Re: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread Akua

Jeron,

I envy you the luxury of choosing to be alone. like I envied the rich 
kids who mimicked the way i put
together clothes  because I was poor. I'm alone and don't want to be, 
didn't choose to be, TM isolates me. It seems you can walk, I can't. 
So i suffer beyond insult to injury-- the pain and no way to shop, to 
go anywhere. Still i pray and persevere. Maybe my municipality will 
wake and get paratransit for the over 20% of the county that is 
disabled. Maybe some bright young person will develop the stem cell 
cure,  maybe in the same mysterious way this trail arrived, it will 
be gone. I hear you and i feel your despair and anger and 
frustration, because it is living hell. But   --- the great old 
but---  is that
the mind  and heart persist, breath still comes easily and unaided 
and there is  HOPE.

Akua

--



[TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???

2010-05-22 Thread Barbara Alma

Janet, I have to tell you that for so many years, and I've had TM for 12 years, 
so I cannot remember exactly how many, I honestly thought that I may just wake 
up one morning and it could be all gone.  It was a very nice thought, but never 
happened.  It really felt like I was living in a bad dream for so long, so 
thought I'd wake up and I would be out of it.  Talk about not living in 
reality?  

Jeron, I believe that you have a right to decide how you live your life, with 
or without medications.  I know that the brain fuzziness is no fun, but I enjoy 
the pain relief that it gives me.  Without it, I have absolutely no energy and 
I am a mental and physical wreck.  I personally cannot live without my family 
support, but you've decided the way you want to handle your life, which is 
between you and your family.  I couldn't handle it, although I do admit to 
hiding out in my room when I'm having a bad episode of spasms so nobody has to 
see me like that.  Still, they know I'm in there and can check on me.  I hope 
that you will be able to find a balance between what you want to do for 
yourself and how to include your family in your life as well.   

Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca
To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive



What I am really wondering is if one ever really gets to the point of accepting 
this thing?  It has almost been six years (August) and daily I have to decide 
whether to get up and work with it, fight it, or give into it.  
 
Most of the time I fight it.  Working with it would make my life easier I 
suppose, but darn it, I am with Jeron .  It has taken a lot away.
 
One of the things that I have discovered after fighting it so hard for five 
years – to get back to where I used to be before being struck with TM – was 
that either way, TM or no TM – I could not regain my former self.  It would be 
like suddenly becoming 30 again.  It isn’t going to be.  I would have aged 5 
years whether I had TM or not.  That made it much easier for me to realize that 
life is going to go on, I am going to grow older, and with age comes 
limitations, TM or not.  That might not make sense to others, but it sure 
helped me quit fighting so hard, and to accept the down days.
 
It also enabled me to lift up my head, look around, and realize that my friends 
and acquaintances all have their own struggles with growing older, they are 
just not as visible as mine.  Most of them deal with pain every day, in one way 
or another, just as a matter of course of growing older, and what that in 
itself can do to the body.
 
But, Jeron, I do totally get where you are coming from.  And I wish I could go 
scuba diving today too – especially since there is a heavy snowfall warning in 
effect for my area.  On May Long weekend no less!
 
Janet



Re: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread Barbara H.
Hi Jeron,

Thanks for the further insight. Though you don't owe any of us an
explanation, this does help us understand more. I have known of people who
did push loved ones away and close up within themselves, and that's what I
thought you were doing from your first note, thus my response.

And I don't see it as a can of worms. For the most part it has been a great
discussion, I've enjoyed reading the responses and the way TMers step up to
support each other. There is no handbook and no one right way to deal with
TM -- that varies with each of us according to how we're affected physically
as well as personality type, family support, etc. Personally, I would never
have survived without faith in God and His Word to help me each day. But
reading all these different responses helps each of us to gain more insight
and encouragement in dealing with TM on our own terms.

I have to admit that diving and ziplining and such are not things that would
appeal to me even without TM :-) But I am glad you're having the opportunity
to experience them. And I do understand the need to challenge ourselves. The
challenges I choose are different, but if I don't keep some challenges in
front of me I would be curled up in a little ball inside my house and never
move.

In the early days of TM, any excursion or activity beyond just the function
of daily living would leave me exhausted and with a flare-up of symptoms the
next day. But, as you said, it is worth it, and for me, though it still
happens, it is less direct. In fact, sometimes I forget the correlation. I
am coming up on my fifteenth anniversary with TM in September. Last
weekend I was in charge of our church's annual ladies' luncheon. In the
preceding weeks of preparation, I almost always tell myself, I am NEVER
doing this again. Am I crazy, or what? But it is a joy to see it all come
together. Then this week I was having some major back pain and elimination
issues and could not sit still for very long without falling asleep, and I
was wondering what in the world was going on. Then I had a Duh! smack
myself upside the head moment of realization that all that pressure and
stress, even though it was a good kind of stress, was exacting its payback
this week, so then I could just relax and go with it and give myself
permission to sleep a little more and not hope for a very productive week
this week.

Anyway -- I wish you all the best.

