Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
No update on the bug report yet... all gone rather quiet - it would be nice to get this fixed. If you haven't voted please do so. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146 -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums with 1 APE/FLAC file + 1 cuesheet file
Thanks, I have ordered a Squeezebox touch ! Now, I have to find a mass converter from ape+cue to flac+cue who preserve tags and other metadata :). -- enestu enestu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77981 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Last few seconds of song being cut off...
Tony, you can raise the bug yourself at http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ the best way to help is to be very specific with your details so that others (notably QA at Logitech but also interested users/devs) can replicate and confirm. that means including as many variables as you can (type of file, size of library, type of USB drive, number of players, sync or not). logfiles may also help if they show something. teh bug process is in a sticky http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74846 I suspect I've experienced the same problem, but wasn't paying enough attention to confirm and its inconsistent with me. I'm having lots of other problems which may be overloading the CPU and therefore this may be another symptom but could equally be unrelated. If I capture anything I'll hunt down and add to your bug. others can add their experiences and vote. Mitch -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77809 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does the Controller also work for the Touch?
foxx;543162 Wrote: On Logitech's homepage it only lists Transporter, Classic and Receiver as compatible devices. Is this really so or does it also work for the Touch? It also works with the Radio and Boom. In fact, the Controller works with every player ever released in the product lineup (here for all: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison). The Controller communicated with the server, and the server communicates with the players, so players that were released before the Controller was conceived will work. The Controller also doesn't need to know specifically about players released after the Controller was conceived. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Phil Leigh;542889 Wrote: And it works - as you have seen! What level of FLAC compression are these flacs? - if at -8, reflac them to -5 or less... Hi Phil, You did read my post didn't you ;)? It works if I impact the streaming to all of my devices. My flac are all at -5 and I have many of them so I don't really want to re-encode them if HQ here are working on a more robust fix/solution. If a non-teckie user (like my Dad who is at the limit of web use and playback via SB) buys some 96/24 flac online and has to then re-encode them to get them to play is hardly a desirable solution is it ? SBT should play 96k flac at any level of compression. Cheers -- ncpl ncpl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
hi john thx for your detailed write-up. i'm still at the samge stage, trying to pull apart the case. yes, very slowly. looks like i really need a putty knife. yes, i want to replace the digital output rca with a bnc. i also want to see whether i could get i2s or not. see what chips are used and what i could do to get the best digital output out of it. i'm only using it as a digital transport so the dac and headphone amp section, i'm going to ignore it. if i could remove its power, that's even better! right now powering with paul hynes 5v supply for squeezebox. as i'm not using an hdd nor thumbdrive to it, paul's 1.5a supply is still sufficient. thx again! yeo -- yeo yeo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
rotho;543088 Wrote: Hi John, I have made more tests this evening and here are the successive values of the CPU usage of the perl slimserver.pl process : 1) When using the HDD : 1.1) With a 24/96 file : 32%/46%/43%/45%/52%/30%/42%/51%/47%/44%/32%/51%/36%/35%/57%/31%/37%/48%/24%/54%/38%/31%/56%/32%/37%/50%/27%/48%/38%/30%/... And so on... The server process does never go under 20% and the Touch is constantly rebuffering 1.2) With a 16/44.1 file : 29%/50%/56%/28%/2%/2%/1%/1%/1%/1%/2%/2%/1%/... 2) When using the USB stick : 2.1) With a 24/96 file : 17%/12%/5%/4%/5%/4%/4%/... And no rebuffering problem ... 2.2) With a 16/44.1 file : 23%/4%/2%/1%/2%/1%/... A little precision : for tests 1.1) and 2.1), I was always starting from scratch (Touch unplugged, USB device unplugged), and then I waited until the re-analysis of the files on the USB device was completed. Tests 1.2) and 2.2) were done immediately after tests 1.1) and 2.1), without turning off the Touch. Do you think that the problem could come from the great number of files on the HDD ? If you think it would be useful, I could make a test where I erase the contents of the HDD (I have a complete backup on its HFS formatted twin), and try the HDD with only the same couple of files as on the USB stick. What do you think ? Anyway, thank you very much for your time. Thanks a lot for testing! I guess it would make sense to check also if there is a relation to many files on the HD, although I do not see it! If we have checked it we know there is or there isn't. But I mean you have to do the effort, so it's easy for me to say... -- MCG555 MCG555's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
@Rotho: me again: What compression rate do you use for your FLACs? (sorry if you have posted it already I do not see it and did not went through all 17 pages of the thread) -- MCG555 MCG555's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does Touch support Apple Lossless or not
