Buggy .war in 5.5.9 binary distribution
Hello all, I've been playing around with the samples in the 5.5.9 distribution, and the .war available from the internal link: http://localhost/tomcat-docs/appdev/sample/sample.war doesn't autodeploy when placed in webapps. Furthermore, attempting to extract it with jar (fastjar) 0.92-gcc throws the following java.zip exception: created: META-INF/ extracted: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 975 but got 470 bytes) at java.util.zip.ZipInputStream.readEnd(ZipInputStream.java:368) at java.util.zip.ZipInputStream.read(ZipInputStream.java:141) at sun.tools.jar.Main.extractFile(Main.java:714) at sun.tools.jar.Main.extract(Main.java:677) at sun.tools.jar.Main.run(Main.java:189) at sun.tools.jar.Main.main(Main.java:903) [EMAIL PROTECTED] webapps]# jar -xvf sample.war - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Buggy .war in 5.5.9 binary distribution
From: Alexander Fairley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Buggy .war in 5.5.9 binary distribution I've been playing around with the samples in the 5.5.9 distribution, and the .war available from the internal link: http://localhost/tomcat-docs/appdev/sample/sample.war doesn't autodeploy when placed in webapps. Furthermore, attempting to extract it with jar (fastjar) 0.92-gcc throws the following java.zip exception: created: META-INF/ extracted: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 975 but got 470 bytes) at java.util.zip.ZipInputStream.readEnd(ZipInputStream.java:368) I just downloaded a fresh copy of the 5.5.9 zip distribution, installed it, examined sample.war, and extracted everything from it - with no problems. Did you verify the checksums of your download? - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Buggy .war in 5.5.9 binary distribution
I just deployed the one that shipped with 5.5.9 as well. At one point that war file was corrupted but I know the issue was fixed before 5.5.9. http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32382 On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 10:57, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Alexander Fairley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Buggy .war in 5.5.9 binary distribution I've been playing around with the samples in the 5.5.9 distribution, and the .war available from the internal link: http://localhost/tomcat-docs/appdev/sample/sample.war doesn't autodeploy when placed in webapps. Furthermore, attempting to extract it with jar (fastjar) 0.92-gcc throws the following java.zip exception: created: META-INF/ extracted: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry size (expected 975 but got 470 bytes) at java.util.zip.ZipInputStream.readEnd(ZipInputStream.java:368) I just downloaded a fresh copy of the 5.5.9 zip distribution, installed it, examined sample.war, and extracted everything from it - with no problems. Did you verify the checksums of your download? - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
[Marked off-topic as this now has nothing to do with Tomcat.] From: Steve Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I ask how sure you felt of what you say here please: Uhhh... how about 'the little pixies told me, and I believe everything they say'? :-) It's from a combination of knowing two folks who used to run an ISP's DNS services to get details of the timeouts, plus a little bit of digging into the format of SOA and A records. In other words: it's my opinion, do not take it as canon! I'll try to explain my reasoning below. I tried to research it but could not get to the bottom of it with any real info from ISPs (the problem is that they seem to do their own thing to various extents). That is *exactly* the problem. In essence, one cannot rely on some aspects of the DNS specification in the real world, as real-world ISPs hack with their software to improve performance for their environment in ways that break the spec. An example: I've taken cache expiry times on a zone down to 5 minutes, several days before I knew I needed to move a service to a new IP address; changed the DNS; and sure enough, some ISPs were still handing out the old address 20 hours later because they weren't respecting the stated expiry times and were substituting their own, and the old service was still getting hits. I have set up roundrobin DNS for an ecommerce site in the past without any complaints from users, and the balance of load between a pair of clustered servers seemed pretty even. Good to know that it can work in the real world. I can make all the theoretical points I want, but the hard data in your statement is probably worth more than the rest of this email. I would expect any DNS server run by an ISP (such as AOL) to receive the zone records from SOA intact, i.e. these major dns servers should know about all rr Ips for a given dns name, and would therefore be able to RR distribute them to lower-tier DNS servers. Your expectation is incorrect, I think - even the large DNS servers make standard requests for A records for the given FQDN, and cache the result. If the result contains a set of IP addresses in a particular order, then that's what is obtained. To my knowledge (my reasoning falls down if this is not the case, so this is the bit to check!) neither the returned A records themselves nor the returned SOA record contain any indication that they should be handed out in a round-robin fashion; and the SOA record would not typically be requested by another server. I would have thought that the level at which DNS servers do not pick up the fact that there is a RR DNS entry is where they do not do a zone transfer from a primary DNS server - they simply act as a client and cache what they get as a response, so they are unaware that there even are more than one IP. Even high-level DNS servers don't do zone transfers unless they're secondaries for the zone. And, even then, the information about whether or not to use round-robin is an option set for the zone, not something that appears in the SOA record for immediate use by the secondary. Also, remember that many zones are configured to refuse zone transfer requests from addresses that are not configured as secondaries. So overall I guess I'm saying I'd be surprised if AOL's DNS servers only cached one entry of a RR set for a DNS name. What are your thoughts? I've revised my position slightly. I think they'll cache the list in a particular order, rather than a single entry; but the ordering of that list will be fixed as they won't know to serve it in round-robin fashion. If you can confirm or challenge that position, I'd be interested! - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
Thanks Peter, interesting. Your experience of it sounds similar to other experiences I've had when changing from one ISP to another (there seems to be a cutover time of up to 3 days where some 3rd party ISPs clearly still cached and served the old IP for our domain name). It was because of this that I investigated more at the time, but as you say, it's each ISP to their own practice. I would expect any DNS server run by an ISP (such as AOL) to receive the zone records from SOA intact, i.e. these major dns servers should know about all rr Ips for a given dns name, and would therefore be able to RR distribute them to lower-tier DNS servers. Your expectation is incorrect, I think - even the large DNS servers make standard requests for A records for the given FQDN, and cache the result. Yes you're probably right there now I think about it. I think these are referred to as caching servers as opposed to secondary. It's the secondaries that receive the zone transfers. Having said that, I'd have thought that a large ISP such as AOL would have secondaries, (inaccesible by joe public), but would also have caching servers, which are the ones they make public. Since they typically have several caching DNS servers, in theory there is a good chance that each of them will get a different one of the RR Ips from their secondary server, so in theory the RR goal is often achieved? For example I just used DOS nslookup to query my ISPs 2 main dns servers for www.microsoft.com - they each returned a different address, although repeatedly querying each one returns the same answer every time. If I go through a local caching DNS on my LAN, that returns a third address for MS - again, the same one every time. If the result contains a set of IP addresses in a particular order, then that's what is obtained. To my knowledge (my reasoning falls down if this is not the case, so this is the bit to check!) neither the returned A records themselves nor the returned SOA record contain any indication that they should be handed out in a round-robin fashion; and the SOA record would not typically be requested by another server. AFAIK that is correct, the DNS protocol does not say anything about how DNS servers should respond to clients when there are multiple Ips registered in DNS for a host. Likewise if the DNS server only returns one IP all the time, the client protocol provides no way for the client to say give me the next one or give me number 3 or give me them all. So some caching DNS servers will always return the first one in the list, others will order Ips according to their own rule (which meets the spec) but then always serve the first one in that order. And others will cycle through them in turn (which is RR). Basically, it's internal feature of the DNS server to decide how it treats hostnames for which is has more than one IP. Of these 3 basic approaches, the first gives no RR, the second is slightly better, the 3rd is the best. Of course they are all only rudimentary load balancing methods, and of course even the 3rd falls down if ISPs with millions of users happen to cache a single IP for a site, as you say. Someone please correct me if any of this is wrong, as I'd like to understand this area better :) PS this has rekindled my interest so I just googled to refresh my mind on the basics, this seems a useful page that explains what we are talking about above. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/26/load.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
From: Steve Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Peter, interesting. Internet issues in the large tend to be - you get emergent behaviour that is often unexpected :-). I think these are referred to as caching servers as opposed to secondary. It's the secondaries that receive the zone transfers. Yes. Note that these roles are per-zone; a given DNS server may act as a primary or secondary for some zones, and as a caching server for others. Having said that, I'd have thought that a large ISP such as AOL would have secondaries, (inaccesible by joe public), but would also have caching servers, which are the ones they make public. It would be difficult to persuade those secondaries to be effective - for what zones are they secondaries? Let's say AOL want to act as a secondary for foo.com. How do AOL contact the owners of foo.com in order to request that their secondary server is added to the list of allowed IPs for zone transfers? Other than that, AOL could then make use of those servers as forwarders from their caching servers, I accept. Since they typically have several caching DNS servers, in theory there is a good chance that each of them will get a different one of the RR Ips from their secondary server, so in theory the RR goal is often achieved? Assuming they are independent and not configured to use the same forwarders, yes. You might be surprised how few DNS servers an organisation needs, though - Demon (my home ISP, and not a small one) has two, and could probably get away with one except for redundancy. I've not seen an ISP setup document yet that says to use primary and secondary DNS of ns47.isp.net and ns32.isp.net - they're almost all ns0 and ns1 or ns1 and ns2, indicating that there are probably very few in the organisation. For example I just used DOS nslookup to query my ISPs 2 main dns servers for www.microsoft.com - they each returned a different address, although repeatedly querying each one returns the same answer every time. If I go through a local caching DNS on my LAN, that returns a third address for MS - again, the same one every time. Yup. So anyone using your ISP's DNS servers will get one of two IPs for www.microsoft.com at present, out of the however many they have. Lumpy load balancing in action :-). You likely haven't set up your own caching DNS to forward requests to your ISP's DNS servers; otherwise you'd have had one of the same answers. Basically, it's internal feature of the DNS server to decide how it treats hostnames for which is has more than one IP. Indeed. PS this has rekindled my interest so I just googled to refresh my mind on the basics, this seems a useful page that explains what we are talking about above. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2001/09/26/load.html Yes, that seems like a reaonable summary, although it doesn't really go into the caching effects we're discussing here. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