Barbara H.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, j ra rumc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hey everybody,
 When I started this post, I sure as hell wasn't expecting the can of worms
 that I opened up! I got what you all said about me being selfish and trying
 to go it alonepushing my wife away and all that. When I came to the
 Caribbean it was for two reasons. 1. I needed to learn to deal with this
 thing of ours called TM, but away from everyone who knows me. I did this
 because I wanted to see myself in the mirror again and not the person that
 everyone feels sorry for because I have TM. So I moved here for a litttle
 while just to get some me time. I am not pushing my loved ones away, like
 most of you thought. Truth be told, my wife fully understands why I wanted
 to be alone. 2. I am trying to relive my past. I am trying to push myself to
 do the things I loved to do even though I have TM. I know there is no way
 anyone of my loved ones are approving of this and are all worried about me
 going off into the deep blue sea or jumping out of a plane like I used to,
 so it's better if I do it when they can't see me do it and all be worried.
 So today was my first dive in years and for the first time since I had TM,
 I forgot all about it. My legs didn't hurt, my back was like brand new and
 it was amazing. Of course I got a little help from a 6 knot current to do
 most of the work under water for me (it's called a drift dive), but it was
 amazing. I did it! Adrenaline pumped through me for 32 amazing minutes and I
 felt alive again. I'm in all craploads of pain right now, but it was so
 worth it.
 Next stop, zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique. I know I'm
 in for some serious pain, but I think I'm slowly remembering the good days.
 My goal is to remember those days and replace the bad days. I called my wife
 and told her I loved her and she said she was proud of me for taking the
 step to regaining some control of my life.
 So, now.It feels great to be in painthis time it was worth it.
 Thanks everyone for all the emails and all the support. I love you guys
 very muchyou are my family!
 Jeron

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Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???

2010-05-22 Thread Janice Nichols
Janet, you are right on the money.  I, too, used to think is this really 
happening? Life is not the same, but it is life and I am surrounded with a 
great family
and great friends.  I am adjusting to the fact that we will not be doing 
any more beach vacations.Walking on sand would be too difficult and 
exhausting.  But,
we are thinking of other places that we can go. It took 3 years to get to 
where I could travel and I love it, but I have to be picky about what we do.
I hate this more than I can say, but I do still have a life and I still do 
things - dinner with friends, movies, etc.   Pain level is not so bad right 
now, but there is no
warning when the legs will give out on me.  Life is truly full of surprises.

Love you all,
Janice



From: Barbara Alma 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:05 AM
To: j.d...@shaw.ca ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???


Janet, I have to tell you that for so many years, and I've had TM for 12 years, 
so I cannot remember exactly how many, I honestly thought that I may just wake 
up one morning and it could be all gone.  It was a very nice thought, but never 
happened.  It really felt like I was living in a bad dream for so long, so 
thought I'd wake up and I would be out of it.  Talk about not living in 
reality?  

Jeron, I believe that you have a right to decide how you live your life, with 
or without medications.  I know that the brain fuzziness is no fun, but I enjoy 
the pain relief that it gives me.  Without it, I have absolutely no energy and 
I am a mental and physical wreck.  I personally cannot live without my family 
support, but you've decided the way you want to handle your life, which is 
between you and your family.  I couldn't handle it, although I do admit to 
hiding out in my room when I'm having a bad episode of spasms so nobody has to 
see me like that.  Still, they know I'm in there and can check on me.  I hope 
that you will be able to find a balance between what you want to do for 
yourself and how to include your family in your life as well.   

Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca
To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive


What I am really wondering is if one ever really gets to the point of accepting 
this thing?  It has almost been six years (August) and daily I have to decide 
whether to get up and work with it, fight it, or give into it.  

Most of the time I fight it.  Working with it would make my life easier I 
suppose, but darn it, I am with Jeron .  It has taken a lot away.

One of the things that I have discovered after fighting it so hard for five 
years – to get back to where I used to be before being struck with TM – was 
that either way, TM or no TM – I could not regain my former self.  It would be 
like suddenly becoming 30 again.  It isn’t going to be.  I would have aged 5 
years whether I had TM or not.  That made it much easier for me to realize that 
life is going to go on, I am going to grow older, and with age comes 
limitations, TM or not.  That might not make sense to others, but it sure 
helped me quit fighting so hard, and to accept the down days.

It also enabled me to lift up my head, look around, and realize that my friends 
and acquaintances all have their own struggles with growing older, they are 
just not as visible as mine.  Most of them deal with pain every day, in one way 
or another, just as a matter of course of growing older, and what that in 
itself can do to the body.

But, Jeron, I do totally get where you are coming from.  And I wish I could go 
scuba diving today too – especially since there is a heavy snowfall warning in 
effect for my area.  On May Long weekend no less!

Janet

[TMIC] OT - Memorial Day Thoughts...

2010-05-22 Thread Bernard Pelow
The proud, the many, the veterans; who seem to be forgotten except for 
one day of the year.  So much given, and taken advantage of by many.  
Thanks for remembering those alive and those who gave the ultimate gift, 
their lives.

Peace (for all someday I pray)
Bernie
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Re: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread Pieter and Heather
Jeron,

Good for you.
This is a positive message. 
I think your first message had me concerned for your life, as in suicide.
Leaving your wife and loved ones who were concerned for you.
I'm so glad that I was wrong. 
Go for it.  Do what YOU need to do to come to terms with TM. 
Keep us up to date on your adventures. 

