Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
Emails are often misunderstood. It's just not as easy to get the point that was trying to get across sometimes. Even someone with really good reading or writing skills gets misunderstood sometimes by someone with the same. Then there are some, like me, who really don't read all of the words sometimes, and need to go over the message a time or two or three. And, I still screw things up. It would be great if we could just communicate in person, or on the phone and know what everyone else is thinking like we do on the TMIC, but it's not possible, so here we are. We just do what we can to get through it. We should have figured out by now that life is not perfect, so don't expect perfection from each other. Especially when there is pain and medication involved. Hugs, Barbara A -Original Message- From: jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com To: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! F7EE749F-4977-491B-98D6-7F464181D5FA 4.00 Letter Letter\Delicate_Etchings.imf Papers Stationery Delicate Etchings © CatWoman VHJhZGVNYXJrTGluaywyOCxtYWlsdG86Q2F0LVdvbWVuQHByb2RpZ3kubmV0LElNQkwxLDQ2LIFJgUk4nSwsnYnFOE2JxZ2dTYnFhTBNxcEomU2dOImZiYXBhSiNOCRJgUmBSYEsSU1CTDIsMCwsSU1CTDMsMCws cid:6C32BEC9-49D3-4A14-911A-B4ADB33C1F1B repeat #fff7f7 left top X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD ; Gosh, and it's not even a full moon!!! OK.. I always tell my kids that you cannot change one second of what has already happened...just learn fr om it, go forward and try to be a better person than you were the day before. Some of you have heard me say this soHOW ABOUT STARTING OVER FROM THIS MOMENT ON We're only human. We have each other in this TM thing and that is a very special thing to have. Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Grace M. Date: 06/28/09 21:04:19 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! Todd did not intentionally do anything wrong. He wrote an extremely supportive post to Naomi. He in no way disparaged this list, or anyone on it. I've known Todd since I first became ill and he has never been ANYTHING but good to me, and I have never seen him post anything negative to anyone on this list site. I also know that he would help anyone here that he could, if he had the means to do so. Sadly, not all of us have the means to do so, myself included. For the life of me I do not understand what has been going on here lately. Grace
Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
Beautifully put!! Jenna From: balmat...@aol.com balmat...@aol.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:00:32 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! Emails are often misunderstood. It's just not as easy to get the point that was trying to get across sometimes. Even someone with really good reading or writing skills gets misunderstood sometimes by someone with the same. Then there are some, like me, who really don't read all of the words sometimes, and need to go over the message a time or two or three. And, I still screw things up. It would be great if we could just communicate in person, or on the phone and know what everyone else is thinking like we do on the TMIC, but it's not possible, so here we are. We just do what we can to get through it. We should have figured out by now that life is not perfect, so don't expect perfection from each other. Especially when there is pain and medication involved. Hugs, Barbara A -Original Message- From: jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com To: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! F7EE749F-4977-491B-98D6-7F464181D5FA 4.00 Letter Letter\Delicate_Etchings.imf Papers Stationery Delicate Etchings © CatWoman VHJhZGVNYXJrTGluaywyOCxtYWlsdG86Q2F0LVdvbWVuQHByb2RpZ3kubmV0LElNQkwxLDQ2LIFJgUk4nSwsnYnFOE2JxZ2dTYnFhTBNxcEomU2dOImZiYXBhSiNOCRJgUmBSYEsSU1CTDIsMCwsSU1CTDMsMCws cid:6C32BEC9-49D3-4A14-911A-B4ADB33C1F1B repeat #fff7f7 left top X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD ; Gosh, and it's not even a full moon!!! OK.. I always tell my kids that you cannot change one second of what has already happened...just learn from it, go forward and try to be a better person than you were the day before. Some of you have heard me say this soHOW ABOUT STARTING OVER FROM THIS MOMENT ON We're only human. We have each other in this TM thing and that is a very special thing to have. Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Grace M. Date: 06/28/09 21:04:19 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! 0A Todd did not intentionally do anything wrong. He wrote an extremely supportive post to Naomi. He in no way disparaged this list, or anyone on it. I've known Todd since I first became ill and he has never been ANYTHING but good to me, and I have never seen him post anything negative to anyone on this list site. I also know that he would help anyone here that he could, if he had the means to do so. Sadly, not all of us have the means to do so, myself included. For the life of me I do not understand what has been going on here lately. Grace An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
[TMIC] Every now and then!