Yup. So anyone using your ISP's DNS servers will get one of two IPs for www.microsoft.com at present, out of the however many they have. Lumpy load balancing in action :-). Yes true, hadn't thought of it like that. Where a site has more Ips for a host than an ISP has DNS servers, this is going to lead to lumpiness. I guess this is one of the key reasons why RR DNS is only ever a poor man's load balancer. OK-ish if you have 2 Ips, gets worse if you have more. You likely haven't set up your own caching DNS to forward requests to your ISP's DNS servers; otherwise you'd have had one of the same answers. Funnily enough I have, and I use Demon too. I think my local DNS has maybe kept an MS entry cached and it's refresh TTL is out of sync with the demon DNS caches. But what you say is right - if I restart that local DNS, it will then get a fresh MS entry from one of the 2 cached at the Demon servers. In fact I just have, and it did. Thanks again, that's clarified a few things I was a bit fuzzy on. Sorry John for the slight off-topic diversion but I hope this diversion on RR DNS might have been of interest to you too. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
I was looking at the book, 'Tomcat: the definitive guide' last night, and the clustering chapter talked about load balancing via DNS Request distribution or TCP NAT distribution. Could someone explain these to me a little better in relation to Tomcat in a microsoft architecture? most of that book is based on Unix. My questions are as follows - mostly they are just clarification of the mechanism: 1) for DNS Request Distribution - I dont understand. The browser sends a URL to the DNS, the DNS responds back with an IP address. But what if at that IP address, you have a web server listening on port 80? If Tomcat is at that address also, Tomcat would have to listen on another port. Can the DNS distribute back to the browser the IP Address AND the Tomcat port so the browser connects to Tomcat on a non port 80 port? Also, is there a way to setup the DNS to Round Robin or check server load on the servers in the Tomcat cluster so it knows which Tomcat server ip:port to send back. OR does this whole thing imply that you have an IP for each web server (IIS), and each web server is tied to each server in the Tomcat cluster via a jk2 redirector? 2)TCP NAT distribution - Does this mean that when the browser connects to the IP address, that that connection is intercepted and the request is distributed to a server in the Tomcat cluster? If this is the case, then what does the interception? and how do you configure that thing to use a specific algorithm (server load, Round Robin, etc..) to choose which server to forward the request to? can it forward to an IP:PORT or does it have to forward to an IP John McClain Senior Software Engineer TCS Healthcare [EMAIL PROTECTED] (530)886-1700x235 Skepticism is the first step toward truth - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
From: John MccLain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) for DNS Request Distribution - I dont understand. The browser sends a URL to the DNS, the DNS responds back with an IP address. But what if at that IP address, you have a web server listening on port 80? The browser talks to that Web server. If Tomcat is at that address also, Tomcat would have to listen on another port. Can the DNS distribute back to the browser the IP Address AND the Tomcat port so the browser connects to Tomcat on a non port 80 port? Only if your original URL uses the name:port notation - there is nothing in this scheme to prevent that. Also, is there a way to setup the DNS to Round Robin or check server load on the servers in the Tomcat cluster so it knows which Tomcat server ip:port to send back. No standard way afaik. Worse, downstream DNS servers may (often do) cache the returned IPs for up to a day despite any cache expiry you put on them. If (say) the AOL DNS servers all get the same IP address in their cache, all your AOL visitors will visit the same IP address. DNS is a very lumpy way of doing load balancing. OR does this whole thing imply that you have an IP for each web server (IIS) IP address yes; IIS depends on whether you want IIS or Tomcat at the business end of the cluster. and each web server is tied to each server in the Tomcat cluster via a jk2 redirector? If you wish to use that architecture, yes. 2)TCP NAT distribution - Does this mean that when the browser connects to the IP address, that that connection is intercepted and the request is distributed to a server in the Tomcat cluster? Yes. If this is the case, then what does the interception? Generically, a router that has this capability. It's that router that also does the NATing. Many mid- to high-end hardware routers and some software routing packages can do this. and how do you configure that thing to use a specific algorithm (server load, Round Robin, etc..) to choose which server to forward the request to? That is router-specific. There is no standard (afaik) for the servers to return load information, so you're stuck with proprietary solutions *or* the router doesn't load-balance. can it forward to an IP:PORT or does it have to forward to an IP That is router-specific. Given that the capability typically exists on mid- to high-end routers, most will also have the capability to change the internal port that is in use. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster
Peter, I agree that DNS is a very lumpy way of doing load balancing. But your comments interested me. Can I ask how sure you felt of what you say here please: No standard way afaik. Worse, downstream DNS servers may (often do) cache the returned IPs for up to a day despite any cache expiry you put on them. If (say) the AOL DNS servers all get the same IP address in their cache, all your AOL visitors will visit the same IP address. I'm not for a minute suggesting that it is wrong :) and wouldn't dream of doing so, because I don't know all the facts myself. I tried to research it but could not get to the bottom of it with any real info from ISPs (the problem is that they seem to do their own thing to various extents). I'm just interested in comparing experiences/opinions. I have set up roundrobin DNS for an ecommerce site in the past without any complaints from users, and the balance of load between a pair of clustered servers seemed pretty even. I would expect any DNS server run by an ISP (such as AOL) to receive the zone records from SOA intact, i.e. these major dns servers should know about all rr Ips for a given dns name, and would therefore be able to RR distribute them to lower-tier DNS servers. I would have thought that the level at which DNS servers do not pick up the fact that there is a RR DNS entry is where they do not do a zone transfer from a primary DNS server - they simply act as a client and cache what they get as a response, so they are unaware that there even are more than one IP. I'm speculating that these minor DNS servers belong to small ISPs, or private companies running their own DNS in-house? So overall I guess I'm saying I'd be surprised if AOL's DNS servers only cached one entry of a RR set for a DNS name. What are your thoughts? -Original Message- From: Peter Crowther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday 25 May 2005 17:15 To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DNS Request distribution and TCP NAT distribution For Tomcat Cluster From: John MccLain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) for DNS Request Distribution - I dont understand. The browser sends a URL to the DNS, the DNS responds back with an IP address. But what if at that IP address, you have a web server listening on port 80? The browser talks to that Web server. If Tomcat is at that address also, Tomcat would have to listen on another port. Can the DNS distribute back to the browser the IP Address AND the Tomcat port so the browser connects to Tomcat on a non port 80 port? Only if your original URL uses the name:port notation - there is nothing in this scheme to prevent that. Also, is there a way to setup the DNS to Round Robin or check server load on the servers in the Tomcat cluster so it knows which Tomcat server ip:port to send back. No standard way afaik. Worse, downstream DNS servers may (often do) cache the returned IPs for up to a day despite any cache expiry you put on them. If (say) the AOL DNS servers all get the same IP address in their cache, all your AOL visitors will visit the same IP address. DNS is a very lumpy way of doing load balancing. OR does this whole thing imply that you have an IP for each web server (IIS) IP address yes; IIS depends on whether you want IIS or Tomcat at the business end of the cluster. and each web server is tied to each server in the Tomcat cluster via a jk2 redirector? If you wish to use that architecture, yes. 2)TCP NAT distribution - Does this mean that when the browser connects to the IP address, that that connection is intercepted and the request is distributed to a server in the Tomcat cluster? Yes. If this is the case, then what does the interception? Generically, a router that has this capability. It's that router that also does the NATing. Many mid- to high-end hardware routers and some software routing packages can do this. and how do you configure that thing to use a specific algorithm (server load, Round Robin, etc..) to choose which server to forward the request to? That is router-specific. There is no standard (afaik) for the servers to return load information, so you're stuck with proprietary solutions *or* the router doesn't load-balance. can it forward to an IP:PORT or does it have to forward to an IP That is router-specific. Given that the capability typically exists on mid- to high-end routers, most will also have the capability to change the internal port that is in use. - Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] - distribution graph of tomcat results
I generated a combined graph of the response time for tomcat 5.5.4 in client mode. http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/combined_graph.png thought some people might find it interesting. the graphs were generated by Jmeter. peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Binary distribution for Linux?