Heather in Calgary 


  - Original Message - 
  From: j ra 
  To: Transverse Myelytis 
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive


  Hey everybody,
  When I started this post, I sure as hell wasn't expecting the can of worms 
that I opened up! I got what you all said about me being selfish and trying to 
go it alonepushing my wife away and all that. When I came to the Caribbean 
it was for two reasons. 1. I needed to learn to deal with this thing of ours 
called TM, but away from everyone who knows me. I did this because I wanted to 
see myself in the mirror again and not the person that everyone feels sorry for 
because I have TM. So I moved here for a litttle while just to get some me 
time. I am not pushing my loved ones away, like most of you thought. Truth be 
told, my wife fully understands why I wanted to be alone. 2. I am trying to 
relive my past. I am trying to push myself to do the things I loved to do even 
though I have TM. I know there is no way anyone of my loved ones are approving 
of this and are all worried about me going off into the deep blue sea or 
jumping out of a plane like I used to, so it's better if I do it when they 
can't see me do it and all be worried.
  So today was my first dive in years and for the first time since I had TM, I 
forgot all about it. My legs didn't hurt, my back was like brand new and it was 
amazing. Of course I got a little help from a 6 knot current to do most of the 
work under water for me (it's called a drift dive), but it was amazing. I did 
it! Adrenaline pumped through me for 32 amazing minutes and I felt alive again. 
I'm in all craploads of pain right now, but it was so worth it.
  Next stop, zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique. I know I'm 
in for some serious pain, but I think I'm slowly remembering the good days. My 
goal is to remember those days and replace the bad days. I called my wife and 
told her I loved her and she said she was proud of me for taking the step to 
regaining some control of my life.
  So, now.It feels great to be in painthis time it was worth it.
  Thanks everyone for all the emails and all the support. I love you guys very 
muchyou are my family!
  Jeron


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Fw: Re: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread Todd Tarno
Cindy sent this post to me, but I think it was to the group too.

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Cindy McLeroy cindymcle...@socal.rr.com wrote:


From: Cindy McLeroy cindymcle...@socal.rr.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] alive
To: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 11:07 PM


 
Jeron, I'm not going to comment on your first note, but on this one.  First, 
take a look at the Cody Unser First Step Foundation,   http://cufsf.org/.  Cody 
has had TM since she was 12 and 5 or so years ago she decided to Scuba dive.  
I've seen her diving several times.  One thing she wants to do is to reach as 
many TM'ers or para's and teach them to scuba dive.  Like you, she loves 
the freedom it gives.  I have many friends that have incorporated sky diving 
into their lives with TM or being a quad or a para (many with broken ankles).  
I have friends that surf, ski, play wheelchair tennis, wheelchair rugby, and 
all other sorts of sports.  Notice I said I have friends...I'm stricky the 
observer.
 
I wish you the best in your quests and good luck.
 
Cindy McLeroy
 
 
 
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From: Todd Tarno 
To: TMIC 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive






Hey Jeron,
This is wonderful news.  I'm so glad you had a wonderful time in the drift 
dive.  I have been on a drift in the ocean next to the beach with a friend at 
my side and friend drive a car about a fourth of mile to pick both of us up.  
It was so COOL.
Next stop, zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique
Can't wait to hear about this trip.
You show us that we can do more, if we want too. lol
Have a GREAT time  let us know how it went,
Todd in CC, TX


--- On Fri, 5/21/10, j ra rumc...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: j ra rumc...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive
To: Transverse Myelytis tmic-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 4:23 PM



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Hey everybody,
When I started this post, I sure as hell wasn't expecting the can of worms that 
I opened up! I got what you all said about me being selfish and trying to go it 
alonepushing my wife away and all that. When I came to the Caribbean it was 
for two reasons. 1. I needed to learn to deal with this thing of ours called 
TM, but away from everyone who knows me. I did this because I wanted to see 
myself in the mirror again and not the person that everyone feels sorry for 
because I have TM. So I moved here for a litttle while just to get some me 
time. I am not pushing my loved ones away, like most of you thought. Truth be 
told, my wife fully understands why I wanted to be alone. 2. I am trying to 
relive my past. I am trying to push myself to do the things I loved to do even 
though I have TM. I know there is no way anyone of my loved ones are approving 
of this and are all worried about me going off into the deep blue sea or 
jumping out of a plane like I used
 to, so it's better if I do it when they can't see me do it and all be worried.
So today was my first dive in years and for the first time since I had TM, I 
forgot all about it. My legs didn't hurt, my back was like brand new and it was 
amazing. Of course I got a little help from a 6 knot current to do most of the 
work under water for me (it's called a drift dive), but it was amazing. I did 
it! Adrenaline pumped through me for 32 amazing minutes and I felt alive again. 
I'm in all craploads of pain right now, but it was so worth it.
Next stop, zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique. I know I'm in 
for some serious pain, but I think I'm slowly remembering the good days. My 
goal is to remember those days and replace the bad days. I called my wife and 
told her I loved her and she said she was proud of me for taking the step to 
regaining some control of my life.
So, now.It feels great to be in painthis time it was worth it.
Thanks everyone for all the emails and all the support. I love you guys very 
muchyou are my family!
Jeron



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Re: [TMIC] Jeron's crisis

2010-05-22 Thread Janice Nichols
Re: [TMIC] Jeron's crisis50 years from now you may be surprised. It has 
happened to more than one author.
Janice



From: Dalton Garis 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Janice Nichols ; Regina Rummel ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Jeron's crisis


Thanks, janice;

I would dry up if I couldn't do anything for others, even tell nice stories to 
children or others.

Right now I am writing my second book.  It wont make any money but I like the 
idea of spreading thoughts out there for others to argu about and criticize.

