news from Big Pharma. Internal documents from Pfizer that were 
recently submitted in a lawsuit against that company showed that the 
pharmaceutical manufacturer tried to put a lid on medical studies that did not 
support the use of its epilepsy drug, Neurontin. More than that, it seems that 
the marketing arm of Pfizer even went so far as to delay the publication and 
even ALTER THE CONCLUSIONS OF STUDIES that found that the drug did not work for 
conditions other than epilepsy. 

  Pfizer is accused of doing this to boost sales – and it must've worked. 
Before the release of the generic version of Neurontin in 2004, the drug had 
racked up a whopping $2.7 billion in sales in just one year (2003)! During this 
marketing push, the company alleged that the product was also effective in the 
treatment of pain and migraines. But the clinical studies did not support this 
claim. 

  Naturally, Pfizer has denied these allegations. But the company already 
pleaded guilty and paid $430 million in fines and damages for illegally 
marketing Neurontin back in 2004. So why should we believe they're not to blame 
in this latest case? 

  William Campbell Douglass II, M.D.









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Re: [TMIC] NEURONTIN

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> More bad news from Big Pharma. 

Dear TMers,

This email is true!

Take care

F

[TMIC] NEURONTIN

[ROSEOFRENO]

 
Dear Friend, 

More bad news from Big Pharma.  Internal documents from Pfizer that were 
recently submitted in a lawsuit against  that company showed that the 
pharmaceutical manufacturer tried to put a lid on  medical studies that did not 
support 
the use of its epilepsy drug, Neurontin.  More than that, it seems that the 
marketing arm of Pfizer even went so far as to  delay the publication and even 
ALTER THE CONCLUSIONS OF STUDIES that found that  the drug did not work for 
conditions other than epilepsy. 

Pfizer is  accused of doing this to boost sales – and it must've worked. 
Before the release  of the generic version of Neurontin in 2004, the drug had 
racked up a whopping  $2.7 billion in sales in just one year (2003)! During 
this 
marketing push, the  company alleged that the product was also effective in the 
treatment of pain and  migraines. But the clinical studies did not support 
this claim.  

Naturally, Pfizer has denied these allegations. But the company already  
pleaded guilty and paid $430 million in fines and damages for illegally  
marketing 
Neurontin back in 2004. So why should we believe they're not to blame  in 
this latest case? 

William Campbell Douglass II,  M.D.




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RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy-Solu-Medrol

[Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)]

Hi Jenna - yes it is bad for your body - I took a bone density scan test
& flunked - now I have osteo penia.

 

Bernie



From: Jenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Butcher, Bernard G (NY80);
TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy-Solu-Medrol

 

Jude, 

Most of the time when they give you Solu-Medrol for MS or TM you get
1000mgs a day.  The dose pac's are much lower dose of steroids.  

I have such bad reactions to it that I had to be put in the hospital
each time I needed it.  Instead of doing 1000mg once a day, they have to
spread it out and do 250mg every 6 hours.  It makes me very sick and I
spend 6 days in the hospital.  Then come home for a day or two and then
go back for a day, because my blood sugar is so messed up and has
problems readjusting. Spend a day and get things settled down.  I am
always very sick for two weeks following the Solu-Medrol.  It takes 9
weeks or so before I really start feeling good again.  Durning all this
time I can't drive and spend most of the time in bed.  And am very
grouchy  

Thank goodness I have not had to that for almost 3 years now.  I am so
very blessed and happy about that.  I have a friend here that did the
Solu-Medrol for the first time and was asking me if I ever had a relaps
again would I do the steroids again.  And I told her as bad as it is on
my body, yes I would because it did help so much.  As Frank said in an
e-mail there are some bad permanet  side effects.  It is something you
really need to talk about with your Dr.

 

Jenna

 

 



From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:39:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy

Hello Bernie

 

It has been ages since we have heard from you.  What has been going on
in your life?  You always have such interesting stories to tell and new
ideas you say we ought to try.

 

What is the big idea about Solu-Medrol?  What kind of positive effects
do get from it?  Isn't is comparable to a "dose-pack"?  How bad is the
pain on the fourth day?  I figure that it must be worth it.

 

God Bless,

Jude

 

In a message dated 11/12/2008 2:26:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Diagnosed with TM in 2002, MS in 2008. But I was getting it
before the
MS diagnosis. Last time I got it was 9/08, due next month. The
sick
effect goes away completely in a week, then I feel better.
Overall, I
don't know if it does anything, but it is supposed to reduce
inflammation in my spinal cord and nerve myelin, and therefore
prevent
damage.

Bernie


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:55 PM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); Jenna; TMIC
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy


> Yes, I get this infusion every 3 months, 1G/day for 3 days.
It's
> prednisone. For me, I get a bit sick after the fourth day, but
my
neuro
> says that that is not the norm - just me. After that I feel
pretty
good,
> stronger.

Bernie,

That'sa lot of medication!! 

For what disease do you get that much Solu-Medro??

Have you started to get the side effects?

Good Luck

F







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RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy

[Butcher, Bernard G (NY80)]

Hi Jude - Great to hear from you - hope & pray you are better. I have
posted from time to time, but I don't know if I always get through.

My life (with Mr. MS) now is: get up, go to work (using walker), come
home (totally exhausted) eat, then bed, & do it all again. On weekends,
rest up as much as possible for next week.
The positive effects are that I feel better for a while, a month or two,
then after 3 months get another dose. I also do it because my neuro
recommends it (?) I think it's worth it. Plus up until now, I get it
done at home. 