Is there a binary distribution for Linux (ie a Windows Installer-type interface)? Or do I have to build it myself? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Binary distribution for Linux?
There is a binary distribution, only thing you have to do is unpack it. -Original Message- From: Jérôme Duval [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. august 2004 14:53 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: Binary distribution for Linux? Is there a binary distribution for Linux (ie a Windows Installer-type interface)? Or do I have to build it myself? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Binary distribution for Linux?
Please see the download page from tomcat. Tomcat is written in java, so the windows distribution works in linux too. There are different shell scripts to run for each platform. google.com is free for commercial or individual use check it out - Original Message - From: Jérôme Duval To: 'Tomcat Users List' Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 15:53 Subject: Binary distribution for Linux? Is there a binary distribution for Linux (ie a Windows Installer-type interface)? Or do I have to build it myself? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Binary distribution for Linux?
Hi, You can also check out JPackage.org for some Linux RPM packages, if that's your cup of tea. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Viorel Dragomir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:01 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Binary distribution for Linux? Please see the download page from tomcat. Tomcat is written in java, so the windows distribution works in linux too. There are different shell scripts to run for each platform. google.com is free for commercial or individual use check it out - Original Message - From: Jérôme Duval To: 'Tomcat Users List' Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 15:53 Subject: Binary distribution for Linux? Is there a binary distribution for Linux (ie a Windows Installer-type interface)? Or do I have to build it myself? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OffTopic - distribution graph for JMeter
For those who use JMeter to load test Tomcat, now there's a distribution graph for JMeter. I just checked it in and it should be in the nightly build. peter __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Distribution
Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks
RE: Linux Distribution
Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. Wade -Original Message- From: Laurent Michenaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Distribution Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Linux Distribution
On 11/04/2003 01:43 PM Wade Chandler wrote: Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. That's the first time I've seen anyone say anything good about RedHat for a while. I've heard some horror stories about RedHat from people working for RedHat so hearing the other side of the coin is interesting. What about this: http://archive.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/02/19/010219oppetreley.xml He says SuSE and all the others need to consolidate a linux standard, and he also doesn't say anything good about RedHat, he makes them sound like Microsoft. Adam -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.12 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Linux Distribution
Well I didn't see where he made them sound like MS, they have given too much to the open source community for anyone to label them that way. I guess either you agree with a standard or you don't. There is United Linux for enterprise with SuSE, Turbo Linux, another distro (I can't remember their name), and go figure (SCO...??? They need to go away). I think RH, SuSE, and the others need to come together and support LSB and keep extending that, but hey they are Linux regardless, but they aren't doing themselves any favors by not standardizing. The one thing they should not want is the Unix wars all over again. Losing battle. I would use Debian more if I could get more binary packages precompiled for it. Takes too much time to compile everything (but anyways). I think RH is a good company. They have devoted plenty of man power to Linux, and no one can argue with that. They have a completely free version, then they have the version that keeps them alive. SuSE and others have done the same. They have all fixed bugs in different projects and contributed. As for the article, it's almost 2 years old if you can go by the dates in the url. That would be about right per the comment about SuSE laying off employees in the US. They are Germany based, so that would make sense to me. Reign in their efforts to provide a better product. They seem to be soaring away now days (doing well). RH seems to be doing the same if you look at their revenues. Anyways, this is the Tomcat list, so I wouldn't want to get into a large debate on the list. Those are just some observations. The distros have their own lists for these types of discussions. I think they all have their place, but like everything you are always going to have a few out shine the others. It's one thing you can rely on, for right or wrong. Wade -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:54 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] Linux Distribution On 11/04/2003 01:43 PM Wade Chandler wrote: Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. That's the first time I've seen anyone say anything good about RedHat for a while. I've heard some horror stories about RedHat from people working for RedHat so hearing the other side of the coin is interesting. What about this: http://archive.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/02/19/010219oppetreley.x ml He says SuSE and all the others need to consolidate a linux standard, and he also doesn't say anything good about RedHat, he makes them sound like Microsoft. Adam -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.12 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Distribution
Will they still give out patches promptly for fedora? I doubt it though How's freeBSD or openBSD? -Original Message- From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 4, 2003 5:44 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. Wade -Original Message- From: Laurent Michenaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Distribution Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Distribution
There is always Debian. One of the reasons I switched to Debian was how easy it is to stay current with patches. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:00 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Will they still give out patches promptly for fedora? I doubt it though How's freeBSD or openBSD? -Original Message- From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 4, 2003 5:44 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. Wade -Original Message- From: Laurent Michenaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Distribution Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux Distribution
So some how since they are more open source means that Fedora will suck..? Hmmm. Does tomcat suck? Nope. Does Apache suck? nope. What about Castor from Exolab? Nope. That's been my point and I'm sticking to it. What about many other open source projects? What about Netbeans? I can't see the argument for how the Fedora project vs. RH8 or 9 methodology equates to lack of patches, poor work, and an overall bad experience. How about Debian? It is in the same type of arena as Fedora. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are the same type of projects. Check out http://fedora.redhat.com. They have release cycles like most good projects. They have nice sub projects. Leads for the different areas. Seems like a good layout. Am I missing something here? I don't know. But, lets go to the red hat list for this one. We've been having this debate for the past couple of months on that list. Anyways, that's my point. I think I've rambled on long enough. I like RH, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and a few others. I think RH rocks. Looking forward to Fedora. :-) Wade -Original Message- From: John Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Linux Distribution There is always Debian. One of the reasons I switched to Debian was how easy it is to stay current with patches. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:00 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Will they still give out patches promptly for fedora? I doubt it though How's freeBSD or openBSD? -Original Message- From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 4, 2003 5:44 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. Wade -Original Message- From: Laurent Michenaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Distribution Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, We are independent consultants currently undertaking a study of satisfaction among end-users of Open Source Software, notably Tomcat, for a company which has asked us for recommendations in terms of deploying policy for such systems. I was hoping to set up a quick (5 minute) telephone interview with yourself or the appropriate person to discuss your experience with this product to date. Please feel free to telephone me anytime, or reply to this e-mail indicating an appropriate time/person for me to recall. Thanks for your gracious attention to this request! Best regards, Tracy Tracy Saward Fleetward Group 85 Maskell Street St Heliers Auckland New Zealand Tel: 64 9 575 1626 Fax: 64 9 585 0939 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:21 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Linux Distribution So some how since they are more open source means that Fedora will suck..? Hmmm. Does tomcat suck? Nope. Does Apache suck? nope. What about Castor from Exolab? Nope. That's been my point and I'm sticking to it. What about many other open source projects? What about Netbeans? I can't see the argument for how the Fedora project vs. RH8 or 9 methodology equates to lack of patches, poor work, and an overall bad experience. How about Debian? It is in the same type of arena as Fedora. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are the same type of projects. Check out http://fedora.redhat.com. They have release cycles like most good projects. They have nice sub projects. Leads for the different areas. Seems like a good layout. Am I missing something here? I don't know. But, lets go to the red hat list for this one. We've been having this debate for the past couple of months on that list. Anyways, that's my point. I think I've rambled on long enough. I like RH, SuSE, Slackware, Debian, and a few others. I think RH rocks. Looking forward to Fedora. :-) Wade -Original Message- From: John Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Linux Distribution There is always Debian. One of the reasons I switched to Debian was how easy it is to stay current with patches. -Original Message- From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:00 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Will they still give out patches promptly for fedora? I doubt it though How's freeBSD or openBSD? -Original Message- From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 4, 2003 5:44 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Linux Distribution Actually Red Hat isn't just dropping their free distro. They are moving to a model closer to the model you see right here. http://fedora.redhat.com Why not just use that? You are used to the Red Hat setup (I guess). SuSE is a good distro. You could also use Debian, but you'll find Red Hat and SuSE more commercially supported. Depends on what you need I guess. You can still download Fedora for free (all ISO's). Their new model is a good thing. Red Hat developers working with the rest of the open source community. Awesome. They're more open. Wade -Original Message- From: Laurent Michenaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Distribution Hi, We are actually using the RedHat Linux Distribution for our developpment environnment. Redhat doesn't offer anymore free patches for Redhat anterior to version 9. Free Patches for Redhat 9.0 will stop on 30 avril. We are thinking about choosing another distribution. What distribution do u use actually and which one would u choose instead of Redhat ? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