Later,

Dalton 


On 22/5/10 6:59 AM, Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net wrote:


  You are right  - we can still be useful people.. After all, we have our 
brains and if our attitude can be kept in line with the brain, we can be very 
useful.
  Janice


  From: Dalton Garis mailto:malugss...@gmail.com  
  Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:17 PM
  To: Regina Rummel mailto:regina...@sbcglobal.net  ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Jeron's crisis

  Yeah!

  That's what we should be talking about!  We gotta support each other and 
GUIDE each other tp more productivity and adjustment to a life as good as it 
can be.

  I was lucky in several ways.  (1) I'm not that bad off with the TM and the MS 
has let me alone for now.  For instance, this is the first day I can't walk due 
to the spasticity attacks and the following deadening fatigue in the legs and 
arms.  And (2) I was paralyzed briefly when I was 22 from an industrial 
accident and had to do a lot of attitude adjusting back then. So, this, at aged 
62, is not so bad, thankfully. And I am still able to be productive.

  Its possible for us to be useful in some ways, and that adds to our positive 
spirituality, and that can save us at times.

  Best,

  Dalton  New York/Abu Dhabi


  On 22/5/10 12:04 AM, Regina Rummel regina...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


Like Jeron, when I realized (about four years ago)  that THIS was it, that 
I was never going to go back to my normal life style,  and that I would 
probably even get worse, I wanted to die.  I couldn't  stand it.  I gave away 
most of my jewelry to my daughter, piled up give  away stuff to the Salvation 
Army, finalized my will, made funeral  arrangements, etc.  That's basically 
what I did, hoping I wouldn't last  too much longer.  The best I could say 
about it, is that it kept me busy  until an MRI sent me to the hospital again 
with an AVA.  Of course I  hoped I'd die for sure during the operation.  I 
didn't.
 
To go back to those early days, like Jeron, I wrote  to this TM support 
group, not knowing too much about how it worked.  On  the subject line, I wrote 
Venting.  And oh boy! did I ever vent!   
 
I will never forget the kindness of all the responses I  got.  Reading them 
sort of mobilized my senses, slapped me with a good  dose of common sense,  and 
got me going, where?  I don't know...   But here I am.  Like so many of us, I 
survived.  No need to go  over the pain, the frustrations, the irritations with 
doctors who don't know  what to do with you, the expensive medications,  etc.  
The bottom  line is that if we survived we had to reach a certain level of 
acceptance.   Jeron, from the bottom of my heart, I hope that you will too.  
You  have the support and the understanding of a fabulous support group who 
care,  and are always willing to listen, just like I do.
Good  luck!
Regina





Re: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread Janice Nichols
Barb, I do like you do.If I have a few days that I know are going to be 
busy, I do it anyway knowing that for a couple of days after I will have to sit 
a lot and will be
sleepy for good ole' vicotin.But, you just have to push and do what you 
want to do even though you know there will be consequences.   The hell with 
TM!!
Janice



From: Barbara H. 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:57 AM
To: j ra 
Cc: Transverse Myelytis 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] alive


Hi Jeron,

Thanks for the further insight. Though you don't owe any of us an 
explanation, this does help us understand more. I have known of people who did 
push loved ones away and close up within themselves, and that's what I thought 
you were doing from your first note, thus my response.

And I don't see it as a can of worms. For the most part it has been a great 
discussion, I've enjoyed reading the responses and the way TMers step up to 
support each other. There is no handbook and no one right way to deal with TM 
-- that varies with each of us according to how we're affected physically as 
well as personality type, family support, etc. Personally, I would never have 
survived without faith in God and His Word to help me each day. But reading all 
these different responses helps each of us to gain more insight and 
encouragement in dealing with TM on our own terms.

I have to admit that diving and ziplining and such are not things that would 
appeal to me even without TM :-) But I am glad you're having the opportunity to 
experience them. And I do understand the need to challenge ourselves. The 
challenges I choose are different, but if I don't keep some challenges in front 
of me I would be curled up in a little ball inside my house and never move.

In the early days of TM, any excursion or activity beyond just the function of 
daily living would leave me exhausted and with a flare-up of symptoms the next 
day. But, as you said, it is worth it, and for me, though it still happens, it 
is less direct. In fact, sometimes I forget the correlation. I am coming up on 
my fifteenth anniversary with TM in September. Last weekend I was in charge 
of our church's annual ladies' luncheon. In the preceding weeks of preparation, 
I almost always tell myself, I am NEVER doing this again. Am I crazy, or 
what? But it is a joy to see it all come together. Then this week I was having 
some major back pain and elimination issues and could not sit still for very 
long without falling asleep, and I was wondering what in the world was going 
on. Then I had a Duh! smack myself upside the head moment of realization that 
all that pressure and stress, even though it was a good kind of stress, was 
exacting its payback this week, so then I could just relax and go with it and 
give myself permission to sleep a little more and not hope for a very 
productive week this week.

Anyway -- I wish you all the best.