Phil Leigh;542858 Wrote: First you MUST Upgrade to 7.5.1 - if that doesn't work, disable Native playback in FileTypes - there are issues with Native ALAC that hopefully will be fixed soon. I just upgraded but still does not work Sorry to be thick but how do I disable native playback? -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78219 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
PLease keep us all informed Yeo how your getting on! Sounds like a good project. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Cover art problem since update to 7.5.0
I use Squeezebox Server (7.5.0-r30464) Touch (7.5.0-r8673) Receiver (Firmware: 65) Controller (7.5.0-r8673) Since my update from 7.3 to 7.5 I have following problem with cover arts at the Controller (and on my new Touch too), but not at the Server on the computer: Mix-Album, e.g. Norah-Jones Mix, with different songs from different CDs. Each MP3-song has its own integrated cover art, depending of the original CD. The songs for this Mix are stored in one folder Norah-Jones Mix and all songs tagged as the same album Norah-Jones Mix, so they appear in Squeezebox Server in one album Norah-Jones Mix. When I play this album: - at the Server on the computer I see in the playlist the different songs with their individual (different) cover - on the Touch and on the Controller I see for all songs in the playlist only the same cover of the first song ?! The now playing cover is for all songs the same (the first cover of playlist/mix album). This behaviour is new on the Controller since my update to 7.5.0. When I choose in the menue of the Controller (or Touch) for one song show cover art then the correct cover art is shown?! I made a rescan and a also deleted the database and made a new scan: No Improvement. Best regards for help or a bug-fix in a new Software. Mikel -- mik3000 mik3000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78283 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Cover art problem since update to 7.5.0
I use Squeezebox Server (7.5.0-r30464) Touch (7.5.0-r8673) Receiver (Firmware: 65) Controller (7.5.0-r8673) Since my update from 7.3 to 7.5 I have following problem with cover arts at the Controller (and on my new Touch too), but not at the Server on the computer: Mix-Album, e.g. Norah-Jones Mix, with different songs from different CDs. Each MP3-song has its own integrated cover art, depending of the original CD. The songs for this Mix are stored in one folder Norah-Jones Mix and all songs tagged as the same album Norah-Jones Mix, so they appear in Squeezebox Server in one album Norah-Jones Mix. When I play this album: - at the Server on the computer I see in the playlist the different songs with their individual (different) cover - on the Touch and on the Controller I see for all songs in the playlist only the same cover of the first song ?! The now playing cover is for all songs the same (the first cover of playlist/mix album). This behaviour is new on the Controller since my update to 7.5.0. When I choose in the menue of the Controller (or Touch) for one song show cover art then the correct cover art is shown?! I made a rescan and a also deleted the database and made a new scan: No Improvement. Best regards for help or a bug-fix in a new Software. Mikel -- mik3000 mik3000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78283 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
i managed to separate the front case from the back. i could see the 2 flexi-pcb. dang! the connectors are so tiny. i see what john is warning. either way, best way to do it is still to get the flexi pcb out of the way first. as i work on this, i'll update when i get the chance. i'm curious how is spdif generated. is there i2s in the first place? thx! yeo -- yeo yeo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
i managed to separate the front case from the back. i could see the 2 flexi-pcb. dang! the connectors are so tiny. i see what john is warning. either way, best way to do it is still to get the flexi pcb out of the way first. as i work on this, i'll update when i get the chance. i'm curious how is spdif generated. is there i2s in the first place? thx! yeo -- yeo yeo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
rotho;543088 Wrote: Hi John, I have made more tests this evening and here are the successive values of the CPU usage of the perl slimserver.pl process : 1) When using the HDD : 1.1) With a 24/96 file : 32%/46%/43%/45%/52%/30%/42%/51%/47%/44%/32%/51%/36%/35%/57%/31%/37%/48%/24%/54%/38%/31%/56%/32%/37%/50%/27%/48%/38%/30%/... And so on... The server process does never go under 20% and the Touch is constantly rebuffering 1.2) With a 16/44.1 file : 29%/50%/56%/28%/2%/2%/1%/1%/1%/1%/2%/2%/1%/... 2) When using the USB stick : 2.1) With a 24/96 file : 17%/12%/5%/4%/5%/4%/4%/... And no rebuffering problem ... 2.2) With a 16/44.1 file : 23%/4%/2%/1%/2%/1%/... A little precision : for tests 1.1) and 2.1), I was always starting from scratch (Touch unplugged, USB device unplugged), and then I waited until the re-analysis of the files on the USB device was completed. Tests 1.2) and 2.2) were done immediately after tests 1.1) and 2.1), without turning off the Touch. Do you think that the problem could come from the great number of files on the HDD ? If you think it would be useful, I could make a test where I erase the contents of the HDD (I have a complete backup on its HFS formatted twin), and try the HDD with only the same couple of files as on the USB stick. What do you think ? Anyway, thank you very much for your time. What file-system and block size are you using on the HDD? I see that the twin is HFS formatted, but you don't explicitly say the one you used is HFS. I think this is probably more relevant than the number of files. Same questions for the USB stick. Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