off-topicI have a Folder C:\Programme and a Folder C:\Program Files on my windows system, just because some installers are not programmed correctly./off-topic. The point is, i can do what i like with my personal system. But i am working together with colleagues and clients, i might use several systems (FreeBSD, SuSE, Mandrake, Debian...) that members of my computer club (http://www.hmh-ev.de) have set up. And all people can do what they like on their systems. Having an official *recommendation*, just that, would make life much easier than it is now. Yes, standards make life easier. Hayo Jason Bainbridge schrieb: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:09, Hayo Schmidt wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. I hate statements like that... What about the fact that one of the first options within just about any Windows based installset is to select the location you wish to install to? I've seen C:\Program Files\, D:\Program Files and even on E:... So it's a quirk of human nature not of any O/S related problem, different people like different things so they do things differently. :) At least on Linux normal users are restricted to their Home directory so they can't muck up the actual filesystem without knowing at least a little about what they are doing... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
That's why the best practice is to set CATALINA_HOME and JAVA_HOME and be done with it. The only time your multiple environments (many operating systems) cause problems is if developers are lazy and hardcode paths into their properties and source code. If you don't hardcode paths, you can refer to the environment variables that all the documentation says to use: CATALINA_HOME for the location of Tomcat, and JAVA_HOME for the location of the JDK. Since the servlet specification is written to encourage web-app portability, properly using relative paths and properly using environment variables such as CATALINA_HOME is the best practice, since all files that the web application needs will either be under the Host's docBase or in some other location reachable by Tomcat's ClassLoader. Simple. John On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:07:42 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off-topicI have a Folder C:\Programme and a Folder C:\Program Files on my windows system, just because some installers are not programmed correctly./off-topic. The point is, i can do what i like with my personal system. But i am working together with colleagues and clients, i might use several systems (FreeBSD, SuSE, Mandrake, Debian...) that members of my computer club (http://www.hmh-ev.de) have set up. And all people can do what they like on their systems. Having an official *recommendation*, just that, would make life much easier than it is now. Yes, standards make life easier. Hayo Jason Bainbridge schrieb: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:09, Hayo Schmidt wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. I hate statements like that... What about the fact that one of the first options within just about any Windows based installset is to select the location you wish to install to? I've seen C:\Program Files\, D:\Program Files and even on E:... So it's a quirk of human nature not of any O/S related problem, different people like different things so they do things differently. :) At least on Linux normal users are restricted to their Home directory so they can't muck up the actual filesystem without knowing at least a little about what they are doing... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
Oops...that should be Context's docBase. John On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:28:45 -0400, John Turner tomcat- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why the best practice is to set CATALINA_HOME and JAVA_HOME and be done with it. The only time your multiple environments (many operating systems) cause problems is if developers are lazy and hardcode paths into their properties and source code. If you don't hardcode paths, you can refer to the environment variables that all the documentation says to use: CATALINA_HOME for the location of Tomcat, and JAVA_HOME for the location of the JDK. Since the servlet specification is written to encourage web-app portability, properly using relative paths and properly using environment variables such as CATALINA_HOME is the best practice, since all files that the web application needs will either be under the Host's docBase or in some other location reachable by Tomcat's ClassLoader. Simple. John On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:07:42 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off-topicI have a Folder C:\Programme and a Folder C:\Program Files on my windows system, just because some installers are not programmed correctly./off-topic. The point is, i can do what i like with my personal system. But i am working together with colleagues and clients, i might use several systems (FreeBSD, SuSE, Mandrake, Debian...) that members of my computer club (http://www.hmh-ev.de) have set up. And all people can do what they like on their systems. Having an official *recommendation*, just that, would make life much easier than it is now. Yes, standards make life easier. Hayo Jason Bainbridge schrieb: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:09, Hayo Schmidt wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. I hate statements like that... What about the fact that one of the first options within just about any Windows based installset is to select the location you wish to install to? I've seen C:\Program Files\, D:\Program Files and even on E:... So it's a quirk of human nature not of any O/S related problem, different people like different things so they do things differently. :) At least on Linux normal users are restricted to their Home directory so they can't muck up the actual filesystem without knowing at least a little about what they are doing... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. Hayo John Turner schrieb: I don't think there is an official recommendation. I put anything unrelated to the official OS distribution under /usr/local, but that's me. John On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:25:14 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Zanella schrieb: [...] This sets CATALINA_HOME correctly according to the current installation of tomcat4 under /var/tomcat4 (whose correctness according to FHS I am not yet convinced of). What's the official recommendation? The RedHat rpm, which BTW is not marked as RedHat in jakarta download area, installs in /var/tomcat4. UnitedLinux 1.0 installs in /opt/jakarta/tomcat. I thought it would be a good idea to install in /usr/java/tomcat. Hayo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:09, Hayo Schmidt wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. I hate statements like that... What about the fact that one of the first options within just about any Windows based installset is to select the location you wish to install to? I've seen C:\Program Files\, D:\Program Files and even on E:... So it's a quirk of human nature not of any O/S related problem, different people like different things so they do things differently. :) At least on Linux normal users are restricted to their Home directory so they can't muck up the actual filesystem without knowing at least a little about what they are doing... -- Jason Bainbridge http://jblinux.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
Jason Bainbridge wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:09, Hayo Schmidt wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. It's more a problem of people not documenting stuff. The more you deviate from the accepted standard the more you have to document. If there are no accepted standards you have to document even more. I'm not sure Linux or windows are better or worse than each other in this respect. In both cases I've met software that grumbled about not being installed the way it expected which is very annoying. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, BMJ Knowledge, +44 (0)20 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
Your comment is incorrect and illogical. Every UNIX or Linux system on and off the planet has the capability to have a directory called /usr/local. Where you put your distribution is up to you. That's the beauty of open source, you can do what you like. If you are using a specific package distribution such as a RPM, then the RPM will put the files where they need to go and your question is moot. John On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:09:00 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The different locations make it difficult to understand systems other people have set up. And that wastes time. This obviously is a general problem of Linux. Hayo John Turner schrieb: I don't think there is an official recommendation. I put anything unrelated to the official OS distribution under /usr/local, but that's me. John On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:25:14 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Zanella schrieb: [...] This sets CATALINA_HOME correctly according to the current installation of tomcat4 under /var/tomcat4 (whose correctness according to FHS I am not yet convinced of). What's the official recommendation? The RedHat rpm, which BTW is not marked as RedHat in jakarta download area, installs in /var/tomcat4. UnitedLinux 1.0 installs in /opt/jakarta/tomcat. I thought it would be a good idea to install in /usr/java/tomcat. Hayo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
Neil Zanella schrieb: [...] This sets CATALINA_HOME correctly according to the current installation of tomcat4 under /var/tomcat4 (whose correctness according to FHS I am not yet convinced of). What's the official recommendation? The RedHat rpm, which BTW is not marked as RedHat in jakarta download area, installs in /var/tomcat4. UnitedLinux 1.0 installs in /opt/jakarta/tomcat. I thought it would be a good idea to install in /usr/java/tomcat. Hayo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
I don't think there is an official recommendation. I put anything unrelated to the official OS distribution under /usr/local, but that's me. John On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:25:14 +0200, Hayo Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Zanella schrieb: [...] This sets CATALINA_HOME correctly according to the current installation of tomcat4 under /var/tomcat4 (whose correctness according to FHS I am not yet convinced of). What's the official recommendation? The RedHat rpm, which BTW is not marked as RedHat in jakarta download area, installs in /var/tomcat4. UnitedLinux 1.0 installs in /opt/jakarta/tomcat. I thought it would be a good idea to install in /usr/java/tomcat. Hayo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system
I put Tomcat in the same place where Apache likes to go: /usr/local. I don't make symbolic links anywhere because they are a pain to clean up later and I like everything to be in one place. But that may just be because I'm from a Windows background where everything (should go)goes in /Program Files. _ Atreya Basu Developer, Greenfield Research Inc. e-mail: atreya (at) greenfieldresearch (dot) ca -Original Message- From: Hayo Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 23, 2003 10:25 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Where to place the tomcat distribution in file system Neil Zanella schrieb: [...] This sets CATALINA_HOME correctly according to the current installation of tomcat4 under /var/tomcat4 (whose correctness according to FHS I am not yet convinced of). What's the official recommendation? The RedHat rpm, which BTW is not marked as RedHat in jakarta download area, installs in /var/tomcat4. UnitedLinux 1.0 installs in /opt/jakarta/tomcat. I thought it would be a good idea to install in /usr/java/tomcat. Hayo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest distribution of coyote connector
Hi All, Where do I get the latest distribution of coyote connector. http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/coyote/release/ has only old releases. That is what is not bundled with 4.1.18. If I just the take necessary jars from 4.1.18(commons-logging.jar tomcat-coyote.jar tomcat-http11.jar tomcat-jk2.jar tomcat-util.jar ) for the coyote connector and move it to 4.0.4 - will it work? Please advise. Thanx Ganesh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install Tomcat - Apache on Debian distribution