Barbara H.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, j ra rumc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hey everybody,
  When I started this post, I sure as hell wasn't expecting the can of worms 
that I opened up! I got what you all said about me being selfish and trying to 
go it alonepushing my wife away and all that. When I came to the Caribbean 
it was for two reasons. 1. I needed to learn to deal with this thing of ours 
called TM, but away from everyone who knows me. I did this because I wanted to 
see myself in the mirror again and not the person that everyone feels sorry for 
because I have TM. So I moved here for a litttle while just to get some me 
time. I am not pushing my loved ones away, like most of you thought. Truth be 
told, my wife fully understands why I wanted to be alone. 2. I am trying to 
relive my past. I am trying to push myself to do the things I loved to do even 
though I have TM. I know there is no way anyone of my loved ones are approving 
of this and are all worried about me going off into the deep blue sea or 
jumping out of a plane like I used to, so it's better if I do it when they 
can't see me do it and all be worried.
  So today was my first dive in years and for the first time since I had TM, I 
forgot all about it. My legs didn't hurt, my back was like brand new and it was 
amazing. Of course I got a little help from a 6 knot current to do most of the 
work under water for me (it's called a drift dive), but it was amazing. I did 
it! Adrenaline pumped through me for 32 amazing minutes and I felt alive again. 
I'm in all craploads of pain right now, but it was so worth it.
  Next stop, zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique. I know I'm 
in for some serious pain, but I think I'm slowly remembering the good days. My 
goal is to remember those days and replace the bad days. I called my wife and 
told her I loved her and she said she was proud of me for taking the step to 
regaining some control of my life.
  So, now.It feels great to be in painthis time it was worth it.
  Thanks everyone for all the emails and all the support. 

RE: [TMIC] alive

2010-05-22 Thread j ra

well said Janicethe hell with TM!
lol
live and then live with the consequences

From: jan...@centurytel.net
To: barbara...@gmail.com; rumc...@hotmail.com
CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] alive
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 14:15:46 -0500








Barb, I do like you do.If I have a 
few days that I know are going to be busy, I do it anyway knowing that for a 
couple of days after I will have to sit a lot and will be
sleepy for good ole' vicotin.But, you 
just have to push and do what you want to do even though you know there will be 
consequences.   The hell with TM!!
Janice
 




From: Barbara H. 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:57 AM
To: j 
ra 
Cc: Transverse Myelytis 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] alive

Hi Jeron,

Thanks for the further insight. 
Though you don't owe any of us an explanation, this does help us understand 
more. I have known of people who did push loved ones away and close up within 
themselves, and that's what I thought you were doing from your first note, thus 
my response.

And I don't see it as a can of worms. For the most part it 
has been a great discussion, I've enjoyed reading the responses and the way 
TMers step up to support each other. There is no handbook and no one right way 
to deal with TM -- that varies with each of us according to how we're affected 
physically as well as personality type, family support, etc. Personally, I 
would 
never have survived without faith in God and His Word to help me each day. But 
reading all these different responses helps each of us to gain more insight and 
encouragement in dealing with TM on our own terms.

I have to admit that 
diving and ziplining and such are not things that would appeal to me even 
without TM :-) But I am glad you're having the opportunity to experience them. 
And I do understand the need to challenge ourselves. The challenges I choose 
are 
different, but if I don't keep some challenges in front of me I would be curled 
up in a little ball inside my house and never move.

In the early days of 
TM, any excursion or activity beyond just the function of daily living would 
leave me exhausted and with a flare-up of symptoms the next day. But, as you 
said, it is worth it, and for me, though it still happens, it is less direct. 
In 
fact, sometimes I forget the correlation. I am coming up on my fifteenth 
anniversary with TM in September. Last weekend I was in charge of our 
church's 
annual ladies' luncheon. In the preceding weeks of preparation, I almost always 
tell myself, I am NEVER doing this again. Am I crazy, or what? But it is a 
joy 
to see it all come together. Then this week I was having some major back pain 
and elimination issues and could not sit still for very long without falling 
asleep, and I was wondering what in the world was going on. Then I had a Duh! 
smack myself upside the head moment of realization that all that pressure and 
stress, even though it was a good kind of stress, was exacting its payback this 
week, so then I could just relax and go with it and give myself permission to 
sleep a little more and not hope for a very productive week this 
week.

Anyway -- I wish you all the 
best.

Barbara H.





On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM, j ra rumc...@hotmail.com wrote:


  Hey everybody,
When I started this post, I sure as hell wasn't 
  expecting the can of worms that I opened up! I got what you all said about me 
  being selfish and trying to go it alonepushing my wife away and all that. 
  When I came to the Caribbean it was for two reasons. 1. I needed to learn to 
  deal with this thing of ours called TM, but away from everyone who knows me. 
I 
  did this because I wanted to see myself in the mirror again and not the 
person 
  that everyone feels sorry for because I have TM. So I moved here for a 
litttle 
  while just to get some me time. I am not pushing my loved ones away, like 
  most of you thought. Truth be told, my wife fully understands why I wanted to 
  be alone. 2. I am trying to relive my past. I am trying to push myself to do 
  the things I loved to do even though I have TM. I know there is no way anyone 
  of my loved ones are approving of this and are all worried about me going off 
  into the deep blue sea or jumping out of a plane like I used to, so it's 
  better if I do it when they can't see me do it and all be worried.
So today 
  was my first dive in years and for the first time since I had TM, I forgot 
all 
  about it. My legs didn't hurt, my back was like brand new and it was amazing. 
  Of course I got a little help from a 6 knot current to do most of the work 
  under water for me (it's called a drift dive), but it was amazing. I did it! 
  Adrenaline pumped through me for 32 amazing minutes and I felt alive again. 
  I'm in all craploads of pain right now, but it was so worth it.
Next stop, 
  zip-lining in St. Lucia and Sky diving in Martinique. I know I'm in for some 
  serious pain, but I think I'm slowly remembering the good days. My goal is 

Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???