What's a "dose pack"?

After the fourth day, I have no pain really, just ill, like, flu-ish - I
take two naps per day for two or three days, then I begin to come back
to "normal"

 

Bernie



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:39 AM
To: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy

 

Hello Bernie

 

It has been ages since we have heard from you.  What has been going on
in your life?  You always have such interesting stories to tell and new
ideas you say we ought to try.

 

What is the big idea about Solu-Medrol?  What kind of positive effects
do get from it?  Isn't is comparable to a "dose-pack"?  How bad is the
pain on the fourth day?  I figure that it must be worth it.

 

God Bless,

Jude

 

In a message dated 11/12/2008 2:26:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Diagnosed with TM in 2002, MS in 2008. But I was getting it
before the
MS diagnosis. Last time I got it was 9/08, due next month. The
sick
effect goes away completely in a week, then I feel better.
Overall, I
don't know if it does anything, but it is supposed to reduce
inflammation in my spinal cord and nerve myelin, and therefore
prevent
damage.

Bernie


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:55 PM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); Jenna; TMIC
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy


> Yes, I get this infusion every 3 months, 1G/day for 3 days.
It's
> prednisone. For me, I get a bit sick after the fourth day, but
my
neuro
> says that that is not the norm - just me. After that I feel
pretty
good,
> stronger.

Bernie,

That'sa lot of medication!! 

For what disease do you get that much Solu-Medro??

Have you started to get the side effects?

Good Luck

F







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Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy-Solu-Medrol

[Jenna]

Jude, 

Most of the time when they give you Solu-Medrol for MS or TM you get 1000mgs a 
day.  The dose pac's are much lower dose of steroids.  

I have such bad reactions to it that I had to be put in the hospital each time 
I needed it.  Instead of doing 1000mg once a day, they have to spread it out 
and do 250mg every 6 hours.  It makes me very sick and I spend 6 days in the 
hospital.  Then come home for a day or two and then go back for a day, because 
my blood sugar is so messed up and has problems readjusting. Spend a day and 
get things settled down.  I am always very sick for two weeks following the 
Solu-Medrol.  It takes 9 weeks or so before I really start feeling good again.  
Durning all this time I can't drive and spend most of the time in bed.  And am 
very grouchy

Thank goodness I have not had to that for almost 3 years now.  I am so very 
blessed and happy about that.  I have a friend here that did the Solu-Medrol 
for the first time and was asking me if I ever had a relaps again would I do 
the steroids again.  And I told her as bad as it is on my body, yes I would 
because it did help so much.  As Frank said in an e-mail there are some bad 
permanet  side effects.  It is something you really need to talk about with 
your Dr.

 Jenna





From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:39:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy

AOL Email 
Hello Bernie
 
It has been ages since we have  heard from you.  What has been going on in your 
life?  You  always have such interesting stories to tell and new ideas you say 
we  ought to try.
 
What is the big idea about  Solu-Medrol?  What kind of positive effects do get 
from it?   Isn't is comparable to a "dose-pack"?  How bad is the pain on the  
fourth day?  I figure that it must be worth it.
 
God Bless,
Jude
 
In a message dated 11/12/2008 2:26:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Diagnosed with TM in 2002, MS in 2008. But I was getting it  before the
MS diagnosis. Last time I got it was 9/08, due next month.  The sick
effect goes away completely in a week, then I feel better.  Overall, I
don't know if it does anything, but it is supposed to  reduce
inflammation in my spinal cord and nerve myelin, and therefore  prevent
damage.

Bernie


-Original  Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008  1:55 PM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); Jenna;  TMIC
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy


> Yes,  I get this infusion every 3 months, 1G/day for 3 days. It's
>  prednisone. For me, I get a bit sick after the fourth day, but  my
neuro
> says that that is not the norm - just me. After that  I feel pretty
good,
> stronger.

Bernie,

That'sa  lot of medication!! 

For what disease do you get that much  Solu-Medro??

Have you started to get the side  effects?

Good  Luck

F
 





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Re: [TMIC] Question from Randy

[Heyjude48458]

 
 
Hello Bernie
 
It has been ages since we have  heard from you.  What has been going on in 
your life?  You  always have such interesting stories to tell and new ideas you 
say we  ought to try.
 
What is the big idea about  Solu-Medrol?  What kind of positive effects do 
get from it?   Isn't is comparable to a "dose-pack"?  How bad is the pain on 
the 
 fourth day?  I figure that it must be worth it.
 
God Bless,
Jude
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2008 2:26:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Diagnosed with TM in 2002, MS in 2008. But I was getting it  before the
MS diagnosis. Last time I got it was 9/08, due next month.  The sick
effect goes away completely in a week, then I feel better.  Overall, I
don't know if it does anything, but it is supposed to  reduce
inflammation in my spinal cord and nerve myelin, and therefore  prevent
damage.

Bernie


-Original  Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008  1:55 PM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); Jenna;  TMIC
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] Question from Randy


> Yes,  I get this infusion every 3 months, 1G/day for 3 days. It's
>  prednisone. For me, I get a bit sick after the fourth day, but  my
neuro
> says that that is not the norm - just me. After that  I feel pretty
good,
> stronger.

Bernie,

That'sa  lot of medication!! 

For what disease do you get that much  Solu-Medro??

Have you started to get the side  effects?

Good  Luck

F




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