Hi all again, Sorry because maybe I didn't was very accurate on my previous email. The fact is that I have a computer running a Debian 3.0 distribution of Linux. The following software is installed: apache 1.3.26 java-common libregexp-java libservlet2.3-java libxerces2-java libtomcat4-java tomcat4 tomcat4-webapps libapache-mod-jk and the SUN J2sdk 1.3.26 By now, Apache is up un running, so Tomcat is, but as stand-alone web server, using a different port. I need to integrate Tomcat within Apache in order to serve requests using Apache as HTTP server. I have never configured tomcat to run with Apache from scratch. Does anyone Knows where can I find some instructions that could help on this? Thank you very much in advance. Manuel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to install Tomcat - Apache on Debian distribution
I have HOWTOs here: http://www.johnturner.com/howto I don't use Debian, but the Solaris/Red Hat HOWTO may be of some use to you. Basically, if you have everything running, you will need a mod_jk.so or mod_jk2.so for your Apache version, a properties file (or files in the case of JK2), and a JK/JK2 compatible Connector configured in server.xml (there is one already there by default on port 8009, most people just use that one). There are also guides here: http://www.galatea.com/flashguides John -Original Message- From: Manuel Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:36 AM To: tomcat-user Subject: How to install Tomcat - Apache on Debian distribution Hi all again, Sorry because maybe I didn't was very accurate on my previous email. The fact is that I have a computer running a Debian 3.0 distribution of Linux. The following software is installed: apache 1.3.26 java-common libregexp-java libservlet2.3-java libxerces2-java libtomcat4-java tomcat4 tomcat4-webapps libapache-mod-jk and the SUN J2sdk 1.3.26 By now, Apache is up un running, so Tomcat is, but as stand-alone web server, using a different port. I need to integrate Tomcat within Apache in order to serve requests using Apache as HTTP server. I have never configured tomcat to run with Apache from scratch. Does anyone Knows where can I find some instructions that could help on this? Thank you very much in advance. Manuel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Binary Distribution of Tomcat
Where can I find a binary distribution of Tomcat 4.0. The file jakarta-tomcat-4.0-MMDD.zip is not listed in the following url http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/nightly/ Thanks AP __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Binary Distribution of Tomcat
Hi, if you're looking for 4.0.6, go to http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat- 4.0/release/v4.0.6/bin/ Andreas On 1 Jan 2003 at 9:36, Ankit Patel wrote: Where can I find a binary distribution of Tomcat 4.0. The file jakarta-tomcat-4.0-MMDD.zip is not listed in the following url http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/nightly/ Thanks AP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do I set up a information distribution list
Has anyone used Apache James? I have a bunch of email address that I need to send emails, regularly. Something like a mailing list. More specifically a one way mailing list (or information dissemination list). The email should be customized with the person's name, etc. The person's details could either be stored in a database (or in an excel spreadsheet). I suppose I'd need to write an application to support the customized email. Or maybe not if someone has better ideas. Please remember the email text could change for every newsletter. I think I've a general idea (let me know if this is how it should be done): An account manager uses a webpage to write up the body. And uses home-grown tags at certain places in the body (such as person_name, where the recepient's name ought to appear). This goes to the webserver which parses the email, queries the DB, plugs in the required info, and then sends out the email to the bunch of email address. Ofcourse, the marketing dept, or whoever writes up the emails ought to know the tag names. Has anyone done this? If someone could provide some tips or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks RS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
R: how do I set up a information distribution list
Hi, I've a suggestion: to make easy for the account manager to fill the body with right tags without remembering them, you could use in your HTML page a textarea with some buttons that, in their onClick event manager, call a JavaScript function that appends the tag string to the area-field value. -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: martedì 25 giugno 2002 15.59 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: how do I set up a information distribution list Has anyone used Apache James? I have a bunch of email address that I need to send emails, regularly. Something like a mailing list. More specifically a one way mailing list (or information dissemination list). The email should be customized with the person's name, etc. The person's details could either be stored in a database (or in an excel spreadsheet). I suppose I'd need to write an application to support the customized email. Or maybe not if someone has better ideas. Please remember the email text could change for every newsletter. I think I've a general idea (let me know if this is how it should be done): An account manager uses a webpage to write up the body. And uses home-grown tags at certain places in the body (such as person_name, where the recepient's name ought to appear). This goes to the webserver which parses the email, queries the DB, plugs in the required info, and then sends out the email to the bunch of email address. Ofcourse, the marketing dept, or whoever writes up the emails ought to know the tag names. Has anyone done this? If someone could provide some tips or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks RS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Disclaimer - This email and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents, by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by email and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: R: how do I set up a information distribution list
Thanks for the tip. I'll make a note of that. I was hoping someone had some experience in setting up a mailing list. Will the person who setup this list please step forward :-) Thanks RS Alessio Fiore [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/25/2002 09:16:51 AM Please respond to Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:R: how do I set up a information distribution list Hi, I've a suggestion: to make easy for the account manager to fill the body with right tags without remembering them, you could use in your HTML page a textarea with some buttons that, in their onClick event manager, call a JavaScript function that appends the tag string to the area-field value. -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Inviato: martedì 25 giugno 2002 15.59 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: how do I set up a information distribution list Has anyone used Apache James? I have a bunch of email address that I need to send emails, regularly. Something like a mailing list. More specifically a one way mailing list (or information dissemination list). The email should be customized with the person's name, etc. The person's details could either be stored in a database (or in an excel spreadsheet). I suppose I'd need to write an application to support the customized email. Or maybe not if someone has better ideas. Please remember the email text could change for every newsletter. I think I've a general idea (let me know if this is how it should be done): An account manager uses a webpage to write up the body. And uses home-grown tags at certain places in the body (such as person_name, where the recepient's name ought to appear). This goes to the webserver which parses the email, queries the DB, plugs in the required info, and then sends out the email to the bunch of email address. Ofcourse, the marketing dept, or whoever writes up the emails ought to know the tag names. Has anyone done this? If someone could provide some tips or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks RS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Disclaimer - This email and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents, by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by email and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?
Note: This is a slightly reworded posting from yesterday. I got no response, and really wanted one. I'm reposting because I'm assuming nobody that knew saw it - and that it's so far down in the stack now they will not see it. Hi - just curious if there would be no more RPM distributions past 4.0.3. That's the last version I see one for. I rather like the RPMs myself and would like to see them continue. Did someone accidentally comment out that part of the Ant script? =) I certainly hope you all haven't decided to no longer build RPM distributions =( Anyone know what is up? Thanks! Eddie
RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?
Don't take me as a definitive source as I'm not a commiter (or even a developer) but I believe there is work to make the RPMs for tomcat4 more FHS compliant. There is also some debate as to how FHS compliance should be achieved (proper directory structure, symlinking in post-install, etc.). This is not a small task, so the RPMs may be a bit delayed as compared to how quickly they were posted in the past. And I do not believe the RPMs are built via the same build tasks that produce the other platform binaries, although that seems like a worthwhile goal to move towards if possible. Rest assured though that tomcat RPMs have not been dropped from the plans as far as I've seen, and if they have been I'll start building some. :-) Jason -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:01 PM To: Tomcat Users Mailing List Subject: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go? Note: This is a slightly reworded posting from yesterday. I got no response, and really wanted one. I'm reposting because I'm assuming nobody that knew saw it - and that it's so far down in the stack now they will not see it. Hi - just curious if there would be no more RPM distributions past 4.0.3. That's the last version I see one for. I rather like the RPMs myself and would like to see them continue. Did someone accidentally comment out that part of the Ant script? =) I certainly hope you all haven't decided to no longer build RPM distributions =( Anyone know what is up? Thanks! Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?
Don't take me as a definitive source as I'm not a commiter (or even a developer) but I believe there is work to make the RPMs for tomcat4 more FHS compliant. There is also some debate as to how FHS compliance should be achieved (proper directory structure, symlinking in post-install, etc.). This is not a small task, so the RPMs may be a bit delayed as compared to how quickly they were posted in the past. And I do not believe the RPMs are built via the same build tasks that produce the other platform binaries, although that seems like a worthwhile goal to move towards if possible. Rest assured though that tomcat RPMs have not been dropped from the plans as far as I've seen, and if they have been I'll start building some. :-) Jason I'm working on tomcat 4.0.4 rpms, which need much more externals rpms (many from commons). That's why it take a little more times than expected -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:01 PM To: Tomcat Users Mailing List Subject: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go? Note: This is a slightly reworded posting from yesterday. I got no response, and really wanted one. I'm reposting because I'm assuming nobody that knew saw it - and that it's so far down in the stack now they will not see it. Hi - just curious if there would be no more RPM distributions past 4.0.3. That's the last version I see one for. I rather like the RPMs myself and would like to see them continue. Did someone accidentally comment out that part of the Ant script? =) I certainly hope you all haven't decided to no longer build RPM distributions =( Anyone know what is up? Thanks! Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?