2010-05-22 Thread Barbara Alma
For all who love the beach: we have found that there are some beaches that have 
very large wheelchairs that have huge plastic wheels that go very well on sand. 
 We've seen these in San Diego, Florida and on private islands that the cruise 
companies have in the Bahamas.  It makes it possible to be at the beach at 
least, they can go into the water also.  Picture a Lily Tomlin chair made of 
PVC pipe, quite fun!  I loved it.  I have tried in the past walking in dry sand 
on my crutches and it moves too much for me so I couldn't do it.  I've walked 
with 2 men holding my arms and that's very hard, but once I get on the hard, 
wet sand I'm in better shape and can do better with help.  It only takes a very 
weak and I mean the weakest kind of wave you can imagine to knock me over 
unless I get into at least waist high water, but I love it.  The caribbean 
water is the best, nice and warm and clear.  It's worth it all to me to be able 
to experience the beach.


Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
To: j.d...@shaw.ca; tmic-list@eskimo.com; Barbara Alma balmat...@aol.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???


Janet, you are right on the money.  I, too, used to think is this really 
happening? Life is not the same, but it is life and I am surrounded with a 
great family
and great friends.  I am adjusting to the fact that we will not be doing 
any more beach vacations.Walking on sand would be too difficult and 
exhausting.  But,
we are thinking of other places that we can go. It took 3 years to get to 
where I could travel and I love it, but I have to be picky about what we do.
I hate this more than I can say, but I do still have a life and I still do 
things - dinner with friends, movies, etc.   Pain level is not so bad right 
now, but there is no
warning when the legs will give out on me.  Life is truly full of surprises.
 
Love you all,
Janice
 




From: Barbara Alma 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:05 AM
To: j.d...@shaw.ca ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???



Janet, I have to tell you that for so many years, and I've had TM for 12 years, 
so I cannot remember exactly how many, I honestly thought that I may just wake 
up one morning and it could be all gone.  It was a very nice thought, but never 
happened.  It really felt like I was living in a bad dream for so long, so 
thought I'd wake up and I would be out of it.  Talk about not living in 
reality?  
 
Jeron, I believe that you have a right to decide how you live your life, with 
or without medications.  I know that the brain fuzziness is no fun, but I enjoy 
the pain relief that it gives me.  Without it, I have absolutely no energy and 
I am a mental and physical wreck.  I personally cannot live without my family 
support, but you've decided the way you want to handle your life, which is 
between you and your family.  I couldn't handle it, although I do admit to 
hiding out in my room when I'm having a bad episode of spasms so nobody has to 
see me like that.  Still, they know I'm in there and can check on me.  I hope 
that you will be able to find a balance between what you want to do for 
yourself and how to include your family in your life as well.   
 
Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca
To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive



What I am really wondering is if one ever really gets to the point of accepting 
this thing?  It has almost been six years (August) and daily I have to decide 
whether to get up and work with it, fight it, or give into it.  
 
Most of the time I fight it.  Working with it would make my life easier I 
suppose, but darn it, I am with Jeron .  It has taken a lot away.
 
One of the things that I have discovered after fighting it so hard for five 
years – to get back to where I used to be before being struck with TM – was 
that either way, TM or no TM – I could not regain my former self.  It would be 
like suddenly becoming 30 again.  It isn’t going to be.  I would have aged 5 
years whether I had TM or not.  That made it much easier for me to realize that 
life is going to go on, I am going to grow older, and with age comes 
limitations, TM or not.  That might not make sense to others, but it sure 
helped me quit fighting so hard, and to accept the down days.
 
It also enabled me to lift up my head, look around, and realize that my friends 
and acquaintances all have their own struggles with growing older, they are 
just not as visible as mine.  Most of them deal with pain every day, in one way 
or another, just as a matter of course of growing older, and what that in 
itself can do to the body.
 
But, Jeron, I do totally get where you are coming from.  And I wish I could go 
scuba diving today too – 

Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???

2010-05-22 Thread Janice Nichols
That sounds wonderful.
Janice


From: Barbara Alma 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:45 PM
To: jan...@centurytel.net ; tmic-l...@eskimo.net 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???


For all who love the beach: we have found that there are some beaches that have 
very large wheelchairs that have huge plastic wheels that go very well on sand. 
 We've seen these in San Diego, Florida and on private islands that the cruise 
companies have in the Bahamas.  It makes it possible to be at the beach at 
least, they can go into the water also.  Picture a Lily Tomlin chair made of 
PVC pipe, quite fun!  I loved it.  I have tried in the past walking in dry sand 
on my crutches and it moves too much for me so I couldn't do it.  I've walked 
with 2 men holding my arms and that's very hard, but once I get on the hard, 
wet sand I'm in better shape and can do better with help.  It only takes a very 
weak and I mean the weakest kind of wave you can imagine to knock me over 
unless I get into at least waist high water, but I love it.  The caribbean 
water is the best, nice and warm and clear.  It's worth it all to me to be able 
to experience the beach.


Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net
To: j.d...@shaw.ca; tmic-list@eskimo.com; Barbara Alma balmat...@aol.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:58 am
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???