MCG555: I don't know the compression rate of my 24/96 flac files, because I did not generate them myself. Most of them have been generated by a friend of mine, from 24/96 Digital Audio Discs of the Classic Records and Chesky labels. I am pretty sure he did not use any fancy compression level, but I will ask him anyway. I also bought a couple of these files from the Gimell Records label (http://www.gimell.com), and I don't know their compression rate. Next week-end, I will test my HDD with only a couple of files (and hope that my backup HDD will not fail at this very moment !!). Steve: The 1.5 To HDD used with TinySC is FAT32 formatted (the Touch does not support a HFS formatted disc directly connected to it). I formatted my drive by using the Disk Utility on my Mac. -- rotho rotho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
ncpl;543232 Wrote: Hi Phil, You did read my post didn't you ;)? It works if I impact the streaming to all of my devices. My flac are all at -5 and I have many of them so I don't really want to re-encode them if HQ here are working on a more robust fix/solution. If a non-teckie user (like my Dad who is at the limit of web use and playback via SB) buys some 96/24 flac online and has to then re-encode them to get them to play is hardly a desirable solution is it ? SBT should play 96k flac at any level of compression. Cheers I did read it - it didn't mention the flac compession rate. I thought you just wanted to get it working! I don't disagree that it should work with flac @ at any rate. I don't see how streaming as PCM (in the meantime) would impact your other players as the server only serves up one stream no matter how many players there are (if synched). You should have plenty of bandwidth even for 5 different unsynched pcm streams... Of course, I'm assuming your router is wired to your server... :-) Did you try it? - did it not work? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does Touch support Apple Lossless or not
agentsmith;543241 Wrote: I just upgraded but still does not work Sorry to be thick but how do I disable native playback? (Web UI) Settings - advanced - file types: Apple Lossless - disabled, Apple Lossless - FLAC/SOX - enabled That should do it! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78219 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
Frankly I'm surprised I haven't seen more threads around the internet regarding the text size of the Touch. I don't know how most are using the Touch, but I would have expected many to use them with a stereo system sitting in an audio rack. For me, this means I sit about 12' away from the Touch which makes the screen basically useless even with the large text skin currently built in. I find this VERY unfortunate. I currently own a Duet and I frequently use my laptop to control it. While this means I don't really *need* to view the Touch's screen, it's just another aspect of the Touch that seems to have failed. I'm very close to returning the Touch and just stick with my Duet. It would be nice to know that something could be done to make the text more viewable from a distance. This would seem to not be a very difficult task. -- TJHUB TJHUB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
TJHUB;543286 Wrote: For me, this means I sit about 12' away from the Touch which makes the screen basically useless even with the large text skin currently built in. I find this VERY unfortunate. Have you actually seen the Touch? Depending on your eyes and the room lighting it might be fine at 12', although I would guess that would be true for only a minority of users. For me 12' is borderline but do-able if the room isn't too bright. There is 3rd party development work on screensavers that allow for a wider variety of font sizes, although there's always the tradeoff then of how much fits horizontally on the screen. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
I'm struggling to see it sometimes I could see the SB3 just fine and i did not use its largest font ? But no setting on Touch can match the SB3 in visibility at a distance. I could read the text on my SB3 from anywhere in my living room. Using a completely black background instead of a fancy picture helps. I judge that if SB3 is 100% the Touch is visible from 60-65% of the distance and in somewhat narrower angle both horizontally and vertically . Thats is one area where the SB3 actually was better. Otherwise I think Touch is a good device in it's own rights. Therefore I often use my controller, or squint a little and use Touchs ir remote :) When you have a wall-powered squeezeplay device you notice how often controller is in it's vegetable state spinning the wheel . So the UI is much faster on Touch vs controller. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
I am interested in modding the Touch as I did with the receiver, to bring out I2S signals with LVDS drivers and bring in slave clocks from my Dac. This requires mounting LVDS driver and receivers in the vicinity of the Touch DAC or processor. In the receiver I was also able to mount a DVI connector on the box. It seems like the room for this may not exist inside the Touch. (The receiver is WONDERFULLY spacious) John, you have the most experience with the insides of the Touch. Any room for such mods? If not, I will likely want to pull out the receiver circuit board to mount elsewhere (sacrificing the controller - I am very happy with SlimControl on my Windows phone and don't really use the Touch controller). Actually, all I want is an upgraded receiver for 88.2K and 96K files... Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Jack Jones -- JIJ3 JIJ3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36534 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does the Controller also work for the Touch?