I refuse to even discuss the petty arguments and disagreements that seem to happens several times a year. To discuss them actually provides legitimacy to the discussion. Stop being so quick to argue and remember the purpose of the list. No one needs to take sidesif what is written does not apply or offers words you do not care for...just delete it! Do you ever think of how a new visitor to the site reacts to bickeringmy guess is it turns them off...and that is a tragedy! If one member has a problem with what someone else says. why not try to just contact that person directly and not to the group as a whole. Remember we are all in this together and inevitably when these things occur the next thing that happens is we see the word unsubscribe. When one is in 24/7 pain and discomfort it is easy to pick a fight or disagreement...anything at all to avoid what is really the problem. TM New topic: Exercise Exercisewhen is enough enough? I tend to exercise in spurtsI am either following a regular routine or giving into my pain and discomfort and doing nothing at all! I am not very good at knowing when I am overdoing it and therefore make the same mistakes over and over. After pretty much doing nothing for the past 6 months I am now back to swimming 3-4 times per week and I have never felt worse. My legs feel weighed down and I am walking far worse than normal. The level of discomfort and Pain are also off my charts. So what do I doprobably stop exercising and see if my legs feel betterthat being said we have had horribly huimid,wet weather in the New York area the entire month of June...so I am not certain if the over exercising or the weather is making the TM flare up. Even after 12 years I have not really learned to listen to my bodypart of this is due to the fact that I am not in discomfort while exercisingbut hours later it is as if my body is just realizing I over did it and I have to pay the price. My main exercise is swimming (and a little treadmill)for the first 10 years of TM I had far fewer breaks from the exercise routine ...and then all of a sudden when I hit 60 I kinda gave up and threw in the towelI kinda just quit. I felt hopeless and helpless...therefore I just started back on my routine...and so far the pain far outweighs the gain. I will attempt to introduce moderation to my exercise and try to remember I am closing in on 62 so I would guess non related TM problems are beginning to surface such as arthritis. I still have a lot on my plate...I drive 80 miles a day to work and sometimes I am just so exhausted that the thought of a workout is something I cannot handle. That being said I do find that when I let myself get out of shape and gain addl. Weight I always feel worse...and I can assure you that this is not a vanity issue. I would appreciate hearing from the group as to what exercises works for them...how do you know when you are over doing it? I am seeing Dr. Kerr on Weds and will pose the question to him...I have a feeling he will stress moderation and developing a routine that will keep my muscles from atrophying while a t the same time not exhausting me to the point of pain. OK...enough for now...let's get back on topic! Rob in New Jersey
Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
Way to go, Barbara... Well said. We'll get thru all of this just like we get thru our other challenges in life. This is a small one compared to some right?? Just keep supporting and loving each other and that will take care of the rough stuff. Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: balmat...@aol.com Date: 6/29/2009 2:01:17 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! Emails are often misunderstood. It's just not as easy to get the point that was trying to get across sometimes. Even someone with really good reading or writing skills gets misunderstood sometimes by someone with the same. Then there are some, like me, who really don't read all of the words sometimes, and need to go over the message a time or two or three. And, I still screw things up. It would be great if we could just communicate in person, or on the phone and know what everyone else is thinking like we do on the TMIC, but it's not possible, so here we are. We just do what we can to get through it. We should have figured out by now that life is not perfect, so don't expect perfection from each other. Especially when there is pain and medication involved. Hugs, Barbara A -Original Message- From: jrushton jrush...@columbiaenergyllc.com To: Grace M. grace...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! F7EE749F-4977-491B-98D6-7F464181D5FA 4.00 Letter Letter\Delicate_Etchings.imf Papers Stationery Delicate Etchings © CatWoman VHJhZGVNYXJrTGluaywyOCxtYWlsdG86Q2F0LVdvbWVuQHByb2RpZ3kubmV0LElNQkwxLDQ2LIFJgUk4nSwsnYnFOE2JxZ2dTYnFhTBNxcEomU2dOImZiYXBhSiNOCRJgUmBSYEsSU1CTDIsMCwsSU1CTDMsMCws cid:6C32BEC9-49D3-4A14-911A-B4ADB33C1F1B repeat #fff7f7 left top X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD ; 01_tile.jpg01_side.gif
Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