Thank you for the update =) I'm guessing the 4.1.x series won't start having RPM builds until they reach a full release - is that assumpiton correct? Thanks! Eddie - Original Message - From: GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Corley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go? I'm working on tomcat 4.0.4 rpms, which need much more externals rpms (many from commons). That's why it take a little more times than expected -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incomplete RPM Tomcat Distribution?
Folks-- I've recently been struggling with Tomcat's default connection pool mechanism as have many people of late. What I discovered was this: The binary tarball distribution of Tomcat 4.0.3 contains the necessary jars (tyrex, the tyrex hooks in naming-factory.jar, a later version of jdbc optional package, etc). I was able to move my application to this version of Tomcat and with a few tweaks (ie, moving my jdbc libs from tomcat's lib directory to its common/lib directory so that tomcat itself could access them) I got connection pooling working as per the JNDI-HowTo on the jakarta site. HOWEVER: The RPM distribution of Tomcat 4 does not contain any of the classes and jars necessary to get this working. Some questions: Is there a good reason for this? (IE, is there some sort of licensing issue with tyrex that prevents it being distributed?) Is this the place to talk about packaging issues or should I try over at the tomcat-developers list? (I'd rather speak to a larger audience than just Henri Gomez, the packager.) Are there plans to fix this? I'm faced with this bizarre situation: I work in an environment in which we must have our code packaged in RPMS. It would be so much nicer if we could use already packaged software maintained by others and then, when we install our own apps, we can just tweak these standard, known configurations. In other words, really leveraging open source for all it's worth. ;) But because of this connection pool stuff, I have to either 1) use a third party lib (and poolman throws a concurrancy exception when I close connections after a transaction against postgres) and this a third party configuration method, or 2) have my application install RPM replace half the libs the standard Tomcat RPM installs. I'm not even sure this is possible as replacing another RPM's files might be considered a conflict. WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO is make the Tomcat 4.X RPM better. Another interesting wrinkle is that the Tomcat source distribution doesn't contain the RPM spec file, nor does it contain half the libraries it depends on. You have to download them as per the build instructions. So, I'm not sure how to submit a patch against anything to get what I need. Suggestions? Should I create my own RPM package for tomcat for private use? Regardless, I'd like to see an RPM distribution that enables connection pooling. Keith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Incomplete RPM Tomcat Distribution?
Keith, You may get some discussion going on this list but I think this may be one you want to transfer to tomcat-dev. My suspicion is that the tyrex packages are available either as a separate package (from the tyrex distributors or http://www.jpackage.org/) or indeed there is some licensing issue. I haven't looked at the RPM of tomcat that you're referencing, but I do know that the 4.0.4b2 RPMs had a spec file in them, as I have rebuilt them and submitted patches back to Henri on a couple of items. If the spec file is missing from the 4.0.3 RPMs, it is an oversight that can be easily corrected and probably will be if you mention it to him. Hope this helps, Jason -Original Message- From: Keith Irwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Fri 5/24/2002 12:59 PM To: Tomcat Users List Cc: Subject:Incomplete RPM Tomcat Distribution? Folks-- I've recently been struggling with Tomcat's default connection pool mechanism as have many people of late. What I discovered was this: The binary tarball distribution of Tomcat 4.0.3 contains the necessary jars (tyrex, the tyrex hooks in naming-factory.jar, a later version of jdbc optional package, etc). I was able to move my application to this version of Tomcat and with a few tweaks (ie, moving my jdbc libs from tomcat's lib directory to its common/lib directory so that tomcat itself could access them) I got connection pooling working as per the JNDI-HowTo on the jakarta site. HOWEVER: The RPM distribution of Tomcat 4 does not contain any of the classes and jars necessary to get this working. Some questions: Is there a good reason for this? (IE, is there some sort of licensing issue with tyrex that prevents it being distributed?) Is this the place to talk about packaging issues or should I try over at the tomcat-developers list? (I'd rather speak to a larger audience than just Henri Gomez, the packager.) Are there plans to fix this? I'm faced with this bizarre situation: I work in an environment in which we must have our code packaged in RPMS. It would be so much nicer if we could use already packaged software maintained by others and then, when we install our own apps, we can just tweak these standard, known configurations. In other words, really leveraging open source for all it's worth. ;) But because of this connection pool stuff, I have to either 1) use a third party lib (and poolman throws a concurrancy exception when I close connections after a transaction against postgres) and this a third party configuration method, or 2) have my application install RPM replace half the libs the standard Tomcat RPM installs. I'm not even sure this is possible as replacing another RPM's files might be considered a conflict. WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO is make the Tomcat 4.X RPM better. Another interesting wrinkle is that the Tomcat source distribution doesn't contain the RPM spec file, nor does it contain half the libraries it depends on. You have to download them as per the build instructions. So, I'm not sure how to submit a patch against anything to get what I need. Suggestions? Should I create my own RPM package for tomcat for private use? Regardless, I'd like to see an RPM distribution that enables connection pooling. Keith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat Description: application/ms-tnef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
where is the Servlet API Binary Distribution
Hello,
I am very new to tomcat so please forgive me if these are stupid questions.
I need to evaluate some software called Citrix NFUSE
This software requires Tomcat, I would like to add tomcat to apache.
Reading the tomcat site I am unsure which version of tomcat I should be using
? 4.0.3 or 3.3.1 ?
3.3.1 compiles perfectly from source, however 4.0.3 dies during compilation
with the error;
/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3-src/catalina/build.xml:489: Could not find file
/hold/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3-src/catalina/${servlet.jar} to copy.
I believe this is because I have not installed the the Servlet API Binary
Distribution ?, however I can not find a stable version ?
The documention with 4.0.3 says I should download from
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-servletapi-4/nightly/
It would appear these are development files, where can I locate a stable
version ? (does one exist?)
With Thanks,
Steve.
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Re: where is the Servlet API Binary Distribution
Steve: The Servlet API does not have a nightly build, in the sense that I don't think it changes every night. All the files in the directory you mentiones have the same size. It seems like they just get built every night when the tomcat build is done. We have used these to successfully build Tomcat 4.0. Pick the latest one and try it. Anyone else have any comments on this ? -prabhakar I believe this is because I have not installed the the Servlet API Binary Distribution ?, however I can not find a stable version ? The documention with 4.0.3 says I should download from http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-servletapi-4/nightly/ It would appear these are development files, where can I locate a stable version ? (does one exist?) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the Servlet API Binary Distribution
On Thursday 16 May 2002 12:39, you wrote: The Servlet API does not have a nightly build, in the sense that I don't think it changes every night. All the files in the directory you mentiones have the same size. It seems like they just get built every night when the tomcat build is done. We have used these to successfully build Tomcat 4.0. Pick the latest one and try it. Anyone else have any comments on this ? According to the source downloads page on the Jakarta site (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.html) Automated Nightly Snapshots are created every N hours directly from the active CVS repository. Is this not the case ? Steve. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the Servlet API Binary Distribution
They are built every night. I just don't think there are any changes to the underlying API. If you get any of those archives, they are probably just the same. The API is directly tied to the Java Servlet spec, so it doesn't change that frequently. -prabhakar According to the source downloads page on the Jakarta site (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.html) Automated Nightly Snapshots are created every N hours directly from the active CVS repository. Is this not the case ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mod_jk and load distribution among tomcat servers
Hi, I am using two tomcat severs load balanced by mod_jk(with apache). The load factor (as specified in the workers.properties) for the both the tomcat servers are the equal. To test whether the load is being distributed equally, I sent 100 requests to the apache server. The servlet code under both tomcat being identical, I found that When the servlet to which the request is being sent responds quickly (less than few seconds), the number of request sent to both tomcat1 and tomcat2 were equal (50 requests each). When the servlet take a longer time (say 3 minutes) to respond, the request distribution is not so equal (3 request for one server and 97 for the other). I did a Thread.sleep(1000*60*3) to delay the response. Is there any way I can make the load balancer distribute the load equally among the servers? Thank you, viswa. -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unable to install tomact distribution on HP - Please help
I downloaded the 'jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3.tar.gz' from 'jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.3/bin/' website. On a unix box running HP-UX 11, as root, I uncompressed it in /tmp directory. To install it, I ran root@host:/opt tar -xvf /tmp/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3.tar . After a while the prompt comes back. However, no directories are created in /opt to indicate the stuff from the .tar file are extracted. When I look at the contents of the tar file, I see all the files have the permissions set as follows. rw-r--r-- 0/0 What am I missing for the tar file contents to be not extracted ? Any help will be very much appreciated. Thanks Raj -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution of production systems??