Thanks for that. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cover art problem since update to 7.5.0
I have also experienced what you are describing. So I can confirm it. But I'm not sure it is a bug. I would consider it deliberate behaviour. Since you are playing an album, but there are multiple covers to choose from, the device chooses the cover art of the first track and considers this to be the cover belonging to this album. There is a certain logic to it. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78283 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using touch with RipNas
treo;542852 Wrote: Yes it comes preconfigured with SB7.* but I know see there is something called the Vortexbox appliance which will do the same thing for less than half the price of the RipNas (and apparently connect via network cable?) although it is not as pretty. Essentially I want something I can rip straight into that will connect directly to the Touch. Any other suggestions? You need to have your auto-ripper NAAS connected to your network so it can get cover art and ID3 tag information for your ripped music. The Touch is usually connected to your network as well. So if you had a VortexBox as soon as you connected it to your network it would be connected to your Touch. Here's how the VortexBox works. 1. Connect VortexBox to your router 2. Put a CD in the drive. It will be ripped in about 4 minutes. 3. Select vortexbox as the server for your touch and play. (The vortexbox will appear on the server list) If you need to use your Touch without a network you would need to copy the music to a USB drive. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Music being cut off
Hi, before I had my Touch I had a Receiver, hard-wired over a power-line network and it always seemed to be fine connected to a local Squeezebox Server (7.5.0 - r30464 ). I have now replaced the SBR with a Touch (7.5.0-r8673) and when I'm playing a playlist (I usually use random song mix) the player will suddenly stop playing although the elapsed time will continue to increment forever. Clicking 'Next' will nudge it onto the next song and things will be OK until the next time it fails. I have attached a Touch log - the music stopped playing twice in this log. Can any one decipher this, I can't really spot what might be the problem. There are no entries in the SBS log over this time. +---+ |Filename: messages.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9836| +---+ -- elziko elziko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78292 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using touch with RipNas
Thanks, that's very useful to know. I am thinking that the vortexbox appliance coupled with the SB Touch and some (as yet unspecified) active speakers is the simplest/cheapest setup for a non-techie. The way you describe it the VB Appliance could sit hidden away next to the router and the SB touch would connect to it wirelessly. Are there issues of responsiveness if one does that? -- treo treo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37972 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music being cut off
Watch the servers cpu usage during this. How large are this playlist ? And on random mix how is the setting for how many songs to show ? Try the default 10/10 or similar. Try not to press shuffle with a large playlist. I would recommend to use erlands plugins for playlists if you have a Touch. Then you can random from your previously saved large playlists without problems ( keeping the settings on how many to show at 10-20 something). Read my bug here to see if it corresponds in some way http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16089 -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78292 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
There IS I2S inside. The S/PDIF and I2S come directly out of the processor. They both go through reclocker flops. I don't remember if all the signals on the I2S are reclocked or just one of the clock signals. There is a quarter inch or so between the main board and the back case so thin boards can be added. As long as the board has SMD chips and caps (no electrolytics that stick up from the board) you should be able to add boards. I would just mount them with insulating double stick tape to the existing board. Jack, I'm planing on doing exactly the same thing, a small board with LVDS interfaces to feed the clocks and take the I2S out. It worked fine on the SB3. For the SB3 I just ran a pigtail cable (the rolled up twisted pair IDC cable) through one of the holes after I took out the connector. Something similar could be done with the Touch. The connectors for the FPCs have a latch which is on the front of the connector. Look at the part of the connector where the FPC enters, that part is actually on a hinge. You need to take a small flat blade screw driver and pry up that front piece, it will rotate up out of the way. Once its up its obvious. You can then just pull the cable out. This is the easy part. The hard part is putting it back together. You have to feed the cable back in, properly lining it up, push it all the way in, and then rotate the latch back down. While holding both pieces of the assembly slightly apart and trying to squeeze your fingers down in the very narrow space between sections. Small hands help here! I don't know how they assemble this in the factory! John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does the Controller also work for the Touch?