Wow, did I just fall off the turnip truck, maybe brain freeze, or possibly fibro fog! What is going on? We are a family. Just like all families we don't always agree, we have differences.I hope we can start to find what we all have in common with each other. I have been here for about 6 years. There was an argument going on then . but in the fast month that is all that is going on.Thoughts and Prays,CatherineFrom: Grace M. grace...@gmail.comTo: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:04:08 PMSubject: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! Todd did not intentionally doanything wrong. He wrote an extremely supportive post to Naomi. He in no way disparaged this list, or anyone on it. I've known Todd since I first became ill and he has never beenANYTHING butgood to me, and I have never seen him post anything negative toanyone on this list site. I also know that he would help anyone here that he could, if he had the means to do so. Sadly, not all of us have the means to do so, myself included. For the life of me I do not understand what has been going on here lately. Grace
[TMIC] Facebook
I am also on Facebook and am now addicted to Farm Town and Farm Ville. My name on Facebook is Kathleen Moorhead Blaschko. Please feel free to add me as a friend. I also go into YoVille quite often. I love facebook as a way to keep a daily update on friends and family. I also am addicted to The Sims, Sims 2 and am thinking of getting into Sims 3. Thanks Kathy
Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page
LOL LOL yeah me too I always am telling my Husband just a minute!! I will be there in just 1 more minute!. Debi Jim, You have me laughing so hard now. :-) I'm the same way, though with me it s Mahjongg and the strategy games. If your Mom ends up being too late with dinner, just call me and I'll send over a Pizza. You're a peach! Gracie On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com wrote: It could be... I've been on Facebook for j years and haven't used it as much as I have the last 2 weeks since starting Farm Town. Good thing I finished putting the latest TMA newsletter online before I got into Farm Town, I would have really had some time management problems. I got my mom on it too, which might have been a mistake. When harvest time happens around our diner time, guess which has been coming first? Yup, we have been eating later every night. :-) At 07:01 PM 6/26/2009, Cindy McLeroy wrote:  Now when folks wonder why the list is slow, they should go to facebook and check out Farm Town. That must be where everyone disappears sometimes. - Original Message - From: bradebi To: Akua ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Jim Lubin Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page I am too!!!...I love Farm Town!.I am taking a break... .I am into building my Zoo right now..it is addicting too!. Debi  ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin Date: 6/25/2009 7:37:10 PM To: Akua; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page there are several TM-ADEM-NMO groups on Facebook, most are linked here http://www.myelitis.org/support.htm Jim (who has become addicted to the Farm Town game on Facebook) At 06:43 PM 6/24/2009, Akua wrote: I'm digging Facebook--- what about creating a fan page. -- Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Spiral_notebook.jpg
RE: [TMIC] Facebook Page
I have the Farmtown and so do my 3 children so we end up trying to beat each other on levels and coins. We do help each other harvest so we all end up making out better than if we were to hire someone that we don't know to harvest. I get up around 6:30 every morning and play until around 7:30 on Farmtown. It is so addicting!! What level are you guys on? Tracey L. Black Certified Insurance Service Representative Hockley O'Donnell Insurance Agency Phone- 717-334-6741, x 29 Fax-717-334-3414 My hours: 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. Thank you for providing information to us. Please be aware that no coverage is bound and no change to your insurance program is confirmed until verified by a licensed agent during regular business hours. If you do not hear from us within 1 business day, please re-contact us in case your information has not been retained From: bradebi [mailto:brad...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:17 PM To: Jim Lubin; Grace M. Cc: Cindy McLeroy; Akua; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page LOL LOL yeah me too I always am telling my Husband just a minute!! I will be there in just 1 more minute!. Debi Jim, You have me laughing so hard now. :-) I'm the same way, though with me it's Mahjongg and the strategy games. If your Mom ends up being too late with dinner, just call me and I'll send over a Pizza. You're a peach! Gracie On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com wrote: It could be... I've been on Facebook for j years and haven't used it as much as I have the last 2 weeks since starting Farm Town. Good thing I finished putting the latest TMA newsletter online before I got into Farm Town, I would have really had some time management problems. I got my mom on it too, which might have been a mistake. When harvest time happens around our diner time, guess which has been coming first? Yup, we have been eating later every night. :-) At 07:01 PM 6/26/2009, Cindy McLeroy wrote:  Now when folks wonder why the list is slow, they should go to facebook and check out Farm Town. That must be where everyone disappears sometimes. - Original Message - From: bradebi mailto:brad...