I have an application that is ready to ship and uses basically servlets and JSPs. Our preferred system of choice is Tomcat/Apache, but there might be scenarios where customers would like to choose Websphere or BEA or . In this case we are considering packaging the application as a .war file and sending this accross. I tried the .war file generated with BEA yesterday and it did not work , but the same war file worked with Websphere Studio. So my question is what are the distribution methods that developers out there use to distribute their web applications. 2nd question is what are EAR files and how do they differ from WAR files. Thanks in advance. TP -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Distribution of production systems??
Hi, JARs and WARs and EARs, oh my ;) A WebApplicationArchive (WAR) contains the files for a web application, e.g. servlets, JSPs, static files (html, images, libraries, etc.) and so on, as well as that web application's deployment descriptor (web.xml). An EAR typically contains more than a WAR in that it contains EJBs and their libraries, information, descriptors, etc. It may also contain other, server-specific deployment details. It is common for an EAR file to contain one or more WAR files. An EAR file will have the application descriptor, application.xml. Personally, I use Ant's WAR and EAR tasks to create those files. I'm sure other people have their favorites, as some IDEs have built-in support for this. Hope this helps, Yoav -Original Message- From: Brown Bay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:21 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Distribution of production systems?? I have an application that is ready to ship and uses basically servlets and JSPs. Our preferred system of choice is Tomcat/Apache, but there might be scenarios where customers would like to choose Websphere or BEA or . In this case we are considering packaging the application as a .war file and sending this accross. I tried the .war file generated with BEA yesterday and it did not work , but the same war file worked with Websphere Studio. So my question is what are the distribution methods that developers out there use to distribute their web applications. 2nd question is what are EAR files and how do they differ from WAR files. Thanks in advance. TP -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution of production systems??
Hello, Thanks for the reply. Thanks for the short explanation, I am assuming here that war is the way to go for me ;) (pardon the pun) So, that gets me to my second question, should a war created through ant or java's war utility be able to work on any application server (certified or not). because the .war i created worked on Tomcat and websphere out of the box, but did not work on weblogic. shouldnt a .war work on any application server? Please let me know your experiences. Thanks, Brown. - From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, JARs and WARs and EARs, oh my ;) A WebApplicationArchive (WAR) contains the files for a web application, e.g. servlets, JSPs, static files (html, images, libraries, etc.) and so on, as well as that web application's deployment descriptor (web.xml). An EAR typically contains more than a WAR in that it contains EJBs and their libraries, information, descriptors, etc. It may also contain other, server-specific deployment details. It is common for an EAR file to contain one or more WAR files. An EAR file will have the application descriptor, application.xml. Personally, I use Ant's WAR and EAR tasks to create those files. I'm sure other people have their favorites, as some IDEs have built-in support for this. Hope this helps, Yoav -Original Message- From: Brown Bay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:21 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Distribution of production systems?? I have an application that is ready to ship and uses basically servlets and JSPs. Our preferred system of choice is Tomcat/Apache, but there might be scenarios where customers would like to choose Websphere or BEA or . In this case we are considering packaging the application as a .war file and sending this accross. I tried the .war file generated with BEA yesterday and it did not work , but the same war file worked with Websphere Studio. So my question is what are the distribution methods that developers out there use to distribute their web applications. 2nd question is what are EAR files and how do they differ from WAR files. Thanks in advance. TP -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Loadbalancer problems in mod_jk from 4.0.2 TC distribution when using TC 3.3
Hi, I just ran into a problem with loadbalancing in mod_jk when using the version which comes with TC 4.0.2. I am currently using Tomcat 3.3 on Solaris 8 behind Apache 1.3.19 connectted via mod_jk 1.1.0 comming with TC 3.3. I built mod_jk.so from the 4.0.2 connector package and replaced my mod_jk.so (TC3.3 Version) with this one in apache/libexec (1.3.19). By just changing a link back and forth between the two versions, I tested our TC3.3 based application against the two versions of mod_jk. If this is not enough and I am missing something, please let me know. Otherwise exactly the same setup All works perfectly with the new mod_jk when I use normal ajp13 workers (one webapp), but fails when I use a loadbalancing worker pointing to another webapp on a different Tomcat instance. Note, We use the loadbalancer just for switching tomcats. Only one instance of the two loadbalanced Tomcats is active most of the time. (by changing the lbvalue) Here toe parts of my mod_jk.log. The initialisation phase (reading the workers seems identical) apachectl graceful.. mod_jk.log 4.0.2 distribution and 3.3 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (383)]: jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open, rule map size is 12 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (308)]: Into jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open, match rule /einsurance/=loadbalancer was added [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (170)]: Into jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_alloc [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (362)]: Into jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (332)]: Into jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open, exact rule /einsurance=loadbalancer was added ... (another 10 workers of type ajp13) here the initialisation: Loadbalancer loadbalances ajp13-01 and ajp13-02 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (395)]: Into jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open, there are 12 rules [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_uri_worker_map.c (409)]: jk_uri_worker_map_t::uri_worker_map_open, done [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (88)]: Into wc_open [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (222)]: Into build_worker_map, creating 8 workers [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (228)]: build_worker_map, creating worker loadbalancer [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (148)]: Into wc_create_worker [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (162)]: wc_create_worker, about to create instance loadbalancer of lb [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_lb_worker.c (540)]: Into lb_worker_factory [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (171)]: wc_create_worker, about to validate and init loadbalancer [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_lb_worker.c (411)]: Into jk_worker_t::validate [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (148)]: Into wc_create_worker [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (162)]: wc_create_worker, about to create instance ajp13-01 of ajp13 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp13_worker.c (108)]: Into ajp13_worker_factory [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (171)]: wc_create_worker, about to validate and init ajp13-01 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1174)]: Into jk_worker_t::validate [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1194)]: In jk_worker_t::validate for worker ajp13-01 contact is tomcathost:9009 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1222)]: Into jk_worker_t::init [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (187)]: wc_create_worker, done [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (187)]: wc_create_worker, done [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (148)]: Into wc_create_worker [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (162)]: wc_create_worker, about to create instance ajp13-02 of ajp13 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp13_worker.c (108)]: Into ajp13_worker_factory [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (171)]: wc_create_worker, about to validate and init ajp13-02 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1174)]: Into jk_worker_t::validate [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1194)]: In jk_worker_t::validate for worker ajp13-02 contact is tomcathost:9019 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp_common.c (1222)]: Into jk_worker_t::init [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (187)]: wc_create_worker, done [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (187)]: wc_create_worker, done [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (238)]: build_worker_map, removing old loadbalancer worker [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (228)]: build_worker_map, creating worker ajp12-01 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (148)]: Into wc_create_worker [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (162)]: wc_create_worker, about to create instance ajp12-01 of ajp12 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp12_worker.c (268)]: Into ajp12_worker_factory [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_worker.c (171)]: wc_create_worker, about to validate and init ajp12-01 [Tue Feb 12 15:26:45 2002] [jk_ajp12_worker.c (185)]: Into jk_worker_t
Re: No startup.sh in RPM Distribution of Tomcat 4.0.1 for Linux
IMHO, I don't think it's a good idea to make customizations like this. IMHO, all the distributions should contain the same files. Jon - Original Message - From: GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: RE: No startup.sh in RPM Distribution of Tomcat 4.0.1 for Linux Don't use the RPM to install this under Linux. Get the nightly tarball instead. And I thought this was going to be easy! ;-) -Original Message- From: Robert D. Morse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No startup.sh in RPM Distribution of Tomcat 4.0.1 for Linux The RPM download of Tomcat 4.0.1 (14-oct-2001) does not contain the startup.sh as described in the documentation. The RPM installs, but pointing to http://localhost:8080 produces nothing. What's up with this? Did you read the RPM changelog ? the http port has been changed from 8080 to 8180 to let tomcat 4.0 works together with tomcat 3.2 or 3.3 ! Also the startup.sh is not needed. Just use tomcat4 cmd instead .. Frankly do you find the name startup.sh is better than tomcat4 ? -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution/Licensing question
Jeff, I just noticed on Sun's Java web pages that as of the 10/17/2001 that javac and tools.jar are now redistributable. Here's a link to a page with this information: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/ - Original Message - From: Jeff Corliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Distribution/Licensing question Cool, I will check that out. Thanks! --- Brett M. Bergquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to redistributing the Java compiler. But, you could go the route that we did and use the IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely distributable provided that you show the proper notices and such. - Original Message - From: Jeff Corliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Distribution/Licensing question Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of RTFM (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel free to say so ... I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries and the intent is to sell this to multiple customers, each of whom will be designing their own JSPs using those tags. Now, since that means the JSPs will need to be compiled by Tomcat at least once at each customer's site, does this mean I need to actually distribute not only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)? If that is the case, does that mean I have to make an arrangement with Sun for licensing the redistribution of the JDK? Many thanks, Jeff __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution/Licensing question