You can even do weird things like have the contoller control the player in the Touch while the screen on the Touch is controlling another player! The Controller even has a player builtin (which drives the headphone jack), at one point just to see if it would work I had the Controller controlling the Touch player and the Touch screen controlling the Controller player! It worked. Logically you can think of the Touch as having three pieces, a controller, a player, and a server. In normal use these are connected together but they don't HAVE to be. Any or all of these can be disconnected from each other and used across the network with other squeeze devices in pretty much any configuration you want. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
aubuti;543291 Wrote: Have you actually seen the Touch? Depending on your eyes and the room lighting it might be fine at 12', although I would guess that would be true for only a minority of users. For me 12' is borderline but do-able if the room isn't too bright. There is 3rd party development work on screensavers that allow for a wider variety of font sizes, although there's always the tradeoff then of how much fits horizontally on the screen. I have a Touch right now, so yes I've actually seen it. I can read the track playing, but the artist and album info is on the edge of impossible to read. Maybe my viewing distance is actually more than 12', I'll measure tonight. As far as the larger fonts for the small screen, I used to own a Roku M2000 that I used with the largest, single-line font and it worked well with the scrolling feature. I'm not saying the font needs to be twice and big as the current large font, it just needs to be bigger; maybe 2-line with scrolling? -- TJHUB TJHUB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using touch with RipNas
treo;543324 Wrote: Thanks, that's very useful to know. I am thinking that the vortexbox appliance coupled with the SB Touch and some (as yet unspecified) active speakers is the simplest/cheapest setup for a non-techie. The way you describe it the VB Appliance could sit hidden away next to the router and the SB touch would connect to it wirelessly. Are there issues of responsiveness if one does that? That's excavate how VortexBox is designed to work. As long as your wireless network is solid it should work perfectly. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover artÂ… All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch
iPhone;543019 Wrote: Also, I don't think full time Internet access is absolutely necessary foe everything you are looking to do. I will see what I can figure out what can and can't be done but this would require running a local SBS server in my opinion. Others on the Forum have used this stuff more then I have. Basically, I did it once to verify it could be done during the Beta testing. I use my Touch in stand alone mainly to play music. Thanks a lot! Well - it seems that using Touch only for playing music in standalone mode is somehow problematic.. Out of the blue it request network connection with such a message: We can't detect a wired connection. Please check your ethernet cable, and make sure your network is running and available. this would be ok. but afterward i cant detach usb disc with a message: WARNING: The device failed to eject properly. This may be due to one or more programs on the system accessing it. than whatever i do Touch asks for wired connection... - stacked.., especially with danger of destroying HDD with all music... Does anyone had such problem? Any solution (except power unplugging, as online connection is impossible!?) -- Zibi Zibi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78232 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch in bridge mode for use with a Controller and no access point ?