@gmail.com To: Akua mailto:a...@artfarm.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Jim Lubin mailto:jlu...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page I am too!!!...I love Farm Town!.I am taking a break... .I am into building my Zoo right now..it is addicting too!. Debi  ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin mailto:jlu...@eskimo.com Date: 6/25/2009 7:37:10 PM To: Akua mailto:a...@artfarm.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page there are several TM-ADEM-NMO groups on Facebook, most are linked here http://www.myelitis.org/support.htm Jim (who has become addicted to the Farm Town game on Facebook) At 06:43 PM 6/24/2009, Akua wrote: I'm digging Facebook--- what about creating a fan page. -- Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org http://www.makoa.org/ Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org http://www.makoa.org/ image001.jpg
Re: [TMIC] Facebook
Wow Kathy I am right here just click the link! http://www.facebook.com/debi.woodruffwall Debi ---Original Message--- From: LadyOwl1961 Date: 6/29/2009 11:52:13 AM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Facebook I am also on Facebook and am now addicted to Farm Town and Farm Ville. My name on Facebook is Kathleen Moorhead Blaschko. Please feel free to add me as a friend. I also go into YoVille quite often. I love facebook as a way to keep a daily update on friends and family. I also am addicted to The Sims, Sims 2 and am thinking of getting into Sims 3. Thanks Kathy
[TMIC] Fwd: You can help find the cure for paralysis
check out the video from Scott Chesney. From: peter.wilderot...@christopherreeve.org To: aca...@aol.com Sent: 6/29/2009 7:16:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: You can help find the cure for paralysis _Click to view as a web page._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=9oLCLONtHcLHJ0Js=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=8nJALLMpFcJLI2Ks=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=bgLGIUNBLfISKcJs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) Watch Scott Chesney’s video. Dear Rosalie, I am going to live my life to the fullest. This is the mantra of Scott Chesney. Scott woke up one morning at the age of 15, paralyzed from a sudden spinal stroke. Today he is a successful business owner, husband, father, and, I am proud to say, a Reeve Foundation Ambassador. _Take a moment to watch the video he made for you about who he wants you to see when you look at him in his wheelchair._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=gvKQK9PVJlIULiKs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) I've been waking up for the last 24 years, everyday, to a waiting wheelchair, he told me. And I have the power to choose. I choose to transfer into that wheelchair and begin my day. Courageous people living with paralysis, like Scott, are why we launched the _Campaign to Cure Paralysis_ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=9eLCLONtHeLHJYJs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) . Our goal is to bring people like you together with the unified purpose of finding cures for the 5.6 million people living with paralysis. I believe cures are within our reach. There have been many promising developments in just the last 6 months. The Foundation and our cause have been in the forefront of the news: * Recalling the contributions of both Christopher and Dana, President Obama lifted restrictions on federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research. * Matthew Reeve was in the room at the White House as the President quoted his father at the signing of the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act -- promoting collaborative research, rehabilitation and quality of life initiatives for millions of Americans living with paralysis and spinal cord injuries. * The release of the results from our paralysis population survey show nearly 1 in 50 people in the U.S. are living with paralysis – nearly 33% more people than previously reported -- with over 1.2 million people living with a spinal cord injury. And the Reeve Foundation is just starting its first clinical trial for a drug called riluzole -- a neuroprotective agent that may limit the damage in the early hours after a spinal cord injury. _Please help us have the resources to keep the momentum going by making your tax-deductible gift today._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=chJILXOFJhKOL8Is=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) If you ask Scott if he wants to walk again, he'll say, Absolutely! If you ask him if he has to walk again he'll say, No. I know my life is far greater than the use of my legs. For people living with paralysis it is their quality of life that is so important. Being able to be the best fathers and mothers they can be ... being the best husbands and wives ... being the best provider ... the best friend. All of these titles we hold in life still apply to someone living with paralysis. The Foundation is dedicated to helping people live their lives to the fullest. And really, this is what the Reeve Foundation is all about -- Today's Care. Tomorrow's Cure. Finding treatments and cures that allow people like Scott to regain