Janet, you are right on the money.  I, too, used to think is this really 
happening? Life is not the same, but it is life and I am surrounded with a 
great family
and great friends.  I am adjusting to the fact that we will not be doing 
any more beach vacations.Walking on sand would be too difficult and 
exhausting.  But,
we are thinking of other places that we can go. It took 3 years to get to 
where I could travel and I love it, but I have to be picky about what we do.
I hate this more than I can say, but I do still have a life and I still do 
things - dinner with friends, movies, etc.   Pain level is not so bad right 
now, but there is no
warning when the legs will give out on me.  Life is truly full of surprises.

Love you all,
Janice



From: Barbara Alma 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:05 AM
To: j.d...@shaw.ca ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???


Janet, I have to tell you that for so many years, and I've had TM for 12 years, 
so I cannot remember exactly how many, I honestly thought that I may just wake 
up one morning and it could be all gone.  It was a very nice thought, but never 
happened.  It really felt like I was living in a bad dream for so long, so 
thought I'd wake up and I would be out of it.  Talk about not living in 
reality?  

Jeron, I believe that you have a right to decide how you live your life, with 
or without medications.  I know that the brain fuzziness is no fun, but I enjoy 
the pain relief that it gives me.  Without it, I have absolutely no energy and 
I am a mental and physical wreck.  I personally cannot live without my family 
support, but you've decided the way you want to handle your life, which is 
between you and your family.  I couldn't handle it, although I do admit to 
hiding out in my room when I'm having a bad episode of spasms so nobody has to 
see me like that.  Still, they know I'm in there and can check on me.  I hope 
that you will be able to find a balance between what you want to do for 
yourself and how to include your family in your life as well.   

Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA



-Original Message-
From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca
To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive


What I am really wondering is if one ever really gets to the point of accepting 
this thing?  It has almost been six years (August) and daily I have to decide 
whether to get up and work with it, fight it, or give into it.  

Most of the time I fight it.  Working with it would make my life easier I 
suppose, but darn it, I am with Jeron .  It has taken a lot away.

One of the things that I have discovered after fighting it so hard for five 
years – to get back to where I used to be before being struck with TM – was 
that either way, TM or no TM – I could not regain my former self.  It would be 
like suddenly becoming 30 again.  It isn’t going to be.  I would have aged 5 
years whether I had TM or not.  That made it much easier for me to realize that 
life is going to go on, I am going to grow older, and with age comes 
limitations, TM or not.  That might not make sense to others, but it sure 
helped me quit fighting so hard, and to accept the down days.

It also enabled me to lift up my head, look around, and realize that my friends 
and acquaintances all have their own struggles with growing older, they are 
just not as visible as mine.  Most of them deal with pain every day, in one way 
or another, 

RE: [TMIC] CYBER-thon to benefit TMA on June 8th

2010-05-22 Thread j ra

damn...this is so cool! It took me 6 months to learn to walk again, so I'm in 
guys.
Jeron

Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 18:52:56 -0700
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
From: jlu...@myelitis.org
Subject: [TMIC] CYBER-thon to benefit TMA on June 8th



I am helping Sally Franz (a TM survivor) with her CYBER-thon
which will benefit The Transverse Myelitis Association. This is for real
and it’s worth checking out. See what you think… (more details at
http://www.ScrambledLeggs.net
)


On Tuesday, June 8th award winning humor author, Sally Franz is giving
away $200 of FREE cool stuff to everyone with her launch of her Amazon
Best Seller humor book (or Kindle), Scrambled Leggs...A Snarky Tale
of Hospital Hooey. It’s all a part of a huge Cyber-thon for
charity. Also, read to the bottom about a FREE Writers Workshop. But
first…


A QUICK QUIZ: Say you’re going into a hospital. You need a great doctor,
good insurance and what other one thing to make sure you get out alive?
Answer: Mr. ‘T’ in scrubs (aka a Patient Advocate Ninja, someone to watch
your pills, your personhood and property while you are drifting off to
La-la Land). Wait until you see what goes on after Visiting
Hours…


BOOK SUMMARY: Sally was paralyzed from the waist down and had to learn to
walk again. But that was the easy part. Dealing with the hospital staff,
that was scary. So she wrote it all down in a hilarious tale of ‘helpers’
who ranged from dangerous to delusional (picture Nurse Ratchet on
steroids). Funny, inspirational and a major lampoon on the health care
system; you will love this ‘laugh-out loud’ book. Don’t leave home
without it. 


CELEBRITY QUOTES: Comic genius Jonathan Winters says, “Sally Franz is
VERY funny.” Dave Barry sends, “Congrats on your (new) book, best of
luck.” Mark Victor Hansen, Jayne Meadows (Mrs. Steve Allen), Linda
Bloodworth-Thomason (Designing Women) all praise her writing. Doctors,
nurses and patients are raving about this book! Find out why.


FREE STUFF: Tuesday, June 8th go to
http://www.ScrambledLeggs.net
, buy “Scrambled Leggs” and 20% goes to charity. And to thank you there
will be a super-sized Cyber-Goody-Bag of downloadable FREEBIES with over
$200 worth of very cool stuff: 20 humor posters, “Rave Recipes” cookbook,
5 full e-books, tips on humor writing, interviews with top writers and
book excerpts. It all comes with the purchase of only 1 book (around
$15.00). I know! Go to
http://www.ScrambledLeggs.net
to check this out. 