Hello, sorry, new to the Squeezebox world. I'm considering to buy a Touch and a Controller. Some doubts: - May I use the Controller to pilot the Touch with no access point involved in a Duet-like fashion ? - Can I attach a NAS directly to the Touch to access the files in it ? Thanks -- gafc gafc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78296 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
I believe you are misinterpreting the cutting edge of the Touch. One of it's main advantages over other media players is that you can configure and control it without having to have a TV set running or to have a PC in the direct vicinity of your listening position. To control it from the sofa the IR remote is only a render of last resort. Normaly you use the controller or an iPhone, iPod or other PDA. This works bi-directionaly, giving you all the information you are expecting to see from your sitting position. Using it without any of the wifi remotes means you are operating it similar to a CD player. You are supposed to see the information when you are standing in front of it, not across the room. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
(I'm starting way too many replies about the Touch like this.) During the beta testing it was suggested that the large font size was a step backward from the large font size used on the SB, SB2, SB3, Transporter and Boom. And it was suggested that a similar sized font be introduced in a single line, scrolling Now Playing screen. Like many others, these suggestions were ignored by the developers and designers without comment. Even if it was recognized now that it would be good to fix the problem, it probably could not be, as the graphic artists and ui designers responsible for these shortcomings have long ago left the project. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch
Well, you should at least wire it up on first installation in order to install the latest firmware. Only this will properly support your USB stand-alone mode. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78232 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch
Zibi;543359 Wrote: Thanks a lot! Well - it seems that using Touch only for playing music in standalone mode is somehow problematic.. Out of the blue it request network connection with such a message: We can't detect a wired connection. Please check your ethernet cable, and make sure your network is running and available. this would be ok. but afterward i cant detach usb disc with a message: WARNING: The device failed to eject properly. This may be due to one or more programs on the system accessing it. than whatever i do Touch asks for wired connection... - stacked.., especially with danger of destroying HDD with all music... Does anyone had such problem? Any solution (except power unplugging, as online connection is impossible!?) Try a Left Swipe (IE Go Back) when the Touch asks for a Network Connection. The way I have handled this is to put an old D-Link WiFi Router in service (or buy a cheap used WiFi router). The Touch sees the WiFi Network and doesn't keep asking for a connection. I do this on the weekends at our cabin which doesn't have Internet. This also lets other Squeezebox players use the Touch as a music source without being connected to the Internet or Ethernet wired. I use a Boom and an SB Radio on the weekends with just an old D-Link Router and the Touch running TinySC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78232 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does the Controller also work for the Touch?
Controller and iPeng both work fine with the Touch, as well as another Touch as just a controller for another Touch or other Squeezebox products. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch
Touch is warning you to select Eject USB button before removing the USB. It is trying to save you possible damage to your files. Your options are to eject it correctly or put up with the warning. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78232 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
I'm possibly being dense here, but is the Add to favourites functionality missing from the Touch? Yesterday, I was playing a radio station that I had found via the search facility. On my SB3 I would be able to navigate right and have the option of adding it as a favourite. I couldn't find an equivalent on the Touch. -- Zoltan Zoltan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
I'm possibly being dense here, but is the Add to favourites functionality missing from the Touch? Yesterday, I was playing a radio station that I had found via the search facility. On my SB3 I would be able to navigate right and have the option of adding it as a favourite. I couldn't find an equivalent on the Touch. -- Zoltan Zoltan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch in bridge mode for use with a Controller and no access point ?