function and pursue their dreams. I hope I can count on you to do all you can to help find cures and fulfill the goal Christopher Reeve set for the Foundation. _Please make your gift of any size today._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=fkLOI6PRIkJVJiLs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) _Forward to a friend._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=gvKQK9PVJkIULjKs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) Yours truly, Peter T. Wilderotter President and CEO PS: _Take a moment to watch Reeve Foundation Ambassador Scott Chesney's video._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=9oICJOMtGeIKL1Js=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) You can't help but be inspired by his courage and spirit. _Then help us find cures and treatments for the 5.6 million people living with paralysis by making your tax-deductible gift today._ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=crKIJXOFIhLRIbIs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=fkIOK6PRLkKYKlLs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) _Remove yourself from this mailing_ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=8dJALLMpFgJLIYKs=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) . _Remove yourself from all mailings from Christopher Dana Reeve Foundation_ (http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=bqLGIUNBLjISK8Js=ilLYJ9MTJiKRK7NTJuGm=koIMJPMwFlLYH) . **It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place
Re: [TMIC] Every now and then!
Every now and then!Robert, I did water aerobics for about 5 years before TM hit. I started it because of arthritis in my back. Exercise done in water should not make you sore unless you are over doing it. You really need to think hard about moderation when you first begin and add more slowly.Sure hope it helps you. I would give my eye teeth to get back in the water, but am not ready yet. Someday soon I hope.Good luck. - Original Message - From: Robert Pall To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [TMIC] Every now and then! I refuse to even discuss the petty arguments and disagreements that seem to happens several times a year. To discuss them actually provides legitimacy to the discussion. Stop being so quick to argue and remember the purpose of the list. No one needs to take sides..if what is written does not apply or offers words you do not care for.just delete it! Do you ever think of how a new visitor to the site reacts to bickering..my guess is it turns them off.and that is a tragedy! If one member has a problem with what someone else says. why not try to just contact that person directly and not to the group as a whole. Remember we are all in this together and inevitably when these things occur the next thing that happens is we see the word unsubscribe. When one is in 24/7 pain and discomfort it is easy to pick a fight or disagreement.anything at all to avoid what is really the problem. TM New topic: Exercise Exercise..when is enough enough? I tend to exercise in spurts..I am either following a regular routine or giving into my pain and discomfort and doing nothing at all! I am not very good at knowing when I am overdoing it and therefore make the same mistakes over and over. After pretty much doing nothing for the past 6 months I am now back to swimming 3-4 times per week and I have never felt worse. My legs feel weighed down and I am walking far worse than normal. The level of discomfort and Pain are also off my charts. So what do I do..probably stop exercising and see if my legs feel better..that being said we have had horribly huimid,wet weather in the New York area the entire month of June.so I am not certain if the over exercising or the weather is making the TM flare up. Even after 12 years I have not really learned to listen to my body..part of this is due to the fact that I am not in discomfort while exercising..but hours later it is as if my body is just realizing I over did it and I have to pay the price. My main exercise is swimming (and a little treadmill)..for the first 10 years of TM I had far fewer breaks from the exercise routine .and then all of a sudden when I hit 60 I kinda gave up and threw in the towel..I kinda just quit. I felt hopeless and helpless.therefore I just started back on my routine.and so far the pain far outweighs the gain. I will attempt to introduce moderation to my exercise and try to remember I am closing in on 62 so I would guess non related TM problems are beginning to surface such as arthritis. I still have a lot on my plate.I drive 80 miles a day to work and sometimes I am just so exhausted that the thought of a workout is something I cannot handle. That being said I do find that when I let myself get out of shape and gain addl. Weight I always feel worse.and I can assure you that this is not a vanity issue. I would appreciate hearing from the group as to what exercises works for them.how do you know when you are over doing it? I am seeing Dr. Kerr on Weds and will pose the question to him.I have a feeling he will stress moderation and developing a routine that will keep my muscles from atrophying while a t the same time not exhausting me to the point of pain. OK.enough for now.let's get back on topic! Rob in New Jersey