2IT’S FOR CHARITY: Yup, it’s a Cyber-thon for charity! A full 20% of book
proceeds are going to 2 fabulous charities: 10% goes to “The Transverse
Myelitis Association” (education and research for rare neuro-immune
disorders) and 10 % of book proceeds go to “Operation First Response”
(helping returning Wounded Warriors)


ALSO:

FREE WRITERS WORKSHOP: Anyone can join this. JUNE 8th, come to the
FaceBook group Scrambled Leggs. (If you can’t find it go to
FaceBook: Sally Franz­she’s the one with pink, green and blue confetti
coming out of her head), she will get you over to the Scrambled Leggs
group. This all day workshop IS the real deal (not one of those cheesy
sales pitches thinly disguised as a seminar). It is a whole day of online
chatting about the process of writing from idea, to publishing, and
marketing. If you miss it the posts will be up for a while. Mark this on
your calendar. It starts 8am EST and ends 8pm EST. And of course there
will be a few challenges for Limericks, 55 word novels and more. TUESDAY,
June 8th. 

Thanks,


P.S. PASS IT ON! Would you share letter this with your entire e-list and
tell them to share it with their e-lists and so on and so forth. Help
raise thousands of dollars for these two Charities. TUESDAY, June 8th.
http://www.ScrambledLeggs.net



  
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RE: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???

2010-05-22 Thread j ra

oh hell yeah, I'm there now! I can't feel anything under my feet, but I'm a 
walker. Somehow when the sand gets between your toes in the warm Caribbbean 
sand, you can actually feel it. It's amazing. Warm, wet and new.what we all 
TMers need. I'd like to walk barefoot in some snow soon though.feel the 
difference.
Jeron

To: jan...@centurytel.net; tmic-l...@eskimo.net
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 23:45:29 -0400
From: balmat...@aol.com

For all who love the beach: we have found that there are some beaches that have 
very large wheelchairs that have huge plastic wheels that go very well on sand. 
 We've seen these in San Diego, Florida and on private islands that the cruise 
companies have in the Bahamas.  It makes it possible to be at the beach at 
least, they can go into the water also.  Picture a Lily Tomlin chair made of 
PVC pipe, quite fun!  I loved it.  I have tried in the past walking in dry sand 
on my crutches and it moves too much for me so I couldn't do it.  I've walked 
with 2 men holding my arms and that's very hard, but once I get on the hard, 
wet sand I'm in better shape and can do better with help.  It only takes a very 
weak and I mean the weakest kind of wave you can imagine to knock me over 
unless I get into at least waist high water, but I love it.  The caribbean 
water is the best, nice and warm and clear.  It's worth it all to me to be able 
to experience the beach.





Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA






-Original Message-

From: Janice Nichols jan...@centurytel.net

To: j.d...@shaw.ca; tmic-list@eskimo.com; Barbara Alma balmat...@aol.com

Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 8:58 am

Subject: Re: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???







Janet, you are right on the money.  I, too, used to think is this really 
happening? Life is not the same, but it is life and I am surrounded with a 
great family


and great friends.  I am adjusting to the fact that we will not be doing 
any more beach vacations.Walking on sand would be too difficult and 
exhausting.  But,


we are thinking of other places that we can go. It took 3 years to get to 
where I could travel and I love it, but I have to be picky about what we do.


I hate this more than I can say, but I do still have a life and I still do 
things - dinner with friends, movies, etc.   Pain level is not so bad right 
now, but there is no


warning when the legs will give out on me.  Life is truly full of surprises.


 


Love you all,


Janice


 











From: Barbara Alma 


Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:05 AM


To: j.d...@shaw.ca ; tmic-list@eskimo.com 


Subject: [TMIC] Living life on your own terms - accepting TM???









Janet, I have to tell you that for so many years, and I've had TM for 12 years, 
so I cannot remember exactly how many, I honestly thought that I may just wake 
up one morning and it could be all gone.  It was a very nice thought, but never 
happened.  It really felt like I was living in a bad dream for so long, so 
thought I'd wake up and I would be out of it.  Talk about not living in 
reality?  


 


Jeron, I believe that you have a right to decide how you live your life, with 
or without medications.  I know that the brain fuzziness is no fun, but I enjoy 
the pain relief that it gives me.  Without it, I have absolutely no energy and 
I am a mental and physical wreck.  I personally cannot live without my family 
support, but you've decided the way you want to handle your life, which is 
between you and your family.  I couldn't handle it, although I do admit to 
hiding out in my room when I'm having a bad episode of spasms so nobody has to 
see me like that.  Still, they know I'm in there and can check on me.  I hope 
that you will be able to find a balance between what you want to do for 
yourself and how to include your family in your life as well.   


 


Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA






-Original Message-

From: Janet Dunn j.d...@shaw.ca

To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net; tmic-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 9:10 am

Subject: RE: [TMIC] alive











What I am really wondering is if one ever really gets to the point of accepting 
this thing?  It has almost been six years (August) and daily I have to decide 
whether to get up and work with it, fight it, or give into it.  


 


Most of the time I fight it.  Working with it would make my life easier I 
suppose, but darn it, I am with Jeron .  It has taken a lot away.


 


One of the things that I have discovered after fighting it so hard for five 
years – to get back to where I used to be before being struck with TM – was 
that either way, TM or no TM – I could not regain my former self.  It would be 
like suddenly becoming 30 again.  It isn’t going to be.  I would have aged 5 
years whether I had TM or not.  That made it much easier for me to realize that 
life is going to go on, I am going to grow older, and with age comes