gafc;543362 Wrote: Hello, sorry, new to the Squeezebox world. I'm considering to buy a Touch and a Controller. Some doubts: - May I use the Controller to pilot the Touch with no access point involved in a Duet-like fashion ? - Can I attach a NAS directly to the Touch to access the files in it ? Thanks If all three (NAS, Touch, Controller) are connected to a router... - yes, Controller can pilot Touch - no, NAS cannot connect directly to Touch, you would need NAS running full SBS through the router -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78296 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Protecting Your Touch Screen
I've read comments about how easily the Touch screen can be scratched, marred, etc., so I did some investigating about what products might to available to provide some protection. I found a company called ZAGG which makes an invisibleSHIELD for the Duet controller, and asked them if they plan to make a comparable product for the Touch. This is the response I got: Hello Rob, Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Betty and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you. At the moment we do not have an invisibleSHIELD design for that device, but we might be interested in creating one! You can submit a request for a new invisibleSHIELD design at the following link: http://www.zagg.com/hotgadgets/index.php This request will be submitted to our Hot Gadget Team to research if the Logitech Squeezebox Touch is a device we are looking for. You should receive a response from our Hot Gadget Team about your request within 24 hours. I hope this helps! Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or comments. All the best, Betty If enough of us express an interest in such a product, we might just make it happen. Check out the Duet Controller invisibleSHIELD here: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/logitech-squeezebox-duet-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php. If you like what you see, I encourage you to follow Betty's suggestion and put in a request. -- iwannatouch iwannatouch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78301 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
I don't have a Touch, but: is this not available in the context menu? - Press 'Now playing x of y' on the Now Playing screen, or - Hold on list-items. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
toby10;543405 Wrote: I'm going to take a wild guess and presume the station you are playing and want to save as a Favorite is from either the Internet Radio or RadioTime menus? I went to Internet Radio and then found it via Search. -- Zoltan Zoltan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
Zoltan;543409 Wrote: I went to Internet Radio and then found it via Search. Yup, that's a RadioTime feed then. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
bhaagensen;543406 Wrote: I don't have a Touch, but: is this not available in the context menu? - Press 'Now playing x of y' on the Now Playing screen, or - Hold on list-items. If it's a RadioTime feed then no SB can currently add it to Favorites from the Now Playing screen. Yes, you can add to Favorites from the menu list-items. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
Thanks John, I wonder if you have decided whether to use your existing clocks and add a clock doubler to output to the Touch or to use double frequency clocks? I am tempted to use a clock doubler, which would be jittery, but since I am reclocking the final output to the DAC anyway with the receiver-frequency clocks, it shouldn't matter in the end. All the clock doubler circuits I know require a perfect square wave (50% duty cycle) input. My Tent clocks are not specified for duty cycle, but they look good on the scope. I wonder how sensitive you think the Touch processor is to clock jitter, and whether a doubler circuit would be good enough? Thanks for your help. Jack -- JIJ3 JIJ3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36534 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiencing Touch for a couple of days
I've had a little while with the Touch as well and it's been generally positive. Here are my notes; 1) There's an increase in sound quality on all fronts; as a drive in to my DAC and from the analogue outs. 2) The touchscreen functionality and menu system works well. 3) It feels better made than the Duet. 4) Using a USB drive, it all slows down enormously. I'm using a 0.75 tb Western Digital My Passport drive with a D Link hub (for power). My impression is that it slows down as the size of the database gets larger. I'm expecting this to improve in later iterations of the firmware. 5) Installation was very quick. Barely ten minutes and it was working with the database on the PC. 6) I've had no networking problems (using Belkin N+ router). Generally very good. The only thing that really needs work is the speed of Tiny SBS with an hard disc. I wonder if anyone has tried with other types of hard drive? Is a standard 3.5 faster? -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78211 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
foxx;543365 Wrote: I believe you are misinterpreting the cutting edge of the Touch. One of it's main advantages over other media players is that you can configure and control it without having to have a TV set running or to have a PC in the direct vicinity of your listening position. To control it from the sofa the IR remote is only a render of last resort. Normaly you use the controller or an iPhone, iPod or other PDA. This works bi-directionaly, giving you all the information you are expecting to see from your sitting position. Using it without any of the wifi remotes means you are operating it similar to a CD player. You are supposed to see the information when you are standing in front of it, not across the room. Seriously? You should re-read my posts... JJZolx;543373 Wrote: (I'm starting way too many replies about the Touch like this.) During the beta testing it was suggested that the large font size was a step backward from the large font size used on the SB, SB2, SB3, Transporter and Boom. And it was suggested that a similar sized font be introduced in a single line, scrolling Now Playing screen. Like many others, these suggestions were ignored by the developers and designers without comment. Even if it was recognized now that it would be good to fix the problem, it probably could not be, as the graphic artists and ui designers responsible for these shortcomings have long ago left the project. Thank you for this information. I can understand them ignoring the suggestion, I just could not understand no one else wanting it. Too bad really. Since I don't seem to like the sound of the digital out of the Touch vs. my Duet, I'm sending it back. The Touch does nothing for me over the Duet and the only real reason I tried it was because so many stated that the digital output was very good. -- TJHUB TJHUB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music being cut off
Looking at the log file it looks like you have a major network connectivity issue. Many times the Touch looses cits connection to your server, it tries a couple times to reconnect, gives up and tries to connect to mysqueezebox.com, cant connect there either, gives up and tries your server again, it connects! Starts playing a song, looses connection, goes through the process over again. A few times is got messages from other player in the house that they also lost connection. So its not just the Touch. Its a little tough to figure out whether its the server or the network. I'm leaning towards the network since it couldn't connect to mysqueezebox.com either. If there was no problem with the network I would expect it to have made connection to mysqueezebox.com. (unless you don't have an internet connection up at that time) John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78292 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Protecting Your Touch Screen
That's quite true, actually. I did the same thing with Zagg for a POS phone from Virgin Mobile. Enough people responded that they actually did make a screen protector for the phone I am speaking of. How many people that need to respond is the question I guess. They do make an excellent product. Trouble is, they are rather difficult to apply if you are a member of the I can never apply screen protectors without air bubbles crowd. -- starfury starfury's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37465 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78301 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Add to favourites?