Cool, I will check that out. Thanks! --- Brett M. Bergquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to redistributing the Java compiler. But, you could go the route that we did and use the IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely distributable provided that you show the proper notices and such. - Original Message - From: Jeff Corliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Distribution/Licensing question Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of RTFM (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel free to say so ... I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries and the intent is to sell this to multiple customers, each of whom will be designing their own JSPs using those tags. Now, since that means the JSPs will need to be compiled by Tomcat at least once at each customer's site, does this mean I need to actually distribute not only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)? If that is the case, does that mean I have to make an arrangement with Sun for licensing the redistribution of the JDK? Many thanks, Jeff __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Distribution/Licensing question
Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to redistributing the Java compiler. But, you could go the route that we did and use the IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely distributable provided that you show the proper notices and such. - Original Message - From: Jeff Corliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Distribution/Licensing question Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of RTFM (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel free to say so ... I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries and the intent is to sell this to multiple customers, each of whom will be designing their own JSPs using those tags. Now, since that means the JSPs will need to be compiled by Tomcat at least once at each customer's site, does this mean I need to actually distribute not only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)? If that is the case, does that mean I have to make an arrangement with Sun for licensing the redistribution of the JDK? Many thanks, Jeff __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: jasper directory missing in distribution
Just so you're aware, if you have a xerces parser (same or another version) in your webapp/WEB-INF/lib directory, the new ClassLoader configuration breaks Tomcat, generating a ClassCastException on the xerces DocumentBuilderFactory implementation when trying to start the JspServlet. In other words, it appears the change has broken Tomcat. I struggled for 4 days trying to get the 4.0.1 configuration with my web application to work with absolutely no success. I finally had to use a previous version with the old jasper directory and ClassLoader scheme to get Tomcat to even start up with my web application (silly me for trying to use an XML parser). I have logged this with the bug base but I don't believe anyone believes the problem exists. All I can say is that my system is up and working under the old directory structure / class loading scheme and it didn't work before. I've eliminated all the other variables I can find and it appears the new ClassLoading is the problem. Hope that helps the effort. I've temporarily unsubscribed from the Tomcat user list so please reply directly with further questions. -the llama -Original Message- From: craigmcc@localhost [mailto:craigmcc@localhost]On Behalf Of Craig R. McClanahan Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:30 PM To: Tomcat User List (E-mail); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: jasper directory missing in distribution On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Joel P. Worrall wrote: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:34:24 -0400 From: Joel P. Worrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat User List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: jasper directory missing in distribution Is it my imagination or is the jasper directory under CATALINA-HOME missing from the 4.0.1 distribution. I am still having an issue with the xerces parser, so I read the docs on using other XML parsers. The docs mention removing files from the jasper directory, but when I download the jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1.tar.gz, the jasper directory does not exist/is not included. Why? The switch to using Xerces as the standard parser eliminated the need for a separate jasper subdirectory and class loader. Jasper will use whatever parser is in common/lib or lib (which must be JAXP/1.1 compliant). Craig
Re: jasper directory missing in distribution
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Joel P. Worrall wrote: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:34:24 -0400 From: Joel P. Worrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat User List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: jasper directory missing in distribution Is it my imagination or is the jasper directory under CATALINA-HOME missing from the 4.0.1 distribution. I am still having an issue with the xerces parser, so I read the docs on using other XML parsers. The docs mention removing files from the jasper directory, but when I download the jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1.tar.gz, the jasper directory does not exist/is not included. Why? The switch to using Xerces as the standard parser eliminated the need for a separate jasper subdirectory and class loader. Jasper will use whatever parser is in common/lib or lib (which must be JAXP/1.1 compliant). Craig
Is something wrong with the Catalina 4.0.1 distribution?
To enable JDBC realm I added my jar file (weblogic4.jar) to CATALINA_HOME/common/lib. I find that the driver is not being found/read (obviously not being added to classpath, also true if added to CATALINA_HOME/lib). I forced this jar in, by adding it to the line (shown below) in catalina.bat: set CP=%CATALINA_HOME%\bin\bootstrap.jar;%JAVA_HOME%\lib\tools.jar;%CATALINA_HOME\common\lib\weblogic4.jar When I do this the JDBC realm works but, I get the following error in localhost_examples_log.2001-10-26.txt 2001-10-26 10:39:34 StandardContext[/examples]: Servlet /examples threw load() exception javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet jsp threw exception at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:871) ... ... - Root Cause - java.lang.NoSuchMethodError at org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.processJars(TldLocationsCache.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.init(TldLocationsCache.java:139) ... ... Similarly in the file localhost_log.2001-10-26.txt 2001-10-26 10:39:35 StandardContext[/manager]: Servlet /manager threw load() exception javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet jsp threw exception at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:871) ... ... - Root Cause - java.lang.NoSuchMethodError at org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.processJars(TldLocationsCache.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.init(TldLocationsCache.java:139) ... ... Looking at jasper-compiler.jar I notice that the class TldLocationsCache is in the package org.apache.jasper.compiler and not org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.processJars as it seems to be looking for from the above exceptions. Any light shone would be welcome. Cheers -raj
Is something wrong with the Catalina 4.0.1 distribution? (PS)
Looking at jasper-compiler.jar I notice that the class TldLocationsCache is in the package org.apache.jasper.compiler and not org.apache.jasper.compiler.TldLocationsCache.processJars as it seems to be looking for from the above exceptions. Sorry the above should have said: There seems to be no file TldLocationsCache.processJars (or TldLocationsCache$processJars .class) in the jasper-compiler.jar file Cheers -raj
jasper directory missing in distribution
Is it my imagination or is the jasper directory under CATALINA-HOME missing from the 4.0.1 distribution. I am still having an issue with the xerces parser, so I read the docs on using other XML parsers. The docs mention removing files from the jasper directory, but when I download the jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1.tar.gz, the jasper directory does not exist/is not included. Why? Joel P. Worrall Senior Software Engineer CommNav, Inc. (717) 796-1936 x274 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] home - (717) 796-2314 Tango the gifted Llama -
distribution
In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I need jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip but what is jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for? Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP? Is the usage of this file documented? Thanks. Craig
Re: distribution
Knoll, Craig wrote: In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I need jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip but what is jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for? Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP? No. Is the usage of this file documented? After you unarchive this file, take a look at jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3/docs/index.html. I believe this is the source for Tomcat servlet.jar. Tomcat is an application server for the methods/functions contained in the servlet.jar. Um, can anyone else come up with a better explanation? Like St. Augustine, I know what it is until you ask me to explain it. :) -- John Alex Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Engineer
RE: distribution
It's servlet api docs. Or at least that's what my cursory look said it was. --mikej -=- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Hebert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: distribution Knoll, Craig wrote: In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I need jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip but what is jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for? Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP? No. Is the usage of this file documented? After you unarchive this file, take a look at jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3/docs/index.html. I believe this is the source for Tomcat servlet.jar. Tomcat is an application server for the methods/functions contained in the servlet.jar. Um, can anyone else come up with a better explanation? Like St. Augustine, I know what it is until you ask me to explain it. :) -- John Alex Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Engineer
Re: distribution
On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Knoll, Craig wrote: In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I need jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip but what is jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for? Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP? Is the usage of this file documented? The jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3 zip contains the sources and Javadocs for the servlet API classes. You don't need it unless you want them (or unless you are building Tomcat from sources), because the 3.2.3 binary distribution includes the servlet.jar file built from these classes. Thanks. Craig Craig McClanahan
A couple of distribution questions
Greetings All! Question 1: I need to be able to distribute Tomcat in an "all-in-one" bundle. Supporting virtual machine files included. As far as I understand, Tomcat at least requires tools.jar. Is there another portion of the Java 2 SDK that is required for Tomcat to run? In other words, if I distributed the JRE1.2+ and tools.jar, would that provide an environment that Tomcat could fully work in or do I need to distribute the entire SDK? Either way, how do I go about getting permission to redistribute the necessary files? Who can I contact? Question 2: As far as I understand the Apache license agreement, if I want to say that my bundle includes the Tomcat servlet engine, I have to get permission from ASF to use the Tomcat name. I wrote the suggested email of [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, but I never got a reply. Could some kind soul please point my in the right direction to get this taken care of too? Thank you very much for your time. -Mike