Zoltan;543384 Wrote: I'm possibly being dense here, but is the Add to favourites functionality missing from the Touch? Yesterday, I was playing a radio station that I had found via the search facility. On my SB3 I would be able to navigate right and have the option of adding it as a favourite. I couldn't find an equivalent on the Touch. I was able to save a radio station to favorites by first adding to the end of the current playlist, then in playlist I was able to save to favorites. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
TJHUB;543347 Wrote: I'm not saying the font needs to be twice and big as the current large font, it just needs to be bigger; maybe 2-line with scrolling? Are you talking about menus or the Now Playing screen or both ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] how to open up the squeezebox touch?
yeo;542971 Wrote: 2. asian language characters doesn't display correctly (chinese, japanese, thai...). no problem with sb3. Try this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77342highlight=asian+touch. Haven't tested it myself. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
I have near 20/20 eye sight so I can assure you that 12' away is not readable for most people. Logi-techs screwed up big time in the usability department. The cleverest bit of the original Squeezebox is the huge green one liner despite the small screen. It made the box a joy to use. By the way if you look at the nice Touch screen it is very similar size to a PDA. I am quite sure that Logitech is using its purchasing power and leverage parts from other PDA or one of their LCD remotes to make the $299 pricing. And from the shape of the screen I think it will be a challenge to display large letters like that of the SB2 and SB3. I am also surprised that no one else raised that issue. And to imply that the product is designed to be used with an iPhone or the Controller is bull. That was never stated in the product requirement. And it would preclude the requirement of many of the users who would expect the remote control is to work remote from the coach side of the living room. I have an iPhone with iPeng, and even I use the remote control 99% of the time. If they did a focus group they asked the wrong groups. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
Oh and by the way, despite the extended launch date the product is still not ready for prime time. The first Touch I bought was certified bricked refusing to go into initial set up. It think it must have been one of those early samples waiting in the warehouse. The user interface is a nightmare compared to the Transporter/Squeezebox 2/3 The Linux server code refuses to play 99% of my Apple Lossless music. The Touch is displaying double byte characters as little blocks Other than that, the box itself is nice and solid, very cute looking. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music being cut off
I had similar problem with the Touch just stopped playing a couple of times, was running Macbook Pro server as I recall. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78292 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
agentsmith;543472 Wrote: And from the shape of the screen I think it will be a challenge to display large letters like that of the SB2 and SB3. I am also surprised that no one else raised that issue. It was raised, many beta testers commented this a lot during their first test weeks. I has gotten a lot better since then, mainly due to changed font sizes and the large font skin with three text lines. I personally think it can be improved even more by experimenting with adjusting colors and font sizes. It feels like Logitech mostly has focused on the small font touch skin so far and not so much on the large font skin used when controlling it with IR. agentsmith;543472 Wrote: many of the users who would expect the remote control is to work remote from the coach side of the living room. I have no problem controlling it comfortably from the coach, of course I'm more like 10' away so that might make the difference. For people sitting 20' away I can imagine that it's very problematic and for these I don't think there is a good solution. The limited display with would make large fonts unusable, possibly a two line display with a little larger fonts or a more compressed font style (similar to Boom) might be a possibility. Do you have more problems with some specific screen / menu or is there nothing that works from the couch ? Are there any competing devices besides the old Squeezebox products that does this better ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
